/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/04/09/#ubuntu-us-mi.txt

cmaloneyGlad you could watch it00:00
havenstanceme too, learned alot, not that I'd ever know how to use any of it but it was good information just the same00:01
tony-smlrCool stuf,  this is the link he was talking about when they opensource the datacenters: http://www.opencompute.org/00:03
cmaloneyheh00:06
tony-smlrThis is other open source projects they work on https://code.facebook.com/projects/00:07
HavenstanceI have never in my life seen such a tempermental computer01:17
Havenstancetried to add a PCI Graphics Card, it fought me for a good half hour on booting afterwards. come to find out someone didn't put enough screws in this machine. So the PCI Card wasn't seating into the slot properly. Stuck up about the width of a piece of hair...01:18
greg-gjrwren: sad I missed! was it recorded?02:01
* greg-g goes02:01
cmaloneygreg-g: Both Gib and waldo323 recorded it.03:26
cmaloneyGood morning10:45
cmaloneyApparently UPS is having "conditions [that] have caused the delivery date and time to change"10:56
cmaloneyGot an email that said Thursday, now Today.10:57
cmaloneyWas scheduled for today10:57
cmaloneyWonder if one of those conditions was Amazon getting up in their business.10:57
rick_h_morning ugh11:33
cmaloneyrick_h_: We missed you at MUG last night11:42
rick_h_yea, well with a week of travel away too much to do11:43
cmaloneyFigured as much11:43
rick_h_camper is in the driveway, designer giving us sticker shock on porch, and helping wife prep the house11:43
cmaloneySticker shock. That's always fun.11:43
rick_h_heh, well I was up at one area, then she brought me down to a lower number 'estimate' and I got all happy, then went over my original idea of a number yesterday11:44
rick_h_but she's just so rough on it, so now we get a real estimate and we'll see11:44
rick_h_wheeeeee11:45
cmaloneyNice.11:50
cmaloneyhoping for some good news your way.11:50
cmaloneyyay resetting passwords on sites!11:50
mrgoodcatmorning party people12:34
mrgoodcathas everyone patched their openssl?12:34
rick_h_why? did something happen?12:38
rick_h_:P12:38
mrgoodcatlol12:39
mrgoodcati just found one more system that has an old version of ssl12:39
mrgoodcatbut it turns out it's too old to be vulnerable to heartbleed12:39
mrgoodcat:S12:39
Havenstance2mrgoodcat, the openssl is part of zentyal isn't it?12:52
mrgoodcatopenssl isn't a part of zentyal per-se12:52
mrgoodcatwhy do you ask?12:52
mrgoodcatif you have automatic updates set up you should be fine12:52
Havenstance2just curious if i need to patch it for heartbleed :)12:52
* Havenstance2 remotes home & checks it out 12:52
Havenstance2lol12:52
mrgoodcatapt-get update && apt-get upgrade should be fine12:52
mrgoodcatrun the command `openssl version` on your server12:53
Havenstance2I should have the new server here today too, so if I put zentyal on that should I do an apt-get updgrade?12:53
mrgoodcatanything older than 1.0.1 is fine12:54
mrgoodcatand anything newer than 1.0.1g is fine12:54
Havenstance21.0.1e12:54
mrgoodcatyou're vulnerable12:54
Havenstance2damn12:54
mrgoodcatunrelated note.... cough.... what's your ip?12:54
Havenstance2not sure lol12:55
mrgoodcatit was a joke man12:55
Havenstance2:)12:55
mrgoodcatjust update and you should be fine12:55
Havenstance2I know12:55
Havenstance2I have a VPN Tunnel I use for it12:55
mrgoodcatwell your VPN encryption isn't doing you any good until you update12:55
mrgoodcatand you have to restart any services using it12:56
Havenstance2upgrading it now :)12:56
mrgoodcatprobably better to just reboot the machine12:56
Havenstance2sudo reboot the entire box?12:56
Havenstance2that's what I was thinking12:56
mrgoodcatthat's what i did12:56
Havenstance2now if i install a new server today is it going to have the heartbleed vulnerability?12:56
mrgoodcatthe company can afford 16 seconds of downtime to patch something like heartbleed12:56
mrgoodcatprobably not12:56
Havenstance2ok12:56
Havenstance2i'll double check to be safe of course12:56
