[01:24] <goodtime> anybody here use smuxi as a IRC client here?
[02:19] <dougl> xserver-xorg-video-all : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau but it is not installed - I installed nvidia drivers, can I remove xserver-xorg-video-all ?
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[06:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[06:41] <JordanJ2> Morning
[06:46] <lordievader> Hey JordanJ2, how are you?
[06:50] <JordanJ2> Good, you?
[06:50] <lordievader> JordanJ2: Doing pretty good, trying to get git working on Windows.
[06:53] <JordanJ2> Ah
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[06:57]  * lordievader has succeeded
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[10:52] <pnunn> Any tricks to get the new kde installed? I've enabled ppa experimental, but doesn't seem to be there.
[10:54] <lordievader> pnunn: KDE 4.13beta is in Trusty.
[10:54] <lordievader> !info libkdecore5 trusty
[10:54] <ubottu> libkdecore5 (source: kde4libs): KDE Platform Core Library. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.12.97-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 881 kB, installed size 3274 kB
[10:54] <lordievader> !info libkdecore5 saucy
[10:54] <ubottu> libkdecore5 (source: kde4libs): KDE Platform Core Library. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.11.5-0ubuntu0.1 (saucy), package size 881 kB, installed size 3273 kB
[11:00] <pnunn> Ok, is that the kde next alpha that is being discussed?
[11:01] <lordievader> pnunn: It is either the beta or the rc. Anyhow if you want it, I'd wait till the release of Trusty (the 17th) and simply upgrade.
[11:02] <pnunn> Sounds fair lordievader, just got a vm set up to test trusty so thought if there was another kde out there I'd give that a spin too.. thanks.
[11:03] <lordievader> No problem ;)
[11:03] <pnunn> didn't know you could get package info from the bot on here, that's cool.
[11:07] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
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[13:38] <rogmo> where I can change keyboard layout in kubuntu 13.10, I have checked in system settings in keyboard tab , there I can change keyboard model but didnt found there how to change keyboard layout, I like to change it to finnish
[13:52] <zhick> rogmo: in the layout-tab you can add a different layout
[14:01] <rogmo> zhick: thanks
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[17:52] <milovan> Hello, anyone tried to use KSystemLog to show Apache AccesLog? It does work, but date is not read from log, instead its set for every line on 1AM
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[19:52] <Trollkar1en> !14.04
[19:52] <ubottu> Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+1
[19:52] <Trollkar1en> Hi all 14.04 kubuntu stuff also in #ubuntu+1 ?
[19:55] <Trollkar1en> I have an issue that works in unity(or whats its called now adays) but not i kubuntu on 14.04
[19:56] <Trollkar1en> When i have signal loss from HDMI(turn on off reciever) the screen never wakes until i restart lightdm
[19:57] <lordievader> Trollkar1en: Yes, Kubuntu Trusty support is also in #ubuntu+1
[19:57] <Trollkar1en> oki, thx
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[21:04] <rcw2> how to i change the time format to 12 hr from 24 hr
[21:16] <bprompt> rcw2:      system settings > locale > date & time
[21:18] <rcw2> bprompt, nice, i didnt see how to get there by right clicking the clock, if even possible
[22:10] <Addle> Wow, from bad to worse with this installation. Had to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 Beta 2 because the windows were black (mesa broke compositing with this intel video card, I think). The plasma-nm applet was flaky and I had to edit the wireless connection directly to get the config for it, and it would only appear slowly after a try or two.
[22:11] <Addle> Now, however, the entire plasma-nm doesn't work and systemd-logind is restarting too fast (killed by ABRT).
[22:12] <Addle> I can't reboot the system from lightdm or the menu (shutdown -r now works fine).
[22:12] <Addle> Well, that'll teach me to install a Beta on my friend's computer. ;)
[22:12] <Addle> Any hints about debugging the systemd-logind issue and the network?
[22:15] <Addle> FYI, the black window contents problem can be worked around by disabling compositing, in case anyone else hits it.
[22:39] <Addle> qdbus does not work. That explains a few things.
[22:45] <Addle> Well, qdbus is running now, but that fixed nothing. Hrm.
[22:48] <bprompt> lol
[22:48] <bprompt> a full install rather than an upgrade is most often better
[22:49] <Addle> bprompt: Yeah, they never work for me. lol
[22:50] <Addle> bprompt: Seeing if I can just switch off compositing on the install DVD and get that to work.
[22:51] <Addle> bprompt: I hadn't debugged it, and so I never tried just Shift+Alt+F12. Could work.
[22:51] <bprompt> ahemm    tis only 17more days for the full 14.04 release you know
[22:52] <Addle> Well, that worked. :)
[22:53] <Addle> Yeah, but I don't want to have to reinstall/upgrade yet again. I already have two other systems I need to upgrade when it's released.
[22:53] <Addle> Hopefully the Mesa/intel thing is fixed by then (there's a bug report).
[23:45] <Addle> Well, fresh reinstall, wireless wasn't working. Update, and now none of the plasma-nm stuff works. Yeah, perhaps installing 14.04 Beta 2 on this system is premature. Oh well, it's "beta" for a reason. I'll pop on 13.10 and deal with the later upgrade.