[05:37] <MooDoo> morning a
[05:42] <jussi> poor moodoo, got cut off mid sentence... :P
[06:46] <knightwise> Morning everyone
[06:58] <Myrtti> Amazon lightning deals with DIY stuff today
[06:59] <Myrtti> for those tinkering ubuntuites with an itch for pottering around the house with a toolbelt
[07:00] <MartijnVdS> had to order a new disk for my NAS :(
[07:00] <MartijnVdS> SMART was starting to cry
[07:05] <knightwise> Morning MartijnVdS Myrtti
[07:16] <mapps> yo
[07:16] <mapps> tottenham
[07:16] <mapps> FU 5-1
[07:16] <mapps> NEVER IN DOUBT
[07:16] <mapps> :))
[07:17] <mapps> we are tottenham
[07:18] <mapps> i went to the spurs bar after the game in n17
[07:21] <mapps> another cunting
[07:21] <mapps> 200 quidnight
[07:22] <mapps> i had 250 on me got £10 now
[07:22] <mapps> ;/
[07:24] <jussi> mapps: good win, but might want to remember there are children here, so lets try and keep the language a little clean :)
[07:30] <mapps> hi jussi
[07:30] <mapps> :)
[07:31] <mapps> good win? i came back with £10 went with £250
[07:31] <mapps> the spurs game cost me like
[07:31] <jussi> mapps: liverpool got a decent win on the weekend, despite the referee trying his best to ruin the game
[07:31] <mapps> 250 cash + 54 ticket + 96 train:(
[07:31] <jussi> mapps: so? are you a spurs fan? :P
[07:31] <mapps> you shouldve seen jussi
[07:32] <mapps> in n17 2mins from white hart lane
[07:32] <mapps> after the game theyu were loving it
[07:32] <mapps> till like 2am
[07:32] <jussi> hehe
[07:32] <mapps> :D
[07:33] <jussi> damn its cold here.
[07:33] <mapps> sent my friend a picture..bellend said i wasnt there
[07:33] <jussi> and we ran out of wood, so I am paying through the nose for electrical heat
[07:33] <mapps> i was in N17 ..and i was in the pub after
[07:33] <mapps> was good
[07:33] <mapps> oh
[07:33] <mapps> we pay for electric heat here jussi in the normal world;p
[07:34] <mapps> but yea it was really really good
[07:36] <jussi> mapps: :P
[07:36] <mapps> :D
[07:37] <mapps> wel
[07:37] <mapps> i hear finlands like dark most the year
[07:44] <mapps> my memories still really sketchy
[07:44] <mapps> :(
[07:46] <mapps> hate being asked for ancigarette
[07:48] <jussi> yeah, its dark for a lot of the year - especially up north
[07:49] <mapps> got asked loads again last night..i paid 9.10 for a pack!!
[07:49] <mapps> so i dont have any 'spares'
[07:50] <mapps> you watch the game last night?
[07:50] <mapps> WHEN it went 0-1 i was kinda worried LOL
[07:51] <jussi> mapps: I watched a few mins at the start - was a pretty poor goal to give away
[07:52] <mapps> 5-1 ft was good though
[07:52] <mapps> :D
[07:52] <mapps> i was sat east row16
[08:02] <jussi> right, so I need a flow chart app on Kubuntu - any one used something they liked?
[08:03] <popey> isn't there a visio like on kde?
[08:04] <popey> kivio or something?
[08:06]  * jussi goes to search...
[08:07] <jussi> oh, its part of calligra now :D
[08:07] <jussi> !info calligra-flow
[08:07] <jussi> thanks popey
[08:07] <mapps> gah
[08:07] <mapps> im such an addict
[08:08] <mapps> looking at aussie horse racing
[08:08] <jussi> !info calligraflow
[08:08] <mapps> i layed a horse in the last race to lose £250
[08:36] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:36] <bigcalm> !info openssl
[08:36] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: yes, there was an update
[08:37] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: to 1.0.1e has been patched for heartbleed?
