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bluesabreLogan_, do you have access to the branches, or just universe?00:58
bluesabrehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker-settings/+bug/129073700:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1290737 in light-locker-settings (Ubuntu) "Switch off (dpms) time maybe overwritten by xfce power manager" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:58
Logan_bluesabre: just universe and multiverse00:58
Logan_wait, which branches are you referring to?00:59
Logan_I can do lp:ubuntu/<any package in universe/multiverse> as well01:00
bluesabrelp:ubuntu/trusty/light-locker-settings01:00
Logan_yeah01:00
bluesabreequally, we can upload an upload of that version, right?01:00
bluesabrealso, thanks a bunch for all the uploads today :)01:00
Logan_upload an upload? now you're losing me :P01:01
Logan_I can merge that, if you want01:01
bluesabreyeah, that :D01:02
bluesabremy brain gets a bit foggy after working for 12 hours01:02
Logan_my brain is always rather foggy01:02
bluesabre:)01:03
bluesabrebrainwash_, you around?01:03
brainwash_hey bluesabre 01:04
bluesabresweet!01:04
bluesabreochosi mentioned indicators to me01:04
bluesabreand said your ppa has the fixes01:04
brainwash_you want to test or prepare something?01:05
bluesabreboth... first I'm curious what thing(s) it fixes :)01:06
brainwash_it's ali1234's patch01:06
brainwash_http://git.xfce.org/users/ajb/xfce4-indicator-plugin/01:06
brainwash_so indicator-plugin starts and ends the indicator services01:07
brainwash_via upstart01:07
bluesabreoh nice01:08
bluesabreso no dealing with autostart01:08
brainwash_right, the normal autostart launchers were changed01:09
bluesabreyeah01:09
ali1234brainwash_: you said there was a bug earlier01:09
brainwash_ali1234: the upstart init process is launched twice with your path01:10
ali1234the bug is really obvious if you look at the code01:10
ali1234i meant to move that piece of code but copied it instead01:10
brainwash_:D01:10
ali1234so it does it twice01:10
brainwash_which isn't that bad.. until you logout and not all processes terminate01:11
brainwash_so they keep the previous session alive01:11
ali1234silly xfce git doesn't allow push -f01:12
brainwash_what about your title-less windows patch? I guess it's too late to get it in, but it works fine for me01:13
ali1234http://git.xfce.org/users/ajb/xfce4-indicator-plugin/commit/?h=upstart-init-201:13
ali1234what about it?01:14
brainwash_it's done or?01:14
ali1234i guess01:14
brainwash_like months ago01:14
ali1234i don;t use it01:14
brainwash_I do.. but I just don't use apps to test it properly01:16
brainwash_it works for gthumb with the numix theme01:16
brainwash_:)01:16
Logan_bluesabre: uploaded01:16
bluesabrethanks Logan_ !01:17
Logan_no problem :)01:17
bluesabreI suppose I'll probably have an indicator upload available in the morning01:17
bluesabrebrainwash: are you adding the new patch to your ppa?01:17
brainwash_maybe, not sure if moving the code block changes anything at all01:21
brainwash_ali1234: why did you move the code block to the construct function?01:21
ali1234seemed more appropriate01:21
brainwash_ok01:22
brainwash_bluesabre: I've told Noskcaj to prepare the indicator-plugin branch, so hopefully we don't end up with two branches :)01:25
bluesabre:)01:30
bluesabrewe'll see which one appears first01:30
bluesabreI'll check to make sure he hasn't prepared a branch on the side01:31
bluesabrelooks like we're still in the clear01:32
Pwnnawait04:34
Pwnnaso i have a cron job running every 5 minutes04:34
Pwnnabut it's not in crontab04:34
Pwnnaor anywhere in cron.d04:34
Pwnnawtf?04:35
Noskcaj_schoolbluesabre: Feel free to fix the indicator issue. I can't do packaging stuff till tomorrow morning, and have to do xfdesktop first04:35
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jhenkegoood morning06:32
elfyo/06:35
jhenkeokay update time06:36
jhenke13.10 -> 14.04, wish me luck ;)06:36
elfy:)06:36
jhenkehmm interesting: update-manager -d -c06:46
jhenkeERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for Dbusmenu06:46
jhenkeERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for Unity06:46
jhenkeWARNING:root:can not import unity GI cannot import name Dbusmenu06:46
jhenkebut proably not important06:46
ochosimorning everyone06:48
jhenkemoin ochosi06:48
ochosihi jhenke 06:49
elfyhi ochosi 06:49
ochosihey elfy 06:49
ochosithanks for being so persistent with the debugging last night06:49
ochosii'll try whether i can reproduce this oddity with the lid06:49
elfyyou're welcome as always :)06:49
ochosithat was a really helpful session you had there06:49
