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skribblezatchai hear you, well i just play nintendo 64 games that i run with wine, and play supertuxkart which is a native linux racing game..and i am content with that so.00:00
skribblezatchai dont use windows anymore, i havent used windows in about a year.00:00
linuxthefishwow00:00
skribblezatchawow what linuxthefish?00:00
Pappy55uki can see myself switching if Steam OS takes off00:01
skribblezatchaits pretty much up and running as far as i can see Pappy55uk.00:01
linuxthefishi would run linux full time but my computer isn't compatible00:02
linuxthefishso only on servers :(00:02
skribblezatchahttp://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=steamOS00:02
Pappy55ukdident Commodore release a linux build with an official C-64 and Amiga enviroment buint into it?00:02
skribblezatchawhy isnt your computer compatible linuxthefish?00:02
skribblezatchai dont know Pappy55uk, to be honest.00:03
linuxthefishsome ACPI things00:03
linuxthefishskribblezatcha 100% fan after resume from suspend00:03
skribblezatchareally linuxthefish? with ALL linux distros?00:03
linuxthefishyes00:03
skribblezatchamaybe just going and installing the acpi package is what you need to do?00:03
linuxthefishtried that :(00:04
skribblezatchalm-sensors?00:04
linuxthefish5 seconds00:04
skribblezatchaok.00:04
linuxthefishalso enabling trim deleted everything on my SSD :(00:05
Pappy55uki plan to use linux for my home media pc under the TV when i get the extra parts sorteed00:05
skribblezatchathats cool Pappy55uk.00:05
Pappy55ukjust hope there are ssome good emulators00:05
ScottsDesknice thing about live cd can browse and do stuff while installing00:05
Pappy55ukfor Megadrive (genesis) SNES and MAME00:05
skribblezatchathere are a few good ones, and ways to get games running on linux.00:05
skribblezatchai like that too ScottsDesk.00:06
skribblezatchai know that there are a few linux emulators for all of those Pappy55uk. this is evidence of that, one sec.00:06
skribblezatchahttp://scottjarvis.com/page105.htm00:07
linuxthefishskribblezatcha all sensors are normal temp :/00:07
linuxthefishafter resume00:07
linuxthefishwait, temp7 is 90'C00:08
skribblezatchado you have a multicore pc?00:08
linuxthefishduel core00:08
skribblezatchaok, cool. do you happen to have the sensors plugin installed?00:09
linuxthefishlm-sensors?00:09
linuxthefishit's freezing cold air out PC and the 2nd highest temp is 25'c :/00:09
skribblezatchano, within your panel, let me share a screenshot real quick. mind you this is upup raring 3.9.9.2 but i am running xfce 4.10.2 on it, so the same plugins are available for xubuntu. one sec.00:10
ScottsDeskAnyone have a nice script to run that will do all the basic things to install or add to a new install?00:10
Pappy55ukso is it essential to learn the terminal?00:11
ScottsDesk90c ? thats aweful hot is it not?00:11
skribblezatchahttp://picpaste.com/Screenshot_-_04052014_-_08_10_11_PM-jDtLj6pj.png  see the sensors plugin showing the temp in the shot linuxthefish?00:11
linuxthefishno i don't have that :(00:12
skribblezatchaits a very good thing Pappy55uk, but take your time learning it. go and read online when you want to know something, etc. using linux and a need to know basis will teach you.00:12
skribblezatchaok, well thats something that you may want to add to the panel linuxthefish, if you want?00:12
ScottsDeskim glad i grew up in the command line era... god can you imagine once we all die there wont be any real help out there... it will be just advanced users00:12
linuxthefishskribblezatcha but is there any way to fix super high speed fan?00:13
skribblezatcharun this command linuxthefish, sudo apt-get install xfce4-goodies00:13
skribblezatchai dont see why there wouldnt be linuxthefish, but its not on the pc that you are on is it?00:13
linuxthefishno, it's on my laptop00:13
skribblezatchalol ScottsDesk.00:14
ScottsDeskeveryone will just be told... ohh you must have a virus...00:14
Pappy55ukvirus on linux?00:15
ScottsDeskno00:15
Pappy55ukthere are only very few knoen oines i believe00:15
skribblezatchalets hope not ScottsDesk.00:15
linuxthefishi think i have the virus on linux laptop :/00:15
skribblezatchawhat OS do you have installed to the one having the fan issues linuxthefish?00:15
linuxthefishxubuntu00:16
skribblezatchaok cool, thanks.00:16
