| === `Fibz`` is now known as `Fibz | ||
| brainwash | bluesabre: is bug 1279470 fixed or still pending? | 01:45 |
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| ubottu | bug 1279470 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "xubuntu, lubuntu images missing secure boot packages" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1279470 | 01:45 |
| Pwnna | hey guys, did F12 got bound to something in 14.04? | 01:47 |
| Pwnna | i cannot set it to be a keyboard shortcut | 01:47 |
| brainwash | Pwnna: I don't think it's bound to anything | 02:00 |
| Pwnna | sure? because F12 currently doesn't launch my terminal anymore | 02:00 |
| brainwash | only in combination with some modifier keys | 02:00 |
| Pwnna | i can bind it to F10, and it will work | 02:00 |
| brainwash | interesting | 02:00 |
| brainwash | there is bug 1292290 | 02:01 |
| ubottu | bug 1292290 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "Window manager keybindings don't work after reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292290 | 02:01 |
| brainwash | but it's only addressing window manager kb shortcuts | 02:02 |
| brainwash | Pwnna: can you please create a new user account and try to reproduce the issue? | 02:05 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: new user? | 02:05 |
| Pwnna | sure | 02:05 |
| Pwnna | gotta give me 5 | 02:06 |
| RFleming | Greetings! | 02:06 |
| brainwash | no need to hurry | 02:06 |
| brainwash | hello RFleming | 02:06 |
| Pwnna | whoo | 02:12 |
| Pwnna | bug | 02:12 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: create a user when you have only 1 | 02:12 |
| Pwnna | and then the indicator icon won't change to swtich user | 02:12 |
| Pwnna | hm | 02:13 |
| Pwnna | cannot reproduce with new user | 02:13 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: sorry that I have to bother you once again, I got negative feedback regarding the menu icon tweaks. well, the "new file" don't seem to fit the "open in new tab/window" entries. I got the idea from pcmanfm.. but it somehow really looks bad after all. new final patch to revert this is already attached to the bug report. thanks :) | 02:13 |
| Noskcaj | ok. i'll fix it after lunch | 02:14 |
| Noskcaj | And it's fine, i've got nothing to do anyway | 02:14 |
| brainwash | btw https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8765 | 02:15 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 8765 in General "Tiling does not preserve the original window size" [Normal,New] | 02:15 |
| brainwash | I've attached this patch upstream ^ | 02:15 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: is there anyway to check what is occupying F12? | 02:16 |
| Pwnna | i upgraded from 13.10. That should be something, right? | 02:16 |
| brainwash | Pwnna: sure, upload your kb shortcut config file | 02:16 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: where do i find that file? | 02:16 |
| brainwash | ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml | 02:17 |
| brainwash | it might be contain a broken entry | 02:17 |
| brainwash | deleting this file will restore the default keybinds | 02:18 |
| brainwash | after a relog | 02:18 |
| brainwash | Pwnna: what did you mean by "indicator icon won't change to switch user"? | 02:23 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: never mind that | 02:24 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4766900 | 02:25 |
| brainwash | so it's not a problem which might affect other users? | 02:25 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: i don't think so? I use action buttons | 02:26 |
| brainwash | ah, so you mean indicator-session? | 02:27 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: yeah | 02:27 |
| brainwash | ok :) | 02:27 |
| Pwnna | but yeah, anything interesting in there | 02:28 |
| brainwash | don't know yet | 02:28 |
| Pwnna | now F11 is also not working | 02:29 |
| Pwnna | but F11 is frequently bindded by apps | 02:29 |
| brainwash | fullscreen | 02:29 |
| brainwash | I'll try to debug this tomorrow | 02:29 |
| brainwash | your config file should be useful | 02:30 |
| Pwnna | okay | 02:31 |
| brainwash | at this point I have no clue yet why keybinds fail to work | 02:31 |
| === RFleming is now known as RFleming_afk | ||
| * elfy hates grub fatal errors | 09:21 | |
| jhenke | hi folks | 10:02 |
| jhenke | elfy I can fully understand that hate for grub problem :) | 10:02 |
| elfy | tried with yesterdays daily too | 10:06 |
| brainwash | yet another broken thing? | 10:09 |
| elfy | not our issue though | 10:10 |
| elfy | back later | 10:10 |
| knome | bluesabre, ochosi: ping me if you need more approvals | 11:22 |
| brainwash | ali1234: is your title-less windows patch complete and ready to be included? | 11:33 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: oh, there is also another untiling issue bug 1110158 | 11:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1110158 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Tiling a window + resizeing sends it out of screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1110158 | 11:47 |