elfyif all I can so is grab info for people that can do more - then I'll do that :)06:50
ochosinow we "only" have to fix the issue :>06:50
elfy... 06:50
elfyindeed ;)06:50
ochosifrankly, if this ends up a known issue for 14.04, it'll be fixed in 14.04.106:50
ochosiand we can suggest an easy workaround: disable lock on suspend by default :D06:51
elfywhich will be easier when the disable buttons sync :p06:52
ochosiyup06:53
ochosiwhich is about to land though06:53
ochosithanks to Logan_ 06:53
elfyyep06:53
elfyyea indeed :)06:53
elfytakes the pressure off micahg I guess :)06:53
ochosiyeah, as soon as we have other ppl with push-rights to our branches06:59
`Fibzlock on suspend works fine over here07:00
jhenkeI also thought the different falvours have control over their specfic branches, seems quite idiotic to have always relay on ubuntu people to push everything07:01
ochosi`Fibz: good to hear. also on lid-close?07:05
`Fibzdont have a laptop handy. i can report back on that tomorrow07:05
elfyochosi: we going to push your blog post out before release? 07:05
elfyor are we going to publish a whole bunch at the same time :)07:06
ochosi`Fibz: thanks, that'd be great07:06
ochosielfy: hm, haven't thought of a concrete date, i assumed soon after the release07:06
ochosiguess ideally i still have to add two screenshots07:07
elfyokey doke 07:07
* elfy was just wondering 07:07
ochosibut i'm open to suggestions07:07
ochosiif there are good reasons to publish it beforehands i don't mind07:07
elfywell I have had people wanting to know about sound missing when it's locked 07:08
elfyand people ARE using the beta now 07:08
elfyjust a thought 07:08
ochosihmright07:11
ochosii'll talk to knome when he's around07:11
elfyok07:11
jhenkethe worse thing with such upgrades is the waiting....07:36
knomeochosi, elfy: i'm fine with any publishing date09:06
elfyhi knome - okey doke - I didn't want to do mine till later anyway - after release at the earliest - was just concerned about a bunch going out at the same time and not being seen until the page gets sorted09:08
knomei should get the fixes in ASAP09:10
knomei pretty much have them ready locally, but this sickness is slowing me down09:10
elfyokay - well don't rush on my account09:13
knomeheh09:15
knomewell my intention is to get it in before 14.04 release09:15
knomeand since it involves the canonical IS, would be better to get it in queue ASAP09:15
elfyI can concur with that appraisal of the situation ... 09:17
jhenkeupgrade looks good so far, but a lot of old config data left behind09:32
ochosithat's normal09:32
jhenkeand the ibus problem09:35
elfyyep09:35
jhenkeafter upgrade keyboard layout is en_US09:35
elfywe're making a decision on that tomorrow 09:36
jhenkelight-locker is huge improvement09:39
jhenkexscreensaver always looked very out of place09:39
ochosithanks, that is nice to hear09:39
knomehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-14-04-point-109:48
brainwashLogan_: hey, what's this xfdesktop4 4.11.5-1ubuntu1 ? :)09:48
ochosii think it's a rebase against debian09:50
brainwashok09:51
brainwashochosi: did you already read bug 1304064?10:05
ubottubug 1304064 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "Light Locker - screen is blank after login when screen was blanked and locked" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130406410:05
ochosiyeah, apart from this line it seems to be a duplicate: 10:06
ochosiEvery time it is locked and is blanked, I lose the session to a blank screen after login. 10:06
brainwashindeed, a duplicate10:07
brainwashlocked and blanked... mmh10:07
brainwashcould it be that xfpm fails to restore the screen brightness?10:09
brainwashor messes with it10:09
elfyoooh - I was getting that yesterday when fiddling while debugging with you10:10
brainwashdid you try to restore the brightness manually?10:11
brainwashsounds unlikely that this would help10:11
brainwashpeople would have tried that already10:11
brainwashochosi: the kb shortcut changes are not required, but we want to make sure that the shortcut file don't get messed up10:13
brainwashelfy: can you confirm bug 1304128?10:17
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ochosibrainwash: yeah, i think i mentioned that first part in my review10:25
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bluesabresheesh10:34
bluesabrehttps://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-indicator-plugin/upstart-init/+merge/21471310:35
bluesabrehey Logan_, ^ here's the branch for the indicator-plugin fix.  If you get a chance to upload it today, I'd be grateful :)10:36
bluesabres/upload/merge10:36
bluesabreochosi, brainwash: ta-da!10:36
