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valorieis anyone working on this network manager problem?04:28
valoriei'm not the only one with no wireless04:28
valorieno help in #ubuntu+104:28
valoriein other news, no sound in flash04:36
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1275584] Kubuntu 14.04 Kickoff Font Look Ugly / Jerky @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1275584 (by j2snowden)04:57
jussivalorie: are you sure you didnt jst install hardy heron or something? :P :P05:01
valoriejussi: wifi worked before the upgrade/restart05:14
valorieand not since05:14
jussivalorie: was a joke...05:14
valorienot sure about the flash silence, but I think I used youtube yesterday05:15
valoriethis ethernet cable is really bad05:16
valorie'connector' erratic05:16
jussivalorie: funny, I have no updates offered05:37
jussivalorie: you sure your HW switch is on?05:37
valoriewhy would it turn off when I restarted?05:38
valoriethis laptop doesn't have a hardware switch, anyway05:38
valoriethe f12 button light is on05:39
valoriethe weird thing is that NM sees all the wireless available05:39
valoriebut the connect button does nothing05:39
lordievadervalorie: You could try wpa_supplicant to see what exactly goes wrong.05:40
valorieI suppose, but I'm not expert enough to interpret that05:41
valorieI guess I can try filing a bug against network-manager and see what happens05:42
valorieI didn't have time earlier, and was hoping for an easy fix to appear while I was out05:42
valorieno such luck.....05:42
lordievaderHope it is not another problem of the kernel, heard BluesKaj earlier with the same problem.05:43
valoriethe fact that I have silence in flash also, makes me suspect so05:43
lordievaderSince it would be very unfortunate so close before the release :(05:44
valoriegah, apport-kde is still crashing when you try to use ubuntu-bug05:44
valoriegrrrr05:44
valorielordievader: exactly05:45
valorieI have a cable, and can use that05:45
valoriebut damn it, what about our users?05:45
valoriethe alpha was smooth, the beta has been awesome -- until today05:45
lordievaderTrusty has been stable till the beta for me, then some OpenGL issues arose.05:46
valoriehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/130234805:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1302348 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "after today's Trusty updates/restart, NM will not connect to wifi" [Undecided,New]05:55
lordievadervalorie: I'll forward this to BluesKaj when I see him.05:56
valoriewas he able to get online somehow?05:56
valorieand thank you05:56
lordievadervalorie: Cable, he was at a friends house. Wanted to show how awesome Linux was to his Windows friends. Then the wifi failed.05:57
lordievaderI see quite a few wireless related bugs in the kernel bug tracker. :(05:57
valorierecent ones?05:57
valorieLP only reported one to me05:57
valorieoh, kernel bug tracker05:58
lordievaderhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/linux-kernel-bugs05:58
valoriebummer05:58
lordievaderNot more than a day ago.05:58
valorieI think it's bizarre that nm detects the wireless signals but won't connect05:58
valorieso I really wonder if it is the kernel05:59
lordievaderSeeing probes and authenticating are two different things.05:59
lordievaderIf the WPA2 encryption where to fail it is not very strange that authenticating fails.05:59
valorieha, I see my silence in that list of kernel bugs06:02
valorieor maybe06:04
valoriegosh, linux sound is so complicated06:04
freinhardhi!06:54
freinhardinstalled beta2 yesterday. 06:54
freinhardafter a dist-upgrade network-manager didn't connect to wifi any more, the "connect" button for a wifi just does nothing now exept for asking for a password06:55
freinhardi even deleted my whole home dir and rebooted06:55
valoriefreinhard: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/130234806:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1302348 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "after today's Trusty updates/restart, NM will not connect to wifi" [Undecided,New]06:55
valorieplease add your feedback06:56
freinhardthx06:56
freinhardfurthermore there are now "upstart-*" files in my home directory06:56
freinhardwhere do they come from?06:57
valoriefreinhard: you might just `ubuntu-bug network-manager` and comment when that shows you my bug06:57
valoriethat way they will get a bunch of reports from your computer06:57
