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workingwriterHi folks, first time here. Seeing an issue when installing the Ubuntu SDK on Kubuntu Trusty beta 2. After installing Beta 2 in a VirtualBox (Windows 7 host), I update to the latest. After a restart, I install the SDK. Next time I login, before loading the desktop, I receive a text box reading "Could not start D_Bus. Can you call qdbus?'00:54
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workingwriterI am then kicked back to the login screen. I am new enough to (K)ubuntu that I have no idea how to log in with any other setting, so I'm dead in the water. 00:55
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valorieworkingwriter: how did you install ubuntu? install ubuntu-desktop?01:32
workingwriterkubuntu-desktop02:03
workingwriterfrom the iso02:03
workingwriterTo be precise: kubuntu-14.04-beta2-desktop-i386.iso02:08
valorieworkingwriter: you've confused me02:43
valoriethe "ubuntu SDK" or Kubuntu?02:43
valoriebecause *U*buntu comes with unity02:44
valoriekubuntu is KDE02:44
valoriehowever, you might have run into the bug I did a couple of days ago02:44
workingwritervalorie: Installed the Ubuntu SDK on Kubuntu. The SDK (for creating apps) runs on Qt5. 02:45
valoriei'll look up what I did -- I think it was a qt5 mismatch or something02:45
workingwriterThe SDK was obtained through the standard repo.02:46
valoriesudo apt-get install qdbus-qt5 qt4-default02:47
valoriethis solved my problem02:47
valoriethere again, you are confusing me: did you install kubuntu, then `ubuntu-desktop` also?02:48
valorieif so, you should be able to choose between them on startup02:48
valorieoooooo, you got this: http://developer.ubuntu.com/02:49
valorieI see02:49
workingwriterDid not install ubuntu-desktop, just Kubuntu.  Yes-the developer tool.02:49
valorieso you are going to develop apps for unity/ubuntu phone?02:49
workingwriterPossibly. Don't know much, but think it's an opportunity to learn. 02:50
valoriebecause if not, we offer kdevelop, Qt Creator for qt stuff02:51
valoriesome devels like one, some the other02:51
workingwriterThat's part of why I'm confused about getting the SDK to work -- it's a modified Qt Creator, with  an Ubuntu page.02:52
valorieit sounds like your ubuntu sdk isn't playing nice with qdbus02:52
valorietry what I did; you can always reverse that if it doesn't help02:53
workingwriterExactly. I will try the qdbus install02:53
valoriecool02:53
tsimpsonthe ubuntu sdk thing is just a few libraries along with a plugin for creator, but it depends on all the Qt5 stuff along with qt5-default02:53
valoriethat looks like a nice app for developing ubuntu unity and ubuntu phone applications02:53
tsimpson(which should probably pull in qdbus-qt5)02:53
tsimpsonprobably = doesn't, but I wish it did02:54
valoriewell, somebody somewhere made a packaging error I think02:54
valorieI reported it thoroughly on LP02:54
valorieas did others with the same problem02:54
valorieproblems02:54
tsimpsonI really don't like how qtchooser installs a bunch of links in /usr/bin regardless of if the actual package providing the binary is installed02:55
workingwriterShould I chime in on your bug, or add a bug/request for qdbus-qt5 support?02:55
valoriethat's up to you; I filed against02:57
valorieum, what did I file against02:57
valorienot that, so maybe that's a good place to file02:57
valorieand it obv. isn't fixed yet02:57
workingwriterI will throw that on the todo list for tomorrow. Thanks for your help valorie and tsimpson!03:00
valorienice to talk with you workingwriter03:01
valoriethanks for introducing me to an application I didn't know existed03:01
workingwriterGlad to be of help! 8-)03:02
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lordievaderGood morning.05:50
apacheloggerScottK, Sput: bug 129987206:18
ubottubug 1299872 in quassel (Ubuntu) "Quassel Client won't start with recent updates (3/30/2014)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129987206:18
apachelogger(I have not actually read anything but the title :P)06:18
