| bluesabre | Logan_, do you have access to the branches, or just universe? | 00:58 |
|---|---|---|
| bluesabre | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker-settings/+bug/1290737 | 00:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1290737 in light-locker-settings (Ubuntu) "Switch off (dpms) time maybe overwritten by xfce power manager" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 00:58 |
| Logan_ | bluesabre: just universe and multiverse | 00:58 |
| Logan_ | wait, which branches are you referring to? | 00:59 |
| Logan_ | I can do lp:ubuntu/<any package in universe/multiverse> as well | 01:00 |
| bluesabre | lp:ubuntu/trusty/light-locker-settings | 01:00 |
| Logan_ | yeah | 01:00 |
| bluesabre | equally, we can upload an upload of that version, right? | 01:00 |
| bluesabre | also, thanks a bunch for all the uploads today :) | 01:00 |
| Logan_ | upload an upload? now you're losing me :P | 01:01 |
| Logan_ | I can merge that, if you want | 01:01 |
| bluesabre | yeah, that :D | 01:02 |
| bluesabre | my brain gets a bit foggy after working for 12 hours | 01:02 |
| Logan_ | my brain is always rather foggy | 01:02 |
| bluesabre | :) | 01:03 |
| bluesabre | brainwash_, you around? | 01:03 |
| brainwash_ | hey bluesabre | 01:04 |
| bluesabre | sweet! | 01:04 |
| bluesabre | ochosi mentioned indicators to me | 01:04 |
| bluesabre | and said your ppa has the fixes | 01:04 |
| brainwash_ | you want to test or prepare something? | 01:05 |
| bluesabre | both... first I'm curious what thing(s) it fixes :) | 01:06 |
| brainwash_ | it's ali1234's patch | 01:06 |
| brainwash_ | http://git.xfce.org/users/ajb/xfce4-indicator-plugin/ | 01:06 |
| brainwash_ | so indicator-plugin starts and ends the indicator services | 01:07 |
| brainwash_ | via upstart | 01:07 |
| bluesabre | oh nice | 01:08 |
| bluesabre | so no dealing with autostart | 01:08 |
| brainwash_ | right, the normal autostart launchers were changed | 01:09 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 01:09 |
| ali1234 | brainwash_: you said there was a bug earlier | 01:09 |
| brainwash_ | ali1234: the upstart init process is launched twice with your path | 01:10 |
| ali1234 | the bug is really obvious if you look at the code | 01:10 |
| ali1234 | i meant to move that piece of code but copied it instead | 01:10 |
| brainwash_ | :D | 01:10 |
| ali1234 | so it does it twice | 01:10 |
| brainwash_ | which isn't that bad.. until you logout and not all processes terminate | 01:11 |
| brainwash_ | so they keep the previous session alive | 01:11 |
| ali1234 | silly xfce git doesn't allow push -f | 01:12 |
| brainwash_ | what about your title-less windows patch? I guess it's too late to get it in, but it works fine for me | 01:13 |
| ali1234 | http://git.xfce.org/users/ajb/xfce4-indicator-plugin/commit/?h=upstart-init-2 | 01:13 |
| ali1234 | what about it? | 01:14 |
| brainwash_ | it's done or? | 01:14 |
| ali1234 | i guess | 01:14 |
| brainwash_ | like months ago | 01:14 |
| ali1234 | i don;t use it | 01:14 |
| brainwash_ | I do.. but I just don't use apps to test it properly | 01:16 |
| brainwash_ | it works for gthumb with the numix theme | 01:16 |
| brainwash_ | :) | 01:16 |
| Logan_ | bluesabre: uploaded | 01:16 |
| bluesabre | thanks Logan_ ! | 01:17 |
| Logan_ | no problem :) | 01:17 |
| bluesabre | I suppose I'll probably have an indicator upload available in the morning | 01:17 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: are you adding the new patch to your ppa? | 01:17 |
| brainwash_ | maybe, not sure if moving the code block changes anything at all | 01:21 |
| brainwash_ | ali1234: why did you move the code block to the construct function? | 01:21 |
| ali1234 | seemed more appropriate | 01:21 |
| brainwash_ | ok | 01:22 |
| brainwash_ | bluesabre: I've told Noskcaj to prepare the indicator-plugin branch, so hopefully we don't end up with two branches :) | 01:25 |
| bluesabre | :) | 01:30 |
| bluesabre | we'll see which one appears first | 01:30 |
| bluesabre | I'll check to make sure he hasn't prepared a branch on the side | 01:31 |
| bluesabre | looks like we're still in the clear | 01:32 |
| Pwnna | wait | 04:34 |
| Pwnna | so i have a cron job running every 5 minutes | 04:34 |
| Pwnna | but it's not in crontab | 04:34 |
| Pwnna | or anywhere in cron.d | 04:34 |
| Pwnna | wtf? | 04:35 |
| Noskcaj_school | bluesabre: Feel free to fix the indicator issue. I can't do packaging stuff till tomorrow morning, and have to do xfdesktop first | 04:35 |
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| jhenke | goood morning | 06:32 |
| elfy | o/ | 06:35 |
| jhenke | okay update time | 06:36 |
| jhenke | 13.10 -> 14.04, wish me luck ;) | 06:36 |
| elfy | :) | 06:36 |
| jhenke | hmm interesting: update-manager -d -c | 06:46 |
| jhenke | ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for Dbusmenu | 06:46 |
| jhenke | ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for Unity | 06:46 |
| jhenke | WARNING:root:can not import unity GI cannot import name Dbusmenu | 06:46 |
| jhenke | but proably not important | 06:46 |
| ochosi | morning everyone | 06:48 |
| jhenke | moin ochosi | 06:48 |
| ochosi | hi jhenke | 06:49 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 06:49 |
| ochosi | hey elfy | 06:49 |
| ochosi | thanks for being so persistent with the debugging last night | 06:49 |
| ochosi | i'll try whether i can reproduce this oddity with the lid | 06:49 |
| elfy | you're welcome as always :) | 06:49 |
