[00:00] <cmaloney> Glad you could watch it
[00:01] <havenstance> me too, learned alot, not that I'd ever know how to use any of it but it was good information just the same
[00:03] <tony-smlr> Cool stuf,  this is the link he was talking about when they opensource the datacenters: http://www.opencompute.org/
[00:06] <cmaloney> heh
[00:07] <tony-smlr> This is other open source projects they work on https://code.facebook.com/projects/
[01:17] <Havenstance> I have never in my life seen such a tempermental computer
[01:18] <Havenstance> tried to add a PCI Graphics Card, it fought me for a good half hour on booting afterwards. come to find out someone didn't put enough screws in this machine. So the PCI Card wasn't seating into the slot properly. Stuck up about the width of a piece of hair...
[02:01] <greg-g> jrwren: sad I missed! was it recorded?
[02:01]  * greg-g goes
[03:26] <cmaloney> greg-g: Both Gib and waldo323 recorded it.
[10:45] <cmaloney> Good morning
[10:56] <cmaloney> Apparently UPS is having "conditions [that] have caused the delivery date and time to change"
[10:57] <cmaloney> Got an email that said Thursday, now Today.
[10:57] <cmaloney> Was scheduled for today
[10:57] <cmaloney> Wonder if one of those conditions was Amazon getting up in their business.
[11:33] <rick_h_> morning ugh
[11:42] <cmaloney> rick_h_: We missed you at MUG last night
[11:43] <rick_h_> yea, well with a week of travel away too much to do
[11:43] <cmaloney> Figured as much
[11:43] <rick_h_> camper is in the driveway, designer giving us sticker shock on porch, and helping wife prep the house
[11:43] <cmaloney> Sticker shock. That's always fun.
[11:44] <rick_h_> heh, well I was up at one area, then she brought me down to a lower number 'estimate' and I got all happy, then went over my original idea of a number yesterday
[11:44] <rick_h_> but she's just so rough on it, so now we get a real estimate and we'll see
[11:45] <rick_h_> wheeeeee
[11:50] <cmaloney> Nice.
[11:50] <cmaloney> hoping for some good news your way.
[11:50] <cmaloney> yay resetting passwords on sites!
[12:34] <mrgoodcat> morning party people
[12:34] <mrgoodcat> has everyone patched their openssl?
[12:38] <rick_h_> why? did something happen?
[12:38] <rick_h_> :P
[12:39] <mrgoodcat> lol
[12:39] <mrgoodcat> i just found one more system that has an old version of ssl
[12:39] <mrgoodcat> but it turns out it's too old to be vulnerable to heartbleed
[12:39] <mrgoodcat> :S
[12:52] <Havenstance2> mrgoodcat, the openssl is part of zentyal isn't it?
[12:52] <mrgoodcat> openssl isn't a part of zentyal per-se
[12:52] <mrgoodcat> why do you ask?
[12:52] <mrgoodcat> if you have automatic updates set up you should be fine
[12:52] <Havenstance2> just curious if i need to patch it for heartbleed :)
[12:52]  * Havenstance2 remotes home & checks it out 
[12:52] <Havenstance2> lol
[12:52] <mrgoodcat> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade should be fine
[12:53] <mrgoodcat> run the command `openssl version` on your server
[12:53] <Havenstance2> I should have the new server here today too, so if I put zentyal on that should I do an apt-get updgrade?
[12:54] <mrgoodcat> anything older than 1.0.1 is fine
[12:54] <mrgoodcat> and anything newer than 1.0.1g is fine
[12:54] <Havenstance2> 1.0.1e
[12:54] <mrgoodcat> you're vulnerable
[12:54] <Havenstance2> damn
[12:54] <mrgoodcat> unrelated note.... cough.... what's your ip?
[12:55] <Havenstance2> not sure lol
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> it was a joke man
[12:55] <Havenstance2> :)
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> just update and you should be fine
[12:55] <Havenstance2> I know
[12:55] <Havenstance2> I have a VPN Tunnel I use for it
[12:55] <mrgoodcat> well your VPN encryption isn't doing you any good until you update
[12:56] <mrgoodcat> and you have to restart any services using it
[12:56] <Havenstance2> upgrading it now :)
[12:56] <mrgoodcat> probably better to just reboot the machine
[12:56] <Havenstance2> sudo reboot the entire box?
[12:56] <Havenstance2> that's what I was thinking
[12:56] <mrgoodcat> that's what i did
[12:56] <Havenstance2> now if i install a new server today is it going to have the heartbleed vulnerability?
[12:56] <mrgoodcat> the company can afford 16 seconds of downtime to patch something like heartbleed
[12:56] <mrgoodcat> probably not
[12:56] <Havenstance2> ok
[12:56] <Havenstance2> i'll double check to be safe of course
[12:57] <mrgoodcat> well actually that's not accurate
[12:57] <Havenstance2> it would depend if it pulled packages from the net right?
