=== chalcedony is now known as chalcedony` [01:06] Anyone using 14.04? Is it frozen now so no breaking changes? [01:22] hello [01:31] testco: Well, some things broke in my latest update, so I'd say expect breakage. [01:33] Addle: this afternoon's update? that broke a lot of things [01:33] for everyone [01:33] testco: Yeah, have to agree. :) [01:34] Looks like it'll be nice, once things smooth out, though. [02:05] Can any anyone help me? on my last update I get when I try to login to Kubuntu 14.04 could not start dbus. can you call qdbus? Well I found the fix is to apt-get install qdbus-qt5 but I am running wireless, do I have to connect to a ethernet cable to get it to work? [02:35] Xeno: Was the only way I found to get internet back after that update. [02:36] Xeno: Though I bet calling wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd yourself would work. [02:37] Xeno: Well, maybe not "bet", but seems likely. :) [02:38] Sorry was out of the room [02:40] I do Ctrl + Alt + F1 to get terminal but I have no internet with wireless, I have tried apt-get update and I get errors [02:40] If you can plug it into a physical ethernet, that's the easiest way. [02:41] I thought so I would have to move my computer from the room to the living room but it's not a problem if I had to [02:42] If you don't mind getting your hands dirty, you can try using wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd directly. [02:42] Xeno: This might help if you try that: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant [02:43] Xeno: Just ignore the systemd stuff and check the Manual Configuration section. [02:43] Still, might be more expedient just to move it. :) [02:45] ok either way, I am still learning Linux but I like when I get to learn more so I might get my hands dirty on this one :-) [02:45] Xeno: It's useful knowledge, anyways. [02:46] Xeno: Ugh, you might need to use dhclient instead of dhcpcd to get an IP, though. dhcpcd isn't installed on this fresh 13.10 installation, anyways. === Golden_Dawn is now known as Dr_No === dex is now known as Guest2338 [07:05] is anybody on the latest beta? any idea why after an upgrade I did just now I can't mount any media [07:05] ntfs or anything else [07:07] mokush: Probably kdbus borked, if I were to guess. [07:08] Addle: any idea how I could duck-tape it? until updates with fixes are available? [07:08] also network manager shows that I'm not connected to any network, even if my wired connection seems to be working fine [07:08] mokush: have you filed a bug about this? [07:08] mokush: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1302348 [07:08] Launchpad bug 1302348 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "after today's Trusty updates/restart, NM will not connect to wifi" [Undecided,New] [07:09] please comment on this bug [07:09] valorie: not yet, it just happened 2 minutes ago after I did the dist-upgrade [07:09] I'll try to mount my phone [07:09] btw, the error dolphin reports when trying to mount is 'An error occurred while accessing 'drive', the system responded: An unspecified error has occurred: Not authorized to perform operation' [07:09] that's helpful [07:10] mokush: I shouldn't have closed the info I had found. Looking for it... [07:10] btw: #ubuntu+1 for Trusty [07:12] mokush: Search for qdbus in this: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/22/%23kubuntu-devel.txt [07:12] tl;dr " so the solutions are: a) replace qt5-default with qt4-default b) install qdbus-qt5 c) install kde-workspace-bin >= 4:4.11.6-0ubuntu3" [07:12] I think PolKit also had an issue. [07:13] Here's a thread on it: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65005-quot-Could-not-start-d-bus-Can-you-call-qdbus-quot [07:14] About the PolKit issue: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65082-systemd-update-screwed-up-policy-kit-network-manager-and-muon-qapt [07:15] Hm, not sure that last one is relevant. That's for trusty-proposed. [07:15] !info cgmanager [07:15] Package cgmanager does not exist in saucy [07:16] Does seem to be in trusty: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/cgmanager [07:17] Just not sure about the systemd thing being in trusty proper. [07:18] Wow: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/systemd-services [07:19] Didn't think systemd would be in this release. Doubt it would be the default init for trusty. [07:19] well, cgmanager is now installed [07:19] we'll see if it helps [07:20] systemd isn't installed on my system according to apt-cache policy though === roberto is now known as Guest37648 [07:22] Yeah, I guess it's there for people to experiment with. [07:22] Addle: 'systemd' isn't in this release, the package is a shim only. [07:23] Unit193: Oh, that makes sense. Thanks! [07:23] Figured that was a little quick, as integrations go. :) [07:25] bonjour !! [07:25] Bonjour, alex____ :) [07:26] je decouvre ! :) [07:29] *découvre ;) [07:30] Behold my language character set switching skillz! === thelionroars is now known as thelionsleeps [07:30] oui je vien de découvrir ce site [07:32] C'est une bonne place, mais surtout conduit en englais. [07:32] There's a french channel, right? At least for ubuntu? [07:32] !fr [07:32] Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [07:32] Ahah, I knew that would be there. hehe [07:41] Addle: could you copy-paste the a) b) c) solutions you wrote earlier? [07:41] Sure thing: [07:41] " so the solutions are: a) replace qt5-default with qt4-default b) install qdbus-qt5 c) install kde-workspace-bin >= 4:4.11.6-0ubuntu3" [07:42] Addle: thanks! [07:42] mokush: np! [07:42] so I installed the cgmanager and qdbus-qt5 packages, an d everything seems to work now [07:42] thanks guys! [07:43] mokush: in the new kernel? [07:44] mokush: Great! np :) [07:45] valorie: what do you mean? [07:45] is kubuntu 14 stable enough ? [07:46] mokush: you added those three packages to the newest Trusty updates, including the new kernel? [07:46] alket: Probably be so soonish, I bet, but right now there's a few issues. [07:47] valorie: I had installed 3.13 before upgrading to the 14.04 betas. but I think the beta upgrade also brought along a newer 3.13 kernel [07:47] alket: Testing is very welcome, of course, but it's beta and I'd wait a bit if you don't want to have to mess around. [07:47] Addle, thank you for the info [07:47] alket: No problem :) [07:48] thanks, mokush [07:48] yes, once you get the beta and do any upgrades, you are on the dailies [07:51] !info qdbus-qt5 [07:51] qdbus-qt5 (source: qttools-opensource-src): Qt 5 D-Bus tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.2-7ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 24 kB, installed size 108 kB [07:53] since I'm on the dailies right now, once the stable trusty gets released, will I be on the stable release? or is there anything extra I'm going to have to do? [07:53] you'll be on stable once Trusty is released [07:54] you have to do `do-release-upgrade` again to get on the daily train again [07:56] valorie: so I'll just do dist-upgrade from now on, won't have to do another release upgrade once trusty is out? [07:56] mokush: Correct [07:57] so I'm going to quit and restart into the new kernel again, and see if cgmanager, qt4-default, and qdbus-qt5 do the trick [07:57] oh, workspace-bin, himmm [08:40] Good morning. [08:49] I got some really weird problems: if I launch an application using krunner (the Alt+F2) the application's fonts will look very ugly (doesn't seem to be affected by my settings at all). On the other hand launching that same application through a terminal works fine === calin is now known as crucerucalin [08:54] that's really bizarre [08:54] how about trying it from konsole as well? [08:55] let me try [08:55] konsole works fine [08:55] (earlier I used Yakuake but I think it should be the same) [08:56] trung: perhaps file a bug against krunner [08:57] although a replacement is being written [08:57] still, that's just plain odd [08:57] yakuake <3 [08:57] I am installing Synapse to replace krunner at the moment [08:58] some time ago I disabled Akonadi and Nepomuk since my system would pause every 30s or so [08:58] Krunner hasn't worked well since [08:58] newly added applications don't show up on search [08:59] oh and Yakuake would be my favorite application ever if it wasn't for the fact that creating new tab doesn't keep the same directory [08:59] :( [09:00] well if you disabled nepomuk, of course krunner wont work properly [09:00] well I like KDE but nepomuk/akonadi would make everything unusable :/ [09:00] CPU spikes too often [09:00] have you done any distro upgrades since? nepomuk is not a pig any longer [09:00] more like a... piglet :p [09:01] It used to be it reindexed everything on reboot for instance, no longer the case [09:02] I remember it not being so bad some time ago, then (I don't remember when anymore) it started slowing down again and I had to give up [09:02] plus I didn't feel like I was benefitting a lot from it honestly [09:02] nepomuk is on the way out anyway [09:03] turn it on, let baloo take over, and enjoy [09:04] do you have the same problem with Yakuake? Where new tabs would not keep the old one's folder? [09:05] I don't want the old folder, so I don't see that as a problem [09:07] I don't use yakuake, but maybe you can set it to open the new tab in $(pwd) ? [09:09] in konsole that is: konsole --new-tab --workdir $(pwd) [09:09] if one likes tabs, that is [09:10] yakuake seems to be based on konsole (I don't know how it works honestly) but they emulate the tabs in a different way from konsole [09:12] there doesn't seem to be an option to do what you described [09:12] but why don't you like tabs? They seem awfully useful for me [09:14] I use them occasionally [09:17] trung: I like tabs, I was just saying. If you dont, dont