[00:12] <Fudge> lulz:  dhclient?
[00:13] <Fudge> isc-dhcp-client
[00:14] <lulz> yeah
[00:14] <lulz> broken packaged issue. new update for synaptic is def buggy though. works
[00:14] <lulz> but a lot of the fonts etc like vanish and reappear
[00:14] <lulz> but sure it won't last for long heh
[01:46] <STiK> Ahhh.. Sound is back :)
[01:55] <asdasd> Anyone
[01:55] <asdasd> Anyone's fglrx driver stopped working with the latest updates?
[02:53] <GZA-Genius> for give me for the dumb question but can i have the link to submit/search for 14.04 bugs
[03:55] <roctawser> I am using ubuntu 14.04 beta 2.  Whenever I do a software update, I get the message that a "partial upgrade" is available.  Have other people reported the same thing?
[03:56] <nonuby> can someone running a clean xubuntu/xfce 14.04 pastebin the output of pstree, Im trying to determine what baggage from a unity gui being paved with xubuntu-desktop on a ubuntu 14.04 install
[03:57] <asdasd> roctawser: just perform the partial upgrade. it will get you the latest version and the message will no longer show
[03:58] <roctawser> asdasd, i did that yesterday, and it completely broke my system.  had to reinstall everything.
[03:59] <asdasd> there appears to be a bug in the latest updates
[03:59] <asdasd> I lost my graphics driver to it
[03:59] <roctawser> OK.  I was wondering if it was just me, or other people were having issues.
[04:00] <asdasd> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1302771
[04:00] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1302771 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel Update 3.13.0-22 Deletes Desktop Manager and /etc/X11/xorg.conf file" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[04:00] <asdasd> does this match what you were seeing?
[04:02] <roctawser> Yes.  After doing the partial upgrade, the desktop was unstable to the point of being almost useless.
[04:03] <asdasd> which type of graphics card do you have?
[04:04] <roctawser> ati radeon
[04:04] <asdasd> model?
[04:04] <Fudge> any ideas why my windows drive is not being found in grub uefi
[04:05] <Fudge> ideas plz :D
[04:05] <asdasd> I'm sure your X server went back to Mesa drivers
[04:05] <roctawser> but i was upgrading a 2nd computer simultaneously and it was destroyed at the same time with the very same problems.
[04:05] <asdasd> that is what happened to me, even though FGLRX was still installed and loaded in the kernel
[04:05] <asdasd> my laptop with Intel 4000 graphics still works fine after the update
[04:06] <Fudge> yeah this morning/ last night my system fell over as a partial upgrade broke isc-dhcp-client
[04:06] <asdasd> dhcp was also broken for me, yes
[04:06] <asdasd> but I believe that is fixed now
[04:06] <asdasd> but the graphics issue is still there
[04:06] <asdasd> please vote for the bug and add your findings
[04:07] <roctawser> Well I did a clean install and i'm definitely afraid to do another partial upgrade until i know it's safe.
[04:07] <Fudge> it is not effe4cting me sorry
[04:07] <Fudge> effecting
[04:07] <Fudge> have you tried a vanilla useR?
[04:07] <asdasd> roctawser: well, you're using a beta, right? ;)
[04:08] <roctawser> yes, i am.  hey, i love ubuntu and and never wait for the final releases.
[04:08] <asdasd> roctawser: I'm sure they'll fix it soon
[04:08] <asdasd> roctawser: please vote for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1302771 so that it becomes more visible
[04:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1302771 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel Update 3.13.0-22 Deletes Desktop Manager and /etc/X11/xorg.conf file" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[04:09] <roctawser> I'm sure they will.  Just wanted to know I wasn't going crazy.  lol
[04:09] <asdasd> No, it's just a broken beta unfortunately.
[04:09] <asdasd> Otherwise 14.04 is great
[04:10] <roctawser> Yes, I agree!
[04:13] <Fudge> only thing not working correctly here now is network manager, but dhclient works
[04:16] <Fudge> how sad is this!!! Fetched 22.1 MB in 16min 7s (22.8 kB/s)
[04:44] <donofrio_> help, not video question this time
[04:44] <donofrio_> its an applicationn called teamviewer
[04:44] <donofrio_> works great as 12.04 setup
[04:45] <donofrio_> once update-manager -d finishes and all is well it's no loner running "unattened" and states that I need to run teamviewer --daemon start
[04:46] <donofrio_> keep in context this was working perfectly till the upgrade (just saying - I mean the remote session even worked though reboots)
[04:51] <donofrio_> anyone have any thoughts?