ScottsDeskI am so glad I moved away from windows, but you can get trojans, and backdoors even in linux... not to mention the backdoor put into most hardware wise00:16
skribblezatchayou have cleaned the fan right linuxthefish?00:17
Pappy55uki want to move away from windows00:17
linuxthefishskribblezatcha yes...00:18
Pappy55ukbut being a gamer00:18
Pappy55ukit means a lot of pain00:18
skribblezatchatrue that ScottsDesk.00:18
linuxthefishit's fine before suspending and it's fine on windows00:18
skribblezatchaok cool linuxthefish.00:18
ScottsDeski get that I really want to play dayz, but will have to wait till i put together enough extra to get a separat system for that.00:19
skribblezatchahttp://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/  check this out linuxthefish.00:21
linuxthefishpwmconfig command not found...00:22
skribblezatchadid you run the other commands first?00:22
linuxthefishyes...00:23
linuxthefishsensors works fine00:23
skribblezatchanice, you scanned them and everything?00:24
linuxthefishyes00:24
skribblezatchacool.00:24
skribblezatchayou activated the modules and all of that?00:24
linuxthefishyes, also rebooted..00:24
a_muvapower-manager is not working. Window does not show if I issue a command xfce4-power-manager, in terminal.00:27
skribblezatchalinuxthefish: see if fancontrol is in repo man, and if so install that and see if that helps.00:29
skribblezatchayes, it should be in there. i just checked.00:30
ScottsDeskWell one thing I do like is with this os is each window is separate... unbutu drove me crazy with open windows the I had to mouse all the way to the top left to shut down or manage00:35
skribblezatchai cant stand unity, i dont like gnome 3 either. so i tend to stick with the more traditional styled DE's..or those that can be made to act like one.00:36
skribblezatchaXFCE just ended up being my DE of choice because its light, stable, and has the features and things that i want in a DE.00:36
ScottsDeskyeah I was trying to actually mess with uninstalling many parts of it... but would uninstall something that was too tied to it and crash it...lol00:37
skribblezatchalol00:38
skribblezatchai did the same thing.00:38
KekaiI used to defend Ubuntu/Unity00:38
Kekaibut the later 12.04 updates made it buggy and slow00:39
ScottsDeskIm just so glad I got away from windows what a joke.. compared to this... I would rather put a little effort into installing something command line than ever go back to that fraking bloat of a joke os00:39
Kekai^00:40
KekaiI dont like that windows keeps the files from programs00:40
Kekaiit makes it bloated after a while00:41
ScottsDeskI started out msdos command line installing and slowly got used to windows, and I loved xp which in my opinion was a great os... but now you have som much crap running and installing updating in the bg f that... I decide those things00:41
skribblezatchai guess here in a few i will head back to xubuntu to check on some updates.00:50
skribblezatchabrb.00:51
skribblezatchayou can see that updates are starting to slow down for trusty a bit.00:56
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RFlemingGreetings!02:05
skribblezatchagreetings RFleming.02:06
RFlemingskribblezatcha, not a helluva lot02:06
skribblezatchai feel you man, same here. just playing some trivia.02:06
RFlemingupdated my home 14.04 today, and sure enough sound indicator not set to start :)02:06
skribblezatchalol, did you get it back though?02:06
RFlemingwas in a cribbage battle with the wife today, just put her and the kids to bed :)02:07
RFlemingskribblezatcha, checked my list :)02:07
skribblezatchathats cool..and good deal. lol02:07
RFlemingHey skribblezatcha, I've got a question that I haven't found an answer to yet.02:07
skribblezatchaok..02:08
RFleminghow does one change what the power manager displays on the notification icon?02:08
RFlemingI'd like it to show my laptop battery, but right now it's showing my mouses instead02:08
RFlemingerr mouse's02:08
RFlemingI know it switches when on battery, but I don't care about my mouse so much02:09
RFlemingmore importantly, it's showing battery settings for a keyboard that doesn't exist02:09
Kekailol02:09
RFlemingbecause of the Logitech Unified dongle I suppose02:09
`Fibzit should have 2 icons, one for laptop battery and one for mouse/keyboard battery02:10
skribblezatchai dont know, thats a good question. i was trying to figure out how to add another messenger to the message indicator on the indicator plugin.02:10