use --new-tab :p [09:18] my only annoyance with konsole is that it all runs as the same process, even if you open new windows [09:18] and so --new-tab will open in the first opened window, not the current one -_- === thelionsleeps is now known as thelionroars [10:22] hi, would be better to install Kubuntu OS on SSD and keep my /home or data disk on HDD ? [10:28] Anpu: depends entirely on what you do with one or the other. Many small files frequently accessed? SSD is better. [10:29] Anpu: and of couse on how big SSD, root partition and '/home'. [10:37] Walex: I was thinking to install Kubuntu on SSD for additinal performance (right?) then throw my large files on HDD but I can also create on SSD /var/name folder to which I could link some dot folders from my home (.cache and similar - if this is ok, any recommendations whixh would be the best?) [10:37] and your "many small files accesses frequently" sounds just like OS activity [10:38] If you're brave, you can use btrfs and hot relocation [10:38] Anpu: that depends what you do with the OS files. [10:38] Anpu: and whether for example you have Maildir mailboxes [10:39] hateball: hehe it was offered earlier (and now on default) on opensuse but I wasn't really feeling safe with it, thus returned to ext4 [10:39] Walex: right, got it. Thanks for help! [10:39] there is also the option of bcache [10:40] actually now that I think, /tmp might be a faolder with large files sometimes [10:40] folder* [10:44] 'Morning folks [10:46] I believe I ll set everything go on SSD /home included but will mount HDD in /home/data for example. And that should do I believe [10:46] morning BluesKaj [10:46] Anpu: that may be a sensible compromise. [10:48] hi Anpu [10:55] Anpu: thats how I've got mine. works great. === kubuntu is now known as goober === goober is now known as goober12 === calin is now known as crucerucalin [11:12] Hi! [11:12] I need your help! [11:13] any expert on "can't read superblock" error? [11:16] Boogcelot: read 'dmesg' it will most likely tell you why. [11:18] pfu [11:18] device reported invalid CHS sector 0 [11:27] Boogcelot: that's rather sad. [11:27] :) [11:27] Boogcelot: either the device is completely dead or it is not connected correctly. If it is not a physical device it is misconfigured. [11:27] oh... [11:28] so it means the hdd is damaged? [11:28] Boogcelot: it is unlikely that it is just sector 0 that is dead. [11:28] Boogcelot: who knows? too few details. [11:29] I could tell you more about the error :) [11:29] Boogcelot: have a look at the outputs of 'hdparm -I /dev/...' and 'smartctl -A /dev/...' to get an idea. [11:29] it's just that it's very long [11:29] Boogcelot: put it in bpaste.net [11:30] so, for smartctl -A [11:30] the result is [11:30] Probable ATA device behind a SAT layer [11:31] then I continue with smartctl -A -d ata [11:31] "Read Device identity failed: permission denied" [11:31] Boogcelot: so you are hiding several crucial facts about your configuration. [11:32] tell me Walex the details tha tyou need [11:32] I will try my best to provide everything :D [11:33] I had a NAS Iomega device which doesn't work anymore. The hard drive is from there. [11:34] Boogcelot: that looks like a dead drive, guessing wildly. BTW this is not the right channel for that, ##hardware or ##Linux are far more appropriate. [11:34] Boogcelot: also, how is your maybe-dead drive connected to your PC? [11:34] directly via SATA cable [11:35] then 'smartctl -A' would not be saying that. Unless the drive is really completely dead. [11:35] Boogcelot: does it get listed by 'lsscsi' === artao is now known as artao_SLEEP [11:36] what is Isscsi? sorry for asking... :| [11:37] Boogcelot: "lsscsi" the first letter is ell [11:39] I don't get exactly what you want me to do :| === soee_ is now known as soee [12:16] BluesKaj, "You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. [12:16] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [12:16] xserver-xorg-video-all : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau but it is not installed" is my error on dist-upgrade after I have installed nvidia drivers and I know -f will fix is but I dont want to lose my nvidia drivers so I am not sure if I have to manually uninstall xserver-xorg-video-all [12:22] dougl, if the nvidia driver is working ( nouveau is the default nvidia driver) then you casn reinstall the nvidia optional driver from additional drivers if the nouveau driver becomes default...blacklisting the nouveau is an option , but then it's no longer a fall back in the additional driver breaks [12:23] if the additional driver breaks, that is [12:24] so I can safely -f to fix and I would still be usining nvidia but nouveau is back up? [12:24] yes [12:25] thank you my friend appreciate the help - gonna do that right now [12:45] does anyone use Synapse launcher? How does it look for applications? [12:46] I tried putting some .desktop