[00:03] <diddledan> http://store.steampowered.com/app/246900/
[00:19] <shauno> I think I'm just gonna give up and go to sleep.  strings in C should be banned.
[00:28] <ali1234> whaaaaat
[00:30] <ali1234> depends on your definition of "round it" i guess
[01:59] <diddledan> ali1234: I would guess by the context he meant massage to the _nearest_ integer
[02:00] <diddledan> rather than floor or ceil
[03:27] <mapps> whos still up then eh
[03:33]  * diddledan hides
[04:20] <mapps> :) been doing much?
[04:21] <diddledan> this evening I been looking at posix implementations for windows
[04:21] <diddledan> they all suck
[04:21] <diddledan> (TM)
[04:26] <mapps> heh
[04:27] <diddledan> with only 8GB of RAM running a VM can get painful
[04:29] <mapps> :D
[04:31] <mapps> argh
[04:31] <mapps> dpkg: error processing zentyal-core (--purge):
[04:31] <mapps>  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[04:31] <mapps> Removing zentyal-common ...
[04:31] <mapps> Purging configuration files for zentyal-common ...
[04:31] <mapps> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:31] <mapps>  zentyal-core
[04:31] <mapps> again
[04:33] <MartijnVdS> mapps: check /var/lib/dpkg/info/zentyal-core.postrm
[04:33] <MartijnVdS> mapps: find the line it's erroring on
[04:34] <mapps> it hink its because ive half removed it
[04:34] <mapps> what a mess
[04:34] <MartijnVdS> it should be in the "dpkg" log a few lines above what you pasted
[04:34] <MartijnVdS> mapps: ^
[04:34] <mapps> oke:D lets see
[04:34] <mapps> thanks
[04:35] <diddledan> morning, MartijnVdS
[04:36] <MartijnVdS> morning
[04:38] <mapps> im not sure what im looking for :(
[04:38] <mapps> ebox       648  0.0  0.2   9240  2568 ?        Ss   05:31   0:00 uwsgi --ignore-sigpipe --buffer-size 10240 --plugins 0:psgi --uid ebox --gid ebox --umask 000 -s /run/zentyal-webadmin/webadmin.sock --psgi /usr/share/zentyal/psgi/zentyal.psgi
[04:38] <mapps> pesky things still running, which is why apache isnt working on non https
[04:51] <mapps> =[
[05:29] <diddledan> does anyone use microsoft's onedrive/office thingy?
[05:29] <diddledan> I'm trying to get it to edit a newly created document and it's just failing outright
[05:29] <diddledan> in chrome it says "a timeout occurred"
[05:30] <diddledan> and in a windows vm running IE11 it says "this page cannot be displayed"
[05:40] <MooDoo> moaning all
[05:40] <diddledan> allo
[05:42] <miseria> "los discursos politicos y su demagogia, para torturar un pueblo, son decorados con la frase: *derechos humanos*" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
[05:42] <diddledan> I was about to say the exact same thing
[05:42] <MooDoo> what lol
[05:43] <MooDoo> diddledan: ah it's about human rights
[05:44] <diddledan> I couldn't be assed to gtranslate it
[05:44] <MooDoo> i shouldn't have been really, but pah i'm a sucker
[05:45] <diddledan> now then. why won't office365 work for me?
[05:46] <MooDoo> you broke it?
[05:47] <diddledan> I only wanted to see how it behaved with my file, but it won't even load on a blank document
[05:47] <diddledan> https://office.live.com/start/excel.aspx fails, as does going via onedrive.live.com and clicking on an xlsx file
[05:48] <MooDoo> I'm not at home or i'd try it myself
[05:48] <diddledan> oh wait. it's suddenly working now
[05:49] <diddledan> or not
[05:49] <diddledan> the start/excel.aspx actually got further by displaying a splash but clicking through to a "new workbook" fails again
[05:51] <diddledan> it's not limited to one system either
[05:51] <diddledan> both a windows vm and my mac are failing
[06:13] <jussi> morning all
[06:15] <diddledan> ello jussi
[06:15] <jussi> hi diddledan
[06:17] <MooDoo> hello jussi
[06:52]  * IoTDayCharredWin gives a shout out to www.mnubo.com as it be the IoTday - must be worth a tweet, huh .