valorie!info upstart06:58
valoriehuh06:58
ubottuupstart (source: upstart): event-based init daemon. In component main, is required. Version 1.10-0ubuntu7 (saucy), package size 557 kB, installed size 1576 kB06:58
freinhardk, i'll do that after work. cu06:59
valoriethanks, freinhard06:59
jussivalorie: from elsewhere: [09:48:43] <MartijnVdS> ugh... isc-dhcp-client seems broken in trusty07:11
jussimight be related07:12
valoriehuh, I can't mount anything either07:12
valoriejust like a fellow in #kubuntu07:12
valoriedamn it07:12
valorieand I can't copy/paste the error07:13
valoriebasically, device does not exist07:14
apacheloggeryofel: I think the correct way to debug dbus problems is actually calling qdbus, which will tell you why it is not working :P07:39
valoriehmmmm, old kernel works well07:41
valorieI think that's bad news07:41
sbivolMorning, developers. I just spotted that the blue-shell PPA in Launchpad is full and some packages failed to build. 07:51
sbivolby „full” I mean out of space07:52
valorieyofel: are you about? I guess you suggested installing a particular kde-workspace-bin, but: http://paste.kde.org/ply1l2ch308:06
valorieit would be lovely to have everything working with the latest kernel08:06
apacheloggervalorie: report a bug08:09
valorieI did, my dear08:09
apacheloggerif it worked in an older kernel I guess there was a regression in the driver08:09
apacheloggerother than that there's not much to be done08:10
valoriehowever, I reported it against nm08:10
valorieit seems there are other problems as well08:10
apacheloggershould be kernel I reckon ;)08:10
apacheloggervalorie: such as?08:10
valorieI'll try to log into the newer kernel in a minute08:10
valorieno sound08:10
valorienot able to mount devices08:11
valorieno wifi connection08:11
valorieso far, that's my list08:11
apacheloggerohm08:11
apacheloggernot able to mount devices sounds slightly suspicious08:11
valorieso, major suckage08:11
apacheloggermaybe they botched the kernel ^^08:11
valorieI'm thinking so08:11
apacheloggervalorie: when did you install?08:11
valoriethis morning08:12
apacheloggermuch peculiar08:12
valoriebut didn't have time to mess about until tonight08:12
valorieindeed08:12
apacheloggermh08:13
apacheloggervalorie: there is a new kernel in proposed that has like 300000 git cherrypicks08:13
valorieoh lovely08:13
apacheloggerchances are the previous kernel was broken and this uploaded fixes it08:13
valoriewhat could possibly go wrong?08:13
valorieso you think I should just dist-upgrade?08:14
valorieit's a possibility.....08:14
apacheloggervalorie: not yet in regular trusty08:14
apacheloggeryou'll have to wait a bit08:14
apacheloggeror you could enable proposed which I would not recommend08:14
apacheloggeranyway, once you get the new kernel, if the issues persist I guess you'll want to file a bug against the kernel08:14
valorieI'll be in bed in ~30 mins, so it will have to wait some hours08:14
valorieblueskaj had the same issue I did08:14
valorieas did others08:15
valoriek08:15
valoriealso they did: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/130239408:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1302394 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "isc-dhcp-client fails to upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:16
valorieso all kinds of fun today08:16
valoriealso:08:18
valorie!bug 130233108:18
ubottubug 1302264 in systemd (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1302331 systemd-logind assert failure: error.c:319: Assertion failed in nih_error_get: context_stack != NULL" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130226408:18
valoriebut i think that is just for proposed08:18
valorieanyway, I'm going to try the new kernel again now that I've tinkered a bit08:23
valoriedunno about the qdbus change but whatever08:23
valorieworks!08:28
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lordievaderGood morning.08:40
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/taEROqc.png08:49
apacheloggeranyone ever seen that text rendering problem?08:49
valorieewww08:50
apacheloggerhappens like half the time when hovering files in the file chooser08:50
Kalidarnhmm i accepted an update now my two audio devices are greyed out08:51
Kalidarn"Dummy Output" seems to be the only available oen08:51
Kalidarni'm also seeing PID files appear in my home directory08:53
Kalidarnupstart-dbus-bridge.2391.pid08:53
Kalidarnupstart-file-bridge.2391.pid08:53
valorieodd08:53