skribblezatchamine just has the one for the battery icon i believe.02:10
RFleming`Fibz, it shows all three on the same icon02:10
`Fibzhmm... not here. i got 12.04, 13.10 and 14.04 running and all have 2 separate icons, 1 for UPS/laptop battery and one for wireless keyboard / mouse battery02:11
`Fibzin xfce power settings: what is currently set for System Tray Icon?02:14
skribblezatchabrb.02:15
RFleminghttp://picpaste.com/power-y2nQHQYK.png02:15
`Fibzthat doesnt look like either of my icons02:15
RFlemingnever show02:16
`Fibzchange that if you want to see that laptop battery02:16
RFlemingthe mouse changes to the battery when discharging02:17
skribblezatchaok back.02:17
RFlemingskribblezatcha, yours look like mine?02:17
RFleminghttp://picpaste.com/power-y2nQHQYK.png02:17
RFleming`Fibz, I could do that, then I have 2 :)02:18
RFlemingtwo is one too many02:18
skribblezatchao ok, i see what you mean now. i'm not on xubuntu right now. let me shoot to it real quick. brb.02:19
`Fibzhttp://picpaste.com/systray-IteIpKey.png02:19
RFleminglol02:19
RFleming`Fibz, yeah, you have two02:19
`Fibzdo you get both when set to always show?02:21
skribblezatchais that within the indicator plugin RFleming?02:22
skribblezatchaok i see it now, when i put my battery back in.02:24
skribblezatchano, mine looks different RFleming. want to see a screenshot?02:25
RFlemingsure02:28
RFlemingmine is different when my mouse is on02:28
RFlemingsorry, not mouse... Logitech mouse/keyboard unified dongle02:29
skribblezatchawell this is a laptop too so.02:29
skribblezatchahttp://picpaste.com/Screenshot_-_04052014_-_10_30_17_PM-eI0mZhjN.png02:31
skribblezatchasee? mine just has the battery there.02:31
RFlemingOk, gotta do a few things.02:32
RFlemingbbiab02:32
skribblezatchatake it easy man.02:32
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CyborgCygnusCan you mount a directory folder as a USB DISK? I can't get shared folders working in virtualbox & want to attempt mounting a Virtual Disk Drive instead seeing as the VM can pick up USB Drives.03:31
holsteinCyborgCygnus: you should be able to mount as you please, and as the technology dictates.. what is not working with a vbox share?03:32
CyborgCygnusholstein, In the VM's settings I setup a shared folder, I have installed the oracle virtual box guest additions as well as the extensions which got usb disks working but however when in the VM I attempt to mount the shared folder through the terminal & it won't work. Also this version is supposed to be drag & drop capable between host - guest, it's set to be bidirectional yet that also doesn't work. Hope that makes sense.03:34
CyborgCygnusAlso I'm probably not supposed to but I'm running the ovb (Oracle Virtual Box) as root.03:36
holsteinCyborgCygnus: i dont think you should have to mount in the terminal like that03:36
holsteinCyborgCygnus: i would expect to need guest additions, which you have.. then, i would think it would "just work"..03:36
CyborgCygnusAm I supposed to add permissions  in the host? Well it says it should auto mount shared folders but nothing happens. I've restarted the VM a million times, reinstalled guest additions & the extensions yet nothing.03:37
holsteinis this the virtualbox in the repos?03:37
CyborgCygnusYes03:37
holsteinCyborgCygnus: i dont think its much of a permissions thing like that..03:37
CyborgCygnusholstein, Okay. Version 4.3.603:38
holsteinCyborgCygnus: i agree, it "should" auto-mount03:38
holsteinCyborgCygnus: both host and guest are linux?03:38
CyborgCygnusYep03:38
CyborgCygnusBoth xubuntu 14.0403:38
holsteinlol.. best case scenario, you would think03:39
CyborgCygnusI know right.03:39
holsteinthough, i have not run vbox on 14.04, yet.. i suppose that could be broken03:39
skribblezatchagoodnight everyone and God bless.03:51
ScottsDeskHello I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to monitor a internet data connection with xubuntu, I want to monitor from the router endpoint like I guess it would be via the ip address assigned to me?04:56
ScottsDeskthis way I see all traffic even possible hidden outside my machine04:56
`Fibzwireshark and etherape04:57
`Fibzand thousands of other tools04:58
ScottsDeskcan it be installed on xubuntu... I tried it and kept getting a message that I needed winpcap installed?04:58
`Fibzsourceforge.net is full of them. some are in the xubuntu repository and can be installed through software center04:59
`FibzScottsDesk, yes, check ubuntu software ceneter04:59
