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LittleMachello anyone here?01:18
LittleMacHello can anyone help me with my lubuntu install?01:20
holsteinLittleMac: just ask01:21
holsteinLittleMac: volunteers read, and respond if they can help01:22
LittleMacI am installing 12.04 onto an old HP. I installed it via CD and it was working well right up until it asked me to archive. I left it blank and pressed okay. now its just a blank screen01:23
holsteinLittleMac: lubuntu 12.04 is not supported01:23
holsteinLittleMac: i suggest lubuntu 14.04 at this point01:24
LittleMacWill that work on pentium m?01:24
comics_ideesis lubuntu 14.04 new version?01:24
comics_ideesi have 13.x01:24
holsteinLittleMac: nothing about lubuntu is prevening that01:25
holsteinLittleMac: you can try it live01:25
holstein!14.0401:25
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+101:25
holsteincomics_idees: 14.04 is not released yet, but at this point, rather than run 13.10 for the last 3 months of its support cycle, i suggest installing 14.04, even though its not final for a few weeks01:25
holsteinthen, 14.04 lubuntu *will* be an LTS>. a long term support01:26
holsteincomics_idees: you have 13.10? or 13.04?01:26
holstein13.04 is EOL01:26
comics_ideescan I  update from 13.10 to 14.04 ?01:26
holsteincomics_idees: there should be a path to do that.. i never do01:26
holsteincomics_idees: i always do a fresh install.. you are welcome to try the upgrade01:27
comics_ideesdoes the update manager finds the new version? or should I do it with command line?01:28
comics_ideesif I type sudo-apt get update will it install  new version01:29
comics_idees?01:29
holsteincomics_idees: the new version is not released yet01:30
holsteincomics_idees: its released, as i said, and the linnk i gave says, in a few weeks01:30
holsteincomics_idees: when 14.04 is officially released, you will be offered to upgrade to it, assuming your system is configured that way01:30
comics_ideesso I have to wait a few weeks?01:30
holsteincomics_idees: no01:31
holsteincomics_idees: you can choose to do it now if you like, but, i suggest you wait01:31
holsteincomics_idees: since its not final, and you already have 13.10 installed01:31
holsteincomics_idees: LittleMac doesnt have any supported version of lubuntu installed right now01:31
LittleMacCorrect01:31
holsteincomics_idees: so, for LittleMac , i suggest, *not* 12.04, since its not supported anymore01:31
holsteinand not 13.10, since 14.04 is release if a few weeks.. just go ahead and install 14.0401:32
LittleMacThanks. I'm downloading the .iso right now01:32
comics_ideesI had 12.04 in the past it was good but now it is obsolete01:32
comics_ideesI think01:32
comics_ideesmy laptop is 10 years old will it be ok with new version of lubuntu?01:42
comics_ideesI have p4 ht 3.2 Ghz 2GB Ram01:44
comics_ideesis it ok with new version?01:44
comics_ideesan old hp laptop01:45
urbinaHey all! I just wanted to say I installed lubuntu after upgrading from Windows XP and although I thought I would not need to install my intel 865G, I need it, actually I needed to downgrade some packages. It's not a already reported bug?03:15
urbina05Hey all03:49
holsteinurbina05: jhey03:54
holsteinurbina05: you need to install a piece of hardware? an intel graphics chip?03:54
urbina05I did it. After trying a little03:59
urbina05Just wanted to report it.03:59
holsteinurbina05: report what?03:59
urbina05On blogs they say all intel graphics drivers are already in the Linux Kernel so I don't need to install anything04:00
holsteinurbina05: correct.. typically that is the case04:00
urbina05But I had to *install* Mesa-utils.04:00
urbina05actually I followed some steps from someone else.04:01
holsteinurbina05: you could have specific hardware that intel isnt supporting as well as other hardware04:01
holsteinurbina05: you could have something that has been dropped from the kernel04:01
urbina05Yeah, I see. Funny that I have to downgrade some packages. Gonna try to post it on the "Hardware compatibility list" on the forum.04:03
urbina05had*04:04
holsteinurbina05: could be just a temporary regression04:07
holstein!bug04:07
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.04:07
holstein^ thats where i would start04:07
k03lllubuntu <304:08
holsteinlooking for, and applying to a bug report either in ubuntu, or upstream. i would test a mainstream kernel or 2. try some live CD's04:08
holsteinurbina05: is this 13.10? or 14.04?04:08
k03ll14.04 already out?04:08
urbina05It's 13.10. By the way where is that 14.04?04:09
holsteink03ll: no04:09
holstein!14.0404:09
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+104:09
wxlurbina05: 17th04:09
k03llthanks04:09
k03llim ready for the first LTS yeah!04:09