[06:53] <IoTDayCharredWin> leaves.
[06:53] <MooDoo> wow another?
[06:53] <jussi> oh hiya MooDoo :D
[06:53] <MooDoo> yeah yeah jussi didn't see me eh¬
[06:54] <jussi> MooDoo: I was busy updating
[06:55] <jussi> hrm, it is far too easy to accidentaly write busty instead of busy...
[06:55] <MooDoo> oh done that a lot of times.
[06:55] <diddledan> I'm often accused of being too busty
[06:55] <MooDoo> especially to a female boss, I know your busty but can you.....
[06:55] <jussi> heh
[06:56] <jussi> thats an embarassing one...
[06:56] <MooDoo> definately
[06:59] <diddledan> https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1601365_10152364079174747_6567658946863416894_n.jpg
[06:59] <diddledan> funny cat is funny
[07:11] <smittix> Morning all
[07:11]  * smittix yawns
[07:11] <MooDoo> morning
[07:11] <smittix> How goes MooDoo?
[07:12] <bashrc> morning
[07:12] <MooDoo> smittix: yeah fine thanks :D
[07:12] <smittix> Good good. Morning bashrc
[07:12] <smittix> You still using 14.04 MooDoo ?
[07:13] <MooDoo> smittix: dual boot, win 8.1.1 and ubuntu
[07:14] <smittix> Tried Elementary OS yesterday.
[07:14] <smittix> Very pretty heh
[07:14] <MooDoo> yeah I saw the video
[07:15] <MooDoo> new version is based on 14.04 LTS
[07:15] <smittix> Just doesn't feel as stable though
[07:15] <smittix> Yeah ISIS looks hot.
[07:19] <diplo> Morning all
[07:26] <knightwise> morning everyone
[07:27] <knightwise> smittix: what version of elementary ? the one based on 1204 ?
[07:27] <knightwise> I have reinstalled my wifes imac with elementary
[07:28] <MooDoo> knightwise: that's the only one that's available isn't it?  isis isn't released yet from what the video said
[07:31] <knightwise> yep ,
[07:31] <knightwise> but its a cool distro
[07:31] <knightwise> nice mix between speed and looks
[07:31] <knightwise> simple and done right.
[07:31]  * knightwise thinks KDE should take a page from their book
[07:40] <diplo> I want to send emails via a particular mail server so need to specify it, my company currently use a program called "email" on the cli which allows that
[07:40] <diplo> Anyone recommend another ?
[07:40] <diplo> mail doesn't offer that option as far as I can tell
[07:45] <jussi> knightwise: elementary does some strange things that I would hat for KDE to do
[07:45] <jussi> like binary configs for example...
[07:45] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:01] <dwatkins> allo allo
[08:03] <brobostigon> morning dwatkins
[08:06] <BigRedS__> diplo: ssmtp? It basically replaces sendmail with something that punts everything at a smarthost
[08:11] <diplo> BigRedS__: You read my mind, installed about 10 mins ago
[08:11] <diplo> Just configuring nwo
[08:11] <diplo> now*
[08:11] <diplo> ta
[08:13] <brobostigon> has anyone seen the following error, when tyring to install a new package. please.
[08:13] <brobostigon> bin/sh: 1: /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs: not found
[08:13] <brobostigon> E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs apt returned an error code (127)
[08:13] <brobostigon> E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs apt
[08:13] <brobostigon> Failed to perform requested operation on package.  Trying to recover:
[08:14] <brobostigon> its blocking apt-get upgrade also.
[08:15] <BigRedS__> at the risk of suggesting the obvious, can you apt-get install apt-listbugs?