| brainwash | well, is it still reproducible? I'm using the deskbar panel mode and did not notice anything odd yet | 11:48 |
| starrats | good morning | 13:07 |
| bluesabre | knome: will do | 13:07 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: yes, if it was merged, its fixed (marking as so) | 13:08 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: thanks for taking care of it | 13:12 |
| ochosi | hey folks | 13:20 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 13:22 |
| bluesabre | hey ochosi | 13:25 |
| ochosi | what's up? | 13:25 |
| bluesabre | not much atm | 13:27 |
| jjfrv8 | afternoon, ochosi, can I run some desktop issues by you? | 13:27 |
| ochosi | go ahead | 13:27 |
| elfy | upgrading little one's 1204 - it's not very quick process, it's upstairs and I'm not - it keeps asking questions :p | 13:27 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: that's a good thing though, right? :) | 13:27 |
| jjfrv8 | I upgraded my main machine yesterday from Precise and I'm having some issues with the backgrounds | 13:28 |
| bluesabre | yes, indeed :) | 13:28 |
| elfy | bbs - also fighting grub on this machine - I love linux :p | 13:28 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: there are some known bugs in xfdesktop | 13:29 |
| ochosi | check the unresolved ones in the xubuntu-t-bugs blueprint | 13:29 |
| jjfrv8 | I have two monitors with an nVidia GT220 adapter and my backgrounds look like this now: http://imagebin.org/304088 | 13:29 |
| ochosi | haha, nice | 13:29 |
| ochosi | have you tried to change the wallpaper at all yet? | 13:30 |
| jjfrv8 | it seems like on my main monitor it's a composite of all the backgrounds I've tried | 13:30 |
| jjfrv8 | on my secondary it's okay | 13:30 |
| jjfrv8 | and the background on my greeter screen is my original wallpaper on both monitors | 13:31 |
| ochosi | ideally xfdesktop should take care of the transition of the configuration | 13:31 |
| ochosi | but i'd just try to re-set the wallpaper on both monitors with the configuration dialog | 13:32 |
| ochosi | have you tried that at all? | 13:32 |
| jjfrv8 | yes | 13:32 |
| ochosi | the other thing you can try is to kill xfdesktop "killall xfdesktop", it'll respawn and hopefully draw the wallpapers correctly the second time | 13:32 |
| jjfrv8 | okay, I'll try that | 13:32 |
| ochosi | then if that doesn't work you can always open xfce4-settings-editor and reset the xfdesktop channel (right-click the xfdesktop row on the left -> reset channel), then you get a clean configuration | 13:33 |
| bluesabre | bad day = rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4 | 13:33 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, I did the reset channel thing and that did seem to fix the problem... at least until I started customizing again :( | 13:41 |
| jjfrv8 | now it's back to the same thing as before. | 13:42 |
| ochosi | :) | 13:46 |
| ochosi | so what are you customizing how exactly? | 13:46 |
| jjfrv8 | a background image on primary monitor and solid color on secondary | 13:47 |
| jjfrv8 | but it seems even putting a solid color on both, I end up with the composite stuff on the primary after a logoff | 13:49 |
| ochosi | so it works at first but after re-logging in it's borked? | 13:54 |
| ochosi | btw, how did you set up your monitors? nvidia's proprietary drivers or nouveau? xfce's dialog or nvidia's? | 13:54 |
| jjfrv8 | nvidia's. all I had to do after the upgrade was reverse the position of the monitors in the nvidia settings dialog | 13:57 |
| ochosi | right, i have no idea whether that could create problems | 13:58 |
| ochosi | i myself use propr drivers but use xfce's dialog to set up my monitors | 13:58 |
| jjfrv8 | btw, it seems if I stay with the stock background images, all is well, even with a different image on each | 13:58 |
| ochosi | you could try to use that instead | 13:58 |
| ochosi | a-ha | 13:59 |
| * ochosi shrugs | 13:59 | |
| ochosi | ideally debug this a bit more and add all your findings in a bugreport upstream on bugs.xfce.org | 13:59 |
| jjfrv8 | wilco | 13:59 |
| brainwash | jjfrv8, ochosi: bug 1276248 | 14:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1276248 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "desktop wallpaper distorted on boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276248 | 14:20 |
| brainwash | maybe it's the same problem | 14:20 |
| RFleming | brainwash, that's decidedly better than the desktop not setting properly :) | 14:20 |
| brainwash | but it seems to be a rare failure | 14:22 |
| RFleming | brainwash, on 14.04 this happens every single log on, but I much appreciate a bit of distortion on log on than bug 1270261 | 14:24 |
