[00:00] <bodhi64> looking for a good bodhi newbie channel
[00:02] <Bashing-om> Oog: Direction here ->http://www.rsyslog.com/ubuntu-repository/ <- .
[00:02] <bekks> mbslk: It is possible. Use LVM, create a snapshot before updating the mirror, switch the clients to the snapshot (logically, on the server), switch them back after updating the mirror, remove the snapshot. Doing so, it is not necessary to block clients, since they will not get partially new contents until you removed the snapshot. In addition, you have to modify each clients sources.list to point to your mirror.
[00:02] <bekks> mbslk: I hope you got the idea described. :)
[00:03] <mbslk> Hi @bekks Thanks for the quick response, Trying to process what you said as I am new to ubuntu :)
[00:04] <bekks> mbslk: I suggest starting with apt-cacher-ng instead of a full blown mirror.
[00:04] <Oog> Bashing-om: it still shows sudo add-apt-repository ppa:adiscon/v8-devel
[00:04] <Oog> that is adiscon right?
[00:05] <mbslk> @bekks: ok...lemme do some reading on apt-cacher-ng
[00:08] <Bashing-om> Oog: ??-> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/adiscon/v8-devel/ubuntu saucy main  <- just change your source to this. Ya see the 'ppa.launchpad.net ' .
[00:08] <bjorn2in> Hi all... I am having trouble with Ice-tea PlugIn both in Chrome and FF... running 12.04 and IcedTea Web 1.2.3 (1.2.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.4)... browser just hangs when attempting to execute java script.. help please
[00:09] <bekks> bjorn2in: javascript has nothing to do with java.
[00:09] <bjorn2in> ok.. my bad..
[00:10] <bjorn2in> it hangs when trying the test on Oracle site for java version
[00:10] <Oog> can i just manually update the urls in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[00:10] <bekks> bjorn2in: I suggest using Oracle Java then.
[00:10] <bekks> !java | bjorn2in
[00:11] <mbslk> @bekks: LVM snapshot will require me to update the sources.list on client machines to point it to LVM snapshot right?
[00:12] <Bashing-om> Oog: Yep, Just make sure what you have is what is instructed in the link; then -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- for the change to take efect.
[00:12] <bjorn2in> I assume I should uninstall the IcedTea and openjdk then?
[00:13] <Bashing-om> Ool: Just make sure that you are updating the cuurent "fetch" not adding , as that would then introduce a duplication.
[00:18] <mbslk> bekks: apt-cacher-ng will not work for me as well, also looks like LVM would still require me to modify sources.list on client's which is not what I want, I want to achieve this without any modification on client's
[00:20] <bekks> mbslk: Then you have setup a transparent proxy on the default gateway, and create some proxy URL rewrite magic redirecting specific URLs to your mirror. Thats not what you want to do as a newbie, honestly.
[00:22] <mbslk> bekks: What I was thinking is if there is a way to not fetch Packages.gz file through apt-mirror, but rather fetch it as post-mirror? That way if client's do not see new Packages.gz they won't try to fetch new packages, Is it possible?
[00:22] <bekks> mbslk: there is no way - first, the package lists are fetched, then the actual contents.
[00:22] <mbslk> hmm
[00:23] <Havenstance> anyone know how to change the time from 24h to 12h am/pm in xubuntu?
[00:24] <Havenstance> nvm got it ty
[00:25] <Jordan_U> mbslk: Why do you need to prevent clients from fetching packages while mirroring? The old packages will remain usable.
[00:29] <jellow> which is lighter on server hardware ntf or samba ext4?
[00:30] <zubuntu> .
[00:30] <zubuntu> still same
[00:30] <bekks> jellow: nfs is a network filesharing protocol as samba. ext4 isnt involved into that.
[00:31] <euryale> hi guys!
[00:32] <zubuntu> hey euryale
[00:32] <euryale> does anyone know the reason why elementaryos luna is so slow on my my desktop and laptop?
[00:33] <bazhang> ask in the elementary channel euryale
[00:33] <euryale> my desktop is using an nvidia graphics card, and my laptop is using amd a6 apu with amd 8400 graphics.
[00:33] <euryale> ok.
[00:33] <euryale> there's just the two of us in that channel :(
[00:34] <euryale> will upgrading to the latest kernel version fix the problem??
[00:34] <euryale> luna is based on 12.04
[00:35] <OerHeks> elementary has its own issues euryale
[00:35] <euryale> ok
[00:36] <Artemis3> jellow, nfs is lighter on network usage
[00:39] <jellow> Artemis3,  do you know about cpu and ram usage of the server , My nas box is a little under powered.
[00:39] <LINUC> I have a NUC (d34010wyk) with ubuntu installed. I'm trying to get the IR port up and running but it's proving more of a challenge than anticipated. Is there anybody out there who has the time to try and help me?
[00:40] <LINUC> Any help greatly appreciated
[00:40] <Artemis3> jellow, you will have to monitor, it depends on usage.
[00:42] <LINUC> using lsusb I don't see the device listed, but others report seeing topspeed technology ehome transceiver listed here
[00:46] <mbslk> Jordan_U: The reason I want clients to hold client's is because let's say some new package version A.1 is dependent on another new package B, and let's assume that A.1 has been mirrored but B is not yet mirrored, now if the client starts to fetch A.1 and install it, it will fail....What I want is complete control so no such failure occur
[00:47] <mbslk> so client should only get new packages after mirroring is done
[00:49] <anao> hi@all is there a developer for filesystems like ext4 online?
[00:50] <LINUC> Anybody that can help a poor soul setting up the IR receiver on the NUC? It is not listed under lsusb but was up and running on my openelec installation
[00:53] <ubunnoob> anyone use "Testdisk" before?
[00:56] <Oog> i installed rsyslog 8 devel by mistake :( how do i revert to v7 stable? i updated the adiscon repositories to v7 stable now
[00:59] <brima> hola
[00:59] <Guest000000> I have an Ubuntu question, I want to open an  .apt link, yet it says I need to use an application, what application do I need?
[01:04] <Dbugger> Hi guys
[01:04] <Dbugger> Is anyone else running in a bug with ubuntu 13.10 that when you switch Workspace with dual monitor, the position of the windows has changed?
[01:05] <Bashing-om> Oog: ppa purge commnad should take 'rsyslog' back to what is avaiable in the repository.
[01:05] <Bashing-om> command*
[01:09] <Bashing-om> Oog: If you do "ppa purge <???>" remember to manually remove the ppa fetch line in the sources list file.
[01:11] <grahamsavage_> is there a way of skipping a package in apt-get upgrade
[01:11] <pentester_> how do you clear the devices in sound settings? My bluetooth headphones appear multiple times
[01:13] <BasedGeek> hey fellas i have an Ubuntu Server question about running GopherD
[01:13] <BasedGeek> Any of you have any experience running a Gopher server?
[01:16] <grahamsavage_> when is 14.04 stable due out?
[01:17] <LINUC> I wouldn't expect answers here, better to use the forums (from my personal experience)
[01:21] <turbulent> hey
[01:22] <grahamsavage_> LINUX: i think it depends on the time
[01:22] <grahamsavage_> Hi turbulance
[01:22] <turbulent> hi
[01:22] <turbulent> how is it going?
[01:22] <grahamsavage_> i don't know.. get it into work.. and everyones clammoring about some ssl security bug
[01:26] <qin> BasedGeek: Why do you want to run gopher?
[01:27] <cfhowlett> !server|BasedGeek ask the server channel
[01:30] <turbulent> i have a generic question, kinda need a micro survey about what developers would want to know from friends on social networks
[01:30] <turbulent> can anyone spare some time to chat
[01:31] <cfhowlett> !ot|turbulent
[01:31] <turbulent> gotcha
[01:31] <turbulent> thanks for at least directing
[01:32] <cfhowlett> turbulent best of luck
[01:32] <grahamsavage_> cf!
[01:32] <grahamsavage_> do you know of a local oracle mirror?
[01:32] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_ sorry, I do not.
[01:32] <grahamsavage_> i'm getting like 7kb/s in apt-get upgrade :(
[01:34] <hunterloftis> Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com' <-- local problem or is this really down? (`apt-get install`)
[01:39] <AcidRain2012> how do i make windows open by default, on a certain monitor?
[01:39] <AcidRain2012> they are all wanting to go to a different one
[01:40] <qin> hunterloftis: http://www.isup.me/archive.ubuntu.com
[01:40] <hunterloftis> qin: I can get to archive.ubuntu.com from my desktop, but docker is failing
[01:40] <qin> hunterloftis: docker?
[01:41] <hunterloftis> docker.io instance
[01:41] <hunterloftis> mini vm
[01:41] <apb1963> 12.04... I have a USB speakerphone... there's a popup when I plug it in indicating that the device is apparently recognized... but, I get no sound out of it (nor does the mic. seem to work).  It's a Kinyo ArtDio "True USB VoIP Speaker" model SS-100/SS-100B Any ideas on how to get this to work??
[01:42] <qin> hunterloftis: What is error message?
[01:42] <apb1963> AcidRain2012: set your DISPLAY variable properly.  Probably something like :1 maybe.  i.e. export DISPLAY=:1 or something like that.
[01:43] <hunterloftis> qin: Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[01:43] <apb1963> AcidRain2012: guessing of course.
[01:44] <qin> hunterloftis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91543/apt-get-update-fails-to-fetch-files-temporary-failure-resolving-error
[01:44] <qin> hunterloftis: in short, they want you to use public dns.
[01:46] <hunterloftis> qin - thanks. f'ing weird. I can ping archive.ubuntu.com no problem from my host but in docker it fails. :/ time to go debug...
[01:47] <qin> hunterloftis: there is mentioned proxy issue with apt in that post.
[01:48] <hunterloftis> qin - suspect my vm, gonna start there and see why network is unreliable
[01:48] <hunterloftis> yep, rebooting vm did it. thanks!
[01:58] <phao> I've attached an app to my lateral bar. However, how do I make it work like the 'files' app, in which if I click on it, it opens a new nautilus instance instead of going to the one already opened?
[02:00] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys just using xubuntu 12.04 I want to update my rkhunter, but It will not let me and the repos are outdated for 12.04.
[02:00] <Psil0Cybin> following these instructions (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2180153) should I install the new version via the tarball?
[02:05] <phao> anyone?
[02:05] <TheRookieLearner> Hi. Can anyone please help me with http://askubuntu.com/questions/445141/why-does-my-filesystem-appear-to-be-full-to-ubuntu
[02:06] <unkerror> phao: I believe the -n switch does what you want
[02:07] <phao> but where do I put this '-n' switch?
[02:07] <sexyboy> why there is so many wearables out of stock in the canonical store :|
[02:07] <sexyboy> like since months
[02:08] <sexyboy> are they selling stuff or not
[02:09] <unkerror> phao: it is nautilus that you're running from the menu shortcut right?
