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holsteinpawell: you shouldnt have to do anything to enable a core.. what makes it slow? what makes it fast?00:03
ballI didn't think I liked the pop-up dock thing but it's growing on me.00:22
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deltYou have some obsolete package versions installed. Please upgrade the following packages and check if the problem still occurs:01:24
deltwhat's the command again to update that whole bunch of packages at once?01:25
Noskcaj_delt, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:25
deltNoskcaj_: thanks01:26
deltanyway i'm doing (i think) the same thing using synaptic01:27
skribblezatchai think synaptic would sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, i dont know about at-get dist-upgrade01:28
skribblezatchaatleast by default.01:28
deltanyway, downloading 300mb of stuff...01:29
deltthanks for the info guys01:29
skribblezatchathats cool delt..i hope that the upgrade goes well for you. keep an eye on the terminal for errors.01:30
ballIs that 0.3 bytes?01:32
deltasdklfj02:07
deltrebooted02:07
deltnow stuff is missing in my top bar.... network icon says it can't find any connection, and sound/volume thing is missing02:08
deltpulseaudio seems to be running...02:09
delti'm not getting any sound from renoise, though the scopes are showing output02:09
deltfirefox/swf is audible...02:10
holsteindelt: "stuff" is missing? have you tried another account? or the guest account?02:11
holsteindelt: flash is not supported officially in desktop linux or JACK or pulse02:11
deltholstein: what's the executable filename of the little volume thingy?02:12
deltseems like several sound devices just appeared out of nowhere... had to re-select my sound card in renoise02:12
holsteindelt: i use pavucontrol02:13
holsteindelt: you'll have to ask the renoise support about upgrades and rebooting and presistent audio device settings02:13
delti run pavucontrol, the window appears but it doesn't put a little icon in the top bar02:14
deltpavucontrol --help isn't being much help02:14
holsteindelt: thats just what i use to route and control volume.. the sound applet is different02:15
deltand what's the executable file for that?02:16
delt2sec imma reboot again see if it changes anything02:17
holsteini thought it was just gnome-sound-applet.. but, why do you need it?02:17
holsteinyou dont control anything from there for JACK, or renoise02:17
delthah this is great.. the "restart" button in the logout box just logs me out02:18
holsteinyou may be having some issues trying to have a normal desktop and a production machine.. i usuallly run something like main ubuntu, xubuntu, or lubuntu as my desktop, and then, i have a dedicated partition/install, or another machine that is just for audio production02:18
holsteini *never* just update that production machine.. i'll upgrade to aquire a feature. otherwise, its an appliance02:19
delti have a server machine that's running without keyb/screen/mouse, this which is my "main" machine, and the laptop.02:20
holsteindelt: headless02:20
deltthis irc client is running in a screen session on the server, whcih is why i don't have to quit when rebooting this machine.02:20
deltyeah, the server is headless.02:20
holsteindelt: all im suggesting is, a partition or a seperate machine dedicated to audio production02:20
holsteindelt: so, when you are wanting renoise to work, it will... it wont be messed up by a PPA for some telephony app, or, a kernel upgrade you dont need.. or an alsa firmware rev that changes your audio device functionality02:21
deltthis machine is pretty much dedicated to audio prod.. except i sometimes use it for other stuff as well02:22
holsteinthen, you have a stock desktop setup that you dont have taken over with JACK configs.. and an unsafe appliance rig02:22
deltmy sound card can be used by several processes at once, so i don't need a monolithic jack setup... though jack can be running fine without bothering anything.02:23
deltwhat's the default sound applet in the top bar in ubuntu studio?02:23
holsteindelt: i use pavucontrol02:24
delt(and xubuntu, iirc it's the same oen)02:24
deltyeah but you said the applet in the top bar is a different thing02:24
delti personally thought it was the pavucontrol process docking itself in the top bar02:24
holsteindelt: it is.. and i dont use it.. have you tried either running, or seeing if you have "gnome-sound-applet"?02:25
holsteindelt: i remember back when i wanted to know that, i just searched synaptic for what i had02:25
deltyeah, it told me to install package gnome-control-center02:25
holsteindelt: it?02:25
deltwhatever program tells you which packages are missing instead of just "command not found" (when the program can be found in a non-installed package)02:26
delti haven't02:26
delti haven't "dissected" how that works excactly02:26
holsteini just searched in synaptic for what was already installed02:26
delt[pts/0][user@phobos]:~$ gnome-sound-applet02:27
deltThe program 'gnome-sound-applet' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:02:27
deltthat thing02:27
holsteindelt: do you not have an indicator?02:28
holsteindelt: have you tried as another user? or the guest account?02:28
deltyeah good point... 2sec02:28
deltnope... guest account doesn't have it anymore either02:29
holsteindelt: so, you broke the system, not the user config02:31