[08:37] <bashrc_> morning
[08:38] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[08:44] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: ta :)
[08:50] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:56] <dwatkins> good morning, sir
[09:02] <brobostigon> morning dwatkins
[09:11] <knightwise> morning dwatkins
[09:11] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[09:12] <brobostigon> hey knightwise
[09:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Be Kind To Lawyers Day! :-D
[09:25] <kvarley> I'm getting started with compass and sass on ubuntu and I need to install bundler. Two packages are available - bundler and ruby-bundler ... which do I need ?
[09:27] <kvarley> NVM got info from software centre rather than just using basic apt info
[09:48] <diplo> Heartbeat strikes again :)
[09:53] <MooDoo> hello all
[09:54] <directhex> STOP STEALING MY SSL KEYS :<
[09:54] <MooDoo> er sorry ;)
[09:55] <diplo> heh directhex
[09:56] <directhex> GIVE THEM BACK SRSLY
[09:57] <popey> "lol" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=newNF1UsOcw
[09:57] <popey> "MICHAEL!"
[10:01] <awilkins> "Get some Febreeze or something!"  ... yeah, that really helps with lithium inhalation poisoning
[10:07]  * bigcalm cracks up
[10:08]  * Seeker` gets some polyfilla
[10:14] <foobarry> whats the one line summary of the ssl situation?
[10:15] <foobarry> updates, POC, etc
[10:15] <andrewebdev> apparently there is already a fixed openssl version
[10:15] <andrewebdev> http://heartbleed.com/
[10:15] <jussi> foobarry: biggest screwup in a long time! :D
[10:15] <MooDoo> fix released, I think you just need to install it. and restart any service that uses openssl etc
[10:16] <andrewebdev> https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140407.txt
[10:16] <foobarry> thx
[10:16] <foobarry> aka the NSA backdoor@?
[10:17] <MooDoo> I don't think it's that bad lol
[10:17] <foobarry> ". Without using any privileged information or credentials we were able steal from ourselves the secret keys used for our X.509 certificates, user names and passwords, instant messages, emails and business critical documents and communication."
[10:18] <bigcalm> MooDoo: and generate new CSRs to get new certificates
[10:18] <foobarry> "This allows attackers to eavesdrop communications, steal data directly from the services and users and to impersonate services and users."
[10:18] <MooDoo> bigcalm: that as well.
[10:22]  * bigcalm grumbles
[10:22] <bigcalm> 188 packages can be updated.
[10:22] <bigcalm> 116 updates are security updates.
[10:23] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:25] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[10:26] <davmor2> hey MooDoo how's life?
[10:32]  * bigcalm hugs Myrtti 
[10:33]  * MooDoo hugs bigcalm huggin Myrtti 
[10:40] <Myrtti> I seem to be acting as a cat bed again
[10:46]  * czajkowski pokes popey 
[10:46] <czajkowski> ello :) is there a sign up to release party in london
[10:47] <MooDoo> not on this page czajkowski http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/  has an event page been created yet?
[10:48] <MooDoo> the only thing on their is the RAT for the uk
[10:51] <popey> I'll make one later
[10:52] <czajkowski> popey: excellent
[10:52] <czajkowski> it all goes into the calendar so I know where to go
[10:52] <czajkowski> popey++
[10:54] <popey> \o/ parcel from ebay arrived
[10:54] <popey> i love ebay parcels because I forget i bought them
[11:00] <jussi> popey: :D
[11:00] <jussi> popey: what was the surprise today, if we may know?
