[03:43] <WJB> can anyone tell me howto burn an iso of ubuntu on a mac so it is readable by7 mac or is that not possible?
[03:43] <cfhowlett> !mac
[04:17] <metasansana> what is the universe-updates source for if they are not updated?
[04:17] <metasansana> ^supported with updates
[04:22] <law> evening all
[04:22] <law> I have a most interesting problem, my Ubuntu server (12.04) forgot how to LVM during the grub boot process
[04:23] <law> once grub drops to shell I'm able to see my /dev/mapper/vol* devices just fine
[04:23] <law> I can mount them, e.g. to /root/ and whatnot
[04:23] <law> but I cannot for the life of me get the system to boot normally
[04:23] <law>  /boot is /dev/sda1, the rest of the partitions (/, /var, etc) are LVM
[04:24] <law> can anyone help me?
[04:28] <sbattey> My server's mail log has hundreds of lines that read "Apr  3 09:09:01 battey sendmail[10786]: s33991bS010786: from=root, size=831, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201404030909.s33991bS010786@battey.me>, relay=root@localhost
[04:28] <sbattey> Apr  3 09:09:01 battey sm-mta[10787]: s33991iA010787: from=<root@battey.me>, size=1065, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201404030909.s33991bS010786@battey.me>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]" Is this normal?
[04:40] <sbattey> Anyone know if these lines in the mail long from sendmail are normal? http://pastebin.com/SG8mQP5d
[04:48] <sheptard> sbattey: likely cron emailing you
[04:48] <sheptard> sbattey: have you bothered to read the messages?
[04:48] <sbattey> I don't know where to find them...
[05:12] <sarnold> sbattey: /var/spool/mail/root ?
[06:08] <faiss> noway to rename p3p2 on saucy, any advice folks?
[07:23] <Daviey> hallyn, why are you using machine type 'trusty' in qwmu?
[07:56] <smb> mwhudson, No there is not an arm64 build. Maybe it would work but I have had no hardware or time to get emulation set up to try. infinity did want to play with it but then its known that infinity's time is pretty much not infinite.
[08:35] <mwhudson> smb: oh does infinity actually sleep?
[08:35] <mwhudson> i wasn't aware
[08:36] <mwhudson> and yes, makes sense about not having time to evaluate
[08:36] <smb> mwhudson, Rarely but even when he does not there seems to be and infinite number of other things to do. :)
[08:41] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:16] <jamespage> zul, dealing with swift rc1 now
[09:16] <jamespage> also tidyting some bits
[09:19] <sgo11> hi, I modified /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts. the command "hostname" returns the correct hostname. but "hostname -f" will always return "localhost". why?
[09:24] <bekks> did you run "sudo hostname newhostname" yet?
[09:24] <iKb> need restart the d
[09:24] <sgo11> bekks, I reboot the machine
[09:24] <sgo11> the machine is rebooted.
[09:26] <sgo11> I gave "<ip> <domain> <hostname>" in /etc/hosts. after "127.0.0.1 localhost". but whatever I do, "hostname -f" always returns localhost. this is 13.10 ubuntu server.
[09:27] <sgo11> I mean "<ip> <FQDN> <hostname>"
[09:27] <iKb> in hosts
[09:27] <iKb> 192.168.0.100   server1.example.com     server1
[09:28] <iKb> ah ok
[09:28] <sgo11> iKb, yeah, that is what I did.
[09:28] <sgo11> but, hostname -f always returns localhost. I am confused.
[09:28] <iKb> in /etc/hosts?
[09:28] <sgo11> iKb, yeah.
[09:29] <iKb> and in hostname?
[09:29] <sgo11> iKb, /etc/hostname just has a hostname.
[09:29] <iKb> echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname
[09:29] <iKb> do it
[09:30] <iKb> than /etc/init.d/hostname restart
[09:30] <sgo11> iKb, why? I remembered I should put hostname in /etc/hostname instead of FQDN.
[09:31] <sgo11> that is what I always did before in old ubuntu-server release. and it worked.
