[01:18] <LittleMac> hello anyone here?
[01:20] <LittleMac> Hello can anyone help me with my lubuntu install?
[01:21] <holstein> LittleMac: just ask
[01:22] <holstein> LittleMac: volunteers read, and respond if they can help
[01:23] <LittleMac> I am installing 12.04 onto an old HP. I installed it via CD and it was working well right up until it asked me to archive. I left it blank and pressed okay. now its just a blank screen
[01:23] <holstein> LittleMac: lubuntu 12.04 is not supported
[01:24] <holstein> LittleMac: i suggest lubuntu 14.04 at this point
[01:24] <LittleMac> Will that work on pentium m?
[01:24] <comics_idees> is lubuntu 14.04 new version?
[01:24] <comics_idees> i have 13.x
[01:25] <holstein> LittleMac: nothing about lubuntu is prevening that
[01:25] <holstein> LittleMac: you can try it live
[01:25] <holstein> !14.04
[01:25] <holstein> comics_idees: 14.04 is not released yet, but at this point, rather than run 13.10 for the last 3 months of its support cycle, i suggest installing 14.04, even though its not final for a few weeks
[01:26] <holstein> then, 14.04 lubuntu *will* be an LTS>. a long term support
[01:26] <holstein> comics_idees: you have 13.10? or 13.04?
[01:26] <holstein> 13.04 is EOL
[01:26] <comics_idees> can I  update from 13.10 to 14.04 ?
[01:26] <holstein> comics_idees: there should be a path to do that.. i never do
[01:27] <holstein> comics_idees: i always do a fresh install.. you are welcome to try the upgrade
[01:28] <comics_idees> does the update manager finds the new version? or should I do it with command line?
[01:29] <comics_idees> if I type sudo-apt get update will it install  new version
[01:29] <comics_idees> ?
[01:30] <holstein> comics_idees: the new version is not released yet
[01:30] <holstein> comics_idees: its released, as i said, and the linnk i gave says, in a few weeks
[01:30] <holstein> comics_idees: when 14.04 is officially released, you will be offered to upgrade to it, assuming your system is configured that way
[01:30] <comics_idees> so I have to wait a few weeks?
[01:31] <holstein> comics_idees: no
[01:31] <holstein> comics_idees: you can choose to do it now if you like, but, i suggest you wait
[01:31] <holstein> comics_idees: since its not final, and you already have 13.10 installed
[01:31] <holstein> comics_idees: LittleMac doesnt have any supported version of lubuntu installed right now
[01:31] <LittleMac> Correct
[01:31] <holstein> comics_idees: so, for LittleMac , i suggest, *not* 12.04, since its not supported anymore
[01:32] <holstein> and not 13.10, since 14.04 is release if a few weeks.. just go ahead and install 14.04
[01:32] <LittleMac> Thanks. I'm downloading the .iso right now
[01:32] <comics_idees> I had 12.04 in the past it was good but now it is obsolete
[01:32] <comics_idees> I think
[01:42] <comics_idees> my laptop is 10 years old will it be ok with new version of lubuntu?
[01:44] <comics_idees> I have p4 ht 3.2 Ghz 2GB Ram
[01:44] <comics_idees> is it ok with new version?
[01:45] <comics_idees> an old hp laptop
[03:15] <urbina> Hey all! I just wanted to say I installed lubuntu after upgrading from Windows XP and although I thought I would not need to install my intel 865G, I need it, actually I needed to downgrade some packages. It's not a already reported bug?
[03:49] <urbina05> Hey all
[03:54] <holstein> urbina05: jhey
[03:54] <holstein> urbina05: you need to install a piece of hardware? an intel graphics chip?
[03:59] <urbina05> I did it. After trying a little
[03:59] <urbina05> Just wanted to report it.
[03:59] <holstein> urbina05: report what?
[04:00] <urbina05> On blogs they say all intel graphics drivers are already in the Linux Kernel so I don't need to install anything
[04:00] <holstein> urbina05: correct.. typically that is the case
[04:00] <urbina05> But I had to *install* Mesa-utils.
[04:01] <urbina05> actually I followed some steps from someone else.
[04:01] <holstein> urbina05: you could have specific hardware that intel isnt supporting as well as other hardware
[04:01] <holstein> urbina05: you could have something that has been dropped from the kernel
[04:03] <urbina05> Yeah, I see. Funny that I have to downgrade some packages. Gonna try to post it on the "Hardware compatibility list" on the forum.
[04:04] <urbina05> had*
[04:07] <holstein> urbina05: could be just a temporary regression
[04:07] <holstein> !bug
[04:07] <holstein> ^ thats where i would start
[04:08] <k03ll> lubuntu <3
[04:08] <holstein> looking for, and applying to a bug report either in ubuntu, or upstream. i would test a mainstream kernel or 2. try some live CD's
[04:08] <holstein> urbina05: is this 13.10? or 14.04?
[04:08] <k03ll> 14.04 already out?
[04:09] <urbina05> It's 13.10. By the way where is that 14.04?
