[02:41] <Salam_M_Ahmed> Hello Guys
[02:55] <Salam_M_Ahmed> Hello guys
[04:59] <jacky> Anyone using that new Dropbox plugin for Dolphin?
[05:00] <jacky> it's right up with the Git and SVN plugins
[05:04] <valorie> jacky: how did you get that?
[05:04] <valorie> from within Dolphin?
[05:08] <jacky> yup
[05:08] <jacky> I'm using Trusty right now
[05:08] <jacky> It's one of the those service plugins
[05:09] <jacky> I'm asking because the moment I pop it open, I get a race condition.
[05:09] <jacky> I'd try to report it, but my local apport cache is filled :/
[05:11] <valorie> I don't see how one gets plugins
[05:13]  * jacky goes to make a screenshot
[05:13] <jacky> http://i.imgur.com/4lrLnCt.png
[05:13] <jacky> check it out
[05:14] <jacky> the services can be added as scripts
[05:14] <jacky> but that Dropbox one is a native one from what I gather
[05:15] <jacky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7220102
[05:15] <valorie> I got a crash as well
[05:16] <jacky> it's going to keep crashing
[05:16] <jacky> you'd have to go into ~/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc and remove 'Dropbox' from the VersionControl group
[05:16] <jacky> that'd be at the bottom of the file
[05:17] <jacky> I don't know if I should report this as a bug though
[05:18] <valorie> this will file a KDE bug though
[05:18] <valorie> all I did was check the Dropbox box, and restart Dolphin
[05:18] <valorie> immediate crash
[05:18] <valorie> wow, logging into bko is slow.....
[05:26] <valorie> jacky: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333185
[05:27] <valorie> you might add your input
[05:27] <jacky> I'll do so
[05:28] <valorie> danke; thanks for raising the issue
[05:31] <valorie> once I change VersionControl to null, dolphin starts again
[08:33] <sibe> libreoffice-kde bug on 14.04 lts !
[08:33] <valorie> sibe, known and being actively discussed
[08:34] <valorie> but `ubuntu-bug libreoffice-kde` will probably get you some matches to comment upon
[08:36] <sibe> What is the bug will be fixed by next week ? (sorry i don't no speak english very good because i'm french).
[08:48] <sibe> Speak french ?
[08:49] <OerHeks> !fr
[08:50] <sibe> kde5 will he included you in Kubuntu 14.10 ?
[08:52] <OerHeks> no, 14.04 will have KDE Applications and Platform 4.13
[08:52] <lordievader> sibe: No, 4.13 will be in Trusty.
[08:52] <sibe> Kubuntu 14.10 not 14.04 !!
[08:53] <lordievader> Ah, not sure if there are plans for 14.10 yet about kde. Try #kubuntu-devel.
[08:58] <sibe> Why Kubuntu is not personalized (unlike OpenSuSe, Mageia ...) ?
[09:01] <OerHeks> sibe what do you mean with personalized?
[09:04] <sibe> For example Xubuntu, they effect efforts to screen new background and a change theme lightdm with opensuse it also changes the theme but their sauce in kubuntu, you simply use the background default screen and the theme of the default KDE session. There is no customization effort. You take Ubuntu, you add KDE and that's all.
[09:04] <lordievader> sibe: Kubuntu tries to have a vanilla KDE experience.
[09:06] <sibe> sorry lordievader, i don't understand "vanilla kde experience", for me, vanilla its a ice.
[09:06] <lordievader> sibe: This one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_software
[09:07] <OerHeks> sibe you can peronalize your kubuntu as you like, if kubuntu does that for you, how would dat be personal?
[09:07] <sibe> ok in this case it is a mistake this strategy, which is why Kubuntu is not the Number one Linux distribution using KDE.
[09:08] <sibe>  In the future will require more effort Kubuntu level customization for 14.04 it's too late but I hope you will think for 14.10
[09:10] <sibe> and Libreoffice-kde bug on Kubuntu 14.04 LTS, fixe bug please !
[09:35] <lordievader> Actually I quite like the vanilla part.
[09:58] <alket> is there a kubuntu daily ?
[09:59] <lordievader> alket: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[09:59] <alket> lordievader: thanks
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:38] <darius93> Question, why on kubuntu when I select the amd proprietary gpu drivers that upon restarting and logging in that the gpu drivers crash and fallback to opensource (or no drivers?) until I enable compositing via commandline and reload using kwin --replace? This been happening ever since mid 13.10
[12:40] <Maxlel> I HAZ DLED KUBUNTU 13.10 HOW DOES ME INSTAL DIS SHIT FROM WINDOWES??????/////
[12:41] <Maxlel> TELL ME PL0X
[12:41] <lordievader> Maxlel: First of all, calm down and stop shouting.
