[00:00] <pleasehelpme> ubuntu make live cd of their distribution and i tought that maybe they would theach me how to do it with my distribution  :)
[00:00] <exogen> hello, what can i do to start deja-dup via ssh? I use actually "ssh -X" but "deja-dup --backup" don't work and there display that the backup HD is not found.
[00:01] <fun69> hey whats the easiest way to install firefox on ubuntu?
[00:01] <fun69> :D
[00:01] <bekks> fun69: sudo apt-get install firefox
[00:02] <daftykins> pleasehelpme: no, unfortunately there aren't enough hours in the day to help someone get *another* distro off the ground
[00:02] <daftykins> the purpose of this channel is to support ubuntu and ubuntu alone
[00:02] <fun69> cheers :D
[00:03] <fun69> simple yet :)
[00:03] <pleasehelpme> thanks for the awnser :(
[00:05] <edips> jhsimpson:  Thank you very much sir! You helped me alot I changed many linux distros because of fan loud, it was big problem. but now there is not fan problem. :)
[00:09] <Abydon> also fyi: http://heartbleed.com/
[00:10] <fowlduck> Abydon: yup, the world got 0-day'd
[00:10] <Abydon> Just in case anyone missed it :P
[00:22] <Nick____> is there a way to totally reinstall all the frontend stuff for ubuntu (unity, compiz, window manager, maybe video drivers, etc)
[00:23] <fun69> hey folks
[00:23] <kostkon> Nick____, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall  if you want to redownload everything do a sudo apt-get clean  first
[00:24] <fun69> when I access remote desktop from win to win I get full screen resolution, also with some OSX servers who got preconfigures client. now I connect via nx protocol and full screen yet to come
[00:24] <fun69> :)
[00:25] <kostkon> Nick____, that's only for the desktop, not the drivers
[00:25] <fun69> maybe someone here uses no machine to connect from windows to ubuntu?
[00:25] <Nick____> kostkon is there something that goes a bit deeper than that...that only seems to reinstall a few packages (i think -desktop are placeholder packages)
[00:25] <kostkon> Nick____, it's a metapackage. you can reset unity/compiz if you want
[00:26] <Nick____> kostkon how do you do that?
[00:26] <brcolow> When I execute "sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local start" in the terminal, my start-up script executes. However, it does not execute upon startup (i.e. when I reboot)
[00:26] <kostkon> Nick____, what version of ubuntu?
[00:26] <Nick____> kostkon 13.10
[00:27] <kostkon> Nick____, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[00:27] <Nick____> kostkon links dead?
[00:27] <Nick____> oh there it goes
[00:30] <Nick____> kostkon yeah it's hosed...I tried method #2 (and now #1) and both give me lots of errors esp that the 'opengl' plugin wont run.... maybe the next step is to reinstall from usb (without overwrite)?
[00:31] <Nick____> 'opengl' plugin is missing i think it said
[00:31] <Nick____> 'not loaded'...here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1166765
[00:32] <kostkon> Nick____, try again, it might needs a logout or if can't do that a reboot
[00:32] <atrius`> anyone know if ubuntu has updated the openssl package to deal with the heartbeat bug?
[00:32] <us`0gb> I read that the Ubuntu installation media installs software from both the main and restricted repositories. Is there a way to tell the installer not to install anything from the restricted repository and to use only main?
[00:33] <whowhatwitit> Anyone know a good graphing calculator package?
[00:33] <whowhatwitit> the vanilla one is rubbish
[00:34] <kostkon> need* Nick____, you can reinstall it and use the same partition(s). if you haven't create a separate partition for home then everything will get overwritten
[00:35] <Nick____> kostkon same thing...i get lots of info, but it gets stuck and complains about failed plugins 'error:plugin init failed: unityshell' among other
[00:35] <kostkon> Nick____, i mean your personal data. did you reboot? would be easy for you to do so
[00:35] <Nick____> kostkon yes that's after reboot
[00:36] <Nick____> kostkon well i dont want to format any drives just overwrite system files
[00:36] <kostkon> Nick____, ok. not sure what to suggest now. maybe disable or enable the nvidia driver https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Installation_without_X_.2BAC8_from_the_console
[00:37] <Nick____> kostkon it's onboard video...i915...if i could reinstall that, I guess that would be something to try
[00:38] <loq> can someone help me? ibkmod: ERROR../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmo_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='fglrx' ERROR: could not insert 'fglrx': Function not implemented
[00:38] <fun69> ::P
[00:39] <brcolow> What log can I check to make sure /etc/rc.local was executed on startup?
[00:41] <kostkon> Nick____, when did this problem start
[00:42] <dani> ola
[00:43] <Nick____> kostkon i had problems with the computer starting,and I suspect an old video card.  So I just tried to use the onboard video for now, but ubuntu gives me nothing...blank desktop with a message that says 'report problem'
[00:44] <Nick____> kostkon here's the issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[00:44] <brcolow> What log can I check to make sure /etc/rc.local was executed on startup?
[00:44] <kostkon> Nick____, right. it makes sense now. you could try running the unity test   /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p   see if the card can run unity
[00:44] <Nick____> but tried everything in there and no joy
[00:45] <Nick____> kostkon 'glx is not available on the system'
[00:45] <Nick____> I did have to set DISPLAY=:0 to make that test work though
[00:45] <Nick____> doing this all from tty
[00:46] <lattera> does ubuntu support dualbooting with an encrypted osx volume on a macbook pro?
[00:46] <kostkon> Nick____, sudo apt-get install mesa-utils  then run  glxinfo | grep -i renderer   to make sure
[00:47] <Nick____> kostkon 'error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig'
[00:47] <kostkon> Nick____, you could try forcing ubuntu to use the llvmpipe software rendering mode  see here http://askubuntu.com/questions/197771/how-do-i-enable-low-graphics-mode-llvmpipe-rendering-in-unity
[00:47] <daftykins> kostkon / Nick____ may i suggest a pastebinit of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to identify the current driver in use?
[00:48] <daftykins> i can see kostkon is more experienced though so feel free to dismiss :)
[00:48] <Nick____> daftykins i can't i dont have paste ability..itsall console...anything i can grep
[00:48] <zubuntu> hi
[00:48] <kostkon> !pastebinit
[00:48] <daftykins> Nick____: the above is a fine CLI utility
[00:49] <daftykins> you can install it then run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:49] <daftykins> zubuntu: hello again (:
[00:49] <Simotek-Work> can you run pastebinit /dev/urandom ?
[00:49] <fun69> hey folks I run ubuntu 13.10 Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780 video yet to get full screen
[00:49] <fun69> whats u advice? :D
[00:49] <zubuntu> daftykins :)
[00:50] <Nick____> kostkon daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/7219525
[00:51] <at78rpm> I just got an email saying ubuntu one is on the way out and that I have to download all my content before July.  Is this real or is this spam?
[00:51] <Nick____> kostkon i see: (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[00:51] <buffalo_> bekks: my server works now thaks to you, you made my day:)
[00:51] <bekks> buffalo_: you're welcome :)
[00:51] <kostkon> Nick____, where is that coming from
[00:51] <brcolow> What log can I check to make sure /etc/rc.local was executed on startup?
[00:51] <Nick____> kostkon xorg.0.log
[00:52] <ottman> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/ubuntu-one-falls-from-the-clouds/
[00:52] <Nick____> the pastbin above
[00:52] <at78rpm> TY ottman
[00:53] <kostkon> Nick____, oh i know why. you need to remove the nvidia driver
[00:53] <Nick____> kostkon nvidia?  a stock one
[00:53] <kostkon> Nick____, is the previous card you were using an nvidia one
[00:54] <Nick____> kostkon no ati...and i purged and removed fglrx and the propritory one i tried to get working
[00:54] <kostkon> Nick____, hmm
[00:55] <daftykins> Nick____: was it you who said this was an AMD hybrid graphics laptop?
[00:55] <Nick____> kostkon there's a nouvau one installed..i could remove that...it wants to remove xserver-xorg-video-all though
[00:55] <Nick____> daftykins no this is a desktop
[00:55] <daftykins> ah ok
[00:55] <daftykins> nah nouveau coming off won't help
[00:55] <kostkon> Nick____, no that;s fine. i thought the card was an nvidia
[00:56] <daftykins> kostkon: i find it odd that the kernel command line reads 'ro' after root, perhaps all the unity reset commands have done nothing because the disk is ro?
[00:56] <daftykins> Nick____: can you run "mount | pastebinit" please
[00:56] <kostkon> daftykins, interesting
[00:56] <Nick____> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/7219539
[00:57] <kostkon> Nick____, are you using any extra ppas like xorg edgers etc.?
[00:57] <daftykins> nope looks fine there
[00:57] <Nick____> kostkon yes, but nothing video related, but would be happy to remove them all
[00:58] <Nick____> kostkon if i clear out sources.list.d and then do an apt-get update would that set me with the default repos?
[00:59] <daftykins> Nick____: how come you have acpi=off? also, is there an /etc/X11/xorg.conf present?
[00:59] <kostkon> Nick____, if the ppas are safe then no need to do that
[00:59] <Nick____> daftykins that was from an old problem, but i think i tried it without that, but id gladly try rebotting with it deleted
[00:59] <daftykins> is kernel 3.13 even in any ubuntu 0o
[01:00] <Nick____> daftykins there is no etc/x11/xorg.conf
[01:00] <daftykins> Nick____: just a curiosity, i've no idea if it would affect glx, i suspect not
[01:00] <daftykins> ok that's good too
[01:00] <Nick____> a failsafe
[01:01] <daftykins> yeah that's standard
[01:01] <kostkon> Nick____, does the laptop have by any chance hybrid graphics on it?
[01:02] <Nick____> kostkon its a desktop
[01:02] <Nick____> it has a built in onboad chipset im trying to use
[01:02] <Nick____> intel-based
[01:02] <kostkon> Nick____, did you try to enable llvmpipe?
[01:03] <daftykins> Nick____: the error on line 82 refers to a potential mismatch between the X server version and the driver modules installed - if you do have X-edgers it could be worth removing that and being sure xserver and the intel video driver are versions that are meant to play together
[01:03] <Nick____> kostkon oh no...ill do that now one sec
[01:03] <Aquafresh> Hey all. I just shut down my computer and turned it back on. The desktop loads but unity doesn't. I tried to install compiz-settings-manager as a solution I found on the forums. But then I get stuff about unmet dependencies. Can someone help me?
[01:03] <kostkon> Nick____, before doing that, check comments #8 and #9 here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/301998
[01:03] <Nick____> daftykins yes i agree ...but i dont have xedgers...how can i just reset both..id be happy to purge and reinsall that
[01:03] <kostkon> Nick____, and try doing the same as suggested by the commenter of #9
[01:04] <daftykins> Aquafresh: haha nice nick - can you log in at a TTY or start a terminal with ctrl+alt+t ?
[01:05] <Aquafresh> yes
[01:05] <Aquafresh> I just did
[01:05] <daftykins> Aquafresh: have you already tried "sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz/" ?
[01:05] <Aquafresh> thanks btw lol
[01:05] <Nick____> kostkon http://paste.ubuntu.com/7219567
[01:05] <Aquafresh> no
[01:05] <Aquafresh> let me try
[01:05] <daftykins> Aquafresh: after that, also run "setsid unity"
[01:05] <Nick____> there are some dependency issues
[01:06] <Aquafresh> daftykins: I get an error in spawning some line
[01:06] <Aquafresh> nothing happens after it explains usage
[01:06] <kostkon> Nick____, that's what you got after doing sudo apt-get remove libgl1-mesa-dri?
[01:06] <Nick____> kostkon yes
[01:06] <Nick____> well purge but yes
[01:07] <daftykins> Aquafresh: can you confirm which ubuntu version this is? "cat /etc/issue"
[01:07] <Aquafresh> daftykins: ubuntu 13.10
[01:08] <daftykins> Aquafresh: ah, try the first again but without sudo, so "dconf reset -f /org/compiz/"
[01:08] <daftykins> it should complete without output
[01:08] <daftykins> Aquafresh: then "setsid unity" afterwards as before
[01:09] <Aquafresh> daftykins: it output correct usage and says there was a spawnning error
[01:09] <Aquafresh> i can't even run sudo apt-get upgrade without an error
[01:09] <kostkon> Nick____, ok leave it as it is. check again for any left over ati related packages and remove them
[01:09] <daftykins> Aquafresh: what does that say? it'd be sudo apt-get update first though of course
[01:10] <Aquafresh> daftykins: that there are dependsencies that are unmet
[01:10] <daftykins> oh that'll just be from your ccsm attempt
[01:10] <Aquafresh> daftykins: i was installing something before I reset. The install had failed and software center dissapeared from my computer
[01:10] <Nick____> kostkon no fglrx around...no fglrx module dpkg shows nothing
[01:10] <daftykins> Aquafresh: oh right :S any ideas what it was?
[01:11] <Aquafresh> crossover
[01:11] <daftykins> hmm not familiar with that
[01:11] <daftykins> !info crossover
[01:11] <Aquafresh> daftykins: it's a commercial version of wine
[01:11] <daftykins> oh right
[01:12] <daftykins> Aquafresh: how was it installed? did you add a PPA?
[01:12] <Aquafresh> daftykins: no. it was .deb
[01:12] <daftykins> hrmm
[01:12] <Nick____> kostkon this is what lspci shows for my VGA: http://askubuntu.com/questions/54464/how-to-install-intel-corporation-2nd-generation-core-processor-family-integrated
[01:13] <Nick____> 2nd line
[01:13] <Nick____> should i try edgers?>
[01:13] <kostkon> Nick____, search for "fglrx" and "ati". you might find the following useful  dpkg -l | grep search_term     apt-cache search search_term     apt-cache policy package_name press tab to autocomplete
[01:14] <daftykins> Aquafresh: does "dpkg -l | grep crossover" output anything?
[01:14] <Aquafresh> yes
[01:14] <Aquafresh> Aquafresh: yes
[01:14] <daftykins> Aquafresh: can you type it out at all?
[01:15] <kostkon> Nick____, dpkg -l | grep -i search_term  is even better
[01:15] <Aquafresh> daftykins: yes. iU crossover 12.1.2-1 i386 Run windows applications like MS Office
[01:15] <Nick____> kostkon dpkg shows no fglrx, apt-get remove fglrx-* has nothing to uninstall
[01:16] <daftykins> Aquafresh: try "sudo dpkg -r crossover"
[01:16] <Aquafresh> Aquafresh: alright
[01:16] <Aquafresh> daftykins: alright. Should I reboot
[01:16] <Aquafresh> ?
[01:17] <daftykins> afterward if it works yep
[01:17]  * Aquafresh crosses fingers
[01:17] <kostkon> Nick____, rty reinstalling the intel driver,   sudo apt-get clean  and then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel --reinstall
[01:18] <Nick____> kostkon paste.ubuntu.com/7219599
[01:18] <Nick____> that's what locate shows for fglrx
[01:18] <Nick____> ok
[01:18] <Aquafresh> daftykins: loaded to desktop. unity still did not load
[01:18] <Nick____> ones ec
[01:18] <kostkon> Nick____, so it's still there, or some part of it anyway
[01:19] <Aquafresh> daftykins: installing compizfig settings manager
[01:19] <daftykins> Aquafresh: ok, can you login at a TTY after hitting ctrl+alt+F!?
[01:19] <daftykins> *F1
[01:19] <Aquafresh> yes
[01:19] <Aquafresh> im going to go about the instructions you suggested earlier now
[01:19] <daftykins> Aquafresh: cool, "sudo service lightdm stop" there should kill X on TTY7
[01:19] <Nick____> kostkon maybe...not sure what those belong to or if they're even being used
[01:19] <Aquafresh> daftykins: when do you want me to do that?
[01:20] <daftykins> Aquafresh: before trying to prior dconf command and the other
[01:20] <blackhat486> tskill lightdm
[01:20] <daftykins> to=the
[01:20] <daftykins> i'm not sure killing it is necessary
[01:21] <Nick____> kostkon after reinstall of intel, still same problem--blank desktop with 'system proram problem detected' box
[01:21] <randomnomad> How is it going i trying to find a audio problem
[01:21] <randomnomad> to fix an
[01:22] <kostkon> Nick____, are you getting the same error in Xorg.0.log
[01:22] <daftykins> !details | randomnomad
[01:22] <randomnomad> ohh sorry i cant get audio to passthough hdmi
[01:23] <Nick____> kostkon same mismatch error, yes
[01:23] <blackhat486> !ping unopaste
[01:23] <kostkon> Nick____, sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx --reinstall maybe
[01:24] <randomnomad> its a nvidia chipset mcp79 i beleve
[01:24] <kostkon> Nick____, also paste the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf if there is one
[01:24] <randomnomad> have googled everything and have tried everything searched so far
[01:24] <randomnomad> after that i did a fresh install and came in here
[01:24] <Aquafresh> daftykins: hey nothing worked after I installed the compiz thing
[01:25] <Nick____> kostkon thre isn't one.... if I run startx I get "(EE) module ABI major version (7) doesn't match the server's version (8)
[01:25] <daftykins> Aquafresh: oh there was no need to install the compiz thing, i didn't realise that's what you were doing in the TTY. i was expecting you'd run the commands from earlier
[01:26] <Aquafresh> daftykins: can you tell me them again? I can't find them when I scroll up
[01:26] <randomnomad> aplay -l see the device buts it dosent list it in the plusaudio so any help would be great or a place to find it
[01:27] <daftykins> Aquafresh: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[01:27] <daftykins> Aquafresh: this has to be done at the TTY after 'sudo service lightdm stop' though preferably
[01:27] <Aquafresh> right
[01:28] <daftykins> Aquafresh: third up: "setsid unity"
[01:28] <Aquafresh> daftykins: so after I enter dconf etc. I get an error. Yes I ran sudo service lightdm stop
[01:28] <kostkon> Nick____, actually the correct way to restart X is  sudo service lightdm restart
[01:28] <daftykins> Aquafresh: hrmm what's that error?
[01:29] <Nick____> kostkon yes i've been doing that, just figured I'd try startx..and that seems like a error that says that the driver and module don't match, but not sure
[01:29] <Aquafresh> daftykins: spawning command line 'dbus-launch' etc
[01:31] <daftykins> Aquafresh: ok run "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:unity-team/ppa"
[01:31] <daftykins> Aquafresh: then: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unity" to be sure it's all there
[01:32] <Aquafresh> daftykins: "apt-get-repository" not found
[01:32] <daftykins> you typo'd ;)
[01:32] <randomnomad> im thinking that it might be an alsa problem but any help to try to locate it would be great kinda new at this
[01:32] <Aquafresh> hahaha
[01:32] <Aquafresh> thanks
[01:33] <Aquafresh> daftykins: running update now
[01:33] <kostkon> Nick____, try this: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[01:33] <daftykins> randomnomad: which nvidia driver are you using?
[01:33] <randomnomad> 304
[01:34] <randomnomad> the current
[01:34] <kostkon> Nick____, then you could try the edgers ppa, it might replace everything that needs to be replaced and fix the problem. plus you'll get an newer version of the driver
[01:34] <Aquafresh> daftykins: so now what? after the update?
[01:34] <daftykins> Aquafresh: did it install anything?
[01:35] <Aquafresh> daftykins: i guess so? I did get some "failed to fetch" responses. I think it's from a bad ppa I added a while back
[01:36] <daftykins> hmm give it a reboot and see if anything's changed
[01:36] <Aquafresh> alright
[01:36] <randomnomad> i was thinking about trying to alsa daily diver
[01:36] <randomnomad> to see if it fixes the problem
[01:37] <Nick____> kostkon ok i did that but did purge (git red of everything) did the same and purged xorg-core...afer reinstallling core it complained that there was no 'x', so reinstalled xserver-xorg...now when i run startx it says GLX loaded, when i restart lightdm i still get the same problem but now i have a bar at the top at least...maybe now it's a unity thing?
[01:37] <Aquafresh> Aquafresh: desktop but no unity
[01:37] <Nick____> gonna try restarting
[01:37] <kostkon> Nick____, tried rebooting already?
[01:37] <kostkon> yeah
[01:38] <Aquafresh> daftykins: desktop but no unity
[01:38] <buffalo_> exit
[01:39] <daftykins> Aquafresh: hrmm, ok one serious idea, is try a "mv ~/.config ~/.configold" then reboot
[01:39] <Aquafresh> daftykins: if this does not work do I need to consider a fresh install? :/
[01:39] <Nick____> kostkon restart same problem...but the bar at the top is promising, also no mismatch error in xorg.0.log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7219649
[01:40] <daftykins> Aquafresh: well, you could wait for someone more knowledgable
[01:40] <daftykins> Aquafresh: i don't understand why the dconf command errors like it does
[01:40] <kostkon> Nick____, good. try resetting unity and compiz again and then reboot
[01:40] <Nick____> kostkon ok we'll do, thanks for your help btw
[01:40] <kostkon> Nick____, np
[01:40] <Aquafresh> daftykins: after the mv do I need to reboot
[01:40] <Nick____> kostkon 'reset' as in, purge and reinstall?
[01:40] <daftykins> Aquafresh: yep
[01:41] <kostkon> Nick____, i mean this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[01:41] <Nick____> ah yes
[01:42] <excelsiora> hi, anyone here?
[01:42] <daftykins> yes
[01:42] <daftykins> ask away if you have a problem
[01:43] <excelsiora> I'm at a talk on ERC, :) So do I upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 to 14.04, or do I just do a fresh install?
[01:44] <Nick____> kostkon after running it showed 'glx loading'...stuck at terminal....restart lightdm, got unity bar but errors, uninstall ccsm, rstart again....WORKING!
[01:44] <kostkon> Nick____, :)
[01:44] <Nick____> kostkon thanks so much for your help
[01:44] <Nick____> kostkon++
[01:44] <Nick____> kostkon++
[01:44] <Nick____> no karma here i take it
[01:44] <kostkon> Nick____, no probs. my pleasure
[01:44] <Nick____> well you deserve it
[01:45] <Nick____> kostkon thanks so much
[01:45] <kostkon> Nick____, np again :P
[01:45] <Nick____> kostkon if you'e ever in new york, i owe you a beer
[01:45] <karstensrage> so do you have to restart to make the changes of the openssl bug take effect?
[01:45] <kostkon> Nick____, i'll remember that :P
[01:45] <daftykins> excelsiora: i never did have much faith in upgrades of anything ;)
[01:46] <Nick____> thanks kostkon and have a good night (btw my nick on here is aaas...im on my laptop so thats why it's Nick___...im usually in #ubuntu, but when im active im usually helping ;)
[01:46] <maxshellubu> firt install ubuntu 13.10 in an 9 years old hp. working perfecto :) loving it
[01:47] <kostkon> Nick____, ok, then i'll see you again sooner or later gn
[01:47] <Nick____> kostkon take care
[01:47] <maxshellubu> tired now to ask many questions :)
[01:49] <mpoole> looks like the new openssl packages for 12.04 are still vunerable..........
[01:51] <karstensrage> do you have to reboot?
[01:51] <mpoole> /join #ubuntu-packaging
[01:53] <Kardos> mpoole, even 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12?
[01:53] <mpoole> thats what I installed
[01:53] <mpoole> restarted stunnel
[01:53] <mpoole> to reload libssl.so
[01:53] <mpoole> and apparently according to http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/ the site is still vulnerable
[02:01] <kyte> Anyone know of a good place to get videos/training on ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server?
[02:01] <karstensrage> mpoole, how long does that test take, jesus
[02:04] <hnet> hello?
[02:05] <hnet> hi
[02:05] <daftykins> hi.
[02:05] <Beldar> hello, this is support, leave a message after the beep
[02:05] <hnet> oh...
[02:05] <Beldar> jus kidding
[02:06] <hnet> well I am now try to install ubunt 14.10 on my netbook
[02:06] <hnet> but i cant see the buttons
[02:06] <daftykins> hnet: that's impossible 14.10 doesn't exist yet
[02:06] <hnet> 13.10 sorry
[02:07] <hnet> I tried xrandr and adjusted screen resolution
[02:08] <wolflarson> did you confirm the hash of the image?
[02:08] <hnet> oh I will
[02:11] <Guest000000> Hello, I have a huge problem with linux... I installed it on my acer c720 chromebook, and when I turned the chromebook off and on again, I can't seem to access linux...
[02:12] <daftykins> Guest000000: what happens instead?
[02:13] <Guest000000> Just two beeps.
[02:13] <coderanger> Anyone know if the OpenSSL 5.12 package is actually safe to use?
[02:13] <coderanger> All evidence points to it being a bad release
[02:13] <ska> In 14.04: I don't have any virtual consoles...
[02:13] <ska> How do I turn those on?
[02:13] <daftykins> Guest000000: try holding left shift after powering on and see if you get a menu
[02:14] <Guest000000> Thanks I'll try, I'll respond in 30 minutes. (I have to do something else right now..
[02:14] <hnet> ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso	D0508F909C2C71D96AEAC5EFB0329B33
[02:14] <daftykins> Guest000000: oh wait forgot you said chromebook. sounds like you're going to need to flick the switch to disable developer mode and return it to defaults first
[02:14] <daftykins> Guest000000: that'll wipe everything on the install though
[02:15] <hnet> Well... my ubuntu iso's hash seems to match
[02:15] <randomnomad> ok ive installed alsa daily and still has not fixed my problem
[02:16] <Samantha`> Ubuntu is fucking gay, and is made by faggots, for faggots. #ChangeMyView (Protip: You can't.)
[02:16] <Samantha`> UBUNTU = GAY
[02:16] <Samantha`> UBUNTU = GAY
[02:16] <Samantha`> UBUNTU = GAY
[02:16] <Samantha`> UBUNTU = GAY
[02:16] <Samantha`> UBUNTU = GAY
[02:17] <daftykins> samantha has a rather rude demeanour
[02:17] <hnet> Problem arises when I try to 'prepare partions'. I can"t see quit, back, forward buttons!
[02:17] <unkerror> maybe, maybe not
[02:17] <unkerror> Samantha seems to think Ubuntu = Happy
[02:17] <vanishing> indeed
[02:17] <vanishing> now lets get on topic
[02:18] <randomnomad> needs help
[02:18] <randomnomad> lol
[02:18] <daftykins> randomnomad: is that thing an atom and ion1 setup?
[02:18] <randomnomad> ion
[02:19] <Guest000000> Hold on, I noticed it says Booting from external drive is not enabled... is there a chance it will work after I enable it?
[02:19] <Guest000000> |/back|
[02:19] <hnet> Can I adjust size of Ubuntu installation windows?
[02:19] <hnet> I can't see buttons...
[02:20] <SchrodingersScat> hnet: have you tried holding alt and dragging the screen?
[02:20] <SchrodingersScat> hnet: er, window
[02:20] <Beldar> hnet, Try the alt key and left click to move it around.
[02:20] <hnet> Oh thanks!
[02:21] <hnet> Now I can see the buttons
[02:21] <randomnomad> i beleve its an mcp79 chipset
[02:21] <randomnomad> or thats how everything is listing
[02:22] <Guest000000> Anyway can someone explain Chrubuntu to me? I installed it (Took about an hour.), then I turned it off, and now daftykins says I have to reformat it..
[02:23] <mobo> hello?
[02:24] <unkerror> hi
[02:24] <mobo> I have a question about resizing partitions in a 12.04 live boot, if anyone has the time
[02:24] <daftykins> Guest99852: aaaah you know you have to repeat some of the steps to launch it from chrome OS right? it's just a dirty 'hack' to get ubuntu on, it's not really an official install
[02:24] <daftykins> oops wrong guy
[02:25] <daftykins> Guest000000: aaaah you know you have to repeat some of the steps to launch it from chrome OS right? it's just a dirty 'hack' to get ubuntu on, it's not really an official install
[02:25] <unkerror> I may not know the answer, but I can try to answer if I do :)
[02:25] <cfhowlett> !ask|mobo
[02:25] <Guest000000> daftykins: What commands do I use?
[02:26] <daftykins> Guest000000: i dunno off hand, did you follow a guide on a website?
[02:26] <Guest000000> the chrubuntu blogspot.
[02:26] <Guest000000> Followed it perfectly.
[02:27] <cfhowlett> Guest000000 it's not an official ubuntu distro and not supported here.
[02:27] <Guest000000> Thanks for trying though.
[02:27] <mobo> I was trying to install ubuntu 12.04 alongside win7 (on it's partition), and it wouldn't let me select the main partition. I tried modifing/mounting it with gparted, but it wouldn't mount it, as it says it is "corrupted or has damage". I'm pretty sure it's not. Anyone have any ideas as to what is going on?
[02:27] <Guest000000> Didn't know where to go for support.
[02:28] <frankieab> my computer freezes during restart how can i troubleshoot or fix that
[02:28] <zagaza> hi.. what do you guys recommend for first time linux? 12.04 or 13.10?
[02:28] <cfhowlett> Guest000000 understood.  see www.reddit.com/r/chrubuntu
[02:28] <unkerror> zagaza: personally I'd wait 10 days for the LTS 14 release
[02:28] <unkerror> but if you don't want to wait I'd go with 12.04
[02:28] <mobo> frankieab: does it let you pull up a tty?
[02:29] <randomnomad> ok got it to play a test soung with speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:0,3
[02:29] <frankieab> no, not when its hung
[02:29] <mobo> hm
[02:29] <randomnomad> but still doesnt show up in plusaudio
[02:29] <Guest000000> Thanks for showing me the place for proper Chrubuntu support cfhowlett. (:
[02:29] <zagaza> unkerror: is that an official release or some beta?
[02:29] <mobo> is it ONLY restart?
[02:30] <mobo> *the error only when restarting
[02:30] <unkerror> its scheduled to be officially released on the 17th
[02:30] <frankieab> no shutdown as well
[02:30] <zagaza> unkerror ok neat, thanks.. I'll wait for that one
[02:30] <unkerror> no problem
[02:30] <cfhowlett> zagaza current supported versions are 13.10 and 12.04.4 LTS.  Next release= 14.04 which will also be LTS
[02:31] <zagaza> cool
[02:31] <zagaza> tired of windows need a change :)
[02:32] <cfhowlett> zagaza details of the target computer?
[02:32] <unkerror> heh, I had that feeling about a month ago when I replaced windows completely on my desktop system
[02:33] <zagaza> cfhowlett hp pavilion dv6, ssd 128gb, 4gb ram, i5 2.26ghz
[02:33] <zagaza> laptop
[02:33] <hnet> I'm now installing Ubuntu on my netbook, which ran XP
[02:34] <cfhowlett> zagaza ubuntu should run nicely on that
[02:34] <cfhowlett> hnet netbook?  you might find that lubuntu or xubuntu are better options.  lubuntu is specifically optimized for lower/older specification hardware
[02:34] <unkerror> I have a similar setup on my laptop, without the ssd, and it runs great on there
[02:35] <hnet> Will Ubuntu run nicely on intel N270?
[02:35] <zagaza> cool cool
[02:35] <hnet> Okay... I will try
[02:35] <cfhowlett> !atom|hnet
[02:36] <cfhowlett> hnet is that also a netbook?
[02:37] <hnet> Well I am using laptop with intel i3 370m
[02:37] <unkerror> I run xubuntu-desktop on both of my systems, not because I have to, but because I prefer it to unity ;)
[02:37] <hnet> which runs w7
[02:38] <hnet> As support for windows xp ends, I decided to install ubuntu on my netbook
[02:38] <unkerror> good choice
[02:38] <cfhowlett> hnet lubuntu or xubuntu
[02:39] <hnet> oh.. I dont know.. I just downloaded ubuntu from ubuntu homepage...
[02:40] <hnet> " d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 	  ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso "
[02:40] <ska> How do I get my virtual consoles to work iin 14.04?
[02:40] <cfhowlett> hnet no reason not to try it - but remember lubuntu/xubuntu options
[02:41] <hnet> thanks for info
[02:42] <unkerror> is there any major difference between running ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop and running xubuntu distro?
[02:42] <hnet> I first tried to install debian xfce
[02:42] <cfhowlett> unkerror xubuntu has a different set of default packages
[02:42] <hnet> but when moving files using thunar file manager
[02:48] <redbluefish> Hello
[02:48] <cfhowlett> redbluefish greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[02:48] <DenSaakalte> Hey everyone. I've been trying for at least an hour to mount Windows shares on the terminal, I already can access them un Nautilus without problem. But every time I try this command 'sudo mount -t cifs //netbiosname/folder/ /media/folder/ -o guest,rw,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777', it says 'mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system'. I've already installed cifs-utils and all, and I've restarted several times
[02:56] <DenSaakalte> I'm going to try and add cifs to /etc/modules and see if that fixes the problems. I'll be back in a bit and let you know if it worked
[03:01] <DenSaakalte> Nope, that didn't work
[03:01] <DenSaakalte> cifs also doesn't show in cat /proc/filesystems
[03:04] <hnet> I just finished my Ubuntu installation and it works perfectly
[03:04] <unkerror> congrats
[03:05] <hnet> Touchpad didn't worked properly on debian Xfce but not on Ubuntu! haha
[03:10] <ubuntulivekkkkkk> Hello, I am having issues with boot repair. I have used it in the past and It was successful. The problem with booting was generated, because I removed the partition for Ubuntu 14.04, while I had another partition with Linux Mint and another one with Windows 7. I have tried using boot/repair on Ubuntu 14.04, but it is not yet supported, so I changed the apt/get sources list to the 13.10 version, but was still not successful. I had a
[03:10] <ubuntulivekkkkkk> live USB around with Lubuntu 13.04 around and that-s what I am trying to use with boot/repair. Here are the links for both options I was given with the recommended boot/repair>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7219795/ *I told boot repair to fix buggy EFI kernel and I got a few commands to post on the command line afterwars(. The other option is in http://paste.ubuntu.com/7219811/ *be ware that the prompt for the buggye kernel fix is only sh
[03:10] <ubuntulivekkkkkk> own after I received this link(, this time I did not get any commands from boot/repair. Usually, I would have an option in the BIOS with an entry called @ubuntu@, which I used to boot with. Ever since I removed Ubuntu 14.04, that option is no longer visible and subsequent linux installations do not make that entry show up again. Thank you for your time.
[03:25] <ryonaloli> is openssl 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2 vulnerable?
[03:25] <ryonaloli> to CVE-2014-0160
[03:26] <kostkon> ryonaloli, already got updated http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[03:27] <kostkon> ryonaloli, check for updates
[03:27] <ryonaloli> k
[03:28] <DenSaakalte> So I just did 'ls /lib/modules/3.4.0/kernel/fs' and it shows fat, fuse, hfsplus, isofs, nls and udf, but no cifs which is what (it seems) I need to have in order to use samba shares on CLI. How do I do this?
[03:49] <JCM83> youtube playback just failed for me, keeps having to kill pages in Chromium.
[03:49] <JCM83> Do I need to restart the flash process or something?
[03:52] <daftykins> JCM83: chrome has a task manager
[03:52] <DenSaakalte> Alright, I gave up. I guess I won't use samba shares on CLI
[03:53] <cisconinja> so i have my ubuntu 13.10 running on a different box, and i am using cygwin in windows get x application i.e clock, firefox, xchat. when i minimize xchat or any other x window i can't see to find it again , is there a way i can maximize it ?
[03:53] <daftykins> DenSaakalte: what's going wrong?
[03:53] <daftykins> DenSaakalte: what are you doing to mount the share and what's happening?
[03:54] <cisconinja> doing fg list that xchat is running
[03:54] <DenSaakalte> Here's what I'm doing: "sudo mount -t cifs //ACER-074AC68100/Films /media/films/ -o guest,rw,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777"
[03:54] <DenSaakalte> But here's the error I get: "mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system
[03:54] <DenSaakalte> "
[03:54] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, have you tried "auto"?
[03:54] <DenSaakalte> And mount error(19): No such device / Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[03:55] <DenSaakalte> How do I use auto? (also I have cifs-utils installed already)
[03:55] <daftykins> DenSaakalte: check 'smbclient' and 'smbfs' are installed, then confirm that that share is going to work using smbclient
[03:55] <daftykins> "smbclient //IP/share -u username"
[03:55] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, personally I use "auto", where you used "cifs"
[03:55] <cisconinja> anyone pleasr
[03:55] <drclaw> is it just me or is there no openssl 1.0.1g package to upgrade to yet for 12.04.4 ?
[03:56] <cisconinja> s/pleasr/please
[03:56] <daftykins> !latest | drclaw
[03:56] <DenSaakalte> Okay let me try
[03:56] <DenSaakalte> mount: special device //ACER-074AC68100/Films does not exist
[03:56] <DenSaakalte> Now this is new
[03:56] <DenSaakalte> Let's see if it's a name issue now
[03:56] <daftykins> perhaps slashes the other way
[03:56] <drclaw> ubottu: this is re: the heartbleed "serious" vulnerability
[03:57] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, well usually the mounts go to "media". Check the path
[03:57] <kostkon> drclaw, some mirrors usually are some hours behind the main one. just wait a bit
[03:57] <DenSaakalte> It says "No such file or directory" on Nautilus, I was sure I created it
[03:57] <DenSaakalte> I'll recreate it
[03:57] <pato_bravo> Also, I used /dev/<disk> where you used your Acer oath
[03:57] <DenSaakalte> Okay, let's try
[03:58] <daftykins> DenSaakalte: pato_bravo lol, network shares are quite different to disks
[03:58] <daftykins> oops ignore double highlight
[03:58] <daftykins> DenSaakalte: i should've said "smbclient \\IP\share -u username"
[03:58] <DenSaakalte> Alright
[03:59] <DenSaakalte> Going to try that last one thing first
[03:59] <pato_bravo> daftykins: Well, I mounted my disk and then edited smb.cfg for the share. I have done a write up of what I did, brb.
[03:59] <daftykins> drclaw: so you're saying there's a zero day out for it?
[03:59] <kostkon> daftykins, it's out already
[04:00] <daftykins> kostkon: wasn't me asking, drclaw is :)
[04:01] <drclaw> daftykins: you can dump the private key in some cases http://heartbleed.com/
[04:01] <kostkon> daftykins, better ignore what i'm saying.  early morning hours :P
[04:01] <daftykins> ah i saw what you shared now
[04:01] <drclaw> kostkon: there is a fix from openssl, but I'm not sure about an ubuntu package yet
[04:01] <daftykins> indeed, slow to update regional APT mirrors perhaps
[04:02] <drclaw> k thanks
[04:02] <daftykins> drclaw: switch to the main ubuntu repo and see if you get offered an update if you're desperate
[04:02] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, it's in portuguese. Ask me if you have any questions http://paste.ubuntu.com/7219941/
[04:02] <DenSaakalte> Let's see
[04:02] <kostkon> drclaw, i've received the update, just wait a bit for the mirror you are getting your updates from to sync with the main server. it may take a few hours or so
[04:02] <pato_bravo> Looking for help with boot repair!
[04:02] <DenSaakalte> I speak spanish so I understand it roughly
[04:03] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, ah couldn't be better.
[04:03] <drclaw> kostkon: thanks for the info
[04:05] <pato_bravo> Looking for help with boot-repair!
[04:08] <Guest000000> Does anyone know a good Getting started with Ubuntu guide?
[04:08] <Guest000000> I have been using Ubuntu for 10 minutes now and I am already confused... :S
[04:09] <Beldar> "Excellent" Mr, Burns
[04:10] <SeaSki>  SURPRISE !  http://i.imgur.com/Jf3M4JX.png
[04:10] <Morgan_Freeman>  SURPRISE !  http://i.imgur.com/Jf3M4JX.png
[04:10] <drclaw> looks like I'm using us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.91.13, .14, .15)
[04:10] <simiant> Hello. I am having a problem getting xscreensaver to start automatically in lubuntu 13.10. Can anyone help me out?
