[00:00] <shawnbon206> you have to install the desktop kernel and a DE
[00:00] <shawnbon206> but, why nit just buy a blank DVD-r?
[00:00] <crc32> what is DE?
[00:00] <shawnbon206> s/nit/not
[00:01] <shawnbon206> desktop enviroment
[00:01] <crc32> so installing ubuntu-desktop is a useless package?
[00:01] <shawnbon206> i would have used tasksel
[00:02] <crc32> because I had a bunch of DVDs but some one jacked them. I'm still here at work.
[00:02] <shawnbon206> thumb drive?
[00:02] <crc32> no I dont.
[00:03] <crc32> gdm says syntax error 79: /etc/init.d/gdm: Systax Error "fi" unexpected (expecting "}")
[00:04] <shawnbon206> can you paste the contents of that file to hastebin.com ?
[00:04] <gabr13l> anyone know how to fix compiz in the final beta? my panel keeps disappearing when I switch desktops :(
[00:05] <crc32> cant get to a GUI to cut and paste. Going from one machine to another.
[00:05] <crc32> trying hold on
[00:05] <crc32> pfft mouse doesnt cut or paste either
[00:07] <crc32> its in the gen_config() function though
[00:08] <Beldar> crc32, a black screen and blinking cursor is common in graphic drivers needed, try the nomodeset boot shown in the bots link.
[00:09] <shawnbon206> https://gist.github.com/cyrus-and/4013343 heres a way to easily pipe stuff to pastebin
[00:10] <Beldar> gabr13l, Have you modified the desktop?
[00:12] <shawnbon206> oh i guess ubuntu has a package "" pastebinit "" in its repo
[00:12] <gabr13l> Beldar, no I really havent modified any thing... I just googled and installed ccsm and enabled the application switche... gonna try that unless you got a better idea?
[00:13] <shawnbon206> it does the same thing.  you could:::  apt-get install pastebinit -y && cat /etc/init.d/gdm | pastebinit
[00:13] <Beldar> gabr13l, Fresh install? was it like this from the start?
[00:14] <gabr13l> Beldar, yes fresh install ... updated software and nvidia-current
[00:14] <crc32> http://pastebin.com/index?e=2
[00:14] <Beldar> gabr13l, Might try a reset   http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html    a reboot is needed after.
[00:14] <gabr13l> ok... will try this, ty
[00:15] <shawnbon206> crc32 the url got cut short
[00:15] <crc32> yea thats what comes bck from the command line.
[00:16] <Beldar> crc32, check your paste says removed here.
[00:16] <crc32> i dont think the script is pasting.
[00:17] <shawnbon206> thats pastebinit?
[00:17] <crc32> it says loading https://pastebin.com/index.php?e=2
[00:17] <crc32> it says loading #https://pastebin.com/index.php?e=2
[00:18] <shawnbon206> oh maybe its broken. well you could just use scp to get the file to another machine:/
[00:18] <shawnbon206> or ssh in and copy it from the stout
[00:19] <Beldar> crc32, You might try another paste site, nothing here. Have you gotten to reading that link and making a nomodeset boot?
[00:20] <crc32> wget http://utils.rackexp.org/fail.txt
[00:20] <nylar4> Hello.  Anyone have any issues on the latest update?  14.04 64 and lost network manager and sound.  nm-applet won't load as well.
[00:20]  * shawnbon206 gives up
[00:23] <crc32> the scripts broken. http://utils.rackexp.org/gdm
[00:23] <Beldar> crc32, This is out of my area of knowledge, but I found this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2018991
[00:24] <Beldar> yeah the user uses a live disc to replace it, but it seems you may not have that.
[00:26] <crc32> is there a dpkg command to configure X11?
[00:27] <crc32> wow. So /etc/init.f/lightdm works. /etc/init.d/gdm is borke
[00:29] <Beldar> crc32, You working now with lightdm?
[00:30] <crc32> yea. But I'm wondering whats the difference in the migration from ubuntu-server to ubuntu-desktop. Like did some other script write /etc/init.d/gdm thats different from the desktop install disk?
[00:32] <crc32> also some "report a problem" window keeps popping up. But I can't see what its complaining about.
[00:32] <Beldar> crc32, the ubuntu desktop I think defaults to lightdm, you ran gdm, as well, just a guess. I'm not up on what all gets installed with those commands other than the de's
[00:33] <crc32> when I installed gdm an option poped up asking me to use "gdm" or "lightdm" so I said gdm.
[00:33] <crc32> then the script gave the Expected "}" where it found a fi
[00:34] <Beldar> crc32, Yeah, I have had one work one not, never looked to why, lightdm always works here.
[00:35] <crc32> http://pastebin.com/kttPDgT4
[00:35] <crc32> no I get these
[00:36] <crc32> now I get these.
[00:37] <Beldar> You will need another who can help, I rarely read logs, and have rarely had a problem. I know mainly what I have had to do, or learned from helping and lurking.
[00:38] <crc32> its cool. I think the start up scripts aren't working from the package. When is 14.04 being released. This seems kind of buggy.
[00:38] <Beldar> 4/14 or so
[00:41] <crc32> fo
[00:43] <Beldar> Popups are not uncommon  apport is the crash reporter, I remove it often, it had some problems at one point reporting often.
[01:25] <johnjohn101>  less than two weeks!!
[02:00] <GZA-Genius> Forgive me for the dumb question, but the thing thats attached to my neck isn't working correctly today. I am taking a init.d script that was written for SUSE and modifying it for use on Ubuntu 14.04, There are a few things confusing me at the moment all regarding LSB info. This is what I am starting out with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7200564/ 1st Question: Now from what I understand run-levels 3 and 5 on Ubuntu are unused but are treated a
[02:08] <Fudge> anyone know how to get workspaces in gnome-shell two collums two rows? I can only get vertical workspaces
[02:16] <GZA-Genius> Fudge: For Ubuntu-Gnome?
[02:16] <GZA-Genius> Fudge: 14.04?
[02:16] <Fudge> GZA-Genius:  sorry, yes
[02:17] <Fudge> I have looked through dconf-editor and set 4 workspaces, trying 6 but still only vertical view
[02:18] <trism> Fudge: might need an extension, based on http://askubuntu.com/questions/116801/is-there-a-way-to-get-a-workspace-grid-in-gnome-3-x (if that's what you are looking for)
[02:18] <GZA-Genius> Fudge: I dont have gnome-desktop installed, I know in unity System Settings > Appearance > Behavior
[02:18] <Fudge> GZA-Genius:  yes unity extends that functionality where as gnome doesnt
[02:19] <GZA-Genius> Fudge: but im guessing you knew that and even if u didnt it dont do you any good
[02:19] <Fudge> trism:  thanks, that introduces another problem with gnome extensions someone may be able to help. Is the default way to enable or install an i extension to click or slide the on button on the webpage?