`Fibzcenter*04:59
ScottsDeskok04:59
ScottsDeskbut the winpcap issue...05:00
ScottsDesk?05:00
`Fibzwhat kind of monitoring did you have in mind?05:00
`Fibzpcap gets installed when you install something that needs it (like wireshark)05:01
ScottsDeskwell like wireshark... trying to locate possible hidden hardware enabled on a server inside the network thats connecting to a server... but dont know where05:02
ScottsDeskthere is a possible server with a hardware installed in the bios that can be enabled outside and once inside well you know05:04
ScottsDeskinside my network05:04
`Fibzyou might be interested in kali linux, you can just run it as a live disk. it has all these security tools pre-installed: http://www.kali.org/05:06
`Fibzbut you dont need it. kali is built on ubuntu. everything in kali can be installed on xubuntu05:06
`Fibz(built on ubuntu but not supported by canonical)05:07
Unit193No, Kali is Debian stable based.05:07
`Fibzis it?05:07
nonubywhats the service the automount usb drives (I can see it with sudo fdisk -l as fat32), i suspect I may have removed something in attempts to optimize power/boot05:07
Unit193`Fibz: Oh yeah.05:07
`Fibzcould have sworn i saw ubuntu in the cli05:07
`Fibzwell the theory still stands.   everything included in kali can be installed on xubuntu.05:08
ScottsDeskbest I can tell its a intel atm type hardware or on some like its also installed on some amd systems... its remote admin basically but hardware so its hidden even from the os so05:09
ScottsDeskanyone know how other than unplug everything disable it once I locate it?05:11
`Fibzthere are plenty of other rooms with better knowledge of security issues. #security or ##networking being examples05:11
`Fibzif it's running a signed cert you wont get much with wireshark alone05:13
`Fibzetherape will help pinpoint05:14
ScottsDeskill try both and see05:16
`Fibzthere is also nmap and zenmap05:18
xubuntu138hello05:22
`Fibzhi05:22
xubuntu138ran into a bump when switching to xubuntu on my machine is it ok to ask fro help here?05:23
`Fibzthis is the xubuntu help channel. go for it?05:24
xubuntu138well I can seem to get my printer to work properly. It's an Ricoh Aficio 1515fm network printer, but the default driver doesn't work.05:24
xubuntu138any ideas?05:25
`Fibzdoesnt work as in doesnt install?05:25
xubuntu138Well xbunut finds it in the network and uses a default driver, but instead of printing the test page it prints out a whole bunch of gibberish.05:26
`Fibzis it possible to try printing from it locally?05:28
xubuntu138hmmm haven't tried05:28
xubuntu138But then again it's an office printer so i don't think i get acces to plug my computer directly to the printer05:29
`Fibzi thought not05:30
xubuntu138oh well guess i'll try later. thanks05:33
CyborgCygnusholstein, Finally painstakingly mounted the share folder in a terminal with sudo & also copied my file into it with sudo mv source destination as it wouldn't let me drag & drop without permissions.06:10
icicciociao a tutti10:47
acesbatmanhello, anyone awake that feels able to help someone out?11:03
cfhowlett!askacesbatman11:04
cfhowlett!ask|acesbatman11:04
ubottuacesbatman: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:04
acesbatmanHehe, ok.  I see how it is. :P  The thing I need help with is, I original tried Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit last year around November, then went to 64bit and back again, and updates galore, trying to solve 3 main issues I been having.  1 being the notorious Nvidia drivers, and the fact I am on an old mobo that seems to not like how Ubuntu uses ACPI, and my old 560 Ti graphics card started flaking out and basically said it had enough of this crap, and w11:13
acesbatmanill black out randomly while booted up to desktop once I updated the graphics driver to 331.  Thats when I started having the major problems.  But the minor problems was ACPI, and Pulseaudio issues over VOIP programs like Skype and such.  Anyways to make my story short, I switched to xubuntu as hearing it was light weight, and indeed it is, and runs almost perfect.   Then I been told I should upgrade to latest, and some opinions got thrown into the11:13
acesbatman mix, now I am on Xubuntu 14.04 LTS, and now I am being told that this is just beta and pre-release.  I also hear alot that LTS is better and more stable to be using.  But I have many problems, and I would like to get help for each 1 at a time, and possibly be able to use my 560 again, and not be on my older graphics card.11:13
