| === jackyalcine is now known as jacky | ||
| valorie | boo, this is not us, is it? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333185 | 05:27 |
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| ubottu | KDE bug 333185 in general "After turning on the Dropbox plugin, and restarting Dolphin - immediate crash" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 05:27 |
| valorie | Jacky confirmed it | 05:27 |
| Mirv | yofel: Riddell: if you have qdbus installed (the qt4 version), and you call qdbus -qt4, it should always work | 05:59 |
| Mirv | that's same as QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus, ie both override default.conf coming from qt5-default | 05:59 |
| soee | good morning | 06:17 |
| === fabo_ is now known as fabo | ||
| === ahoneybun_ is now known as ahoneybun | ||
| apachelogger | allee: I do not see any crash submissions regarding dolphin | 07:33 |
| valorie | I just posted mine, apachelogger | 07:34 |
| valorie | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333185 | 07:35 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 333185 in general "After turning on the Dropbox plugin, and restarting Dolphin - immediate crash" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] | 07:35 |
| apachelogger | ah yeah | 07:35 |
| apachelogger | valorie: not ours | 07:35 |
| * apachelogger forgot to reply ^^ | 07:35 | |
| valorie | that's good | 07:36 |
| apachelogger | or well, the master bug is not | 07:36 |
| apachelogger | #12 0x00007f4931bea7e9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/kde4/fileviewdropboxplugin.so | 07:36 |
| apachelogger | definitely crashes in a 3rd party thing | 07:36 |
| valorie | quick response on a bug report; me likey | 07:38 |
| yofel | Mirv: that's not much of a solution unless we do that for every call of 'qdbus' that are scattered over the system | 07:43 |
| Mirv | right, I've no understanding of the amount of qdbus calls around | 07:45 |
| Mirv | the ugly hack would be to depend on both qdbus-qt5 and qdbus packages... as suggested that the qt5 version is compatible | 07:46 |
| yofel | Mirv: would it be acceptable for qt5-default to recommend qdbus-qt5? | 07:47 |
| yofel | until we have a better solution | 07:47 |
| Mirv | yofel: I think mostly only if you convince pkg-kde to do so too.. they'll have the same problem, it's just that in Debian not too many people yet install qt5-default | 07:47 |
| yofel | hm :/ | 07:48 |
| yofel | depending on qdbus-qt5 would mean seeding qt5 on our images, which I would prefer not to - at least for trusty | 07:48 |
| yofel | Mirv: ok, lets see what they say for now, I'm over there too anyway | 07:51 |
| yofel | thanks | 07:52 |
| Mirv | yes I noticed :) | 07:52 |
| === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia | ||
| apachelogger | hm | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | !info akonadi trusty | 08:28 |
| ubottu | Package akonadi does not exist in trusty | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | !info akonadi-server trusty | 08:28 |
| ubottu | akonadi-server (source: akonadi): Akonadi PIM storage service. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.12.0-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 560 kB, installed size 2216 kB | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | (we can't possibly name the binary package akonadi, that would almost make sense) | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | also bzr is out of sync | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 08:29 |
| jussi | calligra flow is not a totally bad app, but it needs some decent basic flow chart defaults - its such a mass of random symbols, its very hard to get anything done. | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | jussi: I think you are supposed to tell the calligra developers | 08:30 |
| Riddell | it's pretty badly maintained is calligra flow, was made by The Kompany back in the day and abandoned when nobody bought templates | 08:30 |
| jussi | apachelogger: yes, that too. However, people here actually listen to me :P | 08:30 |
| jussi | so, anyone got alternate apps? | 08:31 |
| Riddell | dia | 08:31 |
| apachelogger | support happens elsewhere :O | 08:31 |
| jussi | Riddell: sadly dia is poor also. guess Ill go and use $onlinething | 08:32 |
| jussi | right, so this random java thing called "yed" looks the goods. lets see. | 08:40 |
| apachelogger | Uploading akonadi_1.12.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done. | 08:44 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 08:44 |
| apachelogger | new upstream release, fixing bugsery | 08:44 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: ^ | 08:44 |
| sibe | Hello | 08:53 |
| sibe | bug of libreoffice-kde ! | 08:53 |
| sibe | on 14.04 | 08:53 |