[02:20] <Fudge> my problems is I am an orca user, i.e I am blind and the on/off elements on extensions.gnome.org arent a link and I dont know if there are other ways to simply enable them without checking them out of git etc
[02:28] <trism> Fudge: it doesn't let you activate the switch?
[02:30] <GZA-Genius> So is UbuntuOne being abandoned ?
[02:31] <Fudge> trism:  as I am not really using the mouse I arrow to onoff and push space, or enter on it and nothing happens. I fmy lady clicks on it for me I get the prompt to install
[03:04] <Fudge>   I figured out the extensions< I have to simulate a click and drag on the off button the click to the on position
[03:05] <Mercury> So, I just did updates a few hours ago, and now my system won't boot.
[03:05] <Mercury> Ubuntu-Gnome, 14.04, the login screen never comes up, gdm is running in the process list but is definitely not coming up.
[03:06] <Mercury> And it looks like org.freedesktop.login1 is not starting.
[03:08] <trism> Fudge: yeah I was looking at the code it is all a bunch of jquery that watches for mouseup/move/down, you might want to file a bug about that on the gnome bugzilla for easier keyboard access, cause that seems pretty bad
[03:09] <Fudge> trism:  good idea mate, thanks for the ip ill put it on my list
[03:18] <Mercury> And, found it, I need to report a bug.
[03:19] <kupo_> xubuntu 14.04 not start synaptic or software center
[03:20] <kupo_> before and after fresn installment( formatted)
[03:20] <Beldar> kupo_, let the software sources find the best server
[03:21] <kupo_> synaptic or software center wont start i mean
[03:22] <Beldar> kupo_ wont start is not much info both can be opened from a terminal, and will show errors if any are there.
[03:22] <kupo_> now says policykit.error. system bus name 1.45 org.debian.update cache
[03:23] <kupo_> when i try to start from terminal says i dont have admin priv
[03:23] <kupo_> just . this happened before. and i reinstalled and formatted. strange.
[03:23] <mvollrath> i’m getting a broken package during debootstrap, i wonder if i’d have better luck with another mirror?
[03:24] <Beldar> kupo_, Fpr admin you use sudo, and gksudo for graphic use like these two installers.
[03:24] <Beldar> For*
[03:24] <kupo_> yeah i know. synaptic just magically opened a min later
[03:24] <Beldar> and=or
[03:24] <kupo_> the thing is. i havent done anything to change. like i said. i had this issue and just did a fresh formatted installment.
[03:25] <kupo_> wont let me search for updates or anything.
[03:25] <Beldar> kupo_, what happens if you run a update in the terminal?
[03:26] <kupo_> let me check
[03:26] <Beldar> make synaptic is closed
[03:26] <Beldar> sure*
[03:26] <kupo_> update in terminal worked
[03:27] <kupo_> well got an error installing new packge. but that happene don my main computer too. which is not having the update problem
[03:28] <kupo_> well. i'll probably go back to 13.10 in a bit. this will probably be a bug for  alot shortly
[03:28] <Beldar> kupo_, do what works for yah. ;)
[03:28] <kupo_> didn't have pre-released selected beforehand either
[03:29] <Beldar> how did you download 14.04?
[03:30] <kupo_> update-manager -d
[03:30] <kupo_> same way i did on my working system
[03:31] <Beldar> kupo_, Hmm, so where does a fresh install "before and after fresn installment( formatted)" play in here if you upgraded.
[03:31] <mvollrath> JMU mirror to the rescue!
[03:32] <kupo_> because i havent downloaded or changed any settings..
[03:32] <kupo_> just upgraded via ubuntu
[03:33] <Beldar> kupo_, That does not read that way, at least for me, but thanks for answering. Be sure we understand your descriptions for best help. ;)
[03:36] <Beldar> kupo_, If you run a upgrade in the terminal do you see broken packages?
[03:37] <kupo_> nope. just ran fine. but it wouldnt let me install gksu
[03:38] <kupo_> saying i don't have permission.
[03:38] <Beldar> kupo_, sudo apt-get install gksu   gives errors?
[03:39] <kupo_> try " apt-get -f install "
[03:39] <kupo_> yes
[03:39] <Beldar> yeah try that command with sudo
[03:40] <Beldar> if gksu errors out in the terminal
[03:41] <kupo_> says locked permission denied when i tried. nothing else is opened. this is all weirdnes.s never had issue like this
[03:42] <Beldar> kupo_, try this one, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:43] <Beldar> It seems you have a install stopped while running possibly now
[03:43] <Beldar> or a broken one
[03:44] <kupo_> the command went through. what should i try next
[03:44] <Beldar> kupo_, do the -f install first
[03:46] <crBenLubar> isc-dhcp-client_4.2.4-7ubuntu10_amd64.deb: /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: 17: /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: Syntax error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then")
[03:49] <kupo_> well. i give up for now. thanks for help though
[03:49] <trism> crBenLubar: bug 1302300
[03:50] <crBenLubar> wow, that was a fast bugfix
[03:50] <crBenLubar> -16 minutes
[03:52] <Beldar> save that one for the complainers ;)
[04:00] <kupo_> ok. says bug was alreasdy reported. so that's good. will probably get a fix shortly
[04:36] <valorie> bummer, no feedback on the wireless disappearing on today's updates?
[04:37] <valorie> also: no sound in flash
[04:57] <mvollrath> awesome that was the bug in my bootstrap
[05:30] <Mercury> valorie: Hey, I'm more bothered by 1302331 then little things like no network access. :)
[05:34] <valorie> Mercury: when did you upgrade?
[05:35] <valorie> not being able to login sounds rather dire, yes
[05:36] <valorie> I would file a bug if I knew what to file it against
[05:50] <Mercury> valorie: ~5 hours ago?
[05:50] <valorie> wow, I guess I will hold off updating in the next 24 hours or so
[05:50] <Mercury> valorie: Anyhow, my system works, with the work around I mentioned in the bug report, but others might have a more interesting time.
[05:50] <valorie> one major problem at a time
[05:51] <valorie> yes, I worry about our users
[05:51] <valorie> major problems so close the release, and for a LTS
[05:51] <`Fibz> it's come a long way in a short time
[05:52] <Mercury> That's what testing is for, to find this stuff.
[05:53] <Mercury> valorie: So, kernel updates in your batch of updates today, wireless firmware updates, or network manager updates?