apacheloggerRiddell: have you looked at scarlett's kolab backportery? or are you going to?06:42
apacheloggeror, have you seen the mail? :P06:42
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1258422] Maximized windows go under panel if panel attached to screen edge between two monitors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258422 (by kolen)06:49
soeegood morning06:51
jussiapachelogger: you may want to buy a bigger stick...06:53
apacheloggeroi06:53
jussimorning soee06:53
apacheloggermy stick is big enough06:53
jussiapachelogger: then you are using it wrong :P06:54
apacheloggerhow dare you06:54
apacheloggerI should have you reported for inappropriate talk in an ubuntu channel06:54
apacheloggeroutragous06:54
jussiapachelogger: I wa actually talking about your mail... 06:54
jussibut yeah06:54
apachelogger:O06:55
valoriewhy does this make me think of the two doctors comparing the size of their sonic screwdrivers?06:55
apacheloggerstop reading spam06:55
apacheloggervalorie: because they are cool?06:56
* apachelogger needs more coffee06:56
valorieindeed06:56
* apachelogger writes some glib code :'<07:01
Sputapachelogger: ah. now that one has a bit more information than the first time I saw it :P07:07
Sputapachelogger: could you have the users try out if the client starts with minimized window (e.g. by having them click on the tray icon or however you restore a minimized window in Unity)?07:07
apacheloggerSput: seems unlikely since the unity dock thing would control that, so trying to start it again would maximize AFAIK, but yeah, asking07:09
Sputapachelogger: it's the only thing I could imagine, and as there were some window-state related changes (and we had one Mac user reporting that Quassel would start minimized on a fresh install for him), there may be something weird like that07:11
* apachelogger really wonders why qapt would use qgst rather than gst07:25
apacheloggerRiddell: btw, I think the so-name of phonon gstreamer needs to be changed07:26
apacheloggerright now if someone reports a bug it is not at all obvious to upstream that this is not the actual 4.7 as released07:27
yofelmoin07:36
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yofelI wonder if graphics driver programmers have something against me. My intel notebook has intel issues: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7215967/ and nvidia is being really funny:07:46
yofel[420356.589] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to allocate primary buffer: out of memory.07:46
yofel[420356.590] (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***07:46
yofelwell, the intel/mesa issue is at least getting fixed07:51
apacheloggerxnox: pingsies, does on-demand gstreamer plugin installation work on ubuntu? it appears to me libgstreamer constructs install details that define the version as 1.0 whereas the packages have Gstreamer-Version: 1.207:53
apacheloggere.g. ("/usr/bin/gstreamer-codec-install", "--transient-for=85983307", "gstreamer|1.0|dragon|H.264 decoder|decoder-video/x-h264, stream-format=(string)avc, alignment=(string)au, level=(string)3.1, profile=(string)high", "gstreamer|1.0|dragon|MPEG-4 AAC decoder|decoder-audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)4, framed=(boolean)true, stream-format=(string)raw, level=(string)2, base-profile=(string)lc, profile=(string)lc") 07:53
apacheloggerand at least our plugin install handler does a comparision between the version that was requested (1.0) and the version a package is associated with (1.2) and thus discards all gstreamer1.0 packages as possible candiates07:54
valoriei decided to seed the beta2 torrents for a fellow with a slow connection, and they both are almost at 100%08:05
valorielooks like a week ago; that seems fast for betas08:06
xnoxapachelogger: hm.08:11
* jussi wonders if markey or Mamarok are around? 08:38
* markey_work waves08:38
* Mamarok is08:46