[08:17] <brobostigon> apt-listbugs is already the newest version.
[08:17] <brobostigon> :)
[08:18] <BigRedS__> oh
[08:21] <brobostigon> and it is there. ls /usr/sbin/apt*
[08:21] <brobostigon> /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs
[08:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Cherish An Antique Day! :-D
[08:38]  * DJones cherishes himself
[08:38]  * brobostigon joins in.
[08:39]  * jussi polishes DJones
[08:39] <DJones> ooh shiny
[08:39] <dogmatic69> \o
[08:39] <DJones> I must be an iProduct :)
[08:39] <dogmatic69> I got a new toy http://www.adafruit.com/products/609
[08:44] <awilkins> Network question : Having problems with H2 (Java) databases because they set themselves up to listen on 127.0.1.1
[08:45] <awilkins> e.g. adwi2@tachikoma:~/h2/bin$ java -cp h2-1.3.176.jar org.h2.tools.Server
[08:45] <awilkins> TCP server running at tcp://127.0.1.1:9092 (only local connections)
[08:45] <awilkins> PG server running at pg://127.0.1.1:5435 (only local connections)
[08:45] <awilkins> Web Console server running at http://127.0.1.1:8082 (only local connections)
[08:45] <bashrc> what is neTV?
[08:45] <awilkins> But they don't listen to 127.0.1.1 but they will accept connections on 127.0.0.1
[08:46] <awilkins> This sucks because apps that believe they are on 127.0.1.1 then fail to work
[08:46] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: ip addr show dev lo
[08:46] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: it should have:
[08:46] <MartijnVdS>     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
[08:47] <awilkins> MartijnVdS, Yup, do have that - inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
[08:48] <awilkins> Ok, so the browser works if I fiddle with my proxy settings
[08:48] <awilkins> (ie - turn off my PAC script)
[08:49]  * awilkins adds an exception for his own hostname
[08:49] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: check the hostname for 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts
[08:49] <awilkins> Ok, that doesn't work
[08:49] <awilkins> It's the right hostname
[08:50] <awilkins> I've seen the Debian bug discussing this...
[08:51] <awilkins> Main problem it's causing me is Jubula in Eclipse is refusing to connect to an embedded H2 database
[08:51] <awilkins> Getting this in the stack dump : org.h2.jdbc.JdbcSQLException: Exception opening port H2 TCP Server (tcp://127.0.1.1:42457) (port may be in use), cause: timeout [90061-117]
[08:51] <popey> Morning.
[08:52] <awilkins> netstat sayeth : org.h2.jdbc.JdbcSQLException: Exception opening port H2 TCP Server (tcp://127.0.1.1:42457) (port may be in use), cause: timeout [90061-117]
[08:52] <awilkins> Oops
[08:52] <awilkins> tcp6       0      0 [::]:42457              [::]:*                  LISTEN
[08:53]  * awilkins adds exception for 127.0.1.1 to Eclipse proxy settings
[08:54] <awilkins> GRAARGH
[08:55]  * awilkins turns off proxy in Eclipse
[08:55] <awilkins> AT LAST
[08:56] <awilkins> Ok, problem solved
[08:56] <selinuxium> Morning ol
[08:56] <selinuxium> o/
[08:56] <awilkins> Well, changed
[08:56] <awilkins> New problem is how to keep Eclipse connected to update sites and things through proxy...
[08:56] <MartijnVdS> this kills the proxy
[09:05] <jussi> today's music :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdiCJUysIT0
[09:13]  * diddledan hunkers down for gentoo patch-hell
[09:14] <awilkins> For Heartbleed bug?
[09:14] <diddledan> yup
[09:16] <andrewebdev> question.
[09:16] <bigcalm> response
[09:16] <awilkins> Ok, so turning off proxy totally in Eclipse makes it work, but configuring it properly doesn't. I hate proxies.
[09:17] <awilkins> quip!