[09:35] <sgo11> I figured out why.
[09:37] <sgo11> in /etc/hosts, the first line should be "127.0.0.1 localhost" instead of "127.0.0.1 localhost <hostname>". I don't know who or which program adds my hostname to that line. After removing it, everything works. I don't need to put FQDN in /etc/hostname.
[09:44] <Guest81700> hey guys, i have a few Qs about securing postgres on ubuntu 12.04
[09:46] <ccapndave> Hey all, I am trying to install Ubuntu Server 14.04 from a usb memory stick, but when it gets to the partition page its not seeing either of the two installed drives, only the memory stick.  FreeBSD sees them fine.  Does anyone have any pointers?
[10:02] <bekks> OK guys. So who did break the kickstart installation of 14.04? The _exact same_ kickstart file works fine with 12.04, while 14.04 bails out being unable to install grub2 on sda.
[10:02] <bekks> Someone please can clue me on how to submit a show stopper bug on this?
[10:07] <jamespage> bekks, ubuntu-bug
[10:55] <jamespage> zul, swift uploaded
[11:02] <spidernik84> hi, anyone ever preseeded a software raid + lvm + crypto preseed? Partman-auto does not support all of them together, apparently.
[11:02] <xnox> spidernik84: you can have two out of the three, not all three. e.g. raid+lvm or lvm +crypto.
[11:03] <spidernik84> xnox, I feared so :(
[11:03] <spidernik84> any workaround you can think of?
[11:03] <xnox> spidernik84: but if you provision a custom script to setup raid for you (e.g. partman/early-command) to do raid, then you can presseed to do lvm+crypto on top of that.
[11:03] <zul> jamespage:  awesome
[11:03] <spidernik84> xnox, I had that idea in mind. Nice to know it's possible :)
[11:03] <spidernik84> thanks
[11:04] <xnox> spidernik84: or it's all shell-scripts so patches to partman-auto-lvm, partman-auto-raid, partman-auto-crypto are welcome to support tripple-combo.
[11:05] <spidernik84> ah nice :) are you a maintainer of partman, by chance?
[11:10] <bekks> jamespage: Do you have an idea which package could be the one with the bug?
[13:08] <zul> jamespage/coreycb: LP: #1302575 for 2012.2.3 Openstack SRU
[13:08] <jamespage> bug 1302575
[13:09] <jamespage> zul, I love having everything happen at the same time :-(
[13:09] <jamespage> zul, I was mean't to release the grizzly updates yesterday - but it slipped my mind/time
[13:10] <jamespage> zul, don't want todo it today so I'll push on monday
[13:10] <jamespage> dosaboy, ^^
[13:10] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[14:10] <hallyn> Daviey: same reason why redhat uses 'rhel'.  If we had done that at precise, then we could now distinguish between people migrating vms from precise's qemu-kvm or from saucy's qemu
[14:10] <hallyn> Daviey: they have different incompatible machine settings, so we cannot at the same time have working migration from precise and from saucy
[14:45] <jrwren> anyone ever have trouble removing full lvm snapshots?  lvremove says the volume is in use, but it is not.
[15:20] <coreycb> zul, jamespage : https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/horizon/2013.2.3/+merge/214280
[15:24] <coreycb> zul, jamespage : https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/keystone/2013.2.3/+merge/214281
[15:55] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/2013.2.3/+merge/214289
[15:55] <zul> https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/glance/2013.2.3/+merge/214290
[15:55] <zul> https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/neutron/2013.2.3/+merge/214291
[15:55] <zul> https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/2013.2.3/+merge/214292
[16:10] <coreycb> zul, jamespage : https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/heat/2013.2.3/+merge/214301
[16:11] <jamespage> zul, swift doing something odd - permissions on balanced rings is limited.
[16:13] <zul> jamespage:  ?