| ubottu | bug 1270261 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Desktop items have background" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270261 | 14:24 |
| brainwash | it still does? | 14:25 |
| RFleming | which, background distortion? | 14:26 |
| brainwash | "Desktop items have background" | 14:26 |
| RFleming | No | 14:26 |
| RFleming | that's fixed | 14:26 |
| RFleming | replaced with "desktop wallpaper distorted on boot" | 14:26 |
| brainwash | so the distortion happens again? or did it happen all the time since testing 14.04? | 14:28 |
| RFleming | it lasts about 2-5 seconds for me, usually contains the previous session's logoff screen in the 'box' attached to that bug then everything rights itself and I'm good | 14:28 |
| brainwash | ah, some nasty artifacts | 14:28 |
| RFleming | since testing 14.04, this is new | 14:28 |
| RFleming | it has replaced the 'Desktop items have background' bug | 14:29 |
| RFleming | once that was fixed, I started to see this | 14:29 |
| brainwash | we got even a report stating that the previous microsoft windows session was still visible | 14:29 |
| RFleming | ?? | 14:30 |
| brainwash | after a switch from windows to xubuntu | 14:30 |
| RFleming | loading something from gpu memory? | 14:30 |
| * elfy has seen all sorts of things after a restart | 14:30 | |
| brainwash | indeed | 14:30 |
| RFleming | agreed | 14:30 |
| elfy | RFleming: what card is this - what driver? | 14:30 |
| elfy | I guess nvidia with nouveau | 14:30 |
| RFleming | me? I've got an nVidia Quadro FX 880M | 14:31 |
| RFleming | and I'm using the prop tested drivers | 14:31 |
| brainwash | bug 1267742 | 14:32 |
| elfy | mmm - wasn't seeing that previously with nvidia driver | 14:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1267742 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu) "Screen artifacts appear after restart and cold boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1267742 | 14:32 |
| RFleming | 331.38 | 14:32 |
| elfy | brainwash: yea | 14:32 |
| RFleming | I'm also using uvesafb | 14:33 |
| RFleming | cus I like framebuffer :) | 14:33 |
| * elfy will install nvidia and check | 14:33 | |
| RFleming | how can I take a screen capture on logon? | 14:34 |
| RFleming | Prt Sc? | 14:34 |
| elfy | RFleming: you see the artifacts at the greeter screen? | 14:34 |
| brainwash | I doubt that | 14:34 |
| elfy | camera | 14:34 |
| brainwash | or pen and paper :D | 14:35 |
| elfy | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/162094788/CAM00031.jpg | 14:35 |
| elfy | RFleming: kind of like ^^ | 14:35 |
| RFleming | elfy, no artifacts at greeter screen | 14:35 |
| elfy | so where do you actually see this? | 14:35 |
| elfy | once you've logged in and the desktop is starting? | 14:36 |
| RFleming | take a look at the screenshot attached to 1276248 | 14:36 |
| RFleming | there's this dark box in it | 14:36 |
| elfy | bug 1276248 | 14:36 |
| ubottu | bug 1276248 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "desktop wallpaper distorted on boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276248 | 14:36 |
| RFleming | when I log in, I have remnants of my previous session in that box | 14:36 |
| elfy | ok - new one on me :) | 14:37 |
| elfy | and is that from a restart or cold boot? | 14:37 |
| RFleming | and my screen gets scewed | 14:37 |
| RFleming | both | 14:37 |
| RFleming | what I end up seeing is my screen shifts about 30% left, and 15% down, and it wraps. | 14:38 |
| elfy | ok - I'll try here then - previously installing nvidia for me removed any issues with artifacts | 14:38 |
| RFleming | but it only lasts a couple of seconds, sorts itself out and I'm good to go | 14:38 |
| * RFleming is going to try and take a screen shot | 14:39 | |
| jjfrv8 | when I log in and out, switching users, I briefly see artifacts of the other users wallpaper before it settles down and shows mine | 14:39 |
| jjfrv8 | and my wallpaper is screwed up unless I use one of the stock images (as reported earlier) | 14:40 |
| elfy | can't confirm that | 14:41 |
| RFleming | of course, now that I want it to happen, it won't :) | 14:43 |
| elfy | lol | 14:43 |
| elfy | I restarted with nvidia driver - this is when I would expect to find no artifacts on the desktop from previous experience - same this time | 14:44 |
| RFleming | I had my lappy logged off all night, when I logged in this morning I had that artifiacting... now it's working fine. | 14:44 |
| RFleming | I even restarted, with no issue. | 14:44 |
| elfy | I'll keep it as is for the time being and see if it is a random issue | 14:44 |
| RFleming | I just jumped on brainwash because I had that exact issue he was talking about when I joined. | 14:45 |
| RFleming | (the channel this morning) | 14:45 |
| elfy | :) | 14:46 |