brainwashwait a minute, why don't we simply use an upstart job to start the indicator services? :)10:37
brainwashbluesabre: nice10:37
ochosithanks bluesabre 10:47
elfybrainwash: I thought we were aware that we're not removing xscreensaver - but that the conf file calls light-locker first now 12:02
brainwashelfy: but it should be removed then unless the user (re)installed xscreensaver manually12:42
elfyok - so we need to also remove the bottom panel - because we don't use that anymore, remove gthumb - we don't use that either12:43
elfypretty sure this has all been discussed weeks ago12:43
knomeelfy, did you notice https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-14-04-point-1 ?12:43
elfyknome: I did thanks :)12:44
knomenp12:44
brainwashbottom panel might be saved in the user config12:44
elfyso will changes someone has made to xscreensaver12:44
brainwashI talking about the xscreensaver package12:45
brainwashwe don't depend on it anymore12:45
brainwashsame applies for gthumb I guess12:45
elfyI know what you're talking about - xflock4 calls light-locker first so it gets used first afaik12:46
elfypersonally I think there are other things to be worrying about at the moment12:46
brainwashok, but this isn't the problem, xscreensaver runs in the background and does blank the screen12:46
brainwashor displays a screensaver12:46
elfyno idea - waiting for it 12:47
brainwashnot a deal breaker, but you know the common (x)ubuntu user12:47
brainwash"why are both programs installed?"12:48
elfy:)12:48
elfywaiting for light-locker to blank the screen after 1 minute ... 12:48
brainwash1 minute is rather short12:48
brainwashdo you test anything?12:49
elfynot when you're waiting for it so you can get on with other stuff it isn't ;)12:49
elfywhat? 12:50
brainwashor what's the deal with the 1minute blank timer?12:50
ochosielfy: since you can reproduce that bug with light-locker, could you try to use unity-greeter (just to rule out that gtk-greeter is somehow involved)?12:51
brainwashoh, gtk-greeter does set the timeout to 1 minute in lock mode12:52
ochosiyes12:53
ochosii mean it works in the normal circumstances, so it'd be odd if it didn't work with suspend, but with this bug i'm not surprised by anything anymore12:53
ochosiit seems to be so specific12:54
elfyok - so lightlocker works in an upgraded 12.04 - not worried abou xscreensaver :)12:56
elfyochosi: you mean the suspend with lid close bug?12:57
elfyknome: I've just realised that at 6pm on the 17th April I will be on a train - then not about till friday morning12:58
ochosielfy: yes12:58
elfyochosi: ok - I'll do that now12:58
ochosity12:59
brainwashochosi: should I add bug 1301873 to 14.04.1?12:59
ubottubug 1301873 in Xfwm4 "Add support for title-less windows" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130187312:59
ochosiyeah, you can to keep it on the radar12:59
ochosii don't know of many headerbar-apps in 14.04 repos though12:59
ochosiand i'd really prefer if this patch was merged upstream first12:59
brainwashmore will be added most likely12:59
brainwashif it becomes popular13:00
brainwashmostly from apps installed via PPAs13:00
knomeelfy, awwh. well, don't worry, we'll make sure things get released etx13:01
knome*etc13:01
elfyglad I looked first before intalling unity-greeter ... with recommends it wants to use 90Mb of sapce ... 13:02
elfyknome: lol - I thought I would let you know :)13:02
knomeyep, good good13:02
knomehttp://pad.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu1404Final13:03
knomestarted preparing that stuff as well..13:03
elfybookmarked - I'll start fiddling with that too13:04
knomeknown issues in notes are taken from -t-bugs13:04
elfyyep 13:04
knomethings marked with ??? are probably either going away or we don't know much about them yet13:04
knomethe text body is from the beta 1 announcement13:05
elfyyep13:05
elfyochosi: lightdm-set-defaults doesn't work in tahr, not got time atm to work out how to change the greeter to unity - I'll try and get on it later13:17
ochosielfy: just edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf13:17
ochosiand replace "lightdm-gtk-greeter" with "unity-greeter"13:18
elfyI thought that too ochosi - except that file no longer exists ... 13:19
ochosiwoot13:19
ochosisorry, wasn't aware of that13:19
elfyochosi: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/60-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf I hope :D13:22
ochosihm, not sure13:23
ochosisry, gotta run13:23
ochosibbl13:23
elfyochosi brainwash - well it appears to now use unity-greeter - same issue when suspending with lid close13:25
brainwash-_-13:26
brainwashkillall xfce4-power-manager13:26
brainwashand try again13:26
elfysuspend from menu - works ok13:26
