| === chalcedony is now known as chalcedony` | ||
| testco | Anyone using 14.04? Is it frozen now so no breaking changes? | 01:06 |
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| mic_ | hello | 01:22 |
| Addle | testco: Well, some things broke in my latest update, so I'd say expect breakage. | 01:31 |
| testco | Addle: this afternoon's update? that broke a lot of things | 01:33 |
| testco | for everyone | 01:33 |
| Addle | testco: Yeah, have to agree. :) | 01:33 |
| Addle | Looks like it'll be nice, once things smooth out, though. | 01:34 |
| Xeno | Can any anyone help me? on my last update I get when I try to login to Kubuntu 14.04 could not start dbus. can you call qdbus? Well I found the fix is to apt-get install qdbus-qt5 but I am running wireless, do I have to connect to a ethernet cable to get it to work? | 02:05 |
| Addle | Xeno: Was the only way I found to get internet back after that update. | 02:35 |
| Addle | Xeno: Though I bet calling wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd yourself would work. | 02:36 |
| Addle | Xeno: Well, maybe not "bet", but seems likely. :) | 02:37 |
| Xeno | Sorry was out of the room | 02:38 |
| Xeno | I do Ctrl + Alt + F1 to get terminal but I have no internet with wireless, I have tried apt-get update and I get errors | 02:40 |
| Addle | If you can plug it into a physical ethernet, that's the easiest way. | 02:40 |
| Xeno | I thought so I would have to move my computer from the room to the living room but it's not a problem if I had to | 02:41 |
| Addle | If you don't mind getting your hands dirty, you can try using wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd directly. | 02:42 |
| Addle | Xeno: This might help if you try that: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant | 02:42 |
| Addle | Xeno: Just ignore the systemd stuff and check the Manual Configuration section. | 02:43 |
| Addle | Still, might be more expedient just to move it. :) | 02:43 |
| Xeno | ok either way, I am still learning Linux but I like when I get to learn more so I might get my hands dirty on this one :-) | 02:45 |
| Addle | Xeno: It's useful knowledge, anyways. | 02:45 |
| Addle | Xeno: Ugh, you might need to use dhclient instead of dhcpcd to get an IP, though. dhcpcd isn't installed on this fresh 13.10 installation, anyways. | 02:46 |
| === Golden_Dawn is now known as Dr_No | ||
| === dex is now known as Guest2338 | ||
| mokush | is anybody on the latest beta? any idea why after an upgrade I did just now I can't mount any media | 07:05 |
| mokush | ntfs or anything else | 07:05 |
| Addle | mokush: Probably kdbus borked, if I were to guess. | 07:07 |
| mokush | Addle: any idea how I could duck-tape it? until updates with fixes are available? | 07:08 |
| mokush | also network manager shows that I'm not connected to any network, even if my wired connection seems to be working fine | 07:08 |
| valorie | mokush: have you filed a bug about this? | 07:08 |
| valorie | mokush: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1302348 | 07:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1302348 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "after today's Trusty updates/restart, NM will not connect to wifi" [Undecided,New] | 07:08 |
| valorie | please comment on this bug | 07:09 |
| mokush | valorie: not yet, it just happened 2 minutes ago after I did the dist-upgrade | 07:09 |
| valorie | I'll try to mount my phone | 07:09 |
| mokush | btw, the error dolphin reports when trying to mount is 'An error occurred while accessing 'drive', the system responded: An unspecified error has occurred: Not authorized to perform operation' | 07:09 |
| valorie | that's helpful | 07:09 |
| Addle | mokush: I shouldn't have closed the info I had found. Looking for it... | 07:10 |
| valorie | btw: #ubuntu+1 for Trusty | 07:10 |
| Addle | mokush: Search for qdbus in this: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/22/%23kubuntu-devel.txt | 07:12 |
| Addle | tl;dr "<yofel> so the solutions are: a) replace qt5-default with qt4-default b) install qdbus-qt5 c) install kde-workspace-bin >= 4:4.11.6-0ubuntu3" | 07:12 |
| Addle | I think PolKit also had an issue. | 07:12 |
| Addle | Here's a thread on it: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65005-quot-Could-not-start-d-bus-Can-you-call-qdbus-quot | 07:13 |
| Addle | About the PolKit issue: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65082-systemd-update-screwed-up-policy-kit-network-manager-and-muon-qapt | 07:14 |
| Addle | Hm, not sure that last one is relevant. That's for trusty-proposed. | 07:15 |
| valorie | !info cgmanager | 07:15 |
| ubottu | Package cgmanager does not exist in saucy | 07:15 |
| Addle | Does seem to be in trusty: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/cgmanager | 07:16 |
| Addle | Just not sure about the systemd thing being in trusty proper. | 07:17 |
| Addle | Wow: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/systemd-services | 07:18 |
| Addle | Didn't think systemd would be in this release. Doubt it would be the default init for trusty. | 07:19 |