| ochosi | that was a really helpful session you had there | 06:49 |
| elfy | if all I can so is grab info for people that can do more - then I'll do that :) | 06:50 |
| ochosi | now we "only" have to fix the issue :> | 06:50 |
| elfy | ... | 06:50 |
| elfy | indeed ;) | 06:50 |
| ochosi | frankly, if this ends up a known issue for 14.04, it'll be fixed in 14.04.1 | 06:50 |
| ochosi | and we can suggest an easy workaround: disable lock on suspend by default :D | 06:51 |
| elfy | which will be easier when the disable buttons sync :p | 06:52 |
| ochosi | yup | 06:53 |
| ochosi | which is about to land though | 06:53 |
| ochosi | thanks to Logan_ | 06:53 |
| elfy | yep | 06:53 |
| elfy | yea indeed :) | 06:53 |
| elfy | takes the pressure off micahg I guess :) | 06:53 |
| ochosi | yeah, as soon as we have other ppl with push-rights to our branches | 06:59 |
| `Fibz | lock on suspend works fine over here | 07:00 |
| jhenke | I also thought the different falvours have control over their specfic branches, seems quite idiotic to have always relay on ubuntu people to push everything | 07:01 |
| ochosi | `Fibz: good to hear. also on lid-close? | 07:05 |
| `Fibz | dont have a laptop handy. i can report back on that tomorrow | 07:05 |
| elfy | ochosi: we going to push your blog post out before release? | 07:05 |
| elfy | or are we going to publish a whole bunch at the same time :) | 07:06 |
| ochosi | `Fibz: thanks, that'd be great | 07:06 |
| ochosi | elfy: hm, haven't thought of a concrete date, i assumed soon after the release | 07:06 |
| ochosi | guess ideally i still have to add two screenshots | 07:07 |
| elfy | okey doke | 07:07 |
| * elfy was just wondering | 07:07 | |
| ochosi | but i'm open to suggestions | 07:07 |
| ochosi | if there are good reasons to publish it beforehands i don't mind | 07:07 |
| elfy | well I have had people wanting to know about sound missing when it's locked | 07:08 |
| elfy | and people ARE using the beta now | 07:08 |
| elfy | just a thought | 07:08 |
| ochosi | hmright | 07:11 |
| ochosi | i'll talk to knome when he's around | 07:11 |
| elfy | ok | 07:11 |
| jhenke | the worse thing with such upgrades is the waiting.... | 07:36 |
| knome | ochosi, elfy: i'm fine with any publishing date | 09:06 |
| elfy | hi knome - okey doke - I didn't want to do mine till later anyway - after release at the earliest - was just concerned about a bunch going out at the same time and not being seen until the page gets sorted | 09:08 |
| knome | i should get the fixes in ASAP | 09:10 |
| knome | i pretty much have them ready locally, but this sickness is slowing me down | 09:10 |
| elfy | okay - well don't rush on my account | 09:13 |
| knome | heh | 09:15 |
| knome | well my intention is to get it in before 14.04 release | 09:15 |
| knome | and since it involves the canonical IS, would be better to get it in queue ASAP | 09:15 |
| elfy | I can concur with that appraisal of the situation ... | 09:17 |
| jhenke | upgrade looks good so far, but a lot of old config data left behind | 09:32 |
| ochosi | that's normal | 09:32 |
| jhenke | and the ibus problem | 09:35 |
| elfy | yep | 09:35 |
| jhenke | after upgrade keyboard layout is en_US | 09:35 |
| elfy | we're making a decision on that tomorrow | 09:36 |
| jhenke | light-locker is huge improvement | 09:39 |
| jhenke | xscreensaver always looked very out of place | 09:39 |
| ochosi | thanks, that is nice to hear | 09:39 |
| knome | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-14-04-point-1 | 09:48 |
| brainwash | Logan_: hey, what's this xfdesktop4 4.11.5-1ubuntu1 ? :) | 09:48 |
| ochosi | i think it's a rebase against debian | 09:50 |
| brainwash | ok | 09:51 |
| brainwash | ochosi: did you already read bug 1304064? | 10:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1304064 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "Light Locker - screen is blank after login when screen was blanked and locked" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1304064 | 10:05 |
| ochosi | yeah, apart from this line it seems to be a duplicate: | 10:06 |
| ochosi | Every time it is locked and is blanked, I lose the session to a blank screen after login. | 10:06 |
| brainwash | indeed, a duplicate | 10:07 |
| brainwash | locked and blanked... mmh | 10:07 |
| brainwash | could it be that xfpm fails to restore the screen brightness? | 10:09 |
| brainwash | or messes with it | 10:09 |
| elfy | oooh - I was getting that yesterday when fiddling while debugging with you | 10:10 |
| brainwash | did you try to restore the brightness manually? | 10:11 |
| brainwash | sounds unlikely that this would help | 10:11 |
| brainwash | people would have tried that already | 10:11 |
| brainwash | ochosi: the kb shortcut changes are not required, but we want to make sure that the shortcut file don't get messed up | 10:13 |
| brainwash | elfy: can you confirm bug 1304128? | 10:17 |
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| ochosi | brainwash: yeah, i think i mentioned that first part in my review | 10:25 |
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| bluesabre | sheesh | 10:34 |
| bluesabre | https://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-indicator-plugin/upstart-init/+merge/214713 | 10:35 |
| bluesabre | hey Logan_, ^ here's the branch for the indicator-plugin fix. If you get a chance to upload it today, I'd be grateful :) | 10:36 |
| bluesabre | s/upload/merge | 10:36 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, brainwash: ta-da! | 10:36 |
