[03:09] <ibeardslee> mutter UbuntuOne being turned off
[03:12] <olly> "Canonical plans to make the code for Ubuntu One available as open source so others can build their own open-source services." reads as "now it's no use to us any more, you can have it"
[03:15] <ibeardslee> probably not in time for me to migrate to someone building a replacement with that code
[03:16] <olly> nice typo in the comments - "This is only one cloud service I use and I would like to used on my NSA."
[03:16] <ibeardslee> heh
[03:16] <olly> or perhaps it's a poor joke
[03:16] <olly> (I assumed they meant "NAS")
[03:18] <ibeardslee> I'd assume that'd be right
[03:18] <ibeardslee> .. they mean NAS
[03:26] <olly> hmm, so if canonical are giving up on the network storage space because it's so crowded, are they also going to drop out of the Linux distro and mobile OS spaces?
[03:27] <mwhudson> no :)
[04:24] <G> olly, prob not worth the security headaches, I remember when file sharing links were predictable a guy I used to work with scripted walking the site detecting what people were sharing
[08:28] <hads> I did mean to give Ubuntu One a look one day. Guess I left it too late.
[08:46] <olly> hads: i love it when todo list entries go away just by being ignored for long enough
[09:14] <hads> Probably as many items get ticked off my list that way than any other way.
[09:20] <chilts> olly: no, haven't received anything from them
[18:52] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:53] <ibeardslee> I think it is a bit unfortunate that they are dropping the UbuntuOne, because it would have been the ideal thing to link in with their phones
[18:53] <ibeardslee> ubuntu phone comes with UbuntuOne storage and music etc
[19:31] <ajmitch> morning
[19:42] <olly> morning
[20:39] <ibeardslee> Friday .. a good day to do a version upgrade to the work saucy machine
[20:42] <ajmitch> upgrading to trusty?
[20:45] <ibeardslee> yeap
[20:45]  * olly wonders what else you'd upgrade a saucy machine to
[20:45] <ibeardslee> down the track I will do a full reinstall from scratch
[20:47] <ibeardslee> just want to run through the process once before the hordes at work will start considering it
[20:51] <ajmitch> olly: debian? :)
[20:55] <olly> quite painful as an upgrade I suspect
[20:56] <ibeardslee> well .. let's see if I am back online shortly
[20:56] <mwhudson> oh yes i should probably do that too
[20:59] <olly> we did a mass ubuntu to debian switch and settled on unpacking a debian install into /debian and then switching files around early in the next boot via a script in initramfs
[21:00] <olly> which worked very nicely, though it helped that these machines all had a standard setup
[21:02] <ibeardslee> yeah ouch
[21:02] <ibeardslee> not a clean upgrade
[21:05] <olly> andrew mcmillan managed to do an upgrade from ubuntu to debian on his son's machine, but it was pretty hard work
[21:08] <ibeardslee> unless i was extra special, I wouldn't recommend a saucy to trusty upgrade at the moment
[21:08] <ajmitch> ibeardslee: considering that it's due for release Real Soon Now, it should have been upgradeable
[21:08] <ajmitch> what broke?
[21:09] <ibeardslee> a bunch of packages failed (I have a list), and on the reboot it wouldn't let me login and there were over 1000 packages still to be upgraded
[21:10] <ibeardslee> wouldn't let me login through the gui
[21:10] <ajmitch> ouch
[21:10] <ibeardslee> had to do an apt-get install -f to get around some problems
[21:10] <ibeardslee> doing a apt-get dist-upgrade now to get the rest of the package upgrades
[21:11] <ajmitch> did you use the upgrade tool initially?
[21:11] <ibeardslee> yeap
[21:11] <ibeardslee> do-release-upgrade -d
[21:18] <ibeardslee> 1482 packages not originally upgraded
[23:22] <ibeardslee> and it seems to be working now
[23:29] <ibeardslee> gah .. and don't upgrade if you use UbuntuOne