| valorie | well, cgmanager is now installed | 07:19 |
| valorie | we'll see if it helps | 07:19 |
| valorie | systemd isn't installed on my system according to apt-cache policy though | 07:20 |
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| Addle | Yeah, I guess it's there for people to experiment with. | 07:22 |
| Unit193 | Addle: 'systemd' isn't in this release, the package is a shim only. | 07:22 |
| Addle | Unit193: Oh, that makes sense. Thanks! | 07:23 |
| Addle | Figured that was a little quick, as integrations go. :) | 07:23 |
| alex____ | bonjour !! | 07:25 |
| Addle | Bonjour, alex____ :) | 07:25 |
| alex____ | je decouvre ! :) | 07:26 |
| Addle | *découvre ;) | 07:29 |
| Addle | Behold my language character set switching skillz! | 07:30 |
| === thelionroars is now known as thelionsleeps | ||
| alex____ | oui je vien de découvrir ce site | 07:30 |
| Addle | C'est une bonne place, mais surtout conduit en englais. | 07:32 |
| Addle | There's a french channel, right? At least for ubuntu? | 07:32 |
| Addle | !fr | 07:32 |
| ubottu | Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 07:32 |
| Addle | Ahah, I knew that would be there. hehe | 07:32 |
| mokush | Addle: could you copy-paste the a) b) c) solutions you wrote earlier? | 07:41 |
| Addle | Sure thing: | 07:41 |
| Addle | "<yofel> so the solutions are: a) replace qt5-default with qt4-default b) install qdbus-qt5 c) install kde-workspace-bin >= 4:4.11.6-0ubuntu3" | 07:41 |
| mokush | Addle: thanks! | 07:42 |
| Addle | mokush: np! | 07:42 |
| mokush | so I installed the cgmanager and qdbus-qt5 packages, an d everything seems to work now | 07:42 |
| mokush | thanks guys! | 07:42 |
| valorie | mokush: in the new kernel? | 07:43 |
| Addle | mokush: Great! np :) | 07:44 |
| mokush | valorie: what do you mean? | 07:45 |
| alket | is kubuntu 14 stable enough ? | 07:45 |
| valorie | mokush: you added those three packages to the newest Trusty updates, including the new kernel? | 07:46 |
| Addle | alket: Probably be so soonish, I bet, but right now there's a few issues. | 07:46 |
| mokush | valorie: I had installed 3.13 before upgrading to the 14.04 betas. but I think the beta upgrade also brought along a newer 3.13 kernel | 07:47 |
| Addle | alket: Testing is very welcome, of course, but it's beta and I'd wait a bit if you don't want to have to mess around. | 07:47 |
| alket | Addle, thank you for the info | 07:47 |
| Addle | alket: No problem :) | 07:47 |
| valorie | thanks, mokush | 07:48 |
| valorie | yes, once you get the beta and do any upgrades, you are on the dailies | 07:48 |
| valorie | !info qdbus-qt5 | 07:51 |
| ubottu | qdbus-qt5 (source: qttools-opensource-src): Qt 5 D-Bus tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.2-7ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 24 kB, installed size 108 kB | 07:51 |
| mokush | since I'm on the dailies right now, once the stable trusty gets released, will I be on the stable release? or is there anything extra I'm going to have to do? | 07:53 |
| valorie | you'll be on stable once Trusty is released | 07:53 |
| valorie | you have to do `do-release-upgrade` again to get on the daily train again | 07:54 |
| mokush | valorie: so I'll just do dist-upgrade from now on, won't have to do another release upgrade once trusty is out? | 07:56 |
| Addle | mokush: Correct | 07:56 |
| valorie | so I'm going to quit and restart into the new kernel again, and see if cgmanager, qt4-default, and qdbus-qt5 do the trick | 07:57 |
| valorie | oh, workspace-bin, himmm | 07:57 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:40 |
| trung | I got some really weird problems: if I launch an application using krunner (the Alt+F2) the application's fonts will look very ugly (doesn't seem to be affected by my settings at all). On the other hand launching that same application through a terminal works fine | 08:49 |
| === calin is now known as crucerucalin | ||
| valorie | that's really bizarre | 08:54 |
| valorie | how about trying it from konsole as well? | 08:54 |
| trung | let me try | 08:55 |
| trung | konsole works fine | 08:55 |
| trung | (earlier I used Yakuake but I think it should be the same) | 08:55 |
| valorie | trung: perhaps file a bug against krunner | 08:56 |
| valorie | although a replacement is being written | 08:57 |
| valorie | still, that's just plain odd | 08:57 |
| valorie | yakuake <3 | 08:57 |
| trung | I am installing Synapse to replace krunner at the moment | 08:57 |
| trung | some time ago I disabled Akonadi and Nepomuk since my system would pause every 30s or so | 08:58 |
| trung | Krunner hasn't worked well since | 08:58 |
| trung | newly added applications don't show up on search | 08:58 |
| trung | oh and Yakuake would be my favorite application ever if it wasn't for the fact that creating new tab doesn't keep the same directory | 08:59 |
| trung | :( | 08:59 |
| hateball | well if you disabled nepomuk, of course krunner wont work properly | 09:00 |
| trung | well I like KDE but nepomuk/akonadi would make everything unusable :/ | 09:00 |
