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paul_____hello02:50
paul_____Recently installed ubuntu-touch on Nexus 5...02:51
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Bray90820Would this be a good place to get help with loading ubuntu with 3rd party boot loaders03:13
Mirvslangasek: it seems that -c0 line hasn't been touched since the initial packaging in 2012 (http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/qt/qtbase.git;a=commit;h=9376975341a7aab662d3ffdc3a79b04bbd41749e) and was seemingly copied from qt4-x1103:35
nhainesBray90820: on the desktop?  No, that'd be askubuntu.com or #ubuntu, probably.03:47
rwwassuming you mean ubuntu on phone, #ubuntu's usual response to that is "lol go ask #ubuntu-touch"03:50
slangasekMirv: ok.  I also found when I looked more closely that debian/rules was ignoring the return values of all the dh_makeshlibs calls except the last one... ;)  I'll be throwing patches towards the Ubuntu package branch soonish05:19
dufluslangasek: That systemd assert/crash, shouldn't something like that have rules to generate crash reports?05:39
dufluOops, wrong channel05:40
slangasekduflu: well, there's a default rule that certainly should have covered it.  However, with logind failing, consolekit is probably also broken, so maybe the user is never given an opportunity to approve crash report submissions <sigh>05:45
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dholbachgood morning06:56
mihirdholbach, good Morning :)06:58
dholbachhi mihir06:58
mihirdholbach, hello :)06:58
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday and happy Walk to Work Day! :-D08:37
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dholbachpitti, didrocks, jibel: do you know who could help give some answers to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333041?10:02
ubot5KDE bug 333041 in Ubuntu "Tests fail in armhf build" [Normal,Unconfirmed]10:02
facundobatistaogra_, ping, good morning! question: I'm using ubuntu-emulator... and since today it's starting with no network at all (I get the "Network" list empty, and in the notification I see the wifi signal all turned off and with a small x in the lower right corner)10:53
facundobatistaogra_, do you have an idea of how can I debug what's going on and try to get the network back in there?10:54
facundobatistaogra_, thanks!!10:54
ogra_facundobatista, i dont think the indicator ever showed any network connections ... the emulator doesnt emulate any mobile connections10:56
ogra_(including wlan)10:57
ogra_afaik it only has a virtual ethernet device the UI wont show you10:57
facundobatistaogra_, ah, ok, so it *should* have an internet connection even if the indicator is like that and Network list empty?10:58
ogra_right10:58
facundobatistaogra_, ah, fantastic, thank you very much!!10:58
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anpokhow can I restore the android bootloader?11:36
ogra_the bootloader ?11:36
anpokseems like I manage to break it11:37
ogra_err, how ?11:37
anpokno idea what caused it11:37
ogra_if you manage to break the bootloader you actually have a brick11:37
anpokonly the bootloeader menu11:37
ogra_you cant boot with the volume down key held down ?11:37
anpokI mean - i can still boot the nexus 411:37
ogra_ah11:38
ogra_so its not the bootloader11:38
anpokwhen I press volume +/- and power button after some time I see a red LED11:38
ogra_that is a dead battery11:39
anpokdevice is chared.. I can boot ubuntu touch..11:39
ogra_make sure to charge the device regulary on a wall charger (USB ports on a PC/laptop only provide 500mA)11:39
anpokoh11:40
anpokyou are right11:40
anpokI had it plugged in a few hours this morning and i can enter the menu..11:40
anpokwhy would it refuse to go into that menu, but still boot ubuntu touch?11:40
ogra_anpok, i dont get what your issue is then, if ubuntu boots all should be fine ?11:46
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ffelgenh1Hi *, I installed r250 on a nexus 7 right now with12:06
ffelgenh1ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty --bootstrap12:06
ffelgenh1is this correct when installing on a tablet? I could not find an of the special tablet things like sidestage or core apps adapted to landscape. Only karma machine has some landscape orientation mode.12:06