| RFleming | overall though, I've been using 14.04 since late February and haven't had any real issues... just small things, and they typically disappeared (and subsequently replaced with other small things) in a relatively short period of time. | 14:48 |
| elfy | yep - not had much in the way of show stoppers here either, I've been running it since November | 14:50 |
| RFleming | I really need to learn how to search through launchpad for bugs though. I have no clue how to. | 14:50 |
| RFleming | I had an issue that scribblezatcha helped me with | 14:51 |
| RFleming | the update a couple of days ago knocked out my sound indicator icon :) | 14:51 |
| brainwash | RFleming: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-t-bugs is very handy | 14:58 |
| brainwash | and feel free to test anything from my PPA (if you are familiar with installing from a PPA) | 15:00 |
| brainwash | https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test | 15:00 |
| brainwash | RFleming: the sound indicator is currently not launching automatically due to a change made by the ubuntu guys for Unity | 15:02 |
| brainwash | you can easily re-enable it via settings manager > session and startup > autostart apps | 15:03 |
| RFleming | yep. Have done that :) | 15:04 |
| RFleming | brainwash, to be honest, I never even thought to look there :) | 15:05 |
| RFleming | then scribblezatcha suggested it, and voila | 15:05 |
| RFleming | oh, speaking of indicators. Is there any way to change the priority of what's displayed on the power indicator? | 15:07 |
| ochosi | no | 15:07 |
| RFleming | :( | 15:07 |
| ochosi | it automatically decides what's more important/critical | 15:07 |
| RFleming | so a mouse that is discharging and a keyboard that doesn't exist trumps a laptop battery that's charging | 15:08 |
| RFleming | got it. | 15:08 |
| RFleming | Hey elfy, I've just noticed something in Settings. | 15:23 |
| RFleming | I now appear to have 2 'Additional Drivers' icons in Hardware. | 15:23 |
| elfy | yea - we know about that issue | 15:25 |
| RFleming | alrighty :) | 15:26 |
| elfy | the fix is pending | 15:26 |
| * RFleming grins | 15:29 | |
| RFleming | I'm not worried about a fix coming, it eventually does | 15:29 |
| elfy | lderan: not sure if this is expected behaviour - had nouveau, no screensaver - set to Never, install nvidia driver - seems to set it to 1 minute - had to reset to Never | 15:35 |
| lderan | will look into that elfy | 15:36 |
| elfy | okey doke | 15:36 |
| brainwash | elfy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215325 | 15:54 |
| brainwash | your answer does not make any sense :) | 15:54 |
| brainwash | this is the 2nd time I hear/read about this problem with suspend | 15:55 |
| brainwash | but maybe it's just the same person | 15:55 |
| elfy | it does now ... | 15:57 |
| brainwash | thanks | 15:59 |
| brainwash | sadly no additional info in the original thread | 15:59 |
| elfy | nope | 16:00 |
| elfy | many threads in +1 are like that unfortunately | 16:00 |
| * GridCube is having issues with the suspension as well | 16:05 | |
| brainwash | xfce related? | 16:06 |
| GridCube | i tried to restart xfce4-power-manager but it wont work after it goes to suspension | 16:06 |
| GridCube | when it comes back i can't open the power manager | 16:06 |
| GridCube | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1302244 | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1302244 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power-manager-settings can not be launched after the session comes back from a suspension" [Undecided,New] | 16:06 |
| brainwash | so you cannot open the settings dialog | 16:07 |
| GridCube | not after it wakes up | 16:07 |
| brainwash | did you try to restart the power manager? | 16:07 |
| GridCube | if it wakes up, at least once i had to force a reboot | 16:07 |
| brainwash | and did you try to create a debug log file like I've told you? | 16:09 |
| brainwash | running xfpm in debug mode inside a terminal window | 16:10 |
| GridCube | i tried to restart it yes it did nothing, ill try the debug now if you tell me how to | 16:10 |
| brainwash | xfce4-power-manager --debug | 16:10 |
| brainwash | you might need to kill the currently running instance of xfpm before | 16:11 |
| GridCube | kay | 16:12 |
| GridCube | trying | 16:12 |
| GridCube | trying to run --debug says that its already running, even after i killalled it with and without sudo | 16:14 |
| GridCube | rebooting and trying again | 16:14 |
| brainwash | you can uncheck the autostart entry for it and then start it manually | 16:15 |
| GridCube | great, now is not comming back | 16:23 |
| GridCube | its awake, i can go to ttys but tty7 is not responding | 16:23 |
| GridCube | aaaand, pressing the powerbuton to call the login stage shutdown the computer properly | 16:24 |
| Pwnna | is there a way to create a new user account that has the new xfce settings | 16:24 |
| Pwnna | but keep all of my old account's stuff? like files with the permissions and such | 16:25 |