apacheloggerxnox: I think the packaging is wrong, if I look at gst-libavl I see "./configure:GST_API_VERSION=1.0" which is the version that we supposedly care about according to http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/data/doc/gstreamer/head/gst-plugins-base-libs/html/gst-plugins-base-libs-gstpbutilsinstallplugins.html08:52
apachelogger> plugin system version, e.g. "0.10"08:52
apachelogger> This is required so that when there is a GStreamer-0.12 or GStreamer-1.0 at some point in future, the different major versions can still co-exist and use the same plugin install mechanism in the same way.08:52
xnoxapachelogger: so where/how do you believe this should be fixed?08:55
apacheloggerxnox: libgstreamer1.0's debian/gst-codec-info.c sets the gstreamer:Version substvar to the values reported by gst_version(...) that probably needs changing to harcoding09:06
apacheloggerin 0.1x gst_version was always the same as the api version, however in 1.x we now have api version 1.0 but gstreamer version 1.209:07
Peace-hi :)09:07
Riddellapachelogger: oor bcooksley has some issues with the l10n kcm09:08
Riddell08:46 < bcooksley-away> Riddell: the l10n module, yes - in particular it's functionality to configure IBus and the like09:08
Riddellapachelogger: you mean confusion between phonon gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 needs the soname changed?09:08
Riddellapachelogger: I can look at scarlett's kolab if you don't get to it first09:09
apacheloggerRiddell: busy doing gstreamer09:09
Riddellbusy bee09:10
xnoxapachelogger: i see what you mean.09:16
xnoxapachelogger: so, gst-codec-info needs to s/minor/0/, then rebuild all plugins, test that discovery of plugins works? i'll throw that into a ppa to test.09:17
xnoxapachelogger: and debian needs the same fix?09:18
apacheloggeryeah, probably applies to debian as well09:18
apacheloggerxnox: s/minor/0/ might not be enough though, it needs absolute hardcoding09:19
apacheloggere.g. 1.3 could bump the API version09:19
apacheloggerthen you need s/minor/3/, at which point it might be better to simply hardcode the entire version somewhere visible09:19
xnoxapachelogger: well i'm assuming upstream is sensible and will keep the major at 1 and still be compatible =))))09:20
apacheloggermaybe ;)09:21
* apachelogger adds workaround09:21
apacheloggerRiddell: I also fixed a bug which prevented auto-reload of plugins ... ultimately one should now be able to run dragon, select a file, get a codec query, install the packages, and dragon will automatically retry the file (i.e. no restarts required)09:21
apachelogger... as it was expected to work -.-09:21
Riddellapachelogger: awooga!09:27
Riddellapachelogger: but every get plugin program has the need-to-restart issue no? amarok and gwenview do certainly09:28
apacheloggeryes, I just used dragon as an example09:28
apacheloggerthey will all reload their plugin caches after installation09:28
apacheloggerthe logic and everything was always there, the installer just returned with the wrong value09:29
Riddell"Adam Conrad (adconrad) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2015-04-14" yay infinity still loves us!09:29
* Riddell looks round for infinity09:29
Riddell"Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman (fenris) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2015-04-13" another most unknown still loves us!09:30
Mamarokcan somebody point me where I should file a bug to the currently shipped parted 2.3 package? Apparently Launchpad doesn't let me, and if I file it upstream I will get the answer "use the altest version" which is a no go, as post 2.4 one can't create filesystems anymore with parted09:30
Riddellthat seems quite a limitation09:30
MamarokI am really desperate, there seems to be no way to make a partition on this disk09:30
yofelMamarok: define 'doesn't let me' ?09:30
RiddellMamarok: you can use ubuntu-bug no?09:30
Mamaroknope, as launchpad tells me parted bgs are tracked upstream only09:31
Mamarokwhich is just a snak bitting its own tail09:31
Mamaroksnake*09:31
yofelMamarok: are you trying to report a bug against the parted project possibly?09:32