apacheloggernah, something's busted in upstart/systemd08:54
apacheloggerI think that's only in proposed though08:54
apacheloggerso make sure proposed is not enabled :P08:54
Kalidarni haven't enabled it myself08:55
Kalidarnhmm more updates09:00
Kalidarn;)09:00
ovidiu-florindoes anyone know why this happens? http://paste.kde.org/pf0u4arhv/ufqjws09:00
valorieapachelogger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C--78OvblaA !09:00
valoriewatch the hats09:00
ovidiu-florinit's a Kubuntu 13.10 live CD09:01
valorieovidiu-florin: are you out of space?09:01
ovidiu-florinthe whole system froze09:01
Kalidarnapachelogger: some of the updates systemd :D09:01
Kalidarnso hopefully whatever was broken is fixed09:01
ovidiu-florinI have 3 GB of RAM valorie09:01
Kalidarnovidiu-florin: because your computer wants you to join with vim09:02
apachelogger^ that09:02
apacheloggerovidiu-florin: did you do anything else in the live session?09:03
ovidiu-florina few things09:03
apacheloggerall of them might have exhausted your memory then09:04
ovidiu-florinUp to step 3 https://github.com/retspen/webvirtmgr/wiki/Install-WebVirtMgr09:04
valorieyour poor computer09:04
apacheloggeryeah, memory exhausted09:04
valorieyou ran it on a hot day with no water09:04
apacheloggeryou basically have 1.5 gib of RAM available for fake-disk-space09:04
ovidiu-florinwhat about swap?09:05
apacheloggerbetween 500 and 750 will be consumed for the live session right after startup09:05
apacheloggerovidiu-florin: swap is not used and I think in terms of overlayfs it doesn't matter anyway, it will simply refuse to swap09:05
Kalidarnapachelogger: yep that update fixed it09:05
apacheloggerovidiu-florin: you can try to swapon09:05
apacheloggerbut really, I don't know why you are doing this in a live session to begin with :P09:06
ovidiu-florinbecause it's a test09:08
apacheloggerit's a more reliable test if you do a VM install and test in the VM09:10
ovidiu-florinI agree09:10
ovidiu-florinbut not if you test a virtual machine manager09:10
ovidiu-florinwith virtual machines09:11
apacheloggerwhich takes like 5 minutes longer and doesn't suffer from live session induced problems :)09:11
valoriethere were problems with VMs today too09:14
valorieperhaps that new kernel will make all that go away again09:14
valorieugh, almost 2:30am09:16
valorieniters all09:16
Riddell"Achim Bohnet (allee) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2015-04-11" yay alleehol still loves us!10:03
Riddellfile:///usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.desktop/contents/views/Panel.qml:20:1: module "QtQuick.Layouts" is not installed  import QtQuick.Layouts 1.1 10:22
Riddellanyone know what package to install for QtQuick.Layouts?10:22
RiddellMirv: ↑10:22
sgclarkGood Morning Riddell: any tasks for me today?10:25
Riddellsgclark: hmm10:27
Riddellsgclark: no simple packaging comes to mind, working out how to get plasma alpha working would be useful, test libreoffice SRU too10:28
Riddellsgclark: I wonder how shadeslayer_'s backport of 4.13 RC got10:29
sgclarkRiddell: plasma alpha sounds interesting10:29
Riddellsgclark: you'll need to make a new chroot of trusty10:29
Riddellsgclark: mount -t none -o bind /tmp trusty/tmp    then same for /dev and /proc10:30
Riddellrun Xephyr :2 outside the chroot10:30
Riddellexport DISPLAY=:2  inside the chroot10:30
Riddellinstall from kubuntu-ppa/experimental  kde-workspace-kf510:30
Riddellrun   plasma-shell  and startkde and see what works10:31
sgclarkRiddell: ok10:31
MirvRiddell: Riddell qtdeclarative5-quicklayouts-plugin10:43
Riddellthanks Mirv, now I'm onto working out QtQuick.Window10:44
RiddellMirv: there has to be an easier way to find these things out10:44
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:45
apacheloggerRiddell: is there an easier way for finding out where a python class comes from other than guessing wildly or asking google?10:46
Riddellapachelogger: no but python packaging is also an art, I want a science :)10:47
apacheloggerwell, it's the same for qml plugins :P10:48
apacheloggerI can give you a sort of sensible approach of how to deal with it in general... at buidltime you could build a list of all IIDs and fiddle that in as a debian/control property such that you could then look it via the deb control data10:50
Riddellthis could mean some messy packaging10:50
apacheloggernope10:50
* Riddell installs everything named qtdeclarative in the archive to see what happens10:50