[02:09] <phao> yes
[02:09] <phao> but I don't see where I can configure the command it runs.
[02:11] <ResQue> is there a way i can format an ip range in CIDR format for all ips or all internet based ips. i thought of something like 0.0.0.0/32 but i think maybe that is reserved as a special meaning?
[02:12] <unkerror> if you added the item as a launcher you should be able to modify the command-line by clicking configure and then edit in the panel preferences
[02:14] <phao> I didn't add it as a laucher. When I opened it, I right click its icon in the menu and selected "Lock to launcher"
[02:14] <sexyboy> while i'm here, how do i set preferred display mode in ubuntu past 13.10 and 14.04?
[02:14] <sexyboy> it seems to ignore my xorg.conf
[02:15] <unkerror> phao: I'm not sure how you would modify it then
[02:15] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: What is your issue ?
[02:15] <phao> I mean, I added it to the launcher, but I didn't go to any place and set its command line invocation or anything like it
[02:17] <john_rambo> I am writing the Ubuntu iso image to USB using dd what should be the bs ? ....bs=?
[02:18] <Stanley00> john_rambo: well, 4MB or 8MB will be good, or just don't use it :D
[02:19] <john_rambo> Stanley00, Its running atm with bs but its taking forever
[02:19] <john_rambo> without
[02:19] <TheRookieLearner> Bashing-om: I am neither able to copy any files nor create new files in my partition
[02:20] <TheRookieLearner> The partition has a lot of free space but still I get the error saying "No space left on device"
[02:21] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: OK, as in the link, pastbinit -> df -h , df -i <- and we see what the next step is.
[02:21] <Stanley00> john_rambo: you can see in this link, I think the default of dd can do the job :D http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6161823/dd-how-to-calculate-optimal-blocksize
[02:25] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: The space on a 'device' as opposed to the partition is not related, post the requested commnands to pasbin, will then know what to advise to look at where the space is being conumed.
[02:25] <Bashing-om> consumed*
[02:28] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device and make it stay installed
[02:28] <WizardGed> haey have a quick question, how could one reset libreoffices defaults from the command line (here are those pesky config files/ other files etc).
[02:28] <TheRookieLearner> Bashing-om: Here you go http://pastebin.com/h84BDgBB
[02:29] <Bashing-om> LLKCKfan: see -> man modprobe <- .. hope that helps .
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys what should I do if I am using Ubuntu 12.04, and it has an outdated version of rkhunter in the repos that cannot update its definitions because its stated as EOL. It says that 14.04 has updated repos with the new rkhunter 1.4.0, should I uninstall it version 1.3.8 and install it via a tarball as suggested a while ago in this post (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2180153)
[02:29] <LLKCKfan> No help
[02:29] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device and make it stay installed
[02:29] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: looking at http://pastebin.com/h84BDgBB
[02:30] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: A wubi install ???
[02:30] <TheRookieLearner> Yeah
[02:30] <WizardGed> LLKCKfan: what do you mean "a device"? there are literally thousands of diffrent things that all can be configured to start at startup
[02:31] <LLKCKfan> Builtin mouse pad
[02:31] <TheRookieLearner> Bashing-om: Yeah, it is a Wubi install
[02:32] <rajat_kapoor> Can anyone please help me , I have started getting "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" on 12.04 desktop terminal?
[02:32] <sadpuppy> malware run
[02:32] <LLKCKfan> Software
[02:32] <rajat_kapoor> I guess grub is also messed up
[02:32] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: I am not familiar with WUBI, but there is a maximum of 30 gigs in that Windows virtual environment. But others willl have to advise further. Never messed with WUBI.
[02:33] <WizardGed> LLKCKfan: that is a kernel modukle, you need to configure
[02:33] <TheRookieLearner> Bashing-om: Ya, I know about the 30 Gb limit. I increased the limit to 48 gigs.
[02:34] <LLKCKfan> No
[02:34] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: ?? I was under the distinct impression that the max that could be increased was to 30 gigs (??).
[02:35] <rajat_kapoor> Can anyone please help me , I have started getting "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" on 12.04 desktop terminal?
[02:36] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device and make it stay installed
[02:37] <TheRookieLearner> Bashing-om: Using the default Wubi installation, yes, only 30 gigs is possible. But there are methods to increase that limit
[02:37] <TheRookieLearner> See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371&highlight=resize2fs%20wubi
[02:37] <jiohdi> wubi used to be a dangerous thing to use... when you update, it changes things and both systems fail to boot
[02:39] <TheRookieLearner> jiohdi: I successfully changed the drive space yesterday from 30 gigs to 48 gigs and booted into it. Currently i am working from Ubuntu
[02:39] <jiohdi> TheRookieLearner, the bugs may have been fixed since I tried wubi
[02:39] <jiohdi> its been a few years
[02:39] <TheRookieLearner> Yeah, mighy be.
[02:39] <TheRookieLearner> *might
[02:42] <TheRookieLearner> Bashing-om: How do you know its a Wubi install just by looking at the output from df -h and  df -i commands?
[02:42] <btorch> so i had an issue with my box and now it only gives me a grub rescue> prompt
[02:43] <btorch> I used the cd to get to the rescue mode and did all the grub-install and update-grub which seems to work fine
[02:43] <btorch> after I reboot the box and choose the ubuntu 12.04 option on grub .. the system goes into a kernel panic and locks up
[02:44] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: yes -> /dev/sda7        50G   50G  441M 100% /host <- " the '/host' gives it away.
[02:44] <btorch> something about the wrong root being chosen but the UUID for the root is correct .. anyone seens that before ?
[02:44] <TheRookieLearner> Ahh.. I see.. Thanks.
[02:45] <o------> how do i uninstall java from  ubuntu
[02:45] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: I would that I could hel, but WUBI is out of my pay grade .
[02:46] <Bashing-om> hel/help
[02:47] <TheRookieLearner> Bashing-om: No problem. Thanks for trying though. :)
[02:47] <TheRookieLearner> Can anyone tell me why I can't create or copy files in my partition in Ubuntu? I have posted the question at http://askubuntu.com/questions/445141/why-does-my-filesystem-appear-to-be-full-to-ubuntu#445141
[02:50] <Haikarainen> I need a newer version of g++ than I currently have, (have version 4.6.3), how can I get the latest .deb possible for ARM ?
[03:08] <Foxhoundz> has ubuntu released an update for the openssl bug?
[03:08] <Foxhoundz> or is this something to be manually patched
[03:08] <gx> hey guys, i did 'apt get upgrade openssl'
[03:08] <Seven_Six_Two> for some reason I'm getting "secure connection failed" for wiki.gnome.org using firefox. chromium loads it. the site forces https.
[03:08] <gx> and it apparently upgraded everything on my server... now it's stuck at:
[03:08] <gx> Setting up mariadb-server-core-10.0 (10.0.10+maria-1~precise) ...
[03:08] <gx> Setting up mariadb-server-10.0 (10.0.10+maria-1~precise) ...
[03:08] <gx>  * Stopping MariaDB database server mysqld                               [ OK ]
[03:08] <gx> just sitting there for 10 mins now
[03:08] <Seven_Six_Two> oh wait...I should still be in +1 for 14.04, right?
[03:08] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed
[03:09] <ZC> is there any way to get an libssl1.0 pkg for ubuntu 13.04?
[03:09] <bkmon> Hi (12.04 64bit). Why can't I install ia32-libs-multiarch? It's giving me unmet yet "not going to be installed" packages list
[03:17] <bijoo_> So if I build/compile package on own; can I get apt-get to recognize it?
[03:17] <bijoo_> In particular libssl
[03:19] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed
[03:20] <bijoo_> LLKCKfan: sudo make install ?
[03:21] <LLKCKfan> I install it
[03:21] <LLKCKfan> within two restarts it is gone
[03:22] <bijoo_> LLKCKfan: are you running standard Linux distro?
[03:22] <bijoo_> LLKCKfan: if on router something, may volatile
[03:22] <LLKCKfan> Windows
[03:24] <bijoo_> LLKCKfan: oh, hmm; sorry, not good with Windows there.
[03:25] <Ben64> LLKCKfan: windows support in ##windows. please use the correct channels for your problems. this is far from the first time you've been told this
[03:28] <LLKCKfan> cannot get there
[03:28] <Ben64> LLKCKfan: that does not make it on topic here, sorry
[03:31] <johnnyk> hi
[03:31] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed
[03:32] <snufft> hi guys!
[03:32] <johnnyk> once the updated openssl package is installed to mitigate the heartbleed exploit, do we need to restart services using ssl or is that not necessary?
[03:33] <snufft> i'm trying to do an update and have run out of room on /root. I've found a few guides that say to empty different files from root (or apt-get clean), but none of them specifically the particular files that I have occupying my space.
[03:35] <Salam_M_Ahmed> @jonnyk. Good Question. in my humble opinion... Yes is good idea to restart service that uses SSL.
[03:35] <snufft> I have a bunch of abi-3.11.0-[number]-generic config-3.11.0-[number]-generic initrd.img-3.11.0-[number]-generic System.map-3.11.0-[number].generic vmlinuz-3.11.0[number]-generic files, where [number] is something like 13 14 15 16 etc
[03:35] <snufft> can I delete all the ones I've listed?
[03:37] <johnnyk> Salam_M_Ahmed: do you know if it is necessary? this covers many servers and so a rolling restart would be bad if it wasn't necessary
[03:38] <Foxhoundz> I am running Ubuntu 13.10 Gnome Remix
[03:38] <Foxhoundz> How do I upgrade my gnome shell to the latest release?
[03:38] <Foxhoundz> It's running 3.8 but I want the latest, which is 3.12
[03:39] <Salam_M_Ahmed> Umm... I swaer i wish if i could help you with that, but honestly... i am NOT sure.
[03:39] <Foxhoundz> Salam_M_Ahmed: thank you for your kind words
[03:40] <Guest56309> i Have been running Ubuntu Server since Version 10.04, i always setup samba the same way...in 12.04 the samba shares are not showing up in network, yet testparm says all is ok, and it works fine in 13.10....is there something different with 12.04 that i may be missing?
[03:42] <Salam_M_Ahmed> i personally... after upgrading SSL i restarted the who server.
[03:43] <johnnyk> Salam_M_Ahmed: np, thank you for the help you did give!
[03:44] <Bashing-om> snufft: run uname -r , so you jnow what kernel to keep, then to remove kernels ->sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.2.0-31-generic , sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-headers-3.2.0-31-generic <- as an example.
[03:45] <gbear14275> does yum work with ubuntu?
[03:47] <Bashing-om> gbear14275: Well, the idea is similar, but the technigue differ. ubuntu is "apt-get" .