elfyand the brightness was dimmed again13:27
elfysuspend with lid close and killall xfce-power-manager13:28
elfyNO black screen13:28
brainwashdid it lock the screen?13:28
elfyI needed password yes 13:28
brainwashdid it actually suspend?13:29
elfydbl checking13:29
brainwash:D13:29
brainwashmost likely yes13:29
elfyyea - definitely suspended :)13:29
brainwashso it's xfce4-power-manager causing the trouble13:29
elfyok - so ctrl+alt+f7 and I get the big screen locked message13:30
elfyand a very very short show of that when I unlock 13:30
brainwashoh, so the session is unlocked for a brief moment13:31
elfyafter password entry 13:31
elfyjust saw the big lock message fleetingly13:32
brainwashah ok13:32
elfyyep13:32
brainwashwe can ignore this13:32
elfyyep13:32
elfystill have the brightness issue though13:33
brainwasheven without the power-manager running in the background?13:33
elfyyep13:33
elfyI really wouldn't make stuff up ;)13:34
brainwashis the greeter screen also dimmed?13:34
elfynot sure - checking13:34
elfyyes13:35
elfytrying something13:35
brainwashdid you already update your system today?13:38
elfyno13:39
elfywell not the one in question13:39
brainwashwe need xfpm without the syncing of the lock settings for this test case13:40
elfyso don't upgrade it?13:40
brainwash1) enable lock on suspend in power-manager and disable it in light-locker 2) vice versa13:41
brainwashyes, don't upgrade yet13:41
brainwashand run the usual suspend routine for 1) and then for 2)13:41
elfyok 13:44
elfy1 - black screen13:44
elfy2 - comes straight back with no password13:44
brainwashthanks for doing so many test runs :)13:47
RFlemingdoes this mean suspend will soon work? :)13:48
elfybrainwash: that's ok - I'm sat here doing other things on this machine 13:48
brainwashRFleming: suspend is not broken13:48
elfyif necessary workround is suspend from menu and shut the lid :)13:48
RFlemingbrainwash, on my home laptop it doesn't function.13:49
elfyRFleming: from the menu?13:49
RFlemingeither hitting suspend from menu or closing the lid, my machine starts the suspend function and doesn't complete.13:49
RFleminglocks up the interface where I cannot click, and the only way to get out of it is to go to tty and restart lightdm13:49
RFlemingall the while the suspend light happily flashes :)13:50
brainwashsounds like a different issue13:50
RFlemingtomorrow I'll try and bring it in.13:51
brainwashwe were talking about the black screen problem after resuming from suspend (via lid close) + unlocking13:51
brainwashso suspend works in this case13:51
brainwashbut the power-manager seems to trigger a black screen13:52
elfybrainwash: we done with testing for the moment?13:54
brainwashelfy: yes13:54
elfyk13:55
elfyso the updates don't fix the disappearing wallpaper yet then ... 14:56
brainwashelfy: soon16:09
brainwashelfy: this question just came to my mind: do you mean the session logout dialog or the power manager tray icon menu when you mention "suspend via menu"?16:11
elfythe one from whiskermenu16:30
ochosibrainwash: sry, i couldn't follow all the testing now, does it point towards xfpm being the culprit?16:50
elfyochosi: yea16:50
ochosielfy: so without xfpm everything works just fine?16:51
elfywithout xpfm I resume straight to the desktop 16:51
ochosibut with password/lock-dialog, right?16:51
elfyyea16:51
ochosiok, we need to re-assign that bugreport then...16:52
elfyyep - I went to count sheep shortly after we finished - just woken up 16:53
ochosiLogan_: we encountered a nasty packaging problem in parole by the way, the plugins don't get installed correctly. we haven't been able to figure this out for quite a while, would you mind looking at it? (it only affects ubuntu, in debian, everything is fine)16:56
brainwashelfy: straight to the desktop with password-dialog?16:58
ochosiLogan_: our upstream bugreport (bluesabre and me are the parole devs) explains it a bit: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990416:58
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 9904 in General "Notification icon plugin not working" [Normal,Needinfo]16:58
elfybrainwash: [14:44] <elfy> 2 - comes straight back with no password16:59
brainwashyea, so I'm confused16:59
brainwashplease suspend via xfpm's tray menu17:00
Logan_ochosi: I'll take a look later if I get the chance17:00
ochosiLogan_: thanks, that'll be much appreciated. this problem has been plagueing us for ages...17:01
elfybrainwash: it'll have to wait till tomorrow now - the laptop isn't in the house now17:01
brainwashoh wait... we disabled xfpm's tray icon17:01
ochosi:>17:01
ochosibrainwash, elfy: a little birdy whispered something into my ear: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1053517:02