| apachelogger | exciting | 08:58 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: are you able to look at bcooksley's complaint? [kde-packager] Shipping by distributions of non-KDE distributed components | 09:20 |
| apachelogger | I did, stuck in moderation | 09:22 |
| * apachelogger squints | 09:48 | |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: I think the upgrader is drunk | 09:49 |
| apachelogger | also python ftw | 09:49 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Why am I suddenly drunk? | 09:49 |
| apachelogger | because you have been drinking | 09:49 |
| apachelogger | clearly | 09:49 |
| apachelogger | why else would you try to encode unicode as ascii :P | 09:50 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: report bug I guess | 09:50 |
| Quintasan | well | 09:51 |
| Quintasan | ask do-release-upgrade | 09:51 |
| Quintasan | what it is trying to do. | 09:51 |
| apachelogger | https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?65105-Unable-to-start-Dr-Konqi :O | 09:51 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: it's trying to encode utf8 as ascii | 09:51 |
| apachelogger | as the error states | 09:51 |
| Quintasan | That I can understand, the question is why it tries to do that | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | the reason it does that is because python is such a fancy language it manages to fall over text encoding in 2014 | 09:52 |
| Quintasan | >Python | 09:53 |
| Quintasan | I just don't want to touch it. | 09:53 |
| apachelogger | I did not tell you to touch it, did I | 09:53 |
| * apachelogger hits the regression alert button | 10:04 | |
| apachelogger | Uploading kubuntu-driver-manager_14.04ubuntu7_source.changes: done. | 10:07 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 10:07 |
| apachelogger | fixes notification spam issue | 10:07 |
| Riddell | yay! | 10:07 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what's the regression alert? | 10:07 |
| apachelogger | the thing I fixed | 10:08 |
| Riddell | phew | 10:08 |
| apachelogger | persistency got lost in the refactoring I did a while ago | 10:08 |
| allee | apachelogger: the dolphin crash was fixed interactively here in IRC. Yesterdays commit in baloo KDE/4.13 is the result and fixes the crash here as I could confirm | 11:05 |
| allee | apachelogger: no dolphin rebuild was necessary | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | allee: oh, a commit we don't have in the packaging yet? | 11:06 |
| allee | apachelogger: upps, right. I thought you plan to do another git snapshot anyway, so I was to lazy to ping you. Sorry | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | 707f61f3c4134b64bdd923cf4dc5199219b79c01? | 11:08 |
| allee | *too | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | kde bug 332403 | 11:08 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 332403 in General "Dolphin crash when changing the rating of a file in baloo search results" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332403 | 11:08 |
| allee | apachelogger: yes, 707f61f3c4134b64bdd923cf4dc5199219b79c01 | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | importing | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | allee: I wasn't going to import baloo today FWIW ^^ | 11:11 |
| allee | apachelogger: side question: is here a tool to create a orig.tar + patch from a git repo? I did everything yesterday the step by stop way :-( | 11:12 |
| allee | apachelogger: me culpa | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | allee: nope | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | you could easily script something though... pull-lp-source will get you the latest source package, git clone && git diff v4.13.97 will give you the diff to rc1 | 11:14 |
| allee | apachelogger: k | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | allee: you could also simply tar the git repo though ;) | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | shouldn't really make a difference for local usage | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | Mirv, yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/827815/comments/14 couldn't qtchooser simply try the other version when the exctuable cannot be found? | 11:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1176686 in qtchooser (Ubuntu Raring) "duplicate for #827815 qtchooser does not properly work with multiarch" [Critical,Triaged] | 11:20 |
| allee | apachelogger: that's what I did (without .git/) but it's a tendious job to get with versions and _ versus - ;-) | 11:20 |
| yofel | sune made a good point that that's a rather bad idea for stuff like qmake, moc, ... | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | I mean, chances are the user will have some qdbus installed, qtchooser just doesn't seem to do a very good job at finidng the right one | 11:20 |
| yofel | he wanted to think about what to do, hasn't responded yet | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | yofel: qdbus exclusive then :P | 11:21 |