[12:57] <mrgoodcat> if you install ubuntu from disc then yes you are vulnerable
[12:58] <mrgoodcat> but if you pull from the net then it will update automagically
[12:58] <mrgoodcat> 14.04 currently has 1.0.1f on disc
[12:58] <Havenstance2> i'll still opt to run the openssl version just to be safe
[12:59] <mrgoodcat> 13.10 is vuln
[12:59] <jrwren> rick_h_: designer for what?
[13:00] <jrwren> Havenstance2: imap ssl likely needs the heartbleed patch
[13:00] <rick_h_> jrwren: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gozj35lmsfv5k8m/2014-04-09%2008.09.55.jpg
[13:00] <rick_h_> jrwren: well, rotate that around
[13:00] <jrwren> a barn?
[13:00] <jrwren> or really just RV storage?
[13:00] <rick_h_> lol
[13:00] <mrgoodcat> 10.04 and older are unaffected tho
[13:01] <rick_h_> no, a screned back porch
[13:01] <rick_h_> jrwren: ^
[13:01] <jrwren> oh. cool.
[13:03]  * rick_h_ is mad he can't rotate that photo in dropbox
[13:04] <mrgoodcat> download -> rotate -> upload
[13:04] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: that...sounds like work
[13:04] <mrgoodcat> tada
[13:04]  * mrgoodcat dances
[13:05] <brousch> fuckit. I'm switching back to telnet
[13:07] <Havenstance2> jrwren, how do i patch that?
[13:08] <jrwren> Havenstance2: update libssl1.0.0 package and restart services
[13:08] <Havenstance2> jrwren, will do thank you :0
[13:08] <Havenstance2> :)
[13:15] <mrgoodcat> trusty RC tomorrow ;)
[13:15] <mrgoodcat> er :)
[13:24] <Havenstance2> so as a recap mrgoodcat openssl 0.9.8e should be secure against heartbleed?
[13:24] <mrgoodcat> against heartbleed yes
[13:24] <mrgoodcat> openssl heartbeat support wasn't included until the 1.0.1 series
[13:24] <Havenstance2> k, this is on the current clearos network controller here which will be ultimately giving way to zentyal by this time Friday
[13:25] <Havenstance2> so I won't worry about it then :)
[13:29] <brousch> rick_h_: How many gsoc slots did you get?
[13:30] <rick_h_> brousch: got 2
[13:30] <brousch> nice!
[13:30] <rick_h_> yea, we we're in business
[13:30] <mrgoodcat> good for you
[13:30] <mrgoodcat> any idea which students you got?
[13:30] <brousch> psf got 52 slots, they were expecting 40
[13:31] <mrgoodcat> psf..... python something foundation?
[13:31] <mrgoodcat> software?....
[13:33] <brousch> yes
[13:34] <brousch> The PSF is acting as a middle man for a bunch of Python GSoC projects
[13:45] <mrgoodcat> just found the motherlode
[13:45] <mrgoodcat> https://github.com/vhf/free-programming-books
[13:54] <cmaloney> I really hate mysql's 'username'@'localhost' user format
[13:54] <mrgoodcat> why?
[13:55] <cmaloney> it's stupid? :)
[13:55] <mrgoodcat> can't say it's ever bothered me
[13:55] <mrgoodcat> maybe i'm just used to it
[13:55] <cmaloney> I don't like having to create two users
[13:55] <mrgoodcat> one for localhost one for remote connections?
[13:55] <cmaloney> yes
[13:56] <cmaloney> It's a use-case that I've rarely seen be useful
[13:56] <cmaloney> (the host-limited connection limited by the database)
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> yea i got that
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> there isn't a way to make one user available to all hosts?
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> try 0.0.0.0
[13:57] <cmaloney> There's %, but I believe Mysql treats that differently than localhost
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> yup
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> that's remote
[13:57] <cmaloney> which is stupid.
[13:58] <mrgoodcat> it's supposed to be a 'security' feature i think
[13:59] <cmaloney> Understood. I think it misses the mark
[13:59] <mrgoodcat> you could run mysql on a non-standard port then ssh tunnel to localhost so all remote connections show up as local...
[13:59] <mrgoodcat> that would be damn hacky tho
[14:00] <cmaloney> Or I could put up a firewall rule to do what MySQL is ill-equipped to handle.
[14:00] <cmaloney> ;)
[14:00] <cmaloney> anywho, ranting
[14:00] <cmaloney> I'd rather be PostgreSQL.
[14:01] <mrgoodcat> i'd rather be someone using PostgreSQL
[14:01] <mrgoodcat> being a database seems like a lot of work
[14:01] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I think someone out there is wrong on the internet. better go investigate.
[14:01] <cmaloney> ;)
[14:03] <mrgoodcat> apparently % works on localhost as well as remote
[14:03] <mrgoodcat> if you have 2 users it will default to the @localhost user if you connect from local
[14:03] <mrgoodcat> but it isn't specifically required
[14:05] <mrgoodcat> on some systems there is a field in mysql.users where user is blank but host is localhost
[14:05] <mrgoodcat> and this makes it so % can only connect from remote
[14:06] <mrgoodcat> drop user ''@'localhost';
[14:06] <mrgoodcat> flush priveleges;
[14:06] <mrgoodcat> unless you WANT the anonymous user
[14:39] <cmaloney> Hmm.