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 10535 in General "power manager does not restore screen power" [Normal,New]17:02
elfyI suspended from the only other default option I had17:02
ochosii gotta run again (dinner), but please update the bugreport and link the upstream one if you get a chance17:02
elfyochosi: did that 17:03
elfyand marked as a dupe17:04
ochosity, bbl17:04
brainwashelfy: but didn't everything work fine with xfpm running in the background after unchecking all the "lock on suspend2 checkboxes?17:06
elfybrainwash: the only way to get it to work fine is suspend from a menu or kill xpfm17:08
elfybiab17:08
brainwashelfy: "2 - comes straight back with no password"17:10
GridCubebrainwash, i can't test right now, but as i've disabled the xfpm to start automatically, and i assume its not working (again cant check) the login screen from lightlocker sent me directly to the desktop17:14
GridCubethat was the 4 times i waked the computer yesterday17:14
Logan_ochosi: can you give me a testcase?17:15
brainwashGridCube: thanks for confirming17:21
GridCubebrainwash, it did asked my password, (and once the lightlocker password box was there but the screen brightness was 0% so i was basically black)17:23
GridCubebut after typing the password the desktop was normal17:23
GridCubei just wish i could stop it from suspending :(17:24
starratsI updating/upgrading and lost the wifi in the middle of upgrading libreoffice and i was down for about 20 minutes. could not get back on and then i went into the rceovery mode to see if i could there and now back on again 17:32
starratsI only stated this because this is the second time this has happened to me, but i blame the connection loss this time last time it was numerous things that went wrong all at once.17:36
ochosiLogan_: well simply put: the version of parole that we ship in xubuntu has non-functional plugins, because they end up in the wrong place17:59
ochosiLogan_: if you install the package from debian in ubuntu, it just works17:59
ochosielfy: quick question on all the complicated testing (you should've written down all the scenarios and the results btw, as a notice for next time ;))18:42
* elfy was the guinea pig ... 18:43
ochosidid things work out fine when you unchecked lock-on-suspend *only* in xfpm but left it checked in xfce4-session18:43
elfyno hands - just feet ... 18:43
ochositrue, it's brainwash's fault18:43
ochosi:)18:43
elfyblame brainwash :)18:43
* ochosi does18:43
elfyI can't remember tbh18:44
ochosi:/18:44
elfybut the laptop is back now though ;)18:44
ochosiyou know, that means we might have to send you through this hell once more...18:44
ochosibut this time take notes of every testcase with result18:44
ochosicould do a google spreadsheet18:44
ochosior something alike18:44
elfybooting it now18:45
elfylittle one came back earlier than expected18:45
elfyochosi:  unchecked lock-on-suspend *only* in xfpm but left it checked in xfce4-session - result is resumes to desktop 18:47
ochosihumm18:47
ochosithen it might really be a problem of xflock getting called twice18:47
ochosicould you also try the other way round?18:47
ochosiuncheck in session and check in xfpm18:48
elfythat comes back - BUT cursor is invisible18:50
elfyjust going to confirm that18:52
brainwashbug 129714418:53
ubottubug 1297144 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "Invisible cursor after resume from suspend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129714418:53
elfythanks brainwash 18:53
elfyactually  uncheck in session and check in xfpm - black screen18:55
elfynot sure how I got the other issue18:55
brainwashuncheck in power-manager and session18:56
elfyconfirmed that last one twice18:56
elfystraight to desktop18:57
brainwashwith unlock screen?18:58
elfyno - straight to desktop18:58
brainwashso light-locker's lock on suspend is disabled?18:59
elfyno - enabled18:59
brainwashok18:59
brainwashelfy: I did expect that the screen gets locked19:06
elfyso did I 19:08
brainwashso we know now that the black screen is only triggered if you tell xfpm to lock on suspend19:08
elfyI just did session on, lls on, xfpm off - straight to desktop19:08
elfyI expected that to need password19:08
brainwashwe can ignore the session one, because you suspend via lid close19:09
elfyI'm just going to work through them all and write them down for 30 minutes19:09
brainwashmight be not needed19:10
ochosielfy: please do that19:11
brainwashbut got all info, don't we?19:11
ochosibrainwash: tomorrow or in ~1hr you'll have forgotten everything about these testcases again and then poor elfy has to do them once again19:11