greybackffelgenh1: nexus7 is still in forced portrait mode. As you saw, some apps support a landscape mode. We're working on this though12:13
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ffelgenh1greyback: thanx!12:21
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dholbachcan anyone help give some answers to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333041?12:42
ubot5KDE bug 333041 in Ubuntu "Tests fail in armhf build" [Normal,Unconfirmed]12:42
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dholbachIn 2m (13 UTC) we're going to have a feedback session about our HTML5 App Dev story on http://ubuntuonair.com/  - just a quick reminder.12:58
dholbachwe're hanging out on #ubuntu-on-air - so feel free to ask your questions there and give your feedback there13:03
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ogra_stgraber, bug 130217413:21
ubot5bug 1302174 in lxc-android-config (Ubuntu) "Booting mako hangs randomly right after run-init" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130217413:21
ogra_oh, i should update the title13:21
ogra_changed :P13:22
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greppedHi, what are hardware requirements for ubuntu-touch13:58
greppedwhat are minimum hardware requirements for ubuntu-touch14:01
pmcgowangrepped, best results would be 1ghz+ processor and 2GB mem bit it could run with less14:02
greppedpmcgown, I thought of working on Ubuntu-touch port on my LG-P500. It has RAM of 512MB. But according to you, it seems to be far less than required14:05
pmcgowangrepped, it can work with 512MB but we do not have a current reference design with that much memory so no recent testing I know of, you could look at the ported devices list to see if others have done so14:16
greppedare you guys doing development in C++?14:17
greppedpmcgowan, I checked devices list. I could not find any device with 512MB RAM. All are on and above 1GB RAM.14:18
annerajbhello everybody14:19
greppedpmcgowan, I think I should give a try? what do you suggest?14:19
JamesTaitpstolowski, I've updated the wiki page for Click Package Index with the proposed format for collections.  Not all the edits are done yet, and I could do with running it by a couple of other people, but I think it should be enough to get you started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppStore/Interfaces/ClickPackageIndex#Departments14:20
pmcgowangrepped, it would be interesting to see if you are willing14:20
JamesTaitalecu, ^^14:20
annerajbrsalveti, can I start porting 4.2 based devices now and is there a updated documentation for it??14:20
rsalvetiyou can already start porting to 4.4, we just need to update the doc =\14:21
annerajbrsalveti, is the process different than the doc by great lenghts??14:21
brendandis the new app switcher in -proposed or is it in devel now as well?14:21
rsalvetinot much, no14:21
greppedpmcgowan, thanks! Do you want to point me to any particular beginners documentation?14:21
annerajbrsalveti, how do you specify that it has to checkout the 4.4 framework? is there a argument you pass?14:22
pmcgowangrepped, look at the porting guide in the topic if you have not14:22
annerajbor i have to go and update the repo.xml so it checksout a different branch?14:22
rsalvetirepo init -u https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/p/aosp/platform/manifest.git -b phablet-4.4.2_r114:23
pmcgowanrsalveti, what do you think about a port to a device with 512MB14:23
pstolowskiJamesTait, thank you14:23
rsalvetidifferent manifest14:23
rsalvetipmcgowan: port should be fine, might just be an issue to run unity8 properly14:23
rsalvetibut you can try to enable swap or zram14:24
pmcgowangrepped, ^^14:24
pstolowskiJamesTait, I think in the departments section, the part which returns "Content-Type: application/json; " is a leftover from previous approach? the correct one is with "Accept: application/hal+json" ?14:24
JamesTaitpstolowski, that's correct.  Sorry, I should also have referred to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppStore/Interfaces/ClickPackageIndex#Response_Format14:25
JamesTaitpstolowski, it's really just to maintain backward compatibility.14:25
pstolowskiJamesTait, ah, I see14:26
* JamesTait -> school run, etc.14:26