Mamarokand really, having a completeyl broeken parted seems to be really critical to me, doesn't it?09:32
yofelplease report it against the package09:32
MamarokI am trying to file a bug against parted, which is shiped by Ubuntu, but you can't file the bug as launchpad tells you to file it upstream09:32
Mamarokwell, then I am just too dumb to use Launchpad, sorry, can somebody tell me a link on how on earth I do that?09:33
yofelMamarok: please run 'ubuntu-bug parted' in konsole09:33
yofelsee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for the documentation09:34
Mamarokcan't apport crasehs every time09:34
Mamarokcrashes*09:34
yofelIIRC it crashed after sending the report...09:34
yofelanyway, next try09:34
yofelif ubuntu-bug doesn't work, use apport-cli parted09:34
Mamarokwait, now I see a possibility to add a summary, lasted like forever09:35
yofelyeah, launchpad takes a while to process the information09:35
Mamarokso let's try to run gdb to get a backtrace...09:40
Mamarokgah, how do I run gdb for an application which only runs as root, is "sudo gdb" enough?09:50
apacheloggerMamarok: yes09:51
Mamarokthere: bug 130369309:55
ubottubug 1303693 in parted (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/partitionmanager-bin': free(): invalid pointer: 0x0000000002786000 ***" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130369309:55
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1258422] Maximized windows go under panel if panel attached to screen edge between two monitors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258422 (by kolen)10:08
apachelogger  Uploading libqapt_2.1.70-0ubuntu3_source.changes: done.10:46
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.10:46
BluesKaj'Morning all10:56
apachelogger  Uploading baloo_4.12.97-0ubuntu2_source.changes: done.12:31
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.12:31
Riddellapachelogger: what's new?12:31
apacheloggerRiddell: git commits up until now12:32
Riddellhi sgclark 12:52
Riddellsgclark: I copied your kolab over12:52
sgclarkRiddell: good morning :)12:52
sgclarkRiddell: thanks!12:52
apachelogger  Uploading kubuntu-driver-manager_14.04ubuntu6_source.changes: done.12:53
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.12:53
apacheloggerfixes bug 1303209 and visualization when only one driver is available12:53
ubottubug 1303209 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "No drivers shown, but I know there are drivers available" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130320912:53
apachelogger  Uploading kubuntu-notification-helper_14.04ubuntu11_source.changes: done.12:56
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.12:56
apacheloggerfixes same bug12:56
Riddellyay12:57
sgclarkRiddell: I noticed kde-workspce-kf5 is still broken, did you get https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kubuntu/kubuntu_packaging/kde-workspace-kf5/12:59
Riddellpossibly not sgclark 13:01
Riddellthis spiferoak site doesn't seem to download very fast13:04
sgclarkRiddell: rather slow on the uploads as well13:06
apacheloggerfor some reason qapt didn't upload earlier :(13:11
* apachelogger fix0red13:11
apacheloggerRiddell: what do we do about the libreoffice kaputness?13:14
apacheloggerstop seeding the kde thing?13:14
Riddellug :(13:14
Riddellbut ug that it breaks randomly13:15
Riddellget bjoern michaelsen to revert libreoffice?13:15
apacheloggerRiddell: feel free to conduct the poking for that :P13:15
apacheloggerRiddell: there's also the chance that it's the qt patch rather than a change in LO13:16
Riddellyep13:16
apacheloggerbjoern mentioned in the bug report that there weren't a lot of changes in the kde things IIRC13:16
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apacheloggerRiddell: oh, apparently he identified the offending commit already13:35
ScottKapachelogger: Seems from the KDE release thread we want to update akonadi and baloo to git head, at the very least.13:35
apacheloggeralso https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7712813:35