ochosiyeah, but we might have to explain it to others as well19:11
ochosibest to just have it in a table19:11
ochosiwith the conditions in columns19:12
ochosiand the testcases in rows19:12
brainwashxfpm inhibits logind and that might be reason why light-locker is not triggered via dbus on suspend19:12
brainwashand xfpm does some mysterious things when it calls xflock4 on suspend19:12
brainwashwhich triggers the black screen19:13
brainwashrunning xfpm with its lock checkbox unchecked works fine19:13
ochosii think it spawns xflock on the cmdline tbh19:14
elfythe long and short of it is - any combination that includes xfpm being enabled and a lid close gets you a black screen19:26
elfyhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmA-9EbkJPYddDVzSk5RdHotTVpRMlc5aGFicDJ2X0E&usp=sharing19:31
elfyochosi brainwash ^^19:31
ochosithanks elfy19:32
ochosithat's exactly what i was thinking of19:32
elfygood :)19:33
elfyit does seem to prove this afternoons pointing at xfpm 19:33
ochosiyeah, the code is really complex for that part19:35
ochosilots of places that interact with the suspend and lid-close events19:35
elfyhow surprising ... 19:36
elfyoh - that was all with unity-greeter by the way - but it's the same with our's 19:37
ochosiyeah, that's good to know19:38
ochosiso lightdm-gtk-greeter is not at fault19:38
elfyyep19:38
ochosibtw, one last test19:38
ochosiif you can19:38
elfyyep19:38
ochosijust an idea, what if you close the lid and then switch to e.g. VT2 and kill xfce4-power-manager19:39
elfywith which permutation of them all19:39
elfynot all of them ... that'd not be one test ;)19:39
ochosihaha19:40
ochosino, just with one of those that reproduces the error19:40
ochosias you correctly said, all permutations seem to point to the same culprit19:40
elfynope - black screen19:44
ochosiok19:45
elfyadded it to the doc19:45
elfyunity-greeter in Xubuntu - starts that horrid aubergine colour and morphs to a nice blue :)19:47
ochosi:)19:47
Logan_unity-greeter still looks somewhat odd with Xubuntu19:48
elfyit does :)19:49
ochosiyeah, doesn't really fit19:49
ochosiLogan_: i take that as a compliment for lightdm-gtk-greeter btw ;)19:49
Logan_not at all :P19:49
Logan_lightdm-gtk-greeter looks like a relic from Windows 9519:49
Logan_but I'll deal19:50
elfyochosi: oh - by the way - it was that /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/60-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf file btw19:50
Logan_http://cl.ly/image/1z0R3p0o1N3S19:51
Logan_is it supposed to look that awful? :P19:51
ochosiLogan_: ouch, noooo!19:51
elfymine doesn;t look like that at all 19:51
ochosiLogan_: i'll post a screener in a sec19:51
ochosielfy: thanks, will remember19:51
elfyochosi: I has a screenie19:53
ochosisure post it19:53
ochosias long as it looks perrty :)19:53
elfywell it's not default ... 19:53
ochosioh :)19:53
elfyhttp://imagebin.org/30467019:53
ochosiah well, it's greybird19:54
ochosiand close enough to default19:54
elfyand that's actually a photo ... 19:54
elfy:p19:54
ochosihaha19:54
elfydid you want another theme - do I have to go wallpaper less again ... :)19:55
ochosino, it's fine19:55
ochosithis is looking good19:55
elfyoh good :)19:55
elfyLogan_: the screenie up a few lines is how it looks for me 19:56
ochosi(and everybody else)19:56
Logan_what on earth is wrong with my setup? :P19:56
Unit193Logan_: What's in your /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf ?19:57
ochosithis is closer to default: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-04-08-215739.php19:57
ochosielfy: and also a photo ^19:58
elfyawesome photo's we have ochosi :D19:58
ochosielfy: s/photo's/photos/19:58
Logan_Unit193: oh, I think I see the problem :P19:58
ochosibrainwash: if you're around, mind to put the cursor-unhide branch of light-locker in your PPA?19:59
Logan_can someone pastebin me their /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf ?19:59
ochosiLogan_: just grab the file from xubuntu-default-settings19:59
Logan_apparently I'm still using the one from when I installed Lubuntu...19:59
elfyhttp://pastebin.com/z1up8Nbf20:00
ochosie.g. sudo apt-get install xubuntu-default-settings --reinstall20:00
elfyand that from defualt20:00
ochosior from the bzr branch of x-d-s20:00
Unit193Logan_: That should be a link to the one in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/20:00
Unit193lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 55 Oct 31 21:01 /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf -> /etc/alternatives/lightdm-gtk-greeter-config-derivative20:00
Unit193(Well, and) lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 53 Oct 31 21:01 /etc/alternatives/lightdm-gtk-greeter-config-derivative -> /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf20:01
