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Kilosmorning JabberwockyA19  nlsthzn  and others06:25
nlsthzno/06:25
nlsthznrugby time again uncle Kilos 06:26
nlsthznpity about the protea's yesterday too06:26
Kilosyeah they got carrotted06:27
* nlsthzn is not sure what that means06:27
Kilosoh if you give someone carrots you give him a hard time06:28
Kilosmaybe thats not used anymore06:28
nlsthznah ok06:29
nlsthznperhaps I just never heard anyone use it06:29
Kilosgive him carrots or give him gears we used to say06:29
nlsthznI was born after the discovery of the wheel06:29
Kilosroflmao06:29
nlsthzngee hom gas06:29
Kilosja daai ding06:29
nlsthzn:)06:29
Kilossee now i gotta support the bulls06:33
Kilosthey look weird in green06:33
nlsthznpainful06:33
nlsthznthey are in green?06:33
Kiloslemme look again06:34
nlsthzndress rehearsal for the boks later I guess :p06:34
Kilosya kinda green camo effect06:35
nlsthznguess they need all the help they can get06:36
Kiloswhew shocking so far07:06
nlsthznsounds that way07:12
nlsthznwell a try just before half-time keeps the hopes alive07:16
Kilosoh my07:16
nlsthznoh my?07:17
Kilosthey struggle without matfields guidance07:17
nlsthznwho is captain?07:18
Kilossome oke in funny green camo07:18
Kiloshehe07:18
nlsthzn>.<07:18
KilosTara: Flip I think07:19
nlsthznhmmm07:19
nlsthznthanks uncle Kilos / Tara07:20
Kiloslol07:20
Kilosshe knows more about whats happening than i do07:20
nlsthznthan us both :)07:21
Kilosbulls musta got some stick half time08:02
nlsthznlooking slightly better?08:03
Kilosyeah08:03
nlsthznoh  I see now there was a try08:04
nlsthznreading rugby sucks\08:04
Kilosyeah08:04
Kilosbut they seem a bit more organised too08:04
nlsthznif we can win this game I will be impressed, they have already won more games this year than I expected to be honest08:05
Kilosthey getting thing together. started very bad this year08:06
nlsthzna number of our teams got off to bad starts 08:08
nlsthznwhich isn't new I guess :/08:08
Kilosyeah except of course my team08:08
nlsthznlol08:08
nlsthznI guess08:08
nlsthznthen again they have lost against the bulls so that doesn't bode well for them08:09
Kilossob08:09
nlsthzn;)08:10
Kilosmin time and 2 points behind08:12
Kilosdunno why the scrumm failing08:13
Kilosmatfield there in suit and tie08:14
nlsthzn:(08:15
nlsthznguess we loose with 2 points, so close08:15
nlsthznand if he is there he could have been playing??!!!?!?08:15
Kilos1 min left but scrum08:16
Kilossigh08:16
Kilospoor show08:16
nlsthznoh well08:21
nlsthznbbl08:21
Kilosk08:21
Kiloshmm... jabber.org be sicker09:21
KilosMaaz  is jabber.org down09:29
KilosMaaz  you here?09:36
MaazWell duh!09:36
KilosMaaz  is http://www.jabber.org/ down09:36
Kiloshi charl_  09:37
charl_good morning09:37
charl_Maaz: coffee on09:37
* Maaz starts grinding coffee09:37
charl_hi Kilos 09:37
KilosMaaz  coffee please09:37
MaazKilos: Done09:37
charl_jabber broken?09:38
Kilosyeah on my pidgin09:38
charl_i can access the site from here09:38
Kiloswith what link charl_  ?09:38
charl_the one above09:38
charl_http://www.jabber.org/09:39
Kilosi get there but its just a story kinda about jabber09:39
charl_the site got simplified a lot09:39
charl_just like swissjabber.ch09:39
charl_http://www.swissjabber.ch/09:39
Kilosno login buttons or so on09:39
charl_no09:40
charl_jabber servers are known for going down frequently09:40
charl_i now run my own jabber server - much better09:40
charl_jabber.ccc.de also goes down frequently09:40
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos!09:41
charl_http://web.jabber.ccc.de/09:41