[05:53] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1302348
[05:53] <valorie> I noticed kernel updates
[05:53] <valorie> I've not checked back to see if there was wireless firmware or NM updates
[05:54] <valorie> I was out much of the day, and hoping to see a fix here
[05:54] <valorie> oh, well
[05:56] <Mercury> valorie: Try booting to the older kernel, it should still be in the repo one way or the other.
[05:56] <Mercury> valorie: If that doesn't work, see if you can snag one release back of NM.
[05:56] <Mercury> valorie: Probably one of those two.
[05:57] <valorie> well, now that I've filed a bug, I think I'll wait to hear from the devels
[05:57] <valorie> I didn't delete the older kernel
[05:58] <Mercury> Oh, then really easy to just boot back to it and see.
[05:58] <Mercury> Extra data never hurts anyone.
[05:58] <Mercury> (Well, alright, yes it can, but rarely in these kinds of bug reports.)
[05:59] <valorie> perhaps when I'm done with my day's work online, I will try that
[06:00]  * Mercury nods.
[06:00] <Mercury> Well, good luck.
[06:00] <valorie> and to you
[06:31] <snadge> this is going to sound really weird.. but my lower case v, in one particular font has become corrupted
[06:32] <snadge> only reason im mentioning it, is that it has also happened before
[06:32] <snadge> only clue I seem to have is this.. [366563.489739] [drm] stuck on render ring
[06:33] <snadge> its an i5-3210M
[06:45] <snadge> great.. now compiz is running like crap
[07:14] <exalt> Hello: /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: 17: /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: Syntax error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then")
[07:14] <exalt> on upgrade
[07:17] <valorie> interesting: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65082-systemd-update-screwed-up-policy-kit-network-manager-and-muon-qapt
[07:26] <exalt> valorie: i think this is affecting me
[07:26] <valorie> what, exactly?
[07:27] <valorie> systemd?
[07:27] <valorie> or the NM screwup?
[07:27] <exalt> when i upgrade i get /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: 17: /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: Syntax error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then")
[07:27] <exalt> wich is a part from isc-dhcp-client
[07:27] <exalt> wich is a part of network-manager
[07:35] <valorie> ok, restarting to check all this out
[07:42] <valorie> old kernel works ok
[07:44] <alket> Hi, I am running 14.04 fine for a week now, but todays update broke something, audio isn't working and all window effects are very slow
[07:49] <valorie> alket: audio broke for me as well
[07:49] <valorie> however, rolling back to the old kernel and all is well
[07:49] <alket> i didnt have a kernel update
[07:49] <alket> i did that yesterday and audio worked
[07:49] <valorie> interesting
[07:49] <alket> but not today
[07:49] <alket> oh maybe i didnt restart
[07:50] <valorie> heh
[07:52] <balachmar> Can anybody provide tips on resolving the isc-dhcp-client issue?
[07:53] <alket> valorie, how to rollback to previous kernel
[07:54] <balachmar> mmm, apparently there is no bugreport about that yet
[07:54] <valorie> unless you removed it already, you'll find it in grub
[07:55] <valorie> balachmar: I filed one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1302348
[07:56] <balachmar> valorie: I was thinking out loud about my own issue. Other people have had the same issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214964&p=12976785
[07:56] <valorie> although I never saw that particular error message
[07:56] <balachmar> apt-get upgrade results in a failure of isc-dhcp-client update
[07:57] <balachmar> I am not sure if they are related, because I am still connected to wifi
[07:58] <valorie> ah, ok
[07:58] <valorie> sorry for the noise then
[07:59] <valorie> heck, why are people reporting on the forum instead of launchpad?
[07:59] <valorie> that's silly
[08:01] <valorie> anyway, bbiam
[08:02] <balachmar> yep, I am reporting on launchpad now
[08:02] <balachmar> although I am a bit unsure how... Previously, I could just write a bug report. Now it seems I need to use ubuntu-bug
[08:03] <valorie> ubuntu-bug is the best
[08:03] <valorie> it will give the devels a lot of relevant reports from your machine
[08:04] <valorie> bizarre that so many people reported on the forum, and none filed bugs!
[08:04] <valorie> I suppose you can post to the forum with the bug # and ask for people to supply confirmation
[08:04] <valorie> geez
[08:06] <mbalmer> good morning. today's isc-dhcp-client package has dependy problem.  anyone else seeing this?
[08:07] <balachmar> bug reported: #1302394
[08:07] <mbalmer> I see. thanks.
[08:07] <mbalmer> also, under virtualbox, the VirtualBox additions don't work anymore.
[08:08] <valorie> thanks, balachmar
[08:08] <valorie> !bug #1302394
[08:11] <balachmar> I just confirmed it with a link to the forum. And posted on the forum with a link to launchpad
[08:11] <balachmar> I now really have to go. :)
[08:11] <valorie> thanks again
[08:13] <mbalmer> since today it does not run properly under VirtualBox/OS X.  Doesn't detect proper screen size anymore.
[08:33] <exalt> valorie: apparently there is an "isc-dhcp-client_4.2.4-7ubuntu11_amd64" which contains a fix altough my system only fetches "isc-dhcp-client_4.2.4-7ubuntu10_amd64" .... how can i get this 11 versio
[08:33] <exalt> n?
[08:41] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:43] <valorie> exalt: good question, I don't know the answer to that
[08:43] <valorie> however, I'll bet there will be feedback on the bug reports soon
[08:49] <kdebooth> Hello
[08:49] <kdebooth> Is there a known issue with the  Ubuntu kernel in the trusty Beta?
[08:50] <kdebooth> I'm trying to boot on the new kernel and it's telling me the file system is damaged
[08:50] <`Fibz> working fine over here
[08:50] <valorie> yes, there have been quite a few reported problems
[08:50] <kdebooth> So longer version of the story.. I was doing an upgrade to the beta and the computer cut off
[08:51] <kdebooth> I booted back up and it came up fine. I completed the upgrade and when i reboot it says serious issues have been found with the disk
[08:51] <valorie> maybe run fsck ?
[08:51] <kdebooth> I try to  to do a fsck and it comes back as fine (It's a install under windows so it's loop file rather than a partition)
[08:52] <valorie> oooo
[08:52] <kdebooth> I reboot and use the old kernel and it comes up fine and hence I'm here talking to you all.
[08:52] <kdebooth> Reboot under the new kernel and it tells me serious issues
[08:53] <valorie> in kubuntu, I installed qt4-default, and qdbus-qt5
[08:53] <valorie> and now all is fin with the new kernel
[08:53] <valorie> fine
[08:55] <kdebooth> What was it doing with you?