Logan_ah20:01
Logan_that's better :)20:02
elfyLogan_: :)20:03
ochosibrainwash: and secondly, could you put xfpm in your PPA (from xubuntu) but with this patch: http://dpaste.com/1774505/20:04
elfythen tell elfy when it's there and he'll do them all again he suspects :(20:06
ochosidarn, elfy is too clever...20:10
ochosi:D20:10
elfy:)20:10
ochosiofc not, just start with one of those that fails20:10
elfyyea :)20:10
ochosiand then complete all the ones that failed20:10
ochosithe rest should still be fine20:10
elfyyea :020:10
elfy:)20:10
ochosiideally you'll get both patches, invisible cursor and blank screen20:11
elfyI only got that once - and then couldn't reproduce it 20:11
elfyinviscursor20:11
ochosioh20:11
ochosithen we'll have to find a different guinea pig :'(20:12
elfyochosi: you will for invisicursor -unless I can reproduce it somehow20:17
elfyI'll suspend it till tomorrow and see if that does it20:20
ochosiwas the suspend-time somehow related to that?20:20
elfy"I wake up the computer after it spending some time in the suspend state, the cursor will be invisible"20:21
ochosihmm,right20:21
elfyI assume this is affecting more than the one person20:21
elfyis it my imagination or have more people washed up on our shores this cycle wanting to get involved?20:23
ochosino, i think that observation is true20:28
ochosialthough we had a few dire cycles, with few ppl showing up20:28
ochosiso an increase was easy to achieve20:28
ochosiLogan_: btw, was my testcase clear enough or were you expecting something else?20:29
Logan_I'm not sure if I'd be able to fix that, tbh20:32
ochosiwhy's that?20:32
Logan_you'd need someone more experienced in packaging from scratch20:32
ochosiright20:32
ochosiknow anyone by chance?20:32
Logan_infinity is good with stuff20:34
Logan_(I hope that was a good enough recommendation)20:34
ochosiright, i'm just worried that ppl whom i don't know and who aren't associated with xubuntu in any way simply won't care enough20:38
ochosiand ppl are busy usually20:38
ochosiNoskcaj: hey, how's xfdesktop's release coming along?20:38
Noskcajbranching the code now20:39
ochosioh cool20:39
Logan_fair enough20:40
Logan_I'll do my best20:40
Logan_want to do a bit of reading first, though20:40
Noskcajbut corsac just uploaded it to debian, so since we've still got a day to spare, i might wait till i can merge20:40
NoskcajLogan_, What's the issue?20:40
ochosiLogan_: sure, this is such a longstanding issue there's no real rush20:40
ochosiNoskcaj: the parole plugin packaging issue20:40
Noskcaj?20:40
ochosiparole's plugins don't work in xubuntu20:41
ochosieven though they do in debian20:41
ochosiif you install the debian package in ubuntu, the plugins work20:41
Logan_lemme compare the file lists20:41
ochosisomehow they seem to end up in the wrong place20:41
Logan_I'll do a debdiff20:41
Logan_ochosi: there's literally no difference in the file lists20:43
ochosiyeah20:43
ochosiit's puzzling20:43
Logan_except for a language thingamajig and the changelog20:43
Logan_can I have an STR? :P20:43
Logan_like, what should I do to reproduce the issue20:43
ochosijust try to open the plugin dialog in parole in your stock xubuntu20:44
Logan_because I've never used parole20:44
Logan_or been on parole20:44
ochosiit'll fail20:44
Logan_but I digress20:44
ochosi:)20:44
Logan_okay it opened20:44
ochosithen install the package from debian and it'll work20:44
Unit193What I came up with, it's something with either dh_configure, or maybe buildflags.20:44
ochosiwell, try to activate one20:44
Logan_plugin failed to load20:44
ochosiUnit193: oh, you're around, would be much better if you took this20:45
Unit193ochosi: No, Logan_ is far better than I am. :)20:45
ochosiLogan_: yup, it doesn't find the plugin20:45
ochosiUnit193: yeah, but you're better than me and you've looked at this before as well20:45
Logan_stop flattering me, Unit20:45
ochosiUnit193: i meant: if you take *my* part, not his ;)20:45
Logan_which is cheering me on?20:46
Unit193Tried different stripping too.20:46
Logan_kinky20:46
ochosi:D20:46
ochosiyou packagers are weird ppl! :D20:46
* elfy shuts his eyes are wanders off 20:47
Logan_let me do some experimentation20:47
* elfy shuts his eyes and wanders off again20:48
Logan_okay, that one wasn't on purpose, I swear! :P20:49
Unit193Mhmm...20:50
elfy:)20:50
Unit193I even started doing a diff of the build logs, but as one was 32bit and the other was 64, I got busy with other things and never looked.20:51
Logan_un momento20:52
Logan_I have an unstable and a trusty chroot, so I'll build the same package in both20:53
Logan_and I'll compare the logs20:53