[16:13] <jamespage> zul, yeah - the dep-8 tests is failing as /etc/swift/*.gz is 0500 perms
[16:13] <jamespage> owned by root
[16:14] <zul> jamespage:  oh ok...ill take a look
[16:14] <jamespage> zul, I'm looking as well
[16:14] <coreycb> zul, jamespage : https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/ceilometer/2013.2.3/+merge/214302
[16:14] <jamespage> ownership by root is expected - it looks like rebalance is doing off stuff
[16:14] <jamespage> zul, this is icehouse btw - not havana :-)
[16:23] <hehehe> heya
[16:23] <hehehe> :D
[16:23] <hehehe> how you migrate 1 remote server to another?
[16:24] <jamespage> zul, got it:
[16:24] <jamespage> +        tempf = NamedTemporaryFile(dir=".", prefix=filename, delete=False)
[16:24] <jamespage> urgh
[16:25] <jamespage> NamedTemporaryFile is always created with mode 0600
[16:25] <jamespage> *quote
[16:25] <jamespage> zul, just trying to decide whether that is actually a bug or not
[16:25] <hehehe> emm
[16:25] <hehehe> so
[16:26] <hehehe> how do you do it?
[16:26] <jamespage> hehehe, try rsync over ssh
[16:27] <jamespage> zul, any thoughts?
[16:27] <hehehe> jamespage but it will rewrite ssh files eventually if I copy everything
[16:27] <hehehe> hmm
[16:27] <jamespage> I might raise it upstream for an option
[16:27] <hehehe> but it might work
[16:27] <jamespage> hehehe, use it selectively
[16:27] <jamespage> you can't really just migration the entirtiy of one server to another
[16:27] <hehehe> yes not yet
[16:28] <hehehe> it could be default webhosting option
[16:28] <hehehe> to help people :)
[16:28] <hehehe> I can in theory ask host to write entire server shadow copy on new disk
[16:29] <hehehe> issue is php5 is owned by root on box 1
[16:29] <hehehe> hmm so is nginx
[16:31] <zul> jamespage:  im not sure yet...raise it with upstream if you have to
[16:32] <jamespage> zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/swift/+bug/1302700
[16:32] <jamespage> zul, I can work around it in the tests and charms but its a change in behaviour that will catch people out
[16:33] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[16:33] <jamespage> zul, shall I tag it esp for ttx :-)
[16:34] <jamespage> zul, well I have done anyway...
[16:35] <zul> jamespage:  please ;)
[16:35] <jamespage> zul, ack
[16:37] <hehehe> is it easy to install some gnome on server?
[16:37] <hehehe> I heard many people like gnomes
[16:39] <cfhowlett> hehehe sudo apt-get install gnome
[16:39] <hehehe> ok easy enough
[16:40] <hehehe> apt installs all files into /etc?
[16:41] <hehehe> I want to migrate server with nginx,php5 fpm maria db and wp, so I am thinking perhaps I can save time and copy paste directories
[16:41] <hehehe> that got those libs
[16:55] <zul> jamespage:  hey mind reviewing the stable/havana branches?
[16:55] <jamespage> zul, OK - looking now
[16:59] <zul> jamespage:  at least i can get it started testing in the lab
[17:00] <sync0pate> Can anyone in here give me any idea where to start debugging a problem I have with BTSync?
[17:00] <sync0pate> I'm getting "Don't have permissions to write to the selected folder." despite chmod 777
[17:05] <jamespage> zul, nova commented
[17:05] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[17:06] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: http://blog.bittorrent.com/2013/09/17/sync-hacks-how-to-set-up-bittorrent-sync-on-ubuntu-server-13-04/
[17:07] <sync0pate> that repo didn't work for me at all Tzunamii
[17:07] <sync0pate> I had to install from source
[17:07] <sync0pate> not source sorry
[17:07] <sync0pate> from the website
[17:08] <Tzunamii> I'm not talking about the repo, but what permissions you need etc. Get with the program
[17:08] <sync0pate> well I've seen somewhere suggesting there is more than one version
[17:08] <sync0pate> btsync and btsync-client or something
[17:08] <sync0pate> so
[17:09] <zul> jamespage:  nova fixed
[17:09] <jamespage> zul, glance +1
[17:09] <kpettit> Any suggestions for simple/ease SMTP email server?  Need to setup a email server so my various phones systems, printers, faxes, etc can use some generic accounts to send email.  Use to use Google, CBeyond or whoever but just not reliable.