[08:56] <valorie> I couldn't connect to wifi, although NM could see wifi, I couldn't mount devices, and my soundcard wasn't found, so no sound
[08:57] <exalt> valorie: its fixed right now :)
[08:57] <valorie> cool
[08:57] <kdebooth> Not being able to boot trumps that :)
[08:57] <exalt> lets party! --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C--78OvblaA
[08:58] <valorie> kdebooth: I'm very much hoping I don't face that tomorrow
[08:58] <kdebooth> valorie: Me either
[08:58] <kdebooth> did a force fix errors fsck
[08:59] <kdebooth> Lets see what that does
[08:59] <valorie> exalt: that vid rocks!
[08:59] <valorie> omg those fur hats!
[09:00] <valorie> a wedding with only men, though?
[09:00] <valorie> so strange
[09:00] <exalt> thats jewish tradition i guess
[09:01] <exalt> i read that the wedding is seperated and in the end the man and wife go in to a room and have sex with all people waiting outside
[09:01] <valorie> right......
[09:01] <exalt> when they come out they are truely wed
[09:02] <exalt> its part of their ceremony
[09:02] <exalt> i guess its because the tohra says that having sex bonds a marriage
[09:03] <valorie> exalt: please stop
[09:03] <valorie> !family
[09:03] <valorie> !family-friendly
[09:03] <valorie> pfff
[09:03] <valorie> anyway, keep it so
[09:07] <exalt> :)
[09:16] <valorie> ok, since I'm no longer having problems, I'll part
[09:16] <valorie> thanks for the feedback and help, folks
[09:25] <kdebooth> No
[09:25] <kdebooth> Won't boot
[09:25] <kdebooth> :-(
[09:26]  * kdebooth sighs
[09:46] <kdebooth> Well this is terrible timing
[10:10] <maveas> ? My DE is broken! I don't get a login screen after updating to the latest 14.04 Ubuntu Gnome.. Others having the same problem?
[10:12] <maveas> My syslog says "Activated service 'org.freedesktop.login1' failed: Cannot launch deamon, file not found or permissions invalid.
[10:12] <Rory|work> Will 14.04 still ship without MTP support?
[10:12] <Rory|work> It's the new ipod support, like back in 2007...
[10:29] <Rory|work> Or at least, is there a way to stop the popups saying "can't mount MTP device" when my phone is turned on and plugged in? (My phone is set up to use USB mass storage, not MTP)
[10:34] <mahyarap> hi, I think I've found a bug, may I discuss it here?
[10:34] <k1l_> go ahead. maybe someone can help
[10:35] <mahyarap> well it's I think it's related to the latest update
[10:35] <mbalmer> Since today I have trouble running 14.04 inside Virtualbox on OS X.
[10:36] <mbalmer> can't insert the guest additions cdrom image.
[10:36] <mbalmer> have to mount it manually.  then, when installed, they don't work.
[10:37] <mahyarap> after this update I have lots of problem
[10:37] <mahyarap> first no network icon on the panel
[10:38] <mahyarap> second graphic performance is too low
[10:38] <mahyarap> kind of jerky
[10:39] <mahyarap> and sometime some noise on the screen
[10:41] <mahyarap> I think it's related to llvmpipe which used to be CEDAR
[10:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:47] <mahyarap> is there any developer or expert user I can talk to?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> mahyarap, just ask your question , if someone knows the answer they will reply
[10:52] <minium> is anybody else having issues during login?
[10:53] <minium> in particular, sometimes autologin fails and I have to attempt to log in 3 times.
[10:54] <k1l_> no autologin here
[10:58] <BluesKaj> minium, autologin isn't good practice
[11:04] <maveas> Regarding my previous question; An update just got released which fixed the login problem on Gnome. :-)
[11:08] <mbalmer> We have very good use for autologin + timeout.
[11:08] <mbalmer> but I just filed a "bug" for the feature
[11:19] <mbalmer> !bug #1302491
[11:20] <mbalmer> maybe should be moved to unity-greeter, instead of lightdm
[11:36] <sandGorgon> hi guys - emergency. Which skype installer do I need for 64-bit Trusty ? The ia32-libs is no longer available and I can only download multiarch skype from http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.2.0.13-1_i386.deb
[11:37] <sdasgah> Someone here?
[11:38] <qengho> sdasgah: Yes. Hope that helps.
[11:38] <sdasgah> I updated my 14.04 system about an hour ahor
[11:38] <sdasgah> ago*
[11:38] <sdasgah> after restarting it
[11:38] <sdasgah> it's all broken
[11:39] <sdasgah> something happened on the updates?
[11:39] <sdasgah> or  it's my thing?
[11:39] <sdasgah> with all broken i mena
[11:39] <sdasgah> mean*
[11:39] <sdasgah> i don't have access to network controls
[11:39] <sdasgah> compiz takes about 50% of cpu usage
[11:40] <sdasgah> dconf settings are messed up
[11:40] <BluesKaj> sdasgah, describe all broken without using the enter key after each word
[11:40] <sdasgah> i cannot shutdown the sistem
[11:40] <sdasgah> ok
[11:40] <BluesKaj> sudo reboot in the terminal
[11:41] <sdasgah> if i click on shutdown option it appears the logout menu, if i'm logged out ant i press the shutdown button it appears a broken menu with no options
[11:41] <sdasgah> i am now on my windows partition, i rebooted several times and nothing
[11:41] <qengho> sdasgah: what's your first language? I see people ask questions with that strange form, declaration-questionmark.
[11:41] <sdasgah> Spanish
[11:42] <sdasgah> I also tried booting with another kernel
[11:43] <sdasgah> it seems unity session is messed up :(
[11:43] <qengho> sdasgah: Right. If you care, "Did something happen?" sounds better.
[11:44] <sdasgah> It was something ok until i updated and rebooted
[11:44] <sdasgah> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:45] <qengho> sdasgah: I don't know of any problems, but it is possible. Open a terminal. Does dpkg complain of any package's state?
[11:45] <sdasgah> i cannot connect to Internet
[11:45] <sdasgah> it says i don't have networking control privileges
[11:45] <qengho> sdasgah: I am only asking you to run dpkg, not apt-get.
[11:45] <sdasgah> mm
[11:46] <sdasgah> ok
[11:46] <zokiDimovski> I had the same problem this morning
[11:46] <qengho> sdasgah: dpkg --configure -a
[11:46] <zokiDimovski> aptitude install cgmanager
[11:46] <sdasgah> I'm rebooting and trying, thanks for the help
[11:46] <zokiDimovski> this will fix everything
[11:46] <sdasgah> with no internet...
[11:46] <qengho> sdasgah: rebooting? why?
[11:46] <qengho> wait.
[11:46] <sdasgah> impossible
[11:47] <sdasgah> i'm on Windows right now
[11:47] <qengho> Oh.