charl_Maaz: thanks09:41
Maazcharl_: Sure09:41
KilosMaaz  ty09:41
MaazYou are welcome Kilos09:41
Kilosso how do you rev them to fix it09:42
charl_it's a free service, afaik not much you can do09:42
charl_you have a shell account? you can also run your own jabber server if you want09:42
charl_it's extremely simple09:42
Kiloswith the same info?09:43
Kiloslike im kilos@jabber.org09:43
charl_no you will get a new JID (jabber ID)09:43
charl_because @jabber.org is linked to the server(s) at jabber.org09:43
charl_so you get kilos@whatever-your-server-is09:43
Kilosno man thats too much. i have gmail accounts09:44
charl_ah, with gtalk09:44
charl_as long as that still works it is a good backup09:45
charl_although afaik google wants to cancel that service09:45
Kilosya i got 4 gmail accounts i think09:46
charl_lol09:46
Kilosdunno what to do with everything09:46
Kilosand 1 yahoo and 1 hotmail.com and 1 live.com09:47
Kiloswhew09:47
Kilosjabber fixed again10:16
Kilosyay10:16
JabberwockyA19good afternoon Kilos11:56
* JabberwockyA19 is fixed too now11:57
charl_hi JabberwockyA19 11:59
Kiloshaha12:06
Symmetriahttps://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10245352_10152343328660681_4825273528210417881_n.jpg14:30
SymmetriaI caight a decent size fishie for once14:30
Kiloslekker14:48
charl_WHOW!15:04
charl_no kidding man15:04
charl_Symmetria: you gonna have a huge party just to eat that thing ?15:05
Symmetriacharl heh the hotel cooked it up and we ate it with the other guests15:06
charl_lol15:06
Symmetria;p it was consellation after I totalled my company car yesterday15:06
charl_totalled?15:06
charl_oh i had to google it but it seems like totalled can mean you had to write off a car ...15:07
charl_man that sucks :(15:07
Symmetriayah15:07
Symmetriaheh flipped it 15:08
charl_flipped how the heck did you do that15:08
charl_i know the roads in nairobi can be bad but ...15:08
Symmetriablew a tyre out on a dirt road 15:08
Symmetrialost control when I did and went into a 2 foot deep ditch15:08
charl_oh i see... ok15:08
Symmetriaas the car went into the ditch it flipped15:08
charl_yeah ok that's understandable15:08
charl_it can happen15:08
Symmetriaend of my nice pretty prado :(15:08
charl_whow it's a 4x4 type thing ?15:09
charl_googled once again :)15:09
Symmetriayeah15:09
charl_whow that is a big car to flip15:09
Symmetriapricey suv 15:09
charl_but i guess it's a little top heavy so it can happen15:09
charl_you would expect a car like that to be good on such a road15:10
Symmetriaheh they are but the problem with any 4x4, if you blow a tyre 15:10
Symmetriathe back wheels keep moving and push you into a spin15:10
Symmetriaspinning out a 4x4 if you have a serious problem on one of the wheels isnt that hard if one of them digs in15:11
charl_bah15:14
charl_i get it15:14
Kiloshi superfly  Trixar_za  and others19:04
Trixar_zaHey Kilos19:06
Trixar_zaKilos: What if I make a pre-libusb-1.x version?19:06
Kilosexplain please?19:06
Trixar_zaThe newer sakis3g uses the usb-modeswitch 2.x and up19:07
Trixar_zaWhich uses libusb-1.x and up instead of the old libusb-0.1x19:07
Kilosoh19:08
Trixar_zaYou said you can't connect with the current sakis3g, so I'll make one that's before the move to the newer library19:08
Kilosdo you know what these modems actually do19:08
Kiloslike this dlink doesnt seem to trigger modeswitch19:09
Kilosbut sometimes pluggin in a second modem at the same time triggers modeswitch then nm sees both19:09
Kilosalmost as if there is something missing from the modems side19:10
Trixar_zaTry http://trixarian.net/sakis3g-old.gz19:11