ubottuFreedesktop bug 77128 in graphics stack "LibreOffice fails to start on KDE4" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]13:35
apacheloggerScottK: baloo is already uploaded13:35
apacheloggerakonadi probably will have to wait until tomorrow13:35
ScottKCool.13:35
ScottKI might get to it today.13:35
Riddellapachelogger: bjoern has?13:36
ScottKFixing ruby crap ATM.13:36
apacheloggeralso baloo had some interface retractions so rdeps of libbaloofile4 will need some testing13:36
apacheloggerRiddell: yes13:36
apacheloggerRiddell: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7712813:36
ubottuFreedesktop bug 77128 in graphics stack "LibreOffice fails to start on KDE4" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]13:36
Riddellcool13:36
Riddellhmm, akonadi is supposedly at a stable release13:37
yofelright, but from what I read you want at least 1.12.1, which isn't released yet. So git head it is13:38
yofel.12 git head13:39
* apachelogger imagines QA on akonadi is a bit hard13:40
alleeapachelogger: baloo not at git KDE/4.13 AFAIK.   But I can confirm that branch KDE/4.13 is much better than rc (fixed 2 bugs for me)13:49
alleereleasing trusty with baloo from rc1 would not be a good idea IMHO 13:50
apacheloggerthat's why I uploaded baloo with patchery13:51
alleeapachelogger: ah.  so will soon appear on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/baloo13:55
apacheloggerone would hope13:57
apacheloggerprobably stuck in some weird prerelease queue13:57
apacheloggerbecause you know, the release team doesn't trust me :P13:57
apacheloggerbecause you know, the release team doesn't trust me :P13:58
apacheloggerthat wasn't the wrong window at all13:58
allee:-)13:58
ScottKapachelogger: Accepted now.14:05
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alleeScottK: thx.   apachelogger: baloo build an published on all archs,   so triggering the rebuilds of rdepends would be great!14:43
apachelogger(needs testing, they may not actually use the symbols in question)14:46
apacheloggerotherwise I doubt they would ahve been retracted ^^14:46
ScottKapachelogger: That would be true assuming sound software engineering practices.14:50
alleeapachelogger: try to rate a jpg in dolphin. With baloo ...ubuntu1 it works with git pkg rebuild, I get a dolphin crash after 3-4sec14:51
Riddellsgclark: yay kde-workspace-kf5 compiled14:51
apacheloggerallee: might need a rebuild then14:53
apacheloggerbest had been rebuilt anyway I reckon14:53
apacheloggerSO14:53
apacheloggerhow about I simply batch patch all of the affected packages tomorrow14:53
apacheloggersince we need to upload anyway, might as well pick up git changes14:54
alleerestarting the crashed dolphin shows the rating was saved before dolphin crashed14:55
sgclarkRiddell: cool, I am still messing with it in a chroot :)14:57
alleemhhm,  kaddressbook does not list any category at all anymore (still see them in owncloud webinterface).   Not sure if this is baloos fault (same for rc1)14:58
apacheloggervHanda might know15:01
vHandanot sure about the addressbook thing15:01
vHandaI doubt it is related to Baloo though15:02
vHandaallee: may I see the backtrace please?15:02
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alleevHanda: dolphin crash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7217405/   without rebuilding dolpin after baloo kde/4.13 upgrade15:09
vHandaallee: just to confirm - baloo has been rebuilt?15:19
alleevHanda: yes, my git checkout of baloo from last friday evening15:20
vHandawould you mind helping me debug this?15:20
vHandaI'll need you to do the following - $ gdb dolphin15:20
vHanda> catch throw15:21
vHanda> run15:21
vHandaand try to get it to crash, it'll tell you when an exception has been thrown15:21
vHandaI need to know the exception name and location.15:21
alleevHanda: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7217468/15:25
vHandaallee: backtrace please?15:27
alleevHanda:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7217488/15:31
alleevHanda: this time with libxapian-dbg installed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7217516/15:35