| yofel | apachelogger: https://codereview.qt-project.org/82702 | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | this thing is as much a mess as the alternative solution before, except now it's upstream :P | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | IMHO qt should just version their tool names and be done with it, if I only support qdbus4 then I'll call qdbus4 etc. ;) | 11:22 |
| yofel | well, that's what qdbus -qt4 does, and wouldn't help us in the current situation at all | 11:23 |
| yofel | at least not to implement that now | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | allee: by strip/grep/sedding dpkg-parsechangelog you should be able to get the version | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | alternatively a sed on debian/changelog I guess | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | yofel: sure, startkde would then call qdbus4 :P | 11:24 |
| yofel | yeah, if that's how it already was, it would've been great | 11:25 |
| yofel | and calling the new one qdbus5 would've already helped | 11:25 |
| yofel | but nobody seemed interested | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | Uploading baloo_4.12.97-0ubuntu3_source.changes: done. | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | fixes crasheroo when rating stuff in dolphin | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | Uploading kde-runtime_4.12.97-0ubuntu3_source.changes: done. | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | git commit import + disabling gpg kwallet again | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | yofel: why doesn't the default package depend the tools btw? | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | or well, recommend at least | 11:29 |
| yofel | I don't know. The currently best solution I guess would be to have qt5-default recommend qdbus-qt5. Again waiting on sune to respond | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | seems to me if I install qt5-default manually I'll have broken my setup | 11:29 |
| yofel | in kubuntu, sure | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | and OTOH if both default packages actually depended on the actual tool packages we coudl also ensure a working startkde | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | i.e. we'd seed qt4-default on the ISO (making sure qdbus4 is there) | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | if the user then installs qt5-default because of qtcreator or something they will continue to have a qdbus because it in turn pulls in qdbus5 | 11:31 |
| Mirv | apachelogger: I think your idea of a qdbus specific qtchooser patch is not a bad one, since qtchooser is cheap to rebuild | 11:51 |
| kitterma | apachelogger: Thanks. Accepted along with your other stuff. | 11:52 |
| === kitterma is now known as ScottK | ||
| apachelogger | ScottK: thx | 11:54 |
| sgclark | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7221266/ | 11:58 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:04 |
| sgclark | hello | 12:04 |
| lordievader | o/ | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | valorie: docs languages apparently didn't increase :( | 12:08 |
| jarkko | huge amount of upgrades | 12:34 |
| jarkko | were they released today? | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | Uploading kubuntu-docs_14.04ubuntu6_source.changes: done. | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | final export | 12:47 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: oh cool, do you have ideas on how best to update docs.kubuntu.org? | 12:48 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: can you export be automated or is there some manual steps to it? | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | not a clue | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: automated | 12:48 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so we should be able to automate docs.kubuntu.org | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: kde:scratch/sitter/kubuntu-docs | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | checkout export.sh | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | it's how the docbook gets generated | 12:49 |
| Riddell | then I expect some meinproc needed to make the html | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | you could probably write a script based on pull-lp-source and generate the html from the docbook though | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah | 12:49 |
| Riddell | hmm that's an idea | 12:49 |
| Riddell | would mean docs.kubuntu.org doesn't get turned into spam if someone spams the wiki | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | plus since we only have release versions there anyway, it makes sense to generate from the actual package | 12:50 |
| Striezl | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Support | 13:12 |