[17:09] <rbasak> jamespage: could I have a quick sanity check on bug 1301919 please? I propose Breaks/Replaces: open-vm-toolbox (<< 2:0~). Does that choice of version seem right to you?
[17:09] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: btsync and btsync-common is what you need if you indeed use a server
[17:09] <jpds> kpettit: postfix.
[17:09] <kpettit> It would be for sending email only.
[17:10] <kpettit> jpds: it's pretty easy for doing sending only?  Can it do TLS authenticaion out of the box or does it need other software to do that?
[17:10] <rbasak> Or I could look up what version we synced, I suppose.
[17:10] <jpds> kpettit: That's exactly what postfix is for
[17:11] <kpettit> perfect.  Thanks.  I'll give it a go.
[17:11] <jpds> kpettit: Possibly not 'easy' at first, but it's an industry standard.
[17:12] <kpettit> I had done postfix before but it was for doing whole office email.  And it's been a few years.  Wasn't sure if there was something easier for my type of need
[17:12] <jamespage> zul, cinder +1
[17:13] <patdk-wk> kpettit, a nullmailer
[17:13] <patdk-wk> kpettit, likely you want msmtp
[17:13] <kpettit> I'm not sure the right term.  But it just needs to send voicemail, fax2eamil and crap like that.
[17:13] <Tzunamii> msmtp is quite easy and definitely low weight
[17:14] <kpettit> I was using ssmtp to connect to Google, CBeyond but they've been annoying to deal with lately.
[17:14] <jamespage> zul, almost with nova
[17:14] <kpettit> cool.  I'll check out msmtp now....
[17:14] <jamespage> rbasak, thinking
[17:15] <kpettit> Tzunamii: patdk-wk, it looks like msmtp is the same thing as ssmtp.  Which isn't working for me becuase Google keeps blocking my account if I don't login ever X number or days or wahtever.
[17:15] <kpettit> so probally have to go the postfix route I think.  thanks though
[17:15] <patdk-wk> what do you mean, google?
[17:16] <zul> jamespage:  arrgh...try now
[17:16] <patdk-wk> you have two options when doing email, you use a relay server, or you send direct
[17:16] <kpettit> Google email.  I use Google Apps for email and such.
[17:16] <patdk-wk> your not allowed to use gmail as a relay server
[17:16] <patdk-wk> in their terms
[17:16] <patdk-wk> why they keep blocking you
[17:16] <jamespage> zul, +1 - but needs clear runway for landing :-)
[17:16] <sync0pate> Tzunamii, I can't do dpkg-reconfigure because it's not installed as a package,also none of the config dirs exist.. any idea where I should look next?
[17:16] <kpettit> patdk-wk: which is why I'm trying to do my own thing now :)
[17:17] <patdk-wk> ya, then you need postfix :)
[17:17] <kpettit> It worked great for a few years though.
[17:17] <patdk-wk> well, gmail has been ending up on blacklists, so they *care* now
[17:17] <kpettit> I even tried using a SMTP relay service.  But they were crappy to deal with
[17:18] <kpettit> I just hate dealing with email servers.  Guess I'll suck it up and do it :)  I'm turning into a lazy admin I think
[17:18] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: I'm not sure why you didn't install it via the package manager, but I highly suggest you get rid of your own built install and do it the right way
[17:18] <Tzunamii> The config-file(s) are simple enough
[17:18] <sync0pate> because it wouldn't install via package manager
[17:19] <sync0pate> ppa didn't work
[17:19] <jamespage> rbasak, why not just the version where the change was introduced
[17:19] <sync0pate> just said btsync couldn't be found
[17:19] <jamespage> (<< 2:9.4.0-1280544-5)
[17:19] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: Maybe you should have asked for help with the PPA first then. I installed it on a client's server a few days ago from the PPA and it worked fine to me
[17:20] <jamespage> rbasak, looking https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+publishinghistory that should do it
[17:20] <jamespage> (<< 2:9.4.0-1280544-5~)
[17:31] <rbasak> jamespage: OK. Or (<= 2:9.4.0-1280544-5) for intent?
