| === rww_ is now known as rww | ||
| dw1 | so yeah, screensaver kicking in every 10 minutes no matter if there's activity, even with caffeine loaded and screensaver disabled :o | 00:16 |
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| dw1 | not sure when it started - didnt notice it before. | 00:17 |
| dw1 | perhaps after some recent updates | 00:17 |
| ggreer | I get double lock screen when idling. also I get a gray screen if I lock my computer manually and then try to unlock it later | 00:18 |
| ggreer | and if I resume from suspend, there's a second or so gap when the lock screen isn't enabled. I can quickly change focus to terminals and other windows | 00:19 |
| ggreer | so... I don't really trust that laptop with anything sensitive | 00:19 |
| dw1 | ouch | 00:22 |
| dw1 | saw something about double lock screen in searching, lost it :( | 00:24 |
| dw1 | are thye both the same style of screen or different versions | 00:26 |
| dw1 | hmm i had two gnome-screensaver running | 00:28 |
| dw1 | that was probably it | 00:32 |
| nbros652 | Automount for usb is not working. Any ideas? I get a message saying "Unable to access USBLABEL Not authorized to perform operation." I just installed the system about 3 days ago, installed my usual programs, shut it down, and didn't boot again until today. On boot, I was getting this error... Just finished running updates. | 00:41 |
| zubuntu | hi | 00:47 |
| ubuntulivekkkkkk | Hello, I have some issues that resulted from removing Ubuntu-s 14.04 partition and booting to any other partitions. Can I post my issue here? | 03:21 |
| === `Fibz`` is now known as `Fibz | ||
| roasted | hello friends. | 04:42 |
| roasted | is anybody else seeing that empathy doesn't put the # of new messages overtop of the empathy icon in the unity bar? | 04:42 |
| `Fibz | hi | 04:42 |
| `Fibz | i can test | 04:42 |
| roasted | I can't find any existent bugs on it | 04:42 |
| roasted | `Fibz: I assume you know how to recreate it? | 04:43 |
| roasted | (someone messages you when empathy is not the active app) | 04:43 |
| `Fibz | k | 04:43 |
| roasted | I seem to get the message number *IF* it's a new conversation, as in, if Bob IMs me, I see the 1 over the icon. But once I engage in conversation, consecutive messages do not list the 1 over the empathy icon | 04:43 |
| roasted | so you need to do a quick volley of messaging back and forth, then background it, then have them IM you | 04:44 |
| roasted | any luck `Fibz? | 04:54 |
| `Fibz | having trouble getting empathy to sign in | 04:54 |
| kblin | morning folks | 04:55 |
| roasted | once or twice I had to remove my account and re-add it altogether | 04:55 |
| roasted | hey there kblin | 04:55 |
| kblin | I've recently updated my xubuntu 13.04 laptop to 14.04, and I just noticed that my volume control keys stopped working | 04:56 |
| kblin | that's like the first time in 6 years that I had buttons on a thinkpad not working. any hints what I'm missing? | 04:56 |
| roasted | random curiosity, does it work via livecd? | 04:56 |
| kblin | haven't tried, let me see if I can find a usb key to boot from | 04:58 |
| arctictelecom | Hello | 05:04 |
| roasted | hi | 05:04 |
| arctictelecom | I just installed 14.04 and I want to install the Cinnamon DE. It worked fine in all of the other Ubuntu distros but not this one. | 05:05 |
| `Fibz | I GIVE UP. EMPATHY DOES NOT WORK AT ALL OVER HERE | 05:05 |
| `Fibz | oops | 05:05 |
| roasted | lol | 05:05 |
| ggreer | haha | 05:06 |
| kblin | roasted: http://ulno.net/2011/04/16/mixer-control-with-multimedia-keys-und-multiple-soundcards-in-xfce4-on-debian-or-ubuntu/ fixed it for me, btw | 05:06 |
| roasted | `Fibz: do you use pidgin or not much of a messenger? | 05:06 |
| roasted | kblin: nice | 05:06 |
| ggreer | my media keys work but my backlight brightness doesn't :( | 05:06 |
| ggreer | it stays stuck at maximum even though the indicator moves around randomly when I hit increase/decrease | 05:06 |
| kblin | so basically adding an active-card settings entry for xfce-mixer | 05:06 |
| kblin | ggreer: got the same thing on my work thinkpad | 05:06 |
| ggreer | mine is a thinkpad x140e | 05:07 |
| ggreer | also known as the edge e145 overseas IIRC | 05:07 |
| `Fibz | i use pidgin. but the machine next to me had empathy. i decided i wanted to give empathy a try and now im headed back to pidgin :P | 05:07 |
| kblin | ggreer: funny thing is that the button seems to work fine in the console | 05:07 |