apacheloggerScottK: a new pam-kwallet snapshot should be in queue soonishy, it makes the package actually install something15:37
ScottKOK.15:37
vHandaallee: can you please type 'continue'. That will give you the exception name15:40
vHandathough I'm quite certain what it is15:40
alleevHanda: wait I'm confused, I've noticed I can tag txt, dir, png and jpeg in another dir without problem.   Lemme try some more ...15:42
vHandaalso, I don't think this is the cause of the crash. Cause it should not crash on 15:42
vHandathis exception, I'm clearly catching it15:42
alleevHanda:  ~/Pictures is a link (from an SSD to a big rotating disk).  When I use /home/allee/Pictures/Fun/xy.jpg in dolphin ->  crash :-(   when I the identical file but with path without a  softlink  /data/allee/Pictures/Fun/xy.jpg  taging is okay, no crash15:46
alleeI check for the exceptin name ...15:47
alleevHanda: catch, bt, continue http://paste.ubuntu.com/7217587/15:49
vHandacontinue15:49
vHandathis won't make it crash15:49
alleevHanda: 2nd continue and dolphin crashes15:50
vHandaI need the 2nd backtrace15:51
alleedownloading more dgb pkgs ...15:51
vHandabasically before each time you hit continue, get a backtrace. I need the final backtrace before it crashes15:55
alleevHanda: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7217616/15:56
alleek15:58
alleevHanda: continue;bt  listing until dolphin crashes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7217640/16:03
vHandaallee: ah! Thanks. This helps16:12
alleevHanda: :-)16:13
vHandaallee: I've committed a fix, will test more and push. Thanks again.16:16
alleevHanda: lemme know, then I'll rebuild and test.   Thx a million for working on baloo!!!16:17
vHandapushed16:18
alleevHanda: thx16:18
kdeuser56yofel: when installing qt5-default you cannot login anymore 16:54
yofelinstall qdbus-qt516:54
yofelshadeslayer_: whatever happened to solving that ^ ?16:54
RiddellMirv too :) ↑16:55
alleevHanda: successfully verified:  tagging a file in a path that contains a solflink does not crash dolphin anymore17:02
alleevHanda: but I've discovered another bug:  /home is an SSD, /data a big disk.    ~/Pictures is a softlink to the data disk.  When I open 2 dolphins windows one with  ~/Pictures/Fun/xy.jpg I see 3 stars as tagging but no x any y pixel of the picture.  When I look at the identical file via it's 'real' path /data/allee/Pictures/Fun/xy.jpg  I get no stars as tagging and I get x and y size displayed in dolphin  (I've added /data/allee to the path baloo 17:06
alleeshould index in system settings)17:06
alleevHanda: IMHO baloo should resolve softlinks in the path of a file and show the meta infos of the real path without softlinks in between17:07
kdeuser56yofel, Riddell: qt5-default (installed when installing qtcreator) prevented login for me (could not call  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qdbus, because I had not network to install package qt4-default I had to manually link to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus17:09
yofelkdeuser56: known issue17:09
yofelwe don't really have a good solution right now17:09
kdeuser56yofel: maybe patching the login component to call the absolute path?17:09
kdeuser56instead of just qdbus?17:10
yofelpossibly, and leaving everything else that needs qdbus broken17:10
yofelso, rather not17:10
kdeuser56yofel, very true :-(17:10
yofelideally qtchooser should have a fallback if qt5 qdbus isn't there, but right now it doesn't17:10
kdeuser56yofel: new users will be very confused as one simple package can break their install :-(17:11
freinhardwasn't there once a page to post cdimage test results?17:11
yofelfreinhard: iso.qa.ubuntu.com is probably what you're looking for17:12
freinhardyofel: thx!17:12
alleevHanda: screenshot: https://owncloud-test.mpe.mpg.de/~test/6.0/public.php?service=files&t=dec100834056ae481c5f4bdc0e726b4017:12
freinhardwtf? ubuntu one? on iso.qa.ubuntu.com? no openID?17:13
ScottKyofel: Wouldn't it help to have qt5-default recommend qdbus-qt5?17:13