[11:00] <popey> batteries for my quadcopter
[11:01] <jussi> ahh, now you can have some fun! :D
[11:01] <popey> ya, well, more than 10 mins of fun
[11:01] <popey> got 5 of them, so maybe an hour of flying
[11:01] <popey> well, an hour of crashing ☻
[11:01] <jussi> nice. now oyu can spy on the neighbours
[11:01] <popey> no camera
[11:01] <popey> (yet)
[11:01] <jussi> shouldnt be too hard to fix... :P
[11:01] <jussi> go buy a gopro :D
[11:02] <popey> its way too small for that
[11:02] <popey> its *tiny*
[11:02] <MooDoo> jussi: i did the other day :D
[11:02] <jussi> MooDoo: ! you came back! :D
[11:02] <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/HUBSAN-X4-H107-Quadcopter-LEDs/dp/B009M1PO7W
[11:02] <popey> thats the one i have
[11:02] <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hubsan-Quadcopter-Camera-Radio-Controller/dp/B00EDNI8YK has a camera
[11:02] <MooDoo> popey: I'm going with a dji phantom :)
[11:02] <directhex> yawn
[11:03] <directhex> i need more sleep
[11:03] <jussi> "Permits super stable flight" - that popey hasnt mastered yet... :P
[11:03] <popey> oh its stable
[11:03] <popey> i'm just scared of it flying off into neighbours garden so not flown it too high yet
[11:03] <popey> want to take it to the park at the weekend
[11:03] <jussi> sigh... all the pringles are gone :/
[11:12] <MooDoo> jussi: shop it that way ------>
[11:14] <jussi> MooDoo: sssh
[11:15] <MooDoo> :)
[11:22] <Laney> super secure shell
[11:40] <awilkins> Super Secure Shell is a product of the NSA! From the leading name in secure communications, for the ultimate in trust! (tm)
[11:44] <dvrr> MooDoo: Hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:44] <jussi> awilkins: nice..... :P
[11:47] <MooDoo> yay openssh rocks
[11:47] <foobarry> It has a fatal design flaw in the body, in that it has holes in the bottom. This means that if you land (or crash !) the H4 on anything remotely damp (like grass) it shorts out the camera PCB, the CPU being upside down and visible through one of the holes. This means that the wonderful video of you erratically careering about the sky is now lost.
[11:47] <awilkins> So bored I'm contemplating living riskily and upgrading my working desktop to Trusty
[11:48] <MooDoo> awilkins: it's realased in a couple of weeks, don't think it's that risky.
[11:48] <awilkins> I upgraded my laptop
[11:48] <Myrtti> oof
[11:48] <Myrtti> well
[11:48] <awilkins> But that's just a couch browser
[11:48] <foobarry> Also flight times of 8 minutes plus are advertised but I have never been able to get more than 4 minutes and that is with the LED lights turned off.
[11:49] <foobarry> :(
[11:49] <foobarry> shame these things neer quite live up to expectation
[11:57] <foobarry> popey: can u take a photo of the QCopter in your hand to show scale pls?
[11:59] <jussi> foobarry: have you met popey before?  he has very big hands... :D
[11:59] <awilkins> You know what they say about men with big hands.
[11:59] <awilkins> Big ....
[11:59] <popey> hah
[11:59] <awilkins> .... gloves.
[11:59] <popey> sure
[12:00] <popey> foobarry: those reviews don't match my experience
[12:00] <popey> but i dont have the camera one
[12:00] <foobarry> the non camera one has "105cm  x 105cm" , i think they mean 105mm
[12:02] <popey> foobarry: http://imgur.com/JBP1sOL
[12:03] <foobarry> thank you. as expected, like the revell mini quad, 105cm is a typo
[12:03] <popey> np
[12:03] <popey> its jolly good fun
[12:03] <popey> pretty rapid too, from ground to "omg that's high!" in no time
[12:04] <popey> then very soon to "shit shit shit, which way is it facing"
[12:04] <popey> note grass stains on the white blades ☻
[12:04] <foobarry> so when they say in reviews "i lost my first one..."
[12:05] <popey> quite possible
[12:05] <popey> i read the docs carefully
[12:06] <popey> if you push the throttle up to full tilt it will just go straight up
[12:06] <popey> and if the wind takes it, it's off..
[12:06] <popey> you have to be a bit gentle
[12:07] <foobarry> can your kid fly it?