| brainwash | wait a minute, why don't we simply use an upstart job to start the indicator services? :) | 10:37 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: nice | 10:37 |
| ochosi | thanks bluesabre | 10:47 |
| elfy | brainwash: I thought we were aware that we're not removing xscreensaver - but that the conf file calls light-locker first now | 12:02 |
| brainwash | elfy: but it should be removed then unless the user (re)installed xscreensaver manually | 12:42 |
| elfy | ok - so we need to also remove the bottom panel - because we don't use that anymore, remove gthumb - we don't use that either | 12:43 |
| elfy | pretty sure this has all been discussed weeks ago | 12:43 |
| knome | elfy, did you notice https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-14-04-point-1 ? | 12:43 |
| elfy | knome: I did thanks :) | 12:44 |
| knome | np | 12:44 |
| brainwash | bottom panel might be saved in the user config | 12:44 |
| elfy | so will changes someone has made to xscreensaver | 12:44 |
| brainwash | I talking about the xscreensaver package | 12:45 |
| brainwash | we don't depend on it anymore | 12:45 |
| brainwash | same applies for gthumb I guess | 12:45 |
| elfy | I know what you're talking about - xflock4 calls light-locker first so it gets used first afaik | 12:46 |
| elfy | personally I think there are other things to be worrying about at the moment | 12:46 |
| brainwash | ok, but this isn't the problem, xscreensaver runs in the background and does blank the screen | 12:46 |
| brainwash | or displays a screensaver | 12:46 |
| elfy | no idea - waiting for it | 12:47 |
| brainwash | not a deal breaker, but you know the common (x)ubuntu user | 12:47 |
| brainwash | "why are both programs installed?" | 12:48 |
| elfy | :) | 12:48 |
| elfy | waiting for light-locker to blank the screen after 1 minute ... | 12:48 |
| brainwash | 1 minute is rather short | 12:48 |
| brainwash | do you test anything? | 12:49 |
| elfy | not when you're waiting for it so you can get on with other stuff it isn't ;) | 12:49 |
| elfy | what? | 12:50 |
| brainwash | or what's the deal with the 1minute blank timer? | 12:50 |
| ochosi | elfy: since you can reproduce that bug with light-locker, could you try to use unity-greeter (just to rule out that gtk-greeter is somehow involved)? | 12:51 |
| brainwash | oh, gtk-greeter does set the timeout to 1 minute in lock mode | 12:52 |
| ochosi | yes | 12:53 |
| ochosi | i mean it works in the normal circumstances, so it'd be odd if it didn't work with suspend, but with this bug i'm not surprised by anything anymore | 12:53 |
| ochosi | it seems to be so specific | 12:54 |
| elfy | ok - so lightlocker works in an upgraded 12.04 - not worried abou xscreensaver :) | 12:56 |
| elfy | ochosi: you mean the suspend with lid close bug? | 12:57 |
| elfy | knome: I've just realised that at 6pm on the 17th April I will be on a train - then not about till friday morning | 12:58 |
| ochosi | elfy: yes | 12:58 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok - I'll do that now | 12:58 |
| ochosi | ty | 12:59 |
| brainwash | ochosi: should I add bug 1301873 to 14.04.1? | 12:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1301873 in Xfwm4 "Add support for title-less windows" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301873 | 12:59 |
| ochosi | yeah, you can to keep it on the radar | 12:59 |
| ochosi | i don't know of many headerbar-apps in 14.04 repos though | 12:59 |
| ochosi | and i'd really prefer if this patch was merged upstream first | 12:59 |
| brainwash | more will be added most likely | 12:59 |
| brainwash | if it becomes popular | 13:00 |
| brainwash | mostly from apps installed via PPAs | 13:00 |
| knome | elfy, awwh. well, don't worry, we'll make sure things get released etx | 13:01 |
| knome | *etc | 13:01 |
| elfy | glad I looked first before intalling unity-greeter ... with recommends it wants to use 90Mb of sapce ... | 13:02 |
| elfy | knome: lol - I thought I would let you know :) | 13:02 |
| knome | yep, good good | 13:02 |
| knome | http://pad.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu1404Final | 13:03 |
| knome | started preparing that stuff as well.. | 13:03 |
| elfy | bookmarked - I'll start fiddling with that too | 13:04 |
| knome | known issues in notes are taken from -t-bugs | 13:04 |
| elfy | yep | 13:04 |
| knome | things marked with ??? are probably either going away or we don't know much about them yet | 13:04 |
| knome | the text body is from the beta 1 announcement | 13:05 |
| elfy | yep | 13:05 |
| elfy | ochosi: lightdm-set-defaults doesn't work in tahr, not got time atm to work out how to change the greeter to unity - I'll try and get on it later | 13:17 |
| ochosi | elfy: just edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | 13:17 |
| ochosi | and replace "lightdm-gtk-greeter" with "unity-greeter" | 13:18 |
| elfy | I thought that too ochosi - except that file no longer exists ... | 13:19 |
| ochosi | woot | 13:19 |
| ochosi | sorry, wasn't aware of that | 13:19 |
| elfy | ochosi: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/60-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf I hope :D | 13:22 |
| ochosi | hm, not sure | 13:23 |
| ochosi | sry, gotta run | 13:23 |
| ochosi | bbl | 13:23 |
| elfy | ochosi brainwash - well it appears to now use unity-greeter - same issue when suspending with lid close | 13:25 |
| brainwash | -_- | 13:26 |
| brainwash | killall xfce4-power-manager | 13:26 |
| brainwash | and try again | 13:26 |