| Striezl | how can i help you | 13:12 |
| Striezl | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved | 13:12 |
| Riddell | oh, he didn't hang around long :( | 13:22 |
| sgclark | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7221266/ | 13:39 |
| lordievader | I suppose it is know, but docs.kubutu.co.uk is broken [1], also docs.kubuntu.com exists but shows an apache test page. [1] http://docs.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Installation.html | 13:42 |
| Riddell | sgclark: a problem for someone experienced in perl plugin libaries to worry about, nobody here really has the skills to know why they're missing, fine to ignore for now | 13:43 |
| Riddell | lordievader: http://docs.kubuntu.org is the right place to use, are there any links to the other domains? | 13:43 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok ty | 13:44 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Hope not, I honestly thought it was docs.kubu.co.uk, that's why I went there. | 13:44 |
| lordievader | But the .org has the same problem: http://docs.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html | 13:45 |
| sgclark | Riddell: is this what you had in mind for that automation script? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7221641/ | 13:45 |
| Riddell | lordievader: what's the problem? | 13:45 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yes, does that do it? don't you need to edit the .install file? | 13:46 |
| Riddell | oh you added it in, I see | 13:46 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Installation page is blank and quite a few links give 404's. | 13:46 |
| sgclark | Riddell: no, once I added that to control all built | 13:46 |
| Riddell | lordievader: hmm right, it needs replaced with new documentation anyway, volunteers welcome, just some scripting needed | 13:47 |
| lordievader | Riddell: I know, just thought I'd mention it. | 13:47 |
| Riddell | sgclark: okay great, can you commit to kubuntu-automation? | 13:47 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I don't know, I can try | 13:48 |
| sgclark | Riddell: in the main folder? | 13:52 |
| yofel | sgclark: same place as the other hooks are | 13:53 |
| sgclark | yofel: ok ty | 13:54 |
| yofel | it needs to have the right name and place for kubuntu-batch-backport to find it | 13:54 |
| sgclark | I named it perlkde-saucy | 13:56 |
| sgclark | which is consistant with the other files in there | 13:56 |
| yofel | yeah, sounds correct | 13:57 |
| sgclark | commited :) | 13:57 |
| yofel | hm, wrong folder I think. 4.13 isn't stable yet | 13:58 |
| yofel | then again | 13:59 |
| * yofel reads logs | 13:59 | |
| Riddell | yeah should be in unstable | 13:59 |
| Riddell | should probably also have chmod 755 | 14:00 |
| Riddell | sgclark: bzr mv ? | 14:00 |
| yofel | ah right, needs +x as well | 14:00 |
| sgclark | oops ok | 14:02 |
| yofel | yeah, wrong folder. Rohan changed the package list for saucy, but the hooks are still in unstable | 14:02 |
| sgclark | ok bzr mv and chmod complete | 14:04 |
| yofel | correct now | 14:05 |
| yofel | stable/unstable here matches the folder on depot.kde.org that the release is in | 14:06 |
| yofel | not that kf5 or plasma next were considered when we did that ^^ | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | yofel: does neon somehow force the dbus session into the neon envrionment? | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | i.e. systemwise dbus would be started such that it only looks for services in /usr/share, however since neon installs to opt the session bus needs to be started from inside the envrionment | 14:13 |
| yofel | I don't think we do that. The init script should have the old dbus-daemon init code from the old kdedev examples, but commented out | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | mh, ok | 14:13 |
| yofel | I vaguely remember rohan debugging some dbus issues long ago | 14:13 |
| yofel | but I don't think we came very far | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | we're looking for a solution for neon5 right now | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | apparently something autoinjects /usr/share/project-neon5 as a possible data path | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | so we could symlink there | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | or we forcefully start a second session bus from inside startneon5 | 14:14 |
| Riddell | morning shadeslayer, where are you this week? | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: he's away for the week | 14:18 |
| * yofel seriously wonders if neon4 should just get wrapped up | 14:20 | |
| yofel | Trusty is completely busted and I personally don't have the time to fix it in the near future. | 14:20 |
| yofel | apachelogger: also, what's your plan for mixed environments like we'll have with plasma next but kdelibs based kstars or so | 14:20 |