cfhowlettacesbatman 14.04 is indeed in beta = final release scheduled for 04/17/1411:13
cfhowlettacesbatman 560>11:14
cfhowlett?11:14
acesbatmanGTX 560 Ti11:14
acesbatmanI reverted back to an older card because of it11:14
cfhowlettacesbatman what is your computer make/model11:15
acesbatmanits home built, so how would you want me to tell it?  Specs?11:15
cfhowlettacesbatman good to know.  describe your problems11:16
acesbatmanWell, Skype and another program I used had voip only problems, like crackling or robotic voice, or to best describe it, sounding like when a pc is about to crash in a game, and you got the BSOD... and sounds constantly repeating.  It did not do this all the time, but this was one of the first major problems I had.  The second problem I had was random freezing, but only in firefox and 3d graphic intense games.  The freezes only lasted for maybe 1 se11:22
acesbatmancond to 15 seconds depending.  The other issue I am having right now is overheating, but that is to be expected with this particular graphics card I am using, but I am unaware of it having these issues on the 560.  The other issue was, getting the right nvidia drivers, which I eventually fixed several times.  Then I ran fwts, just recently, and it had a few errors and warnings with the DSDT and the ACPI.  Anyways, I just want my system back to a st11:22
acesbatmanable setup, and if possible, get it to not freeze anymore, and no more overheating and worries, and swat some bugs, if you know what I mean.11:22
cfhowlettacesbatman what ubuntu did you have previously?11:24
acesbatmanI have only tried, Unity, KDE, and the Desktops, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, GNOME, and KUbuntu....  I tried those,  and so far I am liking Xubuntu the most, as it is using less CPU which was the other problem I forgot to mention.11:25
cfhowlett!lubuntu|acesbatman it's optimized for older/lower specification hardware11:26
ubottuacesbatman it's optimized for older/lower specification hardware: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.11:26
acesbatmanOk, cut to the chase, 4GB RAM, 2.8Ghz Duel Core AMD Athlon, 150GB 10000 RPM HD, and GTX 260 OC, was using a 560 Ti... whats the recommended Desktop for that configuration on a 2009 Mobo?11:28
cfhowlettacesbatman lubuntu11:28
cfhowlett14.04 will be supported for long-term.  13.10 is current11:29
acesbatmanwait, I am on Xubuntu though, minus the issues I have been having its been pretty light on me, Ubuntu was the Desktop environment that was giving me the most trouble11:31
acesbatmancan Lubuntu run 3d games and steam, and skype, and youtube stuff pretty good?11:31
cfhowlettacesbatman lubuntu = ubuntu with different desktop environment.  if the underlying system supports it, the windows environment is merely eye candy.  windows environment does not "run" anything11:32
cfhowlettacesbatman test it yourself.11:33
cfhowlettsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop11:33
cfhowlettthen logout, choose lubuntu session, login11:33
acesbatmanI thought xubuntu was the lightweight and that lubuntu was going to be dropped?11:35
cfhowlettacesbatman  1.  right.  2.  Hell no.11:36
acesbatmaneh, I did not have major problems with xubuntu though, it runs fast, its just the high temps on my graphics card, and the ACPI issue I am having with the power, I saw on a post online that Gigabyte motherboards have issues with Ubuntu in general and Linux in general because its meant for Windows, but I am trying to avoid windows11:40
acesbatmanI am referring to my results on the fwts test, I do not know what to do to correct the problems it is reporting, and unable to find anything online about it, except people talking about UEFI, and my system is not UEFI11:51
cfhowlettacesbatman so you have a gigabyte mobo?11:52
acesbatmanyes11:52
cfhowlettacesbatman can't help you.11:53
cfhowlettsorry11:53
acesbatmanknow where I can get help for it?11:53
cfhowlettacesbatman try main channel11:53
cfhowlett#ubuntu11:53
acesbatmanok11:53
acesbatmanthanks11:53
RFlemingGreetings14:20
cfhowlettRFleming and you14:20
RFlemingThanks cfhowlett14:21
cfhowlettRFleming ask your ubuntu questions14:28
peyamhi14:52
RFlemingHi peyam14:53
peyamis it anyone here that has time to edit a theme for xubuntu. I struggled with it alot but dont get the wanted result?14:53