| Pwnna | i've upgraded this machien from 12.04 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04 and lots of settings are not working | 16:25 |
| brainwash | most xfce related settings are located in ~/.config/xfce4/ | 16:25 |
| brainwash | renaming this folder should restore the default configuration on next login | 16:26 |
| GridCube | k i have to cook now | 16:27 |
| Pwnna | for example after i login with my current user my screen resolution goes to 1024x768 | 16:27 |
| Pwnna | i'll try that | 16:27 |
| Pwnna | it worked! | 16:41 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: the F12 key is now working. | 16:41 |
| Pwnna | what's startup notifcation for keyboard shortcut, btw? | 16:41 |
| brainwash | Pwnna: I think it's used to trigger the busy cursor while the app is launching | 16:43 |
| Pwnna | oh | 16:43 |
| Pwnna | i wish there is a way to get a libnotify notifcation | 16:43 |
| Pwnna | wait | 16:44 |
| Pwnna | F12 is definitely hijacked by something | 16:44 |
| Pwnna | it worked and then stopped working | 16:45 |
| brainwash | dynamically? | 16:45 |
| brainwash | :D | 16:45 |
| brainwash | but it's a major annoyance | 16:46 |
| brainwash | customizability is an important part of Xfce | 16:48 |
| brainwash | so broken keybinds are bad | 16:48 |
| Pwnna | idk how this is not working | 16:50 |
| Pwnna | it worked and then stopped | 16:50 |
| Pwnna | i can relogin | 16:50 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: discovered something! | 16:55 |
| Pwnna | when i add a shortcut to super+F12 the f12 shortcut stops working | 16:55 |
| Pwnna | i can try it in a new user acc | 16:55 |
| GridCube | alright, executing sudo killall light-locker from tty1 let me go to tty7 and login to my desktop | 16:55 |
| GridCube | but the running terminal that had the xfpm --debug is gone so i dont know what it said | 16:56 |
| Pwnna | wait. in fact Super+F12 replaces F12 | 16:56 |
| Pwnna | so if you create 2 shortcuts, Super+F12 and F12 | 16:58 |
| Pwnna | the second one will replace the first one. | 16:58 |
| elfy | Pwnna: I can confirm that if there is a bug report | 17:01 |
| elfy | but I'm not here atm :) | 17:01 |
| Pwnna | elfy: you can confirm that? | 17:02 |
| Pwnna | idk which package to report a bug in | 17:02 |
| GridCube | Pwnna, i would do it agains xfwm4 | 17:03 |
| Pwnna | okay | 17:04 |
| Pwnna | this is pretty major for me as both super f12 and f12 does important functionalities | 17:04 |
| Pwnna | elfy, GridCube https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/1303404 | 17:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1303404 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Hotkeys overriding each other" [Undecided,New] | 17:11 |
| Pwnna | can verify? | 17:11 |
| GridCube | can't. it works here | 17:15 |
| Pwnna | ok | 17:15 |
| GridCube | my f12 drops tilda, super-f12 sends the notification | 17:15 |
| Pwnna | okay. | 17:16 |
| Pwnna | well idk | 17:16 |
| GridCube | well. no. wait. tilda hears the f12 regardles of the shortcut | 17:16 |
| Pwnna | GridCube: 14.04? | 17:17 |
| GridCube | yes | 17:17 |
| Pwnna | hm | 17:18 |
| GridCube | no, my f12 does nothing after i kill tilda | 17:18 |
| GridCube | alright, weird | 17:19 |
| GridCube | i can confirm now | 17:19 |
| Pwnna | please confirm :P | 17:19 |
| GridCube | did so | 17:20 |
| GridCube | brainwash, :( now i consistently can't relog, all the time it leaves a blank screen | 17:43 |
| brainwash | check some log files | 17:45 |
| brainwash | like ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log | 17:45 |
| brainwash | and of course /var/log/syslog + /var/log/lightdm/ | 17:46 |
| GridCube | k, should i append them all to my bug report? | 17:46 |
| brainwash | won't hurt | 17:47 |
| starrats | Question: Where is the little volume control that used to sit on top of the screen next to the time/date icon? | 17:56 |
| GridCube | starrats, failing to load | 17:57 |
| starrats | it's not there for me now | 17:57 |
| Pwnna | GridCube: are you debugging when you login from sleep you get a blank screen? | 17:57 |
| starrats | is ikt just mine or is it a glitch in the version | 17:57 |
| GridCube | Pwnna, yes | 17:58 |
| GridCube | starrats, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-April/009967.html | 17:58 |
| Pwnna | thanks | 17:58 |
| GridCube | Pwnna, you have the same issue? | 17:59 |
| Pwnna | yea | 17:59 |
| Pwnna | is there a bug? I can confirm | 17:59 |
| GridCube | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1302244 | 17:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1302244 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power-manager-settings can not be launched after the session comes back from a suspension" [Undecided,New] | 17:59 |
| GridCube | Pwnna, thats my bug report | 17:59 |
| GridCube | but it has evolved from that | 18:00 |