[04:14] <Bashing-om> Guest000000: ->http://ubuntu-manual.org/downloads , http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/12.10/en_US/screen/Getting%20Started%20with%20Ubuntu%2012.10.pdf <- should keep ya occupied 'till ya learn better.
[04:15] <Guest000000> Thanks :)
[04:15] <Guest000000> It took me 5 hours to get Ubuntu on my chromebook.
[04:16] <xmj> moin
[04:16] <xmj> is there a heartbeat-fixed openssl version for 12.04 LTS ?
[04:16] <DenSaakalte> Well, that didn't help much, unfortunately. It keeps saying the directory does not exist even though it does
[04:17] <Bashing-om> Guest000000: NP, that is just for starters, bear in mind, old info is old and may no longer apply. Time and experience will give you the ability to differentiate.
[04:17] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, is it when you mount the directory?
[04:17] <drclaw> xmj: I was just asking about that, I've been told that it's taking some time to hit mirrors, but I'm pulling from us.archive.ubuntu.com and the three IPs that resolves to for me are serving 1.0.0e (and one of the three is just down)
[04:17] <DenSaakalte> When I do this: "sudo mount -t auto ACER-074AC68100/Films/ /media/films/"
[04:18] <DenSaakalte> I've tried in a lot of ways
[04:18] <DenSaakalte> With/out slashes, etc
[04:18] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte: Well, have you tried with the /dev/<disk> method?
[04:18] <drclaw> xmj: I'm trying to query from elsewhere if there is split horizon / regional dns records I'm not seeing
[04:18] <xmj> drclaw: did you mean 1.0.1e ?
[04:18] <xmj> the bug has only been fixed in .g btw.
[04:18] <DenSaakalte> I'm going to try it now
[04:18] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, you just have to lookup, which disk it is under fstab with the command that is in the pastebin.
[04:19] <drclaw> xmj: I did, thanks, sorry
[04:19] <drclaw> er nope
[04:19] <drclaw> I'm not paying enough attention 1.0.1-4
[04:19] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte: For me it's usually <disk> is usually sdb, since I only have the hard disk connected to the computer and no other peripherals most of the time.
[04:19] <xmj> ?
[04:19] <drclaw> and 1.0.1c I guess
[04:20] <drclaw> er there's f
[04:20] <drclaw> I need to read more :(
[04:20] <drclaw> sorry I'm doing too many things and going off half cocked
[04:20] <drclaw> so 1.0.1f is the last I see
[04:20] <xmj> drclaw: g is, actually.
[04:21] <drclaw> xmj: yes I know it should be, but I'm not seeing it
[04:21] <DenSaakalte> pato_bravo, for me it's /dev/sda1
[04:21] <DenSaakalte> Only
[04:22] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, that's very strange. Can you open up Disks if you are running Ubuntu and check if the Asus shows up over there?
[04:23] <drclaw> xmj: not in the list for me here http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/ us.archive.ubuntu.com resolves to 91.189.91.13, .14, and .15 for me, .14 just a default apache install atm it appears tho
[04:23] <DenSaakalte> pato_bravo, the acer only shows up when I click on Network, it doesn't show in Devices/Disks
[04:23] <drclaw> not repo there I mean
[04:23] <drclaw> no*
[04:24] <DenSaakalte> When I type smbtree on CLI, all the shares appear there
[04:24] <xmj> drclaw: the fact that ubuntu's repos do not have 1.0.1g does not change the fact that it's the latest ...
[04:24] <xmj> regardless. that means i can relax, wait and have breakfast first.
[04:24] <drclaw> xmj: I fully agree, my point is that it would be great if it was in the repos I'm trying to use
[04:25] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, I see we are talking about different things.
[04:25] <xmj> not like we have important financial systems depending on tight openssl security ... </sarcasm>
[04:25] <drclaw> hehe
[04:25] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, if you have a GUI installed can you go to your file browser and to the address: "smb://<ip_of_conputer_which_disk_is_connected_to>"
[04:25] <drclaw> waiting for upgrade, upgrading, then reissuing keyes, *sigh*
[04:26] <drclaw> keys*
[04:26] <drclaw> re-generating rather probably should say
[04:26] <hnet> hj
[04:26] <DenSaakalte> That does work, pato_bravo. I can see the shares in Nautilus and use the files there. My problem is that I can't access them via terminal
[04:26] <xmj> drclaw: exactly. breakfast <lunch, dinner, midnight snack,depends on timezone> time >:P
[04:27] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte: I am bit of my field now, but do you have any authentication going when you go to that address?
[04:28] <DenSaakalte> No, there's no password requested at all
[04:28] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte:  But you can go in to the folder of the mounted disk correct?
[04:29] <DenSaakalte> I don't have any mounted disk with the shares, that's the thing
[04:29] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte: Because I do not know to what extent the CLI can provide with authentication.
[04:30] <DenSaakalte> I can't mount any disk, every time I try it it says either it doesn't exist or that cifs is not supported
[04:30] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte,  post the command you're using to mount.
[04:30] <DenSaakalte> So I can only use it in nautilus with smb://
[04:30] <DenSaakalte> Ok
[04:30] <DenSaakalte> sudo mount -t cifs //ACER-074AC68100/Films /media/films/ -o guest,rw,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[04:30] <DenSaakalte> That's what every guide online says
[04:31] <drclaw> hmm, my friend on the US west coast also resolving us.archive.ubuntu.com to the same thing, kostkon when you say "i've received the update" mind if I ask what mirror you are using?  Also are you on 12.04.4?
[04:31] <kostkon> drclaw, uk mirror and yes on 12.04.4
[04:31] <drclaw> kostkon: that explains it, thanks
[04:31] <kostkon> drclaw, np
[04:31] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, that's a very compact way of mounting Samba shares. Not sure if that would work. Really out of my field.
[04:32] <DenSaakalte> Even if I try sudo mount -t cifs //ACER-074AC68100/Films /media/films/ it's the same result
[04:32] <DenSaakalte> I can't find any other way to mount samba shares
[04:33] <omar> Hi all. I
[04:33] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, sorry to ask this again but you have tried to replace //ACER(...) with /dev/<sdxy> correct?
[04:33] <DenSaakalte> What is sdxy?
[04:34] <omar> I set up my laptop screen to turn off after 3 minutes of inactivitiy,but sometimes it turns off and sometimes is just doesn't. Why would that be?
[04:34] <DenSaakalte> I only have sda1 which is the filesystem I use
[04:34] <DenSaakalte> I don't have any other
[04:35] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, never mind you're trying to mount a network disk. I really can't help you with that. Sorry, got distracted.
[04:35] <DenSaakalte> Oh okay
[04:37] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, usually I would just access the network share with GUI, but it always there. No need for mounting.
[04:37] <jellow> !encrypt | jellow
[04:37] <pato_bravo> DenSaakalte, I am yet to try with accessing it with CLI.
[04:37] <DenSaakalte> Yeah, but I need to access it via CLI too since I'm executing some commands from terminal to access them
[04:39] <jellow> If a create a private encrypted folder ecryptfs-utils on a network file server will it be accessible to everyone else when un-encrypted?
[04:41] <`Fibz> does any ones xchat auto-authenticate properly?
[04:45] <jwm224> can someone help me format mkv to mp4 xbox readable video format
[04:45] <xmj> kostkon: the update == openssl 1.0.1g ?
[04:46] <kostkon> xmj, 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12 on 12.04
[04:47] <kostkon> xmj, versions are here http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[04:47] <xmj> you know, I hate distributions that deviate from upstream version numbering
[04:47] <xmj> that being said i have a pwned ubuntu box i'm wanting to upgrade. which do i need to have 1.0.1g ?
[04:48] <kostkon> xmj, the latest? probably 14.04
[04:48] <Ben64> xmj: pwned ubuntu box?
[04:49] <drclaw> oh, it's called 1.0.1-4? guess I should have been looking at the 07-Apr-2014 date :P
[04:49] <cfhowlett> xmj sure you're in the right channel?
[04:59] <o------> how do i put windows xp on to a cd from ubuntu
[05:00] <arctictelecom> Hello
[05:00] <o------> hi
[05:00] <megaman> hi
[05:00] <arctictelecom> I am trying to install Cinnamon and it isn't working for me.
[05:01] <cfhowlett> o------ XP is no longer supported by microsoft and windows is not supported here.
[05:01] <cfhowlett> !cinnamon
[05:01] <arctictelecom> Yes
[05:02] <cfhowlett> arctictelecom https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cinammon+ubuntu&t=canonical
[05:02] <o------> how do i use the burning software  for ubuntu to put windows xp on to it
[05:02] <xmj> cfhowlett: not so sure about that one
[05:02] <cfhowlett> xmj ?
[05:02] <arctictelecom> I tried to install it using the PPA given and it won't cooperate.
[05:03] <cfhowlett> arctictelecom take it up with the PPA maintainers
[05:03] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[05:03] <arctictelecom> The PPA seems to work in 13.10 and older but I can't get it to work in 14.04.
[05:04] <o------> how do i put windows xp  useing the burning software off of ubuntu
[05:04] <cfhowlett> arctictelecom for 14.04 support = #ubuntu+1
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !patience|o------
[05:05] <pvl1> o------ what's ur q
[05:05] <cfhowlett> o------ for a bootable windows cdrom or usb, you need to use the windows media creation tools.
[05:06] <o------> i want to put ioot on to a cd
[05:06] <pvl1> So burn it
[05:06] <o------> i want to put it on to cd from using ubuntu cd creator
[05:06] <pvl1> except idk how ur gonna fit it on a cd
[05:06] <pvl1> you can't
[05:08] <chipotle> anyone here can point me to a good guide to changing disk size via lvm? my VPS company used gparted to add 80Gb of space from 30gb, but they said i need to now use LVM inside the box to get it working
[05:08] <Phibs> so I'm running trusty, and I upgraded openssl for the heartbleed bug, and http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/ seems to still think it is vuln
[05:08] <cfhowlett> Phibs 14.04 support = #ubuntu+1
[05:09] <o------> the file of windows is samall enuff to put on to a cd
[05:10] <o------> the file is 589 and  a cd  70  mb
[05:10] <cfhowlett> o------ use braseo.  burn a data disk.  don't expect it to work.  OR you use the actual windows tool to make the windows media.
[05:11] <o------> how do i use the windows tool in ubuntu
[05:12] <linuxfan> wine
[05:12] <pvl1> o------ why do you need to do this
[05:13] <Ben64> !burning | o------
[05:14] <o------> becuase i want to delete  ubuntu and use windos xp again and this is my only os on this system and i dont have it the hard drive split in 2
[05:14] <Ben64> o------: then follow the link ubottu gave you on how to burn iso files. we can't help you any more than that
[05:14] <linuxfan> no problem try nero for linux
[05:15] <tester> hi
[05:15] <pvl1> hello
[05:15] <linuxfan> tester: hi
[05:15] <tester> can some one tell me where to windows 8 stores its login password
[05:15] <rww> tester: ask ##windows
[05:15] <linuxfan> HELLO PVL1
[05:16] <pvl1> thats not an ubuntu question tester
[05:16] <pvl1> linuxfan hello
[05:17] <linuxfan> hi pvl1
[05:18] <pvl1> I feel like it's too quiet. I need to develop problems
[05:19] <weena> hello. the login sound (bongos) is 100% volume when the last volume before I rebooted was closer to 50%. extremely loud and always scares the crap out of people if i boot my computer without warning them
[05:19] <pvl1> YouTube often has screen tearing
[05:19] <pvl1> weena what version ubuntu
[05:19] <weena> 14.04
[05:19] <elroy> in 13.10 where is ~/.config/ located?
[05:20] <elroy> from the menu
[05:20] <weena> i installed 4/1 daily and have been doing dist-upgrad every time i run it since then
[05:21] <IdleOne> elroy: hit ctrl+h to view hidden folders
[05:22] <pvl1> cfhowlett channel forward plz ^^^
[05:24] <elroy> IdleOne, how do I save a file to that folder if its hidden while trying to "save as"?
[05:26] <elroy> is there a way to make hidden folders appear permanently?
[05:27] <elroy> nvmd, they appear now
[05:32] <zenergi> any idea why adding a group to an existing user would not work?  I did a sudo usermod -a -G rvm ubuntu.  I can confirm that the group was added when I look at /etc/groups or if I do groups ubuntu
[05:32] <zenergi> However, the group is not there when I run `id` or `groups` as the ubuntu user.
[05:32] <olskool> how do I know what is my local IP Address?
[05:33] <elroy> does f.lux work in 14?
[05:33] <zenergi> olskool: ifconfig should give you that info
[05:34] <olskool> I have eth 0 and lo and virbro which one ?
[05:37] <chipotle> anyone here can point me to a good guide to changing disk size via lvm? my VPS company used gparted to add 80Gb of space from 30gb, but they said i need to now use LVM inside the box to get it working
[05:38] <zenergi> olskool: I assume it’s the ethernet or WIFI ip that you’re looking for, in that case it shoudl be eth0
[05:38] <rww> zenergi: log out and back in to make group membership changes take effect
[05:38] <zenergi> olskool: I’m not sure what virbro is
[05:38] <cfhowlett> weena 4/1?  assuming you mean 14.04 = #ubuntu+1 for support
[05:38] <zenergi> rww: I tried that too, no change
[05:39] <Alue_> Hi I cannot install wine.
[05:39] <Alue_> Please help
[05:39] <Alue_> I cannot partition my hard dick.
[05:39] <olskool> I installed Ubuntu server on a virtual machine using virtual box and now I want to know the ip address of the guest system i tried ifconfig but it gives me three results: eth0 lo virbro which one is my ip?
[05:40] <zenergi> it’s so weird that the `groups ubuntu` works, and `id ubuntu` works.  What is differnt when I run those commands as user ubuntu but without specifying the user (e.g. `id`)
[05:40] <cfhowlett> Alue_ details
[05:40] <cfhowlett> !details
[05:41] <Alue_> Wine says to install wine I need to remove something.
[05:41] <olskool> zenergi: I tried to ping the ip from the host system (OSX) but it gives  me timeout
[05:41] <cfhowlett> Alue_ pretty sure you're seeing the actual message.  we' re not going to guess at what it MIGHT say.  share the details if you expect help
[05:42] <Alue_> I  need to remove some items to install wine,
[05:42] <zenergi> olskool: you could be blocking pings, does the local IP correlate to something on your network? is there a service running on this linux box to which the osx computer is trying to use?
[05:42] <Alue_> Only if I coukd send a pic,message
[05:42] <cfhowlett> !paste|Alue_
[05:43] <Alue_> I could have shown the problem.
[05:44] <Alue_> It says to install wine these items must be removed.
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Alue_ paste ^^^ see above
[05:45] <Alue_> I can't partition disc.It says that the disc is ,ounted.
[05:46] <Alue_> mounted.
[05:46] <cfhowlett> Alue_  you're running ubuntu from the USB?
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !paste|Alue_ forget the above.  alue.  PASTE THE OUTPUT.
[05:50] <Alue_> I had bought a dell laptop with ubuntu 12.04 LTS pre installed.
[05:50] <weena> really?
[05:51] <cfhowlett> Alue_ stop.  you're telling everything except the most important thing.  either paste the output so we can see or expect little in the way of assistance.
[05:53] <Alue_> I have given a screenshot.
[05:54] <cfhowlett> Alue_ not in this channel.  paste it again.
[05:56] <Alue_> anybody there?
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Alue_ still waiting for the url of your screenshot.  STILL
[05:56] <cfhowlett>  Make sure you give us the URL for your paste
[05:57] <Alue_> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=304394
[05:59] <cfhowlett> alue that is not wine, that's something q4wine
[05:59] <Alue_> this is what I got when I typed wine.
[06:00] <cfhowlett> Alue_ shutdown software center and open a terminal
[06:00] <Alue_> I even tried play onlinux but it too had the same error message.
[06:00] <cfhowlett> Alue_ do this command:   apt-cache policy wine
[06:01] <qin> Alue_: would you close software centre and in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install wine; pressing "y" couple of times may be needed
[06:11] <Alue_> thankssss
[06:11] <Alue_> I am upgrading.
[06:11] <Alue_> But it is taking too much tme.
[06:11] <`Fibz> does any ones xchat auto-authenticate properly?
[06:34] <kpp1> test
[06:34] <serafe> Test !
[06:34] <kpp1> gr
[06:35] <MrJones> hi
[06:36] <MrJones> apt-cache show libssl1.0.0 shows two different package versions here for amd64, and one is vastly outdated
[06:36] <MrJones> what does that mean?
[06:37] <MrJones> http://fpaste.org/92471/39693904/ this is the output I get
[06:37] <MrJones> why twice? and why the old version on the second one?
[06:39] <kostkon> MrJones, apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0
[06:41] <MrJones> kostkon: http://fpaste.org/92472/93927013/
[06:41] <MrJones> does that mean only the newer one is installed? I'm confused
[06:42] <kostkon> MrJones, clear your cache  sudo apt-get clean   and then apt-cache show libssl1.0.0  again
[06:42] <MrJones> it says invalid operation
[06:42] <MrJones> I'm still on 12.04 lts if that is relevant
[06:43] <kostkon> MrJones, you already have the newest version   sudo apt-get clean
[06:43] <MrJones> kostkon: ok that clean worked. however, the output of apt-cache show is still the same (shows package twice, second version is still the old 1.0.1-4ubuntu3
[06:44] <kostkon> MrJones, strange. just ignore it i guess
[06:46] <MrJones> kostkon: the md5sum of  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so matches the old version's md5sum from apt-cache show
[06:46] <kostkon> MrJones, probably it just shows the 2 available versions from the 2 different repos
[06:48] <MrJones> kostkon: also, I can't find another libssl.so
[06:48] <weena> i am trying to remove a keyboard layout from the login screen, anyone have any idea how i can do that?
[06:48] <MrJones> kostkon: ah no, it just started similarly, I guess it's the md5 sum of the package
[06:49] <MrJones> well I really hope I got the newer one
[06:49] <MrJones> isn't there some good way to be sure?
[06:49] <MrJones> the old version shown there is from 2012 :x that wouldn't be good to have
[06:49] <kostkon> MrJones, you are fine.
[06:50] <MrJones> kostkon: see the main thing that worries me is, according to the ubuntu website, 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12 is the fixed 1.0.1g
[06:50] <MrJones> however, that update is apparently less than 8 hours old
[06:50] <MrJones> and I don't think I have updated in that time :x
[06:50] <MrJones> still it claims I have it
[06:51] <kostkon> MrJones, old versions are patched against vulnerabilities too so you'll just get the same version as before but patched
[06:51] <kostkon> MrJones, the notice is here http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[06:52] <MrJones> ah interesting
[06:53] <MrJones> the log shows it just from 2 hours ago
[06:53] <MrJones> does ubuntu auto-upgrade some things?
[06:53] <MrJones> or I upgraded and completely forgot :D
[06:53] <kostkon> MrJones, you can set that in your update manager settings
[06:53] <MrJones> no gui
[06:54] <MrJones> google speaks of a cronjob though, so I guess that may be it
[06:55] <MrJones> kostkon: ok thanks for your help :) I guess I have the new one then. update log even shows it from a few hours ago, and /etc/cron.d/apt has mentions of unattended updates. you learn something new every day :)
[06:55] <kostkon> MrJones, yes. you can check your /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:56] <MrJones> yup it upgraded stuff, it's in the apt history log too
[06:56] <MrJones> ok bye :)
[06:58] <Semor> IF I want to intime monitor the state of a process to restart it in case it is down ,what is the best solution for me ?
[07:12] <MrJones> is there a way to restart the ssh server over ssh?
[07:12] <j4son> yes
[07:12] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:13] <MrJones> j4son: care to elaborate? :)
[07:13] <MrJones> hmm
[07:13] <cristian_c> when I enter the recovery mode from grub, I get a menu
[07:13] <MrJones> will doing it in screen work?
[07:13] <cristian_c> I can enter a root shell
[07:13] <cristian_c> but I'd like enter a non root shell
[07:14] <j4son> MrJones: sshd forks your client connection, so you can just 'service ssh restart' and fly
[07:14] <cristian_c> How can I solve?
[07:14] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:14] <MrJones> j4son: oh ok :D neat
[07:15] <j4son> MrJones: yah, you will obviously need to reconnect to inherit any changes since restart
[07:15] <j4son> but you won't get locked out
[07:15] <nobody_> Hey guys, is the fix for heartbleed for 12.04 LTS out?
[07:15] <MrJones> yes it is
[07:16] <nobody_> I just did an apt-get update/apt-get upgrade and I'm still setting my openssll version as OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[07:16] <nobody_> what should I do?
[07:17] <jjavaholic> what would cause an accidental network jam?
[07:19] <MrJones> nobody_: same here. I think the reason for that is that the update is possibly only out for libssl, not the openssl standalone tool - but I don't know
[07:19] <nobody_> MrJones, :(
[07:21] <kostkon> nobody_, your openssl version will stay the same, just patched against the heartbleed bug
[07:21] <nobody_> kostkon, how do i verify that it's patched?
[07:21] <kostkon> nobody_, did you install the update?
[07:21] <tsimpson> nobody_: you'll still see the same version string, but apt-cache policy openssl should show you have 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12 installed (which has the fix)
[07:21] <MannerMan> http://s3.jspenguin.org/ssltest.py
[07:21] <MannerMan> this script can verify that heartbleed is patched/not patched
[07:22] <tsimpson> nobody_: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12/changelog fyi
[07:23] <kostkon> nobody_, the usn is here http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[07:24] <nobody_> Thanks guys :)
[07:33] <WJB> hello besides top what other cpu memory usage programs can I use for Ubuntu?
[07:34] <bekks> WJB: htop, free, sar, vmstat, nagios, inxi
[07:34] <WJB> tyvm
[07:36] <bekks> WJB: the most easy on is "free -m"
[07:36] <khildin> WJB: don't forget munin
[07:36] <marko-_-> has anyone had some problems with ubuntu 13.10 and android studio
[07:36] <marko-_-> ?
[07:37]  * khildin likes munin... a lot
[07:37] <khildin> especially if you also want to collect from other devices
[07:37] <bekks> marko-_-: What if someone did? Which actual issues do you experience?
[07:38] <khildin> if you only need local machine, then (h)top is probably the easiest
[07:38] <marko-_-> bekks, i do now know. First i thought there was a problem with 32 bit libraries but after following a couple of forums and installing them all (almost) it still won't work (the emulator won't run) so i'm... lost
[07:38] <marko-_-> not know*
[07:39] <bekks> !details | marko-_-
[07:39] <marko-_-> bekks, i downloaded android-studio and when i try to run the emulation it doesn't work. I get errors like this "NAND: could not write file /tmp/android-marko/emulator-DBVPes, No space left on device"
[07:39] <marko-_-> many people get errors like this, but installing some 32 bit libraries fixed it, not with me though
[07:40] <marko-_-> df - h tells me that /tmp is
[07:40] <marko-_-> tmpfs           512M  2,8M  510M   1% /tmp
[07:40] <WJB> Hey <khildin> you like munin who?
[07:40] <marko-_-> i didn't know /tmp was on a partition on it's own? because / has over 80GB of free space
[07:40] <WJB> lol
[07:40] <bekks> marko-_-: tmpfs is called tmpfs because it is a temporary fs in RAM.
[07:41] <khildin> :D
[07:41] <bekks> marko-_-: the mountpoint /tmp is on /, and / has 80GB free in your case.
[07:41] <marko-_-> so there shouldn't be a space problem right?
[07:41] <bekks> marko-_-: Not right.
[07:41] <bekks> marko-_-: Pastebin your /etc/fstab file please.
[07:41] <marko-_-> okay and thanks
[07:42] <marko-_-> bekks, http://pastebin.com/JK4ufvCZ
[07:43] <walt> hello every one
[07:43] <bekks> marko-_-: As can be clearly seen in line 13, tmpfs is set to be 512M only. This is nothing ubuntu ships as default. So most likely you did that.
[07:43] <Guest1136> i got a question
[07:44] <bekks> marko-_-: How much RAM do you have?
[07:44] <marko-_-> bekks, how would i be able to fix that? I have 4GB of ram
[07:44] <Guest1136> somebody knows how to download android-src  in ubuntu
[07:45] <bekks> marko-_-: Put a "#" in front of that line and reboot.
[07:46] <marko-_-> thanks, rebooting
[07:46] <darkelfjuggalo> Ubuntu 13.10; 69-Bit; when I am trying to turn my Device on, I have two serious problems; 75% of the time, it gets to the lof in screen then goes to a black Console rather than letting me Log in; 100% I have to wait 15-20 minutes to find any Network configuration; 5 minutes of that is searching BEFORE going to the login screen in the first place
[07:47] <Guest1136> anyone know?
[07:48] <Guest1136> Successful download android
[07:48] <khildin> Guest1136, http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
[07:49] <hateball> darkelfjuggalo: have you checked your disk for errors?
[07:49] <darkelfjuggalo> how
[07:49] <Guest1136> tryed nothing happened
[07:49] <hateball> !fsck
[07:50] <hateball> darkelfjuggalo: ^
[07:50] <Guest1136> http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
[07:50] <Guest1136> nothing happened
[07:51] <Guest1136> Failed
[07:51] <darkelfjuggalo> bash: !fsck event not found
[07:51] <khildin> Guest1136 you have to read what is on that page
[07:51] <khildin> it gives instructions
[07:54] <darkelfjuggalo> hateball bash: !fsck: event not found
[07:54] <kikimeter> I’ve post a question on ask ubuntu : Why unattended-upgrades does not fix heartbleed bug ?
[07:54] <bekks> darkelfjuggalo: It isnt a bash command.
[07:54] <kikimeter> someone can help me to understand why this morning I still have the heartbleed bug on my server ?
[07:54] <kikimeter> http://askubuntu.com/questions/444848/why-unattended-upgrades-does-not-fix-heartbleed-bug
[07:54] <bekks> !fsck | darkelfjuggalo
[07:56] <marko-_-> bekks, thank you it's working!
[07:57] <Guest1136> is this page Application of China http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
[07:57] <marko-_-> seriously thank you man oh my god
[07:57] <bekks> marko-_-: you're welcome :)
[07:58] <marko-_-> just one little thing. It's loading endlessly (but at the start of the program this is supposed to happen). I looked at the log file anyway and it says error libGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:58] <marko-_-> emulator: emulator window was out of view and was recentered bekks
[07:58] <marko-_-> any idea?
[07:58] <darkelfjuggalo> oh ok so i need to run this on restart... how do I make it save the log so that i can pull it up on my desktop after log in
[07:58] <marko-_-> because right now i only have a blank screen
[07:59] <marko-_-> bekks, error libGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Failed to load libGL.so
[08:00] <bekks> marko-_-: Then tell us all the details now. What have you done before? What did you try to do? What leads to that error? Where do you see that error? Which Ubuntu release do you use? etc.
[08:01] <marko-_-> bekks, i think i have to link that library to the adk manager
[08:01] <marko-_-> i found some solution will try it out
[08:01] <bekks> marko-_-: You should provide the information asked instead randomly trying things.
[08:02] <bekks> *innstead of
[08:02] <marko-_-> i see that error in the android studio in the log window. When i try to run the app i just wrote in an emulator, it runs the emulator but it's a blank screen and i get the error i already posted. That's it
[08:03] <tango_au> No support 11.04?
[08:03] <bekks> marko-_-: Then provide all the other information asked.
[08:03] <Rory> tango_au: 11.04 isn't supported any more, correct
[08:03] <marko-_-> my ubuntu release is 13.10 64bit
[08:03] <bekks> !natty | tango_au
[08:05] <tango_au> I use Zorin based on 11.04  . totally stable and I am hesitant to replace
[08:05] <win5hit> hi there, sorry for asking... i could imagine that some already asked today... Only 1.0.1 and 1.0.2-beta releases of OpenSSL are affected including 1.0.1f and 1.0.2-beta1. ... is OpenSSL 1.0.1e vulnerable... im not sure
[08:05] <bekks> tango_au: neither zorin OS is supported in here, not 11.04
[08:05] <bekks> *nor
[08:05] <woofpluf> How affected is ubuntu by the recent heartbleed issue? Only if RPC is open?
[08:05] <tango_au> okay I am happy with what I have
[08:06] <ikonia> woofpluf: do you mean the ssl issue ?
[08:06] <Rory> woofpluf: What public-facing services are you running that use the vulnerable versions of openssl?
[08:06] <bekks> tango_au: you should update, since you havent received any security fixes for almost 18 months now.
[08:06] <bekks> tango_au: thats very risky.
[08:07] <linuxfan> install ubuntu in c:\
[08:07] <woofpluf> yes the ssl issue
[08:07] <woofpluf> can it decrypt past ssl transactions?
[08:07] <Rory> !ot | woofpluf
[08:07] <win5hit> is there already a updated version in the repo or do we have to compile with -DOPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEATS
[08:07] <Rory> woofpluf: http://heartbleed.com/
[08:07] <marko-_-> bekks, after running the emulator i get this message http://pastebin.com/frCbR9Fg ubuntu 13.10 64bit
[08:07] <bekks> win5hit: the update is in the repos.
[08:08] <marko-_-> i guess everything that was distro-related before is fixed now. I think this is more in-depth android studio problems
[08:08] <bekks> marko-_-: Thats not what I asked for. Provide the information asked.
[08:08] <ikonia> woofpluf: anything using that ssl library that has the vunerability will be at risk in ubuntu
[08:09] <marko-_-> bekks, i installed these packages git-core gnupg flex bison gperf build-essential \
[08:09] <marko-_->   zip curl libc6-dev libncurses5-dev:i386 x11proto-core-dev \
[08:09] <marko-_->   libx11-dev:i386 libreadline6-dev:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 \
[08:09] <marko-_->   libgl1-mesa-dev g++-multilib mingw32 openjdk-6-jdk tofrodos \
[08:09] <marko-_->   python-markdown libxml2-utils xsltproc zlib1g-dev:i386 followed by this command sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so and now i don't get a libGL error anymore, but the error i posted in pastebin
[08:09] <marko-_-> is this all the information?
[08:09] <unopaste> marko-_- you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:09] <woofpluf> ikonia: is it also at risk offline somehow?
[08:10] <Rory> woofpluf: The first sentence here https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140407.txt
[08:10] <Rory> woofpluf: "...to a connected client or server"
[08:10] <tango_au> I will install 14.04 when available .  I have to wonder why we need to completely reinstall the OS to upgare
[08:10] <ikonia> woofpluf: how would it be risk off line ?
[08:10] <tango_au> read upgrade
[08:10] <ikonia> tango_au: you're not using ubuntu are you ?
[08:10] <ikonia> your using zorin ?
[08:11] <bekks> ikonia: Nope, he is on zorin OS.
[08:11] <tango_au> yes
[08:11] <Rory> tango_au: You can't upgrade from Zorin OS to ubuntu 14.04... they're different
[08:11] <ikonia> tango_au: ok - so a.) this converation is nothing to do with ubuntu so please take it to zorin support b.) you can't update from zorin to ubuntu - they are different distrubtions
[08:11] <marko-_-> bekks, looks like the problem was in the emulator i choose. Nexus 10 doesn't work while nexus 4 boots and works. I see the android logo booting up, i still get the same error message though
[08:11] <marko-_-> but i'll wait to see what happens
[08:12] <bekks> marko-_-: would you mind to provide the information asked finally?
[08:12] <tango_au> realize that ,,,,Zorin 8 is latest version and this is based on 13.10 ( i think)
[08:12] <marko-_-> i would if i knew what information you need bekks
[08:12] <ikonia> tango_au: zorin is NOT ubuntu - they are different, so please do not discuss zorin / support here, please take it to the zorin channels
[08:12] <marko-_-> i told you what i'm doing, i told you what i tried. I told you about my system
[08:12] <win5hit> i just did a apt-get upgrade and i'm still on OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013... its a Ubuntu 13.10 server
[08:13] <bekks> marko-_-: < bekks> marko-_-: Then tell us all the details now. What have you done before? What did you try to do? What leads to that error? Where do you see that error? Which Ubuntu release do you use? etc.
[08:13] <kikimeter> win5hit : strange I have the same bug http://askubuntu.com/questions/444848/why-unattended-upgrades-does-not-fix-heartbleed-bug
[08:13] <bekks> marko-_-: you provided random information until now.
[08:13] <marko-_-> but i answered all these questions
[08:13] <win5hit> i habe >10 servers to patch
[08:14] <woofpluf> what about openssl's generation of random numbers, are they also affected by this?
[08:14] <kikimeter> maybe package are not deploy on the mirror ?
[08:14] <bekks> marko-_-: you havent told us what you did before. But you told us you fixed the initial error. So I consider your issue to be fixed.
[08:14] <ikonia> woofpluf: does the bug say it has an impact on random number generation ?
[08:14] <win5hit> kikimeter: may be so
[08:14] <tango_au> Sorry I thought that this channel discussed all Ubuntu distros............................I have been using Linux for several years and thought that I may have been able to contribute from time to time
[08:15] <ikonia> tango_au: no, it's ubuntu only - not ubuntu based distro's
[08:16] <tango_au> Okay ............no problem ....see you later ...
[08:16] <ikonia> tango_au: bye
[08:16] <marko-_-> My system is ubuntu 13.10 i'm trying to make android studio work flawlessly. I encountered many errors which were connected to not having good 32 bit libraries since AVD is built for 32 bit OS. After a couple of hours of googling i found some answers. I added a repository which had ia32-libs package. I installed that package and it started working okay. Now the emulator runs, but i get this error message http://pastebin.com/frCbR9Fg. Now my emulator
[08:16] <marko-_-> just booted up, works fine. But still I get this error. I guess it's no big deal, right?
[08:16] <marko-_-> because everything works okay right now
[08:16] <marko-_-> ^ bekks
[08:17] <woofpluf> ikonia: it doesn't I don't think. How can this bug read past ssl connections?
[08:17] <tango_au> JOIB #ZORIN
[08:17] <Haswell> marko-_-, ubuntu 13.10 64bits*
[08:17] <k1l> tango_au: /join #channel
[08:17] <Haswell> lol
[08:17] <marko-_-> yes, ubuntu 64 bit
[08:17] <tango_au> join #zorin
[08:17] <ikonia> woofpluf: then no, it doesn't have an impact on random number generation, it only impacts what the bug tells you
[08:17] <ikonia> tango_au: /join #zorin
[08:18] <Haswell> marko-_-, just following your questions xDD
[08:18] <win5hit> okay, i'd like to ask again... it looks like there are no updated packages in the repos... i did a upgrade, and im still using vuln version
[08:18] <ikonia> win5hit: have you looked in the repo to see if that package is actually on your repo yet ?
[08:18] <k1l> win5hit: did you make a "sudo apt-get update"
[08:18] <win5hit> k1l: yes i did
[08:19] <k1l> win5hit: ok, which package and which ubuntu are we talking about?
[08:19] <win5hit> ikonia: i tried to, but it wasn't clear to in which path i have to search for it
[08:19] <ikonia> win5hit: browse the repo over http and have a look
[08:19] <win5hit> k1l: we are talking about openssl
[08:19] <win5hit> ikonia: can you please tell me in which path i need to look for the openssl version?
[08:20] <ikonia> in the repo you are using
[08:20] <ikonia> look at your mirror list, and browse it via http
[08:20] <k1l> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openssl&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all  win5hit
[08:20] <win5hit> ikonia: i came this far... but where below that path ;)
[08:20] <win5hit> I'm here: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ but where is the openssl package located in the folder structure?
[08:20] <ikonia> win5hit: sorry - I'm not browsing the repos for you
[08:21] <k1l> win5hit: which ubuntu version? which version of tha package do you have exactly on you system now?
[08:21] <win5hit> ikonia:  it would be enough if you say "i don't know where to look for it"
[08:21] <bekks> win5hit: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[08:21] <Haswell> marko-_-, just a suggestion. Why don't you install now a Ubuntu 13.10 32bits ? Maybe this solves everything.
[08:21] <ikonia> win5hit: I do though,
[08:21] <ikonia> win5hit: but if you want me to "lie" and say that, sure
[08:22] <ikonia> but thats not the truth, the truth is "I'm not browsing the repos for you"
[08:22] <k1l> win5hit: it would be more helpfull if you answer technical questions to specifiy the problem instead of going ad hominem
[08:23] <marko-_-> Haswell, because we're in 2014 :P
[08:23] <Haswell> haha ok
[08:23] <marko-_-> i want to use all of my RAM
[08:23] <Pupuntu> babylon
[08:23] <marko-_-> it works good now. Faster than on windows lol
[08:23] <bekks> marko-_-: you can use all of your RAM with 32bit too.
[08:23] <marko-_-> the emulator
[08:23] <marko-_-> bekks, really? So this affects only windows?
[08:23] <win5hit> ikonia: erm, i don't understand you. what kind of lecture is this... "click through all the folders and remember them"? Its just not making sense to browse all folders and search for something
[08:23] <bekks> marko-_-: Did you try searching for that error message you get yet?
[08:23] <bekks> marko-_-: I did not say a word about windows at all.
[08:24] <Haswell> marko-_-, yeah. You have only 4 GB
[08:24] <ikonia> win5hit: look in the repos - it's an update or a security update, so look for the package you want to see if it's on the repo
[08:24] <ikonia> as trying to fix a problem for a package that isn't on your repo is a waste of time
[08:24] <Haswell> you can with the PAE thing, I think.
[08:24] <eduardo__> hello
[08:24] <marko-_-> no no, i'm just asking because windows can't use more than 2GB of ram if 32 bit and i wonder if it's the same with linux?
[08:24] <bekks> marko-_-: Thats not true.
[08:24] <marko-_-> or 4GB, can't remember
[08:25] <bekks> marko-_-: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[08:25] <k1l> marko-_-: ubuntu uses PAE for more ram ussage by default
[08:25] <bekks> marko-_-: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[08:25] <marko-_-> i see. Thanks bekks :)
[08:25] <marko-_-> and k1l
[08:25] <eduardo__> anyone knows a program like bootupmanager... to enable/disble services... at bootup, but also live... instead of using command line
[08:25] <bekks> !autostart | eduardo__
[08:26] <eduardo__> i want to start / stop apache and ngix servers... which are incompatible
[08:27] <bekks> eduardo__: then disable one of them on command line.
[08:28] <k1l> win5hit: ok, since you dont want to specify your problem i am closing the tabs with the informations now. good luck with your issue
[08:28] <eduardo__> bekks i know it... but i want a gui nice interface to do it....perhaps leave apache as service.... then perhaps i need to change to ngix and have to stop apache and start ngix.... i want a nice gui
[08:28] <eduardo__> ;)
[08:28] <hillary> any body who knows any remote access software for ubuntu os?
[08:29] <NoSpoon42> Hi, I opened txt file written in russian in windows and I see question marks. I have language pack installed, what else do I need?
[08:29] <bekks> hillary: ssh, nx, vnc
[08:32] <woofpluf> I understand that Remote procedure call has to be activated for this vulnerability to work, correct? Does this have to be enabled in ubuntu or do software using ubuntu enable it on their own without this need?
[08:32] <bazhang> NoSpoon42, what about in ubuntu
[08:32] <hillary> bekks: found in centre eah
[08:32] <NoSpoon42> I see question marks
[08:32] <bazhang> NoSpoon42, opening with what
[08:33] <NoSpoon42> scratch
[08:33] <bazhang> !info scratch
[08:34] <bazhang> NoSpoon42, try opening with gedit, libreooffice
[08:34] <WilliamDotAT> how hard is it to build a RAID1 later when i just create an EFI partition and a single one for /?