[11:47] <sdasgah> Rebooting, back on 5 min
[11:47] <qengho> sdasgah: make note of what's in ~/.xsession-errors  after you see problems.
[11:48] <sdasgah> ok
[11:48] <qengho> sdasgah: and
[11:48] <sdasgah> ...?
[11:48] <qengho> sdasgah: from a virtual terminal, run "startx -- :3", without having logged in to display manager.
[11:49] <qengho> sdasgah: also, check output of "dmesg"
[11:49] <qengho> sdasgah: do all those.  Okay to reboot.
[11:49] <sdasgah> another thing i tried (if it helps) is unity --replace
[11:49] <sdasgah> i have lots of service errors
[11:50] <qengho> You didn't think those were important to tell us about?
[11:50] <zokiDimovski> I gues you do not read what I have wrote :)
[11:50] <qengho> What's the first?
[11:50] <zokiDimovski> you need cgmanager to be installed
[11:50] <qengho> zokiDimovski: did you see that he has no internet?
[11:50] <zokiDimovski> that is not a problem
[11:50] <qengho> Oh.
[11:50] <zokiDimovski> he can donwload the package from his windows
[11:50] <zokiDimovski> then just dpkg -i package
[11:51] <qengho> sdasgah: I'm done with advice. Reboot.
[11:52] <qengho> zokiDimovski: what's with cgmanager? Are you saying it is a dependency? Have you filed a bug report?
[11:53] <qengho> I do not have cgmanager, and yet mine works perfectly.
[11:53] <zokiDimovski> I read it this morning i kubuntuforums, it looks like dependency for sysmted-services
[11:53] <jonasrogert> Hi i have a question regarding python and pyvenv-3.4 in ubuntu 14.04, it cannot install pip. It says returned non-zero exit status. There is no pip installed but the virtualenv contains python but no pip.
[11:53] <zokiDimovski> I had all sorts of problems this morning with the latest updates. No sound. No reboot funciotns. Everything just went crazy
[11:54] <qengho> There was some systemd-related breakage in the last day or so.
[11:54] <qengho> "it cannot install pip".  Do you have an error message?  What program printed it?
[11:55] <zokiDimovski> qengho: this is the thread https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65082-systemd-update-screwed-up-policy-kit-network-manager-and-muon-qapt
[11:56] <qengho> I do not read fora.
[11:56] <Crashbit> qengho: mmm
[11:57] <Crashbit> sorry zokiDimovski
[11:58] <Crashbit> The problem with cgmanager: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cgmanager/+bug/1301544
[11:58] <Crashbit> but it is a problem only with separate /usr partition
[11:59] <zokiDimovski> Crashbit: well the system was booting without a problem
[12:00] <zokiDimovski> I had no sound, network, from KDE I couldn't power off/restart or from lightdm until I installed cgmanager
[12:00] <zokiDimovski> also the driver manager was not working
[12:01] <qengho> zokiDimovski: did you install or update cgmanager?  That bug report sounds like a package didn't work, but if you didn't have the package until then, I wouldn't think you'd notice.
[12:02] <zokiDimovski> qengho: I isntalled it. libcgmanager0 was installed but not cgmanager
[12:02] <alex____> qengho are you here?
[12:03] <qengho> alex____: yes. why?
[12:04] <Crashbit> zokiDimovski: Yes, it is true. I see it
[12:04] <alex____> i'm the one that asked before
[12:04] <alex____> i rebooted
[12:04] <alex____> i had a different name
[12:04] <qengho> alex____: ah, but it's not personal.
[12:04] <alex____> sdgah or something like that
[12:04] <alex____> ok
[12:05] <alex____> nothing solved, dpkg --configure -a didn't gave any error and the startx command neither
[12:05] <alex____> i've read part of the dmesg and didn't saw anything strange
[12:05] <qengho> alex____: okay.
[12:07] <alex____> any other idea?
[12:08] <qengho> alex____: Do you have /usr on its own partition?
[12:08] <alex____> no
[12:08] <alex____> if i put in the terminal shutdown
[12:09] <alex____> it appears the bootsplash and after that it freezes with a terminal line. It doesn't turn off
[12:09] <qengho> alex____: ideas:  1) start a guest session. Compare.  2) from a terminal, run "if-up eth0" or whatever your network interface is. Update and upgrade again.
[12:11] <alex____> I can start the guest session and the unity session seems like mine, with compiz taking CPU and messed up configs. I didn't tried the eth0 thing. I wanted to ask how to connect from the terminal, i'm searching a bit and i'll reboot again in 5 minutes
[12:13] <Crashbit> alex____: you use a wired connection ?
[12:13] <alex____> no
[12:13] <alex____> wifi
[12:13] <Crashbit> alex____: wpa or wep ?
[12:13] <alex____> WPA with PEAP and certs
[12:13] <alex____> Thawte premium server
[12:14] <Crashbit> o_O
[12:14] <alex____> it's posible to connect from terminal to it?
[12:14] <Crashbit> mm, yes, use wpa_supplicant for wpa
[12:14] <Crashbit> but for PEAP I don't know
[12:15] <alex____> WPA2 Enterprise with PEAP
[12:15] <alex____> exact dates
[12:18] <alex____> rebooting
[12:18] <alex____> thanks for all your help
[13:40] <salepetronije> My nm-applet is not working from this morning on (xfce, gnome, unity) ubuntu 14.04. Is this gnome design fault? Sorry for worst english & ignorance
[13:42] <salepetronije> I have connection, but nm-applet tell me there is no connection
[13:47] <philinux> salepetronije;~ probably an nm-applet bug. Keep updating your system
[13:48] <salepetronije> Thank you. I did not find such bug, so i ask.
[13:49] <SuperLag> Anyone here encountering an issue where you log in from the lock screen, and then use your desktop, and then have to re-auth to get to the desktop again?
[13:49] <philinux> salepetronije;~ could be your hardware . no errors here on a acer 1410
[13:50] <salepetronije> I have dual boot whith ubuntu 13.10. I dont belive it is hardware
[13:51] <philinux> salepetronije;~ try updating then do a reboot
[13:52] <salepetronije> Im not tester/geek, so i dont know to read logs etc, but i need beta for translating sofware
[13:52] <salepetronije> ok, see you
[13:52] <salepetronije> o/
[14:01] <SuperLag> Apr  4 06:29:41 wanderlust compiz: pam_ecryptfs: seteuid error
[14:01] <SuperLag> Apr  4 06:29:51 wanderlust compiz: pam_ecryptfs: seteuid error
[14:02] <SuperLag> Is compiz what handles the logins?
[14:02] <SuperLag> I'm looking through syslog to see if I can find some reason why I keep getting the login issues I have on all my 14.04 systems.