| ggreer | I'm pretty sure it's a bug in the thinkpad acpi module | 05:07 |
| roasted | `Fibz: might have to head that way myself. Does pidgin give you a number over the icon in the unity bar? | 05:07 |
| `Fibz | will have to wait. need to install pidgin on that machine and it's getting it's updates right now | 05:08 |
| kblin | ggreer: so what I do on my x140 is that I ctrl-alt-f1, set the display brightness on the console and then ctrl-F7 back to the GUI | 05:08 |
| Phibs | so I'm running trusty, and I upgraded openssl for the heartbleed bug, and http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/ seems to still think it is vuln | 05:08 |
| kblin | ggreer: arguably it'd be nicer if it just worked (tm) | 05:08 |
| roasted | `Fibz: I wonder if there's a way to have the system auto-message you 5 seconds later to test. | 05:09 |
| roasted | `Fibz: nobody is online now for me to see how pidgin works with that. | 05:09 |
| kblin | incidently, I just tested on my r500, and brightness settings work fine there | 05:09 |
| `Fibz | i have pidging running on this machine | 05:09 |
| `Fibz | i can PM you my contact info | 05:09 |
| roasted | sure - I'd be interested to test | 05:10 |
| ggreer | kblin: you have the x140e as well? buttons don't work at all in the console for me | 05:10 |
| ggreer | the only way I can get the brightness to change is by booting into windows | 05:10 |
| kblin | I'm not sure mine says "e" | 05:11 |
| zubuntu | . | 05:11 |
| kblin | i forgot, frankly :) | 05:11 |
| ggreer | http://fujii.github.io/2014/03/02/thinkpad-edge-e145-backlight-brightness-issue/ <-- my issue is exactly the same as this dude | 05:11 |
| ggreer | kblin: what's the CPU in it? | 05:11 |
| ggreer | should be an AMD A4-5000 or E2-2500 | 05:11 |
| ggreer | *E1-2500 | 05:12 |
| kblin | ah, hang on, false alarm, we wanted to order the x-series at some point but that didn't work out, so we got t-series instead | 05:13 |
| kblin | sorry :) | 05:13 |
| ggreer | the x130e was intel | 05:13 |
| ggreer | ah | 05:13 |
| kblin | but that one also has backlight setting issues, at least in X | 05:13 |
| ggreer | with the right software, the thinkpad could be a very nice laptop | 05:14 |
| roasted | our x130e's at work are AMD APU's | 05:14 |
| ggreer | oh yeah. the x130e did have an option for AMD E350s I think | 05:14 |
| roasted | E450 | 05:15 |
| roasted | pretty sure | 05:15 |
| ggreer | did you guys have backlight issues? | 05:15 |
| roasted | no, but we're on 12.04 | 05:15 |
| ggreer | I tried 12.04. it crashed on startup | 05:15 |
| ggreer | even the live usb stick | 05:15 |
| roasted | ...ours didnt? | 05:15 |
| ggreer | same usb stick worked fine on other computers :( | 05:15 |
| kblin | but speaking of work, time for me to get there | 05:16 |
| roasted | ggreer: run the checker to make sure it was okay? | 05:17 |
| ggreer | I did. it verified | 05:17 |
| roasted | ...I have no idea then | 05:17 |
| roasted | we have 1,000 of the x130e's on 12.04.. | 05:17 |
| ggreer | 13.10 also crashed with a similar error. 14.04 boots and runs, but there are lots of annoying little issues | 05:17 |
| roasted | I had 13.10 on a few too, mostly for tinkering though | 05:18 |
| roasted | I did install 14.04 on one but never tested the brightness | 05:18 |
| roasted | really just installed it to see how unity ran on it | 05:18 |
| weena | hello | 05:26 |
| weena | i haz a problem :( | 05:27 |
| weena | volume is at 100% when the computer boots and login screen chime (bongos) is super loud | 05:35 |
| weena | the computer can be shut down at 30% volume, it always is at 100% for the login bongos, then after the user logs in its 30% again | 05:35 |
| hyde | This seems to be failing with apt-get update: [Connecting to fi.archive.ubuntu.com (130.230.54.102)] | 06:13 |
| hyde | what would be the right corrective action, if I want to update and install a few packages now? | 06:13 |
| hyde | have not touch apt repositories since I installed beta2 yesterday | 06:13 |
| hyde | (and it was working yesterday) | 06:13 |
| hyde | have not touched the apt configuration, I mean | 06:14 |
| rww | changed /etc/apt/sources.list to point to somewhere else | 06:15 |
| hyde | for example, should I just replace fi.archive.ubuntu.com at /etc/apt/sources.list, and be done with it? | 06:15 |
| hyde | hmm, running lubuntu, which lacks the graphical apt configuration tool, looks like | 06:17 |