deltyeah that's what i figured.... now to fix it :/02:32
holsteindelt: if it isnt broken, dont fix it.. if you are using it for mostly audio production, you'll want pavucontrol and JACK. not the applet from the panel02:32
deltbut most of my apps use alsa with minimal latency02:33
holsteindelt: sure.. and nothing about an applet is faciiating that02:34
deltwell, renoise and pianoteq are working fine...02:34
holsteindelt: if you purged pulse, or are using alsa only, then that can be the issue.. you can then you alsamixer02:34
holsteindelt: i dont think anything is "not  working".. you are just missing the applet in the panel, and you shouldnt need it02:35
fortunamajorwhats the command to add a repo from launchpad04:10
bazhang!addppa04:10
ubottuSince Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details04:10
draxdeveloperhello04:17
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xubuntu212TL:DR, trying to run triple monitors on Xubuntu via  nvidia 690 active proprietry drivers . However, only 2 monitors are detected in xrandr09:22
joukeI have installed xubuntu and later installed ubuntu-desktop as well. When I log into ubuntu-deskop, I am able to setup mij three monitor setup like it is supposed to be. How do I copy the display config from ubuntu-desktop to xubuntu?09:25
linuxthefishwhy xubuntu buggy? :?10:02
linuxthefishwhen return from suspend is 100% fan10:03
bekkslinuxthefish: thats because the ACPI DSDT table of your computer is buggy.10:05
linuxthefishoh, is there a way to disable this?10:06
linuxthefish:'(10:06
bekksyou can either fake the OS name given to ACPI or you can try to tweak and fix the DSDT table. The first is the easy approach and pretty well described out there.10:07
bekkslinuxthefish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ACPITricksAndTips10:07
linuxthefishoh so i need xubuntu compatible computer10:09
cfhowlettlinuxthefish you're installing to a MAC?10:10
linuxthefishno!10:10
linuxthefishis there a list of compatible computers?10:11
Sicaleiahi10:44
Sicaleiaanybody up for some troubleshooting10:45
Sicaleiahi10:47
ochosi!ask10:48
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:48
Sicaleiaso i'm stuck at "configuring bcmwl-kernel-source". Now normally I'd just skip the 3rd party stuff and install it all later but since I'm doing this for someone else who truly has never used a linux/debian distro, really no other option but to smooth it out right away. I tried killing it but I could not find the PID for it and its kind of useless trying to kill it without that...10:51
arpad2hi, how to change the default speaker level in alsamixer, it is set to 0 atm11:32
cubAnyone been fiddling with xubuntu and dwm?11:48
duk64hallo everzbodz is here a german speaker_13:00
cfhowlett!de|duk6413:02
ubottuduk64: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!13:02
duk64thank zou Danke!!13:04
xubuntu421hi15:25
skribblezatchahi xubuntu421.15:26
xubuntu421do you speak turkısh ?15:27
skribblezatchano i dont, sorry.15:27
xubuntu421where are you? ı am from turkey15:27
pleia2xubuntu421: this is a support channel :) if you wish to just chat please join #xubuntu-offtopic15:27
osutapuguys, apt-get dissappered after i installed java 815:27
osutapui am using 14.0415:28
skribblezatchaxubuntu421, use this command: /join #xubuntu-offtopic15:28
slickymaster!tr | xubuntu42115:28
ubottuxubuntu421: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.15:28
xubuntu421nasıl yapacagız b,lemyorum15:29
osutapuis there same channel for Ukraine? like #ubuntu-tr i mean15:29
skribblezatchawhat do you mean as in disappeared osutapu, you can no longer use it and when you try to what error message do you get if any?15:29
osutapuit just said command not found15:30
slickymaster!ua | osutapu15:30
skribblezatchadoes apt work at osutapu?15:30
skribblezatchaat all*15:30
skribblezatchaso instead of using sudo apt-get update for example, can you run sudo apt update?15:31
osutapuand also, after last update on 14.04 sound indicator just vanished.15:31
osutapui dunno now, i am reinstalling xubuntu right now :D just saying, that there was such problem15:32
skribblezatchato get your sound indicator back, go to settings manager, then to session and startup, then to the applications tab, and make sure that sound indicator is ticked, then go and restart and it will be back where it should be.15:32
skribblezatchao ok osutapu..well if you are reinstalling the same iso that you just had installed, and do those updates, there is a chance that it will repeat itself. so i would get a daily build iso to reinstall.15:33
osutapuoh, thanks guys.15:34
skribblezatchayw osutapu.15:34
osutapuhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ this one?15:35
skribblezatchayes osutapu.15:36
osutapuk, thanks again guys15:37
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syeekickwhat software is best to make a windows xp and or windows 7 bootable usb from xubuntu?17:06
syeekickmaybe from the repostories built into xbuntu17:07
skribblezatchaunetbootin syeekick.17:09
syeekickyeah only 494 supports windows installations17:10
skribblezatchayeah i know right.17:10
skribblezatchaits also the only version that allows for you to be able to manually choose a drive, which is good when doing it from a live session.17:10
skribblezatchajust install unetbootin from repo using sudo apt-get install unetbootin so that all deps are there, and then run 494.17:11