[09:17] <andrewebdev> on Ubuntu server, can I just do a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, to fix heartbleed?
[09:17] <awilkins> andrewebdev, Yes
[09:17] <diddledan> retort
[09:17] <andrewebdev> once fix was applied?
[09:17] <andrewebdev> cool thx
[09:17] <andrewebdev> have the patch been pushed to the repos yet?
[09:17] <awilkins> Heartbleed fix is already available in all current lsb-releases
[09:18] <diddledan> andrewebdev: you should restart anything that uses ssl
[09:18] <awilkins> Has been since yesterday
[09:18] <andrewebdev> cool tyvm :)
[09:18] <diddledan> I saw a nice one-liner to figure out which apps were using the old version but I've since lost it
[09:18] <diddledan> something to do with /proc/*/map IIRC
[09:21] <MartijnVdS> or just reboot
[09:26] <diddledan> heh mission critical stuff can't be down for the length of a reboob
[09:28] <jussi> this is pretty cool... http://www.ponomusic.com/
[09:28] <bashrc> got the ubuntu one shutdown email.  I did use ubuntu one to some extent, but once I started running my own server then I no longer needed it.
[09:32] <awilkins> Ubuntu One's major problem was the Windows client..
[09:32] <awilkins> ..ironic
[09:32] <awilkins> Well, and the Linux client
[09:33] <jussi> nope. its major issue was no one cared...
[09:33] <awilkins> Well, that too
[09:33] <awilkins> No-one cared because the Windows client sucked hard though
[09:34] <bashrc> I never even tried to use it on windows
[09:34] <awilkins> When Dropbox generally works, why would you want to install something that doesn't work well, and has a name tied up with an OS that you are not using?
[09:34] <jussi> Here is neil young talking about that Pono device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa2rpJtUItE
[09:34] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: the name Canonical One was taken
[09:35] <awilkins> Now Dropbox has the name-recognition and you have the upstarts trying to get in on their turf by offering storage sizes an order of magnitude larger (and presumably, they also have clients that work well)
[09:36] <awilkins> Dropbox could improve. The main thing that would make it better for me would be better proxy support
[09:37] <awilkins> AFAICR the Ubuntu One client (at the time I tried it) didn't even support the system proxy settings on Ubuntu, and didn't have any proxy settings you could access on either platform.
[09:38] <awilkins> Dropbox doesn't support PAC scripts, which is gripe one, and NTLMv2 auth, which is gripe 2, but at least you can manually configure it
[09:38] <awilkins> Thanks for reminding me, actually, will have to migrate Mom to Dropbox.
[09:47] <Myrtti> I use, when I need to use something to sync stuff with, either rsync to my own server, or Spideroak
[09:57] <BigRedS__> Anyone know if dig is installed on OSX Mavericks by default?
[09:58] <diddledan> BigRedS__: yes
[09:58] <BigRedS__> whoop! ta
[10:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:09] <BigRedS__> Good Morning!
[11:01] <codecowboy> hi all. is there a one liner to list all users with ftp access?
[11:02] <directhex> codecowboy, no, because it depends on your ftp server configuration
[11:04] <codecowboy> directhex cool thanks. ps aux shows me sftp-server is running. i guess that means anyone with ssh can ftp in?
[11:05] <directhex> SFTP isn't the same thing as FTP. but i suspect anyone with SSH access can SFTP in in your configuration
[11:24] <nai> 123
[11:29] <jussi> breaking the law, breaking the law.... you dont know what its like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:31] <jussi> oh come on... you arent ALL  asleep ?
[11:33] <MartijnVdS> 😴
[11:33] <jussi> hi MartijnVdS :)
[11:36] <BigRedS_> jussi: Have you been on the E-numbers?
[11:36] <jussi> BigRedS_: maybe...
[11:36] <jussi> :D
[11:36] <diddledan> which law?
[11:37] <jussi> BigRedS_: I dunno what is in this Ramen... its only got chinese writing...