| elfy | suspend from menu - works ok | 13:26 |
| elfy | and the brightness was dimmed again | 13:27 |
| elfy | suspend with lid close and killall xfce-power-manager | 13:28 |
| elfy | NO black screen | 13:28 |
| brainwash | did it lock the screen? | 13:28 |
| elfy | I needed password yes | 13:28 |
| brainwash | did it actually suspend? | 13:29 |
| elfy | dbl checking | 13:29 |
| brainwash | :D | 13:29 |
| brainwash | most likely yes | 13:29 |
| elfy | yea - definitely suspended :) | 13:29 |
| brainwash | so it's xfce4-power-manager causing the trouble | 13:29 |
| elfy | ok - so ctrl+alt+f7 and I get the big screen locked message | 13:30 |
| elfy | and a very very short show of that when I unlock | 13:30 |
| brainwash | oh, so the session is unlocked for a brief moment | 13:31 |
| elfy | after password entry | 13:31 |
| elfy | just saw the big lock message fleetingly | 13:32 |
| brainwash | ah ok | 13:32 |
| elfy | yep | 13:32 |
| brainwash | we can ignore this | 13:32 |
| elfy | yep | 13:32 |
| elfy | still have the brightness issue though | 13:33 |
| brainwash | even without the power-manager running in the background? | 13:33 |
| elfy | yep | 13:33 |
| elfy | I really wouldn't make stuff up ;) | 13:34 |
| brainwash | is the greeter screen also dimmed? | 13:34 |
| elfy | not sure - checking | 13:34 |
| elfy | yes | 13:35 |
| elfy | trying something | 13:35 |
| brainwash | did you already update your system today? | 13:38 |
| elfy | no | 13:39 |
| elfy | well not the one in question | 13:39 |
| brainwash | we need xfpm without the syncing of the lock settings for this test case | 13:40 |
| elfy | so don't upgrade it? | 13:40 |
| brainwash | 1) enable lock on suspend in power-manager and disable it in light-locker 2) vice versa | 13:41 |
| brainwash | yes, don't upgrade yet | 13:41 |
| brainwash | and run the usual suspend routine for 1) and then for 2) | 13:41 |
| elfy | ok | 13:44 |
| elfy | 1 - black screen | 13:44 |
| elfy | 2 - comes straight back with no password | 13:44 |
| brainwash | thanks for doing so many test runs :) | 13:47 |
| RFleming | does this mean suspend will soon work? :) | 13:48 |
| elfy | brainwash: that's ok - I'm sat here doing other things on this machine | 13:48 |
| brainwash | RFleming: suspend is not broken | 13:48 |
| elfy | if necessary workround is suspend from menu and shut the lid :) | 13:48 |
| RFleming | brainwash, on my home laptop it doesn't function. | 13:49 |
| elfy | RFleming: from the menu? | 13:49 |
| RFleming | either hitting suspend from menu or closing the lid, my machine starts the suspend function and doesn't complete. | 13:49 |
| RFleming | locks up the interface where I cannot click, and the only way to get out of it is to go to tty and restart lightdm | 13:49 |
| RFleming | all the while the suspend light happily flashes :) | 13:50 |
| brainwash | sounds like a different issue | 13:50 |
| RFleming | tomorrow I'll try and bring it in. | 13:51 |
| brainwash | we were talking about the black screen problem after resuming from suspend (via lid close) + unlocking | 13:51 |
| brainwash | so suspend works in this case | 13:51 |
| brainwash | but the power-manager seems to trigger a black screen | 13:52 |
| elfy | brainwash: we done with testing for the moment? | 13:54 |
| brainwash | elfy: yes | 13:54 |
| elfy | k | 13:55 |
| elfy | so the updates don't fix the disappearing wallpaper yet then ... | 14:56 |
| brainwash | elfy: soon | 16:09 |
| brainwash | elfy: this question just came to my mind: do you mean the session logout dialog or the power manager tray icon menu when you mention "suspend via menu"? | 16:11 |
| elfy | the one from whiskermenu | 16:30 |
| ochosi | brainwash: sry, i couldn't follow all the testing now, does it point towards xfpm being the culprit? | 16:50 |
| elfy | ochosi: yea | 16:50 |
| ochosi | elfy: so without xfpm everything works just fine? | 16:51 |
| elfy | without xpfm I resume straight to the desktop | 16:51 |
| ochosi | but with password/lock-dialog, right? | 16:51 |
| elfy | yea | 16:51 |
| ochosi | ok, we need to re-assign that bugreport then... | 16:52 |
| elfy | yep - I went to count sheep shortly after we finished - just woken up | 16:53 |
| ochosi | Logan_: we encountered a nasty packaging problem in parole by the way, the plugins don't get installed correctly. we haven't been able to figure this out for quite a while, would you mind looking at it? (it only affects ubuntu, in debian, everything is fine) | 16:56 |
| brainwash | elfy: straight to the desktop with password-dialog? | 16:58 |
| ochosi | Logan_: our upstream bugreport (bluesabre and me are the parole devs) explains it a bit: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9904 | 16:58 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9904 in General "Notification icon plugin not working" [Normal,Needinfo] | 16:58 |
| elfy | brainwash: [14:44] <elfy> 2 - comes straight back with no password | 16:59 |
| brainwash | yea, so I'm confused | 16:59 |
| brainwash | please suspend via xfpm's tray menu | 17:00 |
| Logan_ | ochosi: I'll take a look later if I get the chance | 17:00 |
| ochosi | Logan_: thanks, that'll be much appreciated. this problem has been plagueing us for ages... | 17:01 |
| elfy | brainwash: it'll have to wait till tomorrow now - the laptop isn't in the house now | 17:01 |
| brainwash | oh wait... we disabled xfpm's tray icon | 17:01 |
| ochosi | :> | 17:01 |