[14:03] <SuperLag> So what do you guys think about MS open-sourcing the C# compiler? A good thing? or too little, too late?
[14:11] <jtaylor> its open source now? interesting
[14:12] <jtaylor> though not that important we already have one that works
[14:13] <SuperLag> oops, thought I was in a different channel for that last post :)
[14:13] <SuperLag> jtaylor: agreed, for Linux.
[14:39] <oxsyn> Anyone have instructions how to make a uefi bootable usb drive?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> !uefi
[14:43] <BluesKaj> oxsyn,^
[14:53] <salepetronije> @philinux, i do just like you said, there was new updates (did not check what) & now after reboot nm-applet is working agean :) Thank you, you bring me luck
[15:02] <oxsyn> thanks, that worked
[15:17] <zenting> I swear I saw this somewhere.  Does anyone have the script to run to enable click to minimize from the unity launcher?  I'd rather not install compiz if I can get around it.
[15:23] <ice9> network usage is not working in system monitor!
[15:36] <philinux> zenting;~ you install compizconfig-settings-manager, compiz is already installed unity is a compiz plugin
[15:57] <asdasdasd> Hi, anyone have the prorietary AMD driver no longer working on 14.04 as of today?
[16:00] <SuperLag> asdasdasd: works for me, so far
[16:02] <asdasdasd> SuperLag: I set it back to the OSS driver under "System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers", reboot, then back to "fglrx-updates" and it installs but it is no longer being used
[16:02] <asdasdasd> SuperLag: of course I rebooted again in the end
[16:37] <minium> what's the first place to look for error messages when the screen freezes?
[16:38] <minium> Note that I was able to recover with "Ctrl+Alt+Del" and logging back in
[17:24] <houkouonchi-home> anyone know why trusty would not automatically run a fsck on / at boot when the file-system is marked 'clean with errors
[17:25] <nonuby> can anyone with a relatively fresh install of xubuntu 14.04 beta provide me with a pastebin of pstree, I've played with a number of window/desktop managers and I suspect I have a lot of baggage from unity/gnome even after going back to xubuntu-desktop/xfce
[17:32] <houkouonchi-home> hmm trusty is not fscking even when i set mount count to something low with tune2fs....
[17:41] <pietro10> Hi. A while ago I asked about some werid "language support is incomplete" warning I got from KDE - I figured out what command line was causing it:  3136 ?        S      0:02 qapt-batch --install language-pack-gnome-en thunderbird-locale-en - well that tells me what packages it wants to install; thanks anyway
[17:42] <blocky> will unity run on a core 2 duo T7250 w/ 2gb of ram and geforce 8400 gs?
[17:47] <ayuda8> when i actualy ubuntu 14.04, now i haven't got sond
[17:47] <ayuda8> sound
[17:47] <ayuda8> what happend with ub 14.04
[17:47] <ayuda8> ?
[17:50] <ayuda8> i lost all permitions in my ubuntu 14.04
[17:53] <pietro10> because #kde told me to ask here
[17:53] <pietro10> "Update Information -- KDE Daemon" wants me to install flashplugin-installer because the download of the installer failed
[17:53] <pietro10> but I removed that package
[17:53] <pietro10> how do I get KDE Daemon to stop? thanks
[17:57] <donc3> Hi!
[17:57] <donc3> after to do an upgrade the wifi indicator doesn't appear, and in the settings of wifi it says that I don't have any saved netwrok
[17:58] <donc3> but I have internet connection, could someone help me???
[18:00] <onca> when I try to install usb-imagewriter I get " apt-get install usb-imagewriter " but I know this is a program
[18:00] <onca> sorry I get "E: Unable to locate package usb-imagewriter"
[18:02] <trism> onca: it was deleted in 13.10: 'requested by ~pitti/~ogra; depends on very old APIs including hal, unmaintained, dd is a sufficient'
[18:08] <Wnt> how can I do a server install of Trusty? I can only find the desktop versions of daily images
[18:08] <Wnt> Propably there is a way to launch a server install from that but I couldn't find out how
[18:10] <trism> Wnt: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[18:10] <Wnt> trism: thank you!
[18:15] <ryan-c_> Has anyone here set up xinerama with an nvidia card on trusty? I've seen some stuff about it being broken in some cases.
[18:19] <donc3> nobody can help me???
[18:26] <pietro10> heading home, bbl
[18:34] <minium>  what's the first place to look for error messages when the screen freezes?
[18:34] <minium>  Note that I was able to recover with "Ctrl+Alt+Del" and logging back in
[18:37] <Pici> look in /var/log for recently written logfiles
[18:37] <minium> good thinking, thanks
[18:38] <minium> I have a feeling that either X crashed or the nvidia driver blew it
[18:38] <minium> in which files I'd look for each of them?
[18:38] <minium> in which files would I have to look for each of them?*
[18:43] <rohan> are people having problems with acceleration in KDE broken?
[18:43] <rohan> all my desktop effects are broken
[18:51] <ifthenelse> quit
[19:04] <donofrio> folks need help with intel 915'ish video card ring issues - it's killing my right daily driver machine - http://tinyurl.com/standingatwork2014 its the far right most machine....anyways here is the info from lshw "Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller"
[19:05] <donofrio> I've tried everything do not want to go back to xorg.conf junk (cannot believe I said that) just want this system to work as good as it can (plus its soooo slow right now in gui and tty1 believe it or not)
[19:08] <rohan> donofrio: intel driver is fucked right now
[19:09] <BluesKaj> rohan, no need for that kind of language
[19:09] <rohan> yes, i realised that right after i said it: sorry :)
[19:10] <rohan> donofrio: but yes, many people are having problems with intel: I have been degrading my acceleration to UXA for around a month now
[19:10] <rohan> check https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1282867
[19:10] <BluesKaj> mucked up would be better :)
[19:13] <donofrio> rohan, but how do I enable UAX without corrupting stock like setup?
[19:14] <donofrio> or should I just go back to 12.04
[19:14] <rohan> donofrio: well. are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[19:14] <rohan> donofrio: there are a couple of different issues
[19:14] <donofrio> stock ubuntu
[19:14] <rohan> one is graphic corruption on SNA, and the other is kwin problems on newer kernel
[19:14] <donofrio> newer kernel I'm guessing is throwing it off.....
[19:15] <donofrio> I apt-get update/upgrade/disto-upgrade daily
[19:15] <rohan> donofrio: yes, try booting the -19 kernel. people have reported it works better
[19:16] <donofrio> dump question #1 how do I switch, i noticed I was running kernel 3.5 then it 'went back' to 3.1?