[05:10] <Fudge> start with apt-get changelog for the app and see i fyou see where it is now probably using systemd
[05:18] <henryC> kubuntu 14.04 since alpha, sound cut out in the 6 hours since I left my house.  Only "dummy output".  Anybody?
[05:18] <henryC> I mean updated daily since alpha
[05:21] <GZA-Genius> my sound stops working sometimes
[05:22] <GZA-Genius> and if u go to the sound setting and just click on th device it will come back on
[05:26] <Fudge> henrik:  is that a record message from speech dispatcher?>
[05:37] <henryC> your new kernel stuck me with "dummy output" only.  Using UCA202 usb soundcard, but all soundcards were eliminated.  Please give advance notice when this kind of thing can take lives.
[06:59] <weena> any idea why a system wouldnt hibernate? sudo pm-hibernate returns no errors. the swap is only slightly smaller than the ram but the ram usage is nowhere near the size of the swap
[07:00] <weena> theyre virtually the same size
[07:41] <krissi> Hello, I just installed kubuntu 14.04 and i can't find my mic in audio setup
[08:01] <`Fibz``> if you open a terminal and type "alsamixer"  you can control the gain/volume.  havent used kubuntu in a while so thats about all the help i can provide
[08:18] <kubuntu_beta> Hello
[08:18] <kubuntu_beta>  can the beta be installed within in windows?
[08:22] <`Fibz``> i know it works in virtualbox
[08:23] <kubuntu_beta> Yes but I need it to run a virtualbox in
[08:23] <kubuntu_beta> Actually.
[08:23] <kubuntu_beta> I may be able to get around it
[08:23] <kubuntu_beta>  Let me see
[08:23] <elfy> I'm fairly sure there is no wubi anymore
[08:25] <kubuntu_beta> elfy: Why?
[08:27] <`Fibz``> just to be clear, i meant VirtualBox, a virtual machine product by Oracle
[08:28] <kubuntu_beta_> `Fibz``: Yeah Got you
[08:29] <kubuntu_beta_> elfy: Sorry if you gave me a response to the Why. My Internet just burped
[08:30] <`Fibz``> nope
[08:30] <elfy> kubuntu_beta_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-March/034970.html
[08:30] <elfy> was looking for it :)
[08:31] <elfy> there is other stuff on the mailing lists I'm sure
[08:31] <kubuntu_beta_> somehow I knew the response was going to involve Windows 8
[08:34] <`Fibz``> i'd rather just run in VirtualBox anyway
[08:36] <kubuntu_beta_> If I could find a copy of Windows 8 that's where I'd like to run it as well :)
[08:36] <elfy> `Fibz``: yep - +1 to that
[08:36] <elfy> not sure why people thought wubi was some sort of permanent solution - was never meant to be that
[08:36] <`Fibz``> it should have had a 30 day trial limit or something
[08:37] <elfy> yea
[08:37] <elfy> used it once just to see
[08:37] <`Fibz``> but that would turn too many people off which is the opposite of what wubi was ment to do
[08:37] <elfy> yep
[08:37] <elfy> anyway - it's gone now afaik
[09:38] <Fudge> any tips on speeding up gnome-shell to perform more like unity-2d
[09:38] <bekks> Fudge: Replace it with Unity ;)
[09:38] <Fudge> unity is slower
[09:38] <Fudge> as it is one huge executable
[09:53] <DJones> Ah well, thats always a bonus, 200Mb of updates & the system reboots without issue
[10:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:10] <Fudge> yay
[10:10] <Fudge> lordievader:  ehlo
[10:11] <lordievader> Hey Fudge, how are you doing?
[10:12] <justin_________> hi guys
[10:12] <justin_________> where is the clock normally on the right-hand top side for ubuntu 14.04?
[10:19] <DJones> justin_________: I've got a clock in my top right on default ubuntu
[10:21] <justin_________> weird
[10:21] <justin_________> ta
[10:23] <Fudge> lordievader:  good here mate, accept my isp is being slammed by packets
[10:23] <lordievader> Fudge: Resulting in a slow internet? Bummer.
[10:24] <dava_> hi guys
[10:25] <dava_> in compiz window placement center giving me issue
[10:25] <Fudge> yep on an already slow adsl speed lordievader
[10:26] <dava_> in 14.04
[10:28] <dava_> windows are opening under the top panel
[10:41] <Meerkat> My lubuntu 14.04 VM stopped working. When I boot it says "error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found Entering rescue mode..." What is this about? known bug?