[08:34] <WilliamDotAT> (with mdraid)
[08:36] <hillary> Thank you
[08:41] <win5hit> k1l: I'm sorry, i missed your technical question. it was not my intention to "ignore" your help!
[08:42] <win5hit> looks like i'm good. i was looking at the version string and not the build time...
[08:53] <Jpmh> I am reading a lot of panic about an openssl bug.  Has ubuntu been patched?
[08:54] <ogra_> yes
[08:54] <bekks> Jpmh: Yes. http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[08:55] <Jpmh> bekks: suspected it would have been, ty.  But did no harm other than waste a few bits to ask.
[08:55] <bekks> Jpmh: You're welcome - got that link pretty fast, answering all questions :)
[08:56] <Jpmh> every time I get frustrated with the next thing Shuttleworth does I forgive all because of the  community and speed and simplicoty of patches
[08:58] <donc3> hi
[08:58] <donc3> I have a memmory usb 3.0 that is only recognized in the usb 2.0 port
[08:59] <donc3> this is the output of dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/7217477/
[08:59] <donc3> can anyone help me?
[09:02] <Rory> donc3: Hello again
[09:02] <donc3> hey rory
[09:02] <Rory> donc3: Are you the same person as yesterday?
[09:03] <ustunozgur> does anyone know whether the openssh is affected by heartbleed? does one need to regenerate private keys?
[09:03] <donc3> yes
[09:03] <ustunozgur> I upgraded to latest packages in 12.04 lts, and openssh-server was upgraded.
[09:03] <Rory> ustunozgur: SSL is not SSH
[09:03] <Rory> ustunozgur: Just because the first two letters are the same does not mean they share security vulnerabilities
[09:03] <donc3> I couldn't fix the issue Rory
[09:04] <kostkon> ustunozgur, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2164-1/   not heartbleed related
[09:05] <sbrunet> hi, in the "ls -l" output I can see a strange file with permission -rw-rw----+ : what's the meaning of the '+' char?
[09:05] <ustunozgur> kostkon: thanks.
[09:05] <Rory> sbrunet: It means there's additional permissions on the file, such as an access control list
[09:05] <ustunozgur> so all should be good then I suppose after upgrading to latest packages and recompiling nginx (that is the only one I don't use the ubuntu package).
[09:06] <donc3> Rory I don't know what more can I do
[09:06] <sbrunet> Rory, thanks.
[09:07] <squaregoldfish> I'm having issues with a hotel wifi connection. I can connect just fine, but can't get outside the 192.168 network. No-one else seems to be having problems. Any suggestions for things I can try?
[09:07] <Rory> donc3: Can you show me the output of "sudo fdisk -l" with the drive connected to the USB2 and then USB3 port?
[09:08] <donc3> Rory
[09:08] <donc3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7220761/
[09:09] <Rory> donc3: Is that the USB3 port? is /dev/sdb your flash drive?
[09:10] <donc3> No
[09:10] <donc3> the flash drive doesn't appear
[09:10] <Rory> donc3: I know I asked this yesterday, but can you please pastebin "sudo lspci -v" ?
[09:11] <donc3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7217562/
[09:11] <benjick> Another heartbleed question, will 1.0.1g come to 12.04 or do I have to upgrade?
[09:12] <Rory> benjick: It will come to 12.04
[09:12] <bekks> benjick: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[09:12] <Rory> !precse
[09:12] <Rory> !precise
[09:12] <Rory> Oh I thought that would say the EOL date, sorry
[09:12] <k1l> benjick: it gets security patches in ubuntu, no matter what version number it is labeld
[09:13] <k1l> Rory: 13.04 got 5 year support, for desktop, too
[09:13] <Rory> k1l: 13.04?
[09:13] <k1l> *12.04
[09:13] <kostkon> benjick, your openssl version will remain the same but will get patched if you install today's updates
[09:13] <Rory> Yeah
[09:13] <Semor> how do I specify password for ssh command ?
[09:14] <benjick> Thanks, I only upgraded the "openssl" package
[09:14] <benjick> bekks: Thanks for the link, I found the correct package
[09:14] <kostkon> benjick, you are fine then
[09:14] <benjick> "OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[09:14] <benjick> How do I see verison of the lib?
[09:15] <bekks> benjick: Just update. :)
[09:15] <skoude> Is the openssl fix already in ubuntu repos?
[09:15] <k1l> benjick: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12/changelog
[09:15] <bekks> benjick: you will get the fixed version.
[09:15] <kostkon> benjick, same version but patched against the bug. you are fine. if you want, reboot your miachine as the usn recommends. also, recreate your keys if you believe it's necessary
[09:15] <k1l> skoude: yes, since yesterday
[09:15] <benjick> I did, I think
[09:15] <benjick> bekks: k1l kostkon: Oh, I see
[09:15] <OerHeks> skoude if you updated, you would know there is an ssl update today
[09:15] <benjick> Thanks :)
[09:16] <skoude> k1l: Thanks :)
[09:17] <benjick> And, while I'm here, you know if debian is patched as well?
[09:17] <k1l> benjick: #debian
[09:17] <benjick> ok, thanks
[09:21] <skoude> hmmm.. apt-get update && apt-cache policy openssl
[09:21] <kanupatar> in linux kernel source tree , where can I find the register map header files for the supported devices?
[09:21] <skoude> Luetaan pakettiluetteloita... Valmis
[09:21] <skoude> openssl:
[09:21] <skoude>   Asennettu: 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1
[09:21] <skoude>   Ehdokas:   1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2
[09:21] <skoude>   Versiotaulukko:
[09:21] <skoude>      1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2 0
[09:21] <unopaste> skoude you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:22] <bekks> skoude: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[09:23] <skoude> Sorry for the paste :)=
[09:28] <andyhuzhill> join #debian
[09:30] <nickfromgreece> is openSSL 1.0.1g in the repos yet?
[09:31] <kostkon> nickfromgreece, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[09:34] <Rory> /ssl
[09:34] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu. Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change.
[09:34] <bleeding> Hi, i know 13.04 doesnt have LTS, but is there a patch available for heartbleed bug ?
[09:34] <Rory> bleeding: spooky, huh?
[09:34] <bleeding> Rory, yes it still says 1.0.1c, but why ?
[09:35] <Rory> bleeding: because Ubuntu package maintainers patched 1.0.1c
[09:35] <woofpluf> Rory: does this OpenSSL issue concern older unsupported Ubuntus?
[09:35] <Rory> woofpluf: Yes
[09:35] <Semor> how do I create vpn service for my tcp server ,which is in private network ?
[09:35] <Rory> woofpluf: Potentially. It depends on your ssl version
[09:35] <bleeding> Rory then they should have changed the version number to 1.0.1c-patched or something
[09:35] <Venomen> what about lsws?
[09:35] <Venomen> http://www.litespeedtech.com/support/forum/threads/openssl-cve-2014-0160.8490/#post-78384
[09:36] <Rory> bleeding: if you really cared, you'd read updates before installing them, and then you'd know.
[09:36] <kostkon> bleeding, upgrade to 13.10 if you can
[09:36] <tsimpson> bleeding: the version is the same (feature set), people test against the version so changing it is not a good option
[09:36] <bleeding> Is there any reliable code to test the patch out there?
[09:37] <bleeding> i'm getting mixed results from some with this patch.
[09:37] <woofpluf> Rory: how can we check what ssl version we're on?
[09:37] <OerHeks> bleeding, not on you 13.04
[09:37] <Venomen> http://s3.jspenguin.org/ssltest.py
[09:37] <Rory> woofpluf: apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0
[09:37] <bleeding> OerHeks: i was using  http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/,  but i'm getting varying results
[09:37] <kostkon> woofpluf, versions don't matter in ubuntu. any supported version got patched
[09:38] <woofpluf> Rory: is openssl 0.9.8k affected?
[09:38] <Venomen> bleeding check my link
[09:38] <SwedMike> woofpluf: no.
[09:38] <bleeding> Venomen: thanks
[09:38] <Rory> kostkon: He was asking about versions which no longer recieve security updates
[09:38] <Rory> woofpluf: No, did you read the security announcement?
[09:38] <kostkon> Rory, oh yeah same nick.
[09:39] <woofpluf> wtf
[09:39] <kostkon> 1st restart
[09:39] <WJB> say if i have an ubuntu server in my home network and i wanted to push it out to the internet like an icecast server or shoutcast server would i port forward on the router or something else?
[09:48] <m4rtin> hi all: I am running 12.10 headless on an arm box (with ports.ubuntu.org in apt sources). I have enabled security updates. Will this release get an update to openssl to fix the heartbleed bug?
[09:48] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu. On supported Ubuntu versions, your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[09:48] <Rory> m4rtin: in short: no. upgrade to a supported version. This is the risk of running a version that is not supported.
[09:49] <Rory> !quantal | m4rtin
[09:50] <Rory> Oh hold on m4rtin I don't know... I thought it went EOL already but it *might* still recieve updates to the end of the month
[09:50] <Rory> m4rtin: According to http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ I was wrong the first time, this *is* patched in 12.10
[09:50] <m4rtin> Rory: that's what I thought...
[09:50] <Rory> I thought it went EOL 6 months ago, my mistake
[09:51] <m4rtin> Rory: thank you; so there is no way to tell, from openssl version, whether this is correctly patched or not?
[09:51] <Rory> m4rtin: apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0
[09:51] <tsimpson> m4rtin: you can tell from the package version, not from the openssl version string
[09:52] <Rory> m4rtin: As it says on the webpage, version 1.0.1c-3ubuntu2.7 is patched
[09:52] <usr13> EOL for 12.10 is
[09:52] <usr13> April 2014
[09:52] <loopzle> Hey! After rebooting my ubuntu server last night, I got weird error messages which I believe is something to do with reading the hard disk. It takes longer to boot, but does eventually. I tried fsck on boot and also looked it up online, but couldn't get the answer. I'll get a picture of the screen up in a minute
[09:52] <Rory> usr13: Presumably EOL for 12.10 is the release day for 14.04
[09:53] <m4rtin> Rory: thank you; that's really helpful. I'm on 1.0.1c-3ubuntu2.7 so seems I'm all patched (even if it does freak me a little that it isn't version stringed)
[09:53] <OerHeks> you can do a check here http://s3.jspenguin.org/ssltest.py
[09:54] <m4rtin> OerHeks: thank you -- brilliant!
[09:54] <usr13> !smartct  loopzle
[09:55] <Mattias> So a simple upgrade on 12.04 and openssl is fixed?
[09:55] <Rory> Mattias: Yes, like every security update
[09:56] <Dry_Lips> Can anyone confirm that "create new document" is missing from the context menu (right click) in Nautilus? (3.10.1 on 14.04)
[09:56] <Rory> !trusty | Dry_Lips
[09:56] <usr13> loopzle: You might want to run:   smartct -a /dev/sda and/or  hdpram -i /dev/sda
[09:56] <Meerkat> Mattias, you also need to restart apache if that is what your using.
[09:56] <Mattias> Meerkat: nginx :)
[09:57] <Meerkat> Mattias, restart that then.
[09:57] <m4rtin> Rory and OerHeks: thank you very much; really appreciate that.
[09:57] <Mattias> But upgrade is having issues -.-   Package openssh-server is not configured yet.  <-- stuck on this
[09:57] <loopzle> usr13: alright, I'll give it a try
[09:57] <Mattias> Oh well, will configure it if that's what it wants :P
[09:58] <Rory> Mattias: Sounds unrelated, but try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install"
[09:58] <raphink> Hello
[09:58] <faqih_dan_kucing> hello guys, ready for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[09:58] <raphink> Is it possible to use multiarch specs in Build-Depends?
[09:59] <Mattias> Rory: Doesn't help, same error, and I already updated before trying to upgrade
[09:59] <raphink> like Build-Depends: libc6:i186
[09:59] <raphink> sorry
[09:59] <raphink> like Build-Depends: libc6:i386
[09:59] <Rory> Mattias: Can you put the full output from "sudo apt-get -f install" on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:59] <Mattias> dpkg: error processing openssh-server (--configure) <--
[09:59] <Mattias> Rory: Want full or is the above enough?
[09:59] <Rory> Mattias: I'd prefer full
[10:00] <Rory> Mattias: Because I have no idea otherwise XD
[10:00] <Mattias> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7220928/
[10:01] <Mattias> procps seems to fail
[10:01] <Mattias> everything seems to fail .P
[10:02] <Mattias> Sucks upgrading a live production server. luckily it's still running
[10:02] <Rory> Mattias: If you lost ssh to this machine would it be a disaster?
[10:03] <Rory> Mattias: can you try: sudo dpkg --configure procps
[10:03] <Rory> Mattias: can you try: sudo dpkg --configure procps
[10:03] <Mattias> Rory: nope, the control panel for the VPS can give me access again, will run those
[10:03] <usr13> Mattias: sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:04] <Mattias> usr13: never understood why it wanted to remove stuff I actually use
[10:05] <edulix> hi people
[10:05] <Mattias> Rory: same error as when apt-get tried to run it
[10:05] <usr13> Mattias: Sometimes you have to break some things in order to fix others.
[10:05] <ChanSavr> hi
[10:05] <edulix> are the updates for the openssl bug are already up?
[10:05] <edulix> http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/04/07/2354258/openssl-bug-allows-attackers-to-read-memory-in-64k-chunks
[10:05] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please read it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[10:05] <Thor> -.-'
[10:05] <edulix> ok
[10:06] <ChanSavr> to fix the openssl bug do I need to restart my server
[10:06] <erwin__> Does anyone have a timeline for hb in 12.04 ? When was the first time a vuln version was in the LTS?
[10:06] <Mattias> ChanSavr: No, just restarted the services using openssl
[10:06] <ikonia> ChanSavr: you need to restart any applications using the ssl library
[10:06] <Mattias> restart*
[10:06] <ikonia> ChanSavr: if you don't know how to do this, a reboot would be wise
[10:06] <erwin__> ChanSavr: Note that this might also include your MTA
[10:06] <ChanSavr> ok I'm rebooting
[10:07] <ChanSavr> i got 80% packet loss to my server
[10:07] <ChanSavr> so I barely can ssh in
[10:07] <erwin__> Let's hope it's not because it's overwhelmed with people running the exploit ;)
[10:07] <Mattias> Where can I find the log-file for procps? The service fails to start the job
[10:07] <edulix> to get the openssl fix, do I need to do apt-get update and then apt-get install openssl, or libssl1, or what pkg?
[10:08] <ChanSavr> do I have to reboot my personal computer?
[10:08] <loopzle> usr13: well it seemed to pass the "overall-health" test, it has reported a few errors that have occurred: http://pastebin.com/tncDxGrz
[10:08] <ChanSavr> erwin__: it's the shitty chinese hotel internet
[10:09] <erwin__> edulix: libssl1.0.0 is the package name in Ubuntu 12.04. Openssl is JUST the command line tools in Ubuntu (but not so in redhat for example)
[10:09] <bekks> erwin__: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[10:09] <Rory> edulix: Just install upgrades as normal
[10:09] <ChanSavr> has this been fixed in 14.04?
[10:09] <Rory> petition to get ubottu to PM that link to everyone who joins
[10:09] <bekks> ChanSavr: Yes.
[10:09] <ChanSavr> shit my ubuntu mirror lags by a week
[10:10] <ChanSavr> what version number is the patched version
[10:10] <bekks> ChanSavr: Fixes for all ubuntu releases are releasesd.
[10:10] <bekks> ChanSavr: the version number is unchanged.
[10:10] <erwin__> bekks: Yeah, there's no timeline there. I need to know when the vulnerable package was pushed to Ubuntu. I'm imaging it's not just the previous version ubntu5.11
[10:10] <ChanSavr> I need the pkg number
[10:10] <ChanSavr> as this mirror on syncs once a week
[10:10] <Rory> ChanSavr: You didn't read the link before asking more questions.
[10:10] <Rory> Nobody does.
[10:10] <Rory> It's like 400 words
[10:10] <Rory> It answers every question
[10:11] <ChanSavr> Rory: I did and it says nothing about 14.04
[10:11] <Rory> Well 14.04 isn't out yet
[10:11] <ChanSavr> and it says nothing about lagging mirrors
[10:11] <usr13> loopzle: Did you run fsck on it yet?
[10:11] <Rory> ChanSavr: It tells you the answer to "I need the pkg number"
[10:11] <ChanSavr> Rory: people are already using it like me
[10:11] <bekks> ChanSavr: Then use a non-lagging mirror.
[10:11] <usr13> loopzle: (Just because the hardware is ok, does notmean there are no filesystem errors.)
[10:11] <loopzle> usr13: yeah, but the problem is still there
[10:12] <ChanSavr> I need the package number for 14.04 which is not mentioned Rory
[10:12] <lol37> hi
[10:12] <usr13> loopzle: did fsck find/fix errors?
[10:12] <bekks> ChanSavr: The version number is unchanged.
[10:12] <ChanSavr> Rory: I actually did read the  notice
[10:12] <bekks> ChanSavr: If you did, you would know that the version number is unchanged.
[10:12] <ChanSavr> then how do I know if my 14.04 system is patched?
[10:12] <erwin__> ChanSavr: for 14.04: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/openssl
[10:12] <ChanSavr> the PACKAGE number
[10:12] <bekks> ChanSavr: By looking at the changelog for the latest package.
[10:12] <erwin__> 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 -- updated 13 hours ago
[10:13] <ChanSavr> good idea
[10:13] <usr13> loopzle: dmesg |pastebinit
[10:13] <loopzle> usr13: not sure, it was reporting those error messages whilst fsck was running too - it didn't look like it was really fixing anything
[10:13] <bekks> ChanSavr: Obvious, indeed.
[10:13] <loopzle> alright
[10:13] <lol37> i've compiled then installed vanilla version of util-linux-ng, then  the next reboot i've come upon a hang (black screen)
[10:13] <lol37> is there a fix for tha
[10:13] <ikonia> lol37: why would you do that ?
[10:13] <lol37> t
[10:13] <ikonia> lol37: and you've built the package - you fix it
[10:13] <usr13> loopzle: What command did you give  fsck ____________?
[10:13] <lol37> ok so no support here
[10:13] <bekks> lol37: Reinstall the the ubuntu package and dont do it again.
[10:14] <lol37> i dont still understand why it breaks my system
[10:14] <ikonia> lol37: I don't understand why you are doing it
[10:14] <usr13> loopzle:  And it was *not* mounted at the time.  Right?
[10:14] <loopzle> usr13: I just touch'd /forcefsck and rebooted, so whatever that does
[10:14] <lol37> for updating to the very last
[10:14] <usr13> loopzle: Oh, I see.  Well we don't know then
[10:14] <loopzle> (not sure what arguments that gives)
[10:14] <ikonia> lol37: why ?
[10:14] <usr13> loopzle: dmesg |pastebinit
[10:14] <ikonia> lol37: what's wrong with the ubuntu version ?
[10:15] <g1_> Wirless internet connection problems in certain routers. Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b/g/n wireless lan controller.  How to fix?
[10:15] <usr13> loopzle: Show us the URL
[10:15] <loopzle> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7220965/
[10:15] <lol37> so i have to get into the rescue mode right
[10:15] <loopzle> usr13: "[  276.705683] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x5 SErr 0x0 action 0x0" - it's that stuff
[10:16] <ikonia> lol37: what's wrong with the ubuntu version ?
[10:16] <lol37> and reinstall the ubuntu part of this
[10:16] <ChanSavr> http://mirrors.aliyun.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/
[10:17] <ChanSavr> great it has been updated!
[10:17]  * ChanSavr is patched
[10:18] <lol37> thank you for your  advice, i was just curious
[10:18] <erwin__> ChanSavr: Keep in mind that in theory, someone could have been snooping on your HTTP traffic since the bug was introduced. That means anything ever sent through that server, via http or https and anything the server process might have read in memory is potentially exposed.
[10:18] <lol37> ubuntu is soooo heavily  patched to not allow this
[10:19] <ikonia> lol37: what are you talking about
[10:19] <ikonia> lol37: patched to not allow this ??? who said anything about that
[10:19] <Taahl> hi there
[10:20] <g1_> usr13: Help!
[10:20] <lol37> oh in fact i'm a curious geek interested in core system operation
[10:20] <lol37> i guess ubuntu isnt the right system for me
[10:20] <ikonia> lol37: why is it not the right system for you ?
[10:20] <ChanSavr> erwin__: the server was merely a a development server and a vpn
[10:20] <bekks> lol37: then dont replace vital packages expecting not to break things.
[10:21] <ikonia> you can replace any packages if you understand what you are doing
[10:21] <ChanSavr> erwin__: possibly owned by the chinese government if anything
[10:21] <ikonia> if you are typing ./configure && make && make install blindly - you are the problem, not the distribution
[10:21] <Taahl> I've a little question for you guys, I recently setup Ubuntu13.10 on a lenovo x1 carbon and I'm surprised that I can't change mouse sensivity in the system settings app (both for the mouse and touchpad)
[10:22] <usr13> loopzle: Dono for sure.  I'd boot to a boot disk and do fsck -y
[10:22] <erwin__> ChanSavr: It's an amazing bug as it allows snop past any ssl certs with no apache-level logging. seems the only hope to find out whether someone was hitting you is netflow logs or something.
[10:23] <ChanSavr> erwin__: what can the snoop? and the going theory is the chinese government can already crack ssl.
[10:23] <ChanSavr> *they
[10:26] <erwin__> ChanSavr: It's not a SSL crack though. You don't have to be see the traffic to crack it.
[10:27] <ChanSavr> erwin__: I have no secure traffic anyway
[10:27] <erwin__> ChanSavr: If say, www.bank.com was vulnerable, you can connect to www.bank.com ssl port over and over again, ask for 64kb of random memory and get any dirty data in that server's memory. This could have been the encryption key for the traffic. it could have been the previous's user's submitted login request with their name and password. It could have been the PHP script with database login and password.
[10:27] <ChanSavr> I'm only worried about the box being owned
[10:28] <Rory> ChanSavr: This isn't a security vulnerability that end-users particularly need to worry about, it's mostly for sysadmins of public-facing SSL services
[10:28] <ChanSavr> so I'll do a reinstall soon
[10:28] <erwin__> ChanSavr: The snooping lets you read anything in the web server's memory (and by web server I mean the web server *process* not the box). That could be data that got in there via normal HTTP. The HTTPS TLS thing is just a channel into that memory
[10:29] <Rory> For example, I would expect your bank to have issued an updated certificate and upgraded their web servers
[10:29] <ChanSavr> meh
[10:29] <ChanSavr> I use an apache front end to tomcat
[10:29] <ChanSavr> apache does nothing but ssl termination
[10:29] <ChanSavr> I'm only worried about ssh
[10:29] <erwin__> If you have a multi-tier system, some of the issues are mitigated.
[10:30] <Rory> ChanSavr: Upgrade libssl and restart apache, you'll be fine. ssh is a compeltely unrelated technology
[10:30] <erwin__> ssh does not use TLS which had the problem, so ssh is fine.
[10:30] <ChanSavr> great
[10:30] <bekks> ChanSavr: then read the links given.
[10:30] <erwin__> (despite ssh using openssl the library)
[10:30] <ChanSavr> so I'm not effected
[10:30] <Mattias> I've gotten procps to run, now I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7220998/ <-- What can I do about this? openssh-server requires an older openssh-client from what is apparently installed? Bug in the package manager?
[10:30] <ChanSavr> :D
[10:31] <Rory> Mattias: If it were me, at this point I'd be considering a "sudo apt-get remove openssh-server" and then "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[10:32] <Mattias> Rory: Will give that a try :) Thanks!
[10:33] <Mattias> Rory: Ugh, it won't work, it keeps telling me to do apt-get -f install with no packages. can't uninstall anything because openssh-server is stuck somehow -.-
[10:33] <Mattias> I tried apt-get -f remove openssh-server too, but that didn't work
[10:33] <erwin__> AWS ELB were affected so, ugh, maybe anything whatsoever running on AWS which probably uses ELBs if serious has had all their data *potentially* leaked.
[10:34] <Mattias> Ugh, I'm going to have to remove ssh fully :P
[10:34] <ChanSavr> erwin__: the NSA should be able to confirm how much has been leaked
[10:34] <Rory> Mattias: Does the error occur on removing openssh-server
[10:34] <Rory> Mattias: or on reinstalling?
[10:34] <Mattias> Rory: yeah, ssh depends on it, will have to remove ssh
[10:35] <Rory> Mattias: Remove ssh, then try apt-get -f install (with no arguments)
[10:35] <Rory> Mattias: I can give that advice because you told me you have a web ui to fall back to
[10:35] <Mattias> Yeah, will have to connect through that webui before continuing I guess
[10:35] <Rory> not necessarily
[10:35] <Rory> You can run "screen"
[10:36] <Mattias> Oh? I will still stay connected?
[10:36] <Mattias> yeah, I have tmux
[10:36] <erwin__> ChanSavr: It's a dream bug for any intelligence agency. Mostly untracable.
[10:36] <Rory> Yeah that'll do Mattias, you can safely run "sudo service ssh restart" within tmux
[10:36] <ChanSavr> but one intelligence agency may be able to confirm if another exploited it
[10:36] <Rory> ChanSavr: This is getting silly now
[10:37] <ChanSavr> they should have dumps and dumps of internet traffic that they can check
[10:37] <Rory> Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[10:37] <ggb> Hello, I heard about the openssl vulnerability and I want to update it. People on the net are saying to run: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. Will this also update postgresql which has also been installed with apt-get? How can I update openssl only?
[10:37] <Rory> ggb: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libssl1.0.0
[10:37] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please read it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[10:38] <Mattias> Rory: Didn't even get disconnected, thanks :)
[10:38] <ggb> Thank you!
[10:38] <Rory> Mattias: Nice
[10:38] <Palme> hi
[10:38] <Palme> join #raspberrypi
[10:40] <Mattias> great, openssl upgraded :) nginx restarted ^.^
[10:40] <Rory> Mattias: hurrah :)
[10:40] <Rory> Mattias: Package errors...?
[10:40] <Mattias> Rory: none
[10:40] <Rory> \o/
[10:42] <tiblock> Hi. My server under ddos right now with random IPs and user agents and hosts. Any advice?
[10:42] <Mattias> Rory: Is there a way to check openssl version? The other server apparently had no upgrades..
[10:43] <Rory> tiblock: /join #networking
[10:43] <Mattias> oh, openssl version
[10:43] <tiblock> Rory, okay, thank you
[10:43] <Mattias> tried everything but that.. "openssl --version" etc :P
[10:43] <Rory> Mattias: apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0
[10:43] <Rory> Mattias: That will show you the package version, which is the important part. The OpenSSL version doesn't change, but the specific Ubuntu package version does
[10:44] <b0bbytables> Also what's a safe version of openssl.
[10:44] <Rory> b0bbytables: Any version here http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[10:44] <erwin__> If you want to be extra sure, there's an online testing tool here: http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/
[10:44] <Mattias> Thanks :)
[10:45] <b0bbytables> Rory: what about standard repo vers?
[10:45] <Rory> b0bbytables: Did you read the page?
[10:45] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please read it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[10:45] <b0bbytables> Oh. Odd ver # not changing. That's what kept me freaked
[10:45] <Rory> b0bbytables: the package version number changes
[10:46] <Rory> b0bbytables: And the description of the update, which you presumably read, explains the update fixes that bug
[10:46] <gain> hi
[10:46] <Rory> Hello gain
[10:47] <Rory> Are you here to ask about ssl?
[10:47] <gain> no... y?
[10:47] <b0bbytables> Ah. Just saw 1.0.1 not 1.0.1g and freaked.
[10:47] <b0bbytables> Cool
[10:47] <kostkon> gain, nothing :P
[10:47] <Rory> gain: lol just wndering
[10:48] <gain> I'm here because I dev some php webapps, and I've found msession functions not works on standard lamp environment based on ubuntu 12.04
[10:49] <gain> so I'm wondering how I can verify if the php packaged in repos was built with msession support...
[10:49] <gain> is there the config file anywhere?
[10:49] <ikonia> gain: use the phpinfo
[10:49] <ikonia> it will show the build options of the php binary
[10:49] <gain> ikonia: thanks for the hint :D
[10:51] <kostkon> ubottu, give cookie to ubottu
[10:51] <jjavaholic> how can I test my install of Xserver-xorg?
[10:52] <Keanu73> !commands
[10:52] <Keanu73> !help
[10:55] <moreno> reno
[10:58] <Rory> That happened, and nobody will ever know why
[11:01] <ShabaDabaDoo>  I want to have a dock/bar across all 3 screens that shows all of the applications open on that screen only. Any suggestions for desktop environment?
[11:03] <uplc> uplcuser
[11:04] <uplc> uplcuser
[11:04] <uplc> hiiii
[11:08] <NightKhaos> I'm having an issue with libvirt and creating snapshots. When I try and create a live snapshot of a KVM instance I get: error: internal error: unable to execute QEMU command 'transaction': Could not open '/var/lib/libvirt/images/blocksoc.qcow2': Permission denied
[11:09] <NightKhaos> The premissions are definately not an issue as I have tried this after changing the premissions of the blocksoc.qcow2 image to 666.
[11:10] <NightKhaos> The closest I have found to finding someone else with this issue is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1096125
[11:10] <CatKiller> Not sure whether it is OT or not
[11:11] <CatKiller> but what about that OpenSSL vulnerability in heartbeat that allows anybody you're connected to to read your *memory*?
[11:11] <CatKiller> Has Ubuntu said anything about releasing some urgent fix?
[11:11] <NightKhaos> They already have.
[11:11] <NightKhaos> For both 12.04 Precise and 13.10 Sausy.
[11:11] <CatKiller> I just ran "sudo apt-get install openssl" and I got a new version from March 14
[11:11] <NightKhaos> I patched them... oh 8 hours ago now on my boxes.
[11:11] <NightKhaos> apt-get update?
[11:12] <CatKiller> does that include the fix? According to OpenSSL version 1.0.1g is OK but I still have 1.0.1 March 14
[11:12] <CatKiller> NightKhaos: Of course, sorry forgot that
[11:12] <CatKiller> I wonder how openssl let such a bug happen
[11:13] <CatKiller> NightKhaos: On 12.04.3 LTS
[11:13] <CatKiller> I ran "apt-get update"
[11:13] <CatKiller> "apt-get install openssl"
[11:13] <CatKiller> and it's at version: OpenSSOpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[11:13] <NightKhaos> CatKiller: get the precise version number.
[11:14] <CatKiller> NightKhaos: Of openssl?
[11:14] <NightKhaos> Yes.
[11:14] <CatKiller> openssl version
[11:14] <CatKiller> OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[11:15] <chrono> http://heartbleed.com/
[11:15] <chrono> best dox on it
[11:15] <chrono> about openssl
[11:16] <NightKhaos> CatKiller: dpkg-query -s openssl
[11:16] <NightKhaos> CatKiller: this gives me 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[11:17] <CatKiller> NightKhaos, Version: 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[11:17] <NightKhaos> CatKiller: good and note: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[11:17] <NightKhaos> CatKiller: what is the second CVE they patched?
[11:18] <CatKiller> NightKhaos: Cool, so that's the latest version. It's kinda confusing when you run "openssl version" you still get the same version and it says "built in 2012"
[11:18] <CatKiller> which is obviously not correct
[11:18] <NightKhaos> CatKiller: I know. *shrugs*
[11:18] <Slaizer> Hi, I am using manjaro linux and can not sync my files in Ubuntu one, though I used to be able to sync them. I am logged in to my ubuntuone account, for sure. Anyone may help me out
[11:18] <CatKiller> Sorry, it says it's the 2012 March version built in Jan 2014 ;)
[11:18] <CatKiller> Even more confusing
[11:18] <CatKiller> NightKhaos: Thanks a lot for your help!
[11:21] <rcw2> what can linux tell me about a phone device that I can connect to my laptop?  can it tell me if the phone has wifi capabilities, for instance?
[11:22] <ooxi> Hi, is Ubuntu 10.04 not vulnerable to the openssl bug (because openssl is too old) or just not fixed (not listed as affected on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/)
[11:22] <ooxi> And another question: are only connected connections vulnerable (for example https traffic) or also unconnected (like people trying ssh but have no credentials)?
[11:24] <Touhou11> ooxi: The version in 10.04 is too old to be vulnerable
[11:24] <Touhou11> ooxi: The bug doesn't affect openSSL 0.9.8
[11:24] <erwin__> ooxi: the issue was found in openssl 1.0.1 upwards
[11:25] <ooxi> thank's that's what i thought, just wanted to be sure!
[11:26] <erwin__> ooxi: The vulnerability is that if you allow TLS, a user can connect via TLS to your webserver and see a random bit of memory inside the web server process. SSH does not use TLS. You cannot read data from other processes. There's also no exploit, but anything the server may have in memory -- encryption keys, php scripts with passwords, any other traffic -- whether http or https -- may be readable
[11:26] <vlt> Hello. Is Firefox browser or Chromium vulnerable on Ubuntu machines with openssl 1.0.1?
[11:26] <vlt> Or what client side software is vulnerable?
[11:27] <Touhou11> vlt: Are you running a web server?
[11:27] <vlt> Touhou11: Not on the machines with openssl 1.0.1.
[11:27] <erwin__> vlt: Chromium does not use openSSL for TLS -- unless you run Android
[11:28] <vlt> erwin__: Thank you. What about firefox or thunderbird?
[11:28] <NightKhaos> Okay I'm going to try disbaling the AppArmor profile for libvirt.
[11:29] <erwin__> vlt: Apparently it uses something called NSS instead. As for Firefox, I don't know. But yes, the vulnerability runs both ways.
[11:29] <erwin__> vlt: So in theory, if you use Firefox to connect to a HTTPS server that is evil, it could be using the same method to read your Firefox' memory. That *seems* far fetched to me.
[11:30] <erwin__> vlt: Do you have a reason NOT to upgrade?
[11:30] <NightKhaos> Okay that worked.
[11:31] <lol37> i'm back
[11:31] <BlitzHere> Hi all, need a quick bit of advice. I have a semi broken 320GB portable external hard drive. It believe it has taken a fall. SMART self test fails, quick format on windows works but there are plenty of freeezes and file corruption errors. My goal is to recover as much usable space on this drive as possible.  I'm trying to use badblocks but it's taking FAR too long
[11:31] <BlitzHere> What's would be the right parameters
[11:31] <lol37> i couldn't remove util-linux so i manually downloaded that package from ubuntu repository and then installed it with dpkg
[11:32] <lol37> still no luck
[11:32] <lol37> i'm in rescue mode with modified grub launch parameters
[11:33] <BlitzHere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7221167/
[11:33] <BlitzHere> This si what I'm looking at right now
[11:33] <BlitzHere> It got till 12.69% fine and then got stuck
[11:33] <lol37> ubuntu won't load desktop if using ro instead of rw
[11:33] <BlitzHere> 0.01% took 24 hours
[11:33] <lol37> some filesystem won't mount too
[11:34] <bekks> BlitzHere: then you have to wait.
[11:34] <vlt> erwin__: No, I ran the updates on all machines. But I have to decide whether to install some of the systems completely new if there WAS a vulnerability also from the "inside" (like firefox connecting to compromised sites).
[11:35] <BlitzHere> bekks: I'm willing to run it for a couple of weeks, but this is taking FAR too long. I was wondering if I can run badblocks with different settings that'll make it faster
[11:36] <Touhou11> vlt: If you think the server was vulnerable before you patched, an option is to request new Certificates from the CA
[11:37] <erwin__> vlt: for the client side, your client would have to have connected to a site that was malicious. right now there are no reports of someone having such sites around before the release
[11:38] <recovery> I have a bootmanager called DRBL, what is the boot parameter of ubuntu to get recovery mode?
[11:38] <erwin__> vlt: in such a case, the malicious site could be reading bits of your firefox memory, but there's no exploit possible beyond the reading of random memory
[11:40] <NeoThermic|Work> I hae a server running Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS, but I seem unable to get it to spot the OpenSSL update of today. http://pastebin.com/aF2x7Jmj those are my sources.list, any ideas on why apt-get doesn't want to work?
[11:40] <CatKiller> So people at openssl seem to say that openSSL is poorly written, not far off GnuTLS
[11:40] <valent> hello, yes I'm also here to ask if ubuntu 12.04 has fix for openssl hearbleed bug :)
[11:41] <CatKiller> So you have the choice between horrible security holes or horrendous security holes
[11:41] <erwin__> See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ for what package versions you SHOULD have
[11:41] <CatKiller> dpkg-query -s openssl|grep Version
[11:41] <CatKiller> Version: 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[11:41] <CatKiller> That's the one that has the fix
[11:41] <valent> is openssl 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12 patched for hearbleed issu?
[11:41] <interweb> Where is .bashrc file for fish shell ?
[11:42] <CatKiller> You can run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssl" should update
[11:42] <erwin__> valent: Yes, as per the website, 5.12 is the correct secure version for Ubuntu ** 12.04 **
[11:42] <valent> CatKiller: thanks
[11:42] <CatKiller> valent: according to this it is: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[11:45] <NeoThermic|Work> CatKiller: that command seemed to have worked, but openssl version -a shows the build date as jan 8th still.
[11:46] <CatKiller> NeoThermic|Work: I know it's completely confusing
[11:47] <CatKiller> NeoThermic|Work: I can't tell for sure whether it has installed correctly
[11:47] <CatKiller> NeoThermic|Work: Somebody here told me it was OK, but can't guarantee it
[11:48] <Slaizer> hi, I can't sync my files, though I am logged in. Can anyone help out?
[11:48] <Touhou11> Slaizer: How do you mean "sync" - what method?
[11:48] <NeoThermic|Work> CatKiller: do dpkg -l | grep openssl
[11:49] <NeoThermic|Work> see if that says 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12 for openssl?
[11:49] <ra123445555> through command line how to connect to wifi in linux
[11:49] <ra123445555> wifi with security
[11:49] <CatKiller> NeoThermic|Work: Then that should be the correct version but I'm not good enough with dpkg to be sure
[11:49] <Slaizer> Touhou11, Using ubuntuone client, and can't sync there, though I am logged in.
[11:50] <lucido> is there A working parental control system with a gui?
[11:50] <bekks> CatKiller: If it shows thath version, everything is ok.
[11:50] <Slaizer> Touhou11, "file sync error. (auth failed (AUTH_FAILED)). So what to do?
[11:50] <CatKiller> bekks: I *think* so, at least on 12.04
[11:51] <Joshun> hi
[11:51] <bekks> CatKiller: Did you cheeck with the command given?
[11:51] <bekks> *check
[11:51] <Joshun> anyone know if it is possible to chroot into ubuntu 14.04 in ubuntu 13.10?
[11:52] <bekks> Joshun: Yes, it is possible.
[11:52] <Touhou11> Slaizer: Not sure, I don't use Ubuntu One. It's being shut down by the way: https://one.ubuntu.com/services/shutdown/
[11:52] <Joshun> bekks: would it work? the software is compiled against newer libraries etc.
[11:52] <bekks> Joshun: A chroot is selfcontained.
[11:52] <bekks> Joshun: It does not use libs outside of the chroot.
[11:53] <Slaizer> Touhou11, OK, that is probably the cause. Thanks, have a nice day now.
[11:55] <Touhou11> Slaizer: It's not shutdown yet, so won't be the cause. But probably worth moving away from Ubuntu One service onto an alternate in preparation for the closure
[11:55] <justin_________> can you resinstall ubuntu without loosing your /home/ data?