| ochosi | brainwash, elfy: a little birdy whispered something into my ear: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10535 | 17:02 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10535 in General "power manager does not restore screen power" [Normal,New] | 17:02 |
| elfy | I suspended from the only other default option I had | 17:02 |
| ochosi | i gotta run again (dinner), but please update the bugreport and link the upstream one if you get a chance | 17:02 |
| elfy | ochosi: did that | 17:03 |
| elfy | and marked as a dupe | 17:04 |
| ochosi | ty, bbl | 17:04 |
| brainwash | elfy: but didn't everything work fine with xfpm running in the background after unchecking all the "lock on suspend2 checkboxes? | 17:06 |
| elfy | brainwash: the only way to get it to work fine is suspend from a menu or kill xpfm | 17:08 |
| elfy | biab | 17:08 |
| brainwash | elfy: "2 - comes straight back with no password" | 17:10 |
| GridCube | brainwash, i can't test right now, but as i've disabled the xfpm to start automatically, and i assume its not working (again cant check) the login screen from lightlocker sent me directly to the desktop | 17:14 |
| GridCube | that was the 4 times i waked the computer yesterday | 17:14 |
| Logan_ | ochosi: can you give me a testcase? | 17:15 |
| brainwash | GridCube: thanks for confirming | 17:21 |
| GridCube | brainwash, it did asked my password, (and once the lightlocker password box was there but the screen brightness was 0% so i was basically black) | 17:23 |
| GridCube | but after typing the password the desktop was normal | 17:23 |
| GridCube | i just wish i could stop it from suspending :( | 17:24 |
| starrats | I updating/upgrading and lost the wifi in the middle of upgrading libreoffice and i was down for about 20 minutes. could not get back on and then i went into the rceovery mode to see if i could there and now back on again | 17:32 |
| starrats | I only stated this because this is the second time this has happened to me, but i blame the connection loss this time last time it was numerous things that went wrong all at once. | 17:36 |
| ochosi | Logan_: well simply put: the version of parole that we ship in xubuntu has non-functional plugins, because they end up in the wrong place | 17:59 |
| ochosi | Logan_: if you install the package from debian in ubuntu, it just works | 17:59 |
| ochosi | elfy: quick question on all the complicated testing (you should've written down all the scenarios and the results btw, as a notice for next time ;)) | 18:42 |
| * elfy was the guinea pig ... | 18:43 | |
| ochosi | did things work out fine when you unchecked lock-on-suspend *only* in xfpm but left it checked in xfce4-session | 18:43 |
| elfy | no hands - just feet ... | 18:43 |
| ochosi | true, it's brainwash's fault | 18:43 |
| ochosi | :) | 18:43 |
| elfy | blame brainwash :) | 18:43 |
| * ochosi does | 18:43 | |
| elfy | I can't remember tbh | 18:44 |
| ochosi | :/ | 18:44 |
| elfy | but the laptop is back now though ;) | 18:44 |
| ochosi | you know, that means we might have to send you through this hell once more... | 18:44 |
| ochosi | but this time take notes of every testcase with result | 18:44 |
| ochosi | could do a google spreadsheet | 18:44 |
| ochosi | or something alike | 18:44 |
| elfy | booting it now | 18:45 |
| elfy | little one came back earlier than expected | 18:45 |
| elfy | ochosi: unchecked lock-on-suspend *only* in xfpm but left it checked in xfce4-session - result is resumes to desktop | 18:47 |
| ochosi | humm | 18:47 |
| ochosi | then it might really be a problem of xflock getting called twice | 18:47 |
| ochosi | could you also try the other way round? | 18:47 |
| ochosi | uncheck in session and check in xfpm | 18:48 |
| elfy | that comes back - BUT cursor is invisible | 18:50 |
| elfy | just going to confirm that | 18:52 |
| brainwash | bug 1297144 | 18:53 |
| ubottu | bug 1297144 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "Invisible cursor after resume from suspend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297144 | 18:53 |
| elfy | thanks brainwash | 18:53 |
| elfy | actually uncheck in session and check in xfpm - black screen | 18:55 |
| elfy | not sure how I got the other issue | 18:55 |
| brainwash | uncheck in power-manager and session | 18:56 |
| elfy | confirmed that last one twice | 18:56 |
| elfy | straight to desktop | 18:57 |
| brainwash | with unlock screen? | 18:58 |
| elfy | no - straight to desktop | 18:58 |
| brainwash | so light-locker's lock on suspend is disabled? | 18:59 |
| elfy | no - enabled | 18:59 |
| brainwash | ok | 18:59 |
| brainwash | elfy: I did expect that the screen gets locked | 19:06 |
| elfy | so did I | 19:08 |
| brainwash | so we know now that the black screen is only triggered if you tell xfpm to lock on suspend | 19:08 |
| elfy | I just did session on, lls on, xfpm off - straight to desktop | 19:08 |
| elfy | I expected that to need password | 19:08 |
| brainwash | we can ignore the session one, because you suspend via lid close | 19:09 |
| elfy | I'm just going to work through them all and write them down for 30 minutes | 19:09 |
| brainwash | might be not needed | 19:10 |
| ochosi | elfy: please do that | 19:11 |
| brainwash | but got all info, don't we? | 19:11 |
| ochosi | brainwash: tomorrow or in ~1hr you'll have forgotten everything about these testcases again and then poor elfy has to do them once again | 19:11 |
| ochosi | yeah, but we might have to explain it to others as well | 19:11 |
| ochosi | best to just have it in a table | 19:11 |
| ochosi | with the conditions in columns | 19:12 |
