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| * smb waits for some theatrical moves from northerly directions | 07:32 | |
| * apw yawns very sensibly | 07:42 | |
| zequence | infinity: Is the precise 3.2 kernel no longer being SRUd? | 08:57 |
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| infinity | zequence: It is, it just didn't have any updates last cycle. It has some this time. | 09:11 |
| infinity | zequence: See launchpad.net/bugs/1300871 | 09:11 |
| zequence | infinity: ah, sorry. I missed it. | 09:16 |
| === kbingham_ is now known as kbingham | ||
| apw_ | cking: just lost some of my Internet or a vps or something | 10:50 |
| cking | apw_, ack | 10:51 |
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| === ara_ is now known as ara | ||
| ogasawara | rtg, apw: pmcgowan is telling me his kernel is causing panics this morning. it started yesterday. he says it's networking related. I'm having him snag a picture to throw in a bug report. | 14:02 |
| ogasawara | rtg, apw: will also have him test on an older kernel to confirm it goes away | 14:02 |
| rtg | ogasawara, brcm ? | 14:03 |
| ogasawara | rtg: am grabbing his system info | 14:03 |
| * apw wonders what release he is on | 14:03 | |
| * apw thought yesterdays update was pretty benign ? | 14:03 | |
| ogasawara | I've asked pmcgowan to jump in here | 14:05 |
| pmcgowan_ | ogasawara, the problem cannot be reported, this is not an official Ubuntu package | 14:06 |
| apw | ? | 14:06 |
| pmcgowan_ | linux-image-3.13.0-20-generic | 14:06 |
| apw | it really is | 14:07 |
| ogasawara | that's a bit odd | 14:07 |
| apw | what version is it .... dpkg -l linux-image-3.13.0-20-generic | 14:07 |
| rtg | it should be 3.13.0-22.44 | 14:07 |
| pmcgowan_ | its 3.13.0-20.42 | 14:08 |
| apw | so that was not yesterdays kernel, nor indeed the one before ? | 14:08 |
| pmcgowan_ | I would have been running it for days then | 14:08 |
| apw | is -20.42 the good one, or the new bad one | 14:09 |
| pmcgowan_ | the one that panic'd | 14:10 |
| apw | did you get a piccy, leann mentioned you were putting it in the bug, what was the # / link to the piccy | 14:10 |
| pmcgowan_ | no pic sorry, I had shut it down by then | 14:11 |
| pmcgowan_ | and ubuntu-bug wont let me report | 14:11 |
| pmcgowan_ | I can dist-upgrade and see if it occurs again, then properly record it | 14:12 |
| pmcgowan_ | apw, I dont have anything for you guys right now, so how about I get the newer kernel | 14:13 |
| apw | works for me | 14:16 |
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| pmcgowan_ | oops there it goes | 14:18 |
| pmcgowan_ | maybe its this bt device | 14:19 |
| pmcgowan_ | apw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1301990 | 14:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1301990 in linux (Ubuntu) "Samsung N9 Kernel panic" [Undecided,New] | 14:37 |
| apw | pmcgowan_, that is still -20.42 btw | 14:40 |
| pmcgowan_ | apw, right it crashed before I got to upgrade | 14:45 |
| Sarvatt | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1301990/comments/3 | 14:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1301990 in linux (Ubuntu) "Samsung N9 Kernel panic" [Undecided,New] | 14:45 |
| pmcgowan_ | apw, must be this bt trackpad, thats whats different | 14:46 |
| Sarvatt | theres a patch on lkml and that bug for it if it didn't just start happening recently, should have been broken from 3.11 and up http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-bluetooth/msg41725.html | 14:46 |
| pmcgowan_ | Sarvatt, I have not paired this device for months so I would not have seen it | 14:47 |
| Sarvatt | ah https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1252874 too, sheesh | 14:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1252874 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel panic shortly after pairing Apple Magic Touchpad" [High,In progress] | 14:49 |
| apw | Sarvatt, ok this would be fixed in 3.14-rc8 then ... | 14:49 |
| apw | pmcgowan_, i'll pull that in if i can and let you have a test kernle, though i suspect it wont' make the release kerenl | 14:50 |
| apw | but it owuld be eligable to sru anyhoo | 14:50 |
| pmcgowan_ | apw, ok cool | 14:50 |