[17:37] <SpamapS> gah.. 23 hops between me and cloud-images.ubuntu.com
[17:49] <patdk-wk> as long as all those hops are .1ms :) with 10gbit bandwidth
[17:52] <sheptard> 10g aint what is used to be
[17:54] <sync0pate> Tzunamii, I got the ppa working, still won't let me add a folder, saying I have no write permissions
[17:54] <sync0pate> I've configured it to run as my user and group
[17:54] <sync0pate> and the folder is 775 in my homedir
[17:59] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: Know that I use a VPN to sync my folder(s) so you might want to use a relay server or something, but here's a working example http://pastebin.com/4S3W1haM
[18:00] <sync0pate> I'm over a VPN too
[18:00] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: put that config into /etc/btsync/<some name here>.conf
[18:01] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: sudo chmod 400 /etc/btsync/<your config file>
[18:01] <Tzunamii> after that: sudo service btsync start
[18:02] <Tzunamii> make sure your user owns the config-file
[18:03] <Tzunamii> as in: sudo chown <your user>:<your group> /etc/btsync/<your config file>
[18:05] <sync0pate> ahh got it thanks Tzunamii
[18:05] <sync0pate> it wasn't the sync folder that wasn't working..
[18:05] <Tzunamii> my pleasure
[18:05] <sync0pate> it was the storage path
[18:05] <sync0pate> I saw that you'd set it in your config, changed mine, and bam
[18:05] <sync0pate> ok.. well.. let's see if it actually syncs now! :D
[18:06] <Tzunamii> Well, if you use iptables on the server you need to open up the relevant ports. Other than that it should work just fine
[18:06] <sync0pate> yeah, I'm through openvpn
[18:06] <Tzunamii> netstat -tldpu|grep -i btsync
[18:06] <sync0pate> everything's open once I'm connected through the vpn
[18:07] <Tzunamii> Perfect
[18:08] <sync0pate> ahh.. it's done it again
[18:09] <sync0pate> it's got halfway through the sync though, I have most of the files, and now it says it can't write to the folder
[18:10] <zul> jamespage:  hey did you merge that branch? ;)
[18:11] <Tzunamii> stop the btsync daemon, rm -r <where your store your files you want to sync>   (note: only if you don't have anything important there), re-create the dir, chmod it 775, restart the daemon
[18:12] <jamespage> zul, sorry - which one?
[18:12] <zul> jamespage:  adam_g's ironic MP
[18:12] <jamespage> zul, nope
[18:12] <jamespage> zul, can do now
[18:12] <zul> jamespage:  thanks
[18:17] <jamespage> zul, merged - still needs a release tho
[18:17] <zul> jamespage:  the neutronclient dep is going to mess us up
[18:17] <sync0pate> same thing again Tzunamii
[18:17] <sync0pate> weird
[18:17] <jamespage> zul, just revert it
[18:17] <zul> jamespage:  yep
[18:17] <sync0pate> gets halfway through, then stops with the error
[18:17] <jamespage> zul, we have it patched at 2.3.0
[18:18] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: When you start syncing from the remote client your dir on the local server is empty?
[18:18] <zul> jamespage:  this looks pretty important though https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/15a912b1ca3c24ba8851b8b77d6de8027e120d78 (reason for newer python-neutronclient is needed)
[18:18] <sync0pate> Yup Tzunamii , rm -rf and re-created it
[18:18] <sync0pate> set to 755
[18:18] <Tzunamii> Very strange
[18:18] <sync0pate> *775
[18:19] <sync0pate> yeah, it's dowloading like.. 60-70% of it
[18:19] <sync0pate> before complaining it can't write to the dir
[18:19] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: space issues?
[18:19] <sync0pate> I've checked I still have disk space
[18:19] <sync0pate> ;)
[18:19] <Tzunamii> heh ok
[18:20] <adam_g> zul, jamespage are you talking about neutronclient wrt stable/havana or ironic?