apacheloggerjust means every qml plugin needs to have some additional debhelper to figure this out10:50
apacheloggerfiguring out what IIDs are provided is a bit tricky though10:51
apacheloggersince they can be path based, or so-file based (i.e. binary plugin)10:51
apacheloggernot terribly hard probably eitherway though10:51
apacheloggerRiddell: note that some are actually called qml-plugin- or something ;)10:52
Riddellnope they seem to be all qtdeclarative5-foo10:53
Riddellbut we haven't yet settled on a best practice for version number in foo10:54
apacheloggerfair enough, maybe that was another distribution ^^10:54
Riddelltricky since qml modules can contain several versions10:54
apachelogger(which would also be solved by a control data property :P10:55
apachelogger)10:55
Riddellsgclark: this is as good as I get http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-shell1.png11:36
sgclarkRiddell: well at least you know what time it is!11:36
Riddell:)11:37
alvinCan I call qdbus? Hmm. I'm not sure.11:41
Riddellalvin: what's the context? why do you ask?11:44
alvinWell, Trusty doesn't want me to log into KDE. It asks. (just a moment...)11:44
alvinCould not start D-Bus. Can you call qdbus?11:45
Riddellalvin: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?11:45
sgclarkRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7202872/11:45
Riddellsgclark: this is in a new chroot?11:46
alvinRiddell: Yes, but I might try to purge and reinstall it to satisfy dependencies. (Don't know if that is actually the best method)11:46
sgclarkRiddell: freshly made yes11:46
Riddellsgclark: have you installed kubuntu-desktop or other stuff inside it?11:46
sgclarkRiddell: nope11:47
sgclarkRiddell: added ppa and did update is all I have done11:47
alvinNah. It only reinstalled Quassel (I only use quassel-client, so I removed it earlier.) That's it.11:47
Riddellsgclark: can you install kde-runtime-kf5 ?11:48
Riddellalvin: well check if you can call qdbus I guess, sounds like it has broken somehow11:49
sgclarkRiddell: same mixed depend versions failure11:49
Riddellsgclark: oh you might need to add universe11:50
Riddellin /etc/apt/sources.list11:50
Riddellthat'll be it11:50
sgclarkRiddell: ok ty11:50
alvin/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gt5/bin/qdbus does not exist. Missing package?11:50
Riddellalvin: install qt4-defaults dbus-qt411:51
sgclarkRiddell: that was it :) thanks!11:53
alvinRiddell: Don't you mean qdbus-qt5?11:55
Riddellalvin: not if you're using kde 411:58
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alvinI see that qdbus-qt5 is not part of Trusty by default, but it did fix it.12:05
shadeslayer_not required by default12:07
shadeslayer_Riddell: ping12:12
shadeslayer_Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+packages?field.name_filter=phonon&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=12:13
shadeslayer_Riddell: both need uploading12:13
Riddellshadeslayer_: cool, will get to it after lunch12:15
shadeslayer_Riddell: cheers12:16
shadeslayer_Riddell: I don't have time to fix issues on those today, but atleast for me it upgrades just fine12:16
shadeslayer_Riddell: so if you find issues, please fix and upload :)12:16
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freinhardvalorie: just installed cgmanager and rebooted1. looks promising so far. unfortunately my ac adapter just died...12:27
sgclarkRiddell: bash: plasma-shell: command not found and startkde spews lots of errors possibly due to previous error12:56
Riddellsgclark: you need to install plasma-framework5 and a bunch of other things12:57
Riddellsgclark: I uploaded a ~ppa6 version of kde-workspace-kf5 with the dependencies I know on it12:57
Riddellsgclark: but it failed to build, so investigating that would be good if you want to12:57
sgclarkRiddell: ok will do12:58
Riddellsgclark: I added a depends on kdelibs-bin which is from kde 4 land and shouldn't be needed, try removing it and see what breaks12:59
sgclarkRiddell: ok13:00
soeeuhm kwalletd crash13:00
shadeslayer_soee: apt-cache policy kde-runtime plz13:09
alleeholvHanda: I've 100% CPU usage baloo_file_extractor that does almost no IO (few kb/sec) for hours  until I kill it.  Any hint how to collect useful information?13:16
sgclarkRiddell: ok found a missing comma in depend, removed kdelibs-bin, it is building now.13:17
vHandaalleehol: check what arguments it has been called with? $ ps aux | grep baloo_file13:18
alleeholvHanda: lots of numbers.  Should I restart the extractor?13:21