[03:47] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed
[03:47] <Salam_M_Ahmed> @johnnyk as you know... SSL deal with some very 'sensitive' Communications, therefore i strongly advice to restart services that associated with SSL.
[03:47] <Guest56309> gbear14275 : gbear14275> does yum work with ubuntu?
[03:47] <Guest56309> * tgcid (~cidolfus@65-129-91-69.bois.qwest.net) has joined #ubuntu
[03:47] <Ben64> LLKCKfan: stop asking that here, this channel is for ubuntu support only
[03:47] <snufft> Bashing-om, thanks for the reply :) uname -r says I'm running 3.11.0-19-generic. so do i just delete all the ones before 19?
[03:47] <Guest56309> gbear14275 ....http://www.unix.com/ubuntu/93054-can-i-use-yum-command-ubuntu.html
[03:47] <Salam_M_Ahmed> and you very welcome :D
[03:48] <Beldar> Guest56309, I heard yum was in the repos but using it would not be a good idea, apt-get is what you want.
[03:48] <gbear14275> Bashing-om, Guest56309, sorry... dumb mistake... forgot to restablish an ssh session with a server and coudn't figure out how I updated a server with yum that was now reporting as a Ubuntu box
[03:49] <Bashing-om> snufft: -> dpkg -l | grep linux- <- , and ya want to keep at least one other kernel on the system just as a opps something bad happened.
[03:49] <Beldar> Guest56309, Sorry I meant gbear14275
[03:50] <snufft> Bashing-om, sorry, I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking at here....
[03:51] <Bashing-om> snufft: Well, then - show me what you are looking at -> pastebinit .
[03:52] <pato_bravo> Hello, I am trying to install my system on two separate disks that my system using. I have followed the indication as per http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd#.U0TCoKaVsu8, but I only get a grub rescue console when I reboot.
[03:53] <Bashing-om> snufft: Are you by chance at 100% capacity, and with no head room "apt-get --purge" can not operate ?
[03:54] <Guest3265> 14.04 xubuntu no volume indicator on taskbar?
[03:54] <silv3r_m00n1> hi
[03:54] <john_rambo> Unity wont start without Nvidia propretary driver It hangs at login screen showing garbage ......Jockey selects the correct driver version for us ...how do I do this manually ?
[03:56] <Guest3265> john_rambo xorg.conf?
[03:56] <BasedGeek> it's clearly an xfree86 issue
[03:57] <BasedGeek> try reinstalling your nouveau drivers and then running an nmap scan to filter an open packets
[03:57] <BasedGeek> youll want to do this with a kali jump drive installed in your hard drive when you do it so you have access to the right credentials
[03:57] <Ben64> BasedGeek: if you're not going to help, just be quiet
[03:57] <Bashing-om> john_rambo: Can you access your destop through grub's recovery console ? If so, there maybe a GUI menas to (re-)install the Nvidia driver.
[03:58] <BasedGeek> dont be a hater. you can't hate on knowledge
[03:58] <BasedGeek> haterrr.. tisk
[03:58] <Guest3265> I do not even have an xorg.conf on this box =/  I must have been lazy when I set it up
[03:58] <john_rambo> Bashing-om, Trying ....Rebooting
[03:59] <RahulAN> Hii all
[03:59] <BasedGeek> o/
[03:59] <monkeyhat> HIIIII
[03:59] <Guest3265> blacklist nouveau
[04:00] <RahulAN> I am using cheese for video recording, it is saving that into .webm format.. is it possible to save them in .avi format
[04:00] <monkeyhat> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[04:01] <snufft> Bashing-om, here's the pastebin :) http://pastebin.com/mxm3beXp and I don't think I'm quite at 100%, i just don't have enough to do the latest updates
[04:01] <RahulAN> monkeyhat, is it for me?
[04:01] <WJB> not sure if this got out
[04:01] <WJB> shouldn't i be able to do a ls -lrta | grep *.mp3 and get a listing of all the mp3 files?
[04:01] <BasedGeek> hello WJB
[04:01] <BasedGeek> small world
[04:02] <monkeyhat> lol, yea it was, jks soz
[04:02] <BasedGeek> how's the multiple mountpoints going?
[04:02] <WJB> i got it tio work no problem
[04:03] <BasedGeek> was it in mpd.conf
[04:03] <monkeyhat> hey RahulAN, how about this as last resort: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27864/best-video-converter
[04:03] <chaotic_good> how can I turn off policykit and console kit?
[04:04] <RahulAN> monkeyhat, this is the last option. any thing else that could me done when using cheese
[04:04] <chaotic_good> they eat liek 3g ram
[04:04] <chaotic_good> and dont seem to do anything
[04:04] <Ben64> RahulAN: just so you know, avi isn't a format. it is a container, many codecs can be used in avi.
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> where can i change default homepage in webbrowser-app in ubuntu touch?
[04:04] <BasedGeek> WJB: how did you get multiple mountpoints?
[04:04] <WJB> im using icecast and ezstream
[04:04] <BasedGeek> right, just like in my tutorial
[04:05] <BasedGeek> but how did you get multiple channels
[04:05] <BasedGeek> remember i was trying to figure it out too
[04:06] <WJB> just started another instance of ezstream so i could control them better but just listed the different mountpoints in the url section of the .xml conf file it should work the same for icegenerator also
[04:06] <Bashing-om> snufft: looking at /mxm3beXp. brb .
[04:06] <WJB> in he mdf file im betting
[04:07] <BasedGeek> huh. i didn't think of that. im thinking of offering a live set by local DJ's on a weekend or something. im still working out budgeting some time to look at live streaming setups
[04:07] <WJB> give me the url for your tutorial again im on a different comp
[04:08] <WJB> what will you be using for the client os?
[04:08] <BasedGeek> client or server?
[04:08] <WJB> if you know
[04:08] <WJB> client
[04:08] <Ben64> !ot | WJB, BasedGeek
[04:08] <BasedGeek> there's no telling what people will listen to it from
[04:08] <ShabaDabaDoo> Anyone have a hint on getting my bios and by extension grub to show up on my monitors?
[04:08] <WJB> i always try and run server stuff on linux or nix of some kind thats just me though..lol
[04:09] <BasedGeek> hey Ben64, calm down. you can still watch all the join/parts around the discusssion here. it's ubuntu based.
[04:09] <Ben64> its off topic. just take it somewhere else
[04:09] <BasedGeek> that's what i meant, WJB its on an ubuntu server
[04:09] <BasedGeek> that's what it's running from
[04:09] <WJB> there is a beautimous app called MIXXX for mac or butt for the client part of it butt is for all os's i think let me get the link
[04:10] <BasedGeek> i used to use Mixxx when traktor would crap on my wine install
[04:10] <Bashing-om> snufft: Hang on a bit and I will vraft ya up a dpkg command to deal with all those kernels in 2 whacks.
[04:10] <BasedGeek> mixxx is pretty cool, i cant wait till they get colored waveforms by frequency
[04:10] <WJB> works great for me and butt the same way
[04:10] <snufft> Bashing-om, thank you very much :)
[04:10] <BasedGeek> cool ill check it out
[04:10] <enquirer> why my ubuntu always wants to restart? reboot-required.pkgs always has 3 lines: gconf2 \n libssl1.0.0 \n libssl1.0.0
[04:11] <WJB> is this a bot <ubottu> anyway cant i just do an ls -lrta | grep *.mp3 and get the mp3 file listings back...
[04:12] <gbear14275> hello, When I log into a ubuntu server using ssh... I usually get a bunch of info including upgrade information.  Can I make that appear at anytime?  If so using what command?  I don't want to have to log out and back in.
[04:12] <ShabaDabaDoo> In closing, I just want to say how much I appreciate you taking the time to read over this, and allow us the opportunity to provide further information. 
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> BasedGeek: did you try hydrogen?
[04:12] <Ben64> WJB: yes, ubottu is a bot. and you should do "grep mp3" instead of *.mp3
[04:12] <cfhowlett> gbear14275 man ssh should tell you much
[04:12] <BasedGeek> wjb, that doesnt work over here
[04:12] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed
[04:12] <BasedGeek> lotuspsychje:  no i havent, waht is it
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> !info hydrogen | BasedGeek
[04:13] <enquirer> maybe I should just delete reboot-required.pkgs?
[04:13] <Ben64> LLKCKfan: still not an issue for #ubuntu ... stop asking here
[04:13] <BasedGeek> oh yeah ive tried that
[04:13] <WJB> ok tyvm <Ben64>
[04:13] <BasedGeek> it was one of the few VST-like things i could get to run with ardour or something
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> BasedGeek: im still looking to find a neat groovebox-like software
[04:14] <WJB> isnt MIXXX pretty close to having DJ like app
[04:15] <BasedGeek> yeah it is basically the same
[04:15] <BasedGeek> basic functionality
[04:15] <BasedGeek> i prefer traktor 2, or serrato
[04:15] <BasedGeek> i think mixx allows you to use timecodes too
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> WJB: well mixxx is for mixing, im looking more such as roland 505 groovebox sort of thing
[04:15] <chaotic_good> how can I remove polykit and console kit and stop them from starting?
[04:15] <Ben64> Take all the off topic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else, please
[04:16] <BasedGeek> he's looking for a drum machine with a step sequencer, WJB, like the old roland analod mini-keyboard looking things.
[04:16] <BasedGeek> not a drum machine, err, a synth
[04:16] <Bashing-om> snufft: -> sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.11.0-{13,14,15,17}-generic , sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.11.0-{13,14,15,17}-generic . Then a bit more clean up.
[04:16] <monkeyhat> RahulAN, I didn't know ty
[04:16] <WJB> does traktor 2 or serrato for mac?
[04:16] <BasedGeek> Ben64: last time im going to tell you. cool it.
[04:16] <RahulAN> Ohkk
[04:16] <WJB> does=is
[04:16] <RahulAN> monkeyhat, I will
[04:16] <RahulAN> :)
[04:16] <BasedGeek> both are for mac and win
[04:17] <Ben64> BasedGeek: no. you're filling the channel with off topic nonsense. keep it clear for people with actual support issues. WJB too
[04:17] <BasedGeek> traktor 2 is by native instruments.
[04:17] <WJB> ok ill goto offtopic <BasedGeek> if thats cool
[04:17] <gbear14275_> cfhowlett, did you mean man sshd?  Just looked through all of man ssh and nothing there but connection config flags and options
[04:17] <BasedGeek> Ben64: you are testing my patience, and you really should be more respectful of your peers. i dont want to have to tell you again to stay in your place.
[04:17] <BasedGeek> anyway fellas, im off to bed. Ben64, you may have the floor now. WJB, ill catch up with you later.