[18:20] <zul> stable/havana
[18:20] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: Have you tried to sync something else on the remote client? Just a simple 1 byte textfile or whatever?
[18:20] <sync0pate> Yeah
[18:20] <Tzunamii> Does it work?
[18:20] <sync0pate> I tried another folder with a couple textfiles in it
[18:20] <sync0pate> works fine
[18:21] <sync0pate> just the folder that I actually want to sync that's giving me trouble ;)
[18:21] <Tzunamii> Sounds like it might be a file/dir -name issue or something
[18:21] <sync0pate> both running ubuntu..
[18:21] <sync0pate> :\
[18:21] <Tzunamii> Well, I'm sorry, but your daemon now works fine so it's something out of my control
[18:22] <sync0pate> lol
[18:22] <sync0pate> k well thanks
[18:22] <sync0pate> guess I have a fun evening ahead
[18:22] <adam_g> zul, im fairly certain you can drop this one patch from neutron to avoid requiring patching the neutronclient requires https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70178/7, or patch neutronclient ?  its a performance optimzation
[18:22] <sync0pate> :)
[18:23] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: Just sync one thing at a time until you find what's giving you a headache
[18:23] <sync0pate> oh, last thing
[18:23] <sync0pate> the ppa worked on my "client"
[18:23] <sync0pate> but still doesn't work on the server
[18:23] <adam_g> zul, oh wait hold on
[18:23] <sync0pate> any idea?
[18:23] <zul> adam_g:  yeah im looking at the commit now
[18:24] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: If you have updated the server it should work just fine. If you get a specific error message I guess you should Google it.
[18:24] <adam_g> zul, IIRC you may not need to do anything
[18:24] <sync0pate> Tzunamii, I mean it's just "package btsync not found"
[18:24] <sync0pate> after adding ppa and updating
[18:24] <zul> adam_g:  so what if i bump it back down to what we had in saucy?
[18:25] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: alias whichppa='apt-cache policy $1'            # Checks a package for which PPA it belongs to
[18:25] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: Add that to your Bash library to start with
[18:25] <sync0pate> "unable to locate package btsync"
[18:25] <sync0pate> ?
[18:26] <Tzunamii> Clearly your PPA hasn't been added properly
[18:27] <sync0pate> not giving me any errors when I add it..
[18:27] <sync0pate> or update
[18:27] <adam_g> zul, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72754/ fixed a bug in 2013.2.2 that required the neutronclient bump, but the version bump (mistakenly) didnt happen until 2013.2.3. so it should be working fine against 2.3.0 if you dont feel like updating it
[18:27] <adam_g> (ie, i think its safe to patch requirements.txt)
[18:28] <sync0pate> Tzunamii, and it's showing up in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[18:28] <Tzunamii> remove the PPA and add it back again and make sure you doublecheck
[18:29] <Tzunamii> make sure you do a apt-get update after the removal and before the re-adding
[18:29] <sync0pate> k
[18:29] <sync0pate> hmm
[18:29] <sync0pate> it's still showing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[18:30] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: use this link (scroll down) as a reference for how you can do it (multiple ways): http://askubuntu.com/questions/173195/how-do-i-remove-a-ppa-added-via-command-line
[18:30] <zul> adam_g:  i think this is the cause of the change in neutronclient https://github.com/openstack/python-neutronclient/commit/02baef46968b816ac544b037297273ff6a4e8e1b
[18:31] <sync0pate> yeah, I did the first method, now I've done the second
[18:31] <zul> jamespage: ^^^
[18:31] <adam_g> zul, yeah, but what i mean is 2013.2.3 *should* be working fine against python-nc 2.3.0  - 2.3.4, with or without that change
[18:31] <zul> adam_g:  ok cool
[18:32] <zul> adam_g:  im going to revert the requirements bump then
[18:32] <adam_g> zul, give it a test tho after do
[18:32] <sync0pate> same again Tzunamii
[18:32] <zul> adam_g:  i intend to :)
[18:32] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: do #31 @ the link I gave you
[18:33] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: also try the #12
[18:33] <sync0pate> yeah I already did Tzunamii
[18:33] <sync0pate> then re-added it
[18:33] <sync0pate> and updated again
[18:33] <sync0pate> and still package btsync not found
[18:33] <Tzunamii> Did you run the update before re-adding the PPA?