| trung | CPU spikes too often | 09:00 |
| hateball | have you done any distro upgrades since? nepomuk is not a pig any longer | 09:00 |
| hateball | more like a... piglet :p | 09:00 |
| hateball | It used to be it reindexed everything on reboot for instance, no longer the case | 09:01 |
| trung | I remember it not being so bad some time ago, then (I don't remember when anymore) it started slowing down again and I had to give up | 09:02 |
| trung | plus I didn't feel like I was benefitting a lot from it honestly | 09:02 |
| valorie | nepomuk is on the way out anyway | 09:02 |
| valorie | turn it on, let baloo take over, and enjoy | 09:03 |
| trung | do you have the same problem with Yakuake? Where new tabs would not keep the old one's folder? | 09:04 |
| valorie | I don't want the old folder, so I don't see that as a problem | 09:05 |
| hateball | I don't use yakuake, but maybe you can set it to open the new tab in $(pwd) ? | 09:07 |
| hateball | in konsole that is: konsole --new-tab --workdir $(pwd) | 09:09 |
| hateball | if one likes tabs, that is | 09:09 |
| trung | yakuake seems to be based on konsole (I don't know how it works honestly) but they emulate the tabs in a different way from konsole | 09:10 |
| trung | there doesn't seem to be an option to do what you described | 09:12 |
| trung | but why don't you like tabs? They seem awfully useful for me | 09:12 |
| valorie | I use them occasionally | 09:14 |
| hateball | trung: I like tabs, I was just saying. If you dont, dont use --new-tab :p | 09:17 |
| hateball | my only annoyance with konsole is that it all runs as the same process, even if you open new windows | 09:18 |
| hateball | and so --new-tab will open in the first opened window, not the current one -_- | 09:18 |
| === thelionsleeps is now known as thelionroars | ||
| Anpu | hi, would be better to install Kubuntu OS on SSD and keep my /home or data disk on HDD ? | 10:22 |
| Walex | Anpu: depends entirely on what you do with one or the other. Many small files frequently accessed? SSD is better. | 10:28 |
| Walex | Anpu: and of couse on how big SSD, root partition and '/home'. | 10:29 |
| Anpu | Walex: I was thinking to install Kubuntu on SSD for additinal performance (right?) then throw my large files on HDD but I can also create on SSD /var/name folder to which I could link some dot folders from my home (.cache and similar - if this is ok, any recommendations whixh would be the best?) | 10:37 |
| Anpu | and your "many small files accesses frequently" sounds just like OS activity | 10:37 |
| hateball | If you're brave, you can use btrfs and hot relocation | 10:38 |
| Walex | Anpu: that depends what you do with the OS files. | 10:38 |
| Walex | Anpu: and whether for example you have Maildir mailboxes | 10:38 |
| Anpu | hateball: hehe it was offered earlier (and now on default) on opensuse but I wasn't really feeling safe with it, thus returned to ext4 | 10:39 |
| Anpu | Walex: right, got it. Thanks for help! | 10:39 |
| hateball | there is also the option of bcache | 10:39 |
| Anpu | actually now that I think, /tmp might be a faolder with large files sometimes | 10:40 |
| Anpu | folder* | 10:40 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 10:44 |
| Anpu | I believe I ll set everything go on SSD /home included but will mount HDD in /home/data for example. And that should do I believe | 10:46 |
| Anpu | morning BluesKaj | 10:46 |
| Walex | Anpu: that may be a sensible compromise. | 10:46 |
| BluesKaj | hi Anpu | 10:48 |
| ussher_ | Anpu: thats how I've got mine. works great. | 10:55 |
| === kubuntu is now known as goober | ||
| === goober is now known as goober12 | ||
| === calin is now known as crucerucalin | ||
| Boogcelot | Hi! | 11:12 |
| Boogcelot | I need your help! | 11:12 |
| Boogcelot | any expert on "can't read superblock" error? | 11:13 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: read 'dmesg' it will most likely tell you why. | 11:16 |
| Boogcelot | pfu | 11:18 |
| Boogcelot | device reported invalid CHS sector 0 | 11:18 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: that's rather sad. | 11:27 |
| Boogcelot | :) | 11:27 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: either the device is completely dead or it is not connected correctly. If it is not a physical device it is misconfigured. | 11:27 |
| Boogcelot | oh... | 11:27 |
| Boogcelot | so it means the hdd is damaged? | 11:28 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: it is unlikely that it is just sector 0 that is dead. | 11:28 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: who knows? too few details. | 11:28 |
| Boogcelot | I could tell you more about the error :) | 11:29 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: have a look at the outputs of 'hdparm -I /dev/...' and 'smartctl -A /dev/...' to get an idea. | 11:29 |
| Boogcelot | it's just that it's very long | 11:29 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: put it in bpaste.net | 11:29 |
| Boogcelot | so, for smartctl -A | 11:30 |
| Boogcelot | the result is | 11:30 |
| Boogcelot | Probable ATA device behind a SAT layer | 11:30 |