skribblezatchafrom wherever you have it downlaoded to.17:11
syeekickriiight17:14
syeekicki tried the hardest way possible17:14
syeekicktried to compile the little shit17:14
skribblezatchawhat do you mean?17:14
skribblezatchao wow, why? one sec.17:14
skribblezatchahttp://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/494/17:15
bekkssyeekick: XP doesnt support booting from USB and it is going to be dead entirely in 3 days. Wind 7 supports booting from USB but isnt supported in this channel.17:15
skribblezatchathere you go syeekick.17:15
xubuntu099 *-display                       description: VGA compatible controller        product: GF108M [GeForce GT 525M]        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0        version: a1        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom        configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0        resources: irq:52 memory:f0000000-f0f17:15
bekksxubuntu099: Stop that spam please.17:16
AnsargonHola a todos17:16
skribblezatchaif you need help with anything drop me a PM since bekks just sent that message out there i guess opposing to asking about windows on this channel. lol17:16
skribblezatchawhich is a joke, but if you need me hit me up.17:16
syeekickgoing to17:16
Ansargonalguien me puede ayudar a cambiar la particion del disco duro para xubuntu y windows17:17
skribblezatchaword up, well just hit me up once you get it downloaded. then the rest is easy man.;)17:17
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mattiahi22:54
mattiacan someone help me? i've just installed xubuntu 13.10 and now i need to install postgres. But if i type sudo apt-get postgres i find an error that say that postgres is an invalid operator22:55
deltmattia sudo apt-get install postgres22:59
mattiaoh thx XD23:00
mattianow it works23:01
ScootsDeskHello Help?23:02
mattiabye23:03
ScootsDeskI am pretty advanced, just need help with partition question before installing xubuntu23:03
bazhanggo ahead23:03
ScootsDeskI have a laptop that i have had ubuntu 13.10 on for a while, but its bloated and always having to reinstall because of who knows what? but it will crash and upon restart it cannot load grub, or some other crap...23:05
ScootsDeskthat said whats the best way to setup my partition before ? I have a amd 64, with hd 7074m grpx I have efi on it but it can be disabled... can i just set a /boot as grub at start and a / for the rest /swap the size of my ram?23:08
ScootsDesklol just noticed scootsdesk... scottsdesk23:09
ScootsDeskradeon hd7470m23:10
ScootsDeskI mean23:10
bazhanglegacy?23:14
ScootsDeskno I just disabled it i dont have a "legacy" option23:17
ScootsDeskI am not dual booting either I have been using 13.10 using the whole disk. I stalled by default the installer from ubuntu put a fat32 partition /efi at the ver start of the drive,  and next a /boot and the /23:23
koegsif you do not plan to encrypt partitions you do not necessarily need a separate /boot-partition23:25
ScootsDeskso just partition it / ext4?23:26
koegsbasically you need the root-partition ("/") and swap23:27
koegsext4 is the standard partition type23:28
ScootsDeskok let me try this as the /efi and the /boot partitions have caused me all kinds of issues so far23:28
bazhang /home might be considered, as well23:29
ScootsDeskok well i hacve the disk burned so illl be back in 25 min if all goes well23:29
koegsif you want to keep your user-folders during reinstalls, yes23:29
bazhanggood luck23:30
ScootsDesknah... I use a offline drive for that...23:30
aalp4can anyone give a few pointers on how to autologin to awesomewm?23:33
aalp4i lost the tutorial which gave a step by step23:33
aalp4i know i have to create an xinitrc, and put a startx command... in .bash_profile, that's all i can remember23:34
PokemonAcerHi23:39
PokemonAcerI just got Xubuntu23:39
PokemonAcer:D23:39
Pappy55ukevening23:51
skribblezatchagood evening Pappy55uk.23:52
Pappy55ukjust thought i would check this channel out as im a linux newbie23:52
skribblezatchathats cool.23:52
Pappy55uki played with it a little in the past but i decided to install xubuntu on my laptop23:52
skribblezatchayeah its pretty neat, you can learn a few things.:)23:53
Pappy55uki hate windows 8 with a passion :)23:53
skribblezatchaPappy55uk: use this command: /join #xubuntu-offtopic23:53
skribblezatchathis is a help channel, but the other one is for chatting and hanging out.23:53
Pappy55ukok thank you23:54
skribblezatchayw.23:54
skribblezatchawhat version of xubuntu did you end up installing Pappy55uk?23:55
Pappy55uklatest i think23:55
skribblezatchaxubuntu trusty tahr 14.04?23:56
Pappy55uki origianly tried Zorin but i had issues getting a program to work23:57
skribblezatcharight right..23:57
skribblezatchai was using linux mint xfce for a while, and then it ran a bit warm..i think. now that i look back it could have been the temp plugin not working, since i have been having that issue with xubuntu's as well.23:58
skribblezatchalinux mint xfce runs using less resources and is very nice. xubuntu is one of the heaviest xfce based OS's but it also has a lot of nice features.23:59
Pappy55uki would use linux on my desktop if it was not for the fact i am a gamer23:59
Pappy55uki tried mint once too i like it23:59
skribblezatchayeah mint is nice.23:59

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