| hyde | nope, found it, good | 06:17 |
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| caskaid | anyone using a vpn via network-manager-gnome-openvpn? | 06:36 |
| caskaid | figured out the vpn issue actually and tracked on bug tracker | 07:02 |
| guest76 | Hello | 07:13 |
| `Fibz | hi | 07:15 |
| guest76 | Hello | 07:16 |
| guest76 | any way to make libreoffice to start? | 07:16 |
| `Fibz | are you getting an error? | 07:17 |
| guest76 | it just hangs with a semi transparent window | 07:17 |
| guest76 | I have upgraded distribution today | 07:18 |
| `Fibz | hmm... i would just uninstall it and re-install it | 07:18 |
| guest76 | Ok I'll try that | 07:18 |
| guest76 | thanks | 07:18 |
| guest76 | let you know if it worked | 07:19 |
| === guest76 is now known as Alonso | ||
| Kartagis | hi | 07:55 |
| Kartagis | do we get new apt version with 14.04 | 07:55 |
| Kartagis | ? | 07:55 |
| === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia | ||
| Kartagis | do we get the new apt version with 14.04? | 07:59 |
| lordievader | !patience | Kartagis | 08:00 |
| ubottu | Kartagis: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ | 08:00 |
| * Kartagis sulks and goes to wait in the corner | 08:01 | |
| yofel | !info apt trusty | 08:05 |
| ubottu | apt (source: apt): commandline package manager. In component main, is important. Version 0.9.15.4ubuntu5 (trusty), package size 938 kB, installed size 3503 kB | 08:05 |
| yofel | Kartagis: that's what we have now ^ | 08:05 |
| Kartagis | when do we get 1.0? I hear debian already has it. | 08:06 |
| yofel | it's in unstable, yes. But I seriously dout anyone's going to update it in ubuntu 2 days before final freeze. (Then again, I did not check for if there's a plan) | 08:07 |
| onlty | If you want to get 1.0, you could install those packages directly. However, I'm not sure if it breaks the dependecy or stability. | 08:07 |
| onlty | Whether 1.0 works in Ubuntu or not is not sure, so install it as your own risk. | 08:08 |
| onlty | *in | 08:08 |
| Kartagis | thanks | 08:19 |
| utack | did someone test a android phone with ubuntu 14.04 yet? do thumbnails for pictures work now? | 08:25 |
| k1l | are you talking about ubuntu-touch or regular ubuntu-desktop? | 08:26 |
| k1l | ah, wait. you mean connected with usb-cable? | 08:27 |
| utack | k1l, the regular one | 08:40 |
| utack | and yes, when i connect my android phone it can not generate thumbnails | 08:40 |
| utack | so for example the DCIM folder is a pool of anonymous file names until i copy it over completely | 08:40 |
| Dry_Lips | Can anyone confirm that "create new document" is missing from the context menu (right click) in Nautilus? | 08:54 |
| PatBateman | hey | 09:02 |
| PatBateman | 14.04 default background looks nice :) btw very stable imo | 09:02 |
| k1l | utack: file names work, but i dont have thumbnails enabled so i just see the icons | 09:03 |
| utack | k1l, okay thanks | 09:04 |
| Chipaca | my mouse's middle button has stopped working in an update recently | 09:10 |
| Chipaca | has anybody else had this? | 09:10 |
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| faqih_dan_kucing | helo | 10:00 |
| ironhalik | hmm | 10:17 |
| ironhalik | my trusty boots, and looses all input ufter boot | 10:18 |
| ironhalik | on every kernel, on normal mode and rescue mode | 10:18 |
| ironhalik | recovery mode | 10:18 |
| ironhalik | any ideas? | 10:18 |
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| === kblin_ is now known as kblin | ||
| Fudge | have you waited a while | 11:42 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:04 |
| === Guest12128 is now known as ItsYoda | ||
| === Yoda is now known as Guest39516 | ||
| === Guest39516 is now known as ItsYoda | ||
| roasted | hello friends | 13:16 |
| utack | oh no. have to install ubuntu 14.04 with the intel gpu because the free drivers completely mess up with nvidia, so i cannot use the gui installer | 13:50 |
| Phibs | any idea why openssl isn't patched in trusty yet? | 13:52 |
| Pici | it is. | 13:53 |
| k1l | Phibs: did you look in the changelog? | 13:54 |
| lordievader | Phibs: Change logs shows the patch: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/openssl/1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 | 13:54 |
| Phibs | weird | 13:54 |
| Phibs | cause all of the 'testers' still say vuln | 13:54 |