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greppedpmcgowan, rsalveti, based on your comments, not sure if I should go for it14:28
pmcgowangrepped, right, better to find a different target and have it work well14:29
greppedpmcgowan, thanks. Which handset are you using for ubuntu touch? which one do you suggest? I will go for it if possible14:30
pmcgowangrepped, Nexus 414:31
pmcgowanthere is also a Nexus 5 port done by someone in the community14:31
rickspencer3hey scopers, if I am getting this error:14:32
rickspencer3Caught an error from create_query(): unity::scopes::TimeoutException: Request timed out after 300 milliseconds14:32
greppedok14:32
rickspencer3shall I assume that means I have a call in my code that is blocking too long?14:32
rickspencer3seems I get that if I uncomment this: QDomDocument fridgeDoc;14:33
alecuJamesTait: great, thanks!14:33
ogra_stgraber, well, what do you suggest how to get any info about cgmanager if the system hardlocks beacuse of it14:35
stgraberogra_: do you have a /var/log/upstart/cgmanager.log?14:36
ogra_stgraber, 4 people have been running reboots for the last two days to even get the info that reverting it fixes the hardlocks14:36
stgraberogra_: booting the system in debug mode would be nice too so we could figure out what upstart is doing14:36
stgraberogra_: I'm not saying there isn't a bug, I'm just saying we don't know what it is or where it is yet14:37
ogra_stgraber, right14:37
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ogra_stgraber, i dont think it is necessarily cgmanager itself though14:38
ogra_http://paste.ubuntu.com/7203516/14:38
ogra_here is the log14:38
rsalvetigot a bunch of cgmanager segfault when it tries to start on the emulator14:38
ogra_the system ran with debug for quite a while14:38
rsalvetineed to debug that as well14:38
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ogra_rsalveti, well. see bug 1302174 ... thats the one that killed the lab14:39
ubot5bug 1302174 in cgmanager (Ubuntu) "Booting mako hangs randomly with cgmanager installed" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130217414:39
rsalvetiinteresting14:39
stgraberrsalveti: ah, a segfault seems nice, especially if you can get a coredump out of it somehow14:39
ogra_stgraber, in fact i first thought it is udev (and i still think it is involved)14:39
ogra_stgraber, since it started to massively impact us with image 274 where udev changed from 204-5ubuntu13 to 204-5ubuntu1414:40
ogra_there were apparently crashes before that since we switched to cgmanager (more than with cgroup-lite), but not at that frequency14:41
ogra_stgraber, it might even be that our re-ordered boot (udev only starting after the container etc) has impact14:41
ogra_but its clear that reverting to cgroups-lite fixes it14:42
ogra_*cgroup-lite14:42
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stgraberogra_: yeah, unfortunately reverting to cgroup-lite isn't something we can live with for very long... we're still working on getting upstart to use cgmanager14:42
rsalvetistgraber: will try to get the crash file14:43
ogra_stgraber, right, but we needed the lab back up ... thats why i opened the cgmanager task on the bug14:43
stgraberrsalveti: thanks. I'm updating my mako here to try and figure out what's going on14:43
ogra_and uploaded the lxc-android-config revert for now14:43
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sil2100kgunn: hi!14:53
kgunnsil2100: yo!14:54
sil2100kgunn: so, not sure if michi or Mirv poked you about that already, but we have that unity8 crasher that's appearing on autopilot test runs14:55
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nik90Ursinha: ping15:02
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nik90Ursinha: (about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1253836)15:02
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1253836 in Ubuntu Clock App "It's not possible to set a "One Time" alarm for the current day of week" [High,Incomplete]15:02
sil2100kgunn: sorry, got context-switched - anyway, regarding that crasher15:03
sil2100kgunn: michi had a look at that one and said it look like a Mir bug in the end, and Mirv filled in a better crash file and trace as a separate bug15:03