[12:10] <popey> not let them try
[12:10] <popey> its hard enough for me!
[12:35] <knightwise> hmm..
[12:35] <knightwise> I'm thinking : To 14.04 or not to 14.04
[12:37] <MattJ> I 14.04'd a couple of weeks back
[12:37] <MattJ> Has been just fine
[12:40] <MooDoo> yeah seems fine for me as well
[12:41] <popey> \o/ 14.04
[12:48] <SuperMatt> looking forward to next thursday \o/
[12:48] <SuperMatt> I just hope the new version of ssl will be in the final images
[12:48] <SuperMatt> HINT HINT
[12:49] <knightwise> I'm not sure if i'm gonna put it on my Lenovo twst
[12:50] <SuperMatt> What are you running on there now?
[12:55] <knightwise> Ill be using that laptop for my freelance gig
[12:55] <knightwise> and it has to be rocksteady
[12:57] <popey> foobarry: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hubsan-X4-H107-Crash-kit-USB-Charger-Body-Shell-Battery-4-Propellers-4-Motors-/261419622923
[12:57] <popey> i love the idea of a little plastic box with a crash kit in it ☻
[13:07] <dwatkins> bring us the crash cart, nurse!
[13:13] <MooDoo> dwatkins: popey stars in "extreame nursing" hehe
[13:15] <knightwise> seems to run ok on the dell XPS 13
[13:16] <jussi> "popey with a crash cart - on a trampoline!" :D
[13:18] <bigcalm> That's a rather odd version of Cluedo
[13:19] <jussi> hehe
[13:20] <SuperMatt> is 12.04 affected by heartbleed?
[13:21] <bigcalm> Yes
[13:21] <popey> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[13:22] <shauno> yay - for once I'm not in trouble for still being on 10.04
[13:22] <bigcalm> o.O
[13:22] <SuperMatt> huh, I've just run an update and upgrade and before I pressed anything I can't see libssl in the packages
[13:22] <bigcalm> openssl
[13:23] <SuperMatt> or openssl
[13:23] <SuperMatt> ah, they were automatically upgraded
[13:27] <bigcalm> Anybody got a good RFC template?
[13:27] <SuperMatt> "Please do the needful"
[13:28] <SuperMatt> that's all you'll ever need
[13:37] <andy_turfer> Hello.
[13:42] <popey> Turns out there's a lot of dust inside a 2009 iMac that lives in a kitchen and has never been taken apart
[13:42] <directhex> and grease, i expect
[13:43] <Seeker`> popey: there was a serious amount of dust inside my media backend that hasn't been opened in 2 years, which was sitting in the corner of the living room
[13:44] <popey> not too much, i took the imac outside and blew it and it all flew away
[13:44] <popey> so not too sticky inside
[13:44] <SuperMatt> question: zsh instead of bash as default in future ubuntus?
[13:46]  * bigcalm uses the leaf blower on computers that need dust removal
[13:47] <SuperMatt> that's a good idea
[14:03] <bigcalm> SuperMatt: I'm guessing that you have the day off or something?
[14:03] <SuperMatt> nope
[14:03] <SuperMatt> I was on lunch for a bit
[14:03] <SuperMatt> not now though
[14:03] <bigcalm> Just that you're here :P
[14:03] <SuperMatt> I just left the window open
[14:03] <bigcalm> Tsk!
[14:05] <SuperMatt> I'm also not working the phones today, so I have a little more freedom
[14:09] <MooDoo> yay
[14:09] <MooDoo> are you having fun
[14:10] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: have you put your flag up?
[14:13] <SuperMatt> MooDoo: I haven't passed my probation yet
[14:13] <SuperMatt> 21st is when it's likely to go up
[14:15] <bigcalm> Flag of the flying spaghetti monster?
[14:16] <SuperMatt> I'm hoping for a batman flag
[14:19] <dwatkins> this is my flag: http://www.pross-it.de/brickosaic/images/space_logo.jpg
[14:20] <SuperMatt> is that the one from lego?