mrgoodcatwell actually that's not accurate12:57
Havenstance2it would depend if it pulled packages from the net right?12:57
mrgoodcatif you install ubuntu from disc then yes you are vulnerable12:57
mrgoodcatbut if you pull from the net then it will update automagically12:58
mrgoodcat14.04 currently has 1.0.1f on disc12:58
Havenstance2i'll still opt to run the openssl version just to be safe12:58
mrgoodcat13.10 is vuln12:59
jrwrenrick_h_: designer for what?12:59
jrwrenHavenstance2: imap ssl likely needs the heartbleed patch13:00
rick_h_jrwren: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gozj35lmsfv5k8m/2014-04-09%2008.09.55.jpg13:00
rick_h_jrwren: well, rotate that around13:00
jrwrena barn?13:00
jrwrenor really just RV storage?13:00
rick_h_lol13:00
mrgoodcat10.04 and older are unaffected tho13:00
rick_h_no, a screned back porch13:01
rick_h_jrwren: ^13:01
jrwrenoh. cool.13:01
* rick_h_ is mad he can't rotate that photo in dropbox13:03
mrgoodcatdownload -> rotate -> upload13:04
rick_h_mrgoodcat: that...sounds like work13:04
mrgoodcattada13:04
* mrgoodcat dances13:04
brouschfuckit. I'm switching back to telnet13:05
Havenstance2jrwren, how do i patch that?13:07
jrwrenHavenstance2: update libssl1.0.0 package and restart services13:08
Havenstance2jrwren, will do thank you :013:08
Havenstance2:)13:08
mrgoodcattrusty RC tomorrow ;)13:15
mrgoodcater :)13:15
Havenstance2so as a recap mrgoodcat openssl 0.9.8e should be secure against heartbleed?13:24
mrgoodcatagainst heartbleed yes13:24
mrgoodcatopenssl heartbeat support wasn't included until the 1.0.1 series13:24
Havenstance2k, this is on the current clearos network controller here which will be ultimately giving way to zentyal by this time Friday13:24
Havenstance2so I won't worry about it then :)13:25
brouschrick_h_: How many gsoc slots did you get?13:29
rick_h_brousch: got 213:30
brouschnice!13:30
rick_h_yea, we we're in business13:30
mrgoodcatgood for you13:30
mrgoodcatany idea which students you got?13:30
brouschpsf got 52 slots, they were expecting 4013:30
mrgoodcatpsf..... python something foundation?13:31
mrgoodcatsoftware?....13:31
brouschyes13:33
brouschThe PSF is acting as a middle man for a bunch of Python GSoC projects13:34
mrgoodcatjust found the motherlode13:45
mrgoodcathttps://github.com/vhf/free-programming-books13:45
cmaloneyI really hate mysql's 'username'@'localhost' user format13:54
mrgoodcatwhy?13:54
cmaloneyit's stupid? :)13:55
mrgoodcatcan't say it's ever bothered me13:55
mrgoodcatmaybe i'm just used to it13:55
cmaloneyI don't like having to create two users13:55
mrgoodcatone for localhost one for remote connections?13:55
cmaloneyyes13:55
cmaloneyIt's a use-case that I've rarely seen be useful13:56
cmaloney(the host-limited connection limited by the database)13:56
mrgoodcatyea i got that13:56
mrgoodcatthere isn't a way to make one user available to all hosts?13:56
mrgoodcattry 0.0.0.013:56
cmaloneyThere's %, but I believe Mysql treats that differently than localhost13:57
mrgoodcatyup13:57
mrgoodcatthat's remote13:57
cmaloneywhich is stupid.13:57
mrgoodcatit's supposed to be a 'security' feature i think13:58
cmaloneyUnderstood. I think it misses the mark13:59
mrgoodcatyou could run mysql on a non-standard port then ssh tunnel to localhost so all remote connections show up as local...13:59
mrgoodcatthat would be damn hacky tho13:59
cmaloneyOr I could put up a firewall rule to do what MySQL is ill-equipped to handle.14:00
cmaloney;)14:00
cmaloneyanywho, ranting14:00
cmaloneyI'd rather be PostgreSQL.14:00
mrgoodcati'd rather be someone using PostgreSQL14:01
mrgoodcatbeing a database seems like a lot of work14:01
cmaloneymrgoodcat: I think someone out there is wrong on the internet. better go investigate.14:01
cmaloney;)14:01
mrgoodcatapparently % works on localhost as well as remote14:03
mrgoodcatif you have 2 users it will default to the @localhost user if you connect from local14:03
mrgoodcatbut it isn't specifically required14:03
mrgoodcaton some systems there is a field in mysql.users where user is blank but host is localhost14:05