[04:18] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed
[04:18] <WJB> see ya have a good night <BasedGeek>
[04:18] <BasedGeek> night WJB
[04:18] <DarkAceXtreme> there is a "pidof" which will tell me the process ID's of the given process name, but is there a command to get process names from an ID?
[04:18] <chaotic_good> pgrep
[04:18] <chaotic_good> lsof -i
[04:18] <cfhowlett> gbear14275 whatever the launch command is, try that in terminal.  options for support typically are based on the command --help protocol.    man command should give you details
[04:18] <chaotic_good> lsof -i|grep something
[04:18] <snufft> Bashing-om, the first commands yields "dependency problems - not removing" for all of them :(
[04:18] <DarkAceXtreme> thanks
[04:19] <Ben64> BasedGeek: don't make dumb threats, thanks
[04:19] <W1LF> hi
[04:20] <cfhowlett> W1LF greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[04:20] <W1LF> ty
[04:20] <Bashing-om> snufft: well, then ya got package management problems. let's look, pastebinit -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- to see what the issue is.
[04:21] <DarkAceXtreme> chaotic_good: that's actually not working out for me
[04:21] <W1LF> anyone knows app for screen recording?
[04:21] <Pegasus-PC> i have just setup samba in ubuntu 12.04, the same way i have always done it, i made my shares and then specified them in smb.conf...othere computers on network cannot see any shares at all
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam | W1LF
[04:21] <cfhowlett> W1LF instanbul, gtk-desktop-recorder   many more in the software center
[04:22] <W1LF> well thanks for the suggestion guys, i appreciate it
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> W1LF: welcome mate, come again if you need anything
[04:22] <W1LF> yup
[04:23] <W1LF> what do you work on guys?
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> W1LF: lets keep this channel for support questions only tnx
[04:23] <W1LF> sorry
[04:23] <cfhowlett> !ot|W1LF
[04:24] <W1LF> okay i have question
[04:24] <Pegasus-PC> so do i
[04:24] <cfhowlett> !ask|W1LF
[04:25] <W1LF> yea ofcourse i'll do it
[04:25] <Pegasus-PC> i have just setup samba in ubuntu 12.04, the same way i have always done it, i made my shares and then specified them in smb.conf...othere computers on network cannot see any shares at all
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !samba | Pegasus-PC
[04:25] <Pegasus-PC> no it isnt showing up on any of my ubuntu machines either
[04:26] <o------> hi
[04:26] <enquirer> !patience
[04:26] <enquirer> !ubuntusux
[04:26] <snufft> Bashing-om, do you want me to paste the repos that I'm hitting? There's no other real output...
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> enquirer: dont abuse the bot system plz
[04:27] <cfhowlett> enquirer if you have an actual support question, ask.  Otherwise, be helpful or be quiet please.
[04:27] <Bashing-om> snufft: as long as the output of update, has no errors I have no need to see that .
[04:27] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed
[04:27] <W1LF> there's an app gui for it https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/raring/system-config-samba/
[04:28] <snufft> Bashing-om, yeah, neither command has errors. just the usual "Reading package lists... Done"
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> LLKCKfan: you have been told already, your question is not for this channel
[04:30] <W1LF> anyone knows how to make ubuntu theme via GTK?
[04:30] <Bashing-om> snufft: I see then no reason that the "dpkg -P" commnads should not execute, but, let's look one other, pastneit -> ls -la /boot <- .
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> !themes | W1LF
[04:30] <snufft> Bashing-om, here you go :) http://pastebin.com/dWdfPK1C
[04:31] <Bashing-om> snufft: looking at dWdfPK1C.
[04:31] <cfhowlett> !grub > cfhowlett
[04:32] <W1LF> thankyou but i'm searching for education resources, not the theme to download, like tutorials,
[04:33] <W1LF> tutorials how to make a theme
[04:34] <TheRookieLearner> Bashing-om: I solved my problem. It was indeed Wubi specific problem. Apparently, there were some problems copying some files in Ubuntu. I booted into Windows and ran the "chkdsk" utility on the drive in question. It found some errors and fixed it.
[04:35] <Bashing-om> snufft: That looks good to me, see no problem there, how about -> ls -la /usr/src <- .
[04:36] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: Hey, great ! ya do good work !
[04:37] <o------> to install openjdk java 7 runtime  these items must be removed   oracle java7 installer and i cant figure out how to uninstall the        orcale   java7  installer
[04:37] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: For my info, did the resize to 50 gig on the WUBI virtual fly ?
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !java | o------
[04:37] <snufft> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/Tq8PUmCp :)
[04:37] <o------> that what i get in software center
[04:37] <Bashing-om> snufft: looking at Tq8PUmCp .
[04:38] <o------> how do i uninstall the installer
[04:39] <orangey> hello all!
[04:39] <monkeyhat> hey RahulAN, guvcview is available in the software respository, it does avi format and lets you choose your codec to encode.
[04:39] <orangey> what's the ubuntu touch channel?
[04:39] <orangey> I'm trying to figure out if ubuntu touch can do desktop docking yet
[04:39] <TheRookieLearner> Bashing-om: Yup. It seems to work properly. I had filled the 50 gigs Ubuntu partition yesterday. (that's why I needed to move a lot of files ). But yes, the resizing went smoothly and I have no problems in Ubuntu.
[04:40] <Beldar> !touch > orangey
[04:40] <x_> hello~
[04:44] <Bashing-om> snufft: Don't see nothing really out of the ordinary, what results -> dpkg -P linux-headers-3.11.0-{13,14,15,17} <- (???) .
[04:45] <Bashing-om> TheRookieLearner: Thanks, filed for future reference.
[04:45] <worfsbrother> Hi, I'm running server 12.04 and am trying to upgrade openssl to a safe version. I keep adding security repositories to my sources (and `apt-get update`) but `apt-cache policy openssl` shows no new versions available. Can anyone please tell me in what specific repository I can find a secure openssl for ubuntu server 12.04?
[04:45] <abram2014> ola
[04:45] <Sonido_mute> tor as I can use my ubuntu one broswer does not work
[04:45] <valeech> hello! is this the right channel to get some help with MaaS and JuJu?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> valeech no.  wait 1
[04:47] <RahulAN> I got a mail that ubuntu one is going to close?
[04:47] <RahulAN> is it?
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !ubuntuone|RahulAN
[04:47] <Bashing-om> worfsbrother: The patch is in place for todays update, what returns from -> openssl version -a <- ( todys's date ? ) ?
[04:47] <Beldar> worfsbrother, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/    see Bashing-om
[04:47] <RahulAN> but why?
[04:48] <cfhowlett> valeech http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/maas  https://juju.ubuntu.com/
[04:48] <Sonido_mute> Need help using tor. or vidalia in my ubuntu
[04:48] <cfhowlett> RahulAN http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
[04:49] <valeech> cfhowlett: Thanks. I have poured over those pages but I am having a problem getting juju to bootstrap. When maas starts a machine it takes FOREVER for the image to be installed and juju bootstrap times out.
[04:49] <Sonido_mute> Need help using tor. or vidalia in my ubuntu
[04:50] <cfhowlett> valeech sorry.  I have no practical knowledge beyond the link I sent.
[04:50] <valeech> cfhowlett: no problem. Thanks
[04:51] <sadpuppy> tails has tor
[04:52] <Sonido_mute> Need help using tor. or vidalia in my ubuntu
[04:52] <Sonido_mute> :(
[04:53] <sadpuppy> tor faq
[05:02] <worfsbrother> Bashing-om: OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[05:03] <worfsbrother> I don't have a standard sources.list, I need to know which repo provides this update
[05:03] <Bashing-om> snufft: See my last .. it is at my getting off here time and retiring for this session, what is your status.
[05:03] <worfsbrother> or maybe I'll just download from launchpad
[05:04] <Bashing-om> worfsbrother: Not good, lemme hunt it up for ya !
[05:05] <worfsbrother> Bashing-om: thank you very much
[05:06] <IdleOne> !info libssl1.0.0
[05:06] <Bashing-om> worfsbrother: Try @ -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/openssl ( if suacy is the release you are running ) .
[05:06] <geirha> worfsbrother: apt-cache policy openssl
[05:06] <geirha> shows you what versions are available from which repos
[05:08] <wangzhonnew> anyone knows how to submit my project into ubuntu repository ( so that apt-get able to access the project )
[05:08] <UbOne> can you do sudo apt-get install in 12.04 live session, it says E: Unable to locate package ?
[05:08] <worfsbrother> geirha: thank you, I know. the version I need is not available with my repos
[05:08] <snufft> Bashing-om, so sorry!
[05:08] <worfsbrother> Bashing-om: thanks, trying now
[05:08] <snufft> that dpkg command gives me 'dependency problems - not removing'
[05:09] <[ghost]> hi there anyone with openvpn experience I could really need some help thank you
[05:10] <Bashing-om> snufft: Uhm .. as a shot in the dark ->sudo apt-get install linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic <- to try and resolve a package management situation.
[05:13] <aeon-ltd> [ghost]: if there is, asking your question straight up would help them help you
[05:13] <snufft> Bashing-om, about 200mb to download :) i might bother you another day once it's downloaded :P
[05:14] <[ghost]> ok sorry new to irc
[05:14] <Beldar> UbOne, open software sources and untick the cd and run a update than try the install.
[05:15] <Bashing-om> snufft: No problem, I will be back here later in my morrow, what might be is space constraints else where that has nothing to do with /boot. have you ran -> df -h , df -i <- to see what the usage is ?
[05:17] <worfsbrother> Bashing-om: I installed the deb from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12 -- the changelog on that page looks like what I need, but the package is the same that I have installed, built on Jan 8
[05:17] <[ghost]> im running ubunut server 12.04 i'm trying to setup openvpn to connect to my server remotely. internel connection works i just can't connect to the internet. i tried bridge but no luck any suggestions.
[05:19] <Bashing-om> worfsbrother: ump ! .. hang on, lemme hunt up source docs for the security update. BRB.
[05:25] <bambam12> Hello
[05:25] <ubunnoob> hi i need help please. my pc reboot and i am getting "BOOTMGR is missing"
[05:26] <bambam12> I can connect tu up to my wifi but can't connect to Internet.
[05:27] <bambam12> tested on Windows 7 no problem.
[05:28] <bambam12> sorry for my bad English
[05:28] <cfhowlett> [ghost] perhaps ask #ubuntu-server
[05:29] <gx> so i recently ran apt-get upgrade, in order to upgrade openssl to prevent heartbleed. since then, i'm unable to login to mysql with ANY user. anyone know what i mightve done wrong?
[05:30] <bambam12> it happened after not use Ubuntu for 2 months due to my Internet connection problem.
[05:34] <sgllghr> So since I just found out about 45 minutes ago that U1 is kaput, anyone have any suggestions for alternatives that preserve directory structure?