[14:20] <dwatkins> yeah SuperMatt
[14:20] <dwatkins> I'll just leave this here, too... http://www.redbubble.com/people/samuriferret/works/11706330-1980-something-falcon-distressed
[14:20] <SuperMatt> woo! 80s pop culture!
[14:20] <SuperMatt> sneaky and geeky
[14:20] <SuperMatt> nice
[14:20] <SuperMatt> I kinda want that
[14:20] <dwatkins> yeah, bought one for myself and one for my brother.
[14:21] <dwatkins> he might be 43, but he still plays with Lego.
[14:24] <popey> The only annoyance after taking the iMac all apart, replacing the HDD and putting it back together is the fans are at full tilt
[14:24] <dwatkins> did you reset the PRAM, popey?
[14:24] <popey> no
[14:24] <dwatkins> might be worth a go.
[14:27] <popey> ta
[14:28] <dwatkins> also, try resetting the SMC: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964?viewlocale=en_US
[14:31] <popey> ok, ta
[14:35] <popey> dwatkins: how do you reset PRAM with a bluetooth keyboard?
[14:42] <popey> dwatkins: not an apple one
[14:42] <popey> nvm, I'll have a play later
[14:52] <dwatkins> hmm, there's probably a way you can re-map the relevant keys
[14:59] <dwatkins> I have a friend who has decided to switch to Windows 7 on their little office server because "installing Linux takes too long" *sigh*
[15:30]  * bashrc facepalm
[15:38] <DJones> \o/ New car ordered
[15:45] <bigcalm> DJones: what did you go for?
[15:49] <DJones> bigcalm: Vauxhall Insignia estate in the end
[15:49] <bigcalm> Fair enough
[15:50] <DJones> bigcalm: I didn't find the pedal position too comfortable on the 407, brake pedal was out of position for what I expected
[15:51] <DJones> Plus the boot on the estate was a bit too small for putting a dog cage in
[15:51] <bigcalm> Yeah, the boot is an odd shape
[15:53] <DJones> Yeah, even the insignia has a bit of an odd shaped boot, but thats something we can get round with a sloped side cage
[17:03] <popey> Hmm, these new quad-copter batteries charge like the original one, but the LED on the charging USB stick never goes out at the end, it just flickers like a bad connection ⍨
[17:03] <popey> the original one, the lights go out
[17:03] <popey> new ones are 250mAh vis the original 240mAh.. both 3.7v
[17:03] <popey> they are very cheap, so don't expect them to last forever
[17:46] <daftykins> popey: they might be early cylons
[17:46] <daftykins> </Battlestar Galactica>
[17:47] <popey> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/08/google_kills_virus_app_after_decompilation_proves_its_a_fake/
[17:47] <popey> time to make one for ubuntu touch and rake it in
[17:54] <neuro> wow
[17:54] <neuro> kinda defeats the point of a curated app store
[17:55] <neuro> also, evenin all
[17:57] <daftykins> i bet its' size gave it away :>
[17:57] <popey> well, ours isn't curated
[17:57] <popey> so I suspect you could do the same until someone reports it
[17:57] <neuro> CROWDSOURCING!
[17:57] <popey> although you wont actually be able to charge for it yet ☻
[18:26] <twager> My computer has started to freeze no input from mouse/kboard or vid,this happens after a few minutes yet a live cd will run all day,any ideas what I should be looking for memtest shows nothing amiss
[18:29] <zleap> hello
[18:29] <daftykins> hi
[18:30] <zleap> how is it going
[18:30] <daftykins> none too shabby and yourself?
[18:30] <zleap> i am good
[18:31] <zleap> i think i left my keyboard at the school i help at
[18:31] <zleap> its a small one so ideal for the pi and I have a pi jam on Saturday
[18:33] <daftykins> doh!