| ochosi | and the testcases in rows | 19:12 |
| brainwash | xfpm inhibits logind and that might be reason why light-locker is not triggered via dbus on suspend | 19:12 |
| brainwash | and xfpm does some mysterious things when it calls xflock4 on suspend | 19:12 |
| brainwash | which triggers the black screen | 19:13 |
| brainwash | running xfpm with its lock checkbox unchecked works fine | 19:13 |
| ochosi | i think it spawns xflock on the cmdline tbh | 19:14 |
| elfy | the long and short of it is - any combination that includes xfpm being enabled and a lid close gets you a black screen | 19:26 |
| elfy | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmA-9EbkJPYddDVzSk5RdHotTVpRMlc5aGFicDJ2X0E&usp=sharing | 19:31 |
| elfy | ochosi brainwash ^^ | 19:31 |
| ochosi | thanks elfy | 19:32 |
| ochosi | that's exactly what i was thinking of | 19:32 |
| elfy | good :) | 19:33 |
| elfy | it does seem to prove this afternoons pointing at xfpm | 19:33 |
| ochosi | yeah, the code is really complex for that part | 19:35 |
| ochosi | lots of places that interact with the suspend and lid-close events | 19:35 |
| elfy | how surprising ... | 19:36 |
| elfy | oh - that was all with unity-greeter by the way - but it's the same with our's | 19:37 |
| ochosi | yeah, that's good to know | 19:38 |
| ochosi | so lightdm-gtk-greeter is not at fault | 19:38 |
| elfy | yep | 19:38 |
| ochosi | btw, one last test | 19:38 |
| ochosi | if you can | 19:38 |
| elfy | yep | 19:38 |
| ochosi | just an idea, what if you close the lid and then switch to e.g. VT2 and kill xfce4-power-manager | 19:39 |
| elfy | with which permutation of them all | 19:39 |
| elfy | not all of them ... that'd not be one test ;) | 19:39 |
| ochosi | haha | 19:40 |
| ochosi | no, just with one of those that reproduces the error | 19:40 |
| ochosi | as you correctly said, all permutations seem to point to the same culprit | 19:40 |
| elfy | nope - black screen | 19:44 |
| ochosi | ok | 19:45 |
| elfy | added it to the doc | 19:45 |
| elfy | unity-greeter in Xubuntu - starts that horrid aubergine colour and morphs to a nice blue :) | 19:47 |
| ochosi | :) | 19:47 |
| Logan_ | unity-greeter still looks somewhat odd with Xubuntu | 19:48 |
| elfy | it does :) | 19:49 |
| ochosi | yeah, doesn't really fit | 19:49 |
| ochosi | Logan_: i take that as a compliment for lightdm-gtk-greeter btw ;) | 19:49 |
| Logan_ | not at all :P | 19:49 |
| Logan_ | lightdm-gtk-greeter looks like a relic from Windows 95 | 19:49 |
| Logan_ | but I'll deal | 19:50 |
| elfy | ochosi: oh - by the way - it was that /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/60-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf file btw | 19:50 |
| Logan_ | http://cl.ly/image/1z0R3p0o1N3S | 19:51 |
| Logan_ | is it supposed to look that awful? :P | 19:51 |
| ochosi | Logan_: ouch, noooo! | 19:51 |
| elfy | mine doesn;t look like that at all | 19:51 |
| ochosi | Logan_: i'll post a screener in a sec | 19:51 |
| ochosi | elfy: thanks, will remember | 19:51 |
| elfy | ochosi: I has a screenie | 19:53 |
| ochosi | sure post it | 19:53 |
| ochosi | as long as it looks perrty :) | 19:53 |
| elfy | well it's not default ... | 19:53 |
| ochosi | oh :) | 19:53 |
| elfy | http://imagebin.org/304670 | 19:53 |
| ochosi | ah well, it's greybird | 19:54 |
| ochosi | and close enough to default | 19:54 |
| elfy | and that's actually a photo ... | 19:54 |
| elfy | :p | 19:54 |
| ochosi | haha | 19:54 |
| elfy | did you want another theme - do I have to go wallpaper less again ... :) | 19:55 |
| ochosi | no, it's fine | 19:55 |
| ochosi | this is looking good | 19:55 |
| elfy | oh good :) | 19:55 |
| elfy | Logan_: the screenie up a few lines is how it looks for me | 19:56 |
| ochosi | (and everybody else) | 19:56 |
| Logan_ | what on earth is wrong with my setup? :P | 19:56 |
| Unit193 | Logan_: What's in your /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf ? | 19:57 |
| ochosi | this is closer to default: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-04-08-215739.php | 19:57 |
| ochosi | elfy: and also a photo ^ | 19:58 |
| elfy | awesome photo's we have ochosi :D | 19:58 |
| ochosi | elfy: s/photo's/photos/ | 19:58 |
| Logan_ | Unit193: oh, I think I see the problem :P | 19:58 |
| ochosi | brainwash: if you're around, mind to put the cursor-unhide branch of light-locker in your PPA? | 19:59 |
| Logan_ | can someone pastebin me their /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf ? | 19:59 |
| ochosi | Logan_: just grab the file from xubuntu-default-settings | 19:59 |
| Logan_ | apparently I'm still using the one from when I installed Lubuntu... | 19:59 |
| elfy | http://pastebin.com/z1up8Nbf | 20:00 |
| ochosi | e.g. sudo apt-get install xubuntu-default-settings --reinstall | 20:00 |
| elfy | and that from defualt | 20:00 |
| ochosi | or from the bzr branch of x-d-s | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | Logan_: That should be a link to the one in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/ | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 55 Oct 31 21:01 /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf -> /etc/alternatives/lightdm-gtk-greeter-config-derivative | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | (Well, and) lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 53 Oct 31 21:01 /etc/alternatives/lightdm-gtk-greeter-config-derivative -> /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf | 20:01 |
| Logan_ | ah | 20:01 |