sil2100kgunn: so, we suspect two bugs showing the same issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1256360 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1302550 (the new bug)15:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1256360 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "unity8 crashed with SIGSEGV in glDeleteTextures() from mir::scene::GLPixelBuffer::~GLPixelBuffer() from mir::scene::ThreadedSnapshotStrategy::~ThreadedSnapshotStrategy()" [Medium,Confirmed]15:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1256360 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1302550 unity8 crashed with SIGSEGV in glDeleteTextures() from mir::scene::GLPixelBuffer::~GLPixelBuffer() from mir::scene::ThreadedSnapshotStrategy::~ThreadedSnapshotStrategy()" [Medium,Confirmed]15:05
sil2100Ah, I see LP already made it a duplicate now, it wasn't still 15 minutes ago15:05
sil2100kgunn: anyway, could you assign someone to that to take a look? I heard that management was thinking of making that a 'blocker'15:05
kgunnsil2100: i'm following...but on the phone15:06
kgunnwill get on it15:06
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sil2100Thanks :)15:06
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stgraberogra_: so it looks like the current proposed image has a broken systemd/logind so that won't help. I'm now manually updating everything in it to current trusty except for lxc-android-config, then will check that all the upstart jobs look sane and after that try your script to see if I can get it to hang.15:21
ogra_stgraber, new image is building atm15:21
ogra_should be ready in 45min or so15:21
stgraberogra_: yeah but I don't want the new lxc-android-config15:21
ogra_well, trivial to change back :)15:22
ogra_stgraber, the prob is really that you can only trigger the issue every 80 boots or so ... it will be very time consuming15:23
stgraberogra_: oh, right, so I forgot that ubuntu touch had a pretty old kernel and so you're using cgproxy as well as cgmanager, the lxc-android-config start condition is therefore wrong. Let me fix that before I stress test it15:32
ogra_stgraber, so it should have been cgproxy ?15:32
ogra_will that not eat precious boot time ?15:32
* ogra_ is on a quest for faster boots :)15:33
stgraberogra_: whether you need to start after cgmanager or cgproxy depends on the kernel you use, so I'm adding an extra upstart event that can be reliably used for that15:35
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stgraberogra_: cgproxy is single threaded, tiny and does nothing at start time, so it should basically only take the time required for an extra fork() and reading a few KBs from disk, nothing that should be visible15:36
ogra_stgraber, please dont roll back the lxc-android-config change before the next week though ... we have a massive backlog in testing due to all phones being dead in the lab15:36
ogra_ok, that sounds fine15:37
stgraberogra_: so I think I managed to reproduce your hang, looks like a race between cgproxy and lxc, the rest of the system however seems to boot fine, you just don't get adb because it depends on the container being up15:43
stgrabertrying to reproduce it again with adb starting on immediately on startup15:43
ogra_stgraber, nope, than it isnt the same hang15:43
ogra_stgraber, the hang we saw hung the device hard (we have an emergency adb in the image that fires off when the container cant start)15:44
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stgraberogra_: well, your backup adb assumes that cgmanager and cgproxy themselves start successfuly, otherwise lxc-android-config is never started so won't ever emit the failure to start15:46
stgraberI'm doing another batch of tests with adb starting on startup instead which should guarantee that if upstart starts at all, I'll get a shell15:47
ogra_oh, right15:47
ogra_cant fail if it never tries15:47
stgraberexactly15:47
ogra_i should probably switch over to it just having a timer ... if the container didnt start after $TIMEOUT we consider the boot broken and frie up the emergency shell15:48
stgraberyeah, that'd probably have helped quite a bit with this bug15:49
rsalvetiogra_: +115:50
ogra_i*ll work on that next week ...15:50
ogra_(first i need to get that darn bootcharting done)15:50
stgraberogra_: ok, so there was also a small race between cgmanager and cgproxy as their upstart jobs weren't quite right. I have now fixed all of that stuff and will run a reboot loop, hopefully things will work fine now.16:02