mrgoodcatand this makes it so % can only connect from remote14:05
mrgoodcatdrop user ''@'localhost';14:06
mrgoodcatflush priveleges;14:06
mrgoodcatunless you WANT the anonymous user14:06
cmaloneyHmm.14:39
cmaloneyWill have to lok into this further14:39
cmaloneybut for now I have what I need.14:39
cmaloneyThanks!14:39
mrgoodcatnp14:47
mrgoodcati haven't tested it but the internet assures me it doesn't ever lie14:48
cmaloneyheh15:00
nullspacesup all17:57
mrgoodcathi18:09
cmaloneyHowdy nullspace18:10
mrgoodcatchc @ 8 tonight?18:11
mrgoodcatfor some reason my phone says 9pm18:11
cmaloneyYeah, it's tonight18:33
cmaloneyDST? :)18:33
mrgoodcatbut 8:00 right?18:42
mrgoodcati think it's been wrong in my phone since the beginning18:43
Havenstance2YAWN :(18:48
Havenstance2winautomation is the antichrist18:49
mrgoodcatwin* is the antichrist18:50
Havenstance2Microsoft = Antichrist18:55
Havenstance2:)18:55
jrwrenhardly.18:58
jrwrengoogle or apple are far more scary18:58
rick_h_crap did dropbox just take over techcrunch?19:30
jrwrenthey had some big announce today. I don't know what it was.19:32
rick_h_had a few of them it looks like19:32
mrgoodcatrick_h_: where did you see that?19:44
rick_h_mrgoodcat: techcrunch, they released a mail client, a photo app, and some business apps19:45
rick_h_trying out their mail client on the phone atm19:45
rick_h_kind of cool19:45
brouschdropbox mail client?19:45
mrgoodcatwhat makes you think they took over techcrunch from that?19:45
mrgoodcatoh wait19:45
mrgoodcati get it19:45
mrgoodcatit was a joke19:45
mrgoodcatholy crap19:45
mrgoodcatignore me19:45
rick_h_mrgoodcat: because my rss feed was 6 dropbox things in a row19:45
rick_h_from techcrunch19:46
mrgoodcatyup19:46
mrgoodcati get it now19:46
rick_h_:)19:46
mrgoodcatjeebus i feel slow19:46
rick_h_he's not as crazy as he seems sometimes...but only sometimes19:46
mrgoodcatis the mail client good?19:47
rick_h_it's cool, different with the swipy-ness19:47
rick_h_like the idea of built in snooze19:47
rick_h_snoozing all my pycon trip emails until tomorrow19:47
mrgoodcatrick_h_: how did you download the mail client19:59
mrgoodcati can't get it19:59
mrgoodcatdid you just get it from google play?19:59
rick_h_mrgoodcat: from play store19:59
mrgoodcati can't seem to find it19:59
mrgoodcateven on a computer20:00
rick_h_I went from the techcrunch article to the dropbox app website to the play store to sending it to my phone20:00
mrgoodcatthe play store link is broken for me20:00
mrgoodcatgot it20:02
mrgoodcatfor some reason the play store doesn't play nice with the google-chrome unstable20:02
rick_h_:) it's what I'm on20:04
rick_h_https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mailboxapp20:04
mrgoodcatworked fine with firefox20:05
greg-galso https://twitter.com/trevortimm/status/45398779577083494420:14
brouschCarousel seems the most useful, but I'm still skeptical of its longevity due to being closed source20:15
brouschIs Mediagoblin stable now?20:16
rick_h_yea, and it doesn't have edit/etc20:16
greg-gbrousch: ish?20:16
greg-gre mediagoblin20:16
greg-gif you're comfortable getting dirty with deploying python webapps20:16
brouschdepends on how dirty20:16
greg-gstill not packaged in debian :/20:16
greg-gvenv and all that20:16
brouschIt's based on their own python web framework20:17
rick_h_I thought it was django based?20:17
brouschNo, it is django-like20:17
rick_h_ugh20:17
rick_h_double ugh20:17
brouschI've contributed to 2 rounds of their fundraisers20:18
Havenstance_spock@spock-ubuntu:~$ openssl version22:17
Havenstance_OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 201222:17
Havenstance_Isn't this part of the Heart Bleed Bug?22:17
Havenstance_should prollie ask this in #xubuntu sry22:20
Havenstance_mrgoodcat, whoever thought up the samba module in Zentyal is my hero. Just added another storage disk. had to reboot gparted the drive, configured Fstab, mounted it, and its sharing on the network. took less then 5 minutes :)23:38

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