[11:56] <bekks> justin_________: If /home is on a separate partition, yes. If you have a backup, yes.
[11:58] <justin_________> ta
[11:59] <ice9> why does packaging for fixes happen faster in debian than ubuntu?
[12:00] <Joshun> bekks - thanks, I wonder if it will let me run a cups server within it
[12:01] <bekks> Joshun: why dont you run cups on 13.10?
[12:01] <rcw2> what can linux tell me about a phone device that I can connect to my laptop?  can it tell me if the phone has wifi capabilities, for instance?
[12:02] <Joshun> bekks: because there is an annyoing bug with pdf filters that isn't going to be backported
[12:02] <jjavaholic> how can I debug redraw high CPU usage errors?
[12:02] <bekks> Joshun: It would be more easy to just run a 14.04 vm.
[12:03] <Joshun> bekks probably not given the extra resources that would require
[12:05] <bekks> Joshun: then you dont even have the resources to run a chroot ;)
[12:06] <Joshun> bekks - a vm would require emulating the hardware etc. since kvm doesn't work
[12:06] <bekks> Joshun: So your computer is really old then?
[12:06] <Joshun> bekks not that old just not brilliant spec
[12:07] <bekks> Joshun: The last time I've seen a kvm-incapable computer was a decade ago.
[12:07] <Joshun> it requires certain processor extensions to work
[12:08] <bekks> Joshun: Which CPU do you have exactly?
[12:14] <Joshun> bekks: 	Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU E1400
[12:15] <bekks> Joshun: It's enough for running a 32bit vm.
[12:18] <VLanX> any help restoring grub after installing windows 7 ?
[12:23] <hazardous> i have a potentially stupid question
[12:23] <hazardous> what is the key combination to get into a bash prompt of any kind
[12:23] <dannixon__> hazardous no question is stupid.
[12:23] <hazardous> from initial boot
[12:24] <hazardous> i need to do it in one try, without screwing up, or this machien will not boot again
[12:24] <hazardous> http://i.imgur.com/mP9kWZB.png
[12:24] <vlt> ervin_: Thank you.  Do you think it is possible to run an attack against a vulnerable host in JavaScript?
[12:25] <dannixon__> hazardous Shoudln't you get such an option before reaching that screen?
[12:25] <hazardous> i don't have access to anything before that screen, it's pxe booted
[12:25] <hazardous> need to dd/rescue a last remaining drive
[12:26] <jjavaholic> could anyone be so helpful as you talk me through diagnosing high CPU usage on window redraws
[12:26] <erwin__> vlt: Not sure what you mean by that.
[12:27] <erwin__> vlt: the attack requires a complex OpenSSL handshake. The exploit i have uses Python. I'm not sure any websocket or similar technologies are up for duplicating such a low-level network connection
[12:28] <hazardous> vlt: it is probably possible in node.js
[12:28] <hazardous> not really in client side js, assuming you're talking what i think you are based on context clues
[12:31] <BigMao> Hi there, I just ran "apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade" in response to the recently discovered OpenSSL bug.  However, when I run "openssl version" it still shows "OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012".
[12:31] <BigMao> How can I make sure that I'm actually using the updated version of the library?
[12:31] <vlt> BigMao: -a
[12:31] <StephenS> lmao
[12:31] <BigMao> vlt, -a to what?
[12:32] <StephenS> everybody are afraid of openssl's heartbleed nowadays
[12:32] <vlt> BigMao: To the command you gave.
[12:32] <BigMao> Ah, I see.  Yeah, it says built on april 7.
[12:32] <BigMao> It makes sense to update the libraries now that the vulnerability is common knowledge
[12:32] <bekks> BigMao: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[12:32] <StephenS>  
[12:32] <StephenS> openssl version -a
[12:32] <StephenS> OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
[12:33] <bekks> StephenS: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[12:33] <BigMao> I'll restart my machine in the morning
[12:33] <BigMao> though the package upgrade seems to have restarted the services anyway
[12:33] <Jpmh> so, why does the build from this week show an old version?
[12:34] <bekks> Jpmh: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ ;)
[12:34] <vlt> erwin__, hazardous: Exactly that, thank you. I still have to decide how many of our systems *could* *in theory* be compromised.
[12:34] <darius93> Question, why on kubuntu when I select the amd proprietary gpu drivers that upon restarting and logging in that the gpu drivers crash and fallback to opensource (or no drivers?) until I enable compisiting via commandline and reload using kwin --replace?
[12:34] <vlt> hazardous: If running malicious JS code in Firefox should not be able to run such an exploit I’m fine. :-)
[12:35] <StephenS> bekks why do you paste that to me?
[12:35] <StephenS> Can't you see I have 1.0.1e?
[12:35] <StephenS> I already have libssl1.0.0 updated.
[12:35] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please read it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[12:35] <bekks> StephenS: there was no version bump in that update.
[12:35] <StephenS> libssl1.0.0 is already the newest version.
[12:35] <bekks> StephenS: Read the link please.
[12:36] <diea> Hello, does anyone know how to show the ipv6 flags using "ifconfig" ? On OSX for example you get "autoconf temporary" or "duplicate" ... on ubuntu I can only see the IP and "Global"
[12:36] <aliensbrah> Rory, after further research into that issue I was asking about yesterday, it looks like it's just an issue with ubuntu and most linux distros in general, I'm hoping it's been addressed in 14.04
[12:37] <StephenS> so sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should fix it bekks ?
[12:37] <bekks> StephenS: Please read the link ;)
[12:37] <edbacon> Hello, got 2 monitors plugged in the display is duplicated with only 1 resolution avaliable how can i fix this please 13:10
[12:37] <StephenS> bekks I did
[12:37] <StephenS> and that is what they say
[12:37] <chipotle_> hi, i have an AWS m3.medium that i need to optimize using php5-fpm. any suggestions for a guide/doc that will walk me through the various settings of php.ini so i can optimize it for performance?
[12:37] <Rory> aliensbrah: There are many different desktop environments available, KDE is very customisable and can almost certainly be set up exactly how you like
[12:37] <Rory> chipotle_: You've joined #ubuntu instead of #php
[12:38] <edbacon> I have scanned every forum, help and documentation tried wha ti seam to think everything now am at breaking point (not at installing windows point)
[12:38] <bekks> StephenS: Then it will be the way they say it will be, will it? :)
[12:38] <chipotle_> Rory: no one has knowledge of this here? i'm running on ubuntu
[12:38] <edbacon> chipotle_: I will help you
[12:38] <edbacon> You want to optimize php.ini for preformance
[12:38] <Rory> It's not that nobody has knowledge, chipotle_, I mean, I have knowledge of balloon modelling, but this isn't the place
[12:39] <edbacon> You have to go to #php
[12:39] <edbacon> Far to crazzy for this
[12:39] <StephenS> bekks am I wrong?
[12:39] <edbacon> Can anyone help me with my monitor issue :(
[12:39] <Rory> StephenS: apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0 | grep Installed
[12:39] <edbacon> Nvdia Optimus is killing me :(
[12:39] <Rory> StephenS: What is the output?
[12:39] <StephenS> Installed: 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2
[12:40] <zx42o> is there any way to install libdb4.8++-dev on ubuntu 12.04
[12:40] <Rory> StephenS: And what Ubuntu version are you running?
[12:41] <StephenS> 13.10
[12:41] <Rory> StephenS: Now, look at the page you've been linked to ( http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ ) scroll down to "The problem can be corrected by updating your system to the following package version:"
[12:41] <Rory> StephenS: What is the package version listed under Ubuntu 13.10?
[12:41] <StephenS> ...?
[12:42] <Rory> StephenS: Read the link
[12:42] <StephenS> libssl1.0.0 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2 ?
[12:42] <Rory> StephenS: You already have the update
[12:42] <StephenS> Yes
[12:42] <StephenS> so why he sent me that link?
[12:42] <edbacon> Can anyone help me with my monitor issue :(
[12:42] <StephenS> I already pasted my output
[12:43] <Rory> StephenS: Because the answer is available to you, and your brain on that page
[12:44] <edbacon> Does anyone know how to sort out Nvidia Optimus so that i can have 2 montiors and more than 1 res?
[12:44] <rcw2> what can ubuntu tell me about a phone device that I can connect to my laptop?  can it tell me if the phone has wifi capabilities, for instance?
[12:45] <Rory> rcw2: If you run "lsusb -v" you can see a lot of info on each USB device, but possibly not exactly what you're asking about
[12:45] <Rory> rcw2: It could tell you if the phone currently has USB tethering enabled, for instance, but it won't tell you if the phone has wifi or not
[12:45] <rcw2> Rory, ive used lsusb, is that all there is available?
[12:46] <Rory> Well the phone doesn't send that information over USB, so yes sadly
[12:46] <rcw2> hm
[12:50] <martinpauleve> Hi all, I'm having a problem with getting a triple-head, dual-gpu setup working. I have 2x Nvidia GTX480s. With nouveau driver, xrandr --listproviders sees both. Using nvidia driver, it only lists 1 provider. I think this may be because the driver lacks the "Source Output capability". Might this work if I set one device to use modesetting as driver in xordgconf?
[12:50] <zx42o> !help
[12:51] <zx42o> !patience
[12:52] <Voyage> how to restart x kde ?
[12:53] <rigo> can i ask how this with "do-release-update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" works? the kernel 3.14 is since march 31th downloadable from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but the dist upgrade upgrades only to 3.13.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Voyage: killall -u $USER    will end all processes your user has and you will need to login (this includes X)
[12:53] <rigo> does this need some approval or how?
[12:53] <HusTler> kk
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> rigo: the kernel from the mainline PPA isn't supported here, the kernel packages will not be installed as the kernel you have installed is newer than the meta package
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> rigo: if you remove the 3rd party kernel and upgrade it will pull in the newer kernel
[12:55] <zx42o> getting this error message in ubuntu 12.04..   E: Package 'libdb4.8++-dev' has no installation candidate
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> !find libdb4.8++-dev
[12:56] <zx42o> is there a way to manually download and install the deb file
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> rigo: if you start adding 3rd party stuff to your OS don't be surprised if you get issues
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> zx42o: sure, use:   sudo dpkg -i filename.deb    and it will install
[12:56] <zx42o> cool thanks
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> !find libdb
[12:57] <rigo> i just wanted to know how it works.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> rigo: how what works?
[12:57] <zx42o> o cool thanks, ill see if libdb5.1++-dev works
[12:58] <rigo> the 3.14 stable alpha whatever is there. but dist-upgrade upgrades only to 3.13
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> rigo: how does installing a kernel and then using the OS on top of it "seeing how it works"
[12:59] <zx42o> any suggestions on this error message?   /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_system-mgw46-mt-s-1_50
[12:59] <zx42o> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_filesystem-mgw46-mt-s-1_50
[12:59] <zx42o> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_program_options-mgw46-mt-s-1_50
[12:59] <zx42o> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_thread-mgw46-mt-s-1_50
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> zx42o: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[13:00] <zx42o> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[13:01] <Rory> zx42o: What are you trying to install?
[13:01] <rigo> ActionParsnip: so it must be tested a while i see (i tought a tested errorfree version is called "alpha" or "final" so not an RCx)
[13:01] <zx42o> trying to compile a cryptocurrency wallet, zccoin
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> rigo: we cannot support kernels outside of the official ubuntu repos here. I sugest you contact the PPA maintainer
[13:01] <Rory> rigo: It usually goes alpha->beta->rc->final
[13:01] <ubuNoob> i have been trying for days now to install ubuntu and no luck so am going to use  vm instead any drawbacks i should know?
[13:02] <Rory> zx42o: Using which instructions?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: running 2 OSes at the same time uses more resources. I suggest a light DE like XFCE or LXDE
[13:03] <rigo> i tought kernel.ubuntu.com is a kind of an official source :)
[13:03] <zx42o> there is an included txt file, i am unable to install one of the dependencies libdb4.8++-dev, and libdb5.1++-dev doesnt seem to fix the problem
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> rigo: no
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> rigo: it is outside the official ubuntu repos used by apt-get in a default install
[13:03] <Rory> zx42o: Could you give me a link to the file?
[13:03] <rigo> ok ok :)
[13:04] <zx42o> https://github.com/zccoin/zccoin
[13:05] <Rory> zx42o: This file? https://github.com/zccoin/zccoin/blob/master/doc/build-unix.txt
[13:05] <rigo> this is what i wanted to know actually. so if i dont need additional troubles i should stick to dist-upgrade only.
[13:05] <Rory> zx42o: sudo apt-get install libdb4.8-dev
[13:06] <Rory> zx42o: That might be it?
[13:06] <zx42o> same error message
[13:07] <ubuNoob> ActionParsnip my issue is that i am trying to install 13.10 via a usb but i am getting this option "install ubuntu INSIDE windows 7" i dont want it inside
[13:08] <Rory> ubuNoob: Are you turning your computer off, inserting the USB drive, turning your computer on, and setting your computer's BIOS to boot from the USB instead of the hard drive?
[13:08] <ubuNoob> ActionParsnip  also when i chose the "somethine else" option i didnt get "free space" which is might to refer to the 80GB partition space i created
[13:08] <Rory> ubuNoob: Are you sure it doesn't say "Install ubuntu ALONGSIDE Windows 7" ?
[13:08] <ubuNoob> Rory i restart the pc. when it boots up I hit F12 and then choose USB
[13:09] <Rory> OK that's right I was just checking
[13:09] <ubuNoob> Rory i can read bro and it says INSIDE
[13:09] <Rory> Can you take a screenshot?
[13:09] <ubuNoob> all the youtube videoes says ALONGSIDE
[13:09] <ubuNoob> in my case its INSIDE
[13:09] <Rory> Where did you get Ubuntu?
[13:09] <ubuNoob> from the ubuntu
[13:10] <Rory> You can go to "something else" and create a new ext4 partition in the free space
[13:10] <Rory> mark it as formatting to ext4, and set the mount point to /
[13:10] <ubuNoob> downloaded the image, download Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.2 choose the image choose my 8GB USB
[13:10] <Rory> But first, check the integrity of your USB install media using the option from the first boot menu (install ubuntu/ try ubuntu... etc)
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: 13.10 doesnt have much suport left at all, a few weeks
[13:11] <ice9> if I need to upgrade an application for security fix but it's package is not ready yet in the repo, what should I do, install it from source? but then how do I keep tracking with recent versions in future?
[13:11] <Rory> ActionParsnip: You may as well download 14.04 at this point
[13:11] <Rory> ubuNoob: ^
[13:11] <Rory> ice9: What package are you referring to?
[13:11] <ubuNoob> ActionParsnip should i try Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[13:12] <ubuNoob> instead
[13:12] <ice9> Rory: openssl
[13:12] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please read it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[13:13] <demoz> ubuNoob have you tried http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ :) ?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: if you want, I'd go for 14.04, it has 2 years support on 12.04
[13:13] <ubuNoob> ActionParsnip 14.04 isnt out yet
[13:14] <Rory> ubuNoob: 14.04 comes out in a matter of days, it's ready for prime-time IMO. I've been using it on my work laptop for a couple of weeks
[13:14] <Rory> ubuNoob: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ grab trusty-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: it is, in pre-release
[13:15] <ubuNoob> will try 14.04
[13:15] <ubuNoob> which link is for a 64 bits pc
[13:15] <Rory> ubuNoob: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:15] <ubuNoob> Rory "trusty-desktop-amd64.iso   "
[13:15] <Rory> That's a direct download link ^
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> assuming 64bit cpu
[13:16] <Rory> yes assuming that
[13:16] <Rory> A safe assumption to be quite honest
[13:16] <ubuNoob> i use a 64 bits :p
[13:17] <gdoteof_phone> I am on 12.04 and suddenly when i try and boot, after the ubuntu splash, but before the login gui, it hangs
[13:17] <gdoteof_phone> I can still access everythibg in recovery mode
[13:18] <Rory> gdoteof_phone: Did you recently install or update a graphics card driver?
[13:18] <gdoteof_phone> Or if i hit esc during the splash, i get a shell login
[13:18] <gdoteof_phone> Rory i didnt.. Unless an update all did it
[13:18] <Rory> gdoteof_phone: Can you boot sucesfully from an older kernel version, which can be acceessed from the Grub boot menu?
[13:19] <Rory> speling
[13:19] <gdoteof_phone> Rory, no.  Same thing
[13:19] <Rory> !nomodeset | gdoteof_phone Can you try this?
[13:19] <zx42o> hey i fixed my problem by applying the following solution: http://pw999.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/compiling-memecoin-qt-on-xubuntu/
[13:19] <zx42o> thank you for your help rory and actionparnsip
[13:19] <gdoteof_phone> Ubottu i will try right now
[13:20] <Rory> Oh nice fix zx42o do you understand it?
[13:20] <ubuNoob> how stupid are you ubottu
[13:20] <Rory> ubuNoob: You leave ubottu alone he aint never done no harm to nobody
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: ubottu is a bot, so quite stupid as she only responds to triggers
[13:21] <ubuNoob> Rory lol
[13:21] <Rory> What was that different flood-bot I saw earlier muting people?
[13:21] <ice9> Rory: the current version is 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1 but the fix is in 1.0.1g
[13:21] <Rory> ice9: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:22] <ice9> rory 13.10
[13:22] <zx42o> not completely, but as far as i understand is the qmake file was looking for a specific version of lboost and the fix removed those specific version links
[13:22] <Rory> ice9: The page says you need      1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2
[13:22] <Rory> ice9: You didn't even read the page.
[13:22] <Rory> Literally nobody has read the link I give them
[13:22] <Rory> I'm stopping now.
[13:22] <ubuNoob> Rory taking a while for it to download
[13:23] <Rory> ubuNoob: It should be around 700mb the download
[13:23] <ice9> rory I read but on the other bug page it said the fix is in the 1.0.1g version so it makes some confusion
[13:23] <aliensbrah> will there be any major changes between the 14.04 current beta
[13:23] <aliensbrah> and the release in a ~week
[13:23] <Rory> ice9: This version is packaged by the Ubuntu maintainers and isn't related to the upstream OpenSSL version
[13:24] <Rory> ice9: The fix is implemented by the Ubuntu maintainers and released as a security patch
[13:24] <gdoteof_phone> Rory that drops me straight to a tty login
[13:24] <zx42o> just out of curiousity is there any kind of tip jar for the help that is provided in this room?
[13:24] <ice9> thanks Rory
[13:24] <gdoteof_phone> The nomodeset param, tgat is
[13:24] <Rory> 1RorymEBnYC8dHifAwT8yRhbBduyMeKs6 is hungry for coins
[13:24] <amirchandrapady> hi rory how are you?
[13:24] <Pici> zx42o: nope,
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> zx42o: you are patient and courteous, that's all we need :)
[13:24] <Rory> gdoteof_phone: You say you can access recovery mode okay, can yuo perform a system update from there?
[13:25] <amirchandrapady> hi pici
[13:25] <ubuNoob> http://oi59.tinypic.com/152n9k0.jpg
[13:25] <amirchandrapady> jnl
[13:25] <Rory> ubuNoob: Providing you shut your Windows down properly, when you boot from your new Ubuntu install flash drive, one of the installation options should be to install Ubuntu into the free space on the drive
[13:26] <amirchandrapady> hi rory how are you//this is amir
[13:26] <ubuNoob> Rory install ALONGSIDE?
[13:26] <gdoteof_phone> Doing an update now.  Rory, ya i can get to a shhell no problem
[13:27] <Pici> amirchandrapady: Is there a support question we could help you with? If not, then offtopic chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: if you are using WIn7 or later, you can resize NTFS in Windows then boot to the install media and put the new Ubuntu install in the new free space
[13:27] <Rory> ubuNoob: Well there should be an option to install into the free space on the drive; I'm not sure what the exact wording is because I don't use that option myself
[13:28] <Rory> ubuNoob: It should be fairly apparent though
[13:28] <amirchandrapady> when ubuntu 14.04 will release?
[13:28] <ubuNoob> ActionParsnip if u look in the link i have created a 80GB for ubuntu
[13:28] <simiant> hi guys, can I make a script run when USB hardware gets plugged in?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: ok, is it unpartitioned?
[13:29] <Pici> amirchandrapady: sometime on the 17th
[13:29] <ubuNoob> ActionParsnip its "unlocated"
[13:29] <amirchandrapady> ok fine pici..
[13:29] <ubuNoob> ActionParsnip i shrink it from my c drive
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: ok cool, have you ran a chkdsk on the other partitions to make sure they are ok?
[13:30] <ubuNoob> chkdsk?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: yes, its a WIndows command....
[13:30] <amirchandrapady> hi...i am using 13.10 but wireless is not working... but my system having wireless driver
[13:30] <ubuNoob> nope i havent please can you help me do that if you dont mind
[13:31] <ubuNoob> ActionParsnip http://www.w7forums.com/threads/how-to-use-chkdsk-check-disk.448/
[13:31] <simiant> amirchandrapady, what card what drivers?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: yes
[13:31] <gdoteof_phone> Rory, system update complete.  Upon restart, same thing
[13:31] <simiant> guys how do I get a script to run when I plug in a USB etwork card?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: it checks disk health and consistancy
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuNoob: useful to do after a resize
[13:32] <simiant> !bot
[13:32] <simiant> !usb autorun
[13:32] <amirchandrapady> is there possible install ubuntu os on android mobile?
[13:33] <ubuNoob> ActionParsnip 2 mins will log into my mini laptop
[13:33] <simiant> amirchandrapady, what is your actual networking problem?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> amirchandrapady: try in #ubuntu-touch  or #ubuntu-mobile
[13:33] <gdoteof> Rory: so i am on my wonky ubuntu laptop right now.  if i press esc while splash screen hapepns, i get a tty login prompt, and all my files are here
[13:34] <gdoteof> i can connect to internet fine ... just no GUI
[13:34] <Rory> gdoteof: can you run: startx
[13:34] <simiant> !usb
[13:34] <simiant> !usbscript
[13:34] <gdoteof> Rory: yeah i tried that but it fails: /usr/bin/X not found   .. can't connect to server
[13:35] <ubuNoob> need to wait for the 14.04 download to finish
[13:35] <slide> Does anyone how to get OpenSSL 1.0.1g for 12.04?
[13:35] <Rory> gdoteof: /usr/bin/X not found... what did you do lol?
[13:35] <simiant> !usbauto
[13:35] <Pici> !msgthebot | simiant
[13:35] <simiant> oh sorry
[13:35] <Rory> gdoteof: You sure you don't know what changed between "it working" and "it not working", it's okay if you broke it, nobody's going to tell you off
[13:36] <gdoteof> Rory: umm.. idk.  i actually just assumed that startx was deprecated.  yeah i really don't know.  i was doing the same thing i do everyday
[13:36] <gdoteof> dick around on the internet -> run code, break it, iterate
[13:37] <gdoteof> i do have a docker running, but it's a docker i created that knows nothing about X
[13:37] <Pici> simiant: We don't have a 1.0.1g package for 12.04. 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12 will likely provide the fix you are looking for. (see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ )
[13:38] <gdoteof> recently i have plugged in a projector.  and i have been running p2pool; but i have gone through a couple restarts since tha thappened
[13:38] <Rory> gdoteof: Hmm, that's most odd. Can you try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"
[13:38] <slide> Pici, hrm, either one of the other sysadmins already updated or we've had that version installed for a while
[13:38] <Rory> I'm not sure if that will pull in missing dependencies or not though
[13:39] <Pici> slide: it was only built 17 hours ago, so likely the former.
[13:39] <gdoteof> Rory: hah.  sick!  totally worked
[13:39] <gdoteof> idk how the f i removed that
[13:39] <simiant> Pici, uhhh... thats not what im looking for. vpn runs on my router... i need to run a script when i plug in a USB network card...?
[13:39] <slide> k
[13:40] <k1l> slide: ubuntu doesnt upgrade the version but removes the bug in the used version. (called patching)
[13:40] <slide> thanks
[13:40] <gdoteof> Rory: thanks.  what's your btc tip address
[13:40] <k1l> slide: the bug is closed since yesterday
[13:41] <simiant> Pici, im looking at /udev here but i get the impression that is for scripts running on mounted partitions, ie USB storage?
[13:41] <Rory> gdoteof: I don't think I want to set a precident for btc tips really
[13:41] <Rory> I was only half-joking earlier
[13:41] <simiant> ActionParsnip, can I be put in your persona care queue?
[13:42] <Rory> mm, ActionParsnip's personal care
[13:42] <simiant> or Rory
[13:42] <simiant> lol
[13:42] <Rory> I should do actual paid work now
[13:42] <simiant> CAPITALIST SCUM!
[13:43] <ubuNoob> Rory i download UNbootin. I am usign "diskimage" now i have this text field "space used to preserce files across reboots(ubuntu only): how many MB should i enter?
[13:43] <gdoteof> i think i got disconnected.  Rory: thanks.  my trackpad suddenly doesn't work anymore but everything else seems good.  really appreciate it.  can you resend your 1Rory
[13:43] <simiant> ubuNoob, u should do an "install ubuntu" and not a persistent live installation imho
[13:43] <fool> Installation is failing when it gets to GRUB because I'm installing on RAID, how can I tell grub to install on /dev/sdf1 instead of /dev/sda
[13:44] <fool> from the ash shell
[13:44] <ubuNoob> simaint what?
[13:44] <simiant> fool, i suspect you need to load the appropriate raid driver before starting your install / partitioning process
[13:45] <simiant> ubuNoob, just burn ubuntu to a dvd and install from there. ie do a real installation and not a persistent live installation..?
[13:45] <fool> simiant I'm installing from a mini.iso, how would I do that?
[13:45] <simiant> pffft i dont even know what that is fool
[13:45] <ubuNoob> simaint i only have a usb
[13:45] <fool> Sorry, minimal Ubuntu (30mb I so)
[13:46] <ubuNoob> simiant what dvd size do i need? will go buy one
[13:46] <simiant> fool, o i c. so use a CD instead?
[13:46] <fool> Ok
[13:46] <simiant> ubuNoob, how big is the ubuntu ISO? about that big
[13:46] <simiant> fool, u need to load the raid drivers BEFORE you partition / install?
[13:47] <simiant> fool, i am guessing your RAID controller is newish?
[13:48] <fool> I don't think so, its 7 years old
[13:48] <fool> Downloading the full CD image, let's see what happens
[13:48] <simiant> hrmmmm. ok cuz my raid was recognized auto and it is from 08-09 in ubuntu 12.04 LTS server
[13:49] <simiant> can someone help me run a script automatically when I plug in a USB network adapter?
[13:49] <gdoteof> is this chat logged?
[13:49] <simiant> gdoteof, prolly
[13:49] <tddy> ive installed luks on /dev/sda2 mapped to /dev/crypt1 and then an lvm partition vg1-lv1 on it, mapped to /dev/mapper/vg1-lv1. however, boot fails with evms_activate not available. Any hints?
[13:50] <Rory> gdoteof: Yes, publicly http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[13:50] <simiant> tddy what version of ubutnu?
[13:50] <tddy> tddy: 13.10
[13:50] <tddy> simiant: 13.10
[13:50] <simiant> tddy, cuz i believe luks is undergoing changes as of 13.04?
[13:51] <simiant> tddy, where is your boot partition?
[13:51] <tddy> simiant: okay, boot is at /dev/sda1 (not encrypted)
[13:53] <simiant> tddy, im not clear here. your system partition is in fact encrypted or no? how about swap?
[13:54] <tddy> simiant: system partition on /dev/mapper/vg1-lv1 is encrypted. swap is at /dev/mapper/vg1-lv2, also encrypted (vg1 is located at /dev/crypt1 which is encrypted)
[13:54] <tddy> simiant: meaning vg1 is not encrypted :)
[13:55] <simiant> tddy, im not to familiar with vgl... is this for a bootstick or a hardriver?
[13:56] <simiant> tddy, on my encryted systems I use an extended partition, then a luks partition, then the system partition...
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> howto change homepage in webbrowser-app?
[13:57] <tddy> simiant: let me try again - /dev/sda2 is encrypted with luks and mapped to /dev/crypt1. then a volume group is created on /dev/crypt1 with two lvms, vg1-lv1 (system) and vg1-lv2 (swap). this is on the harddrive
[13:58] <tddy> simiant: maybe i should put encryption on the lvm instead
[13:59] <simiant> tddy, yes exactly
[13:59] <simiant> tddy, that is what i would try first.
[13:59] <tddy> simiant: guess so. i'll give it a shot. thanks
[14:00] <simiant> tddy, good luck
[14:00] <simiant> tddy, what youre trying will work, ive done it dozens of times
[14:02] <tddy> yes!
[14:09] <Th0mas> I'm running 12.04.4 server and I don't get the openssl update after running apt-get update+upgrade, does anyone know why?
[14:09] <gdoteof> tip sent, thanks for the help Rory
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Th0mas: try reinstalling the package, if there is an updgrade you will only upgrade that package
[14:09] <simiant> Pici, just read the news.. got your referene
[14:09] <simiant> reference
[14:10] <rww> Th0mas: what's the version listed in the output of apt-cache policy openssl?
[14:11] <Th0mas> rww: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7221740/
[14:11] <richen> hey
[14:12] <rww> Th0mas: that version has the fix backported, per http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[14:12] <richen> i cant configure ssh for my vm could anone help me
[14:12] <Th0mas> rww: Ah alright! openssl version gives this though: OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012, that date worried me
[14:13] <rww> Th0mas: Yep. Ubuntu, like many distros, prefers to pull security patches from newer versions and apply them to whatever's currently in the repositories. Less chance of introducing new bugs/API changes that way.
[14:13] <Th0mas> Ah, but with -a it gives "built on: Mon Apr  7 20:33:29 UTC 2014" :)
[14:13] <rww> :)
[14:13] <Th0mas> rww: Right, understandable
[14:13] <richen> i started open ssl but my guest vm is on qemu
[14:14] <hggdh> Th0mas: fpr security updates, it is always a good idea to read the changelog
[14:17] <saemchou> Greetings to all
[14:18] <darkangel> Hey i was just wondering if you use a Daily Build of Ubuntu would you be able to keep upgrading while they work on it or would u need to Upgrade to another Daily Build to get the next version up?
[14:20] <rww> darkangel: you can keep upgrading
[14:20] <MannerMan> darkangel, Just update it with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade - it will stay on the latest version
[14:20] <darkangel> ok... thank u kindly
[14:25] <quem> hm, when i enter a command in unity (after pressing), does it not follow my PATH?
[14:31] <Rory> quem: Only if you alt+f2 instead of [super]
[14:41] <Pici> EyePulp: that is the patched version. see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[14:41] <kostkon> EyePulp, your current openssl just got patched , it didn't get updated to the latest version.
[14:42] <martinpauleve> Hi all, I have 2x Nvidia GTX480s. With nouveau driver, xrandr --listproviders sees both. Using nvidia driver, it only lists 1 provider. Some more details here: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/725101/linux/xrandr-only-detects-one-card-2-x-gtx480-triple-head-linux-mint-16-/ Any help truly appreciated.
[14:44] <EyePulp> kostkon/Pici Ah - so apt-get update  && apt-get install openssl would suffice?
[14:44] <kostkon> EyePulp, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade i guess
[14:45] <Pici> EyePulp: yes... but you said that you are alerady on the patched version.
[14:45] <Pici> er, nm. I misread. Just check with apt-cache policy or openssl version -a
[14:46] <kostkon> EyePulp, there is also a security update for openssh, unrelated to heartbleed though
[14:48] <EyePulp> gotcha
[14:49] <i_am_good> yoyo, i am installing ubuntu server and getting "grub install failed /dev/sdf fatal error"
[14:50] <lovetruth> hello!...
[14:50] <lovetruth> after installing fglrx driver, my PC starts now in few minutes
[14:50] <lovetruth> before it was up and running in few seconds and now... 2:20 minutes!...
[14:50] <lovetruth> what can I do?...
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> lovetruth: run:  dmesg | less       read the times on the right, look for large gaps in time. the value is the number of seconds since the kernel came up
[14:51] <lovetruth> saw one
[14:51] <lovetruth> of about 2 minutes
[14:51] <lovetruth> actually, in /var/log/syslog
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> lovetruth: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> lovetruth: its a single line of output so no need to pastebin
[14:53] <lovetruth> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[14:54] <eaglecage> :0
[14:54] <ccq42> how do i make naked ascii in terminal
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> ccq42: do you mean naked girl images?
[14:55] <ccq42> yes...
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> ccq42: jp2a
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> !info jp2a
[14:56] <ccq42> thanks.
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ccq42: guess how I found that....
[14:56] <ccq42> huh
[14:56] <lovetruth> by large gaps you mean not 0.81 and 0.91 , right?...
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> lovetruth: that's 0.1 seconds
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> lovetruth: so no
[14:57] <kinygos> hi, is this an appropriate channel to ask about installing python 3.3.5 on ubuntu 12.04?
[14:57] <lovetruth> ok... one (little) gap...
[14:57] <cfhowlett> kinygos ask
[14:57] <lovetruth> [    2.388868] EXT4-fs (sda5): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) [   10.370578] Adding 5858300k swap on /dev/sda6.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:5858300k
[14:58] <lovetruth> then one big gap
[14:58] <lovetruth> which paste bin site u use?
[14:58] <kostkon> lovetruth, paste.ubuntu.com
[14:59] <kinygos> i've downloaded the tar from python.org, and if i configure the makefile with --enable-shared, i get an import error whenever i try to run the interpreter...if i don't use that switch, the interpreter runs fine
[14:59] <lovetruth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7221933/
[14:59] <kinygos> the problem is, i'm subsequently trying to install a python package which needs that library (libpython3.3m.so.1.0)
[14:59] <somsip> kinygos: may be worth looking at the deadsnakes PPA rather than compile from source, but PPAs are not really recommended or supported here https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/deadsnakes
[15:00] <DefunctProcess> is there a ubuntu server channel?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !server|DefunctProcess
[15:00] <DefunctProcess> ty
[15:02] <kinygos> somsip: thank you for the suggestion, i'll have a look
[15:02] <somsip> kinygos: np
[15:02] <ccq42> how to remove unity from ubuntu 12.04 and install windows theme on it
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !nounity|ccq42
[15:02] <MannerMan> ccq42, install Lubuntu directly
[15:03] <MannerMan> ccq42, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/windows-xp-theme-lubuntu
[15:03] <kinygos> somsip: ah, i need python 3.3.5 and there's no ppa for it
[15:03] <lovetruth> ActionParsnip: any hint?...
[15:03] <ccq42> k
[15:03] <Pici> kinygos: the deadsnakes ppa has it.
[15:04] <somsip> kinygos: ^^^ I defer
[15:04] <Voziv> How long does it generally take for ubuntu to update a package (namely openssl at the moment)
[15:04] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please *read* it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[15:05] <kinygos> Pici, somsip, apologies...i'm not counting 3's correctly
[15:06] <Voziv> Rory: thanks
[15:06] <lovetruth> it seems to be fglrx
[15:06] <lovetruth> what can I do?... is there any /fastgui option on grub or something?...
[15:06] <lovetruth> also... one more question... :)
[15:06] <lovetruth> can I change the order or NICs in Ubuntu?...
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> lovetruth: all I can suggest is report a bug. I assume you used the default repo fglrx
[15:07] <eaglecage> too many questionj
[15:07] <lovetruth> like, I need some Wine software to recognise the NICs in some other order
[15:07] <lovetruth> yes, ActionParsnip
[15:07] <lovetruth> the default
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> lovetruth: if you have a 2xxx 3xxx or 4xxx ATi GPU you will want the legacy PPA for teh driver
[15:07] <lovetruth> from 10 seconds to 2:20 minutes is horrible :)
[15:07] <lovetruth> I have radeon HD 6700
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> lovetruth: check for bugs
[15:08] <lovetruth> thanks, I'll see... :)
[15:08] <lovetruth> also...
[15:08] <lovetruth> can I change the order or NICs in Ubuntu?...
[15:09] <lovetruth> I added some "virtual NIC" using ip li add link eth0 newnic0
[15:09] <lovetruth> and I need it to be seen first by wine (meaning by linux, sure) ... :)
[15:09] <OerHeks> lovetruth, maybe this page is any help > http://muzso.hu/2012/10/29/how-to-regenerate-the-etc-udev-rules.d-70-persistent-net.rules-file-on-debian-ubuntu
[15:09] <eaglecage> ubuntu is good system,but i cant use it very well
[15:10] <lovetruth> OerHeks: that under root?...
[15:10] <sydneyJDykstra> If I install lubuntu trusy right now on a old computer,will I have to reinstall when it officially comes out,if not how?
[15:10] <kostkon> eaglecage, learning takes time
[15:10] <cfhowlett> eaglecage suggest you study?
[15:10] <OerHeks> lovetruth, fastest way is to remove that 70 file and setup again
[15:10] <lovetruth> did that OerHeks
[15:10] <cfhowlett> !final|sydneyJDykstra
[15:10] <kostkon> eaglecage, all you need is patience
[15:10] <lovetruth> but couldn't find my virtual adapter in the 70 file
[15:11] <d0x> Hi, is there a way to configure my xserver that it lisitnes to :0 and :20?
[15:11] <eaglecage> yes  i will thanks
[15:11] <d0x> both should be visible at the same "display"
[15:11] <sudormrf> I am working with incron and I have a couple of questions.  last night I added IN_NO_LOOP and told it to ignore *.!sync files (using rsync --exclude).  however after the transfer completed and the .!sync extension was dropped, incron didn't do what it was supposed to do.  my assumption is that because there was nothing that happened to trigger inotify, incron didn't do what it was supposed to do.  correct?
[15:12] <lovetruth> tried even with Virtualbox's virtualNIC adapter. It doesn't appear in 70-persistent
[15:13] <guest183> hi ppl
[15:14] <kostkon> guest183, hi
[15:14] <Rory> You can set a more friendly nickname with the "/nick" command - for example to change my name to Rory I typed "/nick Rory" (without the quotes)
[15:15] <ccq42> do i get honey in honeypot?
[15:15] <sudormrf> OerHeks, any idea?
[15:17] <ccq42> (18:15:33) ccq42: do i get honey in honeypot?
[15:17] <j4son> yes
[15:18] <mjuszczak> what's the best way to do an apt-get upgrade dry run, so I would just see what would be upgraded but it doesn't actiualy upgrade?
[15:18] <ccq42> then how to setup honeypot now?
[15:19] <kostkon> mjuszczak, man apt-get
[15:21] <Pici> ccq42: Please rephrase your question.
[15:21] <mjuszczak> kostkon: I looked through that, didn't see a dry run option
[15:21] <mjuszczak> oh, it's -s -- missed that.  Thanks.
[15:22] <sudormrf> I am working with incron and I have a couple of questions.  last night I added IN_NO_LOOP and told it to ignore *.!sync files (using rsync --exclude).  however after the transfer completed and the .!sync extension was dropped, incron didn't do what it was supposed to do.  my assumption is that because there was nothing that happened to trigger inotify, incron didn't do what it was supposed to do.  correct?
[15:22] <ccq42> "How to setup honeypot on ubuntu"
[15:22] <sudormrf> ccq42, google.com
[15:22] <sudormrf> :P
[15:22] <granger1> hi !
[15:23] <ccq42> thank you....
[15:23] <sudormrf> ccq42, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=setup+honeypot+ubuntu
[15:23] <SchrodingersScat> !google | sudormrf
[15:23] <lovetruth> so noone?...
[15:23] <sudormrf> the question itself is a bit esoteric SchrodingersScat, but I agree
[15:24] <ccq42> Oh why thank you.