vHandano please run $ balooshow <numbers> 13:21
vHandaand pastebin the result13:21
vHandaalso, what version are you on?13:21
alleeholvHanda: 4.13 rc1 updated last night13:22
shadeslayer_Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+files/kdeconnect_0.5.1-0ubuntu1.dsc13:35
shadeslayer_needs uploading13:35
soeeshadeslayer_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7203320/13:47
shadeslayer_soee: backtrace?13:48
shadeslayer_soee: please also report upstreamer13:48
soeeshadeslayer_: when i wanted to send report it said that this package changed or is not the same since last .. something and report cant be send13:49
soeeso maybe its after some updates 13:50
sgclarkRiddell: err copyright file is void of copyright info, want me to go ahead an fix that? :)14:05
shadeslayer_Riddell: did you upload pgst/pgst4qt5/kdeconnect?14:08
shadeslayer_because I am going to be unavailable starting tomorriow14:08
shadeslayer_so I won't have a chance to follow up14:09
alleeholvHanda: FWIW: up to now only a baloo_file_extractor with ~ 2 min 100% cpu.  During the baloo_file_extractor was running 'crazy' and after it had ended,  balooshow  <ids>  had the same output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7203452/  So I assume that the last 16 file were not indexed.    I report again when I  run into the 'for hours' 100%  extractor process ...14:27
vHanda:O you have multiple extractor processes14:28
vHandathat shouldn't happen, but then I've fixed some of the bugs which I think caused that14:28
vHandabut that's after the rc14:28
alleeholvHanda: I had at least up to 37 14:29
alleeholat one point14:29
alleeholvHanda: would it be worth to give  a baloo git deb pkgs more testing before 4.13 final?14:34
vHandathat would be awesome14:36
vHandaif you can14:36
shadeslayer_do we even have those :P14:38
alleeholvHanda: I can give it a try.   Which repo(s?) & branch14:38
vHandabaloo and KDE/4.1314:38
alleeholvHanda: ok14:39
alleeholsgclark: AFAIR you build from git already.  Which tools best to easy pkging from git14:41
sgclarkalleehol: I have not packaged from git sorry14:44
alleeholshadeslayer_: I need to pkg baloo from kde git for testing.  Do kubuntu devs have some handy scripts to make it easy?14:48
freinhardhi!14:50
freinhardisn't that ironic when the bugreport tool crashes?14:51
ghostcubenah, ironic would be if the bug report tool asks you for the bureport of the bugreporttool crash14:52
ghostcube-.-14:52
freinhard:D14:52
Riddellsgclark: I wouldn't spend much time on stuff like copyright, these packages will all get split up in the next release so no point fussing over the details14:52
Riddellshadeslayer_: seems my lunch was a bit longer than I'd hoped, will get to it shortly14:53
Riddellshadeslayer_: any changelog for kdeconnect? any new features?14:54
shadeslayer_Riddell: not really, I was told it's only bug fixes14:57
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sgclarkRiddell: ok :) anything here I need to be concerned about? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7203610/15:03
Riddellsgclark: nope, all fine for these scratch packages15:07
Riddellsgclark: the question is just can you get something to run :)15:07
sgclarkRiddell: gotcha :)15:09
sgclarkRiddell: it is still running through pbuilder, but the files are https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kubuntu/kubuntu_packaging/kde-workspace-kf5/ if you want to upload now. Disregard the ppa5 file that snuck in there.15:21
shadeslayer_sgclark: kdepimruntime needs fixing if you want15:22
sgclarkshadeslayer_: sure, if it can wait for this to finish building15:23
sgclarkshadeslayer_: which kdepim-runtime do I need to be fixing? Only one I found was from back in mid March.15:31
shadeslayer_http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.12.97_saucy.html15:33
sgclarkshadeslayer_: thanks15:34
freinhardshould the button "add" in "kcmshell4 kcm_ssl" be working? just fails silently on 13.10 and 14.0415:43
freinhardhow to reproduce: wget http://www.cacert.org/certs/root.der; kcmshell4 kcm_ssl15:44
freinhardhit add on the lower right, select root.der and see nothing ;)15:44
* Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2014/04/04/plasma-next-alpha15:46
Riddellfreinhard: I confirm, but that's pretty specialist code, you'd need to find someone knowledgeable upstream like rich moore to ask15:47
sgclarkRiddell: kde-workspace-kf5 did pass pbuilder if you have not got them yet.15:52
