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s-fox | Hello elfy | 19:52 |
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elfy | hi | 19:52 |
s-fox | Hello coffeecat | 19:56 |
s-fox | So shall we start? | 19:57 |
s-fox | elfy: howefield coffeecat | 19:58 |
howefield | sounds good | 19:58 |
coffeecat | o/ | 19:59 |
elfy | #startmeeting | 20:01 |
meetingology | Meeting started Sun Apr 6 20:01:14 2014 UTC. The chair is elfy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 20:01 |
meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 20:01 |
elfy | #chair coffeecat elfy howefield s-fox | 20:01 |
meetingology | Current chairs: coffeecat elfy howefield s-fox | 20:01 |
elfy | agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda | 20:02 |
elfy | and is short :) | 20:02 |
elfy | #topic Moderator Polling | 20:02 |
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Moderator Polling | ||
elfy | so a quick update of where we are | 20:02 |
coffeecat | Meetingology seems to think there are 4 chairs. Just thought I'd let you know. ;-) | 20:02 |
meetingology | coffeecat: Error: "seems" is not a valid command. | 20:02 |
elfy | we have 2 nominations from people other than the Forum Council | 20:03 |
elfy | we have 4 nominations from us | 20:03 |
elfy | so the question is - do we carry on knowing that 4 of the 6 are people that we nominated - or do we put this down to us not letting enough people know | 20:04 |
elfy | EVEN if we did let those who could actually vote and nominate know | 20:04 |
elfy | I note that not 1 nomination came from anyone on the current moderation team | 20:05 |
elfy | update updated :) | 20:05 |
elfy | comments from the rest of us please :) | 20:05 |
howefield | my feeling is that we have enough candidates for a ballot, so would be good to continue the process. | 20:05 |
howefield | I acknowledge that the lack of self nominated candidate is not a great place to be though. | 20:06 |
s-fox | I think the situation is not ideal but I have faith in the names in front of us | 20:08 |
howefield | yep, me too | 20:09 |
coffeecat | On the one hand it would be good to have a ballot if only to see how many members actually bothered to vote. On the other we have 6 names we are happy with and if we are happy to appoint six, then the vote becomes a bit pointless. | 20:10 |
elfy | my issue is | 20:10 |
elfy | if we had 6 people that were nominated by Forum Members then that would be great | 20:11 |
elfy | we are in a position where not only would we be happy with the 2 that were nominated by other than us | 20:11 |
elfy | we would also be happy with the 4 that we had to nominate | 20:11 |
elfy | at that point we're running a rigged ballot | 20:11 |
elfy | in so many words | 20:12 |
howefield | the process ensures that the FC are happy with all candidates put forward. | 20:12 |
s-fox | o/ | 20:12 |
elfy | I'd prefer us to learn from this - while we only have a cetain group of people who can vote - there's nothing to stop us letting the WHOLE forum know | 20:12 |
elfy | I think we mucked up there | 20:12 |
elfy | s-fox: go | 20:12 |
s-fox | Rigged, possibly but no different to how we've worked before behind closed doors. This was a spectacular failure but we should learn from it. | 20:13 |
elfy | yes - same as before, possibly we should have included the whole forum in the 'knowing' at least | 20:14 |
howefield | that would be reasonable, imho. | 20:15 |
s-fox | Perhaps the whole forum to vote, but only candidates be the ubuntu forum members | 20:15 |
elfy | s-fox: not sure about that | 20:15 |
elfy | not sure we can poll on the forum and only let people vote the once | 20:16 |
s-fox | Hello Iowan | 20:16 |
elfy | #chair Iowan | 20:16 |
meetingology | Current chairs: Iowan coffeecat elfy howefield s-fox | 20:16 |
coffeecat | all 5 of us appear to be chair. Shouldn't the comand be vote? | 20:17 |
elfy | coffeecat: doesn't matter I think | 20:18 |
elfy | and when there's a vote I'll do that | 20:18 |
coffeecat | ok - never seen a m e etiunglology tab before. | 20:18 |
elfy | how safe would a forum wide poll be? | 20:18 |
elfy | coffeecat: meetingology has changed lately | 20:18 |
elfy | I'm not sure that I would be happy with a poll forum wide to be honest - one of the points of forum membership was they would get a say | 20:19 |
howefield | we need to get past the issue of securing sufficent candidates before worrying about voting :) | 20:19 |
coffeecat | forum wide poll *should* be safe. If we ever got to the point of having one, we could investigate if there was a really weird result for one person. | 20:19 |
elfy | even if it does look like they aren't interested | 20:19 |
elfy | howefield: agreed | 20:20 |
elfy | Iowan: you caught up on the logs ? | 20:20 |
Iowan | not quite... | 20:20 |
elfy | the way I see it for now is we vote on | 20:20 |
elfy | 1 - carry on with a poll with the names we have given the cons of where we are | 20:21 |
elfy | 2 - go back to the old way this time and advertise the whole polling issue more widely next time | 20:21 |
elfy | just wait for Iowan to catch up and comment | 20:23 |
Iowan | I think I have the gist... | 20:23 |
elfy | ok | 20:23 |
Iowan | Dunno that I have a lot to comment. | 20:23 |
elfy | ok | 20:24 |
Iowan | Turnout was underwhelming... | 20:24 |
elfy | s-fox coffeecat howefield Iowan - happy to vote ? | 20:24 |
Iowan | OK | 20:24 |