[04:09] <holstein> k03ll: no
[04:09] <holstein> !14.04
[04:09] <wxl> urbina05: 17th
[04:09] <k03ll> thanks
[04:09] <k03ll> im ready for the first LTS yeah!
[04:09] <holstein> urbina05: just keep in mind, 13.10 is only supported for a few more months.. you may want to move on to test in 14.04 and report what you find there for any HCL's
[04:14] <urbina05> I will surely update, and keep in mind the same process I had  just in case
[04:23] <holstein> urbina05: no ned
[04:23] <holstein> need*
[04:24] <holstein> urbina05: you can just download the iso, and try 14.04 live, right now..
[04:24] <holstein> then, that will tell you if its broken in the LTS version or not, and maybe you just relax til then
[04:24] <holstein> anyways.. good luck!
[04:24] <urbina05> the RC?
[04:24] <holstein> urbina05: RC = release candidate?
[04:24] <urbina05> yes
[04:25] <holstein> urbina05: its a daily iso
[04:25] <holstein> urbina05: you can download one that is from today..
[04:25] <urbina05> Hmm I see. I'll do the test then. Thanks
[04:25] <holstein> urbina05: there is also the last beta milestone
[04:25] <urbina05> Where?
[04:27] <holstein> when i search "lubuntu 14.04 download", the first to search returns are, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/pending/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/beta-2/
[04:29] <urbina05> Thanks
[07:09] <FulciLives> Hello
[07:10] <FulciLives> I changed the icon for my MENU button in Lubuntu and now I want to change it back only I forgot the location of the original graphic
[07:10] <FulciLives> I think it's under /etc/~something
[07:23] <JohnDoe_71Rus> FulciLives: /usr/share/themes/...
[07:27] <FulciLives> sigh
[07:27] <FulciLives> I still can't find it
[07:29] <FulciLives> I found it
[07:29] <FulciLives> It's ---> /usr/share/lubuntu/unages/lubuntu-logo.png
[07:29] <JohnDoe_71Rus> or you need config file where you change it?
[07:30] <FulciLives> It's ---> /usr/share/lubuntu/images/lubuntu-logo.png
[07:30] <FulciLives> I'm good now :)
[07:30] <FulciLives> Teach me for trying to mess with the theme settings
[07:30] <FulciLives> Should leave good enough alone heh
[07:30] <JohnDoe_71Rus> FulciLives: try ledt mouse button click on menu button and check options
[07:31] <JohnDoe_71Rus> *left
[07:31] <FulciLives> yeah that's  how I changed it
[07:31] <FulciLives> Only I picked an *.png in a different location
[07:31] <FulciLives> And forgot the original location
[07:31] <FulciLives> I got it now
[07:31] <FulciLives> It's all good
[07:33] <FulciLives> Thanks for the help! :)
[07:33] <FulciLives> Oh since I'm here
[07:33] <FulciLives> I might as well ask another question I've been wondering about
[07:34] <FulciLives> I put Lubuntu on this really old laptop I got for free and said laptop only has 512MB RAM but 64MB - 128MB gets shared to the graphics card so that leaves me with less than 512MB
[07:34] <FulciLives> However I found out that I can upgrade this laptop to 1GB RAM for about $25 US Dollars, which is cheap (and 1GB is the limit).
[07:35] <FulciLives> If I do that will I see a substantial gain in performance? I know it should be better but not sure if it will be better enough to warrant trying to do it (and spending the money)
[07:38] <mkl> Trying to make an shortcut (launcher) in my applications menue but it just does not seem to be working. I have created a *.desktop file in the /usr/share/applications directory with the following code: [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Exec= java -jar home/lubuntu/Astronomy_Software/TopCat/topcat-full.jar Type=Application Terminal=false Name=topcat Icon=/home/lubuntu/Astronomy_Software/TopCat/topcaticon.png Categories=Education
[07:39] <mkl> I am on a live USB. Does this make a difference?
[07:49] <JohnDoe_71Rus> FulciLives: Can you take memory for test? Money back
[07:50] <JohnDoe_71Rus> I'm not sure that will be radically better performance. You may be enough
[07:51] <FulciLives> I don't know. I found someone selling it on Amazon for cheap. I'm pretty sure it is the correct memory.
[07:51] <FulciLives> I know it will be faster ... I just hate to blow the money only to find out that it is only slightly faster yet still "too slow"
[07:51] <FulciLives> But honestly this laptop is SO slow right now
[07:52] <FulciLives> Any boost would be welcomed
[07:52] <FulciLives> I can't believe computers were this slow 10 years ago lol
[07:52] <FulciLives> It's a 2004 Sony Vaio laptop
[07:52] <FulciLives> Pentium 4
[07:53] <JohnDoe_71Rus> I used ubuntu for 512 mb of memory. Then replaced by 1GB. All arranged, except for flash applications in a browser. Some flash games (farm type) consume a lot of memory
[07:54] <FulciLives> I'm happy just using this laptop for browsing
[07:54] <FulciLives> It's not my only computer
[07:54] <JohnDoe_71Rus> mkl: better use ~/.local/applications for shortcut
[07:55] <FulciLives> I'm tempted though to get one of those haswell Chromebooks and install Lubuntu on it
[07:55] <JohnDoe_71Rus> 1 Gb is a comfortable minimum for program with GUI
[07:56] <FulciLives> Yeah I'll probably try upgrading the RAM ... it is only going to be $25 or so
[07:56] <FulciLives> I think it really needs that extra bit of RAM
[07:56] <FulciLives> OK sorry to blather on
[07:56] <FulciLives> Take care!