Riddellsgclark: great, I did upload it15:54
Riddellsgclark: but I think it'll be missing something yet, I had it complain about not finding QtQuick.Window which I fixed by installing every qtdeclarative5- package in the archive, but it would be nice to find out which one that is15:55
sgclarkRiddell: ok, helping out shadeslayer_ with kdepim-runtime15:55
Riddellsgclark: also I had to manually set QML2_IMPORT_PATH even though I think I patched startkde, so that needs checked out15:55
Riddellsgclark: sure, whatever you have time15:55
sgclarkRiddell: ahhh, ok, I will certainly fiddle around with all of that15:56
alleeholvHanda: still with rc1: 3 extractor proc with identical ids  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7203812/ running at the same time.  Using 20+/-1 min CPU time with ~ 100% each.    balooshow  shows again that the last ~ 12 ids are not indexed yet.   15:59
shadeslayer_apachelogger: review plz http://paste.ubuntu.com/7203824/15:59
alleeholvHanda: when I upgrade baloo to KDE/4.13 branch.  How to restart the baloo_file 'master' process?16:00
apacheloggershadeslayer_: that indention looks funny16:04
apacheloggershadeslayer_: FWIW, I am not sure that is a sane thing from a continuity POV16:04
apacheloggerchange looks fine though16:05
apacheloggershadeslayer_: please note to test whether it will actually remove stuff on unchecking though :)16:05
shadeslayer_apachelogger: it does16:05
shadeslayer_tried it in vbox16:05
shadeslayer_apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7203857/16:05
alleeholsgclark: but how to fix symbol files you know, right: :-)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7203898/16:17
freinhardif you click in dolphin on a crt file, the "View file" thing pops up. there's an import button. It's grey for me. can someone confirm?16:18
sgclarkalleehol: pkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch -v VERSION < /path/to/buildlog16:19
Riddellalleehol: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html  (it's spooky voodoo)16:23
shadeslayer_Riddell: apachelogger virtualbox has no restart/shutdown buttons16:28
Riddellshadeslayer_: yes it does, the X in the top right of the window :)16:28
shadeslayer_pft16:29
freinhardi'm confused. ksmshell filetypes lists ".cert, .crt, .pem, .der" for "appliaction/x-x509-ca-cert"16:29
alleeholsgclark, Riddell: thx.   I'll try after I prepared dinner. afk16:30
shadeslayer_Riddell: i meant in the kickoff16:30
freinhardkcm_ssl opens a KFileDialog with that filetype, but it only lists .der files16:30
Riddellfreinhard: that certificate viewer seems to be gnome keyring, how curious16:33
freinhardRiddell: not for me, i removed it16:34
freinhardRiddell: after the systemupdate i removed it in search of the "why does wlan not work anymore" bug16:35
freinhardRiddell: here it's opened with gcr-viwer from the gcr package16:37
Riddellfreinhard: yes gnome crypto, that's what I ment16:37
Riddellshouldn't be on our images but is16:37
Riddellfreinhard: kcm_ssl only listing .der files may be deliberate or may be a bug but it needs someone knowledgeable upstream to fix it16:38
freinhardi'll post in #kde16:38
freinhardi'll post in #kde-devel16:38
Riddellfreinhard: probably more specialist than that channel can manage16:38
Riddellonly so many people know about security and certificates16:39
freinhardthe more you know about it the less you want to know ;)16:39
Riddellshadeslayer_: phonon uploaded with a wee fix for s/0.10/1.0/ in one dependency, my music still plays in amarok so I'm happy :)16:40
shadeslayer_awesome16:40
* Riddell blogs http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=14516:49
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sgclarkshadeslayer_: or Riddell: the problam with kdepim-runtime in saucy is libkolab libkolabxml required versions are not available in saucy (only older version) so it is not built, do we want to upgrade these or remove that support from saucy? 18:20
yofelbackport the newer ones18:20
sgclarkty yofel18:21
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valorieghostcube said: <ghostcube> [14:52:29] nah, ironic would be if the bug report tool asks you for the bureport of the bugreporttool crash21:48
valoriethat has happened a couple of times21:49
yofelwell, happens ^^21:49
* valorie strikes an ironic pose21:50
valorieok, time for daily updates; crossing my fingers after yesterday's challenges21:51

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