howefield | sure - go ahead, thanks. | 20:25 |
coffeecat | yep | 20:25 |
elfy | #voters elfy howefield s-fox coffeecat Iowan | 20:25 |
meetingology | Current voters: Iowan coffeecat elfy howefield s-fox | 20:25 |
elfy | #vote Complete poll with the nominees we have currently | 20:26 |
meetingology | Please vote on: Complete poll with the nominees we have currently | 20:26 |
meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 20:26 |
howefield | +1 | 20:26 |
meetingology | +1 received from howefield | 20:26 |
Iowan | +1 | 20:26 |
meetingology | +1 received from Iowan | 20:26 |
coffeecat | -1 | 20:26 |
meetingology | -1 received from coffeecat | 20:26 |
s-fox | -1 | 20:26 |
meetingology | -1 received from s-fox | 20:26 |
elfy | -1 | 20:27 |
meetingology | -1 received from elfy | 20:27 |
elfy | #endvote | 20:27 |
meetingology | Voting ended on: Complete poll with the nominees we have currently | 20:27 |
meetingology | Votes for:2 Votes against:3 Abstentions:0 | 20:27 |
meetingology | Motion denied | 20:27 |
s-fox | It just doesn't feel right | 20:27 |
howefield | problem is, it doesn't feel right either way :( | 20:28 |
elfy | #vote Complete this round using the previous method, and look at increasing the advertising in 6 months time | 20:28 |
meetingology | Please vote on: Complete this round using the previous method, and look at increasing the advertising in 6 months time | 20:28 |
meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 20:28 |
elfy | +1 | 20:28 |
meetingology | +1 received from elfy | 20:28 |
howefield | -1 | 20:28 |
meetingology | -1 received from howefield | 20:28 |
coffeecat | +1 | 20:28 |
meetingology | +1 received from coffeecat | 20:28 |
elfy | howefield: yea I agree | 20:28 |
Iowan | +0 | 20:28 |
meetingology | +0 received from Iowan | 20:28 |
s-fox | +1 | 20:28 |
meetingology | +1 received from s-fox | 20:28 |
elfy | #endvote | 20:29 |
meetingology | Voting ended on: Complete this round using the previous method, and look at increasing the advertising in 6 months time | 20:29 |
meetingology | Votes for:3 Votes against:1 Abstentions:1 | 20:29 |
meetingology | Motion carried | 20:29 |
elfy | ok - thanks for that bit then | 20:29 |
elfy | #topic AOB | 20:29 |
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
elfy | Anyone got anything else they want to talk to us about? | 20:29 |
Iowan | AOB? | 20:30 |
elfy | or indeed anyone of us want to talk about anything else :) | 20:30 |
elfy | any other business | 20:30 |
Iowan | Tnx | 20:30 |
s-fox | The CSS thing is still waiting on IS input | 20:30 |
elfy | s-fox: there is a ticket for it isn't there? | 20:30 |
s-fox | Yes | 20:31 |
elfy | anyone up for taking an action to contact them? | 20:31 |
s-fox | I'll prod in the morning | 20:31 |
elfy | ok | 20:32 |
elfy | #action s-fox to contact Canonical IS re mobile theme | 20:32 |
meetingology | ACTION: s-fox to contact Canonical IS re mobile theme | 20:32 |
elfy | anything else from anyone? | 20:32 |
howefield | not from me, thanks. | 20:32 |
Iowan | NAda | 20:33 |
coffeecat | not here | 20:33 |
s-fox | Nothing else. | 20:33 |
elfy | #topic Team Report | 20:33 |
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elfy | who did that last time - was you I think s-fox ? | 20:33 |
s-fox | Yes | 20:34 |
* elfy thinks the new boy should do that at least once, just like I did it at least once :p | 20:34 | |
howefield | I should, not having done it yet. | 20:34 |
elfy | #action howefield Team Report | 20:34 |
meetingology | ACTION: howefield Team Report | 20:34 |
howefield | :) | 20:34 |
elfy | there are no votable Membership Applications at the moment | 20:34 |
elfy | and the team report is now the only rotating thing we do now I believe | 20:35 |
elfy | am I right? | 20:35 |
howefield | indeed :) | 20:35 |
Iowan | AFAIK, yes | 20:35 |
elfy | #topic Next Meeting | 20:36 |
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elfy | the calendar show's 2 for May - there appears to be one for 19:00UTC - I think that was my mistake I'll contact them to do that | 20:36 |
s-fox | We should change the time for the Americans / Canadians | 20:37 |
elfy | #action elfy Clean up the Calendar | 20:37 |
meetingology | ACTION: elfy Clean up the Calendar | 20:37 |
howefield | that's a UK Bank Holiday weekend, is that an issue ? | 20:37 |
elfy | s-fox: I asked in Admins thread | 20:37 |
Iowan | This American is OK with anythiing after noon (locally) | 20:37 |
elfy | :) | 20:38 |
elfy | I think that cariboo907 is generally ok as well | 20:38 |
elfy | lets talk about that amongst ourselves during the week then I'll deal with the calendar then | 20:39 |
elfy | #undo | 20:39 |
meetingology | Removing item from minutes: ACTION | 20:39 |
s-fox | +1 | 20:39 |
elfy | #action FC to discuss meeting times for next 6 months | 20:39 |
meetingology | ACTION: FC to discuss meeting times for next 6 months | 20:39 |
elfy | as they will be the summer time ones | 20:39 |
elfy | #endmeeting | 20:40 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Sun Apr 6 20:40:13 2014 UTC. | 20:40 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-04-06-20.01.moin.txt | 20:40 |
elfy | thanks everyone :) | 20:40 |
coffeecat | thanks elfy | 20:40 |
s-fox | Thanks elfy | 20:41 |
s-fox | :) | 20:41 |
elfy | s-fox: just so long as you're not all full of cold next time ... | 20:42 |
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