[02:04] xserver-xorg-video-all : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau but it is not installed - I installed nvidia drivers, how can I remove xserver-xorg-video-all ? [02:05] err can I [02:05] ? [02:08] dougl: no X experts here, try asking in #kubuntu, #ubuntu or #ubuntu-x [02:18] Riddell, thanks :) [03:57] ::runtime-bugs:: [1298951] kwalletd crashed with SIGABRT in __GI_raise() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1298951 (by Gustavo Boksar) === jackson is now known as Guest50945 [04:58] btw that issue with the device manager is still in KDE 4.12.97 [05:04] is there some reason we are not using KDE 4.13 and are using betas of it? [05:05] i was under the assumption KDE 4.12.X were betas of of KDE 4.13 [05:10] Kalidarn: isnt 4.13 planned for release next week? [05:10] http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.13_Release_Schedule [05:11] i was sure it was already released [05:11] was sure i was using it in 3.10 with the backports kubuntu ppa [05:11] i might have been imagining things [05:12] if you have a phone or tablet [05:12] when you plug it in do you see blank entries in the device manager [05:12] or in dolphin [05:12] i seem to with my nexus 5/nexus 7 [05:12] they all seem to point to camera: [05:14] i imagine this bug occurs with any type of phone or tablet [05:17] Kalidarn: I think we talked about this the other day, no? [05:17] did you try changing the desktop theme? [05:19] yes we did [05:19] and it's not the desktop theme (using oxygen at the moment) [05:19] but same issue with air [05:19] Kalidarn: I dont know then - it works here on both 14.04 and 13.10 w/backports [05:19] the devices also appear blank in dolphin [05:20] Kalidarn: have you checked that you have it in the correct mode on the tablet/phone? [05:20] ie. the storage one, not the camera one? [05:21] all i see in dmesg is [05:21] [ 4884.740116] usb 1-4: new high-speed USB device number 13 using ehci-pci [05:21] [ 4884.873358] usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=18d1, idProduct=4ee2 [05:21] [ 4884.873363] usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [05:21] [ 4884.873366] usb 1-4: Product: Nexus 5 [05:21] [ 4884.873368] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: LGE [05:21] [ 4884.873371] usb 1-4: SerialNumber: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [05:21] oops :P [05:22] all 3 seem to open to camera: 3 [05:22] camera: [05:24] http://i.imgur.com/x1rTKFv.png [05:24] looks really ugly and i'd like to try to find out what is causing it so it can be fixed for final release [05:24] never happened with 3.10 [05:25] unfortunately i don't know what's causing it [05:26] Kalidarn: so did you check the device setting, as I mentioned? [05:26] which one? [05:26] i might have missed that [05:26] mtp/camera [05:26] interesting: my htc one phone has two devices reported: camera, and then the phone [05:27] jussi: how do i check it? [05:27] but no blanks [05:27] they both seem to open up to the same place [05:28] the named one opens up to mtp: > Nexus 5 [05:28] the un named ones open up to Camera: [05:29] and inside camera: there's a directory called "Google Inc (for LG Electronics/Samsung) Nexus 4/5/6/10 (MTP+ADB) [05:29] with a store_000100001 directory in it [05:29] Kalidarn: when you connect the device, it should have a usb icon on the device pulldown. touch it, then choose mtp [05:29] that seems to contain two text files about.txt and summary.txt [05:30] jussi: i'm unsure what you mean [05:31] Kalidarn: plug in the usb. what appears in top corner of the nexus 5 screen [05:31] oh [05:31] yep [05:31] hmm [05:31] one of the hidden things went away when i disabled usb debugging ;) [05:31] pull down, click, make sure ownly mtp is selected [05:32] ah yes MTP is only checked [05:32] PTP is not [05:32] after disabling usb debugging though it now only shows one blank entry [05:33] the named one "Nexus 5" shows mtp: > Nexus 5 in dolphin [05:33] and then a drive called "Internal Storage" [05:33] that directs to /sdcard/ [05:34] the blank looking one (which there's only 1 of now) shows camera: and shows the "Google Inc (for LG Electronics/Samsung) Nexus 4/5/6/10 (MTP+ADB)" directory [05:35] Kalidarn: I suspect its a developer mode somethign [05:36] possibly. [05:36] i disabled developer mode completely and it still shows a blank one [05:37] * jussi goes back to work [05:45] apachelogger: http://sessellift.