| k1l | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2/changelog | 13:54 |
| Phibs | ii openssl 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 amd64 Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility | 13:54 |
| rww | have you restarted the services you're testing since the upgrade? | 13:55 |
| Phibs | yes | 13:55 |
| Phibs | rebooted whole vm | 13:55 |
| Phibs | http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/#www.bsd-unix.net | 13:55 |
| Phibs | www.bsd-unix.net IS VULNERABLE. | 13:55 |
| Phibs | restarted apache just now and now it says not vuln lol | 13:56 |
| Phibs | ok I spose I fail ;0 | 13:56 |
| Phibs | thanks! | 13:56 |
| Pici | :) | 13:56 |
| Phibs | swear to god I apt-get updated | 13:56 |
| Phibs | and rebooted ;0 | 13:56 |
| Phibs | 09:56:50 up 10:56, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.09, 0.07 | 13:56 |
| Phibs | I wonder if automagic escurity updates updated something again after I did | 13:59 |
| roasted | well, shucks. My bug report just got listed as low priority. hmph. | 14:06 |
| roasted | This hizzy should be omgosh critical red alert call the president! :P | 14:06 |
| rww | thank you for bringing it to our attention. i will reclassify your bug shortly | 14:06 |
| rww | to wishlist | 14:06 |
| roasted | rww: <3 | 14:08 |
| unkerror | which kernel version will Trusty use in the final release? | 14:16 |
| k1l | 3.13 | 14:18 |
| unkerror | thanks | 14:18 |
| Wnt | unkerror: kernel freeze happened 5 days ago https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule and current version is 3.13 http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/linux-meta | 14:19 |
| === Guest4788 is now known as henrik | ||
| elfy | xubuntu265: you'll find some of the same people :) | 16:44 |
| elfy | apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0 | 16:46 |
| elfy | if you get 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 then that is the updated package | 16:47 |
| xubuntu265 | Installed: 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 | 16:47 |
| xubuntu265 | sweet, so im good? | 16:47 |
| elfy | that's the one then :) | 16:47 |
| xubuntu265 | cool, thank you :) | 16:48 |
| monkwitdafunk | which kernel are you users giving QA to? | 16:48 |
| monkwitdafunk | i remember seeing kernel 3.5.x witg ubuntu alternate | 16:49 |
| monkwitdafunk | with* | 16:49 |
| elfy | 3.13.0-23 here | 16:49 |
| monkwitdafunk | i think i should install alternate 12.04.3 to double check which kernel i get | 16:51 |
| elfy | oh sorry - thought you were talking about 14.04 | 16:52 |
| monkwitdafunk | yeah. i want to talk about it as well but i will wait for the official torrent file to he mirrored | 16:53 |
| monkwitdafunk | to be* | 16:53 |
| monkwitdafunk | this is great | 16:53 |
| SonikkuAmerica | In Xubuntu Trusty, the sound indicator is gone, and I get no sound unless I plug my headphones in. What should I do? | 16:59 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Hi diogobaeder | 17:21 |
| diogobaeder | Hi SonikkuAmerica ! | 17:21 |
| diogobaeder | Hi guys! Hey, I can't upgrade from Saucy to Trusty, the upgrade-manager seems to be getting stuck at several package problems, but this hasn't happened before. Can anyone give me a hand at this? This is a list of package problems I'm seeing in apt.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7222508/ | 17:21 |
| SonikkuAmerica | diogobaeder: Did you [ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ] before you tried to perform the release upgrade? | 17:22 |
| diogobaeder | SonikkuAmerica, yep. I tried restarting as well. But doesn't seem to cut it. | 17:22 |
| SonikkuAmerica | !dist-upgrade diogobaeder: That's just a dist-upgrade. | 17:23 |
| ubottu | SonikkuAmerica: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 17:23 |
| SonikkuAmerica | !dist-upgrade | 17:23 |
| ubottu | A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention. | 17:23 |
| SonikkuAmerica | diogobaeder: Try [ do-release-upgrade ] | 17:24 |
| SonikkuAmerica | diogobaeder: Try [ do-release-upgrade -d ], not that other thing. | 17:24 |
| * diogobaeder tries | 17:24 | |
| diogobaeder | SonikkuAmerica, still with the same issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7222605/ | 17:37 |
| dw1 | hi, what is the mount point for nautilus ftp folders? can't find it in ~/.gvfs or /run/gvfs | 17:37 |
| diogobaeder | even after sudo dpkg --configure -a | 17:37 |