ochosithanks for the effort Logan_ 21:04
ochosibbiab21:04
Logan_ochosi: I'm in over my head, haha21:12
Unit193Yey!  Not just me. :)21:14
* elfy too - so much I've no idea what you're talking about ;)21:14
NoskcajLogan_, Did you end up getting a build log diff?21:28
Logan_it wasn't awfully helpful21:28
Logan_one moment21:29
Unit193Well, one bad way to check it, use a hook to grab the debhelper from Debian. :P21:30
Logan_it would be in one of the helpers21:31
Logan_like dh-shlibs or whatever21:32
Logan_no, not that21:32
Unit193Logan_: Did you export verbose when you built?21:37
Logan_that would probably be helpful21:38
Unit193Trying something, in a min.21:38
Logan_Noskcaj, ochosi, Unit193: http://www.diffchecker.com/q7xn77oq21:42
Logan_same package (from Debian), Trusty on the left, Experimental on the right 21:42
brainwashochosi: updated the ppa22:18
brainwashochosi: your system is not affected by this problem at all?22:19
ochosibrainwash: thanks22:27
ochosiwell it is, but only by the lid-close bug22:28
ochosiand i didn't notice for a long time because it seemingly doesn't affect multihead-setups22:28
ochosireally specific, that bug.22:28
brainwashoh, hopefully we'll get it fixed in time22:29
ochosiyup would be good22:29
ochosithe invisible cursor one i've never encountered22:30
ochosiso the patch is guesswork22:30
ochosior a workaround22:31
ochosibrainwash: something is odd with that version you put up22:36
ochosinothing much happens on the lid event anymore22:36
brainwashhmpf22:39
JustanickAre you talking about the black screen after login after a standby session?22:39
brainwashochosi: kill it and restart it from terminal "xfce4-power-manager --debug"22:39
brainwashJustanick: yes22:40
ochosibrainwash: it's odd, it still locks on lid close if i set it to do that, but suspend doesn't work anymore. maybe missed a compile flag?22:40
JustanickAlso affect. If you need any information.22:40
brainwashochosi: that's strange22:45
brainwashit's just a rebuild + patch22:45
ochosibrainwash: i understand, not sure what to say22:46
ochosidoes it work for you?22:46
ochosito some extent, this version also "fixes" the bug :p22:46
brainwashmy desktop pc lacks a lid to close :)22:46
* Unit193 trying something else.22:47
brainwashochosi: does the official ubuntu version work properly?22:47
ochosiyup22:47
ochosiUnit193: still? that was a loooong minute22:47
Unit193ochosi: Heeey, I was doing other stuff too. :P22:48
ochosiUnit193: suuuuure :)22:48
Unit193Reviewing logs, fixing VM to test it, watch an episode of something, etc, etc. :P22:49
Unit193Also, I should stop bundleing "fixes" together.22:51
Unit193-e22:51
brainwashochosi: I can redo it and then re-upload22:54
ochosibrainwash: thanks, that'd be nice22:55
brainwashcan you install the official one to verify that it works?22:55
ochosiwell that's what i had before i used your version and that worked22:57
ochosii mean suspend on lid-close22:57
Unit193Crap, what fixed it?23:04
ochosiwhat fixed what?23:07
Unit193parole.23:11
ochosiUnit193: oh, so you performed a lot of changes in the packaging and now it just works? :p23:15
brainwashochosi: the diff looks interesting23:15
brainwashhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/172285540/xfce4-power-manager_1.2.0-3ubuntu4test1_1.2.0-3ubuntu4test2.diff.gz23:15
brainwashbasically building the same thing23:15
* ochosi shrugs23:16
Unit193ochosi: ...Only a few. :P23:16
brainwashdoes it suspend if you kill xfpm?23:16
Unit193I'll have a package for you in a sec, got to get pizza and coffee.23:17
ochosisry guys, gotta hit the sack now, have a big day tomorrow23:17
brainwashgood night23:18
Unit193But, but, but. :(23:18
ochosiUnit193: but you need your coffee and pizza and i need my sleep...23:18
JustanickNight23:19
Unit193Logan_, ochosi: https://unit193.net/parole_0.6.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb <--- Try that.23:29
Unit193https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1286046 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1168810 are both considered to be https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990423:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1286046 in parole (Ubuntu) "parole crashed with SIGSEGV in notify_provider_finalize()" [Medium,Triaged]23:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1168810 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole does not show tray icon on notification area" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:38
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 9904 in General "Notification icon plugin not working" [Normal,Needinfo]23:38

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