[15:24] <SchrodingersScat> ccq42: there's kippo, but if you're not well versed then drawing attension to yourself might be a bad idea
[15:24] <squaregoldfish> I'm having issues with a hotel Wifi setup. I can connect to the network fine, but can't get out of the 192.168 network. Anyone got any suggestions for what I could try?
[15:24] <ccq42> Alright
[15:24] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, could he/she not use an IPS/IDS for this?
[15:25] <sudormrf> squaregoldfish, what do you mean you can't get out? like you can't access the internet?
[15:25] <squaregoldfish> sudormorf: Yes. Can't ping anything outside. Other guests are just fine.
[15:26] <lovetruth> c'mon...
[15:26] <aliensbrah> it's using DHCP?
[15:26] <sudormrf> squaregoldfish, is this thing using some sort of captive portal?
[15:27] <squaregoldfish> Nope. Just a WPA password.
[15:27] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: worth mentioning a risk, and idk how each of those honeypot daemons have been tested for vulnerabilities, etc.
[15:28] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, I agree.  was just curious if an IDS/IPS could also provide a honeypot.
[15:28] <squaregoldfish> I get my IP address, Gateway & DNS are set to 192.168.1.1. All DNS lookups fail instantly.
[15:29] <sudormrf> squaregoldfish, try changing your DNS to OpenDNS, see what happens
[15:29] <sudormrf> ccq42, what is your goal with this honeypot?
[15:30] <squaregoldfish> sudormrf: I'll try that, but I'm not optimistic since I can't ping any IP address outside the hotel network.
[15:30] <sudormrf> ccq42, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-an-artillery-honeypot-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[15:30] <kostkon> squaregoldfish, or google's dns  8.8.8.8
[15:30] <sudormrf> kostkon, because everyone wants google to know everything about them all the time ;P
[15:31] <kostkon> sudormrf, it's just that the ip is vvery easy to remember
[15:31] <nvll> Hi, I have ugly scrollbar in google chrome. Is it possible to use system scrollbar in google chrome?
[15:31] <nvll> My system is xubuntu 13.10
[15:31] <sudormrf> kostkon, I don't disagree
[15:32] <kostkon> nvll, chrome now uses it's own widget toolkit so i'm guessing no
[15:32] <kostkon> sudormrf, :P
[15:32] <squaregoldfish> sudormrf kostkon: Thanks - I'll try them when I get back to the hotel.
[15:32] <sudormrf> squaregoldfish, how many other clients were connecting to the wifi?
[15:33] <sudormrf> ccq42, if your goal is testing honeypot stuff, kali has things built in. http://ultimatepeter.com/honeypot-honeyd-tutorial-part-1-getting-started/
[15:33] <ccq42> thanks
[15:33] <ccq42> now i gotta go
[15:34] <squaregoldfish> sudormrf: I don't know for sure, but it's a small hotel - I don't think it would be enough to cause problems.
[15:34] <squaregoldfish> Can't be more than 50 rooms in the place.
[15:34] <sudormrf> squaregoldfish, you said "other clients are working fine", by that I was assuming you had another computer or something that you were working with.  is this not true?
[15:35] <squaregoldfish> Oh, no. I just know a couple of other guests in the hotel. Plus no-one has reported issues to reception.
[15:37] <squaregoldfish> I could borrow their machines & check out their settings, but I don't want to hassle them if I can avoid it.
[15:37] <mjuszczak> So with that new libssl vulnerability, are folks really re-generating their keys?
[15:37] <danielbw> jesus what a clusterfuck
[15:37] <danielbw> oops wrong chan
[15:38] <danielbw> I'm going
[15:38] <danielbw> KDE development keys for git will have to be re-generated, too?
[15:41] <sudormrf> squaregoldfish, are you the property manager or something?
[15:43] <Stryker13X> remote unlock possible?
[15:44] <Rory> mjuszczak: Yes, it's safer to assume you were compromised, rather than hope you weren't
[15:44] <Rory> mjuszczak: It's expensive and annoying but there you go.
[15:44] <SchrodingersScat> !details | Stryker13X
[15:44] <Stryker13X> false positive deny access safety audit in order lex
[15:44] <Rory> danielbw: No, this is to do with https connections not ssh rsa keys
[15:45] <Rory> Stryker13X: test
[15:45] <JediMaster> Stryker13X, speak like yoda do you, are bot you?
[15:45] <Stryker13X> Rory network test F+ then safety application T or F after audit F+
[15:45] <Rory> Stryker13X: markov chains, hmm?
[15:46] <Stryker13X> no bot just bert
[15:47] <Stryker13X> Rory, that will be considered 100% fail test and reference as game app
[15:47] <Pici> Stryker13X: please start making sense or you will find yourself outside of the channel.
[15:48] <kostkon> Stryker13X, you are auditing an ubuntu system and getting what i assume are false positives or something?
[15:48] <Rory> Stryker13X: Do you have another language you prefer to speak in?
[15:49] <Stryker13X> I'm a DOS programmer and a old timer please forgive me
[15:50] <Rory> Stryker13X: Can you explain your problem in enough detail that allows someone to provide an answer?
[15:50] <mjuszczak> Rory: so that means re-generating public/private keys for SSH but also keys for SSL certs?
[15:50] <Rory> mjuszczak: SSH keys have nothing to do with it
[15:50] <ikonia> Malsasa: forget ssh
[15:50] <bytemask> anyone know if there's a patch for mod_ssl in apache2
[15:50] <ikonia> oops mjuszczak forget ssh
[15:50] <Rory> mjuszczak: You ought to recreate SSL certs depending on who you are
[15:50] <Stryker13X> No I can't sorry
[15:50] <Rory> mjuszczak: If it's just for some personal site it probably doesn't matter
[15:50] <Rory> Stryker13X: Then nobody can help obviously.
[15:51] <Rory> mjuszczak: If you are a bank, one would hope you'd done it already
[15:51] <pikaren> has the openssl package in ubuntu been up-to-date
[15:51] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please *read* it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[15:51] <Lihis> Should the /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm file be empty if RTC wakeup is disabled in BIOS?
[15:51] <mjuszczak> Rory: Oh, right.
[15:52] <Rory> For all the fuss people are making, this only impacts sysadmins of public facing web servers running HTTPS, and holding sensitive info
[15:52] <Rory> It doesn't affect my desktop at home, for instance
[15:52] <sudormrf> I am working with incron and I have a couple of questions.  last night I added IN_NO_LOOP and told it to ignore *.!sync files (using rsync --exclude).  however after the transfer completed and the .!sync extension was dropped, incron didn't do what it was supposed to do.  my assumption is that because there was nothing that happened to trigger inotify, incron didn't do what it was supposed to do.  correct?
[15:53] <mjuszczak> Rory: For some reason I was having a brain fart and thinking this affected OpenSSH as well.
[15:55] <poopuser> lovetruth: xrandr -q doesn't work but I assume it's LVDS1, I will give that a go
[15:56] <poopuser> lovetruth: same shit : 'can't open display'.
[15:56] <mjuszczak> Rory: This isn't just if we used a vulnreable version of openssl to create the CSR and keys.  It's also if we've been running a vulnerable version in production with a publicly accessible https://, correct?
[15:56] <lovetruth> default?
[15:56] <Rory> mjuszczak: Correct sadly
[15:56] <subz3r0> hi
[15:57] <hydrozen> im guessing the question is coming up all the time today, but if I’m running a 12.04 LTS server, should I update my openssl version manually or should I just wait for Ubuntu to update openssl in the package manager?
[15:57] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please *read* it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[15:57] <poopuser> lovetruth: default?
[15:57] <lovetruth> --output default
[15:57] <lovetruth> or init 6 (graphical interface runlevel)
[15:57] <mjuszczak> thank you
[15:58] <poopuser> No, I've used --output LVDS1, should I type 'default' instead ?
[15:58] <poopuser> lovetruth: LVDS1 is the default in the netbook.
[15:58] <subz3r0> having some issues with my usb stick(3.0) on ubuntu 14.04. its starts copying files with ~150MBs and  slows down it then to 7-10MBs. so i checked for usb3 kernel module, but cant find it loaded. here some specs
[15:58] <subz3r0> http://pastebin.com/eU8B6eXx
[15:58] <subz3r0> any sugestions?
[15:59] <lovetruth> poopuser: you want to get to a browser?
[15:59] <lovetruth> why not lynx?
[16:00] <lovetruth> like apt-get install lynx
[16:00] <lovetruth> http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/changing-xserver-res-from-tty1.67511/ might explain
[16:00] <poopuser> lovetruth: it's not quie handy to be honest.
[16:01] <lovetruth> if I recall right,  I wasn't able to change the display mode from another tty1, unless I just changed the xorg configuration
[16:01] <lovetruth> then I did init 6
[16:02] <JediMaster> is it normal in a do-release-upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 to get zombie processes slowly accumulating? Also for it to stop dead on things like updating mysql.cnf file on a mysql server installation with no databases in for 10 minutes before carrying on?
[16:02] <poopuser> lovetruth: is there one? I thought it's automatic at the moment.
[16:02] <JediMaster> server load is 0.2 or so, no I/O, no io wait etc.
[16:02] <JediMaster> do-release-upgrade has been sitting for nearly 10 minutes at: Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/rpcbind ...
[16:03] <poopuser> lovetruth: can you tell me to command to generate config file?
[16:04] <lovetruth> which linux you're using?
[16:04] <benzrf> halp
[16:04] <JediMaster> I can see a bunch of nrpe, mkdir and sshd <defunct> processes in ps
[16:04] <Rory> benzrf: Be more specific
[16:04] <benzrf> i apt-get updated/upgraded, but `openssl version` still replies 1.0.1e
[16:04] <benzrf> ??
[16:04] <poopuser> lovetruth: Xorg -config fails...
[16:04] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has already been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please *read* it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[16:04] <benzrf> do i need to restart
[16:04] <Rory> benzrf: You didn't read the page
[16:04] <benzrf> Rory: ah
[16:04] <benzrf> kk
[16:04] <benzrf> thank you :)
[16:04] <Rory> benzrf: It doesn't affect the upstream version of openssl, only the Ubuntu package version
[16:04] <JediMaster> Rory, that is exactly why I'm upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10 right now
[16:04] <benzrf> i just googled and found out that there was a patch
[16:04] <subz3r0> no1 an idea about mit usb3 issue? :>
[16:04] <benzrf> not that it wouldn't affect the version number >.>
[16:04] <benzrf> my bad
[16:05] <Rory> JediMaster: 13.10 loses support in a few days bear in mind
[16:05] <lovetruth> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:05] <benzrf> sorry for being the 100th timewaster in your day today
[16:05] <JediMaster> Rory, It lost it a few weeks ago already
[16:05] <lovetruth> but depends on your linux version
[16:05] <benzrf> i wish you luck helping more people with bad reading skills
[16:05] <Rory> Oh
[16:05] <benzrf> :-)
[16:05] <JediMaster> oh wait, 13.10?
[16:05] <Rory> Yeah
[16:05] <JediMaster> Rory, thought you meant 13.04
[16:05] <JediMaster> really, that soon?
[16:05] <Rory> No, 13.10 will lose support when 14.04 comes out
[16:05] <Rory> I think so
[16:05] <pikaren> really?
[16:05] <Rory> Oh wait
[16:05] <poopuser> Wheey, here I come.
[16:05] <lovetruth> startx works? poopuser ?
[16:05] <Rory> No, I'm getting confused with 13.04
[16:06] <pikaren> microsoft still supports XP afaik
[16:06] <JediMaster> great, that's going to be fun, another tonne of do-release-upgrades that fail to work =/
[16:06] <Stryker13X> JediMaster: may be trying to color code your processes such as "zombie" as "black and orange" processes.
[16:06] <Rory> I really really ought to print a chart out and stick it on my cubicle or something
[16:06] <Pici> 13.10 loses support in July. Not april,.
[16:06] <Rory> I mess up on EOL dates / supported versions multiple times a day
[16:06] <JediMaster> ok, that's not so bad
[16:06] <JediMaster> we were planning on going on the LTS 14.04 in a month or two after release anyway
[16:07] <Rory> JediMaster: A good plan (being on LTS)
[16:07] <peskyrat> Hey
[16:07] <SchrodingersScat> hey
[16:08] <peskyrat> Hey JediMaster SchrodingersScat Pici Stryker13X
[16:09] <Ub0ne> how do you upgrade ubuntu 12.04 to the next version? download new iso from website or update inside the distro itself
[16:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Ub0ne: There are 3 ways
[16:09] <danielbw> dang i am lucky
[16:09] <danielbw> all my servers are running the o.9.8 branch of libssl
[16:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Ub0ne: (A) Use the update manager.
[16:09] <danielbw> 0.9.8
[16:09] <DJones> !upgrade | Ub0ne
[16:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Ub0ne: (B) run [ do-release-upgrade ]
[16:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Ub0ne: (C) Use a 12.10 live image.
[16:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Ub0ne: Although if you wait a week you can upgrade directly to 14.04
[16:10] <Stryker13X> Hello peskyrat.
[16:10] <mitsos> 14.04 is out!?
[16:10] <SonikkuAmerica> mitsos: What? Where'd you hear that?
[16:10] <SchrodingersScat> mitsos: I think on the 17th
[16:11] <mitsos> oh
[16:11] <SonikkuAmerica> mitsos: Yeah, the 17th.
[16:11] <DJones> Ub0ne: From 12.04, you're probably best waiting untl 14.04 is releaeed in a couple of weeks
[16:11] <mitsos> nice
[16:11] <SonikkuAmerica> DJones: *a week
[16:11] <[Gentoo]> i always thought the 14 was the day
[16:11] <[Gentoo]> and the 4 the month
[16:11] <SonikkuAmerica> [Gentoo]: YY/MM
[16:11] <[Gentoo]> ah ok
[16:11] <mitsos> is it going to be lighter than the 13.10? because my notebook has really slow ram
[16:11] <Kevinzz> Hello... I can't start firefox without sudo...I get Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible.
[16:11] <mitsos> and low
[16:11] <Kevinzz> I did mess around in the .mozilla folder
[16:11] <DJones> [Gentoo]: 17th is official release date.....subject to late bugs etc
[16:11] <[Gentoo]> mitsos: you want some other de than unity
[16:12] <SonikkuAmerica> mitsos: If you're concerned about light-weightiness try Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[16:12] <[Gentoo]> if your tight on resources
[16:12] <mitsos> i am
[16:12] <mitsos> i am using Xubuntu
[16:12] <[Gentoo]> mitsos: the "lightness" is 99% determined by the DE
[16:12] <[Gentoo]> so newer version prob wont be any different
[16:12] <mitsos> oh... ok
[16:12] <SonikkuAmerica> mitsos: Xubuntu is eventually importing XFCE 4.11 in preparation for XFCE's GTK+ 3 rewrite IIRC
[16:13] <mitsos> oh nice
[16:13] <mitsos> my RAM is 1GB do you think Lubuntu will be better?!
[16:13] <[Gentoo]> mitsos: if your current system is still slow you can get a bit lighter than xfce
[16:13] <[Gentoo]> mitsos: yeah
[16:13] <[Gentoo]> lubuntu is less ram
[16:13] <[Gentoo]> but
[16:13] <SchrodingersScat> Kevinzz: is it possible you were playing around as root and messed with your .mozilla permissions?  check if it's readable by your user/other permission questions
[16:14] <[Gentoo]> 1GB isnt THAT bad
[16:14] <mitsos> oh...
[16:14] <Ub0ne> i have heard nice things about lubintu
[16:14] <SonikkuAmerica> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ - from my buddy slee
[16:14] <pw98> hey, just seen this issue with open ssl, i'm running ubuntu 13.10 and I run dpkg-query -l openssl which is version 1.0.1e, I run apt-get update and then run apt-get update install but the version is the same, I guess the new openssl  which was released yesterday has not been added to repositys yet?
[16:14] <SchrodingersScat> pw98: i think they said there would be no version change, just an update
[16:14] <mitsos> amm can i change the terminator language on ubuntu?
[16:14] <Pici> pw98: it has. 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2 fixes the issue. See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[16:15] <Ub0ne> mitsos old pc with ~300mb ram i think it was = lubuntu ok
[16:15] <mitsos> thank you
[16:15] <pw98> ah ok thanks, just when i was reading the heartbleed bug website it menitoned that it  1.0.1 to f was effected so wanted to double check
[16:16] <Jpmh> pw98: its there and out - look at the build date od what you are running rather than the release
[16:16] <mitsos> What is Linux Arch!?
[16:16] <[Gentoo]> pw98: security fixes can be proted into same version
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> !arch
[16:16] <sudormrf> I am working with incron and I have a couple of questions.  last night I added IN_NO_LOOP and told it to ignore *.!sync files (using rsync --exclude).  however after the transfer completed and the .!sync extension was dropped, incron didn't do what it was supposed to do.  my assumption is that because there was nothing that happened to trigger inotify, incron didn't do what it was supposed to do.  correct?
[16:16] <[Gentoo]> mitsos: if you mean "Arch Linux" its another distro
[16:16] <cfhowlett> mitsos not supported here
[16:16] <mitsos> oh
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> mitsos: Try #archlinux
[16:16] <pw98> root@OAE:/# openssl version
[16:16] <pw98> OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
[16:16] <monkwitdafunk> hi ubuntu channel
[16:17] <pw98> which is what made me question it.
[16:17] <mitsos> thank you i am new in ubuntu chats...
[16:17] <mitsos> sorry about that
[16:17] <monkwitdafunk> how can i contribute to hardware compatability
[16:17] <[Gentoo]> mitsos: distrowatch is a website with info of a load of distros
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !contribute|monkwitdafunk
[16:17] <Ub0ne> mitsos dont try #archlinux, you might get violated
[16:17] <sudormrf> [Gentoo], are you familiar with inotify-tools?
[16:18] <mitsos> why?
[16:18] <sudormrf> actually, brb
[16:18] <[Gentoo]> sudormrf: no
[16:18] <Pici> pw98: thats the version, if you look at openssl version -a you can look at the buld date or just look at apt-cache policy openssl
[16:18] <monkwitdafunk> yeah. i just want to tell users if 14.04 is compatable with my systems
[16:18] <ryan_turner|MTW> Will it be a good idea to update a server from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04?
[16:18] <ryan_turner|MTW> vs wipe & reinstall
[16:18] <mitsos> Ub0ne why i might get violated?!
[16:19] <pw98> ah thnks Pici  :D
[16:19] <[Gentoo]> mitsos: you wont
[16:19] <cfhowlett> ryan_turner|MTW after official release?  syes
[16:19] <Pici> Ub0ne, mitsos: please take this elsewhere, #ubuntu is not the place for this.
[16:19] <mitsos> oh ok
[16:19] <[Gentoo]> they used to have a pretty cocky attitude in #archlinux but theyre ok
[16:19] <JediMaster> 20 something minutes waiting for do-release-upgrade on the following line: Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/rpcbind ...
[16:19] <ryan_turner|MTW> cfhowlett, so updating servers works well?
[16:19] <mitsos> Ok i am sorry Pici
[16:19] <JediMaster> And now 41 zombie processes
[16:19] <mitsos> thank you guys for the info!
[16:20] <Ub0ne> mitsos Archlinux is DoItYourSelf type of linux and its generally for experienced users, people in their irc dont really like noobs like me, so i have heard
[16:20] <cfhowlett> ryan_turner|MTW better advice is in #ubuntu-server
[16:22] <pikaren> Gentoo is cooler
[16:22] <sudormrf> back
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> pikaren: deends on needs, Id say xpud was coler :)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> cooler
[16:23] <sudormrf> hey guys.  quick question about incron.  Suppose I only want it to perform its action after things are done in the folder that it is watching.  would IN_CLOSE_WRITE be the best mask to use?  To provide more background, I am using btsync to backup phone photos and I want all of those photos moved to another folder not connected with btsync, but last time I tried this it was crashing the system because of excessive rsync processes.
[16:23] <sudormrf> I wasn't using IN_CLOSE_WRITE.  I was using different masks that were copying in real time.  Ideally I would like it to wait until all tasks on the folder are complete, then perform the rsync.  Am I looking in the right place
[16:24] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: not sure, it's like a torrent transfer and I'm not certain how well that works with incron
[16:26] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, to provide more background, while a file is being sync'd btsync appends a !sync extension to the file.  with incron I am using rsync.  I told it to exclude *.!sync files then tested out the sync.  after the sync completed, nothing happened.  files were not transferred.  I am thinking this is because the changing of the extension did not trigger an inotify event.  would you agree?
[16:26] <sammy> anyone have any selinux experience? out of nowhere I'm getting avc denied messages left and right, and this is even after I use setenforce to disable (right?) selinux policy enforcing :(
[16:26] <obiwan2> hola
[16:26] <|PiP|> anyone know where to go to set up a "blackhole" type email server?
[16:27] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: I would assume similar.
[16:29] <Stryker13X> nice cypher hole, thanks...
[16:30] <monkwitdafunk> hi users. i have the option of installing the 3.5.x kernel for amd64
[16:30] <monkwitdafunk> i have ubuntu alternate
[16:32] <CapsAdmn> how can i reconfigure the alt key? (ubuntu 13)
[16:32] <CapsAdmn> it brings the start menu thing up
[16:36] <RFleming> Greetings and other salutations!
[16:36] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, ok.  so I suppose I can remove the exclusion and work from there.  What I am not sure of is how IN_CLOSE_WRITE may treat these files.  It seems like it should do what I am trying to accomplish, but it may not.  Was having a real problem with it "looping" and crashing the server.  IN_NO_LOOP looks like it solves that problem, so now I just need to get it to do the other part of what I want it to do and I should be
[16:36] <sudormrf> good :D
[16:36] <Stryker13X> Is there anyone who can help with false positive references coming at me?
[16:36] <larsadin> Good morning, when upgrading OpenSSL via apt-get update -> apt-get dist-upgrade, it lists openssl1.0.1-4ubuntu5.11, the upgrade proceeds to run successfully but even after a full reboot "openssl version" still shows "OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012" Is this to be expected?
[16:37] <Stryker13X> may be royalty freeze?
[16:38] <RFleming> larsadin, the version number won't change if a patch is applied.
[16:38] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: yeah, I would have thought so as well, makes me think it's the nature of how btsync transfers the files, i could be wrong, or it's the name change you mention is not getting picked up.  not sure what you can do, I forget what the other incron attributes are that it can wotch
[16:38] <Stryker13X> >>please, help if you can, thank you... :)
[16:38] <DJones> Stryker13X: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?, thats what this channel is for
[16:38] <RFleming> Stryker13X, !patience
[16:38] <RFleming> !patience Stryker13X
[16:39]  * RFleming has miserably failed.
[16:39] <larsadin> RFleming: Thank you for your reply!
[16:39] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, yeah.  Well I removed the exclusion and created a file in the watch dir, but nothing happened.  need to figure out why.  restarted the service, it still didn't do what it should have done.
[16:39] <Stryker13X> Oh I must have gone to the Ubuntu power support channel then (F+ reference)
[16:40] <DJones> Stryker13X: Please stay on topic, your question has nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[16:40] <Stryker13X> okay sorry
[16:41] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, the syslog is writing events
[16:42] <Chakiral__> Hello erverybody
[16:42] <RFleming> Hello Chakiral__
[16:44] <RFleming> !patience | Stryker13X
[16:44] <Chakiral__> hello RFleming !
[16:45] <Chakiral__> Is it in reference to the penicillin inventor ?
[16:46] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, was just able to trigger it.  now I have to test it and hope it doesn't crash the server again :D
[16:46] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: cool, what was the change? and good luck
[16:48] <RFleming> Chakiral__, no.  It's my name.
[16:48] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, not 100% sure, but the directories I was telling rsync to write to had been deleted.  So I re-created them and then created a few files to force it to see something happening.  it then copied the files over.  But those files were manually created on this end, so I would like to try it with BTSync and see if it crashes the server again.  Basically what was happening with the looping is that it was spawning a TON of
[16:48] <sudormrf>  rsync processes (at least that is how it looked to me in top), which eventually used up all the memory and crashed the server.
[16:49] <ubuNoob> need help with installing ubuntu
[16:49] <ubuNoob> i when and bought a dvd and burn the ubuntu image into it
[16:49] <Chakiral__> ^^
[16:50] <ubuNoob> i am getting the wrong option
[16:50] <ubuNoob> http://oi60.tinypic.com/2lv1uz8.jpg
[16:50] <ubuNoob> its might to be "inside ALONGSIDE" not INSIDE
[16:50] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, what are you expecting to see?
[16:50] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: so, could the looping be because it's sending like 512kb chunks at a time? or whatever its torrent protocol is?  So incron sees each chunk as a write complete?
[16:50] <ubuNoob> ALONGSIDE
[16:51] <ubuNoob> not INSIDE
[16:51] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, possibly.  That is why I was thinking IN_CLOSE_WRITE, but I don't even know if that would solve it
[16:51] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, did you boot in to this CD or did you insert the CD and click something from within windows?
[16:51] <ubuNoob> boot from  DVD
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: which is why you ignored .!sync, right? but then it wouldn't trigger at all?
[16:51] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, correct
[16:51] <ubuNoob> http://oi57.tinypic.com/2lcmqma.jpg
[16:52] <ubuNoob> that is the option when i choose "something else"
[16:52] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, then that is likely a type
[16:52] <ubuNoob> i dont see "free space"
[16:52] <ubuNoob> type of what?
[16:52] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, if you choose "something else" you will have to partition things yourself
[16:52] <ubuNoob> are you not might to boot from the cd?
[16:52] <RFleming> ubuNoob, that's because all of your space is allocated to Windows
[16:52] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, type -> typo
[16:52] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, if you select "inside" it will partition things for you.
[16:53] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, if you have any ideas, I am all ears :)
[16:53] <ubuNoob> inside?
[16:53] <ubuNoob> http://oi59.tinypic.com/152n9k0.jpg
[16:53] <ubuNoob> you can see "unallocated"]
[16:53] <ubuNoob> did windows claim that one too?
[16:53] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, unallocated, but it has been initialized in windows
[16:53] <sudormrf> so it is not seeing it in gparted
[16:54] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: none so far, hope you find a work-around
[16:54] <ubuNoob> sudormrf so what do i do?
[16:54] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, me too :).
[16:54] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, in the first picture you posted, select the option that says "inside windows".  it is a typo
[16:55] <wwalker> I did a apt-get update and apt-get upgrade yet openssl still shows a version of "OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012".  I'm on 12.04.4 LTS.  Does Ubuntu backport?
[16:56] <lukebrannon> i'm attempting to update slapd and apt-get complains about a dependency issue.  that slapd depends on libldap-2.4.2(2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4.2) but that I have 2.4.28-1ubuntu4.4 installed... I've tried using the -f flag during install, but the error persists... do I need to try to downgrade libldap?
[16:56] <ubuNoob> sudormrf i got the same option in 13.10 and 14.10
[16:57] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, this is an odd one.  If it is seeing each chunk as a file it will likely spawn a bunch of processes and crash the server again
[16:57] <ubuNoob> sudormrf also what should i do with the 80GB partition i created?
[16:57] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, select the one that says "inside", it will work.  in your case I would suggest not using 14.04 as it is beta
[16:58] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, you would have to "uninitialize" it from windows.  but then that would require you to partition manually.  I would *strongly* suggest using the "inside" option.  it will likely install to that bit of free space anyhow.
[16:59] <abetusk_w> I am running quantal 12.10.  I have done an 'apt-get update' and an 'apt-get upgrade' along with a reboot.  Looking at my openssl installation I see that 1.0.1c-3ubuntu2.7 is installed, which I believe is still affected by the heartbleed bug.  How do I update my openssl installation?  Do I need to download openssl, compile and install myself?  Why isn't this getting the latest version?
[16:59] <ubuNoob> sudormrf any idea how to uninitialize from windows?
[16:59] <SonikkuAmerica> abetusk_w: Yes. 12.10 will die soon, pending the release of 14.04 LTS>
[17:00] <sudormrf> ubuNoob, not off the top of my head, no.
[17:00] <j4son> abetusk_w: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[17:00] <SonikkuAmerica> sudormrf: The "inside" option? Wubi IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED.
[17:00] <sudormrf> SonikkuAmerica, he booted from the DVD and that is what he is seeing
[17:00] <SonikkuAmerica> sudormrf: Oh.
[17:00] <sudormrf> SonikkuAmerica, I was thinking it was WUBI right away and I asked him about it.
[17:01] <RFleming> wwalker, run openssl version -a and check the built on date
[17:01] <sudormrf> SonikkuAmerica, Is 12.10 still supported?
[17:01] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob: Is there a key you need to press to load the boot menu on boot?
[17:01] <SonikkuAmerica> sudormrf: For now, but this is the cutoff month.
[17:01] <I2EZ1ST> hi all
[17:01] <sudormrf> SonikkuAmerica, gotcha.  I was thinking support had ended already :).
[17:01] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica when the pc restart as soon asa it boot you get F12
[17:02] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob: Did you select the DVD drive?
[17:02] <ubuNoob> and you will be shown a list of things u can boot from
[17:02] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica yes yes yes
[17:02] <sudormrf> SonikkuAmerica, here is his screenshot http://oi60.tinypic.com/2lv1uz8.jpg
[17:02] <dcope> how can i upgrade *just* openssl from apt?
[17:02] <lukebrannon> apt-get update; apt-get install openssl
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> sudormrf: What on earth is that.
[17:03] <sudormrf> lukebrannon, apt-get update && apt-get install openssl
[17:03] <sudormrf> SonikkuAmerica, dunno, that is the screenshot that ubuNoob posted.
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob: Can you select "Something else"?
[17:03] <RFleming> dcope, sudo apt-get install -y libssl1.0.0 openssl
[17:04] <sudormrf> SonikkuAmerica, he did and showed a screenshot of that too.  I was trying to avoid having him manually partition things because he is still learning.
[17:04] <SonikkuAmerica> sudormrf: o
[17:04] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica http://oi57.tinypic.com/2lcmqma.jpg
[17:04] <abetusk_w> j4son, thanks
[17:05] <jpoole> does anyone know if there is an ext4-fs bug with kernel 3.11.0-19-generic #33~precise1-Ubuntu
[17:05] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob, sudormrf: Regarding the "Something else" page, what's that "unusable" space?
[17:06] <sudormrf> SonikkuAmerica, that looks like the 80gb he carved off in windows.  he initialized it in windows so it shows as unallocated in windows, but my guess is Ubuntu can't use it because it is initialized in windows
[17:07] <SonikkuAmerica> sudormrf, ubuNoob: Can GParted see that unallocated space? If so, can it be formatted to ext4?
[17:07] <sudormrf> SonikkuAmerica, good question.  hadn't tried that yet.
[17:07] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica if it did see it. It will be shown as "free space"
[17:08] <dcope> cool, im all upgraded now and no longer vulnerable
[17:08] <dcope> thanks all
[17:08] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob, sudormrf: OK, then close the installer, start GParted, click on the partition, and set that up for ext4.
[17:09] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica?
[17:09] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob: Is the installer closed?
[17:09] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica am back into using windows now
[17:09] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob: Reboot from the Live DVD again.
[17:10] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica okay 2 seconds
[17:13] <ubuNoob> waiting for my laptop to be set up so i can talk on they
[17:13] <Stryker13X> thanks! for the help #ubuntu support upgrade to 13.10 complete
[17:13] <bravezilong> Hello, Everybody!
[17:13] <bravezilong> How to upload HTML content on pastebin?
[17:13] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica btw when i shrink volume did i need to do anything else to it?
[17:14] <bravezilong> please help!
[17:14] <Innocent> Hi
[17:14] <dupingping> Hi
[17:14] <dupingping> bravezilong: Hi
[17:14] <SonikkuAmerica> bravezilong: This isn't exactly the channel you want, but http://paste.ubuntu.com has an HTML option IIRC (check the drop-down list)
[17:15]  * jpoole is away: (automatically dead ) [BX-MsgLog Off]
[17:15]  * jpoole is idle, automatically dead [bX(l/on p/off)]
[17:15] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob: Not that I know of.
[17:15] <dupingping> !irc | bravezilong
[17:15] <Innocent> I lost my applications icons in my dash home ?
[17:15] <dupingping> !irc | bravezilong
[17:15] <dupingping> !spam | bravezilong
[17:15] <Pici> dupingping: stop
[17:15] <Innocent> Is there anyway to retrive them ?
[17:16] <dupingping> Pici:: haha
[17:16] <dupingping> Pici: I see.
[17:16] <bravezilong> SonikkuAmerica: i checked it.
[17:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Innocent: They're in your "Applications" scope
[17:16] <Innocent> SonikkuAmerica: Where ?
[17:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Innocent: It's the second icon on the bottom of the Unity dash. I think it's the one that looks like an "A"
[17:16] <dupingping> SonikkuAmerica: bravezilong is my girl friend.
[17:17] <bravezilong> but it doesn`t upload to the full HTML form?
[17:17] <Innocent> SonikkuAmerica: Software center ?
[17:17] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica brb 1 sec going to log into my laptop
[17:17] <dupingping> SonikkuAmerica: I wish you help her. Thanks.
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Innocent: No, enter the dash and look at the bottom. See the row of white icons?
[17:17] <dupingping> ubuNoob: what?
[17:18] <Innocent> SonikkuAmerica: I'm using 12.04
[17:18] <dupingping> Innocent: what?
[17:18] <ubuNoob> back
[17:18] <matvey> hello kitty
[17:18] <dupingping> Innocent: at 12.04, what?
[17:18] <Innocent> dupingping: Yes
[17:18] <dupingping> Innocent: and then what?
[17:19] <RFleming> wwalker, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least that shown on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ for your release of Ubuntu
[17:19] <dupingping> Innocent: please tell me about your problem.
[17:19] <Innocent> dupingping: I said that i lost my applications icons on the dash, the only way i can access my apps is using the terminal
[17:19] <bravezilong> I already upload HTML content by using pastebin.
[17:20] <diogobaeder> Hi guys! Hey, I can't upgrade from Saucy to Trusty, the upgrade-manager seems to be getting stuck at several package problems, but this hasn't happened before. Can anyone give me a hand at this? This is a list of package problems I'm seeing in apt.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7222508/
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> bravezilong: Selecting "HTML" as the type of paste in the pastebin only highlights the distinguishing characteristics of the HTML (markers, hrefs, text, etc.)
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> diogobaeder: Head for #ubuntu+1
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob: So now, open GParted (open the dash and type "gp")
[17:20] <diogobaeder> SonikkuAmerica, thanks, I'll go there
[17:20] <bravezilong> ok!
[17:20] <bravezilong> but
[17:21] <bravezilong> it doesn`t full HTML form.
[17:21] <Pici> bravezilong: What does that mean?
[17:21] <Pici> bravezilong: Do you mean that it isn't rendering the HTML to a nice pretty presentable page?
[17:22] <RFleming> bravezilong, you can't render HTML on pastebin.
[17:22] <RFleming> you paste HTML, it will show HTML
[17:22] <karstensrage> is there a way to tell why on login it says system restart required?
[17:22] <Innocent> dupingping: ^_^ they return just now, Thank you
[17:22] <bravezilong> Pici: you are right.
[17:22] <RFleming> bravezilong, if you want to paste html and have it render, look at codepen.io
[17:23] <Pici> bravezilong: then see what RFleming said. normal pastebins are only for displaying text code.
[17:23] <usr13> diogobaeder: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[17:23] <bravezilong> i see
[17:23] <RFleming> bravezilong, codepen.io
[17:23] <rsvp> anyone know when the POINT release of Trusty is due out?
[17:23] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica?
[17:23] <bravezilong> is it url?
[17:24] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica where do i need to be to open gparted?
[17:24] <RFleming> bravezilong, yes
[17:24] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob: On the Live DVD desktop
[17:24] <Pici> rsvp: Hrm.. normally they would be on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[17:24] <diogobaeder> Thanks, usr13 , but it didn't work. I'm in another channel, though.
[17:25] <SonikkuAmerica> rsvp: Technically April 17 will see .0
[17:26] <bravezilong> text code is HTML source code?
[17:26] <RFleming> *sighs*
[17:26] <usr13> diogobaeder: dpkg-reconfigure -a
[17:26] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica 2 mins please
[17:26] <usr13> diogobaeder: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[17:26] <bravezilong> RFleming:text code is HTML source code?
[17:27] <RFleming> bravezilong, what are you referencing?  What Pici said about pastebin functionality?
[17:27] <SonikkuAmerica> usr13: NOT THAT!!!
[17:27] <usr13> SonikkuAmerica: Why not?
[17:27] <SonikkuAmerica> usr13, diogobaeder: [ sudo dpkg --configure -a ]
[17:27] <shubhamjain> When you press TAB to autocomplete filename and if there are multiple possibilities then the terminal won't autocomplete. Is there anyway to brwse through those possibilities.?
[17:27] <SonikkuAmerica> usr13: That's why.
[17:28] <Pici> usr13: they're getting help in #ubuntu+1
[17:28] <rsvp> Pici, the final version 14.04 is due out Apr 17 per your link -- but POINT release refers to 14.04.1 which is the debugged final version -- ultra-stable.
[17:28] <bravezilong> yes
[17:28] <usr13> SonikkuAmerica: Ok
[17:28] <SonikkuAmerica> usr13: dpkg-reconfigure -a reconfigures EVERY SINGLE PACKAGE by hand.
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> usr13: while dpkg --configure -a only finishes a broken dpkg
[17:29] <Pici> rsvp: I realize what a point release was.  Normally that shows up on the release schedule, like it does on, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> usr13: (or interrupted)
[17:29] <RFleming> shubhamjain, there might be a bash addon that does that, but I don't know.
[17:29] <phao> Hi. When I plugin my android device through USB and open the "Files" program (idk its name... it's just named "Files" on the programs side bar), I can right click an item in the menu named "Android" and click "Mount". However, when I do so, I get an error => Unable to access “Android” \nUnable to open MTP device '[usb:003,003]'
[17:30] <diogobaeder> SonikkuAmerica, I'm already running the previous command, should I abort it?
[17:30] <SonikkuAmerica> diogobaeder: At the next prompt.
[17:30] <phao> Any clues on what that is? I'm on ubuntu 13.10, back when I was in 12.04 I also was getting an error but with a different message "Cannot lock the device"
[17:31] <phao> ah...
[17:31] <bravezilong> i have one html page in order to show on askubuntu.
[17:31] <usr13> SonikkuAmerica:  dpkg --configure will configure all packages unpacked but unconfigured packages are configured.
[17:31] <RFleming> phao, sudo apt-get install mtp-tools mtpfs
[17:31] <rsvp> fair estimate for Trusty point release??? about two months IMO after final.
[17:31] <phao> RFleming, ok.
[17:31] <phao> RFleming, what is that, btw?
[17:31] <bravezilong> but how to do it?
[17:31] <usr13> SonikkuAmerica:  dpkg --configure -a will configure all packages unpacked but unconfigured packages are configured.
[17:32] <RFleming> tool and filesystem support to mount your phone's MTP fs
[17:32] <bravezilong> please help!
[17:32] <phao> Plugging my android device on my usb 3.0 port solves the issue, btw.
[17:32] <usr13> SonikkuAmerica: That wasnt right either but you get the point I'm sure....
[17:32] <phao> RFleming, downloading.
[17:33] <RFleming> phao, yeah, seems to be the way the usb2 port is recognized.
[17:33] <Pici> bravezilong: Would a screenshot not work instead?