[11:37] <diddledan> lol
[11:37] <jussi> diddledan: THE law
[11:37] <MartijnVdS> of the land?
[11:37] <jussi> MartijnVdS: I dunno. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU
[11:38] <MartijnVdS> jussi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsS0cvTxU-8 ?
[11:39] <jussi> :D
[11:39] <BigRedS_> Well, I'm still hearing Limp Bizkit for the "you don't know what it's like" bit... :/
[11:40] <BigRedS_> And I think that' the wrong lyric for the song anyway
[11:40] <jussi> hehe
[11:47] <popey> hey, any github experts.. ?
[11:47] <popey> https://github.com/asyncjs/asyncjs.github.com/wiki/Adding-an-event
[11:47] <popey> that first git clone line fails for me...
[11:48] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7225855/
[11:48] <diddledan> popey: use https://github.com/asyncjs/asyncjs.github.com.git instead of the git@github bit
[11:49] <diddledan> git clone https://github.com/asyncjs/asyncjs.github.com.git
[11:49] <diddledan> that
[11:49] <popey> huh, ok
[11:49] <diddledan> oh maybe I'm wrong, but that will work - USERNAME needs to be changed in the line they give
[11:50] <diddledan> aah you want to edit?
[11:50] <diddledan> if you want to edit your own copy then you'll need to give github an ssh key that you'll use
[11:51] <popey> i want to edit
[11:51] <popey> and they have my ssh key
[11:51] <diddledan> have you clicked the "fork" button on the repo you want to fork?
[11:52] <diddledan> I don't see the asyncjs.github.com repo in your personal list
[11:52] <diddledan> go here: https://github.com/asyncjs/asyncjs.github.com and click the "fork" button top-right
[11:53] <diddledan> that'll create a copy that you can then clone and edit
[11:53] <popey> ta
[11:54] <diddledan> once github has forked it you should be able to use the line you previously failed on
[11:54] <popey> thanks
[11:55] <diddledan> no probs :-)
[12:02] <diddledan> grr @ heartbleed
[12:02] <diddledan> I've spent all morning so far and only managed to update 6 machines
[12:03] <diddledan> only another 28 to go
[12:03] <diddledan> >.<
[12:04] <MooDoo> ouch
[12:04] <MooDoo> it's a pain a big pain
[12:05] <MooDoo> luckily unless you have ssl's it's an easy fix.
[12:06] <jussi> diddledan: my comiserations. Im glad I do not have your job :D
[12:08] <diddledan> 4 more are compiling away now
[12:08] <diddledan> effing gentoo
[12:09] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: and then there's the certificate replacement
[12:10] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: well, KEY replacement
[12:12] <jussi> diddledan: own fault.. (if you were the one who chose gentoo)
[12:12] <MooDoo> gentoo ouch
[12:13] <diddledan> nope, gentoo was decided upon before I got here
[12:14] <popey> \o/ pull request created
[12:14] <popey> https://github.com/asyncjs/asyncjs.github.com/pull/42
[12:14] <popey> 42 is the best pull request number
[12:15] <jussi> naice....
[12:15] <jussi> :S
[12:15] <jussi> :DS
[12:15] <jussi> far out
[12:15] <jussi> how hard can it be to write: :D
[14:15] <mapps> hm hm hm now what to do about zentyal
[14:18] <shauno> nuke it from orbit
[14:18] <MooDoo> it's the only way to be sure
[14:20] <mapps> i tried
[14:20] <mapps> :<
[14:24] <mapps> cant get rid of it totally
[14:24] <mapps> really becoming a pain
[14:25] <shauno> how did you install it ?
[14:33] <mapps> i cant remember tbh i thought i ust added their repo and used apt-get zentyal
[14:33] <mapps> but ive remoed it that way and it fails..and theres stll something running..clogging up port 8080
[14:35] <SirMarky> Hello - anyone here who can answer a quick Nvidia question for me and overclocking with 13.10?