| Pwnna | GridCube: wait. wut | 18:00 |
| Pwnna | you mean after you login there's no screen | 18:00 |
| Pwnna | you can run a Xrandr command | 18:01 |
| Pwnna | and get your screen back | 18:01 |
| Pwnna | but then i lose my mouse pointer | 18:01 |
| Pwnna | and then if you go to CTRL+ALT+DELETE and relogin again everything works | 18:01 |
| GridCube | i stopped the lightdm service and restarted it, then i could log in | 18:01 |
| GridCube | i tried to ctrl-alt-del but i got to the login and went back to a black screen, over and over again | 18:02 |
| Pwnna | GridCube: http://ubuntu.5.x6.nabble.com/Problem-with-wakeup-td5062841.html | 18:03 |
| GridCube | Pwnna, yes i've seen that thread | 18:04 |
| Pwnna | yeah. | 18:05 |
| GridCube | Pwnna, can you open the xfce4-power-manager-settings? | 18:05 |
| Pwnna | GridCube: when | 18:08 |
| GridCube | after waking up your suspended pc | 18:08 |
| GridCube | Pwnna, you are correct, executing an xrandr does start the screen | 18:18 |
| Pwnna | so i think it's an issue with after login the screen cannot be found correctly | 18:29 |
| Pwnna | i see the new login screen is like.. another display | 18:29 |
| Pwnna | previously it's an overlay | 18:29 |
| Pwnna | so idk | 18:29 |
| GridCube | Pwnna, yes, now we use light-locker, previously it was the xscreensaver i think | 18:30 |
| Pwnna | yea | 18:31 |
| Pwnna | hm | 18:31 |
| Pwnna | GridCube: also when you wake up the screen brightness is at minimum | 18:31 |
| knome | xnox, any progress/idea with bug 1284910 ? | 18:38 |
| ubottu | bug 1284910 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu Beta 1 and Beta 2 installer has debian background wallpaper" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284910 | 18:38 |
| GridCube | Pwnna, i don't notice that | 18:43 |
| * starrats will wait until the xfce volume/sound icon to be fixed. | 18:49 | |
| starrats | I temp. lost wifi had to reboot the modem and router. | 18:50 |
| GridCube | starrats, did you not see the link i pasted you? | 18:51 |
| starrats | yes I did GridCube and I followed all the instructions, rebooted and lost the wifi plus i couldn't logon and had turn off the comp and did a restart. | 18:56 |
| GridCube | :( | 18:56 |
| eric_the_idiot | jjfrv8, if you can try xfdesktop from git it should fix your issue | 19:17 |
| brainwash | eric_the_idiot: ah, new commit | 19:24 |
| eric_the_idiot | yeah, gotta keep you busy with your ppa ;) | 19:28 |
| CajunTechie | Hello everyone | 19:31 |
| CajunTechie | I'm looking to get involved as a Python programmer. Any suggestions/tips? | 19:32 |
| knome | CajunTechie, hey, you one of the people asking for that on the mailing list? | 19:33 |
| CajunTechie | Knome: Indeed I was :-)( | 19:34 |
| knome | CajunTechie, ok, did you read about the xfce python bindings? | 19:34 |
| knome | that would be generally useful to know | 19:35 |
| CajunTechie | No, I haven't yet. I assume that would be on the XFCE site then? | 19:35 |
| knome | there was a mail about them | 19:35 |
| knome | let me dig that up | 19:35 |
| CajunTechie | Ooh yes, I remember that discussion. That they could use some love | 19:35 |
| knome | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-April/009985.html | 19:36 |
| knome | yep | 19:36 |
| knome | other than that, we're pretty late in the cycle, so not much we have time to get you involved with... | 19:36 |
| knome | ...but we will start working on the next release soon, and think what updates we want/need to land for 14.04.1 | 19:36 |
| CajunTechie | Great! Then I will start beefing up for the next cycle then | 19:37 |
| knome | if you have an irc shell, it would be useful to follow how things usually roll by following this channel | 19:37 |
| knome | most of the xubuntu contributors are more or less active on IRC | 19:37 |
| knome | so it's the natural platform for a lot of discussion | 19:37 |
| knome | being around you will also get to know the nicks and people behind them | 19:38 |
| knome | and: welcome! | 19:38 |
| CajunTechie | True. Then I will do that. I always forget to start IRC but I'll just let my client idle and check in every now and again. | 19:38 |
| CajunTechie | Thank you! | 19:38 |
| knome | you might or might not remember me from the list: i'm the xubuntu project lead (until april 17th) | 19:38 |
| CajunTechie | Oh yeah, I do remember. I'm still getting names down so please forgive me not connecting | 19:39 |
| knome | no problem at all | 19:39 |
| knome | it'll take some time | 19:39 |
| knome | ochosi is simon, who proposed looking at the python bindings for xfce | 19:39 |
| knome | he's also the artwork lead | 19:39 |
| CajunTechie | Am i correct in assuming pyxfce is what I need to be looking at here? | 19:40 |
| knome | well, i don't understand "much" about actual development, but i'd guess yes :) | 19:40 |
| knome | and the thunarx-python stuff too | 19:40 |