[12:42] <Maxlel> nothing is working!!!!11
[12:42] <Maxlel> what do?
[12:42] <yossarianuk> Maxlel: what do you actually mean?
[12:42] <Maxlel> wubi is not working
[12:42] <lordievader> Maxlel: Secondly with a tool like unetbootin [1] you can make a live-usb, then boot from this live-usb and install Kubuntu. [1] http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[12:43] <lordievader> Maxlel: You don't want to use Wubi.
[12:43] <yossarianuk> wubi is crap
[12:43] <yossarianuk> and not supported.
[12:43] <yossarianuk> on newer versions
[12:43] <yossarianuk> (speed was far far slower than a real install)
[12:43] <Maxlel> LiveLinux USB creator okay?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> wubi isn't supported anylonger afaik
[12:45] <yossarianuk> really unless you need it today your perhaps better off waiting a week and installing 14.04 btw......
[12:45] <yossarianuk> (you can always upgrade)
[12:45] <Maxlel> I'm new to linux....
[12:46] <Maxlel> linux sucks in terms of user-friendliness
[12:46] <Maxlel> everything's so nerdy and geeky
[12:46] <lordievader> That's not quite true.
[12:47] <Maxlel> what's this persistence shit
[12:47] <Maxlel> I am allocating 2040mb of persistence is it okay?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Maxlel, do you have a support question, your opinion isn't  warranted or needed here , since you're to linux it reall doesn't matter
[12:47] <BluesKaj> new
[12:47] <Maxlel> okay support question ^
[12:48] <yossarianuk> Maxlel: you don;t need a persisance file just to install bw.
[12:49] <Maxlel> what's it needed for? Ty btw, you're the only person here making direct sense w/o some tyrant crap
[12:50] <yossarianuk> Maxlel: it means you can save files, etc to the USB live disk
[12:50] <yossarianuk> not needed for an install
[12:50] <yossarianuk> usefull if you plan to use the USB live cd to work on.
[12:50] <yossarianuk> not if your just installing.
[12:51] <Maxlel> hmm okay got it, the live USB is done
[12:51] <Maxlel> what now?
[12:51] <yossarianuk> (something you cannot do on other systems - like Windows)
[12:51] <yossarianuk> you need to boot off usb and install
[12:52] <Maxlel> you mean that change in bios thing and all
[12:52] <Maxlel> ?
[12:52] <darius93> Maxlel yes
[12:52] <darius93> normally most new systems allow you to boot from another source (eg cd, usb, hdd, etc) without changing anything in the bius
[12:52] <yossarianuk> most modern bios have a boot option - i.e press esc when booting to choose boot medium.
[12:52] <darius93> s/buis/bios
[12:53] <Maxlel> hmm okay anything to know before I log off and boot?
[12:53] <darius93> Everything is straight forward honestly
[12:54] <darius93> make sure to check the additional drivers/driver manager for any drivers
[12:54] <yossarianuk> if you have UEFI - the 13.10 iso is unbootable (without manual tweaking) unless you have a network connection during install and install updates
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Maxlel, suggest you do some research about partitoning if you intend to keep windows
[12:54] <yossarianuk> (they should have remade the .iso...)
[12:55] <yossarianuk> 14.04 the issue isn't there.
[12:55] <BluesKaj> !dualboot
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Maxlel,^
[12:55] <darius93> Or have a spare hard drive to use linux on
[12:56] <BluesKaj> heh, my spare has windows
[12:56] <Maxlel> I have desktop and a laptop
[12:56] <Maxlel> planning to get linux on both
[12:56] <Maxlel> but have windows 7 ultimate on both
[12:57] <Maxlel> windows is good, but it fucked my life once due to security threats
[12:57] <darius93> lol windows isnt that good honestly
[12:57] <darius93> but i have to admit, windows 8 was a big pain while 8.1 was kinda easier to use
[12:57] <yossarianuk> i've always thought Windows was terrible.
[12:58] <Maxlel> my laptop is UEFI dunno why in the hell these manufacturers made that shit
[12:58] <yossarianuk> I grew up using Amigas - in 1991 it could do things that Windows PC's still couldn;t do in 2001.
[12:58] <darius93> linux distos are wonderful to use. Those who are still using winxp should upgrade to 14.04 honestly
[12:58] <yossarianuk> Linux was closer to the Amiga ....
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Maxlel, pls no need for that kind of language here
[12:58] <Maxlel> sry it's kinda habit
[12:59] <yossarianuk> Maxlel: if you have UEFI just make sure you have a network connection - or just wait a week and install 14.04
[12:59] <yossarianuk> ( i mean a network connection during install)
[12:59] <Maxlel> so Kubuntu gonna upgrade in a week to 14.04?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> install 14.04 now, it's already quite stable
[13:00] <Maxlel> actually I'm not sure what linux distro to use Oo I read on internet that Kubuntu is a good choice for people coming over from windows
[13:01] <Maxlel> you guys got any advices?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Maxlel, yes the KDE desktop looks familiar to windows users
[13:02] <yossarianuk> Windows 7/Vista stole various aspects of its desktop from KDE 4.x.....