[10:58] <rigved> hello everyone
[10:59] <rigved> i'm using ubuntu 12.04 and upgrading to 14.04 currently
[11:00] <rigved> in the "Updates" tab in software sources, if I select "For any new versions", the upgrade tool offers 12.10. Shouldn't it be offering Ubuntu 14.04 or will this only happen after 14.04 is released?
[11:02] <dava_> I am getting this error scanimage: error while loading shared libraries: libusb-0.1.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:02] <dava_> when I do scanimage -L
[11:03] <Meerkat> rigved, 14.04 will only be suggested when it is released. 17th of april.
[11:04] <dava_> anyone I am using 14.04
[11:05] <rigved> Meerkat: ok thanks
[11:06] <bekks> rigved: since 14.04 isnt released yet, you can use "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[11:07] <rigved> bekks: cool. i am running through the QA ISO tracker testcases and used the command suggested there: update-manager -d -c
[11:07] <rigved> i guess it does the same thing
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:40] <bekks> rigved: What are the "QA ISO tracker testcases"?
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[12:52] <LjL> is KDE Active (kubuntu-active package) supposed to work at all in the current beta2? i get a blank X screen, am not sure where it's failing, and i imagined maybe it was confused due to having other -desktop metapackages installed, but not sure
[12:59] <rigved> bekks: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[13:13] <niveklee> anyone know what up with samba in 14.04?  I was able to modify the config files to get windows machines to connect to the server in which I can add/remove files from but cannot execute an exe from tells me I don't have permissions.. any ideas?
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[15:20] <donmarquis> Hey how can i upgrade from saucy to trusty
[15:22] <majod> hi. anyone else experiencing issues when installing .deb from software center?
[15:23] <lordievader> donmarquis: Till the release that isn't recommended, but the command is: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[15:23] <majod> with 2 completely different .debs i end with "package operation failed"...when installing with dpkg -i, it goes successfuly
[15:24] <donmarquis> ok but why do it get Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[15:24] <donmarquis> No new release found
[15:25] <lordievader> donmarquis: Seems to me he doesn't show/look for development releases. Since his statement is correct ;) Your system is up to date?
[15:26] <donmarquis> yes
[15:26] <donmarquis> i did an update and a dist-upgrade
[15:46] <bekks> rigved: Do you think I can somehow attach https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kickseed/+bug/1302529 to the QA ISO testcases?
[15:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1302529 in kickseed (Ubuntu) "grub2 installation fails on 14.04 kickstart installation" [Undecided,New]
[15:53] <optrusty> hi guys I want to install offical java on ubuntu
[15:54] <bekks> !java > optrusty
[15:54] <ubottu> optrusty, please see my private message
[15:57] <optrusty> !java > bekks
[15:57] <ubottu> bekks, please see my private message
[15:57] <bekks> optrusty: You should read the links given - java is running fine for me ;)
[15:57] <optrusty> !libc > optrusty
[15:58] <optrusty> ok
[15:58] <optrusty> !lua > optrusty
[16:00] <optrusty> !ubuntu > optrusty
[16:00] <ubottu> optrusty, please see my private message
[16:08] <rigved> bekks: yes. just click on the correct product from this list: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds , click on the testcase and fill in the form on the test result page (filling in the bug number in the Bugs field there)
[16:11] <rigved> bekks: based on the bug report, the testcase would be something like "http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/66042/testcases/1413/results" or "http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/66044/testcases/1413/results", depending on whether you have tested on an amd64 or i386 machine
[16:11] <rigved> hope that helps. bye
[16:15] <shinka> I have no problem setting new keyboard shortcurts on Ubuntu GNOME but it just doesn't work on Ubuntu (Unity). I just added SUPER+T in the custom shortcuts to launch the terminal and when I press it: it opens the trash. Funny thing: I cannot even find the rule to launch the terminal on SUPER+T in the list of shortcuts. I'm on 14.04.
[17:18] <trism> vice__: what's the error? I just rebuilt the package fine
[17:19] <vice__> Hello! First: I know that I am using unstable sources. I have been trying to compile signon-ui_0.16+14.04.20140304.is.0.15+14.04.20140313.orig.tar.gz  when a ERROR occured. There's a qt5 project file missing. Maybe somebody forgot to include it? Here's the output: https://dpaste.de/nRzZ I haven't filled a bug report because I am on gentoo linux and maybe I am missing a dep.