| Boogcelot | then I continue with smartctl -A -d ata | 11:31 |
| Boogcelot | "Read Device identity failed: permission denied" | 11:31 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: so you are hiding several crucial facts about your configuration. | 11:31 |
| Boogcelot | tell me Walex the details tha tyou need | 11:32 |
| Boogcelot | I will try my best to provide everything :D | 11:32 |
| Boogcelot | I had a NAS Iomega device which doesn't work anymore. The hard drive is from there. | 11:33 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: that looks like a dead drive, guessing wildly. BTW this is not the right channel for that, ##hardware or ##Linux are far more appropriate. | 11:34 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: also, how is your maybe-dead drive connected to your PC? | 11:34 |
| Boogcelot | directly via SATA cable | 11:34 |
| Walex | then 'smartctl -A' would not be saying that. Unless the drive is really completely dead. | 11:35 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: does it get listed by 'lsscsi' | 11:35 |
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| Boogcelot | what is Isscsi? sorry for asking... :| | 11:36 |
| Walex | Boogcelot: "lsscsi" the first letter is ell | 11:37 |
| Boogcelot | I don't get exactly what you want me to do :| | 11:39 |
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| dougl | BluesKaj, "You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. | 12:16 |
| dougl | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 12:16 |
| dougl | xserver-xorg-video-all : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau but it is not installed" is my error on dist-upgrade after I have installed nvidia drivers and I know -f will fix is but I dont want to lose my nvidia drivers so I am not sure if I have to manually uninstall xserver-xorg-video-all | 12:16 |
| BluesKaj | dougl, if the nvidia driver is working ( nouveau is the default nvidia driver) then you casn reinstall the nvidia optional driver from additional drivers if the nouveau driver becomes default...blacklisting the nouveau is an option , but then it's no longer a fall back in the additional driver breaks | 12:22 |
| BluesKaj | if the additional driver breaks, that is | 12:23 |
| dougl | so I can safely -f to fix and I would still be usining nvidia but nouveau is back up? | 12:24 |
| BluesKaj | yes | 12:24 |
| dougl | thank you my friend appreciate the help - gonna do that right now | 12:25 |
| trung_ | does anyone use Synapse launcher? How does it look for applications? | 12:45 |
| trung_ | I tried putting some .desktop files in /etc/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications but it couldn't find those | 12:46 |
| trung_ | (these do show up on KDE application menu) | 12:46 |
| trung_ | it can easily find other applications i.e. those installed via the marketplace or apt-get | 12:46 |
| === marius is now known as Guest38258 | ||
| dougl | Hey BluesKaj, thanks wasn't doing the updates until I had that issue resolved - thanks for the help... I gotta run and finnish painting my church just wanted you to feel used, abused and appreciated :) | 12:55 |
| BluesKaj | dougl, good luck with the painting :) | 12:56 |
| dougl | Thanks :0 | 12:56 |
| dougl | err :P | 12:56 |
| pramiti | I have kdelib5 dev version 4.11 installed.. can u tell how to install new version ? | 13:01 |
| pramiti | while doing cmake its gives me following error : http://pastebin.com/jHqUeQne | 13:04 |
| Raeth | test | 13:04 |
| Pici | failed | 13:05 |
| === kevin is now known as Guest32299 | ||
| === ToBeFree is now known as Guest12345 | ||
| === Guest12345 is now known as ToBeFree | ||
| Raeth | lol | 13:16 |
| pramiti | i am getting following error : please help | 13:23 |
| pramiti | i am not able to upload higher version ?? using sudo apt-get update | 13:24 |
| BluesKaj | pramiti, after updating , run sudo apt-get upgrade and make sure you have kubuntu backports enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list | 13:31 |
| pramiti | BlueKaj: wat exactly be the line in sources.list ? | 13:34 |
| pramiti | deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-backports main restricted universe multiverse | 13:34 |
| pramiti | i have this line in the file | 13:34 |
| BluesKaj | pramiti, it contains this, archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/xxxxx backports , xxxx being your OS version | 13:36 |
| Walex | pramiti: your question is way too ambiguous. | 13:36 |
| Walex | pramiti: are you trying to upgrade the version of KDE? | 13:37 |
| pramiti | Walex: i was installing kdepimlibs using cmake and it was giving me following error : it requires higher version of kdelibs5-dev | 13:38 |
| BluesKaj | now he tells us | 13:38 |
| pramiti | BluesKaj: deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-backports main restricted universe multiverse then this is the backport mentioned in source.list | 13:39 |