[13:02] <Maxlel> nice, so if I install 13.10 now, how much time do you reckon it'll take for an upgrade?
[13:03] <darius93> yossarianuk, thats microsoft for you ;P
[13:03] <yossarianuk> i.e the menu (which was first used in Opensuse's version..)
[13:03] <yossarianuk> Windows 8.x is a unity/gnome clone imo...
[13:03] <Maxlel> on an average I mean, what's the time needed for an upgrade?
[13:03] <darius93> Maxlel, you can always upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 but its best to use kubuntu 14.04 since it is stable
[13:03] <yossarianuk> depends on your connection speed
[13:04] <Maxlel> I get 500 kbps avg
[13:04] <Maxlel> 400-500 kbps
[13:04] <darius93> and it also depends on what all you have installed
[13:04] <yossarianuk> could be  awhile then - maybe 30 - 75 mins
[13:04] <darius93> once everything is installed run apt-get update;apt-get upgrade;apt-get dist-upgrade then upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10
[13:04] <yossarianuk> (also depends on speed of you disks, etc)
[13:05] <yossarianuk> apt-get update;apt-get upgrade;apt-get dist-upgrade  - that will not upgrade the version.
[13:05] <yossarianuk> do-release-upgrade will upgrade
[13:05] <yossarianuk> personally i would just wait
[13:05] <darius93> yossarianuk, im referring to the software not the OS upgrade
[13:05] <Maxlel> hmm....a week....
[13:05] <yossarianuk> ah ok !
[13:06] <yossarianuk> the initial release of 14.04 may have a few more bugs in also... they are using kde 4.13 (only released in next few days.)
[13:06] <darius93> Maxlel, its completely your choice. You can wait a week for the official release, or use 14.04 beta, or ue 13.10 until the official release
[13:06] <yossarianuk> but kde 4.13 will be better in long run.
[13:07] <darius93> at least they get updates out faster than windows >.<
[13:08] <BluesKaj> too much info, just let him decide
[13:08] <darius93> ^
[13:08] <Maxlel> need linux urgently to run a sniffer lel
[13:08] <Striezl> Hello
[13:08] <darius93> a sniffer?
[13:08] <darius93> hi Striezl
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Maxlel, get it out of your head that linux is for black hat hackers
[13:10] <Maxlel> it's all for academical purposes Blues
[13:10] <Maxlel> if you know what I mean xD
[13:10] <darius93> Maxlel, thats what they all say >.<
[13:10] <Striezl> here kubuntu is calling for help
[13:10] <Striezl> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved
[13:10] <Striezl> i want to help but how?
[13:10] <Maxlel> send them $$$$$$$$$$$$$444
[13:11] <Pici> Striezl: There are a bunch of ways listed there Support/Development/Design/etc is there one of those that you have questions about?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> good riddance as far as I'm concerned ...users like him we don't need
[13:19] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: almost like he was just a troll...
[13:20] <darius93> how stable is Muon Discover in 14.04? in 13.10 it would randomly crash here and there
[13:22] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk,  he is , asking about sniffers, that trolling IMO.
[13:23] <BluesKaj> darius93, still a bit unstable here too, so i just use muon by itself for package reference
[13:24] <yossarianuk> is kubuntu 14.04 due out the same day as ubuntu (it norammly is...)
[13:24] <darius93> afaik yes
[13:24] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:32] <Maxlel> guys it's me
[13:32] <Maxlel> need help
[13:32] <Maxlel> I am trying to install kubuntu on my system
[13:32] <Maxlel> in 4th step of Disk setup, it's doing something
[13:33] <Maxlel> I want to dual boot
[13:33] <Maxlel> but it's taking up entire disk
[13:33] <Maxlel> !duallog
[13:33] <lordievader> Maxlel: Then select the dualboot option. (side by side, or however it is called these days).
[13:33] <lordievader> !dualboot
[13:35] <Maxlel> thta's totally incomprehensible matter >.>
[13:35] <Maxlel> *that's
[13:36] <Maxlel> so my situation is this - I have 1TB drive divided it into 4 partitions C,D,E,F
[13:36] <Maxlel> all my partitions have data!!!
[13:36] <Maxlel> what to do!?
[13:37] <Maxlel> pls help....
[13:38] <lordievader> Maxlel: Resize that's the way it's called these days: http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation#Disk_Setup
[13:39] <Maxlel> O_O
[13:39] <Maxlel> I do not have that option!!