[17:22] <vice__> trism, Did you get any useful information from the build output?
[17:29] <trism> vice__: looking where it is failing, it seems like the: test -e Makefile is failing, do you not get a makefile after running qmake?
[17:44] <trism> vice__: hmm actually the po/Makefile is in the tarball, so weird
[17:46] <vice__> trism, I added the following deps: 	dev-qt/qtquick1	dev-qt/qtquickcontrols	dev-qt/qtwidgets	dev-qt/qttest
[17:47] <trism> vice__: did it help?
[17:47] <vice__> Now I am compiling them. Not finished yet
[17:48] <trism> vice__: I'm not sure it will because your compile is failing on the first command: cd po/ && (test -e Makefile || qmake po.pro), on trying to qmake po.pro which doesn't exist, since the Makefile is there
[17:49] <trism> vice__: I would try to build the package by hand to see if you can figure out what's going wrong before using the gentoo scripts
[17:49] <vice__> trism, How are you compiling it by hand?
[17:50] <trism> vice__: just extract the tarball, run: qmake; then make
[17:54] <Elvanor> Where can I get a kernel 3.14 image for use with the Ubuntu boot image?
[17:58] <bekks> Elvanor: There is none.
[17:59] <bekks> !mainline > Elvanor
[17:59] <ubottu> Elvanor, please see my private message
[18:00] <vice__> trism, It worked that way. But it seems that its compiled with qt4?
[18:03] <trism> vice__: there is an environment variable you can pass to select the version when running qmake but I can't seem to remember it
[18:04] <trism> mines building with qt5 but I don't have any qt4 installed
[18:06] <vice__> I did that qmake with qt4. now i am trying with qt5..
[18:07] <trism> vice__: ahh it is QT_SELECT=qt5 at least on ubuntu
[18:13] <vice__> Builded well with qt5 too.
[18:42] <vice__> trism thank you very much
[18:43] <vice__> But i am not insane enough to install this package with make install :D
[18:45] <trism> vice__: that wasn't my intention, just to check if there was a more general problem, since it builds manually the issue must be with whatever build scripts you are using
[18:45] <trism> vice__: maybe something is cleaning the Makefiles out of the source before building
[18:46] <trism> vice__: I haven't used gentoo for 10 years so I couldn't really say what
[19:05] <rdz> hey all. updating shared-mime-info always takes minutes when reaching: "unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'"
[19:06] <rdz> the disk is fully busy, although it's an SSD
[19:06] <rdz> and: I found that /tmp is not writable by everybody. is that on purpose?
[19:17] <Rounin> Hello! I was here yesterday or the day before asking about a bug... Now I see that it's been reported by a good few people and set to "Fix released", but it isn't fixed... Is there any way of reopening it without submitting a new one?
[19:18] <Rounin> In Launchpad
[19:18] <Rounin> Basically one gets a kernel panic when trying to install or update libc
[19:18] <Rounin> Which is inconvenient
[19:20] <trism> Rounin: what bug number?
[19:21] <Rounin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1269731
[19:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1269731 in upstart (Ubuntu) "init crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Fix released]
[19:21] <Rounin> Though the actual bug is in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1269405 , https://bugs.launchpad.net/eglibc/+bug/1269483 , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1269500 , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1269669 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1271440
[19:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1269731 in upstart (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1269405 init crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Fix released]
[19:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1269731 in upstart (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1269483 init crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Fix released]
[19:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1269731 in upstart (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1269500 init crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Fix released]
[19:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1269731 in upstart (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1269669 init crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Fix released]
[19:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1269731 in upstart (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1271440 init crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Fix released]
[19:22] <Rounin> It seems like they may have fixed this related bug that they're set as duplicates of without fixing the whole bug
[19:23] <trism> Rounin: you should probably file a new bug, the latest dup for that one is from january
[19:25] <Rounin> trism: I see! Off to the Launchpad then
[19:36] <sydneyJDykstra> Why does the ubuntu live cd use nouveau drivers? Is there any way I can use it with the regular drivers?
[19:40] <penguin42> !schedule
[19:40] <ubottu> A schedule of Trusty Tahr (14.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[19:40] <penguin42> ah still a couple of weeks left
[20:35] <vice__> how can I completely reset compiz to defaults on trusty?