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/choose-your-own-experience-this-time-its-for-real/ - see, this is what I was talking about in Munich :D [05:46] mind, was funny that they first put it as april fools joke, then made a real one [06:39] Good morning. [06:57] jussi: that'd be in voilation of our own UX practises [06:57] namely the "dont-get-in-the-way-of-the-user" one [06:57] :( [08:01] shadeslayer: it would appear to me that we need an explicit dep from whatever contains startkde to qdbus-qt4 | qdbus-qt5 [08:02] or not [08:02] it's still fishy [08:02] who here was using kmail on 13.10 ? [08:02] for some reason I had qt5-default but not qdbus-qt5 installed === vinay is now known as Guest54618 [08:56] apachelogger: nothing depends on qdbus-qt5 [08:57] yeah [08:57] wouldn't have helped anyway if it's either or [08:57] you still can have the default config installed for qt5 but no qdbus-qt5 [08:58] so it will qtchoose 5 but there is no binary there and then boom [09:03] o.O http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1MzA linus getting pissed eh? [09:04] high quality article, complete with typo and everything [09:06] dont be always so negativ apachelogger :D [09:06] but it is the truth [09:07] it is but the copy and paste parts are funny [09:08] *shrug* [09:08] always with the drama. [09:09] hi [09:09] morning [09:09] forgot those two ^^ :P [09:11] :D [09:37] and mu0on still buggy, it again doesn't show a single package when filtering in the "All" part, and the xapian is up-to-date... [09:37] also, baloo-something is crashing repeatedly and now kde pim doesn't start anymore [09:38] and it doesn't update my notes, which luckily I completely backed up before re-trying Kontact... [09:38] but right now I can't access them because of kontact... [09:38] which sucks big time, I rely on these notes [09:39] Mamarok: backtrace? [09:39] for baloo [09:40] vHanda: sent by apport to launchpad, repeatedly the bug there already exists with multiple dupes [09:40] could I have a link? It's probably been fixed, but just to be sure. [09:40] * apachelogger suspects that baloo is not watched by kubuntu-bugs [09:40] * apachelogger suspects that if that is the case someone will get pissed off [09:41] oh well, I have to digg that up apparently, can't you look in launchpad? Same effort [09:41] nevermind. [09:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/baloo [09:42] cool. Thanks. Fixed. [09:44] oh [09:44] there's more [09:44] marked private [09:44] most pointless feature in the world [09:44] why are thioes marked private? That is stupid [09:44] can't that be turned off by default for all our bugs [09:45] ? [09:45] sudo baloo_file_extractor crashed with SIGSEGV in getint2() [09:45] gee [09:45] yep, that bug [09:45] vHanda: bug 1301742 [09:45] bug 1301742 in baloo (Ubuntu) "baloo_file_extractor crashed with SIGSEGV in size()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301742 [09:45] Mamarok: apport randomly marks bugs private or maybe it's the reporters [09:45] no clue [09:45] also I am happy to mention that I had my HD filled up again with baloo, such a change from nepomuk [09:46] very funny if you can't work anymore because your disk is full... [09:46] vHanda: bug 1300413 [09:46] bug 1300413 in baloo (Ubuntu) "baloo_file crashed with SIGSEGV in getint2()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300413 [09:46] vHanda: bug 1298873 [09:46] bug 1298873 in baloo (Ubuntu) "baloo_file crashed with SIGABRT in __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298873 [09:46] that's all [09:46] and sorry if I didn't report this before, I only decided yesterday to retry KDE PIM, based on good comments everywhere... [09:47] apparently still not my cup of tea... [09:53] * Mamarok just added a comment to bug 1301192 [09:53] bug 1301192 in amarok (Ubuntu) "transition from gst0.10 to gst1.0 phonon backend incomplete" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301192 [09:54] Riddell: ^ upstream is starting to get unhappy [09:55] starting is an euphemisms, to be honest, we already have a list of reports for that bug upstream [09:55] euphemism* [09:56] as long as we do unprepared library transitions a month before release the world is in order [09:58] :) [09:58] well, at least we have something we can point people at [10:07] Mamarok: disk is full because of Baloo? Because of these crash reports? [10:45] vHanda: I am still trying to find out what filled up the disk exactly, but it all started with me starting KDE PIM [10:46] let me know if it turns out to be Baloo. I've put in a lot of effort to make sure it is not like Nepomuk. [10:47] well, it has position.DB file of 0,7 GB, a bit big, isn't that? [10:48] also, where can I choose what to index? [10:49] nvm, found it [11:07] 'Morning all [11:35] vHanda: I found the culprit, it was a ~./.