files in /etc/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications but it couldn't find those [12:46] (these do show up on KDE application menu) [12:46] it can easily find other applications i.e. those installed via the marketplace or apt-get === marius is now known as Guest38258 [12:55] Hey BluesKaj, thanks wasn't doing the updates until I had that issue resolved - thanks for the help... I gotta run and finnish painting my church just wanted you to feel used, abused and appreciated :) [12:56] dougl, good luck with the painting :) [12:56] Thanks :0 [12:56] err :P [13:01] I have kdelib5 dev version 4.11 installed.. can u tell how to install new version ? [13:04] while doing cmake its gives me following error : http://pastebin.com/jHqUeQne [13:04] test [13:05] failed === kevin is now known as Guest32299 === ToBeFree is now known as Guest12345 === Guest12345 is now known as ToBeFree [13:16] lol [13:23] i am getting following error : please help [13:24] i am not able to upload higher version ?? using sudo apt-get update [13:31] pramiti, after updating , run sudo apt-get upgrade and make sure you have kubuntu backports enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list [13:34] BlueKaj: wat exactly be the line in sources.list ? [13:34] deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-backports main restricted universe multiverse [13:34] i have this line in the file [13:36] pramiti, it contains this, archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/xxxxx backports , xxxx being your OS version [13:36] pramiti: your question is way too ambiguous. [13:37] pramiti: are you trying to upgrade the version of KDE? [13:38] Walex: i was installing kdepimlibs using cmake and it was giving me following error : it requires higher version of kdelibs5-dev [13:38] now he tells us [13:39] BluesKaj: deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-backports main restricted universe multiverse then this is the backport mentioned in source.list [13:39] pramiti: then you are a very advanced developer who understands very well how to build KDE, and we cannot be so presumptuous as to teach you how to do it. [13:40] yeah thats it , but you didn't say you were compiling from source instead pramiti [13:40] Walex: no i was doing because of to build a patch in kmail which requires kdepimlibs.. [13:41] pramiti: if you know KDE and its build system so well that you build your own backports, it is difficult to find help in this channel which is mostly for simple issues. [13:42] pramiti, ok well you're obviously on the right track since the backports don't have what you require, but you could have told us that first [13:42] pramiti: however if what you want is newer versions of KDE, the semi-official Kubuntu KDE PPA can give you precompiled packages. [13:43] i was an trying to build build a patch for bugs regarding kde.. I have just started as open source contributor .. like for example this : https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=kmail [13:43] I have kubuntu 13.01 [13:43] 13.10 [13:43] i just want newer version of kdelibs5-dev [13:44] pramiti: then perhaps you can discuss this on #KDE-devel. Probably they will advise you to develop against a full current version of the KDE sources. [13:44] pramiti: alternatively you can download the relevant source-deb packages, add a patch to those, and rebuild. [13:44] pramiti: alternatively you can download the relevant source-deb packages for 13.10, add a patch to those, and rebuild. [13:45] pramiti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb for example [13:46] Walex : i want to know if i install a package of version 12.01 and try to install using installaion manager ..it says older version installed.. and if i remove older version.. it still say u have older version install [13:47] pramiti: if you are trying to mix versions from sources and from packages you are a very advanced developer capable of doing very subtle tricks and I can't help with that. [13:47] Walex: ohh okk.. no i am totally new ... i am not sure what should i do.. [13:48] pramiti: the first thing would be to ask questions of the form "I have setuo this ... and I get this exact error message .... when I try to do ...." :-) [13:49] pramiti: but it seems that your goal is to contribute patches to KDE (you may be one of the IIT students with an assignment like that, guessing wildly). [13:49] Walex: yes.. :) [13:50] pramiti: if your goal is to contribute patches, probably the best idea is to use the pre-packages sources debs corresponding to the distribution release you have, unpack them, rebuild them, and all will be consistent and give you no trouble, [13:50] pramiti: you first test should be to understand how to rebuild a source .deb for KDE without doing any modifications to it. [13:50] next time ill definetly ask question properly :) [13:51] pramiti: since you would be using source .debs