peyamhttp://sixsixfive.deviantart.com/art/simpliX-346404452 this is the theme and My commect there is the issues ive been working on14:55
peyamhttp://sixsixfive.deviantart.com/art/simpliX-34640445214:55
peyamops. sorry dubble paste14:56
RFlemingI don't know how to theme for xubuntu, sorry.14:58
cfhowlettRFleming www.xfce-look.org has a forum15:00
skribblezatchahi.15:09
RFlemingskribblezatcha! ;)15:10
skribblezatchaRFleming :)15:10
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AzelphurHas anyone noticed that Xubuntu seems to miss windows from the task list occasionally for no apparent reason?15:50
GridCubeAzelphur, are you sure that those windows are not in different virtual desktops?15:51
AzelphurGridCube: yup, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2014/Apr/2014-04-06-165149_5120x1440_scrot.png15:52
Azelphurnotice...where's the terminal at?15:52
GridCubewhat is that icon with a white square with a blue line?15:54
Azelphuramusingly...it's gedit (it never seems to get the icon right for gedit)15:54
AzelphurGridCube: ah, I found something interesting, if I tick "Show windows on all monitors", it perks up15:55
Azelphurwhich is bizarre, as...it's obviously on that monitor.15:55
* GridCube doesn't know that far15:56
GridCubeAzelphur, i would recommend you to fill a bug report15:56
Azelphuryea, sounds like a bug report job, you are right15:56
kallehi all17:29
kalleneed help to set up xorg second vga screen with matrox g45017:29
GridCubekalle, do so with arandr17:30
kallegrid...the problem is that only one screen is shown17:32
kalleit is cloned17:32
kallei see exactly the same on both screens17:32
kallei need a xorg.conf example17:32
GridCubekalle, as said, use arandr, you can drag the windows, one to the side of the other, not overlapping17:34
KombuchaKipHey folks. After many years of people asking, I am attempting to implement this feature request for Simple Scan. Please show your support on the Launchpad page if you are affected by this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/48339117:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 483391 in Simple Scan "Extract text using optical character recognition (OCR)" [Wishlist,In progress]17:34
kallegridcube....i checked arandr already...it does not show a second screen...it only shows the "default" screen17:36
GridCubein the "output" menu does it shows the device? is it enabled?17:39
kallethats my problem17:40
kallethe output menu shows only "default"17:40
GridCubewell, theres your problem then17:41
kalleon manjaro i had it running by defining it in xorg.conf17:41
kallehow d i manualy set up X here ?17:45
bekksInstall xorg-server, done.18:11
mzrdoes anybody have experience getting VMware unity working with Xubuntu on a windows host?20:01
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brunosthi! has anybody here experienced xubuntu 13.10 being stuck at the splash screen?21:04
brunostI can open another terminal session and it works just fine but it won't start the graphical session21:04
RFlemingHey elfy21:25
elfyo/21:26
RFlemingPerhaps you have an answer :)21:27
RFlemingwhat's the expected behaviour of Maximize on a tiled window?21:28
skribblezatchabrunost: what commands have you entered to try and get to the desktop?21:28
elfyRFleming: not sure tbh - seems to just go back to 'my setting' if I maximize a tiled window21:30
RFlemingelfy, I was expecting it to maximize to fill the whole screen.  I get the same as you with all apps except Chrome, in which Chrome does nothing21:30
RFlemingIf I unsnap the tile, then maximize ... err, maximizes21:30
elfyyep21:31
RFlemingodd behaviour21:31
elfyhttps://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1008421:31
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 10084 in General "Tiling a maximised window dows not update the libwnck WNCK_WINDOW_IS_MAXIMIZED flag" [Minor,New]21:32
elfytied up with that perhaps21:32
skribblezatchafullscreen takes away the maximize, minimize, and close buttons up at the top of the window it appears RFleming.21:32
elfyfullscreen or maximise21:32
elfyand I see maximise buttons in fullscreen21:33
elfythough I'm not using a released version21:33
brunostskribblezatcha: it does work if I run startxfce4 in the terminal21:33
brunostbut lightdm fails to start21:34
skribblezatchathose disappear for me in fullscreen mode..atleast this chat window.21:34
skribblezatchaok cool brunost. one sec. i cant get out of fullscreen mode now. lol21:34