ogra_stgraber, \o/16:03
stgraberif they do, I'll upload the fix cgmanager and we can look into switch lxc-android-config back to cgmanager next week16:03
ogra_you rock !!!16:03
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tedgjhodapp, So I grabbed silo6 and I'm not seeing the media player in the sound menu, do you expect it to be?16:57
tedgOr is that a future branch thing?16:57
jhodapptedg, which menu are you referring to exactly?16:58
tedgjhodapp, The one in the top panel with the volume icon16:58
jhodapptedg, I don't see that either, though I don't have anything to do with that feature16:59
tedgjhodapp, Is the media player exporting MPRIS?16:59
jhodapptedg, no17:00
tedgjhodapp, Ah,okay. Will it soon? :-)17:00
jhodapptedg: media-hub implements the MPRIS v2 interface (or most of it)17:00
tedgAh, so a naming thing. Is the media-hub exporting the MPRIS interface on the bus in silo6?17:01
jhodapptedg, yes, though there may be apparmor issues17:01
tedgjhodapp, Is media-hub confined?17:01
jhodapptedg, jdstrand is looking into that right now17:01
jhodapptedg, not sure...do we have a generic policy in place to confine by default and then relax things specifically? or is it the other way around?17:02
tedgNo, it's the other way around.17:02
jhodapptedg, hmm, then I don't know why it's not showing up...who wrote that menu functionality?17:03
tedgjhodapp, What name does the media hub register as?17:03
sergiusenstedg: media-hub isn't confined; it's started by upstart17:03
sergiusensapp access to it may be though17:03
tedgjhodapp, Most recently me :-)17:03
sergiusenswell, should be, as it's a new name on the bus that they would need to access17:04
sergiusensby upstart as part of the session that is17:04
jhodapptedg, ok, let me get you the exported name string17:04
ogra_tedg, oh, so i can blame you that i have VLC and rhythmbox entries in that menu on my desktop ?17:04
jhodapplol17:04
tedgogra_, Heh, you're welcome to, but it's a feature not a bug :-)17:05
ogra_lol17:05
sergiusensogra_: yeah, would be nice if they go wth nameownerlost :-)17:05
ogra_well, kind of "feature"17:05
sergiusensgo away with nameownerlost17:05
* ogra_ would prefer to only see the app he uses for music playback there 17:05
jhodapptedg, "core.ubuntu.media.*" where * is Service, Player, etc17:06
tedgI don't see a media-hub running, do I need to explicitly install it?17:06
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jhodapptedg, yes17:06
jhodappapt-get install media-hub17:06
jhodappalso qtubuntu-media17:07
tedgOkay, that should help me to see it :-)17:07
jhodapptedg, yes indeed17:07
tedgHmm, music doesn't work at all now :-(17:10
tedgMy song is "NaN:NaN"17:10
tedgjhodapp, Do I need to install anything else?17:11
jhodapptedg, did you uninstall the *touch packages for qtmultimedia?17:11
tedgNo17:12
jhodapppurge those17:12
jhodappdpkg --get-selections | grep touch will list all of them (plus others, should be obvious which ones)17:12
tedgHmm, still not playing :-/17:16
jhodapptedg, sure you're running media-hub-server?17:17
tedgYes17:17
tedgNo upstart log for it.17:18
jhodapptedg: run it like this once: "GST_DEBUG=*:4 media-hub-server"17:18
tedgBut there's no name registered in dbus17:18
tedgSegfault17:18
jhodapptedg, you're missing the hybris side of things17:19
jhodapptedg, you need a new system.img17:19
jhodapptedg, check out http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/718015/17:21
tedgjhodapp, Hmm, that sounds harder :-)17:21
jhodapptedg, it's not too bad17:21
tedgjhodapp, I think that's missing a digit?17:21
jhodapptedg, oops yeah, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7185015/17:21
tedgjhodapp, That's for flo, does it work on mako?17:22
jhodapptedg, it should but I don't have one so I haven't tested it...I can build you a system.img for mako if you like17:23
tedgjhodapp, Hmm, what's your timeline for landing? Need to see why the sound indicator isn't just picking it up, but not sure I'll beat you.17:24
jhodapptedg, this afternoon I'd like to land it17:24
jhodapptedg, a mako image is building for you17:24
tedgjhodapp, Ah, okay. Let me just wait for it to land then.17:24
jhodappok17:25
tedgWorried that we may only support MPRIS v117:25