holsteinurbina05: just keep in mind, 13.10 is only supported for a few more months.. you may want to move on to test in 14.04 and report what you find there for any HCL's04:09
urbina05I will surely update, and keep in mind the same process I had  just in case04:14
holsteinurbina05: no ned04:23
holsteinneed*04:23
holsteinurbina05: you can just download the iso, and try 14.04 live, right now..04:24
holsteinthen, that will tell you if its broken in the LTS version or not, and maybe you just relax til then04:24
holsteinanyways.. good luck!04:24
urbina05the RC?04:24
holsteinurbina05: RC = release candidate?04:24
urbina05yes04:24
holsteinurbina05: its a daily iso04:25
holsteinurbina05: you can download one that is from today..04:25
urbina05Hmm I see. I'll do the test then. Thanks04:25
holsteinurbina05: there is also the last beta milestone04:25
urbina05Where?04:25
holsteinwhen i search "lubuntu 14.04 download", the first to search returns are, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/pending/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/beta-2/04:27
urbina05Thanks04:29
FulciLivesHello07:09
FulciLivesI changed the icon for my MENU button in Lubuntu and now I want to change it back only I forgot the location of the original graphic07:10
FulciLivesI think it's under /etc/~something07:10
JohnDoe_71RusFulciLives: /usr/share/themes/...07:23
FulciLivessigh07:27
FulciLivesI still can't find it07:27
FulciLivesI found it07:29
FulciLivesIt's ---> /usr/share/lubuntu/unages/lubuntu-logo.png07:29
JohnDoe_71Rusor you need config file where you change it?07:29
FulciLivesIt's ---> /usr/share/lubuntu/images/lubuntu-logo.png07:30
FulciLivesI'm good now :)07:30
FulciLivesTeach me for trying to mess with the theme settings07:30
FulciLivesShould leave good enough alone heh07:30
JohnDoe_71RusFulciLives: try ledt mouse button click on menu button and check options07:30
JohnDoe_71Rus*left07:31
FulciLivesyeah that's  how I changed it07:31
FulciLivesOnly I picked an *.png in a different location07:31
FulciLivesAnd forgot the original location07:31
FulciLivesI got it now07:31
FulciLivesIt's all good07:31
FulciLivesThanks for the help! :)07:33
FulciLivesOh since I'm here07:33
FulciLivesI might as well ask another question I've been wondering about07:33
FulciLivesI put Lubuntu on this really old laptop I got for free and said laptop only has 512MB RAM but 64MB - 128MB gets shared to the graphics card so that leaves me with less than 512MB07:34
FulciLivesHowever I found out that I can upgrade this laptop to 1GB RAM for about $25 US Dollars, which is cheap (and 1GB is the limit).07:34
FulciLivesIf I do that will I see a substantial gain in performance? I know it should be better but not sure if it will be better enough to warrant trying to do it (and spending the money)07:35
mklTrying to make an shortcut (launcher) in my applications menue but it just does not seem to be working. I have created a *.desktop file in the /usr/share/applications directory with the following code: [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Exec= java -jar home/lubuntu/Astronomy_Software/TopCat/topcat-full.jar Type=Application Terminal=false Name=topcat Icon=/home/lubuntu/Astronomy_Software/TopCat/topcaticon.png Categories=Education07:38
mklI am on a live USB. Does this make a difference?07:39
JohnDoe_71RusFulciLives: Can you take memory for test? Money back07:49
JohnDoe_71RusI'm not sure that will be radically better performance. You may be enough07:50
FulciLivesI don't know. I found someone selling it on Amazon for cheap. I'm pretty sure it is the correct memory.07:51
FulciLivesI know it will be faster ... I just hate to blow the money only to find out that it is only slightly faster yet still "too slow"07:51
FulciLivesBut honestly this laptop is SO slow right now07:51
FulciLivesAny boost would be welcomed07:52
FulciLivesI can't believe computers were this slow 10 years ago lol07:52
FulciLivesIt's a 2004 Sony Vaio laptop07:52
FulciLivesPentium 407:52
JohnDoe_71RusI used ubuntu for 512 mb of memory. Then replaced by 1GB. All arranged, except for flash applications in a browser. Some flash games (farm type) consume a lot of memory07:53
FulciLivesI'm happy just using this laptop for browsing07:54
FulciLivesIt's not my only computer07:54
JohnDoe_71Rusmkl: better use ~/.local/applications for shortcut07:54
FulciLivesI'm tempted though to get one of those haswell Chromebooks and install Lubuntu on it07:55
JohnDoe_71Rus1 Gb is a comfortable minimum for program with GUI07:55
FulciLivesYeah I'll probably try upgrading the RAM ... it is only going to be $25 or so07:56
FulciLivesI think it really needs that extra bit of RAM07:56
FulciLivesOK sorry to blather on07:56
FulciLivesTake care!07:56
JohnDoe_71Rus2 years ago I bought a 1Gb rambus memory. Approximately 20usd. did not regret07:57