shadeslayer_yofel: sorry, I'm not around this week, please ping Riddell/apachelogger17:15
yofelshadeslayer_: ah ok, forgot17:15
yofelScottK: looking at how there's no really good solution so far that might actually help the most :/17:15
ScottKI don't fully understand the problem, but that seems like at least it wouldn't break people's systems then.17:16
Riddellit would be nicer to have a solution that solved it for all the things qtchooser points at but it would mostly solve this major issue17:20
kdeuser56I am sticking for a local qt5/qtcreator install for now17:21
shadeslayer_maybe try putting : qdbus="QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus" in startkde17:26
tsimpsonone can use 'qdbus -qt=qt4' too17:43
kdeuser56yofel: what about adding an environement variable at startup?17:43
yofeltsimpson: that's also just a one-place fi17:44
yofelx17:44
kdeuser56yofel: when is .kde/env invoked? i guess after calling qdbus :-(17:44
yofelkdeuser56: no idea17:45
yofelshadeslayer_ tried setting it in startkde, and obviously broke qt5-default with that17:45
yofelso the only solutions that work at all are installing qdbus-qt5 or having a qt4 fallback in qtchooser17:46
shadeslayer_drat17:55
shadeslayer_yofel: what happens if you unset it before ksmserver17:55
yofelIIRC ksmserver spawns the session, so everything inside the session shouldn't have a working qdbus (AFAIK though)17:56
yofelprobably easy to test by doing that and pressing the power button in kde. If the system shuts down you have a problem17:56
shadeslayer_we live in fun and exciting times ^^18:00
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1303237] kwalletd crashed with SIGSEGV in QHash() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1303237 (by Roy Gilby)18:13
kdeuser56yofel: does kubuntu patch date/time (shown when right clicking the clock and select adjust data/time)?18:28
yofelno idea18:28
kdeuser56yofel: have a reliable way of producing a crash ..., wonder if it's an upstream bug18:28
kdeuser56yofel: if you want to try (makes kcmshell4 crash: select: adjust data and time, and select "adjust date/time automatically" and wait for the crash :-)18:30
kdeuser56yofel: click "apply" and "ok"18:30
yofelyou mean "set date and time automatically" ?18:30
kdeuser56yofel: everything affected from 4.11 to 4.13rc18:31
yofelalready enabled here18:31
kdeuser56yofel: then disable it, produces the same crash18:31
kdeuser56yofel: remember: click apply and ok (a warning message will appear, click ok) and you will get the crash18:31
yofelyeah, got it18:32
yofelfrom what I see we have place_global_config_in_etc.diff and kubuntu_avoid_zic_and_deep_copy_timezone_data.diff which modify the kcm18:34
kdeuser56yofel: I do not know which component to file the bug against18:36
kdeuser56yofel: (in kde bugtracker), anyway it seems we cannot say for sure it's an upstream bug ...18:37
kdeuser56yofel: so I will wait18:37
kdeuser56yofel: if you want I will compile without the patch when I have time, could you link me to the patch?18:37
kdeuser56(to see what it modifies)18:38
yofelthe 2 patches don't really have anything to do with the singleShot() call though, so I don't think they matter. They're in kde-workspace18:38
kdeuser56yofel: okay, which component to file against in kde bug tracker?18:40
yofelTBH, I'm clueless. I hate how workspace is split in bugzilla :(18:40
kdeuser56yofel: okay, I will ping someone on kde-devel in the next days18:41
yofelworst case you can file it against 'kde' and hope someone sees t18:41
yofel*it18:41
kdeuser56yofel: this should get better with frameworks, shouldn't it?18:42
ScottKRiddell: Would you please accept korundum.18:42
yofelhopefully18:42
yofelkdeuser56: FWIW, drkonqi points me to kde 242648 in the end18:44
ubottuKDE bug 242648 in general "Crash due to partial KAuth support in System Settings" [Crash,Reopened] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24264818:44
kdeuser56yofel: oh cool, okay18:46
Riddellsgclark: are you able to get that kf5 plasma running?18:55