[14:40] <mapps> ask away
[14:44] <SirMarky> I've installed the latest driver and set the nvidia tool to overclocking mode, but I'm uncertain which values will be stable.  I need a tool to show me output on graphics as I migrate up the stages.  With the ASUS Windows software I just move up the slider until it stops responding.  That doesn't seem to work as well here
[14:44] <SirMarky> I want to push the card to the highest for x-plane.
[14:50] <mapps> oh, no idea sorry hopefuly someone else does
[14:50]  * mapps is a n00b
[14:50] <mapps> :D
[19:04] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[19:05] <davmor2> bigcalm: what timezone you in ;)
[19:06] <bashrc> morning bigcalm
[19:09] <popey> moin
[19:12] <brobostigon> nos da
[19:13] <brobostigon> noswaith dda, :)
[19:14] <davmor2> brobostigon: you're not allowed to go the internet says so, so less of you good night :P
[19:15] <brobostigon> i misremebered my welsh, not bed time yet.
[19:20] <davmor2> popey: my adb permissions fix works but so far I've had no joy moving file via mtp/file path
[19:22] <popey> fun
[19:48] <davmor2> popey: bash insists that the path doesn't exist which doesn't help
[21:05] <dogmatic69_> everyone seen this... http://heartbleed.com/
[21:08] <ali1234> yes, about a million billion times :/
[21:08] <dogmatic69_> hehe
[21:08] <dogmatic69_> look at it again
[21:13] <diddledan> nothing new
[21:21] <daftykins> dogmatic69_: yeah what are you getting at?
[21:29] <dogmatic69_> daftykins: ?
[21:29] <daftykins> 'look at it again' ?
[21:30] <daftykins> what were you pointing out
[21:30] <dogmatic69_> nothing specific
[21:30] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[21:30] <dogmatic69_> just like billion times was not enough :P
[21:37] <shauno> that's pretty evil
[22:21] <diddledan> the inevitable heartbleed-related password reset requests are starting to arrive
[22:25] <shauno> you know this is all your fault, right?
[22:26] <shauno> if you hadn't gone upgrading those 4yo boxes, you wouldn't have been exposed :)
[22:31] <daftykins> XD
[22:33] <shauno> (file this one under "things not to mention when you're begging them to drop gentoo")
[22:36] <shauno> lxde doesn't fit on this touchscreen very well :/
[22:50] <diddledan> I'll leave this here and go to bed
[22:50] <diddledan> https://www.facebook.com/officialstargatesg1/app_412503695533391
[22:51] <daftykins> lmao
[22:51] <daftykins> for the WHOLE series!?
[22:51] <diddledan> they're up to ep15
[22:52] <daftykins> ever hear of the series Twin Peaks?
[22:52] <diddledan> I only know the name
[22:53] <daftykins> ah well, amusingly fans are continuing it on twitter XD
[22:53] <daftykins> www.avclub.com/article/laura-palmer-dead-twin-peaks-alive-again-twitter-202978
[22:53] <daftykins> quite an amusing idea
[23:16] <shauno> I still haven't watched any of the "star trek continues" stuff
[23:17] <daftykins> really? so anything beyond the film?
[23:18] <shauno> http://www.startrekcontinues.com
[23:18] <daftykins> oh my bad i read stargate instead of star trek ¬_¬
[23:19] <shauno> oh, stargate I've only seen the film
[23:19] <daftykins> !
[23:19] <shauno> well, the odd episode when I'm suffering from 200 channels of tripe, but they never grabbed me
[23:22] <daftykins> it's one of the classic style of series where there's lots of filler and only some over-arcing plot
[23:22] <daftykins> watching with a guide that spells those out might be easier
[23:23] <ali1234> sg1 is like x-files, in that the filler episodes are the best ones
[23:24] <daftykins> not so sure about that, heh
[23:25] <ali1234> and also they both started to suck after like 6 seasons
[23:31] <daftykins> yeah X Files went funny when Mulder left