[05:34] <UbOne> Beldar: thank you very much
[05:34] <Beldar> no prob UbOne
[05:37] <tarelerulz> I'm running code:block on Ubuntu 13.10 and it loads up find ,but when I try to load a project it goes gray and runs my computer high.  Do any you have that problem ? if so what you do to fix it?
[05:39] <john2x> i'm trying to install python packages in a virtualenv in /var/www/myproject, but I get "Permissin denied" errors (I'm not logged in as root). But if I sudo, even with the virtualenv activated, the packages are installed in the default python. How do I workaround?
[05:40] <Bashing-om> worfsbrother: Sorry, all I can find is update/upgrade to get the patched openssl, which means it is on the servers. How to get an individual file off the repository server ??.
[05:41] <john2x> I've already chown'ed the folder to www-data:www-data, and my current user is a part of the www-data group.
[05:41] <john2x> the problem is that the /var/www/myproject/venv/build folder virtualenv creates is assigned to root by default.
[05:41] <somsip> worfsbrother: the package is the same. It's just been patched. You should be able to install with sudo apt-get install -y libssl1.0.0 openssl. No need to use the deb
[05:42] <john2x> so my user can't build the packages.
[05:42] <ooxi> Hi will openjdk 8 (not oracle jdk, where I can find plenty of ppas) come to ubuntu 12.04?
[05:44] <tarelerulz> Ooxi , I  know you don't have to change ,but 13.10 is great.  Stuff just works now that took me some time to get working before.
[05:44] <Bashing-om> Good night all
[05:44] <worfsbrother> Thanks for hunting Bashing-om
[05:45] <Bashing-om> worfsbrother: thanks, did ya catch somsip's advise to get the file ?
[05:45] <ooxi> tarelerulz I will change to ubuntu 14.04.1 when it's available :) but for now i'm interested on jdk 8 on ubuntu 12.04
[05:45] <Ben64> ooxi: very unlikely
[05:45] <amirchandrapady> hi dude
[05:46] <tarelerulz> Wow , there is 14.04 is coming out.
[05:46] <worfsbrother> somsip, Bashing-om: thanks, I think installing libss1.0.0 (not just openssl package) did the trick!
[05:46] <Ben64> tarelerulz: yep, new release every 6 months.
[05:46] <Bashing-om> worfsbrother: Great, I will sleep better now ! later .
[05:46] <Aki-XchatCrashed> I am having trouble with verifying my pgp key
[05:47] <Aki-XchatCrashed> its as if the password I gave it, is not working.
[05:47] <tarelerulz> It been 6 months. I just install 13.10 couple of months ago.
[05:47] <somsip> worfsbrother: openssl version -a shoud show a build date of 7 Apr, to confirm it
[05:47] <somsip> worfsbrother: remeber to restart affected services, or reboot. sudo lsof -n | grep ssl | grep DEL will list all affected services
[05:49] <ooxi> somsip better use grep -i del, i think the output changed a couple of months ago
[05:50] <somsip> ooxi: been working okay for me on upgrades to 12.04, but noted, thanks
[05:58] <UbOne> in live session minimizing terminal hides it ?completely, alt+tab don`t show it, is it closed or can i call it back
[05:59] <Freddy> hi
[06:01] <karma6969> hi hi hi
[06:01] <karma6969> ok
[06:02] <karma6969> wake up!
[06:03] <bazhang> !ot | karma6969
[06:04] <john2x> ok, gonna rephrase my question. How do I install packages in e.g. /var/www/foo/venv as a non-root user? with pip, preferably..
[06:06] <MrJones> john2x: in an actual virtual env?
[06:06] <MrJones> just activate the virtual env and install... that should be it
[06:06] <MrJones> you may want to ask this in #python though
[06:07] <john2x> MrJones: I've tried that, but I get permission errors about /venv/build folder.. I think pip creates it but assigns it to root..
[06:07] <BobJonkman> Hi: I'm looking at the TrustyTahr release schedule. Is there a template for this page, or a generic release schedule?
[06:07] <karma6969> if i run the disk for 32 bit ubuntu 12, is there anything special i need to know??
[06:07] <john2x> yeah, crossposting there also.. not getting any replies though
[06:07] <MrJones> john2x: what exactly gets you permission errors?
[06:07] <karma6969> i want to run alongside boot option of windows 8.1
[06:07] <MrJones> pip itself or something else you run late?
[06:07] <BobJonkman> I'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule, but would like to find a generic release schedule
[06:08] <john2x> pip itself.. when pip attempts to use the venv/build folder.
[06:08] <somsip> john2x: maybe depends how you created the virtualenv. If you did that as root, that's your problem
[06:08] <karma6969> hello
[06:09] <john2x> somsip: hmm I did do `sudo virtualenv venv`... but if I don't sudo, I get permission errors.. :(
[06:09] <MrJones> well
[06:09] <john2x> should I chown the /var/www directory?
[06:09] <karma6969> how do i remove selinux?
[06:09] <MrJones> then why not chown the folder to the correct use first?
[06:09] <ubunnoob> usr13 i have change it from dynamic to basic using Teskdisk... people should make TestDisk known. I  tried everying from easeus partition and none of them worked
[06:10] <john2x> ok
[06:10] <MrJones> john2x: you should first check what users should have access to you /var/www folder
[06:10] <MrJones> most likely, chown'ing it to something else than www-data (or wwwdata, cannot remember the name) is a bad idea
[06:10] <MrJones> because then your webserver will act up
[06:10] <john2x> question about permissions.. does it need to be chowned to the user? or is the user being part of the group enough?
[06:10] <MrJones> that depends on what access rights you set
[06:10] <john2x> my user ('ubuntu') is already a part of the group www-data.. and /var/www already chowned to www-data:www-data
[06:11] <john2x> ah ok
[06:11] <john2x> so I need to set the group permissions of the folder.
[06:11] <john2x> right
[06:11] <MrJones> yup
[06:11] <MrJones> and then create and use the venv with the user it is intended for and never root, or you will get mixed in root-owned files that break stuff
[06:12] <MrJones> (as with anything else really where you use root on stuff that should be run with the normal user)
[06:13] <karma6969> how about i chown your as if you dont help me?
[06:14] <jeffrey_f> Permissions: you can give permissions to a group  a user belongs or to the user themselves, but take it away from a user or another group the user also belongs in,  then I believe that the user gets no permission
[06:15] <MrJones> jeffrey_f: what? I think that's wrong..
[06:15] <MrJones> as soon as one group has access, you should have access.
[06:15] <karma6969> I thought ubuntu wasnt retarded command line shit
[06:15] <MrJones> like, your user is in 5 groups and 1 of them has group access rights to a file -> your user can access it
[06:16] <MrJones> otherwise every random additional group you'd be in for whatever tiny purpose would break your access rights to the existing stuff
[06:16] <MrJones> that wouldn't make much sense.
[06:16] <karma6969> like your sister is in a 5 way gang bang and i dp her ass and pussy
[06:16] <jeffrey_f> MrJones: How about if the user themselves are restricted
[06:17] <ooxi> hi i have a long running (>200 gib) copy process which grinds my system to an unusable state. I don't mind if the copy proces takes twice the time. how can I throttle the io? I used the gnome copy dialog and thus don't know the pid
[06:17] <john2x> MrJones: ok, i've chmod'ed my folder, but i'm still getting permission errors. here's what I got so far.. https://www.refheap.com/73690 might be I missed something.
[06:17] <starbuck> hey guys, i want to get the new ubuntu which will be released end of april, my question is: is there a good reason to wait till official release or is it ok to get the beta now? will there be esential changes till official release?
[06:17] <MrJones> jeffrey_f: that doesn't matter either, that is the entire point of group rights. only one user can be unresticted, all the others need to be let in with group rights
[06:18] <MrJones> there is no "forbid based on group or user" feature in the basic linux user/group/other management, if one thing lets you in you're in (unless I'm severely mistaken)
[06:18] <ooxi> starbuck, no there won't unless show stopping regressions are found
[06:18] <ooxi> to the contrary we encourage you to test it now
[06:18] <chilly2> Hello :)
[06:18] <jeffrey_f> MrJones: OK....throwing it out there.  I've seen something similar in the past which drove admins nuts.
[06:18] <n4uah> any one from india?
[06:18] <n4uah> :D
[06:18] <somsip> !ot | n4uah
[06:19] <Semor> does a DNS server transfer a public ip to a private ip ?"
[06:19] <n4uah> he he ok
[06:19] <MrJones> john2x: does a manual mkdir command work?
[06:19] <john2x> MrJones: no :(
[06:19] <john2x> MrJones: does /var itself need to be chown'd + chmod'ed?
[06:20] <n4uah> how to chroot the ubuntu?
[06:20] <john2x> do I need to logout/reboot?
[06:20] <bazhang> !chroot > n4uah
[06:21] <MrJones> john2x: no you just need execution rights (the x one) on /var so you can traverse inside to /var/www/
[06:21] <MrJones> and since you can cd inside, that should be ok
[06:21] <chilly2> I updated my 12.04 to the most recent OpenSSL package available (dated 7th April) to avoid the heartbleed issue, though tests against apache still report the server as vulnerable despite restarting the services. I compiled the apache2.2.22 package source manually in the hope it would compile against the patched OpenSSL, but still it appears vulnerable. I am not sure what to do now.
[06:21] <MrJones> (otherwise cd/ls wouldn't even work)
[06:21] <john2x> MrJones: ok. i updated the paste to show `ls -la /var/www` https://www.refheap.com/73690
[06:22] <jeffrey_f> Semor: DNS does not, a router will do something like that.  DNS functions as a domain to IP crossreference, when you type google.com, it translates that to the current IP address.
[06:22] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed
[06:22] <somsip> LLKCKfan: you've said before that you're asking a Windows question. So you won't get help here
[06:23] <john2x> MrJones: logging out fixed it. :) so I guess I need to logout after adding myself to a group..
[06:23] <chilly2> Anyone?
[06:23] <MrJones> haha oh god
[06:23] <MrJones> john2x: I just wanted to suggest that xD and then I thought no, can't be.. lol
[06:24] <CosmicB> I've switched from nvidia proprietary to nouveau, the machine boot's fine, I can see the nouveau module has been loaded, tty 1-6 got high resolution using the nouveau module, lightdm login screen is there, but when I try to login it completely hangs with only the desktop background showing. lightdm logs that : modprobe nvidia: no such module (?) anybody seen that ?
[06:24] <grahamsavage> hey
[06:24] <grahamsavage> i did an apt-get upgrade and now i have no sound
[06:24] <grahamsavage> in the sound settings it just has "dummy output"
[06:24] <CosmicB> I can't seem to figure out wht makes lightdm want to modprobe the nvidia module (?)