[17:33] <bravezilong> I tried to use pastebin but I wonder how to show html page?
[17:33] <bravezilong> please help me!!!
[17:33] <rsvp> phao, best bet is to use samba and (on Android) ES File Manager, all for free. Forget USB.
[17:34] <phao> RFleming, your suggestion solved the problem.
[17:34] <RFleming> bravezilong, If you want to have your HTML page show up as a PAGE and not as TEXT, then use http://codepen.io
[17:34] <karstensrage> imgur?
[17:34] <bravezilong> RFleming: can you explain more detail please?
[17:35] <RFleming> gah! no.
[17:35] <RFleming> we have attempted to.
[17:35] <diogobaeder> SonikkuAmerica, still with the same issue :-(
[17:35] <bravezilong> RFleming: I`m newbie ubuntu.
[17:35] <RFleming> bravezilong, this is not an ubuntu problem
[17:35] <usr13> bravezilong: What is your problem ?
[17:36] <phao> In that "Files" program, the "up arrow with a horizontal bar below it" icon means "unmount the device" ? This icon appears next to mounted devices like my external hdd when mounted.
[17:36] <diogobaeder> SonikkuAmerica, anyway, I'll move to the other channel, sorry
[17:36] <RFleming> usr13, he wants to paste HTML to pastebin and have it render as HTML
[17:36] <RFleming> not as text
[17:36] <usr13> RFleming: Why?
[17:36] <RFleming> usr13, something about askubuntu
[17:36] <bravezilong> RFleming: anyhow i don`t konw how to use codepen.io please step by step method.
[17:37] <RFleming> bravezilong, unfortunately that is not a part of my pro-bono services.  Go to codepen.io and follow their tutorials.
[17:37] <usr13> diogobaeder: How did your system get in this condition?  (Can you give us a little background information?
[17:38] <bravezilong> RFleming: Thanks.
[17:38] <RFleming> usr13, saucy to trusty upgrade
[17:38] <RFleming> usr13, he's in +1 right now.
[17:38] <diogobaeder> usr13, well, I'm not sure, I just tried to upgrade it to Trusty and it started getting stuck with this "can not upgrade, error can not calculate upgrade" error
[17:39] <RFleming> bravezilong, you're very welcome.
[17:39] <usr13> diogobaeder:  cat /etc/issue
[17:39] <diogobaeder> usr13, I have some non-repo packages installed, though, so I'm not sure they may be causing the issue
[17:39] <Stryker13X> phao, i know not try !patience #qml
[17:39] <trupheenix> What am I supposed to do about the Heartbleed bug? I tried doing an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I am using the digital ocean mirrors. Anyone know anything?
[17:40] <diogobaeder> usr13, $ ▶cat /etc/issue
[17:40] <diogobaeder> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[17:40] <luft_> how do I check when the last time a package was upgrade was?
[17:40] <luft_> upgraded*
[17:40] <RFleming> luft_, you have a specific package in mind?
[17:40] <usr13> tail -n1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:40] <luft_> openssl
[17:40] <RFleming> luft_, are you referring to the openssl heartbleed bug?
[17:40] <luft_> yep
[17:41] <RFleming> luft_, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least that shown on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ for your release of Ubuntu
[17:41] <RFleming> !sslbug | luft_
[17:41] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica i am booting to the dvd now. I had to burn it again
[17:42] <stephan> about the sslbug 13.04 will not receive any upgrades correct?
[17:42] <luft_> great, i've got the right version
[17:42] <usr13> diogobaeder:  cat /etc/issue
[17:43] <usr13> diogobaeder: lsb_release -r
[17:43] <diogobaeder> usr13, $ ▶lsb_release -r
[17:43] <diogobaeder> Release:	13.10
[17:43] <usr13> diogobaeder: What does lsb_release -r say?
[17:43] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica i am in the option windows now. I clicked on "install ubuntu"
[17:43] <usr13> diogobaeder: tail -n1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:44] <RFleming> stephan, I am not sure.  I don't believe so
[17:44] <Stryker13X> Would anyone know the estimation for a stable 13.10 release, enough with the upgrades service, yes?
[17:44] <diogobaeder> usr13, $ ▶tail -n1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:44] <diogobaeder> Prompt=normal
[17:44] <OerHeks> stephan, correct, not for 13.04
[17:44] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica where do i run the "gparted"
[17:44] <usr13> diogobaeder: Did sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  do anything for you?
[17:44] <diogobaeder> usr13, I haven't run it 'till the end, as per SonikkuAmerica
[17:45] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuNoob: in the desktop
[17:45] <SonikkuAmerica> usr13: WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT THAT???
[17:45] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica but i cant install ubuntu
[17:45] <usr13> SonikkuAmerica: About what?
[17:45] <stephan> :( I recompiled the package with -DOPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEATS
[17:45] <stephan> should be ok.
[17:45] <SonikkuAmerica> usr13: it's [ sudo dpkg --configure -a ]
[17:45] <rsvp> hopefully heartbleed fix has been incorporated into Trusty. This is a major security problem.
[17:45] <SonikkuAmerica> stephan: I have 1.0.f-1ubuntu2 which has its own patch.
[17:46] <usr13> diogobaeder: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[17:46] <SonikkuAmerica> rsvp: Yes, 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2
[17:46] <usr13> diogobaeder: You already did sudo dpkg --configure -a  Right?
[17:46] <ubuNoob> SonikkuAmerica i am on this screen http://oi60.tinypic.com/2lv1uz8.jpg
[17:46] <stephan> SonikkuAmerica: for 13.04?
[17:46] <RFleming> rsvp, it has... libssl1.0.0:amd64 = 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2
[17:46] <stephan> oh sorry
[17:46] <Stryker13X> rsvp, please elaborate opinion
[17:46] <stephan> I mean we need g
[17:47] <stephan> or recompile with no heartbeats
[17:47] <Pici> Stryker13X: What do you mean? 13.10 is stable, but there will always be updates as security patches come out.
[17:47] <diogobaeder> usr13, yep, I have
[17:47] <OerHeks> stephan, 13.04 is EOL, so build it yourself or upgrade
[17:47] <stephan> thumbsup
[17:47] <diogobaeder> s/have/did/
[17:47] <usr13> diogobaeder: And what did  sudo -f install   do for you?
[17:48] <usr13> diogobaeder: And what did  sudo apt-get -f install   do for you?
[17:48] <Stryker13X> thank you Pici, what is with the high-color, i want that :)
[17:48] <lost_soul> afternoon everyone, I'm wondering if anyone in here has experienced issues connecting to an open wireless network but no problems connecting to a secured wireless network.  I'm using Ubuntu 13 LTS dmesg shows my controller as a Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux
[17:48] <ubuNoob> how do i get to the desktop if i am on this screen http://oi60.tinypic.com/2lv1uz8.jpg
[17:48] <diogobaeder> usr13, nothing, apparently
[17:48] <Pici> Stryker13X: I used your name in my reply, your client automatically alerts you with the color change.
[17:48] <lost_soul> I've googled and seem to only find results of people having issues connecting to secured networks, not open networks
[17:48] <diogobaeder> usr13, nothing to be done, installed, or fixed
[17:49] <jjavaholic> !upstart
[17:49] <Stryker13X> <--nub
[17:49] <usr13> ubuNoob: What do you mean "to the desktop"?
[17:49] <Stryker13X> Pici, thank you.
[17:49] <sudormrf> can someone clarify what IN_CLOSE_WAIT does with inotify tools?
[17:49] <ubuNoob> usr13 i didnt say it
[17:50] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok
[17:50] <rsvp> Stryker13X, it's like the supposed encryption was never there -- we all had a false sense of security -- even passwords are exposed, so even with the software fix, systems are still very vulnerable without global password changes.
[17:50] <RFleming> sudormrf, that's PERL no?
[17:51] <ubuNoob> omg he had to fo at the wrong time
[17:51] <ubuNoob> usr13 i am having issue installing ubuntu
[17:51] <RFleming> Stryker13X, from heartbleed.com: What leaks in practice?
[17:51] <RFleming> We have tested some of our own services from attacker's perspective. We attacked ourselves from outside, without leaving a trace. Without using any privileged information or credentials we were able steal from ourselves the secret keys used for our X.509 certificates, user names and passwords, instant messages, emails and business critical documents and communication.
[17:52] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok.  So,... what is your question?
[17:52] <ubuNoob> usr13 http://oi60.tinypic.com/2lv1uz8.jpg
[17:52] <ubuNoob> usr13 http://oi57.tinypic.com/2lcmqma.jpg
[17:52] <MrJones> RFleming: potentially everything the ssl-executing application has in their address space
[17:53] <john_rambo> What is the release date of 14.04 ?
[17:53] <Pici> john_rambo: 17th.
[17:53] <usr13> ubuNoob: So you have chosen to replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu.  Right?
[17:53] <RFleming> MrJones, very scary
[17:53] <alteregoa> well it should be when its done, like any other operating system
[17:53] <john_rambo> Thanks
[17:53] <ubuNoob> usr13 hell no
[17:53] <rsvp> UNDERLINE: "secret keys used for our X.509 certificates, user names and passwords" -- this is the serious exposure I'm talking about !!!
[17:53] <alteregoa> i replaced ubuntu with osx
[17:54] <usr13> ubuNoob: Really?
[17:54] <alteregoa> openssl_1.0.1g-1_amd64.deb installed on my debian machine, can't find them on ubuntu repository
[17:54] <ubuNoob> usr13 am trying to do a dual boot
[17:54] <usr13> ubuNoob: What is your question?
[17:54] <Pici> alteregoa: because that version doesn't exist. The patches were applied to older versions. see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[17:54] <OerHeks> alteregoa, just update
[17:55] <alteregoa> yeah i use the original from debian now
[17:55] <RFleming> alteregoa, what version of Ubuntu?
[17:55] <Androo> If I upgrade to 14.04 LTS now using "do-release-upgrade -d", will I need to "do-release-upgrade" again when the final is available, or will normal updates supply it to me?  Dumb question, sorry.
[17:55] <alteregoa> 13.10
[17:55] <Pici> !final > Androo
[17:56] <usr13> ubuNoob: At this point, you have 85G free space. Is that what you want to use for the Ubuntu install?
[17:56] <Devrim> how come openssl shows as version 1.0.1 on ubuntu?
[17:56] <Devrim> it doesn't say which version exactly
[17:56] <Pici> Devrim: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ see apt-cache policy openssl
[17:56] <RFleming> alteregoa, why use the debian version, was patched last night
[17:56] <alteregoa> because the binary is the same
[17:57] <usr13> ubuNoob: But, it appears that you already have 4 primary partitions.  Right?
[17:57] <Devrim> openssl:
[17:57] <Devrim> Installed: 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[17:57] <Devrim> Candidate: 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[17:57] <Devrim> I'm good? :D
[17:57] <Devrim> thanks Pici btw
[17:57] <RFleming> Devrim,
[17:57] <RFleming> run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least that shown on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ for your release of Ubuntu
[17:57] <ubuNoob> usr13 i created a partiton for ubuntu http://oi59.tinypic.com/152n9k0.jpg . i got to this option i get "inside windows" http://oi60.tinypic.com/2lv1uz8.jpg so i choose other "something else" and got this http://oi57.tinypic.com/2lcmqma.jpg
[17:57] <john_rambo> Every room I visit I find people talking about openssl .... Something happened very recently ? I Googled didnt find much ....Maybe I didnt search properly
[17:57] <RFleming> !sslbug > Devrim
[17:57] <Androo> Pici, thanks
[17:57] <rsvp> Devrim, version 1.0.0 was an agency work.
[17:57] <sigint88> john_rambo: yes its all over the interwebs
[17:58] <ubuNoob> usr13  on the first link you can see "unallocated" which is the space i shrink from my C drive"
[17:58] <sigint88> john_rambo: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[17:58] <Devrim> thanks guys
[17:58] <RFleming> Devrim, np
[17:58] <usr13> ubuNoob: You have 4 primary partitions.  Right?
[17:58] <sigint88> unopaste: i havent been hear in so long
[17:58] <ubuNoob> usr13 4?
[17:59] <RFleming> !sslbug > john_rambo
[17:59] <alteregoa> i think my mirror is not mirroring the actual stuff
[18:00] <RFleming> alteregoa, why is that?
[18:00] <alteregoa> maybe not in sync
[18:01] <usr13> ubuNoob: sda1 sda2 sda3 & sda4  (By my count, that is 4 partitions.)  They are all primary> Right?  If that is the case, (that you have 4 primary partitrions), you will either need to delete one or add another Hard Drive.  If you want to just do away with Windows 7, this is an easy process, other wise, you have 2 (other) choices.
[18:01] <alteregoa> 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2
[18:01] <john_rambo> RFleming, I am planning to download the 14.04 daily iso and install it .....I will be updating right after install
[18:02] <Pici> alteregoa: thats the correct version.
[18:02] <alteregoa> i am cowfused
[18:02] <ubuNoob> usr13 from this image http://oi59.tinypic.com/152n9k0.jpg look at disk 0
[18:02] <RFleming> john_rambo, the bug has been patched in 14.04 as well
[18:02] <john_rambo> Thanks
[18:02] <RFleming> alteregoa, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least that shown on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ for your release of Ubuntu
[18:02] <Pici> alteregoa: Ubuntu patched the older versions, we are not using 1.0.1g in any release.
[18:03] <ubuNoob> usr13 which one is the allocated in this list http://oi57.tinypic.com/2lcmqma.jpg
[18:03] <Stryker13X> in ubuntu 12.04 after cert install and lock can my PC be remotely un-lock ing, i don't know know what's going on? sorry
[18:03] <ubuNoob> usr12 "unallocated"
[18:03] <alteregoa> pici: i think i switch to libssl from debian
[18:04] <RFleming> alteregoa, which wouldn't be updated because it isn't in the mirror
[18:04] <Pici> alteregoa: you should never do that.
[18:04] <alteregoa> thats the same main tree, so doesnt' harm
[18:05] <RFleming> alteregoa, sudo apt-get install -y libssl1.0.0 openssl
[18:05] <usr13> ubuNoob: Looks like you could delete sda3 ?
[18:05] <Pici> alteregoa: no.
[18:06] <alteregoa> OpenSSL 1.0.1g 7 Apr 2014 (Library: OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013)
[18:06] <ubuNoob> usr13 am scared because that might be rthe system reserved
[18:06] <Pici> alteregoa: ubuntu rebuilds packages from debian, often with different patches and options. Don't assume that just because Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian that everything will work fine.
[18:07] <ubuNoob> usr13 c drice and the system reserved are dynamic type which do not get classed as "partition"
[18:07] <ubuNoob> usr13 am i right?
[18:07] <usr13> ubuNoob: Or, maybe delete sda4
[18:07] <usr13> ?
[18:08] <RFleming> alteregoa, replace them with the Ubuntu ones like I mentioned above
[18:08] <usr13> ubuNoob: It appears that sda4 is empty.  Right?
[18:08] <diogobaeder> Maybe my upgrade is failing because I have a translated installation, I'm having these kinds of error when attempting to upgrade: "Erro http://archive.canonical.com saucy/partner Translation-pt_BR"
[18:08] <spence> does the heartbleed openssl update for a client require a reboot?
[18:08] <ubuNoob> usr13 dont think you fully understand this. dont wanna make any mistakes will wait for Rory
[18:09] <alteregoa> i will do a dist upgrade anyway this month
[18:09] <RFleming> it won't reinstall libssl
[18:09] <ubuNoob> user13 is sda4 is 893225 MB
[18:09] <ubuNoob> usr13 how can it be empty?
[18:10] <ubuNoob> usr13 i am going to delete the unallocated and see if it shows up
[18:10] <usr13> ubuNoob: I don't know how it can be empty, I can only ask you.  Is sda4 empty?  If so, delete it and use the space for Ubuntu install.
[18:11] <ubuNoob> usr13 why are u asking me? i dont know anything about ubuntu
[18:11] <usr13> ubuNoob: Now you can mount those partitions and see what is there or what is not there and then make your decision, but only *you* know exactly what you have and what you don't have and what you can do without.
[18:12] <usr13> ubuNoob: You don't delete uallocated space, you only delete partitions.  So which one can you do without.
[18:12] <ubuNoob> usr13 my screen shot shows what i have
[18:12] <Stryker13X> Stryker13X, it's like the supposed encryption was never there -- we all had a false sense of security -- even passwords are exposed, so even with the rsvp: "software fix, systems are still very vulnerable without global password changes." i understand it may seem come from remote device such as see sound settings digital output s/pdif suspectd
[18:13] <ubuNoob> usr13 from this image http://oi59.tinypic.com/152n9k0.jpg which one should be deleted?
[18:13] <usr13> ubuNoob: You need to keep sda1 probably, (because it is UEFI, right?)
[18:13] <ubuNoob> usr13 i cant delete C because thats my windows c drive
[18:13] <OerHeks> ubuNoob, remove the last one, sda4, and make it an extended partition and you will be fine
[18:14] <alteregoa> fascinating it works better
[18:14] <alteregoa> deimos:/tmp$ dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0
[18:14] <alteregoa> libssl1.0.0:amd64	1.0.1g-1
[18:14] <alteregoa> libssl1.0.0:i386	1.0.1g-1
[18:14] <Stryker13X> RFleming "heartbleed.com" got it thanks
[18:14] <ubuNoob> OerHeks one question. which is my C drive?
[18:14] <OerHeks> ubuNoob, only you can tell by size
[18:15] <Stryker13X> rsvp:  i understand it may seem come from remote device such as see sound settings digital output s/pdif suspectd
[18:15] <OerHeks> webbased security check if targeted service is up2date > http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/
[18:15] <ubuNoob> OerHeks my c drive is 729GB free of 831 GB from the image can you tell me which one is my c drive please
[18:15] <usr13> ubuNoob: The numbers do not add up.  http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lcmqma&s=8#.U0Q1vFbN3DY vs http://oi59.tinypic.com/152n9k0.jpg  (Are they both from the same computer?)  Or.....?
[18:16] <tempname> ~test
[18:16] <ice9> network activity in  system monitor doesn't work!
[18:16] <ubuNoob> usr13 yes same pc
[18:17] <usr13> OerHeks: Look at those two images, the numbers don't add up. Right?  Nor do the partitions.....   So what is the deal?
[18:17] <OerHeks> ubuNoob, according to http://oi57.tinypic.com/2lcmqma.jpg your biggest partition is sda4 893225 mb so i think that would be your C:
[18:18] <usr13> ubuNoob: "c drive" does not have any real meaning.  What we need to deal with are the partitions, and you have 4 of them, sda1 sda2 sda3 and sda4  If all of them are primary partitions, then you need to either delete one or add another Hard Drive.
[18:19] <alteregoa> drive c is like root, it has no real meaning
[18:19] <usr13> ubuNoob: Do you have the installer running now?
[18:19] <ubuNoob> usr13 does not make sense
[18:19] <OerHeks> ubuNoob, the only way to make use of the unallocated space is removing sda4, which means you need to reinstall windows.
[18:19] <alteregoa> or do you ever earn carrots on your drive?
[18:19] <usr13> ubuNoob: What is your status now? Have you booted to the LiveCD?  Or USB?
[18:20] <ubuNoob> usr13 dvd
[18:20] <AntiCorrupcion> why am I getting this terminal popup
[18:20] <AntiCorrupcion> everytime I try to update ubuntu
[18:20] <AntiCorrupcion> then it gives me this gibberish
[18:20] <AntiCorrupcion> http://imgur.com/feq03xk
[18:21] <AntiCorrupcion> ?
[18:21] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok, Ctrl-Alt-F6
[18:21] <usr13> ubuNoob:  sudo fdisk -l  | pastebinit
[18:21] <ubuNoob> usr13 it doesnot make sense because someone told me last month i have 4 partitons and i needed to delete my d drive
[18:21] <ubuNoob> usr13 this image is from last month
[18:21] <usr13> ubuNoob: Or just bring up a terminal window and type:    fdisk -l
[18:21] <usr13> ubuNoob: Or just bring up a terminal window and type:    sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[18:21] <JaySlaven> why does my linux randomly crash my internet
[18:21] <Stryker13X> on heartbleed.com "Bug was introduced to OpenSSL in December 2011 and has been out in the wild since OpenSSL release 1.0.1 on 14th of March 2012. OpenSSL 1.0.1g released on 7th of April 2014 fixes the bug." i've got date issues for common users sorry
[18:22] <usr13> ubuNoob: And pastebin the result.
[18:22] <ubuNoob> usr13  last month i had any drive which was my d drive. i deleted it 4 days ago. this image is from last month http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=fNkd6hpTbcNEHQlRwV6MeIh4l5k2TGxc#.U0Q9xvldXAE
[18:22] <JaySlaven> i get disconnected, then i will reconnect
[18:22] <ubuNoob> usr13 1 sec
[18:22] <SchrodingersScat> !ops | AntiCorrupcion
[18:22] <Jordan_U> Stryker13X: "crash my internet" isn't a very useful description of a problem. What symptoms are you actually seeing?
[18:23] <usr13> ubuNoob: Oh, so you already deleted sda4?
[18:23] <usr13> ubuNoob: Very good, then you should be good to go....
[18:23] <ubuNoob> usr13 read again
[18:23] <JaySlaven> My Linux Kicks Me Offline and then about 2-3 mins later it will rejoin.  My Specs - 10gbddr3 latest amd catalyst 7770 1gb gddr5 and amd fx 4-130
[18:23] <ubuNoob> usr13 THIS IMAGE IS FROM LAST MONTH 27 DAYS AGO
[18:24] <usr13> ubuNoob: Show us the output of    sudo fdisk -l
[18:24] <Stryker13X> like rsvp mess it's like the supposed encryption was never there -- we all had a false sense of security -- even passwords are exposed software fix, systems are still very vulnerable without global password changes.
[18:24] <usr13> ubuNoob: (What you had 27 days ago is not important.  What you have now is what we are interested in.)
[18:24] <ubuNoob> usr13 27 DAYS AGO I have another windows drive called D. everyone thougth that it was the result why. so i deleted it
[18:25] <ubuNoob> usr13 now everyone saying its the c dive
[18:25] <ubuNoob> usr13 i am about to boot to ubuntu cd now
[18:25] <usr13> ubuNoob: Was it 393997 MB?
[18:26] <ubuNoob> usr13 it eas around 275GB to 350GB it was used for backup
[18:26] <ubuNoob> usr13 but i deleted that drive now.
[18:26] <Stryker13X> will heartbleed.com be supported by caonical
[18:27] <usr13> ubuNoob: You deleted that "partition".  Right?
[18:27] <Pici> Stryker13X: The website is run by a third party. It just happens to have useful information.
[18:27] <usr13> ubuNoob: So the question still remains;  What do you have *now*?
[18:27] <ubuNoob> usr13 yes now i only have 1 parttion which is packard bell (C:) right? http://oi59.tinypic.com/152n9k0.jpg
[18:28] <ubuNoob> usr13 this is what i have now http://oi59.tinypic.com/152n9k0.jpg
[18:28] <Stryker13X> Pici thank you, the proposal is a fail safe device, ,not interested sorry
[18:28] <usr13> ubuNoob:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda  #What does that say?
[18:28] <JaySlaven> anyway wat should i do
[18:28] <JaySlaven> about my internet kicking me off for no reasonm
[18:28] <ubuNoob> usr13 still waitint for ubuntu to cd to boot
[18:29] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok
[18:30] <ubuNoob> usr13 just give me a moment please
[18:30] <ubuNoob> usr13 when the installer boot up should i click on "Try ubuntu"?
[18:31] <JaySlaven> how would i install a tar.gz file on my ubuntu machine as i am trying to install drivers
[18:31] <usr13> ubuNoob: Yes
[18:31] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok. In the mean time;  What size is your Hard Drive?
[18:31] <ubuNoob> usr13 my pc hard drive is 1TB
[18:32] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok good.  (Thats' what I thought, just wanted to be sure.)
[18:32] <Jordan_U> JaySlaven: What are you actually trying to install?
[18:32] <JaySlaven> my drivers from edimax for my internet
[18:33] <usr13> ubuNoob: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL
[18:33] <tsaavik> any ask this yet (lol). openssl 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12, but scanner still says i'm vulnerable?
[18:33] <Pici> tsaavik: did you restart apache?
[18:33] <tsaavik> Pici: yes
[18:33] <usr13> ubuNoob: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL
[18:33] <JaySlaven> Jordan_U: my drivers from edimax for my internet
[18:33] <ubuNoob> usr13 sudo fdisk -1
[18:33] <Jordan_U> JaySlaven: Where did you find these drivers? Please pastebin the output of "lspci".
[18:33] <usr13> ubuNoob: l not 1   L  ell
[18:33] <ubuNoob> usr13 u r giving too much commands
[18:34] <JaySlaven> lspci??
[18:34] <usr13> ubuNoob: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda |pastebinit
[18:34] <usr13> ubuNoob: Open a terminal window and type the above command and show us the resulting URL
[18:34] <Jordan_U> JaySlaven: Yes. "lspci" is a command you can run from a terminal. It will list information about pci devices.
[18:34] <ubuNoob> usr13 does the command include "|pastebinit"
[18:34] <usr13> ubuNoob: Yes
[18:35] <usr13> ubuNoob: Tell us what it says.....
[18:35] <ubuNoob> usr13 okay just a moment please. This kids are annoying me today
[18:35] <JaySlaven> http://pastebin.com/NU4BbiCb
[18:36] <JaySlaven> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/NU4BbiCb
[18:37] <twocarlo> im looking for webcam for linux which brand should i buy that can work out of the box
[18:37] <tsaavik> Pici: jsut rebooted also, still show as vulnerable. weird, 12.04.4 LTS totally up to date
[18:38] <cambazz> hello. does anyone know how to patch the heartbleed bug in ubuntu
[18:38] <ubuNoob> usr13 just to make sure the full command is " sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda |pastebinit                     "
[18:38] <usr13> ubuNoob: Correct
[18:39] <Jpmh> twocarlo: I have used many and had no issue.  I buy what is cheapest at the time
[18:39] <fdafweaf> I'm still seeing Openssl v 1.0.1e in apt-get, but I'm using rackspace's mirrors.  Is there some way to specify "no really go check the latest from Ubuntu"?
[18:39] <usr13> ubuNoob: Tell us what it says in return.
[18:39] <hmmp> easiest way to screenshot in Unity?
[18:39] <usr13> !paste | hmmp
[18:39] <ubuNoob> usr13 okay need to set up the internet connection
[18:40] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok  good.
[18:40] <usr13> hmmp: Oh sorry....
[18:40] <hmmp> usr13 heh it's okay
[18:40] <JaySlaven> Jordan_U: Help Pls http://pastebin.com/NU4BbiCb
[18:40] <RFleming> fdafweaf, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least that shown on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ for your release of Ubuntu
[18:41] <usr13> hmmp: Alt-F2 gnome-screenshot
[18:41] <RFleming> fdafweaf, the version number won't change.
[18:41] <usr13> hmmp: (Dono if it's the *easiest* way, but it is *a* way.)
[18:42] <fdafweaf> RFleming, I got back the following: "libssl1.0.0:amd64	1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2"
[18:42] <fdafweaf> And I'm running 13.10
[18:42] <fdafweaf> That means I'm good right?
[18:43] <RFleming> fdafweaf, indeed it does
[18:43] <hmmp> usr13: when I click the icon should it open somekind of app? it doesnt...
[18:43] <fdafweaf> Awesome, thank you
[18:43] <fdafweaf> RFleming, do you know why openssl reports an older version?
[18:43] <RFleming> fdafweaf, because openssl hasn't changed :)
[18:43] <usr13> hmmp: What icon?
[18:44] <RFleming> libssl1.0.0, a completely different package (which openssl uses) changed
[18:44] <fdafweaf> Ohhhhh
[18:44] <ubuNoob> usr13 how do i get the ubun termimal ctrl+alt+F6 not working
[18:44] <fdafweaf> RFleming, I see, thank you.
[18:44] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ctrl-t
[18:44] <lachesis> i'm using the eth0:1 syntax in /etc/network/interfaces - how do i specify a default outgoing ip?
[18:44] <hmmp> usr13: alt+F2 opens the search window for apps
[18:44] <RFleming> fdafweaf, if you run openssl version -a, you should see a build date
[18:44] <usr13> hmmp: gnome-screenshot
[18:44] <usr13> hmmp: (type it)
[18:44] <usr13> hmmp: Hit Enter
[18:45] <RFleming> fdafweaf, so essentially, a new libssl was made, and openssl was recompiled.
[18:45] <john_rambo> After writing Ubuntu iso to usb using dd can I backup my data to the remaining space on the usb drive ?
[18:45] <fdafweaf> That makes sense.  Thanks for your help
[18:45] <fdafweaf> I'm breathing again
[18:45] <ubuNoob> usr13 stilll nothing. is terminal avaliable when you click "try ubunu"?
[18:45] <usr13> ubuNoob: Yes.
[18:46] <hmmp> usr13: nothing happens when I hit the enter
[18:46] <usr13> ubuNoob: Alt-F2  gnome-terminal
[18:46] <usr13> hmmp: (The tab key is  your friend)
[18:47] <usr13> hmmp: Ok, just click the icon in the upper left, and start typing...     screenshot
[18:47] <RFleming> fdafweaf, you're very welcome.
[18:47] <ubuNoob> usr13 nothing anyways had to do it old skool
[18:48] <Jordan_U> JaySlaven: I'm waiting for you to tell me where you found the drivers that you downloaded.
[18:48] <usr13> ubuNoob: Click the Icon in the upper left and type    terminal
[18:48] <JaySlaven> ok
[18:48] <RFleming> lachesis, you have to specify routes.
[18:48] <JaySlaven> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=1&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
[18:48] <usr13> ubuNoob: What version of Ubuntu is it?
[18:48] <RFleming> lachesis, look up routing
[18:48] <usr13> ubuNoob: 12.04?
[18:49] <usr13> ubuNoob: 12.04.4  ?
[18:49] <multi_io> does ubuntu provide fixed openssl packages yet?
[18:49] <ubuNoob> usr 13.10
[18:49] <RFleming> !sslbug | multi_io
[18:49] <ubuNoob> usr13 13.10
[18:50] <ubuNoob> usr13 how do i do this symbol | in the terminal
[18:50] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok.  Bring up a terminal and type  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda |pastebinit  #And show us what it says.
[18:50] <multi_io> yeah, I'm on server 13.10, and I don't see any openssl 1.0.1f package after aptitude update
[18:50] <multi_io> thanks for the link
[18:50] <usr13> ubuNoob: Do you see \  just above the Enter key on the right side?
[18:50] <RFleming> multi_io, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least that shown on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ for your release of Ubuntu
[18:50] <Jordan_U> JaySlaven: OK. First, is buying a different wireless card an option for you? Ralink cards like this one have notoriously bad linux drivers, whereas cards from Intel for example generally work great out of the box.
[18:50] <usr13> ubuNoob: Is this a Desktop PC?
[18:50] <RFleming> multi_io, openssl hasn't changed... libssl1.0.0 has
[18:51] <ubuNoob> usr13 yes
[18:51] <JaySlaven> Jordan_U: not really, can you link me a cheap one?
[18:51] <usr13> ubuNoob: Upper-case \  ?  Right?  (US Keyboard?)
[18:51] <ubuNoob> usr13 UK pl
[18:51] <usr13> ubuNoob: Or ______________?
[18:52] <AR0W> heya
[18:52] <Jordan_U> JaySlaven: To be honest, I rarely actually buy hardware, but I expect that newegg has many good options.
[18:52] <RFleming> JaySlaven, http://canada.newark.com/element14/wipi/module-wifi-usb-for-raspberry/dp/07W8938
[18:52] <RFleming> $14
[18:52] <usr13> ubuNoob: You should see it there somewhere, it will look like --  only vertical, (not horizontal), (on the keyboard).
[18:52] <sigint88> will  openssl    0.9.8k-7ubuntu8 be vulnerable as well?
[18:53] <usr13> ubuNoob: Usually uppercase on the \ key.
[18:53] <RFleming> sigint88, it's libssl that's vulnerable
[18:53] <sigint88> sheesh thx RFleming
[18:53] <multi_io> RFleming: thanks
[18:53] <ubuNoob> usr12 i get > instead
[18:54] <JaySlaven> Jordan_U: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Pi-Hut-Adapter-Raspberry/dp/B009FA2UYK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396983233&sr=8-1&keywords=raspberry+pi+usb+wifi??
[18:54] <RFleming> sigint88, run dpgk-query -W libssl1.0.0 ... what does it say?
[18:54] <rww> sigint88: 0.9.8 is not vulnerable.
[18:55] <sigint88> rww:ok, do you have a link to the CVE notes?
[18:55] <tsaavik> No command 'dpgk-query' found :D he wants dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0
[18:55] <Jordan_U> JaySlaven: RFleming: I'd generally recommend PCI wireless cards over USB adaptors.
[18:55] <sigint88> RFleming: there was a typo in ur last msg <dpgk-query -W libssl1.0.0 > "dpkg"
[18:56] <RFleming> whoops
[18:56] <sigint88> the results are No packages found matching libssl1.0.0.
[18:56] <pikachewbacca> Is anyone experienced with using DosBox?
[18:56] <sigint88> no worries
[18:56] <rww> sigint88: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ , http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-0160.html , http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140407.txt
[18:56] <sigint88> thx rww
[18:56] <RFleming> yeah... the older 1.0.0 and less is not vulnerable
[18:56] <RFleming> someone oopsed 1.0.1
[18:56] <sigint88> nice good stuff
[18:57] <pikachewbacca> Does anyone use DosBox?
[18:57] <Jordan_U> !anyone | pikachewbacca
[18:58] <ubuNoob> usr12 this is seriois
[18:58] <ubuNoob> usr13
[18:58] <pikachewbacca> If so, how do you switch drives on the fly?
[18:58] <Jordan_U> pikachewbacca: Rather than asking if anyone uses some piece of software, just ask your actual question. If anyone knows the answer, they will answer.
[18:58] <pikachewbacca> ok
[18:59] <dupingping> Hi
[18:59] <sigint88> i mean any idea on why the openssl and gnuTLS has had issues recently?
[18:59] <pikachewbacca> Like if I set up some drives, booted an OS, and now I want to add/remove drives.
[18:59] <dupingping> Who can help me?
[18:59] <dupingping> about Ubuntu and LSB?
[18:59] <sigint88> dupingping: umm what do u need
[19:00] <usr13> ubuNoob: Still there?
[19:00] <ubuNoob> usr13 yes
[19:00] <usr13> ubuNoob: http://imagebin.org/304656
[19:00] <zzxc> Hey this has probably been covered already but does anyone know if the openssl for 12.04 has been fixed?
[19:00] <dupingping> umm. My question is long. But same question is being in http://askubuntu.com/questions/445116/ubuntu-12-04-is-certified-with-lsb4-0-exactly
[19:00] <tsaavik> anyone know a way to see what libssl apache is dynamically loading?
[19:01] <dupingping> sigint88: umm. My question is long. But same question is being in http://askubuntu.com/questions/445116/ubuntu-12-04-is-certified-with-lsb4-0-exactly
[19:01] <ubuNoob> usr13 i get `
[19:01] <dupingping> it's other wrote.
[19:01] <zzxc> (for the heartbleed vulnerability)
[19:02] <RFleming> !sslbug | zzxc
[19:02] <usr13> ubuNoob: Show us the output of   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[19:02] <zzxc> thanks RFleming.
[19:02] <RFleming> zzxc, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least that shown on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ for your release of Ubuntu
[19:03] <RFleming> zzxc, in this case 12.04
[19:03] <RFleming> zzxc, should be 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[19:04] <usr13> ubuNoob: Bring up a terminal and type  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda |pastebinit  #And show us what it says.
[19:04] <jarick> Hi. I've just upgraded a laptop to lubuntu 13.10, and am running the lxde session. I appear to have gnome-keyring-daemon started, however, my global environmental variable SSH_AUTH_SOCK is not correctly set to the /run/... socket.
[19:05] <jarick> The socket exists, and if I manually reexport it, I get the gnome-keyring dialog
[19:05] <jarick> Suggestions on how to fix/troubleshoot?
[19:05] <sigint88> dupingping: if i understand correctly . you should b able to get ur ans by running
[19:05] <sigint88> lsb_release -a
[19:05] <RFleming> jarick, the friendly folks at #lubuntu may be more helpful
[19:05] <tsaavik> ah, figured out my issue, I'm running mod_spdy which has it's own mod_ssl, doh
[19:05] <jarick> RFleming: I've asked the same question there. No response yet, so I decided to chance it here.
[19:05] <sigint88> dupingping: if <No LSB modules are available> is returned u need to load modules
[19:06] <RFleming> !patience | jarick
[19:06] <zzxc> Its currently 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.5. This is actually on a server I meant to ask this in the other channel. I've been trying to get them to do a security upgrade but its hard to convince people that downtime is a requirement for security.
[19:06] <RFleming> :)
[19:06] <sigint88> * i think
[19:06] <jarick> RFleming: Heh. Yeah.
[19:06] <jjavaholic> http://askubuntu.com/questions/411061/xorg-high-cpu-when-redrawing
[19:06] <RFleming> sigint88, here's a means of upgrading just libssl and openssh
[19:06] <RFleming> https://gist.github.com/coderanger/10084033
[19:06] <dupingping> sigint88: I think that <No LSB modules are available> is not.
[19:06] <ubuNoob> usr13 will take a picture
[19:07] <FlacBean02> What would be the best command for gathering system information for submission in a bug report?
[19:07] <dupingping> sigint88: Did you look shoot image?
[19:07] <zzxc> thank you again RFleming
[19:07] <Jordan_U> FlacBean02: ubuntu-bug packagename
[19:07] <RFleming> zzxc, https://gist.github.com/coderanger/10084033
[19:07] <RFleming> that'll just do libssl and openssh
[19:07] <OerHeks> !bug | FlacBean02
[19:08] <dupingping> sigint88: as "Core Tests: Failures:9", what about you think?
[19:08] <dupingping> sigint88: as "Core Tests: Failures:9", what about do 'you think?
[19:08] <FlacBean02> The problem is im not sure what package is causing it other then the kernel version
[19:08] <FlacBean02> The problem is my desktop wont appear on certain kernels so its either a kernel bug or driver bug
[19:09] <sigint88> dupingping: not sure
[19:09] <sigint88> sry
[19:09] <dupingping> sigint88: OK, thank you for your long time.
[19:09] <OerHeks> FlacBean02, 'certain kernels" sounds like you installed a custum kernel?
[19:10] <ubuNoob> usr13 http://oi60.tinypic.com/1zmyrk7.jpg
[19:10] <FlacBean02> actually its the ones ubuntu build itself i.e through software update, synaptic...
[19:10] <OerHeks> FlacBean02, if it is a kernel that would not start your desktop, use that kernel number as reference
[19:10] <RFleming> ubuNoob, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:11] <FlacBean02> okay
[19:11] <Pici> dupingping: Haven't we been over this before?  Ubunut 12.04 is not an LSB Certified distribution.
[19:11] <usr13> ubuNoob: Sorry, had to leave for a couple minutes, I'm back now
[19:12] <benbro> how can I check if a user has permissions to listen to port 443? (below 1024)
[19:12] <ubuNoob> usr13 np
[19:12] <daftykins> it's also terrible for those with nut allergies
[19:12] <chipotle_> is there a way to install php5.4 on ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS via aptitude?