| Walex | pramiti: then you are a very advanced developer who understands very well how to build KDE, and we cannot be so presumptuous as to teach you how to do it. | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj | yeah thats it , but you didn't say you were compiling from source instead pramiti | 13:40 |
| pramiti | Walex: no i was doing because of to build a patch in kmail which requires kdepimlibs.. | 13:40 |
| Walex | pramiti: if you know KDE and its build system so well that you build your own backports, it is difficult to find help in this channel which is mostly for simple issues. | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | pramiti, ok well you're obviously on the right track since the backports don't have what you require, but you could have told us that first | 13:42 |
| Walex | pramiti: however if what you want is newer versions of KDE, the semi-official Kubuntu KDE PPA can give you precompiled packages. | 13:42 |
| pramiti | i was an trying to build build a patch for bugs regarding kde.. I have just started as open source contributor .. like for example this : https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=kmail | 13:43 |
| pramiti | I have kubuntu 13.01 | 13:43 |
| pramiti | 13.10 | 13:43 |
| pramiti | i just want newer version of kdelibs5-dev | 13:43 |
| Walex | pramiti: then perhaps you can discuss this on #KDE-devel. Probably they will advise you to develop against a full current version of the KDE sources. | 13:44 |
| Walex | pramiti: alternatively you can download the relevant source-deb packages, add a patch to those, and rebuild. | 13:44 |
| Walex | pramiti: alternatively you can download the relevant source-deb packages for 13.10, add a patch to those, and rebuild. | 13:44 |
| Walex | pramiti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb for example | 13:45 |
| pramiti | Walex : i want to know if i install a package of version 12.01 and try to install using installaion manager ..it says older version installed.. and if i remove older version.. it still say u have older version install | 13:46 |
| Walex | pramiti: if you are trying to mix versions from sources and from packages you are a very advanced developer capable of doing very subtle tricks and I can't help with that. | 13:47 |
| pramiti | Walex: ohh okk.. no i am totally new ... i am not sure what should i do.. | 13:47 |
| Walex | pramiti: the first thing would be to ask questions of the form "I have setuo this ... and I get this exact error message .... when I try to do ...." :-) | 13:48 |
| Walex | pramiti: but it seems that your goal is to contribute patches to KDE (you may be one of the IIT students with an assignment like that, guessing wildly). | 13:49 |
| pramiti | Walex: yes.. :) | 13:49 |
| Walex | pramiti: if your goal is to contribute patches, probably the best idea is to use the pre-packages sources debs corresponding to the distribution release you have, unpack them, rebuild them, and all will be consistent and give you no trouble, | 13:50 |
| Walex | pramiti: you first test should be to understand how to rebuild a source .deb for KDE without doing any modifications to it. | 13:50 |
| pramiti | next time ill definetly ask question properly :) | 13:50 |
| Walex | pramiti: since you would be using source .debs that have been used to build the same version binary .debs, it will all work nice. | 13:51 |
| * Walex is an optimist | 13:51 | |
| Walex | have you tried doing that 'apt-get source ....' command? | 13:52 |
| BluesKaj | uhm yeah, in best case scenario Walex ") | 13:53 |
| pramiti | Walex : umm i have done sudo pat-get update and upgrade | 13:53 |
| Walex | BluesKaj: every other alternative is far worse, and these IIT students have only 6-8 weeks to do their project | 13:53 |
| Walex | pramiti: perfect, after 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' you have the lastest *binary* packages. | 13:54 |
| Walex | pramiti: pramiti now please find which source package was used to build the binary package you want to enhance, and follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb | 13:55 |
| pramiti | Walex: okk :) | 13:57 |
| pramiti | thanxs 4 help :) | 13:57 |
| Walex | pramiti: people in the West have a high opinion of IIT students: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2003-09-15/ | 13:58 |
| Walex | BluesKaj: is there a less painful way to add a patch to a Kubuntu KDE package than that? I hope there is :-). | 13:58 |
| pramiti | ohh lol X) | 13:59 |
| Walex | pramiti: to find the source package there is a search tool here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ | 13:59 |
| Walex | pramiti: to find the source package there is a search tool here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | Walex, not sure, I don't compile/patch much. I'm a home user with no coding or pc language/software education | 14:01 |
| * Walex backports patches to .debs at work to maintain local forks | 14:02 | |
| pramiti | Walex: ohh this is nice.. can u tell me ubuntu and kubuntu have same packages version ? | 14:04 |
| pramiti | or one os more updated than the other ? | 14:04 |
| Walex | pramiti: they use almost entirely the same archives. They are just different menus of packages from the same archives. | 14:05 |