[06:25] <john2x> MrJones: heh, yeah. didn't think it would actually help neither. thanks!
[06:25] <vlt> chilly2: Did you try (for a change) with the packaged apache?
[06:25] <MrJones> chilly2: what does apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0 say
[06:26] <Semor> jeffrey_f:would a domain be converted to a public ip ?
[06:26] <somsip> chilly2: how did you install the updated openssl packages?
[06:26] <Semor> jeffrey_f:would a domain be converted to a private  ip ?
[06:26] <somsip> Semor: yes, if you add a DNS entry to map it to an A record
[06:27] <MrJones> Semor: what do you mean by public or private?
[06:27] <chilly2> vlt: There was no updated apache package for 12.0.4, and it says it's compiled against OpenSSL 1.0.1c and thus is vulnerable. This is why I built the package manually.
[06:27] <chilly2> somsip: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[06:27] <somsip> chilly2: this works fine on 12.04 https://gist.github.com/dhrrgn/10125477
[06:27] <OperaGhostkv> don't worry about dns stuff if you are not in china .north korea ,iran ,cuba
[06:28] <Jordan_U> CosmicB: Please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf .
[06:28] <MrJones> Semor: a domain will always map a public/internet ip if set up in any meaningful way, not a local network ip (like 192.168.*). your router translates outside requests against your public ip to any internal "private" ips if you tell it to do that. the domain is unrelated to that happening
[06:28] <CosmicB> Jordan_U I'm running without xorg.conf
[06:28] <CosmicB> haven't used xorg.conf for a while
[06:29] <MrJones> chilly2: apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0 will show you whether the upgrade actually happened to the libssl package
[06:29] <chilly2> somsip: That is what I did. libssl & openssl are at the latest version (openssl version -a reports April 7th)
[06:29] <CosmicB> Jordan_U mabye I should write an xorg conf specifying to usae the nouveau module ... hmm, didn't think of that
[06:29] <MrJones> ah ok
[06:29] <somsip> MrJones: I disagree. It's perfectly cromulent to map FQDNs to private IPs in some cicumstances. I use them on AWS instances and VMs, for example.
[06:30] <grahamsavage_> I did an apt-get upgrade and i currently have no sound... /proc/asound is not listed.. what can i do?
[06:30] <somsip> chilly2: then I don't understand what you're doing with apache then. I followed that gist, restarted apache2 and all is fine
[06:30] <chilly2> MrJones: apt-cache response - libssl1.0.0:
[06:30] <chilly2>   Installed: 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[06:30] <chilly2>   Candidate: 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[06:31] <MrJones> somsip: sure but that's not what you NORMALLY do. also that is kind of pointless since if you need to map stuff to internal things, why not just properly configure your local DNS for some local host names? no need to have an actual existing internet domain for that
[06:31] <chilly2> somsip: When you test your ssl server against http://filippo.io/Heartbleed do you get a good response?
[06:31] <Semor> MrJones:how do my router translates outside requests against its public ip to my local private ip ?
[06:31] <somsip> chilly2: IT seems like you need to test your servers. I'm okay with how mine are, thanks
[06:32] <MrJones> Semor: the process is called NAT, and the responsible specific configuration option "port forwarding"
[06:32] <chilly2> somsip: I didn't mean it as a slight toward you. Just that it says mine are vulnerable despite following the instructions to the letter, as with your suggestions. I was hoping the site was wrong and reported yours vulnerable when they weren't is all :)
[06:32] <MrJones> it maps specific ports from the outside public ip to whatever you configure as internal target
[06:33] <Semor> MrJones: so what is the relation between the domian's public ip with router ?
[06:34] <MrJones> chilly2: output looks like the newest one :| weird. do you have multiarch or anything? or does the apache source code maybe ship with its own internal openssl source code copy against which it links? (I never compiled apache myself)
[06:34] <MrJones> Semor: the relation is, your router needs to know what to do
[06:34] <MrJones> the domain itself doesn't know about that process at all, that translation from public to private purely happens in your router
[06:34] <MrJones> and you just point the domain to the public ip
[06:34] <MrJones> (and configure the router correctly to make the public > private happen when actual requests arrive)
[06:35] <chilly2> MrJones: Your second suggestion of apache using it's own openssl distro was my thought as the openssl it reports in the error log on restarts is not the one installed.
[06:35] <MrJones> chilly2: yea that might be one of the possible explanations. I guess you should try asking that in their channel or see if the Readme points anything out related to that
[06:35] <chilly2> MrJones: Thanks. I'll try that.
[06:35] <MrJones> should be #httpd
[06:37] <Semor> MrJones:If domain maps  a public/internet ip , which is ip of  my server ,then I should do NAT one this server ?
[06:37] <Semor> MrJones:If domain maps  a public/internet ip , which is ip of  my server ,then I should do NAT on this server ?
[06:38] <MrJones> Semor: your server is somehow connected to the internet. if it has a private ip, then that means there is a router where the local network ends (private ip is known up to that point), and the actual internet (only public ip is valid) stats
[06:38] <MrJones> some servers are also simply directly in the public address space with no router and public -> private translation
[06:38] <chilly2> Semor: Yes, map your domain to the public IP, then set nat on the router for port 80, 443, etc to your internal server's IP.
[06:38] <MrJones> so they would simply not have a private ip
[06:39] <MrJones> so you need to do NAT whereever your local network stops
[06:39] <MrJones> that is usually the router if you have one
[06:39] <Semor> chilly2:so my server should have a public ip and a private ip at the sametime ?
[06:39] <MrJones> no
[06:39] <MrJones> that is possible too, but only if your server is connected directly to the internet with no router in between that does NAT
[06:39] <MrJones> again
[06:40] <MrJones> it depends on whether you have a router that does NAT between your server and the internet
[06:40] <MrJones> that can be, but it also could not be the case
[06:40] <MrJones> you need to find that out first
[06:40] <MrJones> is it your home network?
[06:40] <MrJones> or what are you talking about
[06:40] <MrJones> a rented server? personal machine at home? ..
[06:40] <Semor> MrJones: My server can not connect to internet without router?
[06:40] <MrJones> I never said that
[06:41] <MrJones> I said, it depends on whether you have a local network separated through a router with NAT or not.
[06:41] <MrJones> you need to find that out now
[06:41] <MrJones> otherwise you cannot know what to do
[06:41] <helmut_> hi
[06:41] <MrJones> again, where is this server? are you trying to set one up in your home?
[06:42] <Semor> MrJones:if that domain is mapped to a public ip ,who should own that ip ? router or my server
[06:42] <MrJones> Semor: again, that depends on whether you have a router with NAT between your server and the internet
[06:42] <MrJones> if you have one, the public ip ends at the router
[06:42] <MrJones> otherwise, it ends at your server
[06:42] <Semor> MrJones:I am trying to deploy a network to provide service
[06:42] <MrJones> sure but you told us nothing about your network
[06:42] <MrJones> I keep repeating a basic question and without the answer it is impossible to tell
[06:43] <Semor> at this time ,I have no router connecting to internet
[06:43] <MrJones> ok so how do you connect to the internet
[06:43] <tempname> Semor, this is #ubuntu, try #networking
[06:43] <Semor> I am using ubuntu
[06:43] <Semor> :)
[06:43] <tempname> Semor, that's irrelevant
[06:44] <Semor> MrJones:I have my private gateway ,which works on application level
[06:44] <Semor> The gateway transfer packets to real server
[06:45] <Ben64> Semor: you should really be taking your issue to ##networking
[06:45] <Aki-XchatCrashed> GHAHAAAAHHHH
[06:46] <Aki-XchatCrashed> I am trying to decrypt mail using pgp... the passphrase I gave it, is not working
[06:46] <Aki-XchatCrashed> am I missing something here?
[06:47] <grahamsavage_> hi guys.. there's a critical openssl bug out in the wild atm, i've done an apt-get ugprade on my ubuntu 12.04 server but the new version did not come down
[06:48] <grahamsavage_> any idea why it's not in the official 12.04 package yet?
[06:48] <somsip> grahamsavage_: try https://gist.github.com/dhrrgn/10125477
[06:53] <grahamsavage_> hey
[06:53] <grahamsavage_> ok we have 1.0.1
[06:53] <grahamsavage_> dated april the 7th
[06:53] <grahamsavage_> so monday.. is that patched then?
[06:53] <somsip> grahamsavage_: yes
[06:53] <flaburgan> hi guys
[06:53] <flaburgan> I still have no update for the openssl security issue
[06:53] <flaburgan> doing apt-get update / dist-upgrade
[06:53] <MrJones> chilly2: if that helps, apparently apache's configure has a --with-ssl option which appears to control where it gets it from. so worst case you could compile your own openssl and point it to the folder of that I guess
[06:54] <flaburgan> from my 12.04 LTS server
[06:54] <somsip> flaburgan:  try https://gist.github.com/dhrrgn/10125477
[06:54] <MrJones> flaburgan: what does apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0 say? if installed is 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12, then you already got the update
[06:54] <MrJones> you may need to restart your webservers to use the newest lib
[06:54] <chilly2> MrJones: I used to build from source all the time. Was trying really hard to stick with the package setup in Ubuntu this time. Worst case though, I'll try.
[06:55] <grahamsavage_> somsip: ok awesome
[06:55] <grahamsavage_> hahaha
[06:55] <grahamsavage_> flaburgan: i thought the same thing.. apparantly the 1.0.1 version has it fixed
[06:55] <MrJones> chilly2: but from the apache doc it appears it would normally link to the system lib. so that's weird
[06:55] <chilly2> MrJones: I'm going to try it with the command line heartbleed tool.
[06:56] <redhands> how does udev deal with for-example: a logitech universal reciever that remains plugged in? It works when I remove it and plug it back in, but I would like to keep it plugged in.
[06:57] <flaburgan> I already have the update
[06:57] <flaburgan> thank you guys
[06:58] <euryale> hi guys!
[06:58] <euryale> how do i install banshee without installing brasero??
[06:58] <chilly2> flaburgan: Does http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/ show your site as not vulnerable now?
[06:59] <grahamsavage> i did an apt-get upgrade on my ubuntu 12.04lts box.. and now i have no sound and nothing listed in /proc/asound
[07:00] <grahamsavage> sorry be back trying 4th time.. another reboot
[07:02] <leo-cassanova> hy every one
[07:04] <euryale> how do i install banshee without installing brasero??
[07:04] <demoz> chilly2 what is that Hearthbleed ? :)
[07:04] <demoz> heartbleed*
[07:04] <chilly2> demoz: It is an openssl vulnerability, and quite a serious one.
[07:05] <euryale> ok just install banshee using ubuntu software center. synaptic keep adding up brasero also terminal.