[18:35] <sync0pate> yup
[18:35] <sync0pate> twice
[18:36] <Tzunamii> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tuxpoldo/btsync; sudo apt-get update; apt-get install btsync
[18:36] <Tzunamii> darn
[18:36] <Tzunamii> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tuxpoldo/btsync; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install btsync
[18:36] <sync0pate> yup
[18:37] <sync0pate> E: Unable to locate package btsync
[18:37] <sync0pate> this is all on a vps if it makes a difference?
[18:37] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: cat /etc/lsb-release
[18:37] <sync0pate> I've been able to install other ppas
[18:38] <sync0pate> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[18:38] <sync0pate> DISTRIB_RELEASE=13.04
[18:38] <sync0pate> DISTRIB_CODENAME=raring
[18:38] <sync0pate> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 13.04"
[18:38] <sync0pate> (the one that works is 13.10)
[18:38] <sarnold> yikes, 13.04 has been unsupported for over two months
[18:38] <sarnold> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:39] <sync0pate> ugh
[18:39] <sync0pate> I've only just noticed it's 13.04
[18:39] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: You got your answer right there. On this server you need to install it from source. Scroll down a bit for that part  http://askubuntu.com/questions/284683/how-to-run-bittorrent-sync
[18:39] <sync0pate> the vps provider set it up for me about 2 weeks ago
[18:39] <sync0pate> nah Tzunamii I'll do a dist-upgrade
[18:40] <Tzunamii> ok
[18:40] <sync0pate> they told me it was latest v.
[18:40] <sarnold> not very nice..
[18:42] <sync0pate> ugh.. now dist-upgrade isn't working :\
[18:42] <sync0pate> just thinks there's nothing to update
[18:42] <sync0pate> wtf
[18:42] <sync0pate> may have to change vps provider or something.. they only just installed this one for me because it wasn't updating from a 12.0something LTS
[18:46] <sarnold> sigh
[18:46] <sarnold> wish I'd returned a few minutes earlier..
[18:48] <Tzunamii> He ran away before I could tell him that a dist-upgrade isn't what he wanted
[18:50]  * patdk-wk would run too
[18:50] <sarnold> sync0pate: hey :) I hope you foud out that dist-upgrade isn't what you wanted, but rather do-release-upgrade
[18:50] <sync0pate> command not found :\
[18:51] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[18:51] <patdk-wk> install it
[18:51] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: do-release-upgrade
[18:51] <sync0pate> k
[18:51] <sync0pate> thanks
[18:51] <sync0pate> sorry I'm just in a blind rage at my vps provider at the moment
[18:51] <sync0pate> for putting 13.04
[18:52] <patdk-wk> when did they setup the vps?
[18:52] <sync0pate> about 3 weeks ago?
[18:53] <Tzunamii> Personally I stick to LTS releases unless there's a specific need
[18:53] <sync0pate> I asked them to put the latest LTS
[18:53] <patdk-wk> that would be 12.04
[18:53] <sync0pate> and they've put 13.04
[18:53] <jcastro> We're doing a Juju Charm school at the top of the hour, The topic is Juju Plugins:  http://ubuntuonair.com, we'll be taking questions in #juju
[19:20] <zul> jamespage:  neutron fixed
[20:33] <sync0pate> OK I hope someone can help me
[20:33] <sync0pate> I'm in the middle of a release upgrade to my vps
[20:33] <sync0pate> and I lost ssh connection
[20:33] <sync0pate> any way to regain it?
[20:35] <parallel21> you've ssh'd back into the machine?
[20:36] <sync0pate> yeah
[20:36] <sync0pate> I've heard there's some kind of screen -r or something?