Riddellsgclark: could you look at perlkde in saucy in staging ppa sometime? we'd be after a wee script to do whatever change it needs done so we can automate those backports18:55
Riddell!testers | 4.13 rc1 needs tested in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging for saucy18:56
ubottu4.13 rc1 needs tested in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging for saucy: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley  for information18:56
* mamarley will test when he gets home from work.18:56
RiddellScottK: accepted!18:57
soeewoho, will test in a few minutes18:57
sgclarkRiddell: stuck on qtquick.Window18:58
Riddellsgclark: yeah me too, I ended up installing all the qtdeclarative5 packages and that did sort it so it is in there somewhere18:59
Riddellbut would be nice to narrow it down to which one18:59
sgclarkRiddell: ok, will try to narrow down18:59
sgclarkRiddell: unsure what you mean on item #219:00
Riddellsgclark: item #2?19:21
sgclarkRiddell: perlkde19:22
Riddellsgclark: this didn't compile https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages?field.name_filter=perlkde19:22
sgclarkRiddell: oh ok :) will take a look19:23
Riddellsgclark: missing a file, needs investigation if that nepomuk file can be fixed so nepomuk compiles or needs a script written so it'll fix the .install file to not look fir it19:23
Riddellsgclark: look in kubuntu-automation/backport-hooks for similar scripts19:23
Riddelljust a sed line should be enough19:24
sgclarkRiddell: ok19:24
Kalidarnhas anyone noticed when using the NVIDIA binary driver sometimes lightdm does not start19:26
Kalidarnsometimes it does19:26
Kalidarnand a "sudo service lightdm start" always seems to make it start19:26
soeeah it is saucy, will test tomorrow @ work19:29
soeeKalidarn: no, starts always for me19:29
Kalidarnokay it's probably my graphics card19:29
Kalidarni think it wants to die19:30
Kalidarnsometimes i get artefacting and that happens in windows too19:30
Kalidarnand sometimes the computer will just go "black" then reboot.19:30
Kalidarnin both linux/windows.19:30
Kalidarnonly error i saw in Xorg.log was19:31
Kalidarn[    42.054] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory19:31
Kalidarnoh wait here we go in Xorg.log.old19:32
Kalidarnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7218481/19:33
Kalidarnnothing in the kernel log19:34
Kalidarnindicating an error.19:34
Kalidarnmystery who knows. i wish it would just die completely so i can go buy a new graphics card.19:35
ahoneybunRiddell: may I ask something package related even if it is gnome?19:38
Riddellahoneybun: oh, ok19:39
ahoneybunRiddell: http://pastebin.com/DsspNzy619:39
Riddellthe answer is probably "use a decent build system" :)19:39
ahoneybundbuild?19:39
ahoneybundebuild19:39
Riddell"dpkg-source: info: fuzz is not allowed when applying patches"19:39
Riddellahoneybun: try quilt refresh  so make the patch apply cleanly19:39
ahoneybunsaid that with another patch that I replaced with the updated debian version but this patch came from ubuntu 19:40
ahoneybunnot debian19:40
Riddellquilt push, quilt pop, quilt refresh  should help19:40
Riddellto refresh each patch19:41
ahoneybunjust 'quilt refresh'?19:41
ahoneybunRiddell: all that did was 'Refreshed patch 50_add_unity_quicklist.patch19:42
ahoneybun'19:42
yofeland that's all it's supposed to do19:54
yofelit updates the line numbers and patch context19:54
yofelwhere line numbers fixes offset and context fixes fuzz19:55
debfxRiddell: (or any other core dev), could you have a look at bug #129370419:59
ubottubug 1293704 in gpgme1.0 (Ubuntu) "Kleopatra don't support s/mime" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129370419:59
debfxI have attached a debdiff fixing encryption in kmail19:59
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Riddelldebfx: sweet, how do I test it?20:12
ScottKRiddell: Thanks.20:18
debfxfor one  thing the kleopatra selftest won't error out anymore20:18
debfxactually testing s/mime is probably a bit more complex20:19
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