[19:17] <donofrio> again keep in context this is a daily driver machine - I use all three boxes daily...really synergy is awesome
[19:17] <donofrio> dump = dumb
[19:18] <rohan> 3.5, 3.1? are you sure you're on ubuntu 14.04?
[19:19] <rohan> ubuntu 14.04 uses 3.13
[19:19] <donofrio> yes sir....I could just be "grambramaged"
[19:19] <donofrio> (-:
[19:20] <donofrio> I'm using -22 kernel
[19:21] <donofrio> argh I also run this daily apt-get autoremove/autoclean so older kernels are removed it would seem
[19:23] <donofrio> what should I apt-get install to enable -19
[19:23] <BluesKaj> donofrio, well those are the perils of running a devel OS , one has to expect setbacks and problems
[19:25] <donofrio> BluesKaj, understand, I'm used to problems just would like to know steps to downrev the kernel I guess
[19:28] <BluesKaj> donofrio, I think we should run with the latest kernels to help the devs solve those problems ...anyway that's why I do it.
[19:28] <donofrio> I agree hence why I always run most recent everything.....would like a workaround or something to get this system working at normal speed again though...
[19:29] <BluesKaj> thatr
[19:29] <BluesKaj> that's why I keep a stable version on a different partitiom
[19:30] <BluesKaj> err partition :) ...searches for glasses
[19:31] <donofrio> guess I shouldn't be running this command (root@user-OptiPlex-790:~# apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y && apt-get upgrade -y && apt-get autoremove -y && apt-get autoclean -y && sync && sync) so aggressively....trying to keep myself patched to stay off the vulnerability scanners -
[19:32] <rymate1234> has there been any work on performance in ubuntu 14.04?
[19:32] <rymate1234> it feels like it
[19:32] <rymate1234> unity isnt slow any more on my netbook
[19:32] <donofrio> yah it was going fast yesterday or day before then bam this happens...
[19:32] <rymate1234> what happened
[19:32] <donofrio> ran that apt-get sequence
[19:32] <rymate1234> is this apt-get upgrade a bad idea
[19:33] <rymate1234> o
[19:33] <rohan> donofrio: the only way to install -19 back is if it is still exists in your package cache
[19:33] <Daekdroom> You're supposed to upgrade packages every once in awhile.
[19:34] <rymate1234> o lol
[19:34] <BluesKaj> donofrio, keeping the system clean is one thing but one should make sure of what's being cleaned out before using the -y flag
[19:36] <donofrio> rohan, don't believe it's still in cache (hence clean and remove)
[19:36] <rohan> same here, it doesn't exist for me either
[19:36] <donofrio> guess I'm rebuilding.....oh well just wanted to have this system up-to-date as possable but guessing I'm going to have to blacklist kernel updaets
[19:43] <roasted_> hello friends
[19:44] <roasted_> I found a bug I'd like to report but I'm not sure what to file it against. It's the amd64+mac ISO running on a late 2009/early 2010 (or so) clamshell Macbook. The issue is the computer hardlocks on restart, however it works fine when doing a full shutdown and a regular full startup.
[19:44] <donofrio> 12.04.4 booting (again - I rebuild like once every four months anyways)  fwiw I've been standing at work for come the 8th a whole year now
[19:46] <jcabb> Hi.  I can't find any docs on LVM during install..info is elusive.  I've only found this which is for LTS.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM   Anyone know of any docs that explain how it gets installed and how to utilize it afterward?
[19:46] <donofrio> my kindom for the man (or woman) who knows how to "not download locale files" besides pulling the network wire durnning setup)
[19:48] <donofrio> 12.02 TLS installing.....i'll update-manager -d it to 13.04 then I guess I'll just stay there for a few months....even though I fear the more people recommend/havd no other solution, the longer it wtill take for solution to be found....just sharing
[19:49] <rww> -d = devel release
[19:53] <Wnt> I was about to change my defult GRUB boot option and noticed that /boot/grub/grub.conf has entries like "menuentry 'Ubuntu' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-18f2aecd-18d1-4482-bb8b-0bfb4e97
[19:53] <Wnt> shouln't the $menuentry_id_option be replaced with --id?
[19:59] <bipolar> Does anyone know what happened to the lightdm-set-defaults command? I can't find it in trusty. It used to be in /usr/lib/lightdm/ and was provided by the 'lightdm' package.
[20:01] <mahyarap> hi, the latest update of ubuntu broke it completely. Is there anybody experiencing the same?
[20:01] <trism> bipolar: it was removed in lightdm 1.9.4-0ubuntu1 according to the changelog
[20:03] <bipolar> trism, hmm... guess I need to change my scripts and modify the files directly.
[20:08] <trUsty> hi
[20:12] <optrusty> hey guys I want to know how to make a simple program sorry for being new (Been on windows for 2 years)
[20:13] <optrusty> hey guys I want to know how to make a simple program sorry for being new (Been on windows for 2 years)
[20:14] <mbalmer> that is quite vague.  any progamming language you fathom?
[20:14] <bipolar> optrusty, this probably isn't the best channel for questions like that. I would try to find a channel for whatever programing language you plan on using.
[20:15] <mbalmer> optrusty, try #lua
[20:15] <mbalmer> easy language, helpful people
[20:16] <bipolar> Or #python perhaps. Really depends on what you want to do.
[20:17] <bipolar> maybe #bash :P
[20:17]  * bipolar ducks
[20:17] <optrusty> ok, but what channel is that and can I port the code to run ubuntu without extensions
[20:18] <bipolar> optrusty, do you have any programing experience on windows or any other OS?
[20:18] <mahyarap> I'm not really sure if it is a bug. After the latest update ubuntu is broken now. Can someone help me with this?
[20:19] <optrusty> nope I am just a nerd at using utilites, build computer and hack no programming exept .bat
[20:19] <mbalmer> start with #lua or #python then.
[20:20] <mbalmer> both are excellent languages for beginners.
[20:20] <mbalmer> and both can be used on ubuntu
[20:21] <bipolar> optrusty, batch scripts on windows are *kindof* like bash scripts in linux.... if you take bash and push it down a flight of stairs and then scoop out it's brains though it's eyes with a rusty spoon.
[20:21] <optrusty> I kind of suck at python tried it out failed let me try lua
[20:21] <bipolar> optrusty, you would do yourself a big favor to learn any programing language and work out from there.
[20:22] <mbalmer> he said he'll do that.  and Lua is not a bad starting point...
[20:23] <bipolar> you can do it optrusty! Don't give up.
[20:23] <optrusty> ok thx guys
[20:39] <asdasd111> Anyone see their fglrx driver no longer working as of the latest 14.04 updates?