* FulciLives nods07:57
nonyaOk i installed my c4clubuntu respin on my hard drive and added my customizations like desktop background, panel background, menu icon ,and the such how can i put it on a usbdrive to boot from any computer i want it to10:28
calimero82hello guys12:00
calimero82good morning to all, I installed Lubuntu 13:10 in acer laptop extensa 5620, which only gives me an error before loading the desktop; the laptop is connected to a vga cable to an external monitor and I also connected a USB keyboard and a mouse.Inoltre every time you restart the PC does not save the settings of the monitor made ​​by me and every time I have to reset it to 1024x768. thanks12:02
trijntje_Hi all, does lubuntu 13.10 fit on a standard CD? ubuntu shows the iso is 730MB, isn't the limit on a CD 700Mb?12:27
calimero8282good morning to all, I installed Lubuntu 13:10 in acer laptop extensa 5620, which only gives me an error before loading the desktop; the laptop is connected to a vga cable to an external monitor and I also connected a USB keyboard and a mouse.Inoltre every time you restart the PC does not save the settings of the monitor made ​​by me and every time I have to reset it to 1024x768. thanks13:54
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zookoHi! I think Lubuntu is cool. I moved from, uh, some GNOME-flavored desktop or other to LXDE on my Linux Mint on my Google Chromebook Pixel and it was much better, so I'm excited about LXDE and about the upcoming LXDE-Qt.17:52
phillwzooko: lubuntu-Qt is planned for 14.10, so get subscribed to the mailing list to be kept upto date!18:41
SonikkuAmericaphillw: Ooh, didn't know it would be ready *that* soon...18:44
phillwSonikkuAmerica: it will be stable beta for 14.10, hence the concentration of effort on the 14.04 lts19:36
SonikkuAmericaphillw: Which is the last iteration of LXDE-gtk2 that we'll have, right?19:36
phillwSonikkuAmerica: afaik, yes19:37
SonikkuAmericaphillw: I need to pull out my Lubuntu machine more often anyway... my production env uses Xubuntu :)19:37
phillwSonikkuAmerica: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/14.0419:37
SonikkuAmericaphillw: OK. Do we know for sure if a preview will actually work in 14.04 LTS or will it just sit there, selectable in lightdm but doing nothing, waiting for an unsuspecting Joe User to happen upon it and think "OMG I BROEK MAI COMPUTAH!!1!1!one"?19:40
SonikkuAmerica(Of LXDE-Qt, that is)19:40
phillwSonikkuAmerica: I've not done anything with the Qt area, been busy with the non-pae kernel for 14.04 :)19:41
SonikkuAmericaphillw: Fair enough, you have worked really hard towards that, and I'm sure the non-PAE users will all appreciate it :)19:42
phillwwhich I've agreed to maintain for at least 3 years19:42
* SonikkuAmerica has a UEFI machine (which obviously has PAE)19:42
phillwSonikkuAmerica: that's fine, I said I'd have a go at a non-pae community release as 10.04 is too old.... Never thought just how much work it was :P (You cannot beat a n00b to say 'it can't be that difficult') :)19:47
SonikkuAmericaphillw: Your training by bodhi_zazen seems to have made you a beginner kernel Jedi.19:52
phillwSonikkuAmerica: minus the jedi bit :P19:57
SonikkuAmericaphillw: (I hate Google Chrome notifications, it displayed that emoticon in full HTML)19:58
SonikkuAmericaphillw: So what kind of impact would the non-PAE kernel have? Just tack the PPA on and install any DE/apps or whatever (although that may sound dumb)?19:59
phillwsome computers cannot run 32 bit pae kernel (which is all there is). for those CPU's that can just run ~4 GB of RAM they can use the non-pae kernel - the kernel will be available to any team that wants it and also be spun into an ISO for lubunt.20:01
SonikkuAmericaSo all they need is the kernel modification you outlined in that one wiki page and voilà, they're in.20:02
phillwSonikkuAmerica: yup, and it will be available as a repo so any team using it will get updates to the kernel as they are released20:03
SonikkuAmericaBut only as a PPA... :(20:04
phillwSonikkuAmerica: nope, as full blown repo.... http://www.brandorr.com/creating-a-secure-debian-or-ubuntu-apt-repo20:05
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phillwall signed up :)20:05
SonikkuAmericaphillw: yay!20:05
phillwSonikkuAmerica: hence my saying it is a lot more involved than I originally thought, as others asked if I could extend things to be a non-ppa kernel release also.20:06
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simianthello, I am having ome difficulty getting xscreensaver to start automatically... could anyone help me out?22:27
Guest11111111111hello?23:50
Guest11111111111Is this the place to ask questions about Lubuntu?23:52

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