stgraberogra_: fixes pushed to cgmanager upstream, now running the new version on my mako and trying to get it to hang17:27
jhodapptedg, it should be mostly v217:31
jhodapptedg, or most of rather17:31
om26erwho to talk about ubuntu-system-image code ?17:35
mhall119RSS Reader meeting about to start in #ubuntu-touch-meeting18:01
sergiusensom26er: that's barry (as implicitly stated in the testplan) and the "UE Weekly QA Health Snapshot"18:10
om26ersergiusens, oh, it must be an oversight from my side, anyways thanks :)18:11
sergiusensnp18:11
om26erbarry, Hi! I am automating the system upgrade test plan, my initial test does drive the UI in ubuntu-system-settings though its only testing the upgrade side, so do you think its fine to keep that test code inside ubuntu-system-upgrade ?18:12
barryom26er: i'm sorry, i don't quite understand18:13
om26erbarry, I am writing auto tests for this plan https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/ubuntu-system-image I am asking is it fine to propose the test addition inside ubuntu-system-upgrade codebase ?18:14
barryom26er: ah.  do you mean as additional unittests or something else?18:15
om26erbarry, integration tests, rather. which will test the upgrades are working fine18:15
barryom26er: yeah, it probably does make sense to keep them close to the component you're testing.  if it's most convenient to do so, then by all means, let's do it.  why not put then in a top-level "integration-tests" directory?18:17
barryom26er: and then the question is, does this directory need to be included in the binary packages?18:18
om26erbarry, we can probably create a separate deb for the test if its fine by you, something ubuntu-system-image-autopilot ?18:18
barryom26er: will these tests be run by autopilot then?18:19
stgraberogra_: up to 65 reboots, no crash so far :)18:19
stgraberogra_: my plan is to beat your 273 and call it stable18:20
om26erbarry, its a sum of two. the autopilot tests will run from inside a python unittest which will first flash the device using ubuntu-device-flash, then tests will run on the phone/tablet with autopilot as we want to upgrade the image as a user would do18:21
barryom26er: so let's call the directory 'autopilot' and be sure to write them in python 3 :)18:22
barryand i'll add a -autopilot binary package18:23
om26erbarry, oh yeah, for sure.18:23
om26ermy code is already python3 :)18:23
barry\o/18:24
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ogra_stgraber, hah, good luck :)18:45
stgraberogra_: we got a crash after 80 or so runs, unsure what exactly happened since we don't get a crash file... trying to stres it in a more efficient way to figure it out18:47
ogra_k18:47
ogra_hmm, i cant remember having ever run tests on my flo ..18:48
ogra_but obviously i lost the available apps18:48
* ogra_ only sees weird fake apps18:48
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davmor2pmcgowan: in settings→security→dash search you have phone and internet as default and then phone only.  Is phone only meant to only search locally to the device18:55
pmcgowanlet me look but sounds like it18:55
pmcgowandavmor2, and since its you asking I suspect it doesnt do that?18:56
davmor2pmcgowan: correct Toykeeper first spotted it18:56
pmcgowanalthough it used to, since it took us 30 mins to figure out why someone was not getting remote results18:57
pmcgowanah may have broken with new scopes, I wonder18:57
* pmcgowan boots 27718:58
davmor2pmcgowan: could be18:58
davmor2pmcgowan: so I had it on Phone only and in the scopes scope I put my home town and there are results :(19:00
pmcgowandavmor2, so it was working on march 1419:03
pmcgowanand the log should say online search is off19:03
pmcgowan /home/phablet/.cache/unity-scope-click.log that is19:04
pmcgowandavmor2, do you see apps in the store?19:04
* ogra_ sees fake apps19:05
davmor2ogra_: that is fixed now do a search it will refresh them19:05
ogra_was that server side ?19:06
davmor2ogra_: they did a roll out and accidentally copied over the staging server19:06
ogra_heh19:06
davmor2I let them know as soon as I saw it was fixed about 10 minutes ago19:07
davmor2pmcgowan: http://davmor2.co.uk/~davmor2/screenshots-phone/device-2014-04-04-200735.png and http://davmor2.co.uk/~davmor2/screenshots-phone/device-2014-04-04-200857.png and http://davmor2.co.uk/~davmor2/screenshots-phone/device-2014-04-04-200951.png19:10