[21:32] <amblin> vice__: I've used http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[22:18] <c_korn> hello, can't I install i386 and amd64 versions of libgl1-mesa-glx parallel like in saucy?
[22:23] <c_korn> this is the error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7209881/
[22:28] <trism> c_korn: try installing libudev1:i386 to see that error, it is installing fine here
[22:28] <c_korn> trism: this is the error now: libudev1:i386 : Depends: libcgmanager0:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[22:29] <trism> c_korn: you generally need to follow the chain until you get an actual reason
[22:30] <trism> ha though you did just help me reproduce my bug on the 3.14 kernel
[22:30] <c_korn> trism: seems like libcgmanager0:i386 is the reason http://paste.ubuntu.com/7209902/
[22:30] <majod> i cant install any .deb with the software center...always ends with "package operation failed", with dpkg everything installs fine
[22:32] <c_korn> majod: hum, just did a quick google search: maybe this helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/54851/package-operation-failed-when-installing-software
[22:33] <majod> well there isnt actually any solution on the page...
[22:33] <majod> also, in the "details" i see absolutely no errors
[22:55] <trism> c_korn: I'm guessing it is because it is removing libudev1:amd64
[22:55] <trism> c_korn: though I'm not sure why, did run apt-get update recently? maybe there is a strange conflict going on
[22:57] <trism> c_korn: you could always try adding -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes to the apt-get line to see the detailed reasons for the selections but it can be alot to go through
[22:57] <c_korn> trism: just updated. same problem. maybe I just have to wait
[23:02] <c_korn> trism: ah, seems my german mirror was out of sync. took the main server and the problem is gone now. sorry for the noise.
[23:02] <trism> c_korn: np glad it is working now
[23:02] <c_korn> trism: and thanks of course. but at least it helped to reproduce your kernel bug
[23:14] <vice__> trism,  had to specify QT5_BUILD_DIR="${S}" QT5's build system has a bug where shadow building doesn't work, but the qt5-build.eclass from 'qt' overlay is a tangled web of shadow building (it actually casts two shadows) it was only recently picked up by the QT guys as everything would seem normal and build ok, but some include files it generates are corrupt
[23:22] <trism> vice__: right, I should have thought of that, broken out-of-tree build, bug pops right up when I try it
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[23:25] <optrusty> hey guys i want to know how's the beta of 14.04
[23:27] <Beldar> optrusty, What is it you want to hear?
[23:28] <optrusty> like is it stable enough to run on daul boot and uefi
[23:28] <k1l> its more stable that you think but it will break when you need a stable system for some important work
[23:29] <optrusty> I am running windows server so I dont want something to happen
[23:29] <Beldar> no pne does be prepared for any scenario
[23:29] <Beldar> one*
[23:30] <sultanselephant> I WRECKED MY PC BECAUSE I DOWNLOADED THE BETA AND INSTALLED IT WIPING OVER WINDOWS AND NOW IM SUING CANONICAL
[23:30] <sultanselephant> jk heya #ubuntu+1
[23:31] <sultanselephant> did they figure out 14.10's name yet
[23:31] <k1l> i bet sultanselephant didnt read the red blinking signs where it says beta ;p
[23:31] <k1l> sultanselephant: no, expect it some time after the release of trusty
[23:32] <sultanselephant> apparently
[23:32] <sultanselephant> there are only 3 mammals
[23:32] <sultanselephant> beginning with a u
[23:33] <Daekdroom> It doesn't have to be a mammal.
[23:33] <sultanselephant> o
[23:33] <sultanselephant> i meant animal
[23:34] <sultanselephant> didnt pass kindergarten
[23:34] <sultanselephant> http://a-z-animals.com/animals/pictures/U/
[23:34] <sultanselephant> thats it! a-z animals has the scoop
[23:35] <sultanselephant> ubuntu 14.10 undulating uguisu
[23:35] <jtaylor> it doesn't have to be an animal either, its just always been up to know
[23:36] <Beldar> I saw a handful of bacterium, that's the....er next pool
[23:36] <sultanselephant> uppity uakari
[23:37] <sultanselephant> canonical's got the animals. androids got the sweets. wordpress has the jazz musicians. apple has the safari animals. linux mint has names of strippers.
[23:51] <jjavaholic_> will it be possible to switch the min, max, close to the right in this LTS?
[23:53] <sultanselephant> jjavaholic_: if you mean the position of buttons on windows yeah you can do that
[23:53] <jjavaholic_> how?