[19:12] <usr13> ubuNoob: -l  not -1
[19:12] <ubuNoob> RFleming i did that thanks and try running that command
[19:12] <RFleming> ubuNoob, now you can run the commands usr13 is asking
[19:12] <usr13> ubuNoob: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:13] <usr13> ubuNoob: And then:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda |pastebinit
[19:13] <RFleming> benbro, listening on a port isn't assigned user permissions.
[19:13] <ubuNoob> usr13 paste.ubuntu.com/7223087/
[19:13] <RFleming> benbro, it is either listening, or it is not.
[19:14] <RFleming> benbro, you can run netstat -a to see if you have a Local Address of *:443 to Foreign Address *:* in the LISTEN state
[19:15] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok, as I said before you have 4 primary partitions.  So you have 2 choices, add another hard drive, or delete a partition.
[19:15] <mzaza> Does Hyper-V support Ubuntu? Can I install Hyper-V on Ubuntu?
[19:15] <daftykins> mzaza: google it. it's a bit iffy with gen2
[19:15] <ubuNoob> usr13 which one http://oi59.tinypic.com/152n9k0.jpg
[19:16] <daftykins> mzaza: oh you said it the other way around - no you can't use hyper-v tech *on* Linux, it's Microsoft proprietary
[19:16] <RFleming> mzaza, Hyper-V is a Microsoft product, you cannot install Hyper-V on Ubuntu.
[19:17] <daftykins> that echo's come back
[19:17] <RFleming> !virtualization | mzaza
[19:17] <benbro> RFleming: I want to use http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/rfc5766-turn-server
[19:17] <usr13> ubuNoob: It is a UEFI system, Right?
[19:18] <benbro> RFleming: the default ports are >1024 and I want to know if I can use port 443 which requires permissions
[19:18] <usr13> ubuNoob: If it is a UEFI system, the first partition, sda1, is the UEFI partition.  So you can not delete that one.
[19:18] <RFleming> benbro, I don't know anything about that package.
[19:19] <usr13> ubuNoob: Or is it sda3 ?
[19:19] <Jordan_U> usr13: If it were a UEFI system then the drive would be using GPT, and the EFI System Partition would be using fat32 as a filesystem.
[19:19] <Stryker13X> RFleming: level 3 !mal-informatic to underscore !Patience and thanks!
[19:20] <benbro> RFleming: to listen to a port <1024 a user need permissions. I'm trying to understand how to check if a user has such permissions
[19:20] <ubuNoob> usr13 i have no idea
[19:20] <benbro> not if the user is listening right now
[19:20] <ubuNoob> usr13 i will boot back into windows and delete the 80GB unallocated volume i created
[19:20] <Jordan_U> ubuNoob: You're using a feature called "Windows Dynamic Disks", which will make it more difficult to dual boot.
[19:21] <Jordan_U> ubuNoob: If you can, convert back to normal msdos partitions.
[19:21] <usr13> ubuNoob: sda4 is 872G partition. Right>?
[19:21] <ubuNoob> Jordan_U how do i convert back?
[19:22] <RFleming> Stryker13X, a slew of new people are now here, perhaps they have an answer to your question.
[19:22] <Jordan_U> usr13: ubuNoob is using Windows Dynamic disks, what is reported by fdisk -l does not reflect the "partitions" that Windows sees.
[19:23] <usr13> ubuNoob: How about you delete the 80G partition, and shrink the 872G partition to 850G  or so?
[19:23] <usr13> Jordan_U: I see.....
[19:23] <ubuNoob> Jordan_U i imaged my c drive an created a repair disc. how can i do what u said?
[19:23] <usr13> Jordan_U: Then the best thing would be to use gparted.  Right?
[19:24] <ubuNoob> usr13 the packard bell c: is my main documents for windows it is what it called a C drive
[19:24] <RFleming> benbro, a service is either listening on a port, or it is not. A port can be open for every computer, a network, or a specific IP address.
[19:24] <Jordan_U> ubuNoob: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc776315(v=ws.10).aspx Note that that procedure involves removing all volumes from the disk as a first step, so be sure that your backups are good.
[19:24] <usr13> ubuNoob: Yea, and it is 872G.  Right?
[19:24] <RFleming> benbro, ports do not listen if user JSmith is trying to access port 443
[19:25] <benbro> RFleming: a user might have permissions to listen to a port or not. root can use port 80. a normal user can't
[19:25] <ubuNoob> usr13 i will do what Jordan_U said he is the 4th person that have pointed it out today
[19:25] <usr13> ubuNoob: Well, it's actually being reported by MS Windows as being 831.88   Right?
[19:25] <benbro> RFleming: the Apache user need special permissions (or run as root) for listening to port 80. I guess you are not familiar with this area. thanks
[19:26] <ubuNoob> Jodan_U are u they please
[19:26] <usr13> ubuNoob: Yes, that's a good idea.
[19:26]  * RFleming /facepalm
[19:28] <usr13> ubuNoob: Convert to normal msdos partitions, resize the 831.88G drive, (shrink it to about 800G), delete the backup partition, and then come back and do the Ubuntu install.
[19:28] <Beldar> ubuNoob, Be sure to be have backed up what is needed, and here is another tool to make the dynamic a basic setup. http://www.partitionwizard.com/faqvideo/convert-GPT-style-dynamic-disk-to-basic-disk.html
[19:29] <usr13> ubuNoob: You can use a USB drive for backups.
[19:29] <twocarlo> Jpmh: i found the driver ive lookin for thanks for the reply
[19:30] <ubuNoob> Beldar
[19:30] <ubuNoob> i created a system image. is that a good enough backup before i start doing this http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc776315(v=ws.10).aspx
[19:30] <lucido> how can I maintain computer usage statistics for a certain user
[19:30] <lucido> ?
[19:30] <RFleming> ubuNoob, dumb question, but do you not have another hard disk?
[19:31] <diogobaeder> usr13, I'm talking from inside Trusty now. But it only worked by using an image in a USB stick, now I'm having to reinstall some of the programs.
[19:31] <ubuNoob> RFleming i did a "create a system image" into a 500GB external hard drive
[19:39] <FlacBean02> I seriously have no idea how to report this bug. I create an account click report a bug. Brought back to documentation on how to report a bug but dont actually see where to report the bug on launchpad
[19:41] <RFleming> FlacBean02, Go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[19:41] <RFleming> and browse to the 'Determine if the bug is really a bug' section
[19:42] <ubuNoob> RFleming u didnt get back to me
[19:42] <RFleming> ubuNoob, I wasn't assisting you
[19:42] <FlacBean02> Ive came her ein the past for help and was told to file a bug
[19:42] <Jordan_U> FlacBean02: Run "ubuntu bug linux"
[19:43] <RFleming> I just wanted to know if you had a drive you could install Ubuntu on, instead of (potentially) destroying your Microsoft one.
[19:43] <tempname> FlacBean02, "Login to your Launchpad account, then press Alt+F2 and enter ubuntu-bug packagename. In 11.04 and later you can enter ubuntu-bug -w and click on the affected window." --SO
[19:43] <Jordan_U> FlacBean02: Sorry, "ubuntu-bug linux".
[19:44] <fommil> hi all. I'm trying to render some text to an image, and I have a lot of text so I'd like to script it. I'm using imagemagick, but it doesn't seem to understand UTF-8 characters (even though I've checked that the font I'm using supports that glyph). Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong, or can suggest an alternative?
[19:45] <carbocation> any resources for updating your Ubuntu box for Heartbleed?
[19:45] <carbocation> I just did aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade but my libssl is still vulnerable
[19:46] <co_Pencari> ce_sange
[19:46] <Beldar> carbocation, fix is out dist-upgrade at the least when it hits your server links
[19:46] <OerHeks> !sslbug | carbocation
[19:46] <carbocation> ubottu: Beldar: thanks, it's odd that this isn't working for me but maybe my mirrors just aren't seeing it yet
[19:47] <ezrafree> hello
[19:47] <RFleming> carbocation, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least that shown on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ for your release of Ubuntu
[19:47] <fommil> e.g.: printf "\u2318" | convert -size 100x100 label:@- -font unifont-Medium command.png
[19:47] <ezrafree> how could i upgrade to openssl 1.0.1g in ubuntu 13.04
[19:47] <FlacBean02> facepalm
[19:47] <OerHeks> carbocation, how do you tell you are vulnerable? ubuntu does not use the 1.0.1.g number see the usn url
[19:48] <carbocation> OerHeks: ldd `which openssl` | grep ssl
[19:49] <OerHeks> carbocation, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least that shown on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ for your release of Ubuntu, the version number won't change
[19:49] <carbocation> OerHeks: then with the string file, strings (filename from last command) | grep "^OpenSSL "
[19:49] <carbocation> OerHeks: RFleming: Aha, I see that I have multiple libssl1.0.0's...
[19:49] <maximCH> so I seem to have the right version of openssl installed
[19:49] <RFleming> carbocation, the version of openssl won't change... it was recompiled with a new version of libssl, which was patched
[19:49] <maximCH> but filippo.io/Heartbleed still says I'm vulnerable
[19:50] <ajacob> I was getting some kerserver error (details: http://pastebin.com/Q8YUJLDh) would this have to do with the openssl bznz?
[19:51] <ajacob> if so, any idea when things will be back up?
[19:51] <FlacBean02> Got it thanks guys
[19:52] <RFleming> maximCH, you may have open files using the old lib
[19:52] <RFleming> maximCH, keep running sudo lsof -n | grep ssl | grep DEL until no results are returned.
[19:52] <maximCH> I rebooted
[19:52] <bjensen82> RFleming: me too
[19:53] <bjensen82> I mean, whats the package in 12.04.2 that fixes the openssl heartbleed issue?
[19:53] <maximCH> I'm installing the command line on another machine to make sure the web-page works... it's been having load problems.
[19:55] <RFleming> bjensen82, 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[19:55] <bjensen82> RFleming: how can I check which I have installed?
[19:55] <RFleming> bjensen82, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0'
[19:55] <bjensen82> ty
[19:55] <bjensen82> RFleming: output: "libssl1.0.0	1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12"
[19:56] <bjensen82> phew
[19:56] <RFleming> bjensen82, you're patched
[19:56] <RFleming> you may have open files though
[19:56] <bjensen82> Check with lsof -n | grep ssl | grep DEL  ?
[19:56] <carbocation> RFleming: I get: libssl1.0.0:amd64       1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2
[19:57] <RFleming> carbocation, you must be running 13.10
[19:57] <RFleming> carbocation, and you're patched as well
[19:57] <carbocation> RFleming: correct; awesome
[19:57] <carbocation> Thank you.
[19:58] <RFleming> maximCH, what version does yours state?
[19:58] <maximCH> OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[19:58] <maximCH> built on: Mon Apr  7 20:31:55 UTC 2014
[19:58] <maximCH> using 12.04 LTS
[19:58] <RFleming> maximCH, dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0
[19:59] <RFleming> maximCH, OpenSSL 1.0.1 was recompiled with a patched libssl1.0.0.  It's version number won't change
[20:00] <maximCH> libssl1.0.0	1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[20:01] <Koodoo> hi guys
[20:01] <ubuNoob> Jordan_U or uar13 can anyone of u help me please
[20:01] <Koodoo> I need help. I can connect wire but not wireless.
[20:01] <Koodoo> I donno how to fix
[20:02] <asomething>  /msg NickServ identify eyore1936
[20:02] <Jordan_U> asomething: Time to change your password.
[20:02] <usr13> Koodoo: lspci |grep ireless  #Show us what it says.
[20:02] <asomething> ha!
[20:02] <Koodoo> lspci |grep ireless
[20:02] <Koodoo> where do I say that
[20:03] <usr13> Koodoo: In other words Tell us what WiFi device you have.
[20:03] <usr13> Koodoo: iwconfig   #Tell us what that says.
[20:03] <Ben64> Koodoo: is it a laptop, desktop, what wireless card? is it a card? usb? ???
[20:03] <RFleming> maximCH, you have the patched libssl
[20:03] <usr13> Koodoo: lspci |grep ireless  #Show us what it says.
[20:04] <kewlness> hello
[20:04] <RFleming> Hi!
[20:04] <maximCH> RFleming: thanks... but I wonder why http://filippo.io/Heartbleed still thinks it's vulnerable (if I get a result at all)...
[20:04] <Koodoo> laptop pcie card: Ralink RT3290
[20:04] <kewlness> I am having an issue with python's pip - keeps kicking back pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pip==1.5.4
[20:05] <Koodoo> @usr13
[20:05] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok. Yes... What do you need?
[20:05] <kewlness> attempts to update via apt says it is at its newest
[20:06] <usr13> Koodoo: iwconfig   #Tell us what that says.
[20:06] <Koodoo> it says no wireless controller
[20:06] <usr13> Koodoo: It says what?
[20:06] <Koodoo> usr13: No wireless extensions
[20:07] <usr13> Koodoo: iwconfig  |pastebinit
[20:07] <ubuNoob> usr13 what type of back should i do before Change a dynamic disk back to a basic disk
[20:07] <Lequtix> hi
[20:07] <usr13> ubuNoob: To a USB drive of some sort.
[20:07] <Koodoo> http://pastebin.com/rytFRc5U
[20:07] <usr13> Koodoo: Is this a fresh install?
[20:07] <Koodoo> usr13: yea
[20:07] <kewlness> attempts to find anything related have failed me :(
[20:08] <usr13> Koodoo: Ok, the wireless device is wlan0
[20:08] <ubuNoob> usr13 yes USB. i have a 500 GB external hard drive
[20:08] <Lequtix> anyone know of a good irc channel for general conversation
[20:08] <Lequtix> ?
[20:08] <usr13> Koodoo: iwlist wlan0 scan |pastebinit
[20:08] <ubuNoob> usr13 i created a "system image" and also a "system repair dsic"
[20:09] <kewlness> I apologize if this is the wrong chat - if somebody could point me in the correct direction I would appreciate it :)
[20:09] <usr13> ubuNoob: The whole drive?  (That's a bit excessive!)
[20:09] <RFleming> maximCH, I dunno.
[20:09] <RFleming> !ot | Lequtix
[20:10] <ubuNoob> usr13 what u mean "the whole drive"
[20:10] <RFleming> Lequtix, you still have to behave though :)
[20:10] <usr13> ubuNoob: "system repair disc"?  Don't know if that is necessary either.  (Just back up your important data.)
[20:10] <usr13> ubuNoob: You said "i created a "system image" and also a "system repair dsic"
[20:11] <OerHeks> !alis > Lequtix
[20:11] <usr13> ubuNoob: Just back up your important data.
[20:11] <ubuNoob> usr13 what is what i have done
[20:11] <usr13> ubuNoob: Ok, good.
[20:11] <usr13> ubuNoob: Now you can move on with setting asside free space for the Ubuntu install.
[20:11] <ubuNoob> usr13 backup as in using the windows option "Create a system image"?
[20:11] <Lequtix> ok saw it ubottu
[20:12] <Lequtix> ty
[20:14] <[Gentoo]> ubuNoob: just copy it for data
[20:14] <[Gentoo]> to somewhere else
[20:14] <usr13> ubuNoob: There are a lot of folks here that are really with Ubuntu / Linux.  When you have a Ubuntu related question, ask them as clearly as you can and supply as much detail as you can and you'll get good results.
[20:16] <usr13> ubuNoob: In order to backup your files, just pick out what you really need to not loose, (like My Documents), and copy it to a USB drive where it is safe.
[20:17] <ubuNoob> usr13 i create a system image like this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/4241/how-to-create-a-system-image-in-windows-7/
[20:17] <usr13> ubuNoob: Sorry, I meant to say, "really *good* with Ubuntu"...
[20:17] <RFleming> [Gentoo], You're drunk!  #gentoo is over there ---> :)
[20:18] <[Gentoo]> ubuNoob: you're better off using clonezilla prob
[20:18] <usr13> ubuNoob: I do not think that is something you need to do.  (But it's up to you.) (It's not what *I* would do.)
[20:18] <lorddune> Hello people, I am having a problem with my root, can anyone give me advice
[20:19] <usr13> lorddune: Sure.  What is your question?
[20:19] <RFleming> lorddune, advice is free... you may get what you pay for :)
[20:19] <ubuNoob> usr13 i am anout to Change a dynamic disk back to a basic disk which is my c drive
[20:19] <usr13> ubuNoob: Good
[20:19] <usr13> lorddune: How can we help you?
[20:19] <ubuNoob> usr13 so i need to back up it up
[20:19] <lorddune> haha thanks. well, i started having problems a few months ago, never caught what was going on. now my system takes a long time to boot up.
[20:20] <lorddune> SMART says I have 2 bad sectors
[20:20] <Balzy> hello! I'm a kubuntu user and I'm looking for a good mail sw, which one would you suggest? Kmail? Mozilla's? anything else?
[20:20] <usr13> Balzy: Thunderbird
[20:20] <RFleming> lorddune, I'd get yourself a new disk and dd yourself to nirvana
[20:20] <lorddune> If I try to access the hard drive, I still can
[20:20] <[Gentoo]> Balzy: thunderbord for gui mutt for cli
[20:20] <compdoc> lorddune, thats not good
[20:20] <ubuNoob> usr13 i create a system image which backs up all my c drice
[20:20] <lorddune> haha yes, I agree wholeheartedly
[20:21] <ubuNoob> usr13 drive
[20:21] <lorddune> I bought a new HDD, so what is the bext thing to do next
[20:21] <[Gentoo]> Balzy: although thunderbird is gtk so a kde app might fit in nicer
[20:21] <RFleming> assuming bad disk is sda and good disk is sdb ...
[20:21] <RFleming> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=4096 conv=notrunc,noerror,sync
[20:22] <lorddune> yeah, will Ubuntu allow me to install a new OS on the new HDD
[20:22] <delinquentme> is cat a line-by-line util ?
[20:22] <RFleming> lorddune, boot from a livecd and run dd to dupe ... or get a clonezilla livecd and do it that way
[20:22] <ubuNoob> Gentoo last time i try to use clonezilla it was going to clone all 1TB space. i only use about 400 of it
[20:22] <Balzy> [Gentoo] , usr13 thx, well there's kmail already installed, all I need is a good program to download and manage mails so that I can easily search them and have a safe backup copy
[20:23] <lorddune> or should I just remove old HDD, install a fresh version of Ubuntu, then backup files later
[20:23] <ubuNoob> Gentoo and my hard drive is only 500GB
[20:23] <RFleming> lorddune, if you use dd or clonezilla, it'll make a sector by sector copy of your old HDD, meaning your OS and everything on it will still be there
[20:23] <[Gentoo]> ubuNoob: clonezilla will compress the files, it should let you
[20:23] <lorddune> yeah, I don't trust the old OS
[20:23] <[Gentoo]> i havent tried for a long time backing up to a smaller drive
[20:23] <Balzy> I'm not a newbie to linux although I feel ashamed to admit I've always checked mails online
[20:23] <lorddune> it was 12.04 LTS and always seemed not quite right
[20:23] <RFleming> lorddune, it's up to you whether or not you want to install fresh, but first things first... you need to get your data off that old drive
[20:24] <kewlness> can somebody assist me with a python pip version error - details can be found here: https://gist.github.com/kewlness/336be71bb1ec615265e8
[20:24] <[Gentoo]> Balzy: i use mutt myself even though its cli its good
[20:24] <[Gentoo]> can use it over ssh anywhere
[20:24] <kewlness> mutt is the best ever
[20:24] <lorddune> I got my important stuff backed up to both a cloud and an external HDD so no worries about the data
[20:24] <lorddune> my question is how to go about installing the new HDD
[20:25] <RFleming> lorddune, make sure you get other important data that doesn't seem important...
[20:25] <RFleming> ... like .bash*, .config, .git*
[20:25] <lorddune> I bought a 1 TB HDD that has no SSD memery at all
[20:25] <lorddune> and the one that is corrupt is under warranty, has 2 TB and has 32 GB of SSD
[20:25] <Balzy> [Gentoo] seems good, does it have a good gui too? although console would be fine ;)
[20:25] <[Gentoo]> Balzy: no only cli
[20:26] <lorddune> so which one should I eventually put the OS on
[20:26] <eternally_on> cli?  Command Line Interface?
[20:26] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: out of a hdd or ssd?
[20:26] <Balzy> okay, I'm trying it right now, thank you all
[20:26] <RFleming> lorddune, the one that has bad sectors should go in for warranty repair... install to your new drive, or another drive... any other drive except the failing drive.
[20:26] <SchrodingersScat> eternally_on: correct
[20:27] <lorddune> the HDD that is going bad has a partial SSD. 2 TB storage with 32 GB SSD built into it
[20:27]  * eternally_on thanks SchrodingersScat, silently observing and learning. 
[20:27] <lorddune> I always wondered if Linux would brick that though
[20:27] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: well dont put the os on the bad one
[20:27] <[Gentoo]> bit of a stupid question lol
[20:27] <lorddune> lol, it's under warranty, I am getting a replacement from Seagate
[20:28] <feanor> hey, I need some help with c++ (maybe on priv) anyone?
[20:28] <lorddune> my question is in your guys opinion, does Linux brick SSD's because of the journaling
[20:28] <[Gentoo]> no
[20:28] <[Gentoo]> not at all
[20:28] <RFleming> no
[20:28] <[Gentoo]> ive had linux on the same ssd since 2009
[20:28] <[Gentoo]> and i can the sdd all day long
[20:29] <RFleming> [Gentoo], time for a new SSD... they've improved since 2009 :)
[20:29] <[Gentoo]> i got a vertex2
[20:29] <[Gentoo]> its more than fast enough for me
[20:29] <lorddune> hmm ok, i've read not to use SSD's with Linux online but wasn't sure what the official opinions of people in the know were
[20:29] <RFleming> ok, not that much :)
[20:29] <[Gentoo]> i know newer ones are a lot faster but i dont need it that fast
[20:29] <RFleming> ssd's will soon be the only option.
[20:29] <[Gentoo]> yeah
[20:30] <[Gentoo]> one day
[20:30] <[Gentoo]> hdds will be like vhs
[20:30] <[Gentoo]> or theyl bring out something beter than ssds
[20:30] <lorddune> all things being equal, should I load my OS from the HDD with the partial SSD or the other one or makes no difference
[20:30] <k1l> lorddune: no it doesnt. and ssds have same time to death ratio as regular hdds have
[20:30] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: the good one
[20:30] <RFleming> lorddune, the problems with ssd's in the past were how they failed.  Some were really unreliable, some still are.  If you align your partitions right, and do proper maintenance, then you're golden
[20:31] <feanor> hey, I need some help with c++ (maybe on priv) anyone?
[20:31] <[Gentoo]> you dont have to do much by default now on linux for an ssd
[20:31] <lorddune> RFleming: thanks.
[20:31] <RFleming> maybe throw in discard in /etc/fstab, or run an fstrim cron job, and you're set
[20:31] <Pici> feanor: try ##c++ (you'll need to be registered and identifted to join, see #freenode for help on that)
[20:32] <[Gentoo]> RFleming: discard isnt always needed
[20:32] <[Gentoo]> most ssds do a similar thing by themselves
[20:32] <RFleming> lorddune, I tend to have machines with large amounts of RAM, so I usually mount /tmp and /var/tmp into tmpfs
[20:32] <lorddune> RFleming: yeah I tweaked the journaling years ago when I installed this HDD but not a computer junkie
[20:32] <[Gentoo]>  /tmp is normally mounted tmpfs nowadays
[20:33] <[Gentoo]> and some FS automatically detect ssds on mkfs
[20:33] <RFleming> I also reduce swappiness and vfs cache pressure, without ill affect
[20:33] <kewlness> I am having a version issue with python-pip though apt tells me it is up to date - could somebody provide the heroic assist? :) Details here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7223418/
[20:33] <lorddune> i dont even know when this HDD started going bad actually
[20:34] <RFleming> lorddune, if you're getting SMART bad sector alerts, it isn't the SDD part :)
[20:34] <fommil> if anybody has any ideas about my imagemagick question, I've also placed it on SO: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/123802
[20:34] <lorddune> well that's the thing though RFleming . I can acces most of the HDD, but SMART cannot even see the HDD anymore
[20:35] <RFleming> controller
[20:35] <lorddune> RFleming: so not sure if the HDD is actually bad or if the root is corrupt
[20:35] <eternally_on> Can a .vdi be used to boot up in roughly the same manner as a LiveDisk?  Somewhat newb with Linux, still learning a lot.
[20:36] <RFleming> lorddune, on a livecd, can you see the drive?
[20:36] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: what signs are there of it going bad?
[20:36] <[Gentoo]> eternally_on: yes
[20:36] <[Gentoo]> eternally_on: you have to convert it to raw
[20:36] <[Gentoo]> img file
[20:36] <[Gentoo]> then dd it to a disk
[20:36] <eternally_on> dd?
[20:36] <[Gentoo]> yes copy to drive
[20:36] <lorddune> RFleming: and [Gentoo] the computer takes eons to load
[20:37] <RFleming> lorddune, from a livecd?
[20:37] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: make sure all the hardware will work
[20:37] <[Gentoo]> like if you installed drivers etc on the .vdi
[20:38] <lorddune> RFleming: [Gentoo] yes, it's OK from a live cd load. did a memtest, it's fine, BIOS looks fine. HDD not accessible from livecd
[20:38] <RFleming> lorddune, then the disk is dead
[20:38] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: does it show up in fdisk -l?
[20:39] <RFleming> gparted should at least see the disk
[20:39] <[Gentoo]> yeah
[20:39] <lorddune> RFleming: no, it's not. i can still copy and write to that HDD
[20:39] <eternally_on> Gentoo:  Could the Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu 12.04 be used to put the image on a flashdrive once it's converted to raw?
[20:39] <[Gentoo]> eternally_on: no idea
[20:39] <[Gentoo]> you're better off dd'ing the img to the drive
[20:39] <RFleming> eternally_on, I believe the SDC can create a liveusb image of your system
[20:40] <lorddune> RFleming: [Gentoo] I was fiddling around with root repair last night
[20:40] <RFleming> lorddune, I'm with [Gentoo] on this.  DD the failing drive either to a file, or another disk
[20:41] <RFleming> lorddune, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && fdisk -l | pastebinit
[20:41] <RFleming> (from livecd)
[20:42]  * cce7 updated to today's trusty beta, and my 3-display orientation settings arn't sticking.  Am I missing something?
[20:42] <lorddune> RFleming: [Gentoo] the problem I have is my cload and portable HD have no room left at all. I want to make sure of my procedures installing the new HDD so I don't lose the old stuff.
[20:43] <RFleming> !ubuntu+1 | cce7
[20:43] <cce7> ok!
[20:43] <cce7> (thank you kindly)
[20:43] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: im confused..
[20:43] <RFleming> cce7, you're welcome!
[20:44] <lorddune> [Gentoo]: me too, that's why I am here
[20:44] <RFleming> lorddune, you might need another disk :)
[20:44] <eternally_on> So I have this .vdi in a .bz2, which if I think I know what I'm talking about is type of compressed archive, correct?  And then within this .bz2, alongside the .vdi are other .vbox and .vbox-prev files.  Would I need to convert these as well or just convert the .vdi into a raw image?
[20:44] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: so what disk do you need to install the OS to?
[20:44] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: and has that disk got partitions?
[20:44] <[Gentoo]> that you need
[20:44] <lorddune> RFleming: [Gentoo] I bought a new HDD to install. Want to make sure I don't brick the other one though.
[20:44] <ubuNoob> Gentoo
[20:45] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: why would you brick it
[20:45] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: so you want to install the os to the new drive?
[20:45] <ubuNoob> Gentoo clonezilla USB or DVD? my use is 500GB and dvd is only 4.7GB
[20:45] <[Gentoo]> if so why is there a problem
[20:45] <RFleming> [Gentoo], problem 1. lorddune has a failing disk.  Problem 2. New disk is smaller than failing disk.  Problem 3. lorddune doesn't have any other disks he can dump an image of his failing disk to.
[20:45] <[Gentoo]> ubuNoob: eh?
[20:45] <[Gentoo]> RFleming: ok
[20:45] <lorddune> [Gentoo]: the last time I had a drive fail like this, I powered down the PC, put in the new HDD and the old one was toast when I fired it back up
[20:46] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: how big is the failing drive>?
[20:46] <RFleming> lorddune, so you have already copied everything off the failing drive?
[20:46] <[Gentoo]> and how big is the new empty drive
[20:46] <RFleming> [Gentoo], 2TB
[20:46] <usr13> RFleming: Sounds like lorddune  has one too many problems.
[20:46] <lorddune> [Gentoo]: 2TB
[20:46] <[Gentoo]> and the new one?
[20:46] <RFleming> [Gentoo], 1TB
[20:46] <lorddune> [Gentoo]: 1TB
[20:46] <ubuNoob> Gentoo for clonezilla
[20:47] <RFleming> lorddune, you happen to have any 2TB disks lying around?
[20:47] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: and you cant access the new drive?
[20:47] <[Gentoo]> the old one i mean
[20:47] <lorddune> [Gentoo]: i barely have 200 gig of data though
[20:47] <[Gentoo]> well what is the output of fdisk -l
[20:47] <[Gentoo]> paste it
[20:47] <[Gentoo]> please
[20:47] <RFleming> lorddune,  fdisk -l | pastebinit
[20:47] <[Gentoo]> if you can try to mount it if its seen then we can see an error
[20:48] <lorddune> I am on the computer
[20:48] <lorddune> how am I gonna live disk without rebooting
[20:48] <[Gentoo]> if it mounts then its good
[20:48] <RFleming> [Gentoo], he's afraid to turn his system off and boot from livecd in the event the disk doesn't come back up
[20:48] <[Gentoo]> so hes on the failing disk now?
[20:48] <lorddune> RFleming: [Gentoo] EXACTLY!!
[20:48] <lorddune> [Gentoo]: yup
[20:48] <[Gentoo]> ok
[20:48] <[Gentoo]> easy then
[20:49] <[Gentoo]> partition the new disk
[20:49] <usr13> ubuNoob: Have you started the install yet?
[20:49] <ubuNoob> Gentoo u recommanded clonezille
[20:49] <[Gentoo]> rsync your current in use system straight over
[20:49] <ubuNoob> usr13 i am still trying to back up
[20:49] <lorddune> [Gentoo]: no, the HDD is still in the box in the bag from MicroCenter lol
[20:49] <[Gentoo]> is it sata?
[20:49] <usr13> ubuNoob: Backup what ___________?
[20:49] <[Gentoo]> i think theyre plug and play
[20:49] <[Gentoo]> never tried it though
[20:49] <[Gentoo]> try it
[20:49] <RFleming> lorddune, it'll be fine
[20:50] <ubuNoob> usr13 i need to Convert Dynamic Disk to Basic
[20:50] <usr13> ubuNoob: _________MY Documents _________?
[20:50] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: but yes it should be fine
[20:50] <ubuNoob> usr13 so i need to back it up first
[20:50] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: why do you think its gona break on reboot?
[20:50] <lorddune> RFleming: [Gentoo] maybe I can be reaaaaaal careful and install the HDD with power on (just kidding)
[20:50] <usr13> ubuNoob: Just copy the files to a USB drive.
[20:50] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: thats what i meant
[20:50] <[Gentoo]> lorddune: i heard it works on sata i could be wrong
[20:51] <lorddune> [Gentoo]: the last time I lost a drive like this and installed a new OS, the other HDD was unreadable
[20:51] <[Gentoo]> i wouldnt be so paranoid
[20:51] <[Gentoo]> but
[20:51] <AR0W> heyo
[20:51] <[Gentoo]> like i said just rsync it all over while running
[20:52] <[Gentoo]> get the same result either way
[20:52] <[Gentoo]> rsync -vaHAX --exclude {/proc,/sys} /newpartition
[20:52] <lorddune> [Gentoo]: OK. Paranoia is good though
[20:52] <[Gentoo]> --exclude all dirs you dont want
[20:53] <usr13> ubuNoob: Everything you need to backup is more-than-likely in My Documents, so just copy the whole directory to the USB drive.
[20:53] <[Gentoo]> like proc sys mnt/* etc
[20:53] <RFleming> lorddune, sata is hotswap.  When putting the new drive on your board, apply power first, then the SATA cable
[20:53] <lorddune> [Gentoo]: RFleming thanks a lot, might check in later and let you know what happens
[20:53] <RFleming> ubuntu should detect the change, then you rsync it
[20:54] <ubuNoob> usr13 okay am doing it now thanks again
[20:54] <lorddune> RFleming: really, you can do that without messing up the boards?
[20:54] <RFleming> lorddune, you'll still need a new drive to install ubuntu though
[20:54] <RFleming> lorddune, you're one drive short.
[20:54] <[Gentoo]> RFleming: no because partition
[20:54] <RFleming> lorddune, yeah, yes you can.
[20:54] <[Gentoo]> hes using 200gb
[20:54] <[Gentoo]> which leaves 800 for ubuntu lol
[20:55] <RFleming> [Gentoo], his system partition is only 200GB on a 2TB drive?
[20:55] <[Gentoo]> he said hes only using 200gb of it
[20:55] <[Gentoo]> the disk
[20:55] <lorddune> yeah my system partition on that drive was basically the entire drive
[20:56] <[Gentoo]> im too tired for this lol
[20:56] <lorddune> I had another HDD that fried was 500 gig and a 1 TB external
[20:56] <lorddune> so never had any storage or backup issues
[20:57] <[Gentoo]> so the amount of data you need to back up is more than 1TB?
[20:57] <lorddune> nooo
[20:57] <[Gentoo]> o ok
[20:57] <lorddune> under 200 gig
[20:57] <[Gentoo]> you could have had this all done by now lol
[20:57] <lorddune> yeah i am procrastinating
[20:57] <[Gentoo]> try plugging the new drive in see if it works
[20:57] <[Gentoo]> if it dont
[20:57] <lorddune> LOOL
[20:57] <RFleming> lorddune, do you happen to have 200GB on another drive other than the 1TB drive you bought?
[20:57] <[Gentoo]> then you havent got a choice but to reboot anyway
[20:58] <lorddune> let me check
[20:59] <lorddune> no, don't have room
[20:59] <[Gentoo]> there is honestly nothing else to say as they are your only 2 options
[20:59] <RFleming> lorddune, which is more important, the data on that drive, or the data on your failing drive? :)
[20:59] <lorddune> all of the partitions are too small, 200 gig or so and I have loads of info on each partition
[20:59]  * eliasps is away: I'm away or busy, leave a message and I'll get back to you.
[20:59] <RFleming> lorddune, you may need to make some sacrifices :)
[20:59]  * eliasps is back (gone 00:00:16)
[20:59] <RFleming> lorddune, or go buy a 1TB external drive :)
[21:00] <lorddune> all of my desktop files I saved.
[21:00] <lorddune> work stuff is saved
[21:00] <RFleming> lorddune, if it's all saved, then why are we having this discussion? :)
[21:00] <lorddune> I'll lose countless games thats about it
[21:01] <lorddune> RFleming: was asking advice about OS
[21:01] <k1l> !away > eliasps
[21:01] <lorddune> RFleming: should I install 12.04 LTS again or just update now to the new HDD
[21:01] <RFleming> lorddune, so if this disk failed would you be upset?
[21:02] <lorddune> RFleming: not at all, I am mailing it back to Segate as it has another 2 years warranty
[21:02] <RFleming> lorddune, you could always get 14.04 LTS
[21:02] <RFleming> it isn't officially released yet, but it's pretty damned stable
[21:02] <Stryker13X> Hello. How are you? anyone ever heard of the proprietary chicken application?
[21:02] <lorddune> i wasn't sure if you could install later versions and still go backwards for like backups.....
[21:03] <k1l> !ot | Stryker13X
[21:03] <Stryker13X> okay sorry
[21:03] <lorddune> so a backup for 12.04 LTS can be seen by 14 LTS?
[21:03] <RFleming> lorddune, are you referring to say deja-dup?
[21:04] <RFleming> lorddune, or did you backup a different method?
[21:04] <lorddune> RFleming: no, Backup as in Backup from Ubuntu
[21:04] <RFleming> isn't backup deja-dup?
[21:05] <RFleming> or was it different in 12.04 LTS?
[21:05] <lorddune> RFleming: It's called "Backup" on my version of Ubuntu
[21:05] <RFleming> can you go to a terminal
[21:05] <lorddune> RFleming: has a safe icon or whatever
[21:05] <lorddune> sure, yeah have a terminal open
[21:07] <ubuNoob> usr13 how long will u be online for?
[21:07] <ubuNoob> usr13 my document files/folders gonna take a few mins
[21:08] <lorddune> RFleming: oh, you are talking about Ubuntu One
[21:08] <RFleming> lorddune, try apt-get -s install deja-dup
[21:08] <lorddune> RFleming: I have that
[21:08] <RFleming> that's what you used for backup :)
[21:08] <lorddune> RFleming: I use a different backup I guess
[21:08] <RFleming> no, Ubuntu calls deja-dup backup
[21:09] <lorddune> RFleming: the one I use maybe came with Ubuntu Tweak or something
[21:09] <RFleming> lorddune, no... they call deja-dup Backups
[21:09] <lorddune> RFleming: yeah, I have a file backed up on Ubuntu One called Deja-Dup
[21:09] <RFleming> that program only backed up your home directory, not the OS
[21:10] <lorddune> RFleming: deja dup is a small file
[21:10] <RFleming> lorddune, some of the config files might not match, but yeah you can use your old backup on a new os install
[21:10] <RFleming> lorddune, where did you run your backup to?
[21:10] <lorddune> RFleming: the other program I use to backup is a backup for everything (that I selected)
[21:11] <lorddune> RFleming: cool. I can burn a new disc for 14 LTS if needed
[21:11] <RFleming> lorddune, it's still in 'beta'
[21:11] <lorddune> RFleming: the only install disc I have burned was penguin though
[21:12] <RFleming> pangolin? :)
[21:12] <lorddune> RFleming: I actually might go back to penguin
[21:12] <lorddune> RFleming: never had one problem with that OS
[21:12] <lolcat> hello
[21:12] <lorddune> RFleming: started having problems with 12.04 actually
[21:12] <lolcat> is ubuntu 14.04 terribly slow at booting?
[21:12] <agostin> hello everybody,which are applications that i need in Ubuntu
[21:12] <RFleming> lorddune, good luck in your adventure! :)
[21:13] <lorddune> rf RFleming hahaha THANKS
[21:13] <RFleming> lolcat, no :)
[21:13] <lorddune> RFleming: I'll be back in a few hours or a few days one way or another!!
[21:13] <RFleming> agostin, whichever programs you need.
[21:13] <lolcat> RFleming: It seems to use like 4 times as long as 13.10
[21:13] <RFleming> I dunno...
[21:13] <RFleming> !ubuntu+1 | lolcat
[21:13] <lolcat> Maybe lvm is crap
[21:13] <lorddune> RFleming: good theng we got tablets and phones for work nowadays too!!
[21:13] <RFleming> maybe they can help you out
[21:14] <RFleming> lorddune, haha, yeah.
[21:14] <DoomBoom> is the package libbullet-dev missing a header file? http://pastebin.com/PT1NQXKn
[21:14] <lorddune> RFleming: thanks again, i appreciate your time very much. you too gentoo
[21:14] <k1l> agostin: just use ubuntu, and if you need a program see in software center if there is something for you. every user got other "important" programs
[21:14] <lorddune> RFleming: tell gentoo I said thanks if you see him later, he's offline
[21:14] <agostin> thnx
[21:14] <OerHeks> lolcat install bootchart to see what is taking so long?
