[01:34] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5wez5ccbu23hfwf/IMG_20140404_022303.jpg
[04:42] <mapps> morning
[04:47] <jussi> o/
[04:49] <mapps> cold and raining here..as ever
[04:49] <mapps> ;)
[04:52] <jussi> about -5 and clear blus skies here :)
[04:52] <jussi> blue
[04:54] <mapps> -5s quite cold;(
[04:54] <jussi> nah, not for here. kinda normal :)
[04:55] <jussi> its actually quite nice - very fresh feel when you go out. you just have to dress right...
[04:57] <mapps> ah
[05:00] <mapps> man workahlics is so funny
[05:51] <brdude25> http://tiny.cc/status2
[06:39] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:48] <MartijnVdS> ugh... isc-dhcp-client seems broken in trusty
[07:08] <bashrc> morning
[07:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning all
[07:14] <jussi> hrm, might be more relevant to dicuss this here : http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-14-373_en.htm?locale=en - good news methinks
[07:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> Neelie is a totally awesome woman & politician; and I use awesome as it is supposed to be used.
[07:17] <Myrtti> jussi: not sure if it's great news, apparently Finnish companies will raise the prices and stop offering unlimited data
[07:18] <jussi> Myrtti: hrrr... that sounds actually horrible then
[07:18] <Myrtti> either that, or they go bust and big multinational conglomerates take over
[07:19] <Myrtti> buy the infra so they can offer roaming free of charge, because it's not really roaming
[07:19] <Myrtti> yeah I suspect Finns have more to lose than gain, but other countries the situation might be different
[07:20] <jussi> hrm, yeah - we do have a pretty nice system here at the moment
[07:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> I have a deal with Vodafone here. When I go abroad if I use data roaming they charge me £3 for that 24 hr period. The data limits are as my standard contract, e.g. per month total. Compared to how it used to be that is pretty good.
[07:22] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: that sounds good.. I get a "35MB/day for €2/day" deal from Vodafone-NL whe I'm abroad
[07:22] <MartijnVdS> I have a pay-as-you-go UK SIM to fix that and make it "several GB" ;)
[07:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> Good idea.
[07:23] <Myrtti> jussi: sauce: http://yle.fi/uutiset/operaattorit_roaming-maksujen_poisto_nostaisi_liittymien_hintoja/7172904
[07:24] <Myrtti> other option would be they'd cap the data abroad
[07:48] <Myrtti> DPD is great
[07:50] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: I live on vodafone passport for £3 a day I get the same allowance as back home.Unlmited
[07:51] <TheOpenSourcerer> You "lowra" - How they pronounce Laura in Italy? czajkowski?
[07:51] <TheOpenSourcerer> Should have been "Yo" not you.
[07:52] <TheOpenSourcerer> gah
[07:52] <TheOpenSourcerer> I love Rome. Fantastic city.
[07:53] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: Wome?
[07:53] <TheOpenSourcerer> I give up MartijnVdS
[07:53] <TheOpenSourcerer> I can't type any more. Need a holiday.
[07:53] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: not had a chance to do any sight seeing yet
[07:53] <czajkowski> yah Lowwwraaa
[07:54] <czajkowski> lots of rolling of the letters :)
[07:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oh. Gosh am going on one TOMORROW :-D
[07:54] <czajkowski> it's a bit cooler from what I cna tell today
[07:54] <czajkowski> it was 21 yesterday
[07:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> Lovely.
[07:54] <czajkowski> 17 today and some thuder showers
[08:11] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:11] <bashrc> morning
[08:18] <jussi> I see a lemon merangue pie in my future :D
[08:18]  * bigcalm drools a little
[08:18] <jussi> Meringue even.
[08:18] <jussi> bigcalm: its my birthday, its acceptable :)
[08:19] <jussi> oh, on that note, HAPPY BIRTHDAY popey!!!!
[08:19] <bigcalm> jussi: happy birthday to you and popey then :)
[08:19] <TheOpenSourcerer> Happy birthdays.
[08:19] <jussi> on the down side though, I have a mouth ulcer at the moment :/
[08:21] <jussi> oh wow. this is cool! http://www.universetoday.com/110963/norwegian-skydiver-almost-gets-hit-by-falling-meteor-and-captures-it-on-film/#ixzz2xr4iO129
[08:22] <bashrc> must be fake
[08:22] <jussi> bashrc: don't think so
[08:23] <jussi> “Fireballs entering the atmosphere have been filmed many times,” says Morten Bilet in the video. Bilet is a meteorite expert. “This is unique because it was filmed during its so called “dark flight” – after it has been burned out. That’s never been done before so this is something new and exciting.”
[08:23] <bigcalm> And unlikely to happen again
[08:28] <MartijnVdS> Happy Popey-day! :)
[08:28] <jussi> :(
[08:33] <bashrc> nice
[08:36] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Walk to Work Day! :-D
[08:37] <MartijnVdS> JamesTait: 40km each way?