[07:57] <JohnDoe_71Rus> 2 years ago I bought a 1Gb rambus memory. Approximately 20usd. did not regret
[07:57]  * FulciLives nods
[10:28] <nonya> Ok i installed my c4clubuntu respin on my hard drive and added my customizations like desktop background, panel background, menu icon ,and the such how can i put it on a usbdrive to boot from any computer i want it to
[12:00] <calimero82> hello guys
[12:02] <calimero82> good morning to all, I installed Lubuntu 13:10 in acer laptop extensa 5620, which only gives me an error before loading the desktop; the laptop is connected to a vga cable to an external monitor and I also connected a USB keyboard and a mouse.Inoltre every time you restart the PC does not save the settings of the monitor made ​​by me and every time I have to reset it to 1024x768. thanks
[12:27] <trijntje_> Hi all, does lubuntu 13.10 fit on a standard CD? ubuntu shows the iso is 730MB, isn't the limit on a CD 700Mb?
[13:54] <calimero8282> good morning to all, I installed Lubuntu 13:10 in acer laptop extensa 5620, which only gives me an error before loading the desktop; the laptop is connected to a vga cable to an external monitor and I also connected a USB keyboard and a mouse.Inoltre every time you restart the PC does not save the settings of the monitor made ​​by me and every time I have to reset it to 1024x768. thanks
[17:52] <zooko> Hi! I think Lubuntu is cool. I moved from, uh, some GNOME-flavored desktop or other to LXDE on my Linux Mint on my Google Chromebook Pixel and it was much better, so I'm excited about LXDE and about the upcoming LXDE-Qt.
[18:41] <phillw> zooko: lubuntu-Qt is planned for 14.10, so get subscribed to the mailing list to be kept upto date!
[18:44] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: Ooh, didn't know it would be ready *that* soon...
[19:36] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: it will be stable beta for 14.10, hence the concentration of effort on the 14.04 lts
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: Which is the last iteration of LXDE-gtk2 that we'll have, right?
[19:37] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: afaik, yes
[19:37] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: I need to pull out my Lubuntu machine more often anyway... my production env uses Xubuntu :)
[19:37] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/14.04
[19:40] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: OK. Do we know for sure if a preview will actually work in 14.04 LTS or will it just sit there, selectable in lightdm but doing nothing, waiting for an unsuspecting Joe User to happen upon it and think "OMG I BROEK MAI COMPUTAH!!1!1!one"?
[19:40] <SonikkuAmerica> (Of LXDE-Qt, that is)
[19:41] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: I've not done anything with the Qt area, been busy with the non-pae kernel for 14.04 :)
[19:42] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: Fair enough, you have worked really hard towards that, and I'm sure the non-PAE users will all appreciate it :)
[19:42] <phillw> which I've agreed to maintain for at least 3 years
[19:42]  * SonikkuAmerica has a UEFI machine (which obviously has PAE)
[19:47] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: that's fine, I said I'd have a go at a non-pae community release as 10.04 is too old.... Never thought just how much work it was :P (You cannot beat a n00b to say 'it can't be that difficult') :)
[19:52] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: Your training by bodhi_zazen seems to have made you a beginner kernel Jedi.
[19:57] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: minus the jedi bit :P
[19:58] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: (I hate Google Chrome notifications, it displayed that emoticon in full HTML)
[19:59] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: So what kind of impact would the non-PAE kernel have? Just tack the PPA on and install any DE/apps or whatever (although that may sound dumb)?
[20:01] <phillw> some computers cannot run 32 bit pae kernel (which is all there is). for those CPU's that can just run ~4 GB of RAM they can use the non-pae kernel - the kernel will be available to any team that wants it and also be spun into an ISO for lubunt.
[20:02] <SonikkuAmerica> So all they need is the kernel modification you outlined in that one wiki page and voilà, they're in.
[20:03] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: yup, and it will be available as a repo so any team using it will get updates to the kernel as they are released
[20:04] <SonikkuAmerica> But only as a PPA... :(
[20:05] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: nope, as full blown repo.... http://www.brandorr.com/creating-a-secure-debian-or-ubuntu-apt-repo
[20:05] <phillw> all signed up :)
[20:05] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: yay!
[20:06] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: hence my saying it is a lot more involved than I originally thought, as others asked if I could extend things to be a non-ppa kernel release also.
[22:27] <simiant> hello, I am having ome difficulty getting xscreensaver to start automatically... could anyone help me out?
[23:50] <Guest11111111111> hello?
[23:52] <Guest11111111111> Is this the place to ask questions about Lubuntu?