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davmor2pmcgowan: that is confirmation of the setting, app search and scopes scope search I can also open grooveshark and get content19:14
pmcgowandavmor2, sorry, so click scopes does show store apps when internet is off?19:15
davmor2pmcgowan: yeap if I do a search it gets content in the available section19:15
pmcgowandavmor2, ok so that is defintely broken in new scopes, it used to work19:16
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davmor2pmcgowan: who's the best person to assign that too is it thomas strehl's team19:18
pmcgowanyes19:18
davmor2pmcgowan: thanks19:18
davmor2ToyKeeper: ^19:18
davmor2ToyKeeper: also well spotted :)19:18
ToyKeeperSorry, I'm a bit behind on filing the bugs I've found...  have had a few other things filling up my time lately.19:20
davmor2ToyKeeper: if you want I can file you can confirm or visa versa if you're juggling too much19:21
ToyKeeperThe juggling should get a lot easier in the near future.  :)19:22
davmor2ToyKeeper: NO it won't there is way too much to be getting on with ;)19:22
ToyKeeperAt least 80% of the support load is going away...  but I still have a tendency to get involved in too much at once.19:24
davmor2ToyKeeper: no idea what you mean19:35
davmor2ToyKeeper: have you filed or did you want me too19:36
pmcgowanpopey, happy birthday mate19:42
pmcgowanhes at the pub though ;)19:43
stgraberogra_: came up with a much quicker way to test and debug. adb now spaws on startup, I have a reboot job which waits for the container and as soon as it's there, it does a sysrq-trigger to reboot (shortens the reboot by half)19:45
davmor2pmcgowan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scopes-api/+bug/130280119:45
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1302801 in unity-scopes-api (Ubuntu) "All new scopes are ignoring the privacy setting for Phone only" [Undecided,New]19:45
stgraberogra_: now a whole cycle takes around 20s here19:46
taiebotHey guys i know this is a weird bug but it would be nice if the user experience could be improved just by making some cosmetic changes. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/129599320:00
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1295993 in Ubuntu UX "[ux]Ubuntu touch colour theme is too dark making it unusable in bright sunlight condition" [Undecided,New]20:00
popeypmcgowan: thanks20:14
popeydavmor2: do you know what package te music scope is?20:18
taiebotEuh is there a bug with the app store?20:18
taieboti have very weird suggestions.20:19
AskUbuntuCan I install Ubuntu Touch on a Huawei Ascend P6? | http://askubuntu.com/q/44342720:19
taiebotHas the store been hacked? where are all the apps? i have evil app, fake clock, hammer,  test app20:24
davmor2taiebot: do a search your device just needs to update20:26
davmor2popey unity-scope-mediascanner2 off the top of my head20:27
davmor2taiebot: did that fix it?20:28
taiebotyep why those apps are appearing? are they test apps on my phone?20:28
taiebotsorry the app have reappeared as normal20:29
davmor2no staging apps on the server the wrong db got copied on an update20:29
t1mptaiebot: I want the evil app :)20:30
davmor2t1mp: you can't have the evil app it's evil :-P20:30
taiebotok thanks. Do you know if it safe to upgrade to devel-proposed stuck on 251 for a while now need my daily dose of updates.20:31
* davmor2 goes offline again20:31
t1mptaiebot: I thought devel is 25020:32
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taiebot:) my wrong yep 250 is for devel.20:33
t1mptaiebot: I am running 277 now. Seems ok. In 276 some phones got stuck when rebooting, I don't know if that got fixed for 27720:33
t1mpmaybe it is fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc-android-config/+bug/130217420:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1302174 in cgmanager (Ubuntu) "cgmanager and cgproxy startup is racy" [Medium,Triaged]20:34
t1mpah maybe it is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/130226420:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1302264 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-logind assert failure: error.c:319: Assertion failed in nih_error_get: context_stack != NULL" [Critical,Fix released]20:34