that have been used to build the same version binary .debs, it will all work nice. [13:51] * Walex is an optimist [13:52] have you tried doing that 'apt-get source ....' command? [13:53] uhm yeah, in best case scenario Walex ") [13:53] Walex : umm i have done sudo pat-get update and upgrade [13:53] BluesKaj: every other alternative is far worse, and these IIT students have only 6-8 weeks to do their project [13:54] pramiti: perfect, after 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' you have the lastest *binary* packages. [13:55] pramiti: pramiti now please find which source package was used to build the binary package you want to enhance, and follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb [13:57] Walex: okk :) [13:57] thanxs 4 help :) [13:58] pramiti: people in the West have a high opinion of IIT students: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2003-09-15/ [13:58] BluesKaj: is there a less painful way to add a patch to a Kubuntu KDE package than that? I hope there is :-). [13:59] ohh lol X) [13:59] pramiti: to find the source package there is a search tool here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [13:59] pramiti: to find the source package there is a search tool here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [14:01] Walex, not sure, I don't compile/patch much. I'm a home user with no coding or pc language/software education [14:02] * Walex backports patches to .debs at work to maintain local forks [14:04] Walex: ohh this is nice.. can u tell me ubuntu and kubuntu have same packages version ? [14:04] or one os more updated than the other ? [14:05] pramiti: they use almost entirely the same archives. They are just different menus of packages from the same archives. [14:05] * BluesKaj is an old windows user who discovered linux after retirement [14:05] Walex : ok :) [14:07] pramiti: http://search.dilbert.com/search?w=indian%20institute&method=and&isort=date&view=list [14:08] pramiti: another "package rebuild" HOWTO: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rebuilding-ubuntu-debian-linux-binary-package/ [14:27] pramiti: have you tried also apt-get dist-upgrade and/or do-release-upgrade which would bring you to the latest release. [14:28] ^^ ? [14:28] tekkbuzz.. yes i have tried.. the latest version is 4.11.5.. and it require 4.12.. [14:29] ahh, okay, carry-on then. [14:30] tekkbuzz, do-release-upgrade tries to upgrade the OS to the next official release which in 13.10 will not do anything [14:34] BluesKaj: guess I didn't follow the thread close enough :) [14:36] tekkbuzz, he\s compiling from source anyway since he needs a patch for kmail [14:39] pramiti: why does it require 4.12? If you are using the 4.11.5 source .debs that's not a problem. [14:39] BluesKaj: he is trying to _write_ a patch for KMail. [14:39] pramiti: also note the existance of the 4.12 backports from the PPA. [14:40] Walex, ok noted [14:40] pramiti: also note that only very experienced developers would mix non-Kubuntu sources with Kubuntu binary packages. [14:41] this discussion is better off in kubuntu-devel IMO [14:43] Walex: yes i should use the backports instead.. http://www.noobslab.com/2014/01/install-kde-412-in-ubuntulinux.html [14:49] holaaa [14:49] algun español por aqui? [14:49] !es [14:49] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. === doda_elektroda is now known as steel_off [14:58] i am trying this command : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and it is giving me following error : Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct. === jonas_ is now known as Guest55951 === phalanx is now known as davaduke [15:11] hi [15:12] koi [15:21] i am trting to install kde 12.0 backports sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and i am getting following error : Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct. [15:27] try without "backports". [15:28] Walex : same error [15:37] Hey, anyone know why kUbuntu 14.04 Beta 2 is booting into KDE Plasma Active tablet view for me? I have guest additions installed. Anyone to manually switch out of Active? [15:45] nvm got it working [15:49] pramiti: strange. Try adding these two lines to '/etc/apt/sources.list': http://paste.ubuntu.com/7203781/ === steel_off is now known as doda_elektroda === calin is now known as crucerucalin === max__ is now known as Guest30208 === ubuntu is now known as Guest91147 === Golden_Dawn is now known as Dr_No [17:58] anybody else get a dbus error after last update? [18:43] are people having problems with desktop effects and KDE on kubuntu 14.04? [18:43] all my desktop effects are broken [18:43] panel transparency is broken [18:45] rohan, if you're using OpenGL and raster in desktop effects, you might have those problems with intel graphics, nvidia seems immune to these problems [18:46] BluesKaj: yep, intel. and effects like cover switch for window switcher is broken [18:46] wifi and networkingmanager also broken for people? [18:47] not with broadcom [18:48] hm.. i think it's more a NM issue than an intel driver issue [18:49] rohan, well my old desktops with nvidia graphics don't have any problems [18:49] ah, scratch that, wifi just started working after a dist-upgrade. [18:49] i have an intel-nvidia hybrid (optimus) [18:49] oh that's different [18:52] also rohan , 14.04 questions are best asked in #ubuntu+1 [18:52] BluesKaj: correct, but there is no one around to answer them there :) [18:52] do you know if there is a bug tracking all the intel issues? [18:54] not sure [18:55] thanks, BluesKaj :) [19:05] rohan: I don't have optimus system, but i have read that it works in 14.04 [19:05] rohan: you have to install nvidia-prime package and latest nvidia driver from driver manager [19:06] rohan: as for desktop effect you can try with resetting kwin to its defaults [19:06] snele: i have a feeling it's an intel issue that's going around [19:06] rm ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc [19:07] then kwin --replace [19:07] and nvidia-prime does not do power management does it? [19:07] rohan: I don't know. I just read that "optimus works great" in 14.04 ;) [19:09] rohan: many people have problems with desktop effects on kubuntuforums: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65055-KWin-crashes-using-OpenGL-w-kernel-3-13-0-20 [19:09] with intel drivers [19:09] aha.. thanks snele [19:09] workaround is to boot with older kernel [19:11] snele: why, apt-get helpfully autoremoved that kernel for me! [19:48] I had hit this bug with intel, where the window contents were black: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1283820 Had to disable compositing. [19:48] Launchpad bug 1283820 in mesa (Ubuntu) "content of windows (and desktop) appear black when using kwin, but not with kwin_gles - intel graphics" [Undecided,Confirmed] [20:20] I am trying to install backports using sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa and i am getting following error : Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct. [20:21] please help [20:26] pramiti: Should it not then be: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports ? [20:27] Addle: ohh yes i have tried this command only.. same error [20:28] I can definitely say that the PPA line I just gave you is correct. What version of the distro are you on? [20:29] kubuntu 13.10 [20:29] yes i too think its correct. there is some other problem [20:30] I have widows 8 and kubuntu 13.10 [20:30] Indeed. Very strange. [20:30] Addle : i tried this solution: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/fix-cannot-add-ppa-please-check-that.html === krz is now known as Guest16362 [20:30] I assume you can, say, ping www.google.com ? [20:30] but this doesnt work.. [20:30] Addle: yes net is working properly [20:33] pramiti: Can you 'ping keyserver.ubuntu.com' ? [20:34] Addle: no [20:34] pramiti: Ahah, that might be the issue... [20:34] how's it going people? [20:35] The key should be fetched from http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A [20:35] DLP2: Good, you? [20:35] awesome! [20:35] lovin' linux [20:35] Excellent XD [20:35] Addle: i tried wget www.google.com its working but ping google.com is not working [20:36] If you can get that key at the URL I gave and put it in a file, you should be able to add it manually, but if you can't get to the keyserver, that's the real problem to be solved. [20:36] it shows unknown host while ping. but wget www,google.com shows no problem [20:37] Addle: I should store the file at ? [20:38] Addle: i am able to store using wget keyserver.ubuntu.com [20:38] but it stores the html page [20:38] pramiti: Ok, looking for the command to add it manually. Been a while :) [20:38] pramiti: Yeah, you need to wget http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A [20:39] Ahah [20:40] Let's say you saved the key as key.txt, then do: sudo apt-key add ./key.txt [20:40] key.txt in your current directory, of course, probably your home dir. [20:41] You can then add these lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list: [20:41] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu saucy main [20:41] deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu saucy main [20:43] Addle: shpuld it be ~/.key.txt ? [20:43] pramiti: I'd suggest ~/key.txt [20:44] pramiti: But either will work. You can just delete the key file when you've done importing it. [20:45] Addle: it says sudo apt-key add ./key.txt gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. [20:45] i mean when i did sudo command its says no valid OpenPGP found [20:46] If you saved it as ~/key.txt, then also do sudo apt-key add ~/key.txt [20:46] Also take a look in the file and make sure it's a proper key. Should start with the line "-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----" [20:47] Addle: okk done.. then