[07:05] <demoz> chilly2 thanks for the info,i ll look around the web for more info :)
[07:05] <kurohyou> Hi, does anybody know a good rss reader that integrates nicely with the notifier
[07:14] <flaburgan> chilly2, the link you gave me don't stop loading
[07:15] <chilly2> ?
[07:15] <chilly2> It's just the one on the heartbleed.com site
[07:17] <flaburgan> chilly2, I mean the page loads correctly, I put my site URL in the input
[07:18] <flaburgan> and then, the blue progress bar at the top goes almost to the end but never reaches it
[07:18] <samuel> Hi
[07:18] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed
[07:18] <chilly2> flaburgan: perhaps it's timing out. On mine it comes back right away, alas vulnerable.
[07:19] <samuel> I am new to ubuntu i installed ubuntu and xampp  without any problem now i cant create a new folder in htdocs
[07:19] <samuel> is there any option to solve the issue
[07:19] <Panterh3art> chmod 777 htdocs?
[07:19] <Panterh3art> without the ?
[07:19] <ikonia> no no no no
[07:20] <rww> !xampp
[07:20] <sadpuppy> malware chilly2
[07:20] <ikonia> samuel: first thing to be aware of is that xammp is a self contained lamp bundle - it's not great and can often cause issues that don't need to even exist
[07:20] <Panterh3art> xampp = lampp
[07:20] <rww> no.
[07:20] <Hxxx> why is ubuntu 12.04 PHP 5.3 super unpatched and full of holes?
[07:20] <Panterh3art> yes
[07:20] <Hxxx> :)?
[07:20] <chilly2> sadpuppy: ?
[07:21] <sadpuppy> read only software
[07:21] <Panterh3art> it's been made by the same guys who make xampp
[07:21] <ikonia> samuel: the second thing is basic permissions, before you start messing around trying to create web pages, try to understand basic file permissions, as if you don't when you translate this to a finished project, you're at risk of compromise
[07:21] <ikonia> samuel: if you do silly things like Panterh3art has just suggested you open your whole machine up for risk of compromise
[07:22] <samuel> k thanks for ur response :)
[07:23] <cfhowlett> leo-cassanova greetings.  ask your ubuntu question.
[07:24] <samuel> my path is opt/lamp/htdocs ? is this lamp or xampp i downloaded xampp for linux 32 bit ?
[07:24] <ikonia> samuel: xammp
[07:24] <ikonia> samuel: as you said - you downloaded xampp - so it will be nothing other than xammp
[07:24] <ikonia> which is bad
[07:24] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:24] <samuel> k k
[07:24] <cristian_c> I've chosen recovery mode from grub
[07:25] <cristian_c> I get a menu with some choices
[07:25] <cristian_c> I'd like to enter a shell, but not a root shell
[07:25] <cristian_c> How can I solve?
[07:25] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:26] <ikonia> cristian_c: that's not really how the recovery option works
[07:26] <john_rambo> Vlc video playback issue http://pastie.org/9029461
[07:26] <cristian_c> ikonia, ?
[07:26] <ikonia> cristian_c: if you don't want a root shell - su - $username in the root shell
[07:26] <ikonia> cristian_c: or use the root shell, but be very careful
[07:26] <cristian_c> ikonia, I must be not root
[07:26] <samuel> but my friend has installed xampp and its running good ?
[07:26] <ikonia> cristian_c: why ?
[07:26] <samuel> how its possible for him ?
[07:26] <cristian_c> I'll try with su
[07:26] <ikonia> samuel: then ask your friend for help
[07:27] <ikonia> samuel: xammp does work, it's just a poor product bundle
[07:27] <cristian_c> ikonia, bacause commands must be typed as user
[07:27] <ikonia> cristian_c: ok, so su - $username
[07:27] <cristian_c> ok
[07:27] <ikonia> cristian_c: do you want to explain what you're trying toa ctually do
[07:27] <ikonia> cristian_c: eg: why you are doing this from a recovery shell ?
[07:27] <ikonia> or what it is you're actually trying to do
[07:27] <samuel> i just asked him he said he had not done any thing it works fine i am little bit confused
[07:27] <cristian_c> ikonia, I must type commands without loading desktop environment
[07:27] <samuel> :(
[07:28] <cristian_c> or X server
[07:28] <ikonia> cristian_c: what exactly are you trying to do
[07:28] <ikonia> samuel: then use it - and ask him for help
[07:28] <cristian_c> ikonia, building a software
[07:28] <ikonia> (if needed)
[07:28] <ikonia> cristian_c: I can't offer you any advice if you are being this vague
[07:28] <cristian_c> ikonia, ./configure, but temperatures are too hot
[07:28] <cristian_c> for this
[07:29] <cristian_c> ?
[07:29] <ikonia> cristian_c: do you not think there is a serious problem if you can't even run "./configure" without your machine overheating
[07:29] <ikonia> cristian_c: rather than build software should trying to fix your themal issues not be a priority ?
[07:29] <cristian_c> ikonia, it's a heavy work
[07:29] <ikonia> ./configure is NOT heavy work
[07:30] <cristian_c> -,-
[07:30] <Panterh3art> lol
[07:30] <Panterh3art> ./configure and heavy ?
[07:31] <Panterh3art> is that even posible in a sentence?
[07:31] <ikonia> Panterh3art: yes, it can be to some extent depending on the tests it runs
[07:31] <Panterh3art> true
[07:31] <cristian_c> building qt
[07:31] <ikonia> Panterh3art: however causing overheating is an exteme situation
[07:31] <imghost> cristian_c, why your machine overheating?
[07:31] <ikonia> cristian_c: I would focus on resolving your themal issues before trying to build anything
[07:31] <Panterh3art> but if ur system overheats by only that
[07:31] <ikonia> cristian_c: overheating in the middle of a build can cause bad builds
[07:32] <cristian_c> -,-
[07:32] <Panterh3art> my system overheats when i reboot
[07:32] <ikonia> Panterh3art: please don't be silly
[07:32] <Panterh3art> my laptop gives a screen warning system hibernated due to overheating
[07:32] <ikonia> Panterh3art: you're offering bad information and now making silly comments, if you want to continue to use this channel, please stop both
[07:33] <Panterh3art> :/
[07:33] <imghost> cristian_c, your fan working??
[07:33] <cristian_c> imghost, yes
[07:34] <imghost> cristian_c, use jupiter and see if u can have some control or not
[07:34] <cristian_c> kernel buolding, big software building, is heavy for my pc. Other tasks don't
[07:34] <steinerlein> good morning #ubuntu
[07:34] <Alarm> good morning . i am installing mysql from the ppa repo. my question is how can i install a specific version and not the latest that appears in the repository
[07:34] <cristian_c> imghost, ok, I'll watch about it
[07:35] <ikonia> Alarm: my first query is why you need a version from a PPA ?
[07:35] <ikonia> what's the problem with the version from the main supported ubuntu repo ?
[07:35] <imghost> cristian_c, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[07:35] <cristian_c> imghost, lubuntu 12.04
[07:35] <Alarm> ikonia: apt-get install mysql for example is not ideal. i need to know that i will be installing 5.6.1 (for example)
[07:36] <ikonia> Alarm: that wasn't my question
[07:36] <Alarm> oh, sorry. because some of the versions do not exist in the ubuntu repo
[07:36] <Alarm> if i remember well 5.5 was in the ubuntu repo, while 5.6 i could find it in the ppa
[07:36] <ikonia> Alarm: right, what is wrong with using the version in the ubuntu repo that is fully supported ?
[07:37] <imghost> cristian_c, ok, and which make model of ur laptop?
[07:37] <Alarm> ikonia: i need to follow some specs. its not my personal preference . so i need to download and install what i see written in a guide
[07:37] <cristian_c> imghost, it's an old model
[07:37] <cristian_c> imghost, compaq
[07:37] <samuel> Hi i just fixed it and now it works
[07:38] <ikonia> Alarm: I advise very strongly against this, I doubt very much that it is version specific between 5.5 and 5.6 - however apt-get install $package version=$version should work
[07:38] <samuel> and i just installed cs cart
[07:38] <Alarm> ok great. thank you
[07:38] <virginwithnolife> hello all :)
[07:39] <virginwithnolife> n00b here can i change color of top panel?
[07:39] <hillary> can i install 32bit ubuntu in a 64 bit machine?
[07:40] <ikonia> harttho: yes, you can
[07:40] <bazhang> hillary, yes
[07:40] <hillary> procedure please
[07:41] <imghost> cristian_c, ok, try to install jupiter ok :), heating is mainly occurs due to dust blocking vents, old thermal paste also some times bent pci pins increases temperature so try to stop unnecessary ruuning process hardwares
[07:41] <dannixon_> hillary: Exactly the same as installing 64 bit
[07:41] <bazhang> hillary, no special procedure
[07:44] <virginwithnolife> hi again not trying 2 bug anyone but can i change the color of top panel?
[07:45] <bazhang> virginwithnolife, right click? or get a new theme
[07:47] <zamba> i understand rsyslog is the default syslog in ubuntu now.. but the version is very old, isn't it?
[07:47] <zamba> version 5.8.6?
[07:48] <cristian_c> imghost, ok, I'll look for jupiter
[07:49] <ikonia> zamba: is there a problem with the version ?
[07:49] <zamba> ikonia: yeah, it has no dns cache
[07:49] <zamba> ikonia: so it's bothering my DNS servers
[07:49] <zamba> .. A LOT
[07:49] <ikonia> I don't believe syslog servers should be caching dns
[07:49] <zamba> ikonia: this is a syslog server for remote logs
[07:49] <ikonia> exactly why it shouldn't be caching dns entries
[07:50] <ikonia> has this functionality been added to later versions of rsyslog ?
[07:50] <zamba> yeah
[07:50] <zamba> version 6.3 has a full DNS cache.
[07:50] <zamba> http://lists.adiscon.net/pipermail/rsyslog/2012-February/029513.html
[07:50] <ikonia> while I disagree with it's functionality, you could always log a bug against it and request a package update
[07:50] <zamba> or just upgrade the package
[07:50] <zamba> or upgrade to 14.04
[07:50] <ikonia> is the package upgraded in 14.04 ?
[07:50] <zamba> yeah
[07:51] <ikonia> what version is in 14.04 ?
[07:51] <zamba> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/rsyslog
[07:51] <zamba> 7.4.4
[07:51] <ikonia> wow, big jump, what version are you currently using of ubuntu ?
[07:51] <zamba> 12.04.2
[07:51] <ikonia> it's unlikley to get back ported
[07:51] <ikonia> sounds like upgrading to 14.04 maybe a good move if that package is causing that much pain
[07:52] <zamba> yeah
[07:52] <zamba> it should be more or less stable now, right?