[21:15] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[21:15] <OerHeks> after the next reboot = after every reboot :-D
[21:15] <RFleming> lorddune, will do... if I remember :)
[21:16] <lolcat> OerHeks: fancy
[21:16] <lolcat> OerHeks: I like it when reboot is quicker than taking a zip of coffe
[21:17] <longbonglungfish> hello all, i'm a xubuntu user (13.10) and am having a very obnoxious issue with a particular website that i need to access for an m.a. program. the website is as follows; https://websql.brooklyn.cuny.edu/graduate/ the issue is that whether i'm using midori, firefox or even the internal browser of rssowl, the site will never load, unless i fully disable javascript in the browser. this is highly problematic, as in or
[21:17] <longbonglungfish> der for me to utilize the site, i must have javascript enabled. i asked a friend who runs os x to test out the site, and it loads and works fine for him, with javascript enabled. another person tested it out under puppy linux and had similar success. i brought this issue to the xubuntu specific forum and much to my chagrin, people there didn't seem to understand that javascript is not java, and they were of very li
[21:17] <longbonglungfish> ttle help, which is why i'm asking around here. can anyone tell me what might be causing this issue and how to remedy it? please let me know and many thanks in advance.
[21:17] <OerHeks> longbonglungfish, try chrome or chromium too, i like chrome best
[21:18] <hexacode> anyone know the best online tutorial for what linux is....explained to a windows user who's beginning to learn OOP concepts.
[21:18] <DoomBoom> longbonglungfish: Hmm... yeah it doesn't load for me either when I enable js
[21:18] <DoomBoom> also on xubuntu
[21:19] <DoomBoom> must be something weird going on in that code
[21:19] <katsumeblisk> hexacode: OOP (if you mean Object Oriented Programming) has nothing to do with knowing how to use Linux. :)
[21:19] <longbonglungfish> holy cow doomboom! that at-least makes me feel a little better.
[21:19] <RFleming> longbonglungfish, using xubuntu 14.04, I could load that site... took nearly 5 minutes on a 100Mbps uplink, but it loaded
[21:19] <Beldar> longbonglungfish, Try a addon like user agent switcher in FF, have it read as another browser.
[21:19] <RFleming> longbonglungfish, Oh, on Chrome
[21:19] <Beldar> like IE
[21:19] <longbonglungfish> 5 minutes. what is wrong with that site!?
[21:20] <RFleming> longbonglungfish, CS used as labour, is my guess
[21:20] <RFleming> first year ones at that :)
[21:20] <RFleming> probably was a group project for 40% of their mark
[21:20] <longbonglungfish> hahahah. man oh man. mine has been loading for over 20 minutes now.
[21:20] <Beldar> longbonglungfish, My college changed their OS in this area while I was there, both had some problem or another with linux.
[21:21] <DoomBoom> what Beldar suggested is a good idea, if it's not loading because it gets stuck on an unexpected os/browser combination or something that could fix it
[21:21] <longbonglungfish> hmm... i'll try it out with a different user agent. maybe it'll load faster.
[21:22] <k1l> longbonglungfish: in chromium it just shows a white page and loads. but when i press the stop button it shows most of the site
[21:22] <Beldar> longbonglungfish, I don't think linux access is on the minds of the developers on these .edu systems, hehe.
[21:22] <RFleming> ROFL
[21:22] <RFleming> that site is OOOOLD
[21:23] <RFleming> Browser requirements: IE6+, Netscape 6+, FF 1.0+, Safari 1.2+
[21:23] <DoomBoom> I don't think the code has been updated recently
[21:23] <RFleming> DoomBoom, it it ain't broke...
[21:23] <longbonglungfish> boy oh boy. okay, it finally loaded in firefox. let's see how long logging in takes. i'm also trying to access it under midori with chromium as a user agent, still loading.
[21:24] <RFleming> longbonglungfish, try safari as a user agent
[21:25] <RFleming> or IE
[21:26] <skinux> Where can set UBUNTU_MENUPROXY to automatically be set to 0, globally?
[21:26] <skinux> I'm guessing it wouldn't be xinit
[21:26] <RFleming> skinux, eclipse?
[21:27] <longbonglungfish> alright. switched it to safari and am attempting again. chrome ua didn't seem to make a difference. i can't understand why a site would take hundreds of times longer to load on an up to dated ubuntu box than on my buddy's piece of crap mac running tiger.
[21:27] <skinux> No...I was thinking setting it globally, so that all app menus would be inside apps instead of inside Ubuntu's top bar.
[21:28] <RFleming> longbonglungfish, try changing the OS to Windows or MacOS
[21:28] <longbonglungfish> shoulda thought of that. alright. will do.
[21:29] <k1l> longbonglungfish: i think the issue is more based on that site and not on the OS
[21:30] <RFleming> skinux, can that not be set in Ubuntu Tweak?
[21:30] <RFleming> err unity tweak
[21:30] <RFleming> sorry... I use xubuntu
[21:32] <longbonglungfish> ah ha! do you think it could be that the site has both ssl v2 and ssl v3 enabled (http://foundeo.com/products/iis-weak-ssl-ciphers/test.cfm?test_domain=websql.brooklyn.cuny.edu)?
[21:32] <CapsAdmn> i have some issues with BitSync, i know it's not really related to ubuntu but the error is "device time difference is more than 600"
[21:32] <CapsAdmn> initially the time was off by 2 hours
[21:32] <greek> I've got a web application running on a dedicated LAMP server. I've just purchase a 2nd server, and my intention is to make it a hot standby. I know how to use rsync to ensure the application layer is identical on both servers, and I also know how to setup replication so that the database layer is synchronised. What I'm curious about is how to actually handle the hot switch (not sure how else to phrase it).
[21:32] <CapsAdmn> i set it to oslo (we have daylight savings)
[21:33] <longbonglungfish> cause changing the os in the user agent doesn't seem to help :\
[21:34] <CapsAdmn> i read something about this on stackoverflow or something and changed the utc thing in the shell by writing to a file i forgot
[21:34] <CapsAdmn> which did change the time and all but i'm still getting the error in that program so im thinking maybe the problem is somewhere else
[21:35] <Node_514> how do i install the java .tar.gz?
[21:35] <Node_514> ubuntu is more of a pain then windows, I only use it cause i'm a hipster
[21:35] <k1l> Node_514: that sort of comments are unnecessary
[21:35] <katsumeblisk> Node_514: Do you need the runtime or the jdk?
[21:36] <katsumeblisk> Node_514: Both are in the repos
[21:36] <Node_514> i need the one for firefox
[21:36] <k1l> Node_514: to isntall java install the java packages form ubuntu repos. dont load stuff from any site, that is bad windows habbits
[21:36] <k1l> !java | Node_514
[21:36] <Node_514> "java
[21:36] <Node_514> !java
[21:36] <longbonglungfish> well, thanks guys for at-least confirming that the site is problematic on your machines. it's literally the only site i've had problems with since i ditched os x. hopefully the webmaster 'ell get around to fixing it or there won't be a problem with it in 14.04.
[21:37] <Node_514> that's a dead giveaway that i use dvorak
[21:37] <skinux> RFlemming: Didn't think of that
[21:37] <mojtaba> Hi, I am going to configure my openvpn following this instructions: http://www.tecmint.com/install-openvpn-in-debian/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tecmint+%28Tecmint%3A+Linux+Howto%27s+Guide%29     The problem is that, in the last step, I get following error: [FAIL] Starting virtual private network daemon: openvpn failed!
[21:38] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do?
[21:39] <k1l> !away | tinoco-away
[21:39] <riccgava> qualche italiano online?
[21:39] <k1l> !it | riccgava
[21:41] <Node_514> i already have java, but it doesn't work on firefox
[21:43] <katsumeblisk> Node_514: Make sure it's not disabled. Java is insecure so some browsers disable it by default
[21:44] <AR0W> anyone tried to build a windows 8 usb key from ubuntu ?
[21:44] <daftykins> not gonna happen
[21:45] <katsumeblisk> AR0W: What kind? Windows to Go or just the installer?
[21:45] <katsumeblisk> AR0W: Installer is easy. Just use dd
[21:45] <AR0W> katsumeblisk: installer
[21:45] <katsumeblisk> AR0W: Look up dd
[21:45] <AR0W> katsumeblisk: ive used dd
[21:45] <katsumeblisk> AR0W: Then what's the issue?
[21:45] <AR0W> not starting
[21:45] <AR0W> UEFI
[21:45] <daftykins> it doesn't work like that.
[21:45] <katsumeblisk> I've used dd, but I have UEFI disabled.
[21:46] <AR0W> formated it in ntfs
[21:46] <AR0W> setted as boot flag on gparted
[21:46] <AR0W> dd if= of =........
[21:46] <AR0W> not booting uefi nor legacy
[21:46] <katsumeblisk> AR0W: I had mine formatted as FAT32
[21:47] <katsumeblisk> AR0W: That's probably why
[21:47] <AR0W> this damn shitt is driven me crazy as hell
[21:47] <daftykins> yeah UEFI only reads FAT
[21:47] <AR0W> gonna try in FAT
[21:47] <katsumeblisk> Except external drives, I always just use FAT32 for the most compatibility.
[21:47] <katsumeblisk> USB devices^^
[21:47] <AR0W> file size is a prob for me
[21:47] <daftykins> AR0W: first off, keep the language family friendly. second, coming in an #ubuntu support channel for a Windows query is a tad odd.
[21:47] <AR0W> daftykins: sorry
[21:48] <katsumeblisk> AR0W: How is file size a problem? You're writing the image, not copying it.
[21:48] <AR0W> daftykins: its not a windows query, since its on ubuntu
[21:48] <daftykins> do you really want to argue that? :)
[21:48] <Oog> ive done aptitude update/upgrde but my openssl still isnt udpated to fix heartbleed - advice?
[21:48] <audreyslutjuice> any tmux powerline users here?
[21:48] <katsumeblisk> Oog: What version is it?
[21:49] <AR0W> daftykins: i don t want to argue nothing, i m here to ask for help, if you want help if not kick or don t respond
[21:49] <katsumeblisk> Oog: That you have installed
[21:49] <daftykins> AR0W: drop the attitude
[21:49] <Oog> 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
[21:49] <k1l> Oog: ubuntu doesnt give a new version number but includes a patch
[21:49] <katsumeblisk> Oog: What version of Ubuntu?
[21:49] <daftykins> Oog: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[21:49] <katsumeblisk> Oog: I'm guessing everything but 14.04 doesn't have the updated version number
[21:49] <k1l> Oog: what ubuntu do you have exactly and what package number is openssl ?
[21:49] <katsumeblisk> THanks daftykins
[21:49] <Oog> k1l: how can i find that
[21:50] <skinux> Why does Crash reporter not allow copying of detail information?
[21:50] <katsumeblisk> Oog: You're fine
[21:50] <k1l> Oog: "lsb_release -a"
[21:50] <katsumeblisk> Oog: According to that link
[21:50] <Oog> ubuntu 13.10
[21:50] <unstable> What is the best way to do desktop sharing from my ubuntu machine to a mac machine?
[21:50] <unstable> the closest thing to join.me
[21:50] <katsumeblisk> unstable: Probably VNC
[21:51] <Oog> i saw taht page said 1.01.e but i read openssl wasnt fixed until the g version
[21:51] <Node_514> i don't geti t
[21:51] <jwm224> I converted mkv files to mp4 files, and they still won't play on my xbox. What went wrong? I used tranmageddon to do the conversion. they play on ubuntu.
[21:51] <RFleming> Oog, that's wrong
[21:51] <katsumeblisk> Oog: That's only for rolling release distros
[21:51] <Node_514> get it
[21:51] <k1l> Oog: "apt-cache show openssl" will give you the version number
[21:51] <RFleming> Oog, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least the following:  For 13.10: 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2    For 12.10: 1.0.1c-3ubuntu2.7    For 12.04: 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12    See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ and http://www.heartbleed.com/ for more details.
[21:51] <Node_514> I Have java so I can play minecraft, but firefox doesn't even know it's there
[21:51] <Node_514> can't even activate it
[21:51] <daftykins> audreyslutjuice: the likelihood of that is very low. do you have an ubuntu support question related to it?
[21:51] <katsumeblisk> Node_514: Did you look in settings under the plugin stuff like I said?
[21:52] <k1l> Oog: please read the updated news. ubuntu did patch the security issue but didnot include a new version number
[21:52] <Node_514> i did
[21:52] <Node_514> java isn't even in the list
[21:52] <katsumeblisk> Node_514: Then you don't have it installed
[21:52] <Oog> thanks it does seem updated
[21:52] <katsumeblisk> Node_514: or you need to restart Firefox if you just installed it.
[21:52] <Node_514> but i can play minecraft
[21:52] <Panter|Linux> hey i got a problem with my ubuntu install
[21:52] <daftykins> Node_514: there are plenty of guides online how to get it working. you need to symlink the plugin file to firefox's plugins directory
[21:52] <daftykins> Panter|Linux: ask with detail on one line please
[21:53] <mojtaba> 05:37:55 PM - mojtaba: Hi, I am going to configure my openvpn following this instructions: http://www.tecmint.com/install-openvpn-in-debian/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tecmint+%28Tecmint%3A+Linux+Howto%27s+Guide%29 The problem is that, in the last step, I get following error: [FAIL] Starting virtual private network daemon: openvpn failed!
[21:53] <mojtaba> 05:38:07 PM - mojtaba: Does anybody know what should I do?
[21:53] <RFleming> Oog, OpenSSL is still the same version, what they did was compile a new version of libssl1.0.0 which openssl depends on.  It has the different version number, where openssl is the same ole one.
[21:53] <jwm224> I converted mkv files to mp4 files, and they still won't play on my xbox. What went wrong? I used tranmageddon to do the conversion. they play on ubuntu. Anyone know what direction or action I should take?
[21:53] <Panter|Linux> daftykins,  ok np well i have an cyborg r.a.t 5 mouse if i plug it in and open up a screen ie webbrowser the mouse buttons stop working and if i unplug it and use my laptops touchpad it keeps working
[21:53] <katsumeblisk> jwm224: I don't think that's really an Ubuntu specific problem.
[21:53] <RFleming> Oog, if you were to run openssl version -a, you'd see it was built yesterday.
[21:54] <Oog> RFleming: cool i see thanks
[21:54] <surfergirl_> .
[21:55] <daftykins> Panter|Linux: i think there are guides online regarding that mouse
[21:55] <jwm224> This is the first time on here. Is there a better place to ask the question? I'm using Ubuntu to transfer files from mkv to mp4.
[21:55] <surfergirl_> is it possible to dd select os folders to a usb hard drive (e.g
[21:55] <Panter|Linux> ok daftykins  ty i will try and search them :) ty
[21:55] <RFleming> !ot > jwm224
[21:56] <RFleming> surfergirl_, no... you'd be better off using rsync
[21:56] <Oog> now that ive updated do i need to do anything else? restart all my services? is there any reason to update nginx for example?
[21:56] <surfergirl_> is it possible to dd copy select folders to a usb hard drive?
[21:56] <katsumeblisk> Oog: I'd just run the update manager and you'd be good to go. :)
[21:56] <k1l> Oog: maybe create new personal keys
[21:56] <Oog> yeah im making new keys
[21:56] <Oog> so aptitude update/upgrade should do everything?
[21:57] <jwm224> How do I view private messages?
[21:57] <RFleming> !ot | jwm224
[21:57] <katsumeblisk> jwm224: It's specific to your IRC client.
[21:57] <surfergirl_> dd /if=/boot /of=/mnt/ext/backup/boot.img copies 0 bytes in, etc
[21:57] <RFleming> surfergirl_, ^^
[21:58] <RFleming> surfergirl_, dd works on files only, not directories
[21:58] <RFleming> surfergirl_, use rsync
[21:58] <daftykins> odsent: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show me the output of "java -version" in a terminal?
[21:59] <jwm224> Sorry, about that. I'll try to connect to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thanks.
[21:59] <RFleming> jwm224, NP :)
[21:59] <RFleming> jwm224, you may want to gloss over the guidelines so you know what's not allowed.
[22:00] <odsent> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7223752/
[22:00] <surfergirl_> yes, i did dd if=/boot etc
[22:00] <katsumeblisk> surfergirl_: That's not a file. That's a directory
[22:00] <jwm224> will do.
[22:01] <odsent> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/7223752/
[22:01] <daftykins> odsent: ok and same for "ls /usr/lib/jre/" (if it says no such directory, repeat with jvm instead of jre)
[22:01] <k1l> odsent: make sure you got the java-plugin package installed, too. that is needed for the webbrowser
[22:02] <RFleming> alrighty, time for me to go.  Cheers!
[22:02] <odsent> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7223757/
[22:02] <daftykins> odsent: close any open firefox windows and run "sudo apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin"
[22:02] <odsent> BYE BYE
[22:03] <surfergirl_> yes, I want to copy os directories to a usb device.
[22:03] <katsumeblisk> surfergirl_: just use cp or rsync. No need for dd
[22:03] <daftykins> surfergirl_: you are going in circles.
[22:04] <surfergirl_> will rsync copy open files?
[22:04] <daftykins> surfergirl_: if you're trying to make a bootable USB flash drive, just folders may not be enough
[22:04] <mojtaba> Hi, I am going to configure my openvpn following this instructions: http://www.tecmint.com/install-openvpn-in-debian/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tecmint+%28Tecmint%3A+Linux+Howto%27s+Guide%29 The problem is that, in the last step, I get following error: [FAIL] Starting virtual private network daemon: openvpn failed!    Does anybody know what should I do?
[22:04] <surfergirl_> I need a backup I can restore to if changes fail.
[22:05] <odsent> IT WORKED!!!!!!!!
[22:05] <Panter|Linux> dam
[22:05] <daftykins> odsent: you're welcome
[22:06] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. My problem: it seems by default my computer attempts to open directories with the EasyTag program. So, e.g., when I plug in a USB drive or turn one on, EasyTag starts to scan the directories of the new drive.........no matter what type of files are on that drive
[22:06] <daftykins> mojtaba: read the logs as to what's going wrong.
[22:06] <daftykins> mojtaba: but i don't like that you come in here linking debian guides :P
[22:07] <mojtaba> sorry, daftykins I could not find one for ubuntu
[22:07] <gmachine_24> surgergirl, I believe rsync will copy the latest saved file of whatever files you have.....
[22:07] <mojtaba> how can I read the log
[22:07] <gmachine_24> er, surfergirl
[22:07] <daftykins> mojtaba: you learn what location it's in and you open it with a text editor... really you shouldn't be doing anything as low level as setting up a VPN if you can't read logs.
[22:08] <gmachine_24> however, if you are creating a new file with, e.g. gedit and it has not been saved, rsync will not copy it
[22:08] <jordan__> Hi all, quick question. We're trying to address the heartbleed bug at my start up. The easiest way is to redeploy our infrastructure to a new ami that is not vulnerable. What is the expected lifetime of the daily images? I'd like to use the Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS (Precise Pangolin) Daily Build [20140408] image.
[22:08] <ubuNoob> usr13 bad new. i lost my windows 7 i have to use the repair disc
[22:09] <NEone> Hi. On Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS (precise), 64-bit, headless server. I worried about the "HeartBleed" vuln, so I checked apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. It actually seemed to update openssl and ssllib and other packages. But a "openssl version" command still shows the 1.0.1 version from March 2012. Didn't Ubuntu update openssl to 1.0.1g ?
[22:09] <katsumeblisk> jordan__: If you just run the updater, you're fine
[22:09] <surfergirl_> I prefer dd as the target drive does not necessarily havr extended attributess/acls installed, etc
[22:09] <gmachine_24> surfergirl, on the other hand, perhaps this person knows more: https://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2012-January/027271.html
[22:09] <katsumeblisk> NEone: You're fine.
[22:09] <katsumeblisk> NEone: Canonical recompiled it with the patch but left the version number alone
[22:09] <Beldar> NEone, updated, same name.
[22:09] <daftykins> NEone: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[22:10] <camahueto> Hi, I got problems with the Atheros driver for wireless in Precise, Is this the place to ask about that?
[22:10] <daftykins> we're really beginning to need a factoid for this.
[22:10] <NEone> Cool, thanks.
[22:10] <Beldar> daftykins, Tin fedora's for everyone. ;)
[22:10] <jordan__> katsumeblisk: our infrastructure is highly automated. it's easiest if we can just change the ami we use.
[22:11] <katsumeblisk> jordan__: What's an ami?
[22:11] <Panter|Linux> that's some hardcore shit daftykins
[22:11] <jordan__> ec2 image
[22:11] <jordan__> system image
[22:11] <daftykins> Beldar: ooh that could be neat
[22:11] <katsumeblisk> jordan__: So you can't update?
[22:11] <jordan__> http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/precise/20140408/
[22:11] <jordan__> no, we have a hands off approach. we define our system in our code repository
[22:11] <jordan__> and then deploy takes care of the rest.
[22:12] <Panter|Linux> brb
[22:12] <katsumeblisk> jordan__: Uh. I'm not sure. If you're using dailies, I'm sure you're fine.
[22:12] <katsumeblisk> jordan__: I think the update went out yesterday or today.
[22:12] <katsumeblisk> jordan__: So today's would be fine.
[22:13] <jordan__> i don't normally use dailies, and am reluctant because i don't want the daily to be removed out from under me.
[22:13] <jordan__> do you think it'll be left up for at least a month?
[22:13] <katsumeblisk> jordan__: What do you mean left up? Do you mean the iso on Canonical's site?
[22:14] <jordan__> yes, the iso, ovf and the image on aws
[22:14] <katsumeblisk> jordan__: I don't know much about the images, so I'm probably not much use anymore. Sorry.
[22:14] <jordan__> i don't know how often they garbage collect these images.
[22:14] <Panter|Linux> alright that seems to do the trick :)
[22:14] <Jordan_U> jordan__: Why does it matter? (Also. please move discussion of development releases of Ubuntu to #ubuntu+1).
[22:15] <jordan__> Jordan_U: we redeploy regularly, so i need some assurance that that AMI won't disappear
[22:15] <jordan__> katsumeblisk: thanks for help!
[22:15] <daftykins> Jordan_U: it's discussion of precise. not trusty, you'd know that had you read up
[22:15] <Jordan_U> daftykins: If I'd not have just recently joined, then I would have read up :)
[22:16] <daftykins> perhaps don't throw about such things in future then
[22:17] <jordan__> the knowledge of #ubuntu+1 was helpful. I'll check it out.
[22:17] <jordan__> thanks all.
[22:18] <_zap_> hi. i want to install a new version of virtualbox for ubuntu 12.04 (lts). the problem with the provided package is that it contains precompiled kernel modules for 3.2 but i am using a newer kernel version. what is your suggestion to solve this problem? thanks for your advice.
[22:19] <Beldar> _zap_, This your download page? https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[22:20] <_zap_> Beldar: no i am using the one in the ubuntu repository
[22:21] <_zap_> Beldar: there is a 4.3 version but it contains the kernel modules for one specific kernel
[22:21] <Beldar> _zap_, I always use this one, there should not be a kernel issue none the less install dkms
[22:21] <_zap_> Beldar: dkms is installed. ok i try this one
[22:21] <Beldar> never heard of any kernel module issues, myself
[22:21] <_zap_> Beldar: have you tried on 12.04 with a different kernel
[22:22] <Beldar> _zap_, Just the ones in 14.04.4
[22:22] <Beldar> 12.04.4*
[22:22] <Beldar> saucies kernels
[22:22] <_zap_> Beldar: yes i am also running 12.04.4. which kernel are you running
[22:22] <_zap_> Beldar: ah ok
[22:23] <Beldar> _zap_, I'm im W8 right now, it's updated is all.
[22:23] <_zap_> Beldar: W8?
[22:23] <Beldar> _zap_, Yeah, many here multi boot I have 5 OS on this HD.
[22:24] <_zap_> Beldar: i was wondering what you mean by "W8"
[22:24] <Beldar> MS is only 20%, lol
[22:27] <surfergirl> rsync isnt ideal for my dd as there are attributes and acls and things not on yhe target drive, thus i was thinking dd or maybe tar
[22:27] <Lartza8> Installed Ubuntu and got dropped into a grub rescue :S possibly something to do with UEFI or GPT?
[22:27] <Lartza8> Windows 8.1 dual boot, windows installed first
[22:28] <Beldar> Lartza8, You familiar withe the bootrepair tool?
[22:28] <Lartza8> Beldar: no
[22:29] <Beldar> Lartza8, Save the bootinfo summary url. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:29] <camahueto> I ask again. I got a brand new Dell Inspiron Notebook with Ubuntu 12.04.4 already installed. When I turned it on the wireless was working, but after updating the software
[22:29] <Beldar> Lartza8, You can run that summary only as well, might be worth it for us to look at it.
[22:30] <Lartza8> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7223838/
[22:31] <camahueto> I ask again. I got a brand new Dell Inspiron Notebook with Ubuntu 12.04.4 already installed. When I turned it on the wireless was working, but after updating the software, I losy the wireless connectivity. The result of lspci -nn | grep 0280 is: 06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0036] (rev 01)
[22:31] <HelloWorld> Lartza8 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:32] <picca> hello HelloWorld
[22:32] <HelloWorld> Hi
[22:33] <gmachine_24> surfergirl, I use tar all the time to back up my drives
[22:33] <Beldar> Lartza8, Cool, out of my area as far a gpt stuff. sdb (where ubuntu is) is a gpt setup HD because of it's size, and grub was put in the sda mbr
[22:33] <Voyage_> how to shred a file (delete multiple times by overwriting data on it)  so it cannot be recovered by deleted file recovery tools?
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Lartza8: Did you move the Ubuntu partitions from sda to sdb?
[22:34] <ecker_> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 13.10 on my Mac Pro (2008), I get the screen "Try, install, OEM" etc. No matter if I pick "Try" or "Install" I end up with a few boxes on my screen looking like this: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s66/sh/635ce8f9-dd37-474d-87e4-712a74fd04ad/108854114a60eab51387d1b10dedf8d6
[22:34] <ecker_> Where do I start troubleshooting this? "Funky blocks"?
[22:34] <Beldar> Jordan_U, Cool I was hoping you would notice that subscript. ;)
[22:34] <HelloWorld> camahueto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103062
[22:34] <Beldar> script*
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Voyage_: shred /path/to/file
[22:35] <gmachine_24> and rsync to sync my music folder(s) with those on the back up drive; and snapraid for a drive that has mostly video (i.e. large files) and only one, two or none is changed or deleted every day
[22:35] <gmachine_24> *mostly video files
[22:35] <Lartza> Beldar my live system froze so didnt get any replies
[22:35] <gmachine_24> I should say added, deleted or changed
[22:35] <Lartza> I managed to send out the summary though
[22:36] <Jordan_U> Lartza8: Did you move the Ubuntu partitions from sda to sdb?
[22:36] <Lartza> Jordan_U, No
[22:37] <gmachine_24> My problem: it seems by default my computer attempts to open directories with the EasyTag program. So, e.g., when I plug in a USB drive or turn one on, EasyTag starts to scan the directories of the new drive.........no matter what type of files are on that drive
[22:37] <Lartza> There used to be a gentoo install that spanned sda and sdb
[22:38] <bjorn2in> Hi all... I am having trouble with Ice-tea PlugIn both in Chrome and FF... running 12.04 and IcedTea Web 1.2.3 (1.2.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.4)... browser just hangs when attempting to execute java script.. help please :)
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Lartza: Ok, well it looks like the only grub installation you have is actually from that old Gentoo install, rather than from Ubuntu. The Windows installation probably overwrote the MBR of sdb, which probably previously contained Ubuntu's grub.
[22:39] <super_mdh>  I've been running servers that have used the vulnerable
[22:39] <super_mdh>                    version of openssl. They were not webservers. Servers are
[22:39] <super_mdh>                    now running the patched version of openssl. Do I need to
[22:39] <super_mdh> sorry, bad terminal
[22:40] <super_mdh> I've been running servers that have used the vulnerable version of openssl. They were not webservers. Servers are now running the patched version of openssl. Do I need to change my private keys or something?
[22:40] <AcidRain2012> hello. i am using an hdmi cable. and ubuntu is picking it up as a dvi cable
[22:40] <AcidRain2012> how do i fix this?
[22:40] <AcidRain2012> im not even using the dvi slot
[22:40] <Jordan_U> super_mdh: Were they using openssl based services, such as ssh?
[22:40] <AcidRain2012> i believe that due to this, its not allowing me to send audio over the hdmi cable
[22:41] <Lartza> Jordan_U windows was the first OS installed and i selected /dev/sda on the ubuntu install for grub
[22:41] <super_mdh> Jordan_U: yes.
[22:41] <darkangel> Hey i was wondering if Ubuntu developers take free Features... Lets say if i made a pretty nice feature for Ubuntu peeps and i give it to them would they host it?
[22:42] <AcidRain2012> i have vga connected to my tv. i have hdmi connected to a projector
[22:42] <AcidRain2012> hdmi is being reported as DVI
[22:43] <OerHeks> darkangel, see launchpad, for hosting your contribution to ubuntu, if your ppa is interesting, who knows ?
[22:43] <OerHeks> !launchpad
[22:45] <Lartza> Jordan_U windows is sda1 and sda2(C:) gentoo was sda3 /boot and sda4 /
[22:45] <Voyage_> Jordan_U,  shred /home/me/someDirectory/  will shred all files in the "someDirectory"?
[22:45] <akiva> Hey folks; which kernel version will ubuntu 14.04 be using?
[22:46] <Beldar> !14.04 > akiva
[22:46] <Voyage> Jordan_U,  I changed nick
[22:46] <bip> hi all...does anyone know what is the name of a program that is showed on ubuntu.com in section desktop...i mean about second one image where openstack is presented
[22:47] <Lartza> Could someone link back my(Lartza8) paste.ubuntu.com link please?
[22:48] <Beldar> Lartza, this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7223838/
[22:49] <Lartza> Thank you
[22:49] <qin> Voyage: shred: shred_test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory
[22:49] <lolcat> qin: you use shred on devices
[22:50] <Lartza> Jordan_U sdc MBR is from an older windows install that was on that drive
[22:50] <lolcat> qin: install secure-delete and use srm on the folder/files
[22:50] <qin> Voyage: apparently adding asterix does the job
[22:50] <Lartza> But anyways, how can I fix grub?
[22:50] <Voyage> qin,  shred ~/someDirectory/*' will.
[22:50] <Slart> bip: which one? can you take a screenshot and show us?
[22:51] <bip> yea wait
[22:51] <Voyage> but  how many times will it delete/overwrite the files?
[22:52] <qin> Voyage: would you care to man shred, my memory is bit hazy
[22:52] <js__> test
[22:52] <qin> lolcat: why srm?
[22:52] <bip> http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/latest/u/img/desktop/image-for-developers.png
[22:53] <lolcat> qin: I like secure delete. you can decide how many runs. default is 30-some
[22:53] <bip> i mean about progs which is on left side
[22:53] <bip> ;)
[22:53] <Slart> bip: sublime text perhaps?
[22:54] <qin> lolcat: you mean like shred -n 30
[22:54] <bip> ;) please?:>
[22:54] <qin> lolcat: Anyway srm looks interesting, thanks
[22:54] <lolcat> qin: No, srm uses special patterns to securly delete regardless of media, like it will work on tape and floppies and ssds and everything
[22:55] <lolcat> qin: shred is primitive
[22:55] <lolcat> but then, both will do the job
[22:55] <qin> lolcat: haha
[22:55] <bip> so if you know..i would be absolutely grateful
[22:56] <Voyage> qin,  shred -n 99 -v /path/* is fine?
[22:56] <Slart> bip: sublime text.. it's a nice editor
[22:56] <bip> aaaa heh thx so much man
[22:56] <Slart> bip: you're welcome
[22:56] <lolcat> qin: For a normal harddrive I guess you just have to overwrite once, on ssds Id do more passes
[22:56] <bip> :)
[22:59] <Voyage> I wonder how multiple switches work in linux    shred -n 99 -v      or shred -nv 99
[23:00] <Slart> Voyage: why use 99 writes.. if you're that paranoid you shouldn't trust the chip in your hard drive to write to the disc..  and if you're not that paranoid 3 should be plenty enough
[23:00] <usr13> Voyage: It depends on the application.
[23:01] <Voyage> Slart,  usr13  ok. I saw shred: scans/Image-0007.jpeg: pass 1/99 (random)...
[23:01] <Voyage> shred: scans/Image-0007.jpeg: pass 2/99 (bbbbbb)...     but I can still view that file.
[23:02] <micdawg> sudo update-initramfs -u -k 3.11.0-19-generic update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-19-generic Floating point exception (core dumped)
[23:02] <micdawg> Anyone seen that?
[23:02] <usr13> Voyage: Well good for you.
[23:02] <Voyage> I mean , why the picture is still viewable?
[23:02] <Voyage> Slart,  I have changed the 99 to 11
[23:02] <usr13> Voyage: It's not.
[23:02] <Voyage> usr13,  not?
[23:02] <Slart> Voyage: perhaps the shredding isn't finished? or it's cached somewhere?
[23:02] <Ben64> if it is viewable, thats only because its still opened and exists only in ram.
[23:03] <qin> Voyage: -vn 3 - works; -nv 3 - fails;
[23:03] <Ben64> and to make a file unrecoverable, all you need is one (1) overwrite
[23:03] <Ben64> 99 is ridiculously unnecessary
[23:03] <Voyage> Slart,  qin  my bad. its not viewable
[23:03] <usr13> Voyage: Do you have it open in an image viewer?
[23:04] <Voyage> Slart,  qin  my bad. its not viewable.
[23:04] <micdawg> pretty sure my 14.04 update went south :/
[23:05] <Ben64> micdawg: #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 support and discussion until release day
[23:05] <Slart> micdawg: never seen a floating point exception during initramfs... strange
[23:05] <qin> micdawg: #ubuntu+1 will rejoyce to  hear about it
[23:05] <micdawg> k, thanks
[23:05] <usr13> micdawg: Which direction was your computer facing?
[23:05] <micdawg> lol, apparently not the right way :P
[23:06] <usr13> micdawg: Trun it around and try again.
[23:07] <micdawg> lol
[23:10] <Lartza> I managed to get grub2 to work. How do i fix a nouveau lockup?
[23:12] <tttttttttt> hi ..can some advise on getting flash to work.. ubuntu 13.10 with firefox
[23:13] <Beldar> tttttttttt, flash-plugin-installer
[23:14] <tttttttttt> if i install flash plug installer ..the video is distorted and half size
[23:14] <Beldar> tttttttttt, where?
[23:15] <Beldar> link?
[23:15] <tttttttttt> youtube
[23:15] <tttttttttt> plays ok if i dont install the plugin
[23:16] <omlet> hi
[23:16] <tttttttttt> but some some site ask for the plug in and dont play
[23:16] <jedichu> Hi!  What's the recommended way to fix heartbleed?  As of right no 'apt-get upgrade openssl' does not return a patched ver for me.
[23:16] <omlet> any ppa or rebuild tuto for heartbleed
[23:16] <Beldar> jedichu, one patch, same file name.
[23:16] <jedichu> Beldar: what?
[23:17] <Beldar> !ssl
[23:17] <Beldar> jedichu, The patch is in the repos, the files have the same name is all, it is a patch.
[23:17] <jedichu> ummm
[23:17] <jedichu> # openssl version -a
[23:17] <jedichu> OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
[23:17] <jedichu> built on: Mon Apr  7 20:33:19 UTC 2014
[23:17] <jedichu> that says no
[23:18] <Beldar> jedichu, really, march 7th is not soon enough for you?
[23:19] <Beldar> my trisqual install is even updated
[23:19] <jedichu> well the heartbleed vuln was announced late on apr 7 so anything before apr 8 is not good enough for anyone
[23:19] <Beldar> trisquesl
[23:20] <rypervenche> jedichu: I patched on April 7th. All patches I've seen are for April 7th.
[23:21] <rypervenche> jedichu: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[23:21] <jedichu> rypervenche: ok thanks.  So you're saying that my ver 1.0.1e built on: Mon Apr  7 20:33:19 UTC 2014 is totally kosher?
[23:22] <rypervenche> jedichu: Find which package version you have.
[23:23] <rypervenche> jedichu: apt-cache policy openssl
[23:23] <jedichu>   Installed: 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2
[23:23] <jedichu>   Candidate: 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2
[23:24] <rypervenche> jedichu: You're good. That is the version that is on that page.
[23:25] <jedichu> rypervenche: Cool thanks for confirming.  I imagine you've gotten this question a fair bit today and seems like you might want to put our conversation in a pastebin or something, since all I needed to know was 'apt-cache policy openssl and does it match'
[23:25] <jedichu> :)
[23:26] <rypervenche> jedichu: I was fixing this all day at work today. Vacation starts today :)
[23:26] <jedichu> go you!
[23:32] <sudhir> Hi All, I am new to ubuntu. I have a specific question related to mirroring. Here is the link to my question: http://mibpaste.com/Xexv59
[23:39] <phao> Hey. Is it too much trouble adding something like a "traditional task bar" on unity?
[23:41] <StAtIk> hello everyone.... I need help
[23:41] <Magiobiwan> So, I just updated a server from 13.10 to 14.04 and discovered that it broke my networking. For some reason, br0 isn't being recognized.
[23:41] <Oog> how can i find out why my system says *** System restart required *** upon login? i did aptitude update/upgrade recently because of heartbleed i guess this is why?
[23:41] <StAtIk> downloading graphicvs drivers
[23:42] <Magiobiwan> And this VPN is horrible
[23:42]  * Magiobiwan grabs laptop
[23:43] <ubuNoob> usr13 u r they
[23:44] <Lartza8> Can I fix http://paste.ubuntu.com/7224075/ with apt-get install ubuntu-desktop? :)
[23:44] <Lartza8> on the upside my root is almost 900 megabytes lighter
[23:45] <sadpuppy> watch out for root rot
[23:45] <tttttttttt>  Hi.. anyone here able to help with getting flash to run in 13.10 firefox
[23:48] <Magiobiwan> So, I'm not sure if my earlier message made it out thanks to a combination of laggy BNC and high-latency VPN
[23:48] <sadpuppy> reinstall
[23:48] <Magiobiwan> But, I just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and it seems to have broken br0
[23:49] <Beldar> !14.04 > Magiobiwan
[23:49] <Lartza8> !14.04 > Lartza8
[23:50] <Magiobiwan> Ah. A different channel
[23:50] <Bashing-om> Lartza8: If it were your intent for a "simpler" system, the advise is to build up from "core" not tear down from.
[23:51] <Lartza8> Bashing-om: I usually install Arch for that nowadays... but yeah lighter or "simpler" was the intent :)
[23:52] <ubunnoob> it didnt work
[23:52] <ubunnoob> the disk is still dynamic not basic
[23:52] <Bashing-om> Lartza8: As you know what was removed, then yeah, I see no problem to (RE-)install as needed starting from the desktop.
[23:53] <Lartza8> Bashing-om: ubuntu-desktop does seem to miss a few but hits pretty close yeah
[23:54] <Lartza8> I could just do a quick reinstall too and hope that grub works the first time now
[23:54] <Lartza8> for minimal headaches in the future :P
[23:54] <Bashing-om> Lartza8: Might run -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- see if the package manager screams and hollers about anything missing at this time.
[23:57] <mbslk> Hi all, Not sure if my earlier message got lost......I need some help with mirroring the repository and hold clients to not fetch any package whenever mirroring is in progress. Is it possible? Here is the link to the question in detail: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7224106/
[23:59] <Oog> how do i update my adiscon repository?
[23:59] <Oog> http://ubuntu.adiscon.com/v7-stable saucy/ it says it moved to launchpad