[18:33] <zleap> yeah
[18:33] <daftykins> what kind of help do you give? :)
[18:33] <daftykins> twager: sorry btw, i see you there but i have no suggestions
[18:33] <zleap> we are running an after school coding, hacking, hardware club
[18:34] <daftykins> neat, secondary level?
[18:34] <zleap> primary or based in primary but cater for ks2 and ks3
[18:34] <zleap> we have pi,s brick pi and lego mindstorms
[18:34] <daftykins> that's one lucky school
[18:35] <zleap> yeah
[18:35] <zleap> well we managed to get some mindstorms from other schools
[18:35] <zleap> so have loads, as they were not using it
[18:35] <zleap> so hopefully what we are doing will inspire them to use it
[18:36] <zleap> so being on a monday we are back the week after easter monday,  then the week after is another bank holiday and then we are back to every week after that with any luck,
[18:36] <zleap> i am sure the people doing the group would come and hack this stuff all day if they could
[18:38] <daftykins> :)
[18:38] <daftykins> perhaps with so many spares it'd be tempting to arrange loan-kits
[18:38] <daftykins> although also you probably can't trust youngsters with such a thing, be quite the headache
[18:38] <zleap> i think we could,
[18:39] <zleap> we have loads of netbooks too, which some have been upgraded to linux,  we also dual booted 2 computers to Ubuntu
[18:40] <daftykins> :o
[18:40] <zleap> we are moving to another computer room so may end up dual booting those too :) so lots of potential for softtware development,
[18:41] <zleap> so by thje time we go back I aim to have a few 32 / 64 bit dvds made up
[18:42] <daftykins> \o/
[18:42] <daftykins> you could even be bold and go straight for 14.04
[18:42] <zleap> that is what i mean
[18:42] <zleap> by the time we go back after easter 14.04 will be out
[18:42] <zleap> next thursday
[18:43] <daftykins> \o/
[18:43] <zleap> so we are back the moday after easter monday so a few weeks
[18:43] <zleap> labels are ready
[18:43] <zleap> well both ubuntu and xubuntu lables
[18:43] <daftykins> yay some auto emailing fixed on some RAID controllers, silly ISP changing their mail server IP
[18:43] <zleap> at the pi jam i am hoping to dual boot a netbook with xubuntu
[18:44] <daftykins> what a fitting time given XP's dead as of today
[18:44] <daftykins> well, technically 8th May
[18:44] <zleap> yeah
[18:44] <zleap> today
[18:45] <zleap> 8th may
[18:45] <daftykins> well yes but 8th May would be when the first patch tuesday it misses is
[18:45] <zleap> ah
[18:45] <daftykins> so exploits in other products will directly affect it as no patches will be there
[18:46] <zleap> i am looking at setting up a coder dojo in torbay
[18:46] <daftykins> that sounds like a south-west place i keep hearing mentioned on BBC Spotlight :>
[18:46] <daftykins> (we get them after our local news)
[18:46] <zleap> yeah
[18:46] <zleap> where are you then
[18:46]  * zleap is in Paignton
[18:46] <daftykins> Guernsey
[18:46] <zleap> ah
[18:47] <zleap> so how are things over there Linux user wise
[18:47] <daftykins> i'm sure there are some but i know of no LUG
[18:47] <zleap> ok
[18:48] <zleap> well for us the pi jam is the new lug meet
[18:48] <daftykins> there's a little kind of nerd night thing i've heard about on the first Monday of each month, but the turnout looks to be about 8 people X|
[18:48] <zleap> that is still good
[18:49] <daftykins> ooh you're just along from that Dawlish railway that just got repaired
[18:49] <zleap> yeah
[18:49] <zleap> so we are no longer cut off
[18:49] <daftykins> yay :D
[18:49] <zleap> also means 3 more people can come to the pi jam who would normally miss it due to trans being out