| * BluesKaj is an old windows user who discovered linux after retirement | 14:05 | |
| pramiti | Walex : ok :) | 14:05 |
| Walex | pramiti: http://search.dilbert.com/search?w=indian%20institute&method=and&isort=date&view=list | 14:07 |
| Walex | pramiti: another "package rebuild" HOWTO: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rebuilding-ubuntu-debian-linux-binary-package/ | 14:08 |
| tekkbuzz | pramiti: have you tried also apt-get dist-upgrade and/or do-release-upgrade which would bring you to the latest release. | 14:27 |
| tekkbuzz | ^^ ? | 14:28 |
| pramiti | tekkbuzz.. yes i have tried.. the latest version is 4.11.5.. and it require 4.12.. | 14:28 |
| tekkbuzz | ahh, okay, carry-on then. | 14:29 |
| BluesKaj | tekkbuzz, do-release-upgrade tries to upgrade the OS to the next official release which in 13.10 will not do anything | 14:30 |
| tekkbuzz | BluesKaj: guess I didn't follow the thread close enough :) | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | tekkbuzz, he\s compiling from source anyway since he needs a patch for kmail | 14:36 |
| Walex | pramiti: why does it require 4.12? If you are using the 4.11.5 source .debs that's not a problem. | 14:39 |
| Walex | BluesKaj: he is trying to _write_ a patch for KMail. | 14:39 |
| Walex | pramiti: also note the existance of the 4.12 backports from the PPA. | 14:39 |
| BluesKaj | Walex, ok noted | 14:40 |
| Walex | pramiti: also note that only very experienced developers would mix non-Kubuntu sources with Kubuntu binary packages. | 14:40 |
| BluesKaj | this discussion is better off in kubuntu-devel IMO | 14:41 |
| pramiti | Walex: yes i should use the backports instead.. http://www.noobslab.com/2014/01/install-kde-412-in-ubuntulinux.html | 14:43 |
| moixe | holaaa | 14:49 |
| moixe | algun español por aqui? | 14:49 |
| BluesKaj | !es | 14:49 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 14:49 |
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| pramiti | i am trying this command : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and it is giving me following error : Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct. | 14:58 |
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| guestVjGfe8 | hi | 15:11 |
| guestVjGfe8 | koi | 15:12 |
| pramiti | i am trting to install kde 12.0 backports sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and i am getting following error : Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct. | 15:21 |
| Walex | try without "backports". | 15:27 |
| pramiti | Walex : same error | 15:28 |
| JoshStrobl | Hey, anyone know why kUbuntu 14.04 Beta 2 is booting into KDE Plasma Active tablet view for me? I have guest additions installed. Anyone to manually switch out of Active? | 15:37 |
| JoshStrobl | nvm got it working | 15:45 |
| Walex | pramiti: strange. Try adding these two lines to '/etc/apt/sources.list': http://paste.ubuntu.com/7203781/ | 15:49 |
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| thor_ | anybody else get a dbus error after last update? | 17:58 |
| rohan | are people having problems with desktop effects and KDE on kubuntu 14.04? | 18:43 |
| rohan | all my desktop effects are broken | 18:43 |
| rohan | panel transparency is broken | 18:43 |
| BluesKaj | rohan, if you're using OpenGL and raster in desktop effects, you might have those problems with intel graphics, nvidia seems immune to these problems | 18:45 |
| rohan | BluesKaj: yep, intel. and effects like cover switch for window switcher is broken | 18:46 |
| rohan | wifi and networkingmanager also broken for people? | 18:46 |
| BluesKaj | not with broadcom | 18:47 |
| rohan | hm.. i think it's more a NM issue than an intel driver issue | 18:48 |
| BluesKaj | rohan, well my old desktops with nvidia graphics don't have any problems | 18:49 |
| rohan | ah, scratch that, wifi just started working after a dist-upgrade. | 18:49 |
| rohan | i have an intel-nvidia hybrid (optimus) | 18:49 |
| BluesKaj | oh that's different | 18:49 |
| BluesKaj | also rohan , 14.04 questions are best asked in #ubuntu+1 | 18:52 |
| rohan | BluesKaj: correct, but there is no one around to answer them there :) | 18:52 |
| rohan | do you know if there is a bug tracking all the intel issues? | 18:52 |
| BluesKaj | not sure | 18:54 |
| rohan | thanks, BluesKaj :) | 18:55 |
| snele | rohan: I don't have optimus system, but i have read that it works in 14.04 | 19:05 |
| snele | rohan: you have to install nvidia-prime package and latest nvidia driver from driver manager | 19:05 |
| snele | rohan: as for desktop effect you can try with resetting kwin to its defaults | 19:06 |
| rohan | snele: i have a feeling it's an intel issue that's going around | 19:06 |
| snele | rm ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc | 19:06 |
| snele | then kwin --replace | 19:07 |
| rohan | and nvidia-prime does not do power management does it? | 19:07 |
| snele | rohan: I don't know. I just read that "optimus works great" in 14.04 ;) | 19:07 |