| * pmcgowan_ finds his paperclip | 14:50 | |
| bjf | rtg, hatch pinged us yesterday about bug #1284085 which seems bad. haswell macbooks (pro and air) not booting trusty | 14:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1284085 in linux (Ubuntu) "unable to boot after install on 2013 macbook air" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284085 | 14:54 |
| * hatch waves | 14:54 | |
| rtg | bjf, does it work on yours ? | 14:54 |
| hatch | I'll do the acpi dump tonight | 14:54 |
| bjf | rtg, yes but mine isn't haswell | 14:54 |
| bjf | rtg, however, my haswell desktop and one other haswell system work just fine | 14:54 |
| hatch | re the comment from sforshee, both of us in the bug are using rEFInd | 14:55 |
| rtg | hmm, I've got a haswell desktop | 14:55 |
| bjf | yes you do | 14:55 |
| rtg | hatch, your workaround was to use something other then grub, right ? | 14:55 |
| rtg | IIRC | 14:55 |
| apw | rtg, bjf, ok i was involved in this many moons ago, one good thing is there is a work around "nr_cpus=1" or something | 14:56 |
| hatch | rtg I've never been able to get it to boot | 14:56 |
| sforshee | I've got a couple of haswell systems which are fine | 14:56 |
| apw | so it can be fixed postumously | 14:56 |
| hatch | I'll try the nr_cpus again because I think I was using it incorrectly | 14:56 |
| apw | sforshee, i see you commented just an hour back or something | 14:56 |
| bjf | sforshee, do you have a haswell macbook? | 14:56 |
| sforshee | bjf: not a macbook | 14:56 |
| hatch | but a single cpu is kind of.....not acceptable :) | 14:56 |
| sforshee | but there's an upstream bugzilla that indicates that only csm boot is affected, native efi boots fine | 14:56 |
| apw | hatch, yes but if there is a way to boot it a later update can be installed to fix it | 14:56 |
| apw | if it cannot be booted at all we are in a hole | 14:57 |
| apw | which is why the first thing we didi was find a way to boot it | 14:57 |
| hatch | yeah - ok I'll try to boot it in about 30mins and see what happens | 14:57 |
| sforshee | hatch: I looked at your dmesg and I'm pretty sure it was not an efi boot | 14:58 |
| hatch | I just guessed where to put the nr_cpus in the list | 14:58 |
| hatch | sforshee not my dmesg | 14:58 |
| hatch | :) | 14:58 |
| sforshee | okay, well the one on the bug then :-) | 14:58 |
| hatch | haha, ok so is there a specific place the nr_cpus=1 should go? | 14:59 |
| apw | hatch, on the kernel command line, so whereever you specifiy that | 14:59 |
| hatch | apw in grub I put it at the top of the command list and nothing happened | 14:59 |
| apw | i asume you have grub installed, so yuoo can hold shift to talk to that | 15:00 |
| apw | and put it where the otehr kernelly bits are | 15:00 |
| apw | at the top, no, i think hte line starts "linux" | 15:00 |
| sforshee | grep quiet /boot/grub/grub.cfg | 15:00 |
| sforshee | er | 15:00 |
| apw | yeah where quiet is in that output, on the same horizontal line as that | 15:00 |
| hatch | ok thanks, after the calls this am I'll get on that | 15:01 |
| bjf | if he can't boot how is he going to make these changes? | 15:09 |
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| hatch | bjf I can get to grub | 15:12 |
| hatch | so hopefully I can get nr_cpus to work | 15:12 |
| bjf | hatch are you using the +mac iso ? | 15:16 |
| hatch | bjf I tried both | 15:17 |
| hatch | should I be? | 15:17 |
| bjf | hatch, i have to use the +mac on mine, so that's the one i'd use | 15:17 |
| hatch | ok sure | 15:17 |
| bjf | hatch, remember mine is not haswell | 15:17 |
| hatch | yeah, I read online somewhere that I shouldn't use the +mac for haswell...but so far the outcome has been the same | 15:19 |
| bjf | hatch, are you using bootcamp, refit, something else ? | 15:19 |
| hatch | I'm not sure what the difference is | 15:19 |
| hatch | rEFInd | 15:19 |
| sforshee | hatch: which install image did you use? The normal desktop one or the mac one? | 15:20 |
| hatch | I tried both last night - I think the currently installed is the 13.10 from the public download page | 15:20 |
| sforshee | hatch: oops, I see bjf already asked | 15:20 |
