[03:07] <ronnoc> valorie: no doubt!
[08:52] <L0uChe> salut tout le monde j'ai un souci avec ma wifi je n'arrive pas a le connecter :/
[08:52] <L0uChe> es'que quelle q'un aurais une solution a m'apporter ?
[08:57] <valorie> !fr | L0uChe
[08:58] <L0uChe> ha sorry :)
[08:58] <L0uChe> thank you
[08:58] <valorie> you are welcome; good luck
[09:47] <nunzio> hello?
[10:09] <dv_> hello
[10:09] <dv_> I want to install the skulpture kde style, but I notice it depends on kwin active
[10:10] <dv_> also, apt-get then decides to uninstall kubuntu-desktop, so I wonder if doing this is a bad idea
[10:36] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:36] <OerHeks> morning BluesKaj
[10:37] <BluesKaj> Hi OerHeks
[14:54] <rcw2> hi
[14:59] <mamat> hi
[15:00] <mamat> hi rcw2
[16:40] <MelRay> clear
[16:42] <posthuman> hey guys i installed xenmanager on ubuntu 12.04  but im running into some  error while syncronising. It says ResponseNotReady  Done .... using  xen-server 6.2
[17:08] <Stu> hey all
[17:08] <Stu> been trying to decide as a noob to linux what distro...kubuntu looks it might make the transition from windows to linux...can i get some thoughts on this
[17:09] <Stu> whoops make it easier
[17:09] <Stu> lol
[17:12] <ikonia> Stu: what information do you actually want ?
[17:12] <Stu> since i am switching from windows to linux...would you recommend this a good distro for a noob such as myself
[17:14] <DarthFrog> Stu:  Yes, for the most part.  You will have learn some new things, as it is different from Windows.  if you can cope with that, welcome to the Light Side of The Force. :-)
[17:14] <Stu> sweet.  i mean is there any command line stuff i need to know
[17:15] <ikonia> Stu: we had this conversation in #ubuntu
[17:15] <ikonia> Stu: it's a personal preference, try using it live and see if you like it
[17:15] <ikonia> if you don't like it, try another to get the feel
[17:15] <Stu> im so confused
[17:15] <Stu> lol
[17:15] <ikonia> not sure what's confusing about this
[17:15] <Stu> i dont know what the hell im doing
[17:15] <ikonia> some people like a distro - others don't
[17:15] <DarthFrog> Stu:  Need to know?  No.  Would like complete control over your machine, yes.
[17:15] <ikonia> try using the distro live as I told you in #ubuntu, see if YOU like it
[17:16] <Stu> okay sorry about the double posting in the chat
[17:16] <ikonia> Stu: you'll get a lot better information if when you ask for advice, you follow the advice, rather than changing channel and asking it again
[17:17] <Stu> ur right...sorry for my ignorance
[17:17] <Stu> good thing i got a stack of dvd's to burn this bad boy and ubuntu too
[17:17] <ikonia> no need to apologise, I don't personally care
[17:17] <ikonia> you can do what you want in terms of use/not use a distro
[17:18] <DarthFrog> Stu:  Ubuntu is probably more newbie-friendly.  Kubuntu is more power user-friendly. :-)  But it's for newbs, too.
[17:18] <ikonia> that's just nonsense
[17:18] <ikonia> kubuntu is not "power user"
[17:18] <ikonia> it's just as welcoming to new users as any other desktop
[17:18] <DarthFrog> ikonia:  I said _more_ power-user friendly
[17:18] <ikonia> and I said "nonsense"
[17:18] <ikonia> it's not "more poweruser" friendly at all
[17:19] <ikonia> it's just a desktop the same as any other
[17:19] <DarthFrog> Then we shall agree to disagree.
[17:19] <ikonia> in what way is it more power user friendly then ?
[17:19] <DarthFrog> I'm _not_ saying it's not for newcomers, not at all.
[17:19] <ikonia> then why did you just say it's more power user friendly
[17:19] <DarthFrog> It doesn't have Unity getting int the way.
[17:19] <ikonia> no, it has kde gettting in the way
[17:19] <ikonia> so please try to at least be realistic
[17:19] <ikonia> if you don't like unity - fine
[17:20] <ikonia> but to say kde is more power user friendly because you don't like unity is just bad
[17:20] <DarthFrog> OK, please drop the topic.
[17:20] <DarthFrog> I don't really care.
[17:20] <Stu> good lord....
[17:20] <ikonia> then please do'nt make stuff up advise people
[17:20] <DarthFrog> You're an op and I'm not.
[17:20] <ikonia> being an op has nothing to do with it
[17:20] <Stu> op?
[17:20] <ikonia> operator of the channel
[17:20] <Stu> kde?  unity?
[17:20] <ikonia> don't worry about it
[17:20] <Stu> lol
[17:20] <Stu> ugh
[17:20] <DarthFrog> Hey, it's my _opinion_.  You don't like it. fine.