| SonikkuAmerica | diogobaeder: If all else fails, try the Beta 2 image at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/beta-2/ | 17:37 |
| SonikkuAmerica | but let's try fixing a broken apt | 17:37 |
| diogobaeder | SonikkuAmerica, ack, I'll try with that image then | 17:37 |
| diogobaeder | SonikkuAmerica, ack | 17:37 |
| dw1 | nevermind got it | 17:38 |
| SonikkuAmerica | diogobaeder: First try [ sudo apt-get install -f ] | 17:38 |
| diogobaeder | SonikkuAmerica, done | 17:38 |
| Junk | Any kubuntu 14.04 users I can bounce a question off of real quick? | 18:14 |
| lordievader | Junk: Sure, what's up? | 18:15 |
| Junk | Basically on every startup driver manager loads down in my systray, causing a notification, etc. And this is after I have all the available propietary drivers installed. It's just kind of annoying | 18:15 |
| Junk | So, wanted to see if it happens for anyone else, or if I could stop it from happening somehow. | 18:15 |
| lordievader | Junk: I don't use any additional drivers on my Trusty box, so I cannot say. | 18:16 |
| Junk | This is obviously the new driver manager I am referring to. | 18:16 |
| Junk | lordievader: but do you have any available? | 18:16 |
| Junk | ie, so the driver manager would be triggered? | 18:16 |
| Junk | It doesn't matter if I don't use any prop drivers or not, the damn thing still shows on every boot, triggering a notification. I suppose I could disable notifications for it, but it would still load in the systray. | 18:17 |
| lordievader | No, most of the hardware is Intel stuff. | 18:17 |
| lordievader | I'll boot it up though to make sure. | 18:18 |
| Junk | Ah ok. I'm uising a gaming laptop, newest gen. It has a intel i7, but nvidia gpu and broadcom AC wifi | 18:18 |
| Junk | It is a upgrade and not a clean install, but I don't see why that would be the issue in this case. The upgrade went without a hitch when I originally did it a couple weeks back. | 18:19 |
| Junk | I don't see any bugs for it in the bug tracker, but then again I really can't stand the layout of the launchpad bug tracker to begin with. Wish their wash a seperate one just for kubuntu. :-/ | 18:20 |
| lordievader | I get the message that my language support can be improved but nothing about drivers. | 18:21 |
| lordievader | Separate launchpad for Kubu doesn't make sense... | 18:22 |
| lordievader | And no additional drivers available either. | 18:22 |
| Junk | It makes sense for me. Or at least have a category where you can look for bugs that are kubuntu only | 18:23 |
| lordievader | Junk: Something like: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs | 18:25 |
| === alonso is now known as alon50 | ||
| Junk | Hmm yeah. Interesting kubuntus own site doesnt link to that when it mentions their own bug tracker | 18:26 |
| Junk | It links to the standard ubuntu bug tracker | 18:26 |
| Junk | ie: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs | 18:26 |
| Pici | But you can install every package in 'kubuntu' in Ubuntu. They all use the same repositores. | 18:26 |
| Pici | *repositories. (can't spell today) | 18:26 |
| holstein | kubuntu *is* ubuntu | 18:27 |
| lordievader | Exactly that's why it doesn't make sens to have a separate launchpad for Kubu ;) | 18:27 |
| Junk | I realize this | 18:29 |
| Junk | Though kubuntu is no longer "official" as of a few years ago iirc | 18:30 |
| lordievader | ? | 18:31 |
| holstein | Junk: no. it is | 18:32 |
| Junk | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/ubuntu-pulls-the-official-plug-on-kubuntu/3417/ | 18:32 |
| holstein | Junk: kubuntu *is* ubuntu, and uses the default sources/repositories. same as main ubuntu and xubuntu/lubuntu etc | 18:32 |
| Junk | I realize this | 18:32 |
| holstein | !kubuntu | 18:32 |
| ubottu | Kubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde | 18:32 |
| Junk | sigh.... | 18:32 |
| * Junk is not a noob | 18:33 | |
| lordievader | Junk: It is now backed by Bluesystems if that is what you mean. | 18:33 |
| Junk | That is exactly what I mean. Cannonical dropped it | 18:33 |
| holstein | Junk: there was a paid developer. thats what was dropped | 18:33 |
| holstein | Junk: nothing was dropped other than that | 18:33 |
| holstein | Junk: kubuntu is an official flavor | 18:33 |
| Junk | Not according to ubuntu | 18:34 |
| lordievader | Also according to Ubuntu. | 18:34 |
| holstein | Junk: yes.. according to everyone | 18:34 |