| Logan_ | that's better :) | 20:02 |
| elfy | Logan_: :) | 20:03 |
| ochosi | brainwash: and secondly, could you put xfpm in your PPA (from xubuntu) but with this patch: http://dpaste.com/1774505/ | 20:04 |
| elfy | then tell elfy when it's there and he'll do them all again he suspects :( | 20:06 |
| ochosi | darn, elfy is too clever... | 20:10 |
| ochosi | :D | 20:10 |
| elfy | :) | 20:10 |
| ochosi | ofc not, just start with one of those that fails | 20:10 |
| elfy | yea :) | 20:10 |
| ochosi | and then complete all the ones that failed | 20:10 |
| ochosi | the rest should still be fine | 20:10 |
| elfy | yea :0 | 20:10 |
| elfy | :) | 20:10 |
| ochosi | ideally you'll get both patches, invisible cursor and blank screen | 20:11 |
| elfy | I only got that once - and then couldn't reproduce it | 20:11 |
| elfy | inviscursor | 20:11 |
| ochosi | oh | 20:11 |
| ochosi | then we'll have to find a different guinea pig :'( | 20:12 |
| elfy | ochosi: you will for invisicursor -unless I can reproduce it somehow | 20:17 |
| elfy | I'll suspend it till tomorrow and see if that does it | 20:20 |
| ochosi | was the suspend-time somehow related to that? | 20:20 |
| elfy | "I wake up the computer after it spending some time in the suspend state, the cursor will be invisible" | 20:21 |
| ochosi | hmm,right | 20:21 |
| elfy | I assume this is affecting more than the one person | 20:21 |
| elfy | is it my imagination or have more people washed up on our shores this cycle wanting to get involved? | 20:23 |
| ochosi | no, i think that observation is true | 20:28 |
| ochosi | although we had a few dire cycles, with few ppl showing up | 20:28 |
| ochosi | so an increase was easy to achieve | 20:28 |
| ochosi | Logan_: btw, was my testcase clear enough or were you expecting something else? | 20:29 |
| Logan_ | I'm not sure if I'd be able to fix that, tbh | 20:32 |
| ochosi | why's that? | 20:32 |
| Logan_ | you'd need someone more experienced in packaging from scratch | 20:32 |
| ochosi | right | 20:32 |
| ochosi | know anyone by chance? | 20:32 |
| Logan_ | infinity is good with stuff | 20:34 |
| Logan_ | (I hope that was a good enough recommendation) | 20:34 |
| ochosi | right, i'm just worried that ppl whom i don't know and who aren't associated with xubuntu in any way simply won't care enough | 20:38 |
| ochosi | and ppl are busy usually | 20:38 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: hey, how's xfdesktop's release coming along? | 20:38 |
| Noskcaj | branching the code now | 20:39 |
| ochosi | oh cool | 20:39 |
| Logan_ | fair enough | 20:40 |
| Logan_ | I'll do my best | 20:40 |
| Logan_ | want to do a bit of reading first, though | 20:40 |
| Noskcaj | but corsac just uploaded it to debian, so since we've still got a day to spare, i might wait till i can merge | 20:40 |
| Noskcaj | Logan_, What's the issue? | 20:40 |
| ochosi | Logan_: sure, this is such a longstanding issue there's no real rush | 20:40 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: the parole plugin packaging issue | 20:40 |
| Noskcaj | ? | 20:40 |
| ochosi | parole's plugins don't work in xubuntu | 20:41 |
| ochosi | even though they do in debian | 20:41 |
| ochosi | if you install the debian package in ubuntu, the plugins work | 20:41 |
| Logan_ | lemme compare the file lists | 20:41 |
| ochosi | somehow they seem to end up in the wrong place | 20:41 |
| Logan_ | I'll do a debdiff | 20:41 |
| Logan_ | ochosi: there's literally no difference in the file lists | 20:43 |
| ochosi | yeah | 20:43 |
| ochosi | it's puzzling | 20:43 |
| Logan_ | except for a language thingamajig and the changelog | 20:43 |
| Logan_ | can I have an STR? :P | 20:43 |
| Logan_ | like, what should I do to reproduce the issue | 20:43 |
| ochosi | just try to open the plugin dialog in parole in your stock xubuntu | 20:44 |
| Logan_ | because I've never used parole | 20:44 |
| Logan_ | or been on parole | 20:44 |
| ochosi | it'll fail | 20:44 |
| Logan_ | but I digress | 20:44 |
| ochosi | :) | 20:44 |
| Logan_ | okay it opened | 20:44 |
| ochosi | then install the package from debian and it'll work | 20:44 |
| Unit193 | What I came up with, it's something with either dh_configure, or maybe buildflags. | 20:44 |
| ochosi | well, try to activate one | 20:44 |
| Logan_ | plugin failed to load | 20:44 |
| ochosi | Unit193: oh, you're around, would be much better if you took this | 20:45 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: No, Logan_ is far better than I am. :) | 20:45 |
| ochosi | Logan_: yup, it doesn't find the plugin | 20:45 |
| ochosi | Unit193: yeah, but you're better than me and you've looked at this before as well | 20:45 |
| Logan_ | stop flattering me, Unit | 20:45 |
| ochosi | Unit193: i meant: if you take *my* part, not his ;) | 20:45 |
| Logan_ | which is cheering me on? | 20:46 |
| Unit193 | Tried different stripping too. | 20:46 |
| Logan_ | kinky | 20:46 |
| ochosi | :D | 20:46 |
| ochosi | you packagers are weird ppl! :D | 20:46 |
| * elfy shuts his eyes are wanders off | 20:47 | |
| Logan_ | let me do some experimentation | 20:47 |
| * elfy shuts his eyes and wanders off again | 20:48 | |
| Logan_ | okay, that one wasn't on purpose, I swear! :P | 20:49 |
| Unit193 | Mhmm... | 20:50 |
| elfy | :) | 20:50 |
| Unit193 | I even started doing a diff of the build logs, but as one was 32bit and the other was 64, I got busy with other things and never looked. | 20:51 |
| Logan_ | un momento | 20:52 |
| Logan_ | I have an unstable and a trusty chroot, so I'll build the same package in both | 20:53 |