Kilosok will do19:12
Kilosty19:12
Trixar_zaIt's the one compiled with usb-modeswitch 1.2.7 (the last pre-libusb-0.1x version) and the current database19:12
Trixar_zapre-libusb-1.x*19:13
Trixar_zaWhich is why I left compile.old around :P19:14
Kilosok19:14
Kilosalso19:15
Kiloslisten nicely now19:15
Kilosi have unity on a 80g drive that sees the modem after whatever i did when i got the thing19:16
Kilosi have kde on this drive19:16
Kilosif i unplug the modem and reboot too kde first it dont see the modem19:16
Trixar_zaI heard you. My guess would be that the dlink doesn't send a proper signal that alerts usb-modeswitch that it needs to be switched. But when you put in the second device, it does send the signal and both get picked up for switching.19:17
Kilosif i boot to the 80g it sees the modem then i can reboot to kde and it sees it19:17
Trixar_zaI'd stick with the bad signal guess19:18
Kilosalso if there is a power cut kde dont see it19:19
Kiloswhat signal is bad19:19
Kilosim trying to work out what signals what19:19
Kilosis it a faulty modem?19:20
Trixar_zaCould be a mix between faulty modem and faulty usb ports19:21
Trixar_zaMaybe even the Linux kernel not picking things up properly19:21
Kiloswhew19:21
Trixar_zaIf I had more devices to test, I would probably be able to give you a more exact picture, but I only own one 3g modem :P19:23
Trixar_zaThe ZTE K3570-Z19:23
Kilosi got a zte mf190 here that works fine on linux but cant install to windows pcs19:25
Kilossomething corrupt19:25
Kilosand its read only cellc stuff thats messed up19:26
Kilosbut thats the one that helps trigger the dlink so i dont wanna mess with it yet19:26
Trixar_zaIn the old days you just had to do lsusb to trigger usb devices again19:27
Trixar_zaBut it doesn't work anymore :(19:27
Kiloswhere can one find info on why they went away from the storage bit to this new cdfs thing19:28
Kilosive google me sick19:28
Kiloswould be better for me if everything was physical stuff i could see, software is beyond my19:30
Kiloslike bitcoins19:30
Kilosi cant understand money that is in the air somewhere19:30
Trixar_zabitcoins are simple - they're a virtual currency that got pushed into being a major currency by the Chinese.19:30
Kilosits the virtual thing thats baffling19:32
Kilosi can install an os in virtualbox here but i can see it using space so its not really virtual19:32
Trixar_zaMost currency is virtual if you think about it19:32
Trixar_zaVirtual just means it doesn't exist physically. Your money doesn't exist until you draw it. Before that it's just transaction in a computer somewhere19:34
Trixar_za:P19:34
Kilosya but how do you draw bitcoins19:34
Kilosis there ever anything you can see and hold in your hand19:34
Trixar_zaIt's a virtual currency, so you draw it like you would exchange money - in your own currency19:35
Trixar_zaConsidering the worth of a single bitcoin on average... that's like 2k rand per bitcoin19:35
Kilosoh19:35
Kilosim too old or stupid for all this modern stuff19:36
Trixar_zaNo, I'm wrong. It's closer to 5k19:36
Kiloslike a virtual hamburger wont fill my tummy19:37
Trixar_zaThink of it like a real currency. You can draw real money off it19:38
Trixar_zaIt's just virtual because you won't get a bitcoin coin or bill19:38
Kiloshttp://preev.com/btc/zar19:38
Kilosbig bucks for something thats not real19:39
Trixar_zaYeah - the Chinese keep pushing it over 500 usd19:39
Kilosty Trixar_za  i will let you know once ive tried out this other sakis20:11
Kilossleep tight all. see ya morrow sometime20:11

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