[08:37] <JamesTait> MartijnVdS, better get on your bike! :-P
[08:37] <nigelb> Happy Birthday jussi, popey
[08:39] <foobarry> MartijnVdS: hello...have a qusetion for u
[08:40] <foobarry> u do full time coding? c++ ?
[08:40] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: ask away
[08:42] <foobarry> ^^
[08:47] <foobarry> MartijnVdS: i am interviewing c++ codes atm and wondered if the questiosn were too hard
[08:52] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: I have no idea about C++; to me all questions are too hard :)
[08:52] <bigcalm> Right, I need help with this router/switch/firewall of mine. Same one as before. Trying to use it again as I need the extra ports.
[08:53] <foobarry> MartijnVdS: woops, i misremembered, sorry
[08:53] <bigcalm> Office365 IMAP is not working in Thunderbird. This is not machine specific as my laptop has the same problem
[08:53] <bigcalm> Where can we start looking?
[08:53] <foobarry> is there anyone who has done plenty c++ that frequents this chan?
[08:53] <foobarry> bigcalm: i "use" TB and IMP and o365
[08:53] <foobarry> shared folders do not work
[08:54] <foobarry> did it work yesterday and break today?
[08:54] <bigcalm> foobarry: it worked just fine with my previous router. It doesn't work with this new one
[08:54] <bigcalm> No, it's never worked with this router
[08:54] <foobarry> its not just o365 being lame?
[08:54] <foobarry> oh
[08:54] <bigcalm> No
[08:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> bigcalm: Errors in the TB Error Console?
[08:54] <bigcalm> As far as I can tell, it's the only thing that doesn't work
[08:55] <bigcalm> TheOpenSourcerer: I didn't know TB had one
[08:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> Tools -> Error Console
[08:56] <bigcalm> Nothing is showing in the error console
[08:57] <bigcalm> When I lick on a folder (including inbox) within the o365 account, TB shows the OSN 'Failed to connect to server ...'
[08:59] <foobarry> don't lick folders
[09:00] <bigcalm> Aww, maybe that's the issue
[09:00] <foobarry> tried using geary mail to test?
[09:01] <bigcalm> No, I'll have a look
[09:03] <bigcalm> Please wait while Geary validates your account.
[09:04] <bigcalm> I have a sneaking suspicion that it'll sit on this screen for a very long time
[09:05] <bigcalm> Thankfully my mobile is able to connect as an exchange account
[09:05] <bigcalm> And the web interface works
[09:09] <bigcalm> Still waiting
[09:10] <bigcalm> What else might I look at in the mean time?
[09:11] <bigcalm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7202411/
[09:13] <bigcalm> Geary finally gave up with: "IMAP connection error." and "SMTP connection error."
[09:14] <bigcalm> If I ssh to my bytemark VPS, I can then telnet to outlook.office365.com 993
[09:15] <bigcalm> I can't even do mtr outlook.office365.com
[09:18] <popey> thanks for the birthday wishes! :D
[09:19] <bigcalm> popey: how young are you now?
[09:20] <popey> Best age.
[09:20] <popey> 42
[09:20]  * popey goes outside to fly is new quadcopter :D
[09:20] <popey> ttfn
[09:21] <bigcalm> Sweet
[09:26] <foobarry> Could not find gem 'liquid (~> 2.4.1) ruby' in the gems available on this machine. (Bundler::GemNotFound)
[09:26] <foobarry> i've done sudo gem install liquid but still no joy, any ideas?
[09:27] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:37] <jussi> where is christel when you need her... http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=66d_1394803929#d0fagfg4svVvQD9H.01 :D
[09:48] <dwatkins> I don't see what's special about that, although they did laugh a lot.
[09:48] <ali1234> well that they find him amusing probably indicates they don't have to deal with 20 people like that every night
[09:49] <ali1234> it would get old fast
[09:49] <dwatkins> indeed, ali1234
[09:52] <MooDoo> hello all
[09:55] <BigRedS> Gooood Morning!
[09:55] <MooDoo> morning BigRedS
[09:59] <MooDoo> brobostigon: belated, morning
[09:59] <BigRedS> MooDoo Ah, morning! How's things?
[10:00] <MooDoo> BigRedS: yeah ok thanks, everything running trusty with no issues, all going ok at the moment :D
[10:00] <MooDoo> you?
[10:00] <BigRedS> Not bad; I've dropped in at my mum's to work today 'cause I miss the cats
[10:00] <BigRedS> so I'm probably not getting any work done today
[10:00] <BigRedS> there's cat hair *everywhere*
[10:00] <MooDoo> lol
[10:02] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[10:02] <MooDoo> how are you brobostigon
[10:02] <brobostigon> MooDoo: not bad, and you?