| holstein | Junk: this is fact, friend | 18:34 |
| lordievader | Else it couldn't bear the name Kubuntu. | 18:34 |
| holstein | Junk: there was a paid cannonical developer for kubuntu.. they dropped that paid position.. thats all | 18:35 |
| Junk | lordievader: there are plenty of *buntu flavors that are not "official" and use the name | 18:35 |
| PaulW2U | Junk: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors | 18:35 |
| Junk | I really don't care, not sure why you guys are making such a big deal. | 18:36 |
| holstein | Junk: there are only a few that are "official", and kubuntu is one of them | 18:36 |
| holstein | Junk: i am personally only "making a big deal" for clarity sake | 18:36 |
| Junk | Then why did canonnical say themselves it is no longer official? I understand it is semantics, and nothin really changed of value, but they did say that. | 18:37 |
| Junk | Ya know what? Nevermind, im done arguing semantics that are incredibly pointless | 18:37 |
| holstein | Junk: the link you gave says that the paid developer was dropped.. *not* kubuntu | 18:37 |
| Junk | They ended paid support also | 18:38 |
| Junk | Not just the developer | 18:38 |
| hyde | some kind of related question: is there a Mate/Gnome2 version of *buntu14.04? | 18:38 |
| Junk | nothing official | 18:38 |
| holstein | Junk: kubuntu is an official flavour.. it *is* ubuntu | 18:39 |
| Junk | Jesus christ... | 18:39 |
| Junk | Have a cow... oh wait, you are one according to your nick :P | 18:39 |
| holstein | Junk: please use an offtopic channel for chat.. thanks! | 18:39 |
| Junk | Chat? I am responding to you | 18:39 |
| Junk | And when I last said "nothing official" I was replying to hyde | 18:40 |
| lordievader | Since when does paid support make something official? Just that Canonical dropped their payed support doesn't make it less of an official Ubuntu flavour. | 18:41 |
| Junk | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005782.html | 18:41 |
| holstein | Junk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors lists the official flavors | 18:42 |
| Junk | Again, pointless conversation. | 18:42 |
| hyde | Junk: about the KDE thing, if you can install the DE with single command from the official repos, I'd say that is "official" for most practical purposes... | 18:42 |
| hyde | (I assume getting KDE desktop is still going to be one apt-get away) | 18:43 |
| holstein | you can always just install KDE, and not kubuntu-desktop.. but, kubuntu-desktop should pull in what you need to change whatever ubuntu into kubuntu | 18:43 |
| Junk | Of course. Nothing changed | 18:43 |
| Junk | But repositoiry sharing does make something official. Is mint an official flavor? :P | 18:43 |
| * hyde is Xubuntu/Lubuntu refugee, who never "got" KDE, and hasn't really given Unity a real chance | 18:44 | |
| holstein | Junk: no.. since they add sources, and are not an official ubuntu flavour | 18:44 |
| Junk | Anyways, disappointing I cannot make a bug report for driver manager | 18:44 |
| hyde | ...is it possible to turn Ubuntu into Mint just by tweaking repos, btw? I mean, theoretically, without need to manually fix things. | 18:45 |
| holstein | hyde: you should find that information at mint sites.. | 18:45 |
| holstein | hyde: mint is "based" on ubuntu, so, nothing in ubuntu is preventing that | 18:46 |
| Junk | hyde: i suppose you could, but i would think some fixing would be in order | 18:46 |
| john_rambo | May be I didnt searched properly but when I serached for Ubuntu 14.04 I found the Beta 2 ....Its downloading now ...Is it too old in comparision to daily ? Is it usable ? | 18:57 |
| rww | it works fine, just do a normal system update once it's installed | 18:58 |
| RFleming | rww, libssl1.0.0 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 is the patched version for 14.04 correct? | 18:59 |
| john_rambo | rww, Okay ...just one more thing ...Aftre using dd to write the image to usb is there a way to use the remaining space on the usb drive to backup files? | 18:59 |
| hyde | ...or just tick the checkbox to install updated packages during installation, should work right? | 19:00 |
| rww | RFleming: yes | 19:00 |
| hyde | john_rambo: there's the usb creator tool in Ubuntu, which should help with that. unetbooting can do it too I presume? At least there are the options | 19:00 |
| RFleming | rww, thanks :) | 19:00 |
| john_rambo | Okay | 19:02 |
| hyde | UNetbootin* | 19:04 |