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/ folder with a total of 78 GB! [11:35] shoudln't there be no more nepomuk? [11:39] Mamarok, just did an upgrade and saw some nepomuk lib files being upgraded, guess baloo is still using them. [11:40] well, just starting Kontact again after several months of no use, I ended up with over 70 GB filling up my hard disk in no time [11:41] with email data? [11:41] I didn't even check if there was any data, I deleted the complete folder [11:42] so I could at least reuse my computer [11:43] and apparently that also fixed the muon isuse, now the search works again, so it was a space problem [11:43] Mamarok, are you using akonadi and kmail as well ? [11:44] well, that is how everything started, I wanted to try kontact again, and ended up with having a full HD [11:44] kmail gets much faster when you switch the akonadi backend to postgres [11:46] * BluesKaj avoids akonadi and kmail [11:50] jussi: which release are you on? [11:50] kdeuser56: 13.10 with ppa [11:50] BluesKaj: no reason to do so [11:50] jussi: does it work out of the box? [11:50] kdeuser56: does what work out of the box? [11:51] jussi: the postgres akonadi backend [11:51] kdeuser56: it appears to... [11:51] I clicked switch, then restart and kmail works, only faster [11:51] jussi: are you using internal postgres server? [11:52] kdeuser56: yes [11:52] jussi: and you simply switched the backend ... what happened to the data? [12:10] Riddell: good morning, any tasks for me today? [12:14] sgclark: well you could look at what's up with solid here http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.98.0_trusty.html [12:14] ::workspace-bugs:: [1299920] defaulting to qt5 does not work siunce QT_SELECT=qt4 is in the environment by default. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1299920 (by Søren Holm) [12:14] sgclark: but it's very weird and I really have no idea [12:14] Riddell: I will take a look [12:15] "The following files are already published in Kubuntu Experimental: [12:15] qtdeclarative5-kf5solid-5.0_4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa5_amd64.deb" [12:15] sgclark: it compiles fine but then fails to upload [12:15] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/171639075/upload_5874921_log.txt [12:15] is something nutty happening like it making that binary twice? [12:18] BluesKaj: there is a nepomukbaloomigrator which runs once. It migrates all the tags, ratings and config files [12:18] you can kill it and disable it if you don't care about the migration [12:18] Riddell: indeed weird [12:18] it's the only reason you need the nepomuk-core package [12:21] vHanda: did you have a look into https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332686 ? [12:22] KDE bug 332686 in Files "baloo_file_extractor crashed with SIGSEGV in getint2()" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [12:23] kdeuser56: yes, but I cannot say if it has been fixed since I cannot reproduce it. [12:23] I've pushed a number of changes, which should fix it. [12:23] vHanda, i don't have baloo enabled, don't need it. [12:23] Riddell: build log only shows one created, this is very odd [12:23] ok === slacker_1l is now known as slacker_nl [12:27] vHanda: great!, thanks, I will see if it happens again [12:28] vHanda: which release should the fixes be in? [12:31] Riddell: changes only lists one... the only thing I can think to do is change ppa5 to ppa4, you went from ppa3 to ppa5 [12:59] sgclark: I got this reject e-mail [12:59] "qtdeclarative5-kf5solid-5.0_4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa5_i386.deb: Version older than that in the archive. [12:59] +4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa5 <= 4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa6 " [12:59] and for the ~ppa3 upload I got a reject e-mail saying ~ppa4 was in the archive [12:59] I think launchpad is going nuts [13:00] wgrant_: ^ [13:01] oh, it's coming from kdeclarative [13:01] wgrant_: it may be me who's going mad not launchpad [13:01] that's what happens if you stay up until 04:30 [13:02] Riddell: figure it out? [13:02] sgclark: I think I messed up kdeclarative which also made the solid package [13:03] qtdeclarative5-kf5solid-5.0 [13:03] Riddell: ahhh [13:03] should be qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative-5.0 [13:03] sgclark: could you check and fix that?