[18:50] <daftykins> used to go on holidays to Fowey as a kid
[18:50] <zleap> i have heard of Fowey thats in cornwall right
[18:50] <daftykins> yep
[18:50] <zleap> i think the torbay members of the devon and cornwall lug are the most active
[18:50] <zleap> and exeter
[18:51] <zleap> i want to get more coders in Torbay,  so we can have a peer support group and introduce more kids to programming
[18:51] <zleap> the minecraft group was a programming group origianally
[18:53] <daftykins> minecraft? as in they all play together? :)
[18:54] <zleap> yeah
[18:54] <daftykins> brb gotta restart this VMs host
[18:54] <zleap> ok
[18:59] <zleap> wb
[18:59]  * zleap is downloading 13.10 manual
[18:59] <daftykins> ty ^_^
[19:00] <zleap> i take it there will be one for 14.04 too
[19:00] <daftykins> the VMs may be Linux, but the host is not, heh
[19:00] <zleap> which as that is long term support would be good to get printed version from lulu.com
[19:00] <daftykins> i'd imagine it gets updated and released around the time yeah
[19:00] <zleap> yeah
[19:01] <popey> usually shortly after release iirc
[19:02] <zleap> yeah i guess its easier now they can just add new bits to the manual
[19:02] <zleap> popey, i will keep an eye out for it
[19:03] <daftykins> popey: drama on Sunday - https://www.dropbox.com/s/5c0r07jppoi5crn/IMG_20140406_195550.jpg
[19:04] <zleap> daftykins, is there a right click share context entry for xubuntu to share dropbox content
[19:04] <zleap> i can't find it
[19:04] <daftykins> not sure i'm afraid, not used dropbox on ubuntu
[19:04] <zleap> ok
[19:04] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/h0foo0oj6w9iupy/IMG_20140406_200134.jpg
[19:04] <daftykins> ^ shortly after
[19:05] <popey> Oh noes!
[19:05] <daftykins> i know - i was starting to think up a rescue plan :S
[19:05] <daftykins> thankfully she slid herself down on her tummy :D
[19:05] <zleap> how to remove a cat from a tree
[19:06] <daftykins> certainly lived up to her name 'Mischief' that day
[19:06] <zleap> yeah
[19:06] <zleap> maybe calling a cat mischief is a bad omen
[19:06] <daftykins> :D i kinda inherited her so thankfully don't hold the blame for that one
[19:06] <zleap> ah
[19:36] <mapps> ugh full up
[19:36] <mapps> so how to fix my pesky apache
[19:41] <daftykins> remove that thing you put on!
[19:41] <daftykins> http://www.saveie6.com/
[19:41] <daftykins> this is hilarious
[19:41] <daftykins> zleap: good chatting, good luck with the plans :)
[19:41] <daftykins> i'm heading for a restaurant meal \o/
[19:42] <zleap> thanls
[19:42] <zleap> sorry i was building a 555 timer circuit
[19:42] <daftykins> np :>
[20:09] <mapps> wow this ch4 show 26k in rent arrears sheesh
[20:09] <mapps> imagine that high court officers turning up and giving uou 2 hours to leave
[21:12] <mapps> gah daftykins dont know how tried with apt-get remove zentyal but still bits lurking around
[21:19] <zleap> daftykins, this is what i was building earlier http://zleap.net/555-timer-revisited/
[21:19] <zleap> just installed cheese to take that photoi and it installs brassero cd burner and a stack of other stuff along with it
[21:23] <daftykins> zleap: neat :) also that's an odd dependancy 0o
[21:23] <daftykins> mapps: "dpkg -l | grep zentyal" ?
[21:23] <zleap> daftykins, i thought that
[22:12] <directhex> i live!
[22:13] <shauno> pics or it didn't happen?
[22:19] <brobostigon> is it possible, to reset a package back to maintained version, when as default it doesnt change any user adaptions, and package upgrade cause execution failiure of said package?
[22:22] <daftykins> i think APT pinning lets you stick with a specific older version?