| rohan | on kubuntu 14.04, I am unable to choose "Cover switch" as my preferred window switch visualisation. Anyone face the same issue? | 19:40 |
| Beldar | !14.04 > rohan | 19:47 |
| ubottu | rohan, please see my private message | 19:47 |
| rohan | Beldar: ok, not sure what the point of it is | 19:47 |
| Beldar | rohan, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel until release, you can read right? | 19:48 |
| lordievader | rohan: Right I needed to check if OpenGL works again, I'll check if your problem exists here too. | 19:48 |
| rohan | lordievader: yes, i think it's a problem with opengl.. i read the latest launchpad bugs around it, but it seems my problem is still not fixed | 19:49 |
| rohan | lordievader: do you have a way of checking it? | 19:49 |
| Beldar | rohan, sorry not enough caffeine yet my mistake, sorry about that. | 19:49 |
| rohan | Beldar: sure! :) | 19:49 |
| Beldar | Doh, ;) | 19:49 |
| lordievader | Beldar: Happens to the best of us without caffeine ;) | 19:49 |
| rohan | lordievader: ah actually, removing kwinrc and restarting kde fixed it! (i had to manually choose cover switch as the visual) | 19:50 |
| lordievader | Few weeks ago OpenGL stopped working on my intel box, don't know why. Perhaps that is fixed since then. And it just might be that the cover switch is related. | 19:50 |
| lordievader | Ah, good to hear. Well I'm still going to check OpenGL ;) | 19:50 |
| rohan | lordievader: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1299499 | 19:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1299499 in Mesa "kwin crashes on desktop startup with wobbly windows enabled" [High,Confirmed] | 19:51 |
| rohan | fixed in latest mesa | 19:51 |
| rohan | my kwinrc had decided to always use xrender, presumably because opengl was crashing | 19:52 |
| rohan | with this bug fixed it's now all good, just needed to remove kwinrc | 19:52 |
| lordievader | Hmm opengl still crashes... | 19:55 |
| lordievader | Hmm, Xrender now throws an error too. | 19:57 |
| SorenHolm | Hi | 20:42 |
| SorenHolm | Are you guys also seeing that libreoffice does not start up properly? UI frozen/undrawn.? | 20:43 |
| * cce7 updated to today's trusty beta, and my 3-display orientation settings arn't sticking. Am I missing something? | 20:43 | |
| lolcat | Hello | 21:14 |
| lolcat | thar boots super slow compared to earlier versions | 21:14 |
| lolcat | is lvm slow or is it thar? | 21:14 |
| Beldar | thar? | 21:15 |
| k1l | i dont think its slow, at least compared to 13.10 on my setup | 21:15 |
| k1l | but the shutdown is really fast now | 21:15 |
| Beldar | not slow here either | 21:15 |
| lolcat | shutdown is okay | 21:17 |
| lolcat | but turning on is not nearly instant like before | 21:17 |
| * cce7 wishes I could get it to keep my 3 monitor layout ;) | 21:29 | |
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| rohan | lolcat: did you try to find out what is slowing it down? | 22:08 |
| lolcat | rohan: yes, but not yet | 22:19 |
| lolcat | I will install the bootthing | 22:19 |
| jordan__ | how long do the daily builds remain hosted? I'm specifically interested in http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/precise/20140408/ | 22:19 |
| rohan | cce7: while we are wishing, i wish it didn't break my intel card :-[ | 22:19 |
| rohan | lordievader: did you update all packages? | 22:19 |
| rohan | lordievader: also by error, do you mean it puts stuff in your dmesg? | 22:19 |
| rohan | lolcat: what boot thing? i'd just press esc to hide the splash and see where it's stuck | 22:20 |
| lolcat | rohan: ah | 22:21 |
| * yofel wonders why his xorg.conf goes missing all the time | 22:29 | |
| trism | yofel: somebody was complaining about that a few days ago with fglrx I think, but I can't find the bug now, I do see bug 1293789 for nvidia | 22:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1293789 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 (Ubuntu) "package nvidia-331 renames xorg.conf on non-Optimus systems" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1293789 | 22:34 |
| yofel | trism: thanks, that does look like what's happening here | 22:35 |
| trism | ahh it was bug 1302771 | 22:37 |
| ubottu | bug 1302771 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel Update 3.13.0-22 Deletes Desktop Manager and /etc/X11/xorg.conf file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302771 | 22:37 |