[14:39] <cmaloney> Will have to lok into this further
[14:39] <cmaloney> but for now I have what I need.
[14:39] <cmaloney> Thanks!
[14:47] <mrgoodcat> np
[14:48] <mrgoodcat> i haven't tested it but the internet assures me it doesn't ever lie
[15:00] <cmaloney> heh
[17:57] <nullspace> sup all
[18:09] <mrgoodcat> hi
[18:10] <cmaloney> Howdy nullspace
[18:11] <mrgoodcat> chc @ 8 tonight?
[18:11] <mrgoodcat> for some reason my phone says 9pm
[18:33] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's tonight
[18:33] <cmaloney> DST? :)
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> but 8:00 right?
[18:43] <mrgoodcat> i think it's been wrong in my phone since the beginning
[18:48] <Havenstance2> YAWN :(
[18:49] <Havenstance2> winautomation is the antichrist
[18:50] <mrgoodcat> win* is the antichrist
[18:55] <Havenstance2> Microsoft = Antichrist
[18:55] <Havenstance2> :)
[18:58] <jrwren> hardly.
[18:58] <jrwren> google or apple are far more scary
[19:30] <rick_h_> crap did dropbox just take over techcrunch?
[19:32] <jrwren> they had some big announce today. I don't know what it was.
[19:32] <rick_h_> had a few of them it looks like
[19:44] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: where did you see that?
[19:45] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: techcrunch, they released a mail client, a photo app, and some business apps
[19:45] <rick_h_> trying out their mail client on the phone atm
[19:45] <rick_h_> kind of cool
[19:45] <brousch> dropbox mail client?
[19:45] <mrgoodcat> what makes you think they took over techcrunch from that?
[19:45] <mrgoodcat> oh wait
[19:45] <mrgoodcat> i get it
[19:45] <mrgoodcat> it was a joke
[19:45] <mrgoodcat> holy crap
[19:45] <mrgoodcat> ignore me
[19:45] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: because my rss feed was 6 dropbox things in a row
[19:46] <rick_h_> from techcrunch
[19:46] <mrgoodcat> yup
[19:46] <mrgoodcat> i get it now
[19:46] <rick_h_> :)
[19:46] <mrgoodcat> jeebus i feel slow
[19:46] <rick_h_> he's not as crazy as he seems sometimes...but only sometimes
[19:47] <mrgoodcat> is the mail client good?
[19:47] <rick_h_> it's cool, different with the swipy-ness
[19:47] <rick_h_> like the idea of built in snooze
[19:47] <rick_h_> snoozing all my pycon trip emails until tomorrow
[19:59] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: how did you download the mail client
[19:59] <mrgoodcat> i can't get it
[19:59] <mrgoodcat> did you just get it from google play?
[19:59] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: from play store
[19:59] <mrgoodcat> i can't seem to find it
[20:00] <mrgoodcat> even on a computer
[20:00] <rick_h_> I went from the techcrunch article to the dropbox app website to the play store to sending it to my phone
[20:00] <mrgoodcat> the play store link is broken for me
[20:02] <mrgoodcat> got it
[20:02] <mrgoodcat> for some reason the play store doesn't play nice with the google-chrome unstable
[20:04] <rick_h_> :) it's what I'm on
[20:04] <rick_h_> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mailboxapp
[20:05] <mrgoodcat> worked fine with firefox
[20:14] <greg-g> also https://twitter.com/trevortimm/status/453987795770834944
[20:15] <brousch> Carousel seems the most useful, but I'm still skeptical of its longevity due to being closed source
[20:16] <brousch> Is Mediagoblin stable now?
[20:16] <rick_h_> yea, and it doesn't have edit/etc
[20:16] <greg-g> brousch: ish?
[20:16] <greg-g> re mediagoblin
[20:16] <greg-g> if you're comfortable getting dirty with deploying python webapps
[20:16] <brousch> depends on how dirty
[20:16] <greg-g> still not packaged in debian :/
[20:16] <greg-g> venv and all that
[20:17] <brousch> It's based on their own python web framework
[20:17] <rick_h_> I thought it was django based?
[20:17] <brousch> No, it is django-like
[20:17] <rick_h_> ugh
[20:17] <rick_h_> double ugh
[20:18] <brousch> I've contributed to 2 rounds of their fundraisers
[22:17] <Havenstance_> spock@spock-ubuntu:~$ openssl version
[22:17] <Havenstance_> OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[22:17] <Havenstance_> Isn't this part of the Heart Bleed Bug?
[22:20] <Havenstance_> should prollie ask this in #xubuntu sry
[23:38] <Havenstance_> mrgoodcat, whoever thought up the samba module in Zentyal is my hero. Just added another storage disk. had to reboot gparted the drive, configured Fstab, mounted it, and its sharing on the network. took less then 5 minutes :)