[13:39] <Maxlel> that screenshot is from 14.10
[13:39] <Maxlel> >.>
[13:40] <Maxlel> I'm using 13.10
[13:40] <lordievader> It's from 14.04, but it should be the same in 13.10.
[13:40] <Maxlel> I have only 4 options
[13:40] <Maxlel> 3 guided and 1 manual
[13:41] <Maxlel> that Guided Resize radio button is not there here
[13:42] <Maxlel> cool....ubi-partman crashed
[13:42] <Maxlel> and Linux was supposed to be hang and crash free >.>
[13:42] <lordievader> Perhaps none of the partitions can resizes sufficiently.
[13:42] <lordievader> No one said that.
[13:43] <lordievader> Everything can crash.
[13:43] <wuschLOR> ;)
[13:43] <lordievader> And most will crash at some point.
[13:44] <lordievader> Maxlel: Anyhow I suppose that ubiquity cannot make a sane choice for the resize.
[13:44] <Maxlel> so...that's it for me? Gameover?
[13:45] <lordievader> Maxlel: No there is allways the manual option. But in any case be sure to have a backup.
[13:46] <Maxlel> man this is so slow, could it be because of USB running?
[13:47] <lordievader> Maxlel: Very probable, live-sessions from a usb are typically slow.
[13:48] <Maxlel> so went to the manual thing
[13:49] <Maxlel> how to know what device is what partition? O.o
[13:50] <Maxlel> what's this boot loader?
[13:51] <lordievader> Maxlel: You can simply mount the partitions to determine wich is wich.
[13:51] <lordievader> !grub
[16:12] <rcw2> do you all use google hangouts for video conferencing
[16:13] <OerHeks> rcw2, that would a question for #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <rcw2> thanks
[16:44] <yossarianuk> google hangouts doesn;t work correctly in KDE
[16:44] <yossarianuk> when you re-focus a chat it doesn't work
[17:21] <filles> hello
[18:08] <Junk> Anyone currently using 14.04 notice that the new driver manager comes up in the systray on every startup, causing a notifcation also, even after all the propietary drivers are enabled? It's kind of annoying me, and am wondering if there might be a fix.
[18:09] <Junk> This is on a upgrade, not a clean install. But I don't see why that would make a difference in this case.
[18:25] <alonso> ping
[18:26] <alon50> ping
[18:27] <lordievader> pong!
[19:26] <Maxlel> how to select a Root definition?
[19:27] <Maxlel> from partition table during installation?
[20:18] <loverdrive> Hi. I need to install Kubuntu today. Since kubuntu 14.04 is being releasing, in a few day, is stupid install kubuntu 41.04 now?  I think now it should be quite stable...
[20:21] <lordievader> loverdrive: It should be (and is) but it is never recommended to go with a development edition. And Trusty still is devel edition, so the recommendation is Saucy.
[20:23] <loverdrive> lordievader, thank you. is no worse perform an update (rather than a clean install) in a week?
[20:25] <lordievader> loverdrive: An upgrade from Saucy to Trusty should be no problem. But, as always, be sure to have a backup ;)
[20:26] <loverdrive> lordievader, ok, thank you!
[20:27] <lordievader> loverdrive: Have fun Kubuntu'ing :)
[20:42] <Leoneof> is there kubuntu dev edition like Debian Testing?
[20:45] <wxl> i'm sure this gets asked a million times but is trusty going to be an LTS for kubuntu like it will be for ubuntu, etc?
[20:46] <paolinux> ciao  a tutti
[20:47] <PaulW2U> wxl: yes
[20:47] <wxl> PaulW2U: wonderful. thanks for the hard work. :)
[20:48] <paolinux> Hi to all
[20:50] <paolinux> there is anyone that know if usb webcam  PCVC740K ToUcam Pro works correctly with kubuntu 13.10 (kernel 3.11.0-19)?
[20:58] <will_> hello
[22:02] <Cenbe> Just pulled Trusty updates on my laptop and now I get "Could not start D-Bus. Can you call qdbus?" after logging in to lightdm. Any ideas?
[22:17] <tsimpson> Cenbe: installing qdbus-qt5 should work, or removing qt5-default
[22:32] <Cenbe> tsimpson: Installed qdbus-qt5, no change. qg5-default was already installed.
[22:33] <Cenbe> s/qg5-default/qt5-default/
[22:38] <tsimpson> Cenbe: removing qt5-default, not installing
[22:38] <tsimpson> though installing qdbus-qt5 should have fixed it afaik
[22:39] <Cenbe> Sorry, mean to say it was already *not* installed.
[22:46] <tsimpson> weird, it should work so long as you have 'qdbus' installed, or 'qdbus-qt5' if you have 'qt5-default' installed