| CajunTechie | Excellent. I'm there now and WOW, could use some love is an understatement. I'll also check out the thunar stuff | 19:41 |
| knome | usually it's best to work with stuff that will scratch your own itch, eg. fix a bug that annoys you | 19:41 |
| CajunTechie | True. | 19:41 |
| knome | and that's also a very motivating way to start contributing | 19:41 |
| knome | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-t-bugs | 19:42 |
| knome | ^ that's the list of bugs we are working on *right now* | 19:42 |
| knome | we will try to fix as many of those for 14.04 release as possible | 19:42 |
| CajunTechie | Many thanks! THAT will come in very handy | 19:42 |
| knome | if you find a bug that is not marked with "fix released" and doesn't have an assignee, and think you can fix it, feel free to step up and mark yourself as assignee | 19:42 |
| knome | or just shout out in this channel that you are interested in working with that bug | 19:43 |
| knome | people will help you when they are around, if they can | 19:43 |
| CajunTechie | Excellent! Sounds like a very easy process | 19:43 |
| knome | well.. it should be ;) | 19:43 |
| knome | ...and the cherry at the top: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-t/group/topic-t-flavor-xubuntu.html | 19:44 |
| CajunTechie | I have to say, it's a much easier process than some other projects I've been part of. This looks fun | 19:44 |
| knome | our current progress towards the release | 19:44 |
| knome | we will most probably not hit 100%, but at least we have some idea where we are at | 19:44 |
| knome | and as you can see, most of the sub-blueprints are done | 19:45 |
| CajunTechie | Very ysefyl | 19:45 |
| knome | if you have any qeuestions... just ask | 19:46 |
| CajunTechie | + useful | 19:46 |
| CajunTechie | lol | 19:46 |
| knome | and again: welcome | 19:46 |
| CajunTechie | I will. I'm going to spend some time studying now and getting the lay of the land. Thank you again! | 19:46 |
| knome | no problem | 19:46 |
| knome | be back in a bit -> | 19:46 |
| Noskcaj | CajunTechie, If pyxfce is too daunting, (it's not been updated since 4.6 i think), bluesabre makes a fair few of our python apps, and might have some stuff you can work on | 19:50 |
| knome | there is infrastructure that runs on python too, which is what lderan mostly works with | 19:54 |
| knome | Noskcaj, we should do various of uploads before 10th for translation updates | 19:55 |
| knome | -of | 19:55 |
| lderan | hello :) | 20:00 |
| * Logan_ waves | 20:03 | |
| lderan | hello Logan_ :) | 20:03 |
| Noskcaj | knome, I'm back, light-loocker crshed my pc again | 20:03 |
| Logan_ | I'm a MOTU who's about to make the switch to Xubuntu, so feel free to give me tons of merge/sync requests :P | 20:03 |
| Noskcaj | hey logan | 20:03 |
| knome | ooh ooh ;) | 20:03 |
| Logan_ | I heard there's a need for people with upload rights over here | 20:03 |
| Logan_ | from a certain person named Jackson | 20:03 |
| knome | definitely... | 20:03 |
| Noskcaj | :) | 20:03 |
| knome | poke Noskcaj (your person), bluesabre and ochosi | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | There's a fair few uploads waiting in the sponsoring queue | 20:04 |
| knome | that would be a good place to start | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | thunar and xfwm4 spring to mind | 20:05 |
| Noskcaj | knome, Should we take some upstream git snapshots for translation updates, or is the a better way? | 20:05 |
| Noskcaj | i think my mouse has stopped working now | 20:08 |
| Noskcaj | the cursor | 20:08 |
| knome | Noskcaj, hrmph, i'd dicsuss that with people who know the conventions better | 20:10 |
| knome | i'd guess it depends what our current version in ubuntu is | 20:10 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: untiling patch yes/no? | 20:11 |
| brainwash | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8765 | 20:11 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 8765 in General "Tiling does not preserve the original window size" [Normal,New] | 20:11 |
| brainwash | adding all these separate patches is a bit scary though | 20:12 |
| brainwash | but that's the ubuntu way I guess :) | 20:13 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, If you need motivation, try to get as many patches in as gnome-control-center | 20:14 |
| brainwash | more patches than actual code? :D | 20:14 |
| Noskcaj | -0ubuntu54 | 20:15 |
| Noskcaj | nuff said | 20:15 |
| brainwash | but isn't that some ancient version which gets patched to the limit? | 20:16 |
| pleia2 | Noskcaj: is it possible that this regressed? Just had someone complaining about it on trusty, just updated their kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1222021 | 20:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Debian) "[SRU] xfce4-power-manager does not inhibit systemd from handling buttons and lid events" [Unknown,New] | 20:18 |