| yofel | leave them seperate? | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | yofel: well, the kde4 stuff would be wrapped by the containment, except for kdehome | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | come to think of it not setting the legacy vars possibly is a bad thing | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | otherwise the entire session would be contained into .project-neon5-kde | 14:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I know, I'm being nosey and asking where | 14:24 |
| jose | Riddell: ping, IS is asking if the new CMS (wp) is going to be hosted by them? | 14:41 |
| Riddell | jose: no we plan to host it ourselves | 14:41 |
| jose | thank you | 14:41 |
| Riddell | debfx: fix for bug 1293704 uploaded, thanks! | 14:48 |
| ubottu | bug 1293704 in gpgme1.0 (Ubuntu) "Kleopatra don't support s/mime" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1293704 | 14:48 |
| Riddell | ScottK: you're a kmail user, any sign of bug 1290307 ? | 14:48 |
| Riddell | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/1290307 "Local Folders: Error: Unsupported Type." | 14:48 |
| ubottu | bug 1290307 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "kubuntu 14.04: kmail: unsupported type" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290307 | 14:48 |
| Riddell | jose: thanks for poking him :) | 14:51 |
| jose | Riddell: np, it's always good to have a dose of IS rejection from time to time :P | 14:51 |
| Riddell | gosh, final freeze in 2 days! | 14:52 |
| jose | there's 5 open/new tickets on my bookmarks atm | 14:52 |
| jose | yeah! | 14:52 |
| jose | time's passed quickly | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the kleopatra thing is in gpgme a change by pitti from october or so | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | where he did some gpg1 stuff I did not understand which had as fallout that the pits kleopatra wants are not built anymore | 14:54 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I know, debfx found a fix which I just tested and uploaded | 14:55 |
| apachelogger | ok | 14:55 |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| Riddell | ScottK: kde-workspace has a change from doko.. | 15:30 |
| Riddell | "+ * plasma-scriptengines: Remove the dependency on plasma-scriptengine-ruby. | 15:30 |
| Riddell | + Still depends on ruby1.8 which won't be available in trusty. | 15:30 |
| Riddell | ScottK: is that still true? | 15:30 |
| Riddell | " | 15:30 |
| jose | Riddell: DB dump is on ovidiu-florin's inbox (as well as mine), do you need a copy? | 15:30 |
| Riddell | well it's true but you fixed it to not use ruby1.8 right? | 15:30 |
| jose | Riddell: do we need files as well? | 15:30 |
| Riddell | jose: cool, no I trust ovidiu :) | 15:30 |
| Riddell | jose: meaning attached files on pages? yes probably | 15:30 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer, yofel: I've gone with the local QT_SELECT=qt4 qdbus in startkde for now | 15:31 |
| yofel | k, that's the worst occurance at least | 15:32 |
| jose | ok, I have all the files that are on the current instance atm | 16:02 |
| Riddell | jose: current instance? | 16:08 |
| jose | drupal | 16:08 |
| jose | the current site | 16:09 |
| Riddell | jose: yes but how could we download them? | 16:14 |
| jose | Riddell: oh, I have the file, it's a bit heavy - 145MB, I can send it to anyone who needs it | 16:14 |
| Riddell | jose: ok cool | 16:15 |
| jose | want me to email it to you? | 16:15 |
| Riddell | jose: copy it do the new server I guess, you don't have an account do you? | 16:15 |
| jose | nope, I don't | 16:15 |
| Riddell | no! 145MB e-mails are scary! | 16:15 |
| jose | lol | 16:15 |
| Riddell | jose: what preferred username and ssh key for server? | 16:17 |
| jose | Riddell: joseeantonior for username, and SSH key should be the one at https://launchpad.net/~jose/+sshkeys | 16:17 |
| Riddell | jose: joseeantonior@docs.kubuntu.org | 16:19 |
| jose | I'm in | 16:20 |
| jose | scp'ing the file over there | 16:21 |
| jose | wow, it says it's going to take a couple hours - let's just hope my connection doesn't go down | 16:23 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kde-workspace-kf5 so far https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kubuntu/kubuntu_packaging/Pictures/ | 17:59 |
| sgclark | Riddell: trying to get knewstuff working now | 18:00 |
| sgclark | Riddell: perlkde saucy https://launchpad.net/~scarlett-7/+archive/kubuntu-ppa/+packages | 18:27 |
| jose | Riddell: the file has been scp'd onto the server | 20:39 |
| Sput | apachelogger: is 1299872 resolved now with the gstreamer thingy? | 21:50 |
| ScottK | Riddell: get that all the time in saucy. | 22:12 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think the Ruby thing is fixed. | 22:12 |
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