[20:36] <parallel21> I think try screen -list
[20:36] <sync0pate> There is a screen on:
[20:36] <sync0pate> 	16588.ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window	(04/04/14 19:52:27)	(Attached)
[20:36] <sync0pate> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-root.
[20:36] <parallel21> screen -r should work
[20:37] <sync0pate> screen -r shows me the same thing as screen -list and says "there is no screen to be resumed" ..
[20:38] <parallel21> screen -D -r 16588.ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window
[20:38] <sync0pate> :D
[20:38] <sync0pate> that's it! thanks
[20:39] <sync0pate> glad I found this room..
[20:39] <parallel21> np :)
[20:40] <sync0pate> OK I have another question actually
[20:43] <parallel21> what's the question?
[20:49] <sync0pate> well
[20:49] <sync0pate> I had another question, but it seems the dist-upgrade might have fixed it
[20:51] <verdeP> oh I just did a dist-upgrade too...it kept holding back that kernel q.q
[21:10] <sync0pate> is there something that makes an ssh session time out, or stop responding after a certain time?
[21:11] <Tzunamii> Some routers times out connections
[21:12] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: There are a number of ways to fix this. This is one of them http://www.itworld.com/networking/397458/how-prevent-ssh-timing-out
[21:12] <sync0pate> nice, thanks
[21:13] <sync0pate> fyi, btsync is working now
[21:13] <Tzunamii> Congratz
[21:13] <sync0pate> it occasionally displays the same error (!?) but now it resumes after a couple seconds
[21:13] <sync0pate> and starts working again
[21:13] <sync0pate> so.. I have no idea, but it seems to be working
[21:31] <keithzg> Hmm, is networking broken in current Trusty at the moment? Just did a test install of server from the latest daily and it's mysteriously unable to resolve addresses, despite having a nearly identical /etc/network/interfaces to the 12.04 servers I have on the same network.
[21:35] <bekks> Works fine for me.
[21:35] <Tzunamii> sudo service dnsmasq status
[21:37] <keithzg> dnsmasq: unrecognized service
[21:43] <sync0pate> hmm.. now btsync has stopped itself
[21:43] <sync0pate> Tzunamii, any idea? log says "Received shutdown request via signal 15"
[21:46] <sarnold> something sent it a SIGTERM
[21:46] <sync0pate> any idea what it may have been or why?
[21:46] <sync0pate> or how I can find out?
[21:46] <sync0pate> I wonder if my vps host is doing it.. they do explicitly say they allow btsync
[21:46] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: Sorry, new to me. Out of RAM or diskspace? Did you create a race-condition with two btsync config-files saving to the same local directory? You need to Google it as I have 7 terminals up helping two clients
[21:46] <sync0pate> lol ok Tzunamii , you've helped me enough :D
[21:47] <sarnold> sync0pate: what were the circumstances when it died?
[21:47] <sync0pate> sarnold, was about 10 minutes after I started the service up..
[21:47] <sync0pate> it had synced everything and was, I imagine, idling?
[21:47] <sync0pate> i'll double check the log
[21:48] <sync0pate> couple of lines saying "incoming connection from : <my ip> "
[21:48] <sync0pate> then [20140404 19:44:21.961] UPnP: Could not map UPnP Port on this pass, retrying.
[21:48] <sync0pate> [20140404 19:44:22.965] Received shutdown request via signal 15
[21:48] <sync0pate> [20140404 19:44:24.454] Shutdown. Saving config sync.dat
[21:49] <sync0pate> there's a bunch of those UPnP things above
[21:49] <sarnold> hmm, maybe
[21:49] <sarnold> sync0pate: can you disable the upnp firewall rules in btsync?
[21:50] <sync0pate> yeah
[21:50] <sync0pate> good idea
[21:50] <sync0pate> I don't need it anyway
[21:50] <Tzunamii> sync0pate: If you're using a VPN for btsync, use the settings from my config-file I shared with you
[21:51] <sync0pate> will do Tzunamii
[21:51] <sync0pate> I was changing them line-by-line until it worked