[22:22] <daftykins> if i'm following you right
[22:23] <diddledan> ho boy: http://heartbleed.com/
[22:23] <shauno> you can use confask if you want the maintainer's config files back.  eg, sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask" install --reinstall yourpackage
[22:24] <shauno> that gets you the "your conf file isn't the same as the maintainer's conf file, would you like to a) b) c)" prompt
[22:26] <shauno> (not sure I've parsed the question correctly either  heh)
[22:28] <daftykins> diddledan: yeah suddenly getting loads of question askers in #ubuntu
[22:28] <diddledan> afaik ubuntu released a patch yesterday or earlier today
[22:29] <diddledan> I recall seeing an announcement anywho
[22:29] <diddledan> annoying that most of my work's servers are gentoo so I'm going to have to spend two days compiling
[22:30] <shauno> curious, does "apt-get changelog libssl1.0.0"  give you anything useful? (404's on debian)
[22:30] <diddledan> does openssh use openssl?
[22:30] <diddledan> just wondering how vulnerable work is
[22:31] <shauno> eh, update all the things anyway  :p
[22:31] <diddledan> I still haven't updated all the things to "maintainable" yet
[22:32] <diddledan> some of our servers are still in a state that I'm the only one who has the balls to update
[22:32] <diddledan> read - 4 years of no patches leading to portage/emerge not working. at all.
[22:32] <shauno> always a fine line between courage and stupidity :)
[22:32] <diddledan> shauno: this is me
[22:33] <shauno> gentoo in production is kinda scary though
[22:33] <diddledan> shauno: I think it goes unsaid that I'm stupid
[22:34] <diddledan> still. my stupidity has lead to our physical servers being upgraded to ubuntu. that's a win, right?
[22:48] <daftykins> lol
[22:48] <daftykins> does it go something like this...
[22:48] <daftykins> 1) diddledan upgrades 2) server is broken 3) diddledan to boss: "we need new servers"
[22:48] <diddledan> bingo
[22:48] <daftykins> XD
[22:48] <diddledan> lol
[22:49] <diddledan> oh how well everyone knows me :-p
[22:51] <daftykins> 8)
[22:52] <daftykins> it'd almost be worth it, the above strategy, if you knew how dire things were
[22:53] <diddledan> it was actually more a case that to upgrade required a reboot, but crititcal services meant reboot was out of the question for the time being, so when the reboot is able to be scheduled it might as well be down slightly longer and fix a load of issues in one go
[22:54] <diddledan> I got the tech team to coordinate a rolling wholesale upgrade with lots of shunting VMs about
[22:54] <shauno> okay, as much sense as recursion makes.  not at midnight it doesn't.  my head is leaking.
[22:54] <diddledan> it took two trips to the datacentre to actually install the ubuntu, (we don't have lights-out/ipmi or such) but now it's working nicely and we havne't had to worry since
[22:55] <diddledan> shauno: recurse this!
[23:05] <shauno> this is turning into more dirty hacks than I can keep track of.  it seems I simply can't count
[23:05] <daftykins> :D
[23:05] <daftykins> diddledan: sounds like good progress \o/
[23:08] <daftykins> alrighty g'night sirs o/
[23:09] <diddledan> nn
[23:13] <shauno> I should get a 0 tattooed on my left thumb :(
[23:16] <diddledan> o_O
[23:20] <diddledan> http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/from-game-boy-to-skyscraper-playing-the-worlds-largest-game-of-tetris/
[23:22] <shauno> trying to figure out how to even explain this to myself.  I have a .. fence.  16 panels. so 17 fenceposts.
[23:23] <shauno> given an absolute position, I need to figure out which post is closest
[23:24] <shauno> which seems stupidly easy, but I can't seem to get it right.  I figured totallength/16 to give the length of a panel, and then for a given position, divide it by that and round it
[23:25] <shauno> either I'm completely missing something, or casting things to ints is a bad way to round them
[23:25] <diddledan> casting to int will truncate, no?
[23:26] <shauno> has any of this given you the impression I know the answer to that?  ;)