[10:03] <MooDoo> brobostigon: it's friday I'm at home so ok :D
[10:03] <brobostigon> MooDoo: :)
[10:24] <jussi> any skateboard peoples here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm8kb3kQ3co :D
[10:25] <MooDoo> that's not a skateboard lol
[10:27] <jussi> MooDoo: :D
[10:28] <bigcalm> I need to go out and buy an 8 port unmanaged switch today. Which of these do people rate? http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/search-keywords/xx_xx_xx_xx_xx/8+port+switch/xx-criteria.html
[10:30] <BigRedS> I'd assumed that's the sort of thing people don't really get wrong any more
[10:34] <BigRedS> (but I'd generally default to netgear, though I've not been very near commodity kit for a few years)
[10:35] <MooDoo> yeah I'm with netgear, although my new router is asus
[10:38] <davmor2> Something for the weekend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk5zxA9UP2Q
[10:42] <bigcalm> I'm having such an annoying time with this netgear firewall switch router thing, that I'm going to go back to my previous netgear router that _works_ and give myself more ports by plugging in an unmanaged switch
[10:45] <bigcalm> davmor2: 2 chellos, 1 bow?
[10:46] <davmor2> bigcalm: there is 2cellos play 1 cello
[10:47] <davmor2> but this is a full concert that they did voodoo people is gob smacking
[10:49] <MooDoo> davmor2: I like that acdc song they did
[10:50] <davmor2> MooDoo: this is the full concert there are some amazing covers in it :)
[10:50] <jussi> so, "poverty is a great inventor" is quite true sometimes
[10:53] <jussi> I had some leftover lasagne sheets (we pre boil them a bit to make making lasagne faster). the made layers with them, cheese, sliced processed ham, some spices and herbs and whacked it in the oven. worked suprisingly well
[11:44] <jussi> I should share this with you all as well.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts#t=24 - bringing back a 90's classic :D
[11:46] <MartijnVdS> jussi: in your head.
[11:46] <jussi> MartijnVdS: Zombie!
[12:08] <foobarry> brendan eich has a very strong lens in the left eye of his glasses
[12:08] <MartijnVdS> lens.. or scope?
[12:19] <davmor2> jussi: only if we can have this too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwlogyj7nFE
[12:52]  * foobarry is being awesome with redmine
[12:58] <MartijnVdS> redmine? is that where you mine redstone?
[13:10] <foobarry> yes
[13:10] <foobarry> *no
[13:22] <BigRedS> My opinion of redmine's changed a bit recently. I think it's the acceptable face of RoR stuff now
[13:24] <foobarry> i installed the crm plugins and calendar ics export
[13:26] <foobarry> turning the awesome up to 11
[13:34] <SuperEngineer> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26887186#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa  [lostforwords]
[15:20] <mapps> so 3 ip changes in a week
[15:20] <mapps> pesky sky...and it seems to be disconnecting a lot
[18:18] <daftykins> yet another round of daftykins pics are here...
[18:18] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t9k926qw7iq5pp5/UTKUzmXzQN
[18:18] <daftykins> this time, it's two of Condor's ferries, one coming into the harbour and spinning around to dock :)
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: nice
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> better weather than last time too
[18:19] <daftykins> :) was about 12-14 deg C today
[18:29] <popey> Evening all!
[18:30] <bigcalm> Morning popey
[18:31] <bigcalm> popey: good birthday?
[18:31] <popey> Ya!
[18:31] <popey> toys to play with
[18:31] <popey> always a winner
[18:35] <bigcalm> Toys are fun :)
[18:35] <popey> ya!
[18:35] <bigcalm> Time to drive to the parents' for the weekend
[18:35] <bigcalm> Toodles
[18:35] <popey> o/
[18:44] <davmor2> popey: hippo birdy dude
[18:45] <davmor2> popey: don't look at the click store
[18:46] <davmor2> popey: infact you can now
[19:00] <popey> davmor2: eh?
[19:00] <popey> davmor2: i approved music..
[19:01] <davmor2> no popey they had a roll out and managed to not spot that they had synced the db from staging to production oops :)
[19:01] <davmor2> popey: fixed now though :)
[19:02] <popey> hahah
[19:02] <popey> plums
[19:04] <diplo> evening all
[19:10] <daftykins> hi diplo
[19:12] <davmor2> popey: this is why rollouts on a friday are a bad thing right :)
[19:33] <foobarry> on read-only friday?
[19:46] <foobarry> nationwidebank utter fail tonight
[19:47] <daftykins> foobarry: ooh?
[19:51] <foobarry> keeps showing error messages randomly
[19:51] <foobarry> general error
[19:51] <foobarry> must be cos it's ISA night
[19:57] <foobarry> how do the card readers work?
[19:57] <foobarry> bit like rsa tokens?
[20:05] <daftykins> varies so much between banks
[20:05] <daftykins> the natwest ones i have just apply the same process after checking PIN
[20:05] <daftykins> whereas friends with HSBC can only login using theirs
[22:13] <diddledan> windows phone's cortana looks pretty nifty
[22:13] <diddledan> I feel dirty saying that though
[22:22] <diddledan> in other news, halo's cortana is sexy