| snele | rohan: many people have problems with desktop effects on kubuntuforums: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65055-KWin-crashes-using-OpenGL-w-kernel-3-13-0-20 | 19:09 |
| snele | with intel drivers | 19:09 |
| rohan | aha.. thanks snele | 19:09 |
| snele | workaround is to boot with older kernel | 19:09 |
| rohan | snele: why, apt-get helpfully autoremoved that kernel for me! | 19:11 |
| Addle | I had hit this bug with intel, where the window contents were black: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1283820 Had to disable compositing. | 19:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1283820 in mesa (Ubuntu) "content of windows (and desktop) appear black when using kwin, but not with kwin_gles - intel graphics" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:48 |
| pramiti | I am trying to install backports using sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa and i am getting following error : Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct. | 20:20 |
| pramiti | please help | 20:21 |
| Addle | pramiti: Should it not then be: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports ? | 20:26 |
| pramiti | Addle: ohh yes i have tried this command only.. same error | 20:27 |
| Addle | I can definitely say that the PPA line I just gave you is correct. What version of the distro are you on? | 20:28 |
| pramiti | kubuntu 13.10 | 20:29 |
| pramiti | yes i too think its correct. there is some other problem | 20:29 |
| pramiti | I have widows 8 and kubuntu 13.10 | 20:30 |
| Addle | Indeed. Very strange. | 20:30 |
| pramiti | Addle : i tried this solution: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/fix-cannot-add-ppa-please-check-that.html | 20:30 |
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| Addle | I assume you can, say, ping www.google.com ? | 20:30 |
| pramiti | but this doesnt work.. | 20:30 |
| pramiti | Addle: yes net is working properly | 20:30 |
| Addle | pramiti: Can you 'ping keyserver.ubuntu.com' ? | 20:33 |
| pramiti | Addle: no | 20:34 |
| Addle | pramiti: Ahah, that might be the issue... | 20:34 |
| DLP2 | how's it going people? | 20:34 |
| Addle | The key should be fetched from http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A | 20:35 |
| Addle | DLP2: Good, you? | 20:35 |
| DLP2 | awesome! | 20:35 |
| DLP2 | lovin' linux | 20:35 |
| Addle | Excellent XD | 20:35 |
| pramiti | Addle: i tried wget www.google.com its working but ping google.com is not working | 20:35 |
| Addle | If you can get that key at the URL I gave and put it in a file, you should be able to add it manually, but if you can't get to the keyserver, that's the real problem to be solved. | 20:36 |
| pramiti | it shows unknown host while ping. but wget www,google.com shows no problem | 20:36 |
| pramiti | Addle: I should store the file at ? | 20:37 |
| pramiti | Addle: i am able to store using wget keyserver.ubuntu.com | 20:38 |
| pramiti | but it stores the html page | 20:38 |
| Addle | pramiti: Ok, looking for the command to add it manually. Been a while :) | 20:38 |
| Addle | pramiti: Yeah, you need to wget http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A | 20:38 |
| Addle | Ahah | 20:39 |
| Addle | Let's say you saved the key as key.txt, then do: sudo apt-key add ./key.txt | 20:40 |
| Addle | key.txt in your current directory, of course, probably your home dir. | 20:40 |
| Addle | You can then add these lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list: | 20:41 |
| Addle | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu saucy main | 20:41 |
| Addle | deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu saucy main | 20:41 |
| pramiti | Addle: shpuld it be ~/.key.txt ? | 20:43 |
| Addle | pramiti: I'd suggest ~/key.txt | 20:43 |
| Addle | pramiti: But either will work. You can just delete the key file when you've done importing it. | 20:44 |
| pramiti | Addle: it says sudo apt-key add ./key.txt gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. | 20:45 |
| pramiti | i mean when i did sudo command its says no valid OpenPGP found | 20:45 |
| Addle | If you saved it as ~/key.txt, then also do sudo apt-key add ~/key.txt | 20:46 |
| Addle | Also take a look in the file and make sure it's a proper key. Should start with the line "-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----" | 20:46 |
| pramiti | Addle: okk done.. then nest step is to add repositories ? | 20:47 |
| Addle | pramiti: Yep | 20:47 |
| pramiti | Addle: someone told me before never to make changes in source.list. should i still do ? | 20:47 |
| Addle | Just add the two lines I gave into your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Probably at the end. | 20:47 |
| Addle | Yeah, just don't mess up other lines. And always a good idea to make a backup first. | 20:48 |
| Addle | You can also probably add it using synaptic or other such package manager, if you want. | 20:48 |
| Addle | Normally, you don't have to do that, since add-apt-repository does it. | 20:50 |
| pramiti | Addle: still the same error :( | 20:52 |
| Addle | Alas, I have company and I have to bail on this one, for now. | 20:53 |