taiebotcan i go back to devel after switching to proposed and will i lose any of my data?20:35
t1mptaiebot: if you are on the phone mailing list, you can read about the bugs in [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 04.04.1420:35
t1mpin theory you can go back, but if you are using the phone for anything else than development I would wait for the next image promoted to devel20:36
t1mpI don't want to be the one that gave you advice that caused you to lose your data ;)20:37
taiebotthanks do you have the command line for the upgrade?20:39
t1mp ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel-proposed20:39
t1mpon your desktop when the phone is connected20:39
t1mpon the phone I don't know20:40
taiebotoups i did it... :-D20:40
t1mpgood luck :)20:40
mhall119does deleting files from /home/phablet/Pictures/ delete cached thumbnails?20:45
mhall119bfiller: ^^20:45
mhall119it doesn't appear to20:45
mhall119mhall@mhall-thinkpad:~/projects/Ubuntu/sdk/coreapps/ubuntu-weather-app$ adb shell ls /home/phablet/.cache/gallery-app/thumbnails/square/ |wc -l20:45
mhall11934920:45
mhall119mhall@mhall-thinkpad:~/projects/Ubuntu/sdk/coreapps/ubuntu-weather-app$ adb shell ls /home/phablet/Pictures/ |wc -l12620:45
mhall119bah, formatting was off20:45
mhall119349 thumbnails, 126 pictures20:46
bfillermhall119: not sure about that20:46
* mhall119 is deperate to find room on his N420:47
mhall119currently I have 195M in .cache20:48
popeymhall119: does this help..  adb shell du -a /home/phablet | sort -n -r | head -n 1020:51
mhall119popey: du -ah /home/phablet | sort -h -r | head -n 10 works better, human-readable sizes FTW20:52
mhall119looks like webbrowser-app caching for all of these webapps is part of my problem too20:53
mhall119which I think I have a bug against already20:54
mhall119but now I can't find it20:55
pmcgowandavmor2, hey I cant get any images to display when I have wifi  off and just cell on21:01
pmcgowanthe data like for apps is there but not icons21:01
pmcgowanand weather scope doesnt finish loading21:01
mhall119pmcgowan: are you sure you have cellular data?21:01
pmcgowanyes becuase browser is happy and snappy21:01
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pmcgowanmy home internet is just 4G anyway, so is the nexus 421:02
pmcgowanshould be the same21:02
mhall119I think the N4 is 3G only21:02
pmcgowancould be21:02
pmcgowananyway browser is wicked fast21:03
pmcgowanand scopes never finish21:03
pmcgowanno icons at all21:03
pmcgowanmhall119, does it do better for you?21:03
mhall119pmcgowan: I'm seeing the same21:04
mhall119on r25021:04
popeyhttp://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2014-04-04-220418.png21:04
popeylike that?21:04
mhall119I have old scopes still21:04
mhall119I wonder if this is a bandwidth saving feature, to not download images over cellular21:05
pmcgowanseems busted21:05
popeyhttp://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2014-04-04-220507.png21:05
mhall119Saviq: ^^21:05
popeyvideos scope21:05
pmcgowanmhall119, yeah its not trying to load them it seems, cause the connection I have is fast21:05
pmcgowanpopey, right, off by default then, -121:06
mhall119well now my click scope is gone completely :(21:07
pmcgowanmhall119, wait 10 secs21:08
pmcgowanknown bug21:08
pmcgowanat least thats fixed in new scopes21:08
* mhall119 has waited more than 10s21:08
pmcgowanok happy hour - later21:08
taiebotHow do i install a click app via adb shell?21:09
popeyadb shell sudo -u phablet pkcon install-local /path/to/file.click21:09
popeyafter adb push file.click /path/to21:10
taiebotthanks21:10
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taiebotHey I would like to try https://github.com/Diogenesthecynic/FullScreenMario on my N4 i have downloaded the folder on my phone how do i make it start?21:37
matv1to anyone interested: I have been running ubuntu touch on  Galaxy Nexus and I have to see that it continued to run  really well on most dailys over the past month. Until today that is..22:15
matv1So just wondering  if anyone else was seeing major issues with build 27722:16
matv1like random reboots, screen going black, lots of flickering22:16
matv1If not, then I guess thats the end of Maguro finally22:17
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