| apw | hatch, when you are booted successfully could you find out which grub bits are installed 'dpkg -l | grep grub' | 15:23 |
| rtg | bjf, sforshee - looks like another failure to boot on Apple: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1301590 | 15:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1301590 in linux (Ubuntu) "System does not boot" [High,Confirmed] | 15:33 |
| hatch | 13.10 runs surprisingly well on a single core | 16:08 |
| hatch | adding the acpi, dmesg, and grub outputs to the ticket | 16:08 |
| hatch | hope those help solve the problem :) anything else let me know and I can try it out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1284085 | 16:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1284085 in linux (Ubuntu) "unable to boot after install on 2013 macbook air" [High,Confirmed] | 16:11 |
| hatch | sforshee so are you saying that I'm choosing the incorrect option in rEFInd after creating the livecd? There were three options, I just picked the one which actually made sense, the others were just paths to grub if I remember correctly | 17:20 |
| hatch | this is the instructions followed for creating the bootable usb stick http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx | 17:20 |
| sforshee | hatch: so all that stuff in those instructions are completely unnecessary nowadays, at least for recent macs | 18:09 |
| sforshee | you can just dd the image to the usb stick | 18:09 |
| hatch | well then.... lol | 18:09 |
| sforshee | and the option which is a path to grub is what you really want | 18:10 |
| sforshee | we should probably still be able to boot the way you did it though, unless apple really screwed something up in the bios emulation | 18:10 |
| hatch | entirely possible | 18:10 |
| hatch | haha | 18:10 |
| sforshee | but I don't recommend using bios emulation, sometimes they turn off features there | 18:11 |
| hatch | and should I use the +mac image? I don't know what the difference is | 18:11 |
| hatch | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 18:11 |
| sforshee | I've been using the desktop image for at least a year now on macs without any problems | 18:11 |
| hatch | ok sounds like a plan | 18:11 |
| hatch | well I hope this was just me screwing this up all along | 18:12 |
| sforshee | hatch: once you've booted efi though I'd like to get another acpi table dump to compare with the one under bios emulation | 18:12 |
| hatch | you bet - I won't be able to do that until tonight though | 18:13 |
| sforshee | because really assuming that Windows can boot under the Apple emulation, we should be able to also | 18:13 |
| sforshee | but it's also curious that you can do it from the live image, which makes me wonder if grub is doing something to contribute to the problem | 18:13 |
| hatch | yeah the liveimage boots just fine | 18:14 |
| hatch | any grub related commands you'd like the output from? | 18:14 |
| sforshee | not off the top of my head, I'm no grub guru | 18:15 |
| hatch | I found it odd that rEFInd dumps me into grub after selecting the Ubuntu install. | 18:16 |
| hatch | so maybe using the EFI install that will also be fixed | 18:16 |
| sforshee | hatch: I believe displaying the grub prompt is the default whenever other OSes are detected | 18:19 |
| sforshee | or the grub menu, rather | 18:19 |
| hatch | ohh ok | 18:20 |
| rtg | dannf, do we generate arm64 installation images somewhere ? I found some stuff here: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/ | 19:59 |
| dannf | rtg: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/trusty/main/installer-arm64/current/images/generic/ | 20:03 |
| rtg | dannf, thanks | 20:03 |
| the_fifteenth | Just wanted to let y'all know, there might be a bug | 22:36 |
| the_fifteenth | Holding alt+sysrq and pressing r then j crashes the kernel. B won't even reboot | 22:36 |
| the_fifteenth | J is supposed to do an emergency thaw by the way | 22:36 |
| dannf | apw: LP: #1063895 - should i move that to fix-released ? | 23:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1063895 in linux (Ubuntu) "arm64 support to generate linux-source for crosstool bulds" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1063895 | 23:16 |
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