| pleia2 | closes lid, suspends even though they don't want it to | 20:18 |
| brainwash | maybe power-manager crashed and does not respond anymore | 20:19 |
| Noskcaj | pleia2, I've got the same issue. It's possible it regressed like that, could be something else though | 20:19 |
| brainwash | a regression is somewhat unlikely | 20:19 |
| brainwash | systemd did not change | 20:20 |
| brainwash | neither did the power-manager | 20:20 |
| pleia2 | thanks brainwash | 20:20 |
| brainwash | but we got reports that the power-manager stopped working after the first suspend | 20:21 |
| pleia2 | I'll ask | 20:22 |
| pleia2 | I like suspend, so :) | 20:23 |
| Noskcaj | Unlikely, but http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/commit/?id=83b20fd2335a2cc54577019ea9af1a664a93ac28 could be related | 20:27 |
| jhenke | good night | 20:46 |
| === forestpi1kie is now known as forestpiskie | ||
| ochosi | humm, some ppl report suspend problems | 22:25 |
| ochosi | and i'm wondering whether those are general suspend problems or related to greeter or locker | 22:25 |
| elfy | I've kind of seen some rumbling - but I've not been very awake - I can try tomorrow with this machine and the laptop | 22:26 |
| elfy | then whatever logs we need we can have | 22:26 |
| ochosi | problem is that for me suspend wasn't that reliable from the beginning in 14.04 | 22:27 |
| ochosi | so it's not totally unlikely that it's related to other stuff | 22:27 |
| ochosi | (like graphics driver, etc) | 22:27 |
| elfy | suspend on this machine has always been solid | 22:28 |
| elfy | I just never do it - it being a desktop - seems a bit pointless | 22:29 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:29 |
| elfy | and the laptop needs a new battery so it is plugged in to the mains ... | 22:29 |
| elfy | lderan: you know I said earlier that light-locker-settings was showing the blank screen at 1 minute after I installed nvidia | 22:43 |
| elfy | I set it to never - seems that since I logged back in it was at 1 minute again | 22:44 |
| ochosi | have you checked xfpm | 22:44 |
| elfy | ochosi: yea - that was all set to Never still | 22:45 |
| ochosi | have you checked "xset q" ? | 22:45 |
| ochosi | there are a few values you can check | 22:45 |
| ochosi | mostly the DPMS stuff | 22:45 |
| ochosi | and ScreenSaver | 22:45 |
| elfy | Standby: 0 Suspend: 0 Off: 0 | 22:46 |
| elfy | dpms ^^ | 22:46 |
| elfy | prefer blanking: yes | 22:46 |
| elfy | screen saver ^^ | 22:46 |
| elfy | oh bah - ignore me completely | 22:46 |
| elfy | sigh - no don't ignore me lol | 22:47 |
| elfy | I did a clean install - thought I was in that for a moment ... | 22:47 |
| ochosi | oh bah, don't send me on emotional rollercoasters just like that! :p | 22:47 |
| elfy | ochosi: so this only happened after I installed the nvidia driver ealrier today | 22:47 |
| elfy | reinstalling nouveau - will check what that does tomorrow morning | 22:48 |
| brainwash | bug 1303493 | 22:49 |
| ubottu | bug 1303493 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "xubuntu boot disc menu has duplicate entries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1303493 | 22:49 |
| brainwash | which package is causing this? | 22:49 |
| brainwash | surely not xfdesktop4 | 22:49 |
| ochosi | debian-installer maybe | 22:50 |
| ochosi | not sure thogh | 22:50 |
| ochosi | though | 22:50 |
| lderan | elfy, will try that myself tomorrow, got an old pc with an nvidia card in it | 22:52 |
| elfy | lderan: ok | 22:53 |
| brainwash | ochosi: ok, reassigned it | 22:54 |
| jjfrv8 | eric_the_idiot, thanks, but I'm afraid I don't know how to install from git | 23:34 |
| ochosi | maybe brainwash will put it in his ppa | 23:34 |
| elfy | ages since I needed numlockx - forgot all about that | 23:37 |
| knome | ochosi, poke Logan_ | 23:51 |
| ochosi | what for? | 23:52 |
| knome | 23:03 Logan_: I'm a MOTU who's about to make the switch to Xubuntu, so feel free to give me tons of merge/sync requests :P | 23:52 |
| ochosi | weeee | 23:52 |
| ochosi | nice | 23:52 |
| ochosi | in that case, i'll prepare another upload for xubuntu-artwork with new icons | 23:53 |
| ochosi | i mean new icon sizes | 23:53 |
| ochosi | we just got a huge bunch of stuff fixed | 23:53 |
| Unit193 | Wow, awesome. | 23:54 |
| brainwash | jjfrv8: https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test | 23:54 |
| elfy | wow | 23:54 |
| knome | Logan_, see? that's how much we needed uploaders... | 23:54 |
| elfy | ha ha ha | 23:55 |
| * elfy ensures that Logan_ 's arms haven't been snapped off | 23:55 | |
| jjfrv8 | brainwash, I already have that ppa installed but I see that xfdesktop got updated 4 hours ago. I'll try running an update. | 23:58 |
| brainwash | yes, the last upload contains the needed patch | 23:59 |
| brainwash | "fix for monitors not getting updated" | 23:59 |
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