[20:50] <Rounin> So... I tried upgrading to 14.10, but each time it starts updating libc and generating locales, I get a kernel panic saying "Attempting to kill init!"
[20:50] <Rounin> Could it maybe not do that or what
[20:51] <k1l_> 14.10?
[20:51] <Rounin> "attempted" in the past tense, even
[20:51] <Rounin> Oh... 14.04
[20:51] <Rounin> .10 would be a tad early
[20:51] <k1l_> and how did you want to upgrade?
[20:51] <Rounin> do-release-upgrade
[20:52] <Rounin> The second time it was just dpkg --configure -a
[20:52] <Rounin> It's the actual installation of the libc .deb that seems to do it
[20:55] <Rounin> 2014-04-04 22:05:46 status half-configured libc6:amd64 2.17-93ubuntu4
[20:55] <Rounin> 2014-04-04 22:05:46 status half-installed libc6:i386 2.17-93ubuntu4
[20:55] <Rounin> ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
[20:55] <Rounin> And then more ^@
[20:56] <Rounin> Oh, someone else reported the same thing http://askubuntu.com/questions/373189/installing-libc6i386-on-ubuntu-13-10-64-bit-tries-to-kill-init
[21:01] <optrusty> Rounin: what graphics manager do you have
[21:02] <Rounin> optrusty: What's a graphics manager
[21:05] <optrusty> Rounin: my mistake windows manager is the user interface
[21:07] <Rounin> optrusty: Oh... I use Kubuntu, so KDE 4
[21:08] <Rounin> Well, whatever KDE 4 uses
[21:10] <optrusty> Rounin: flashing and sound stuck in loop and frozen system right
[21:10] <Rounin> That's right, optrusty
[21:11] <Rounin> Not a lot of things are flashing, but Caps Lock flashes
[21:12] <optrusty> Rounin: check this https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?64095-Kernal-Panic
[21:13] <Rounin> Hm... Running out of video RAM due to upgrading the .deb for libc6:i386, though?
[21:13] <Rounin> Seems like an oddly specific thing to run out of video RAM for
[21:17] <optrusty> how much ram do you have look at this https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?32072-23-446317-Kernel-Panic-not-syncing-Attempted-to-kill-init-!-SOLVED
[21:20] <rohan> anyone know why package "apt" suddenly wants to conflict with sun-java6-jdk?
[21:20] <Rounin> 8GB, optrusty , plus swap that is unused
[21:21] <jtaylor> rohan: they both install an apt binary
[21:22] <optrusty> hmm what are using are real pc or vm
[21:22] <rohan> jtaylor: yup just found an askubuntu question
[21:28] <optrusty> Rounin: hmm what are using are real pc or vm
[21:28] <UtrUsty> hi
[21:29] <Rounin> UtrUsty: A real PC
[21:29] <Rounin> I'm just removing a bunch of i386 libraries now, in the hopes of removing that dependency entirely
[21:29] <cordell> will webbrowser-app be included by default on the i386/amd64 release?
[21:30] <UtrUsty> and right know you are on the pc that had kill init problem
[21:30] <Rounin> Yes
[21:31] <UtrUsty> is this irc username registerd
[21:31] <UtrUsty> because I think you to check the voltage of the RAM
[21:32] <Rounin> Hm... It's a laptop
[21:32] <Rounin> Besides, why would the voltage of the RAM only affect this one .deb package?
[21:33] <UtrUsty> some people say it was replacing the RAM
[21:35] <mvollrath> it's taking 16 seconds to mount an nfs volume in trusty, i can't seem to find a bug for it?
[22:44] <ejo> Hi!  I successfully installed 14.04 final beta from a usb stick.  Works fine but I now have a GRUB boot options menu that I didn't need (it was a clean install).  Is that just expected/normal for a beta?
[22:45] <Ben64> what options?
[22:45] <ejo> I'll have to answer from my poor memory, but it's like... Ubuntu, Advanced options for Ubuntu, and hmm... still thinking... total of about 5 options.
[22:46] <Ben64> thats normal for every ubuntu
[22:46] <Ben64> has recovery options, a ram testing program
[22:46] <ejo> On my 13.10 install previous to this, I was used to booting right into my system without stopping for options.
[22:46] <ejo> Maybe what I had done before was zero the wait time setting?
[22:46] <ejo> (and forgot)
[22:47] <Ben64> oh, normally it skips the screen unless you hold down shift
[22:47] <ejo> there we go, now we're talkin
[22:47] <ejo> so it's not requiring shift, it's just coming up unconditionally.
[22:47] <Ben64> not sure if thats changed on 14.04, i don't have a single boot system
[22:47] <ejo> really not a big problem but not ideal either.
[22:47] <ejo> yeah I'm also fairly used to another box of mine that's dual boot
[22:48] <Ben64> what does "grep -i timeout /boot/grub/grub.cfg" say
[22:48] <ejo> it says about 9 lines with some conditionals.  just a sec
[22:49] <ejo> ... yeah, timeout is mentioned a number of times in there, I might have to give it a deeper read later.
[22:49] <Ben64> if you wanted to change it, thats not the file to modify though
[22:50]  * ejo nods.
[22:50] <Ben64> /etc/default/grub
[22:50] <Ben64> then update grub, and it should change it
[22:51] <ejo> yep
[22:51] <ejo> I'll read up on grub and ought to be able to set up what I want.
[22:52] <Ben64> sounds good
[22:52] <ejo> I think at least half the reason I was motivated to ask about this was that the fact it was a beta install made me take a wild guess
[22:52] <ejo> that maybe betas just alter this by default
[22:52] <Ben64> possible
[22:52] <Ben64> but you should have it working how you like, i'm a big fan of getting what i want out of my computer
[22:53] <ejo> So when final release comes out, the regular update mechanism (or command-line apt, etc.) will pretty much convert the beta install to a release install?  I'm not entirely clear on that from a general web survey.
[22:53]  * ejo agrees on config :)
[22:54] <trism> !final | ejo
[22:55] <ejo> I had a feeling that was a faq!
[22:55] <ejo> sorry
[22:55] <Ben64> don't be sorry, just saves typing by having ubottu
[22:55] <ejo> only been around part time since 8.10
[22:55] <Ben64> all sorts of handy triggers
[22:55] <ejo> yep, we do lots of that in some of my home channels
[22:55] <ejo> thanks for discussing.
[23:12] <teto_>  Hello!! i have an issue with my installation, actually using xubuntu 14.04, after an update the GUI seems to have lost admin privileges... i can't mount a drive, i cant shutdown (it logouts), can't install programs or update, some applets do not work. Via command line is ok. Any tip please!?
[23:57] <lulz> Well. they fixed that big problem I had last night
[23:57] <lulz> Good good.