[17:21] <ikonia> DarthFrog: you're welcoem to your opinion but you don't seem to be able to back it up at all
[17:21] <DarthFrog> Stu:  This is a tempest in a teapot.  Ignore what ikonia and I are blathering about.
[17:21] <ikonia> other than "its not unity"
[17:21] <DarthFrog> No, you're challenging my opinion and I simply don't care.
[17:22] <ikonia> DarthFrog: then expalin it a little
[17:22] <ikonia> I'm interested
[17:22] <DarthFrog> I've always found KDE to be much more capable than GNOME.
[17:22] <ikonia> how is kde more friendly to power users
[17:22] <DarthFrog> KDE: How can I help you to do what you want to do?  GNOME: I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that.
[17:23] <ikonia> such as ?
[17:23] <DarthFrog> Ease of configuration, for a start.
[17:23] <ikonia> such as ?
[17:24] <DarthFrog> Stu:  Kubuntu is KDE based, Ubuntu is Unity/GNOME based.  These are desktop environments.  Which one you use is totally a matter of personal perference.
[17:25] <Stu> and thats where im confused.  im gonna throw it on a vbox and go from there
[17:26] <DarthFrog> Stu:  Either environment can run the apps from each environment.
[17:27] <Stu> i gotcha....i like the kubuntu it kinda looks like mac sorta kinda
[17:27] <DarthFrog> Actually, I would have said that Unity on Ubuntu is trying to be more like Mac OS.
[17:30] <BluesKaj> yup, KDE is more familiar looking to windows users
[17:31] <DarthFrog> Hi BluesKaj
[17:31] <BluesKaj> hey DarthFrog
[17:33] <Stu> i cant even run this on a virtual machine on windows...tells me that i dont have the correct processor trype
[17:33] <Stu> WTJ
[17:33] <Stu> WTH
[17:34] <DarthFrog> Stu:  You can boot from the CD (either version) and run a LiveCD version.
[17:35] <Stu> yeah was gonna try virtual machine first i didnt want to reboot...was downloading something
[17:38] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, you might be interested in this ppa , it stopped the blanking and fonts probs with OpenGL and raster and it might solve your steam/kwin crashes
[17:38] <BluesKaj> https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[17:46] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:56] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  Thanks, I'll give it a shot.  I'm installing Steam on WINE right now.
[18:37] <Stu> okay so i messed around with ubuntu thru the live cd
[18:37] <Stu> not bad
[18:38] <Stu> i just dont like how you cant change the view of alot of things
[20:00] <Rijack> how up to date does package for Steam in the ubuntu repo stay compared to valve's? the version convention are totally different so I don't know how to tell
[20:19] <rww> Rijack: it doesn't matter. Steam auto-updates itself into your home folder anyway.
[20:20] <Rijack> thanks
[20:20] <Rijack> downloding now
[20:41] <albert> тест
[21:04] <pietro10> Hi. I played around with some desktop environment sessions, and one of them changed lightdm to use a differnet theme that I can't switch back with KDE - specifically an Ubuntu-like theme with a list of users on the left, that had a purple background at first but changed to an XFCE one after I tried that. How do I change ti back? I tried removing /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf (which wasn't there before) but that didn't work. Thanks.
[21:10] <Snowhog_> pietro10: Do you want to return to using KDM or stick with LightDM?
[21:12] <pietro10> Snowhog_: oh, I wasn't using lightdm before?
[21:12] <pietro10> becuase the KDE system settings theme chooser says lightdm on it, and shows the correc tthemes
[21:13] <pietro10> and I don't have kdm installed
[21:13] <pietro10> I'm saying KDE is showing one theme, but lightdm is using another
[21:13] <Snowhog_> pietro10: Open a console and type: sudo install --reinstall lightdm
[21:14] <Snowhog_> pietro10: This will ensure that all parts of lightdm are installed.
[21:14] <Snowhog_> pietro10: Sorry!  correction:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[21:17] <pietro10> oh I think I know what happened
[21:17] <pietro10> it's unity-greeter
[21:18] <pietro10> but I can't find out without removing unity..??
[21:19] <Stu_> hey Darth
[21:19] <pietro10> trying it; thanks in the meantime Snowhog_
[21:19] <Stu_> i tried the both of them meaning ubuntu and kubuntu....i like kubuntu better believe it or not
[21:31] <Stu_> umm okay then
[22:59] <pietro10> Okay. What's the correct way to change the LightDM greeter used? Thanks.
[23:05] <pietro10> after trying several desktop environments, GTK+ no longer uses the KDE-dictated icon set. How do I change it back? Thanks.
[23:05] <pietro10> *also,
[23:05] <Kristy> Hello, how do I alter my secondary monitor's display color? It's too yellow and probably needs less R and G. Any help is appreciated!
[23:07] <pietro10> ok screw this I'm going to finish making sure quit events work right on unity and then remove it because it's caused everything so far
[23:32] <Kristy> Never mind, I found out how to unlock my monitor's menu.