| Logan_ | and I'll compare the logs | 20:53 |
| ochosi | thanks for the effort Logan_ | 21:04 |
| ochosi | bbiab | 21:04 |
| Logan_ | ochosi: I'm in over my head, haha | 21:12 |
| Unit193 | Yey! Not just me. :) | 21:14 |
| * elfy too - so much I've no idea what you're talking about ;) | 21:14 | |
| Noskcaj | Logan_, Did you end up getting a build log diff? | 21:28 |
| Logan_ | it wasn't awfully helpful | 21:28 |
| Logan_ | one moment | 21:29 |
| Unit193 | Well, one bad way to check it, use a hook to grab the debhelper from Debian. :P | 21:30 |
| Logan_ | it would be in one of the helpers | 21:31 |
| Logan_ | like dh-shlibs or whatever | 21:32 |
| Logan_ | no, not that | 21:32 |
| Unit193 | Logan_: Did you export verbose when you built? | 21:37 |
| Logan_ | that would probably be helpful | 21:38 |
| Unit193 | Trying something, in a min. | 21:38 |
| Logan_ | Noskcaj, ochosi, Unit193: http://www.diffchecker.com/q7xn77oq | 21:42 |
| Logan_ | same package (from Debian), Trusty on the left, Experimental on the right | 21:42 |
| brainwash | ochosi: updated the ppa | 22:18 |
| brainwash | ochosi: your system is not affected by this problem at all? | 22:19 |
| ochosi | brainwash: thanks | 22:27 |
| ochosi | well it is, but only by the lid-close bug | 22:28 |
| ochosi | and i didn't notice for a long time because it seemingly doesn't affect multihead-setups | 22:28 |
| ochosi | really specific, that bug. | 22:28 |
| brainwash | oh, hopefully we'll get it fixed in time | 22:29 |
| ochosi | yup would be good | 22:29 |
| ochosi | the invisible cursor one i've never encountered | 22:30 |
| ochosi | so the patch is guesswork | 22:30 |
| ochosi | or a workaround | 22:31 |
| ochosi | brainwash: something is odd with that version you put up | 22:36 |
| ochosi | nothing much happens on the lid event anymore | 22:36 |
| brainwash | hmpf | 22:39 |
| Justanick | Are you talking about the black screen after login after a standby session? | 22:39 |
| brainwash | ochosi: kill it and restart it from terminal "xfce4-power-manager --debug" | 22:39 |
| brainwash | Justanick: yes | 22:40 |
| ochosi | brainwash: it's odd, it still locks on lid close if i set it to do that, but suspend doesn't work anymore. maybe missed a compile flag? | 22:40 |
| Justanick | Also affect. If you need any information. | 22:40 |
| brainwash | ochosi: that's strange | 22:45 |
| brainwash | it's just a rebuild + patch | 22:45 |
| ochosi | brainwash: i understand, not sure what to say | 22:46 |
| ochosi | does it work for you? | 22:46 |
| ochosi | to some extent, this version also "fixes" the bug :p | 22:46 |
| brainwash | my desktop pc lacks a lid to close :) | 22:46 |
| * Unit193 trying something else. | 22:47 | |
| brainwash | ochosi: does the official ubuntu version work properly? | 22:47 |
| ochosi | yup | 22:47 |
| ochosi | Unit193: still? that was a loooong minute | 22:47 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Heeey, I was doing other stuff too. :P | 22:48 |
| ochosi | Unit193: suuuuure :) | 22:48 |
| Unit193 | Reviewing logs, fixing VM to test it, watch an episode of something, etc, etc. :P | 22:49 |
| Unit193 | Also, I should stop bundleing "fixes" together. | 22:51 |
| Unit193 | -e | 22:51 |
| brainwash | ochosi: I can redo it and then re-upload | 22:54 |
| ochosi | brainwash: thanks, that'd be nice | 22:55 |
| brainwash | can you install the official one to verify that it works? | 22:55 |
| ochosi | well that's what i had before i used your version and that worked | 22:57 |
| ochosi | i mean suspend on lid-close | 22:57 |
| Unit193 | Crap, what fixed it? | 23:04 |
| ochosi | what fixed what? | 23:07 |
| Unit193 | parole. | 23:11 |
| ochosi | Unit193: oh, so you performed a lot of changes in the packaging and now it just works? :p | 23:15 |
| brainwash | ochosi: the diff looks interesting | 23:15 |
| brainwash | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/172285540/xfce4-power-manager_1.2.0-3ubuntu4test1_1.2.0-3ubuntu4test2.diff.gz | 23:15 |
| brainwash | basically building the same thing | 23:15 |
| * ochosi shrugs | 23:16 | |
| Unit193 | ochosi: ...Only a few. :P | 23:16 |
| brainwash | does it suspend if you kill xfpm? | 23:16 |
| Unit193 | I'll have a package for you in a sec, got to get pizza and coffee. | 23:17 |
| ochosi | sry guys, gotta hit the sack now, have a big day tomorrow | 23:17 |
| brainwash | good night | 23:18 |
| Unit193 | But, but, but. :( | 23:18 |
| ochosi | Unit193: but you need your coffee and pizza and i need my sleep... | 23:18 |
| Justanick | Night | 23:19 |
| Unit193 | Logan_, ochosi: https://unit193.net/parole_0.6.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb <--- Try that. | 23:29 |
| Unit193 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1286046 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1168810 are both considered to be https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9904 | 23:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1286046 in parole (Ubuntu) "parole crashed with SIGSEGV in notify_provider_finalize()" [Medium,Triaged] | 23:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1168810 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole does not show tray icon on notification area" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 23:38 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9904 in General "Notification icon plugin not working" [Normal,Needinfo] | 23:38 |
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