| trism | don't really think that is an accurate description of what's happening though | 22:37 |
| basketball | my bug #1303230 is still undecided | 22:39 |
| ubottu | bug 1303230 in linux (Ubuntu) "hp office jet 100 mobile printer will not show up in printer list and a bunch of errors when i connect printer and run tail -f /var/log/syslog" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1303230 | 22:39 |
| akiva | which kernel will 14.04 be using? I want to know to help me decide whether I should use btrfs or ext4 | 22:47 |
| akiva | I have an ssd, and read performance is the most important thing to me | 22:47 |
| akiva | or is it possible to install with f2fs? | 22:48 |
| Ben64 | !info linux-generic | akiva | 22:52 |
| ubottu | akiva: linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.23.27 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 27 kB | 22:52 |
| micdawg | Hello! | 23:05 |
| micdawg | Pretty sure I had a 14.04 update go south. | 23:06 |
| Beldar | Can you be more detailed? | 23:06 |
| micdawg | kernel panic saying It can't find root disk on bootup, so I'm booting off of the .18 kernel, and google says that's because the initramfs is corrupt, so I need to run update-initramfs | 23:06 |
| micdawg | sec | 23:07 |
| micdawg | sudo update-initramfs -u -k 3.11.0-19-generic update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-19-generic Floating point exception (core dumped) | 23:07 |
| micdawg | and... | 23:07 |
| micdawg | Sorry, command-not-found has crashed! Please file a bug report at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/command-not-found/+filebug Please include the following information with the report: command-not-found version: 0.3 Python version: 3.3.2 final 0 Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu Trusty Tahr (development branch) Release: 14.04 Codename: trusty Exception information: unsupported locale setting Traceback (most re | 23:07 |
| micdawg | if I run a apt-get update, I get.... | 23:08 |
| micdawg | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. | 23:08 |
| micdawg | and if I run that dpkg --configure -a, I get a kernel panic :) | 23:08 |
| micdawg | everything showed successful until it rebooted and got the first kernel panic on the .19 kernel | 23:09 |
| micdawg | this is ubuntu server btw, update from 13.10 to 14.04 | 23:10 |
| holstein | micdawg: looks like you interrupted the update | 23:21 |
| holstein | sudo dpkg --configure -a causes a kernel panic? have you tried it from the recover console? | 23:22 |
| micdawg | I haven't tried it from teh recover console no | 23:23 |
| micdawg | and I actually started it, and left for work :/ | 23:23 |
| micdawg | it was rebooting when I left | 23:24 |
| micdawg | when I got back it was at the kernel panic | 23:24 |
| micdawg | so not sure, but I'll try that from teh recovery console | 23:24 |
| micdawg | thank you! | 23:24 |
| MarcN | Can someone check to see what version of f-spot is in Trusty? | 23:47 |
| rww | !info fspot trusty | 23:47 |
| ubottu | Package fspot does not exist in trusty | 23:47 |
| rww | !info f-spot trusty | 23:47 |
| ubottu | f-spot (source: f-spot): personal photo management application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-5.1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 1947 kB, installed size 9054 kB | 23:47 |
| MarcN | rww, thanks. Same as in Saucy... | 23:49 |
| MarcN | I have 130k photos in f-spot and it has been getting a bit crashy over the years. | 23:50 |
| rww | MarcN: It's in universe, so we probably just go with whatever Debian has. | 23:50 |
| rww | !info f-spot sid | 23:50 |
| ubottu | 'sid' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable | 23:50 |
| rww | !info f-spot unstable | 23:50 |
| ubottu | f-spot (source: f-spot): personal photo management application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-5.1 (unstable), package size 1961 kB, installed size 8298 kB | 23:50 |
| Magiobiwan | Ah. I jumped the gun a little | 23:50 |
| rww | ayup | 23:50 |
| Magiobiwan | So, I just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and it broke my br0 setup. | 23:51 |
| Magiobiwan | Which is defined in /etc/network/interfaces but a "ifup br0" says "Cannot find device "br0" | 23:51 |
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| Magiobiwan | There. Just had to "brctl addbr br0" | 23:59 |
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