| Addle | Perhaps someone else will kick in and figure out what the heck is going on with your system. :) | 20:53 |
| pramiti | Addle: ok :( | 20:53 |
| pramiti | okk.. | 20:55 |
| pramiti | I am trying to install backports using sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa and i am getting following error : Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct. | 20:55 |
| Addle | pramiti: Oh, don't add-apt-repository again. It'll just import the key (which I thought you'd done) and add the lines I gave you to your sources.list. After that, just update the package list and off you go. | 20:57 |
| pramiti | Addle: what command should i write ? sudo apt-get update ? | 20:58 |
| Addle | pramiti: Yes | 21:00 |
| OerHeks | pramiti, show us the output on paste.ubuntu.com | 21:00 |
| pramiti | OerHeks: output of which command ? | 21:01 |
| OerHeks | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 21:02 |
| pramiti | OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/kj9YUtLd for sudo apt-get update | 21:10 |
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| Guest51773 | g'day all....need help with sound first, startup issues maybe later | 22:04 |
| Guest51773 | anyone alert, or is everyone just parked? | 22:06 |
| valorie | Guest51773: what problem with sound? | 22:06 |
| valorie | it helps to state the problem clearly | 22:07 |
| Guest51773 | one of my sound cards (one I normally use) isn't even showing up | 22:07 |
| Guest51773 | sometimes neither show up as listed | 22:07 |
| valorie | which kubuntu are you running? | 22:07 |
| Guest51773 | latest lts version i believe | 22:07 |
| valorie | lts, saucy, trusty? | 22:07 |
| valorie | ah, 12.10 then | 22:08 |
| Guest51773 | yep | 22:08 |
| valorie | have you any reason to suspect that it is software rather than hardware problems? | 22:08 |
| Guest51773 | installed it around xmastime, and thought I had the video card's sound permanently depreciated, | 22:09 |
| Guest51773 | valorie: not sure, reinstalling phonon didn't work | 22:09 |
| valorie | I wouldn't imagine that would affect things one way or the other | 22:10 |
| valorie | might be time to vacuum out the box and check all the connections | 22:10 |
| Guest51773 | valorie: it was working fine this aft, then a youtube video crashed, I had to hardboot, and hasn't worked since | 22:10 |
| valorie | very suspicious that the cards appear and disappear randomly | 22:10 |
| valorie | if the cards themselves are fine, I'd look at the cables | 22:11 |
| valorie | once you verify that your hardware is good, then you can start software troubleshooting | 22:11 |
| valorie | !sound | 22:11 |
| ubottu | If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 | 22:11 |
| Guest51773 | valorie: I do think the cards are fine, yes | 22:11 |
| valorie | I've seen connectors be the problem more often | 22:12 |
| valorie | connectors/cables | 22:12 |
| Guest51773 | or rather, the on-mobo sound is fine, I don't want to use the on-video-card sound that does show up the most often | 22:12 |
| valorie | right | 22:13 |
| Guest51773 | it is the mobo-sound that the speakers are connected to, after all | 22:13 |
| valorie | you will probably find `alsamixer` and `pavucontrol` useful | 22:15 |
| valorie | both of which you'll have to install | 22:15 |
| valorie | alsamixer works in the konsole, using arrow keys and such | 22:15 |
| valorie | pavucontrol works on pulseaudio, which is where sound is controlled | 22:16 |
| Guest51773 | ,k, I just did the pacmd-->list-sinks, and only the ati-cedar card is showing up -- not the mobo-via driver I want | 22:18 |
| Guest51773 | I've used alsamixer before, not the pavulcontrol...never tried the pacmd until now | 22:19 |
| valorie | like I said, opening up your box can save you a lot of software troubleshooting time, Guest51773 | 22:19 |
| valorie | and if everything looks good, you only have scratches on your hands | 22:20 |
| Guest51773 | valorie: I know, as I built this box myself, but since there are no internal cables anyway, there's not much point in that | 22:20 |
| valorie | ok | 22:20 |
| valorie | anyway, the writers of the pages linked to you above know way more than I do | 22:21 |
| valorie | although I've worked through them before and found them helpful in restoring sound | 22:21 |
| Guest51773 | yeah, I've used them before myself for years, but they're not helping me much now, beyond what I already know | 22:22 |
| Guest51773 | e.g. aplay -l is listing only the ati-cedar device, which I already knew...the via sound isn't showing up | 22:23 |
| valorie | perhaps #solid can help more, since it seems to be a problem with detecting devices available | 22:23 |
| valorie | (kde channel) | 22:24 |
| Guest51773 | thx, i'd never heard of that channel | 22:24 |
| valorie | good luck! | 22:24 |
| Guest51773 | thank you for trying | 22:24 |
| valorie | nothing worse than crappy sound | 22:25 |
| valorie | my sympathy | 22:25 |
| Guest51773 | or none at all, heheh | 22:25 |
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