nest step is to add repositories ? [20:47] pramiti: Yep [20:47] Addle: someone told me before never to make changes in source.list. should i still do ? [20:47] Just add the two lines I gave into your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Probably at the end. [20:48] Yeah, just don't mess up other lines. And always a good idea to make a backup first. [20:48] You can also probably add it using synaptic or other such package manager, if you want. [20:50] Normally, you don't have to do that, since add-apt-repository does it. [20:52] Addle: still the same error :( [20:53] Alas, I have company and I have to bail on this one, for now. [20:53] Perhaps someone else will kick in and figure out what the heck is going on with your system. :) [20:53] Addle: ok :( [20:55] okk.. [20:55] I am trying to install backports using sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa and i am getting following error : Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct. [20:57] pramiti: Oh, don't add-apt-repository again. It'll just import the key (which I thought you'd done) and add the lines I gave you to your sources.list. After that, just update the package list and off you go. [20:58] Addle: what command should i write ? sudo apt-get update ? [21:00] pramiti: Yes [21:00] pramiti, show us the output on paste.ubuntu.com [21:01] OerHeks: output of which command ? [21:02] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [21:10] OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/kj9YUtLd for sudo apt-get update === fred_ is now known as Guest28740 === c_ is now known as Guest51773 === Guest51773 is now known as c__ === c__ is now known as Guest51773 [22:04] g'day all....need help with sound first, startup issues maybe later [22:06] anyone alert, or is everyone just parked? [22:06] Guest51773: what problem with sound? [22:07] it helps to state the problem clearly [22:07] one of my sound cards (one I normally use) isn't even showing up [22:07] sometimes neither show up as listed [22:07] which kubuntu are you running? [22:07] latest lts version i believe [22:07] lts, saucy, trusty? [22:08] ah, 12.10 then [22:08] yep [22:08] have you any reason to suspect that it is software rather than hardware problems? [22:09] installed it around xmastime, and thought I had the video card's sound permanently depreciated, [22:09] valorie: not sure, reinstalling phonon didn't work [22:10] I wouldn't imagine that would affect things one way or the other [22:10] might be time to vacuum out the box and check all the connections [22:10] valorie: it was working fine this aft, then a youtube video crashed, I had to hardboot, and hasn't worked since [22:10] very suspicious that the cards appear and disappear randomly [22:11] if the cards themselves are fine, I'd look at the cables [22:11] once you verify that your hardware is good, then you can start software troubleshooting [22:11] !sound [22:11] If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [22:11] valorie: I do think the cards are fine, yes [22:12] I've seen connectors be the problem more often [22:12] connectors/cables [22:12] or rather, the on-mobo sound is fine, I don't want to use the on-video-card sound that does show up the most often [22:13] right [22:13] it is the mobo-sound that the speakers are connected to, after all [22:15] you will probably find `alsamixer` and `pavucontrol` useful [22:15] both of which you'll have to install [22:15] alsamixer works in the konsole, using arrow keys and such [22:16] pavucontrol works on pulseaudio, which is where sound is controlled [22:18] ,k, I just did the pacmd-->list-sinks, and only the ati-cedar card is showing up -- not the mobo-via driver I want [22:19] I've used alsamixer before, not the pavulcontrol...never tried the pacmd until now [22:19] like I said, opening up your box can save you a lot of software troubleshooting time, Guest51773 [22:20] and if everything looks good, you only have scratches on your hands [22:20] valorie: I know, as I built this box myself, but since there are no internal cables anyway, there's not much point in that [22:20] ok [22:21] anyway, the writers of the pages linked to you above know way more than I do [22:21] although I've worked through them before and found them helpful in restoring sound [22:22] yeah, I've used them before myself for years, but they're not helping me much now, beyond what I already know [22:23] e.g. aplay -l is listing only the ati-cedar device, which I already knew...the via sound isn't showing up [22:23] perhaps #solid can help more, since it seems to be a problem with detecting devices available [22:24] (kde channel) [22:24] thx, i'd never heard of that channel [22:24] good luck! [22:24] thank you for trying [22:25] nothing worse than crappy sound [22:25] my sympathy [22:25] or none at all, heheh === SoerenHolm is now known as SorenHolm === artao_SLEEP is now known as artao