brunostlightdm.log outputs cant fint session 'xubuntu' failed to find session configuration lightdm-gtk-greeter failed to create greater session21:35
skribblezatchais that what was originally installed brunost, lightdm?21:35
skribblezatchait also covers the panels in fullscreen mode.21:35
skribblezatchai wish that i knew how to do get out of it.:|21:36
brunostseems like it as it was a stock installation of xubuntu 13.1021:36
skribblezatchaok cool brunost. yeah thats odd. i dont know.21:36
RFlemingelfy, It's maximize21:39
RFlemingI've been doing more experimenting21:39
RFlemingit seems that if I snap something to the right and hit maximize, it does just that21:40
RFlemingif I snap up, left or down, it'll snap back to right.21:40
elfyI don't get snap left or right here21:40
RFlemingthat's because you have the workspace switchet set21:41
elfyprobably ...21:42
RFlemingerr... what's that called... workspace wrapping21:42
elfyyea - of course - I'm being late at night here ... workspaces wrap21:42
RFlemingI've set a hotkey of Super-<arrow keys> for tiling21:43
elfyfirefox - tiled, maximise sets it to original size prior to tiling21:45
RFlemingelfy, and it appears the window manager keyboard shortcut for maximize doesn't work at all.21:45
RFlemingAlt+F7 is supposed to maximize window21:45
elfymaximise first then dragging to tile it sets it to original size21:45
RFlemingAlt-F5 and Alt-F6 work21:46
elfyalt+f7 does nothing here - but tahr might be set differently and it's too late at night to be checking21:46
RFlemingI don't know if this is an Xubuntu thing, or an XFCE thing21:47
uxhello21:49
uxjust installed xubuntu, it had some bugs21:50
TheSheep!bugs | ux21:50
ubottuux: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.21:50
RFlemingelfy, seems to be an old bug... bug 992579 seems to encapsulate the behaviour21:51
ubottubug 992579 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "XFCE4: Hotkey for "Maximize Window" ignored, Application Hotkeys delayed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99257921:51
RFlemingalso seems to be assigned to xfce-bugs #4695 :)21:51
ubottubug 4695 in wpasupplicant (Ubuntu) "wpa_gui is missing" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/469521:51
RFlemingbad link ubottu :)21:51
RFleminghttps://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469521:52
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 4695 in Keyboard Settings "Window Manager and Keyboard settings can be configured to use overlapping keys" [Minor,Reopened]21:52
uxfailed to install grub!!21:52
TheSheep!!!!21:52
TheSheepux: I recently noticed that when enabling 'download updates' at the beginning helps with that21:53
TheSheepux: but only if it's the same problem as I had, that it couldn't find the grub package21:54
TheSheepux: you can check the logs in /var/log/syslog21:54
RFlemingelfy, solution is in Comment #5... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/992579/comments/5  Alt-F10 is indeed still set to Maximize21:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 992579 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "XFCE4: Hotkey for "Maximize Window" ignored, Application Hotkeys delayed" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:54
uxthanks TheSheep Ill look into it21:55
uxwow thats a bit log trying to find it21:59
TheSheepux: look at the end22:00
uxi repaired grub at command line22:14
CyborgCygnusBest way to refresh a users account or copy their account data to a new account?22:14
uxhow do I change this long ugly name?  /dev/mapper/pdc_bdjajeabgd522:16
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TheXHello Is there anyway to get the "Nun Lock" key to boot with Xubuntu?23:10
ochosiyou can use numlockx and put it into autostart23:16
TheXnumlockx Worked great Thanks..23:32
ochosino problem23:33
simpleuserHi there. Someone told me he can use his mouse to interact with weechat/irssi. I can’t. He told me it could be linked to the multiplexer but it’s the same without byobu. I tried on Guake and xfce4-terminal. Any idea? Or was it an april joke? :)23:37
ochosifor me scrolling with the mousewheel is the same as arrow up/down (i.e. going through previous posts)23:40
ochosiother than that i don't have much mouse interaction (apart from hyperlinks obviously)23:40
simpleuserYeah, I don’t talk about scrolling but interacting with a menu for example23:42

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