[07:52] <ikonia> I wouldn't do it until release
[07:52] <ikonia> it's only a few days away
[07:52] <zamba> oh?
[07:54] <bazhang> 4/17
[07:54] <zamba> yeah
[07:55] <ubuntu> Test
[08:02] <Chakiral_> Hi
[08:07] <cebor> has ubuntu 13.10 the openssh heartbleed fix ?
[08:07] <cebor> for me its still 1.0.1e
[08:07] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has already been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please *read* it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[08:10] <samuel> Hi can ony one point out an alternative software for photoshop for web designing work
[08:10] <cebor> should i generate new sshd keys ?
[08:11] <Rory> cebor: No, they're unrelated technologies
[08:11] <Rory> cebor: You should restart any web server processes, and re-generate any ssl certificates
[08:11] <cebor> k ty
[08:11] <Rory> !photoshop | samuel use gimp
[08:12] <aeon-ltd> samuel: gimp? but if you ever print stuff a lot of people complain about no cmyk support
[08:12] <Rory> Oh web design?
[08:12] <aeon-ltd> samuel: also the interface isn't great if you're used to ps
[08:12] <Rory> samuel: Best thing might be to install photoshop in !wine or install Windows on !virtualbox
[08:12] <cfhowlett> !heartbleed
[08:13] <Rory> cfhowlett: That's what I'm here for.
[08:13] <Rory> me and my /ssl alias
[08:13] <cfhowlett> hey !ops - perhaps a factoid for this issue?
[08:13] <Rory> /join #ubuntu-ops
[08:14] <aeon-ltd> cfhowlett: it's important, but if it gets patched in a few days for 90% of common services it probably isn't worth the factoid
[08:14] <Rory> Yeah, there's enough horrificly stale factoids
[08:14] <Tm_T> cfhowlett: hi, feel free to suggest a factoid for it for example in #ubuntu-irc
[08:23] <cfhowlett> fair enough
[08:27] <hadifarnoud> how can I just update openSSL?
[08:28] <tadziz> hello. im tring to make ssh with sso using kerberos, but it always ask me for password. if i enter my domain user's password im able to log in. this is my sshd_config: http://paste.yt/p2904.html maybe someone could take a look at it. thanks
[08:29] <pchero> hadifarnoud: sudo apt-get install openssl
[08:29] <bitnumus> patched openssl on 13.04 is vulnerable
[08:29] <bitnumus> is there a fix for this?
[08:29] <cfhowlett> bitnumus 13.04 is end of life = what do you expect?  upgrade to a supported version.
[08:30] <bitnumus> cfhowlett, until i am prepared to do that, is there a temporary fix that works ?
[08:30] <bitnumus> ie, installing 1.0.1f from a different repo or something
[08:30] <cfhowlett> bitnumus nope.  end of life = end of life = no support
[08:31] <bitnumus> anyone else that doesnt just feel like being a moron ?
[08:31] <pchero> tadziz: I think ssh-copy-id would be help you. http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/3-steps-to-perform-ssh-login-without-password-using-ssh-keygen-ssh-copy-id/
[08:31] <cfhowlett> bitnumus best to ask someone other than me.
[08:31] <bitnumus> cfhowlett, roger that.
[08:36] <depesz> how can I make apt-get upgrade not upgrade certain packages? i created /etc/apt/preferences file ( https://depesz.privatepaste.com/34e8bc7526 ) but it seems to be ignored
[08:36] <DJones> !pinning | depesz
[08:37] <depesz> DJones: hmm .. have you seen my paste?
[08:37] <DJones> depesz: Just looked, pinning isn't something I've used myself, hadn't realised thats what you were doing, sorry
[08:38] <dv_> hi
[08:41] <mr_lou> I'm having an annoying problem I can't seem to fix. Whenever I Save a document in LibreOffice it says "General Error". It does seem to save the document, but obviously I don't feel comfortable with this error message. When I try loading the document again, it does load, but again says "General Error".
[08:41] <mr_lou> I've searched a lot for a solution, and there are many forum threads about this error when saving to a network drive. I'm not saving to a network drive though.
[08:42] <mr_lou> I tried uninstalling LibreOffice and installing again. Deleted the .openoffice folders before re-installing.
[08:43] <Rory> mr_lou: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> mr_lou sudo apt-get purge libreoffice      then reinstall.
[08:44] <weedmic> Is macubuntu a theme OR an entire OS I can install from an .iso?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> weedmic you're installing on a mac?
[08:45] <mr_lou> Rory, 12.04
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !mac
[08:45] <Rory> weedmic: Never heard of it, this is technical support for normal ubuntu though
[08:45] <weedmic> no, on a pc
[08:45] <weedmic> http://www.theblogoftech.net/2011/07/15/four-different-linux-distributions-that-look-like-mac-os-x-any-version/
[08:45] <mr_lou> cfhowlett, What does purge do? Remove config files and such?
[08:45] <ubuNooob> c
[08:45] <cfhowlett> mr_lou indeed
[08:46] <mr_lou> cfhowlett, Ok
[08:46] <mr_lou> cfhowlett, Thank. Will try.
[08:46] <weedmic> it would be technical as I need to know if I need to install ubuntu then macubuntu or just install macubuntu
[08:46] <Rory> mr_lou: Try purge and reinstall; if it doesn't work, let me know and I'll try some diagnosing steps
[08:47] <mr_lou> Rory, Alright.
[08:47] <weedmic> i have the answer on source forge found - tyvm tho
[08:47] <mr_lou> Rory, Thanks
[08:47] <weedmic> it is only a theme
[08:48] <noeden> Hi there. I want to update the openssl on my ubuntuserver, but aptitude doesnt find a newer version. I 'apt-get update'-ed already with this mirrorlist http://pastebin.com/XV0p5k4b and dpkg -s openssl: http://pastebin.com/HyvvtPgB
[08:48] <mr_lou> Rory, Reboot
[08:49] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has already been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please *read* it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[08:49] <Rory> noeden: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[08:49] <noeden> 12.04
[08:50] <Rory> noeden: What is the "installed" version as reported by the command: apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0
[08:51] <ixio> !ot
[08:51] <noeden> Rory: http://pastebin.com/Ug3jyi1V
[08:52] <Rory> noeden: Can you please run the commands: "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:52] <Rory> noeden: And put the output on a pastebin for me to see
[08:53] <noeden> Ive done it 10 minutes ago. Here is the output: http://pastebin.com/CtyfZKKZ
[08:53] <cfhowlett> noeden apt-get dist-upgrade ???
[08:53] <noeden> Ah without update, sorry, here it comes:
[08:54] <Rory> Yes, without the update first, it has an out-of-date list of packages
[08:54] <Rory> And it will think there's nothing to upgrade
[08:54] <noeden> I did it 10 times: here is the output: http://pastebin.com/57XDivRi
[08:54] <mr_lou> Rory, Purging and re-installing didn't seem to do the trick. :-/
[08:55] <mr_lou> Rory, I also tried manually deleting the ~/.config/libreoffice folder.
[08:55] <mr_lou> ..before re-installing.
[08:55] <W1LF> hi
[08:56] <Rory> mr_lou: Can you run the command: libreoffice --writer
[08:56] <Rory> mr_lou: Reproduce the issue, and see if there is a descriptive error output on the console
[08:56] <punched> Is ubuntu work bluray?
[08:56] <Eyeball> Is it safe to remove "atop" ?
[08:56] <mr_lou> Rory, Roger.
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !blueray
[08:56] <Rory> Eyeball: I would assume so, since it isn't a default package
[08:57] <punched> Rory What
[08:57] <Rory> punched: what?
[08:57] <mr_lou> Rory, No error output in console.
[08:58] <Rory> mr_lou: Does it only occur in Writer or does it occur in other Libreoffice applications too?
[08:58] <mr_lou> Rory, Good question. Haven't checked. Will check now.
[08:58] <Guest49072> Rory: because i have a problem. var/tmp/atop.d is flooded. suddenly its filesize is really large
[08:58] <W1LF> any web guy here?
[08:58] <Rory> !anyone
[08:58] <Rory> eh?
[08:58] <amirchandrapady> hi
[08:58] <mr_lou> Rory, No error in spreadsheet.
[08:58] <Rory> Guest49072: What's the file flooded with? That might give some clue
[08:59] <Rory> Guest49072: Or if you like, run this command and show me the output: "sudo apt-get -s remove atop" which will show you what would be done, but not actually do it
[08:59] <Rory> Guest49072: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[08:59] <punched> Guest49072: it works
[08:59] <Rory> mr_lou: Does the issue occur for another user on your computer? You can use a guest session to test, if you don't have another user
[09:00] <mr_lou> Rory, Will check.
[09:00] <Guest49072> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7225364/
[09:01] <Rory> Guest49072: What sort of thing is the file full of? To me, it looks safe to remove that package, but at one point you did install it yourself
[09:01] <mr_lou> Rory, Yes, happens for Guest too.
[09:01] <Rory> mr_lou: Oh wow ok... I guess you need an exorcist
[09:02] <Rory> mr_lou: has it always happened?
[09:02] <Guest49072> Rory: how can i view the contents? of a (.d) file
[09:02] <mr_lou> Rory, Yea... do you have the number for one?
[09:02] <mr_lou> Rory, Punched might also need one I think. Weird insults he's posting in PM.
[09:02] <Rory> Guest49072: it's probably a directory
[09:02] <Rory> Guest49072: with files in it
[09:02] <mr_lou> Rory, No, it's a recent thing.
[09:03] <Guest49072> Rory: i cannot cd into it
[09:03] <Guest49072> Rory: i cannot cd into it, permission denied
[09:03] <Guest49072> Rory: using sudo aswell
[09:03] <Rory> Guest49072: use "sudo -s" to get a root shell, and then cd into it as normal. Be careful with your root shell.
[09:03] <mr_lou> Rory, I suppose I could try updating to Ubuntu 13.10 and hope...
[09:04] <Rory> mr_lou: 14.04 is out in a few days
[09:04] <Rory> mr_lou: Could you show me a screenshot, if it's convenient?
[09:05] <Guest49072> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7225379/
[09:05] <punched> 14.04 New and improved
[09:05] <Rory> Guest49072: Right, but what's in the file /tmp/atop.d/atop.acct
[09:05] <Guest49072> Rory: tried using nano, it went all black. what should i use?
[09:06] <Rory> Guest49072: less
[09:06] <Rory> It's probably too large a file to load all at once; less will load a screen at a time
[09:06] <Rory> I'm 99% confident you can just remove that package Guest49072
[09:07] <mr_lou> Rory, Not much to show. It's just a small popup. http://www.dewfall.dk/generalerror.png
[09:07] <motaka2> so, when I run sudo a2enmod vhost_alias in ubuntu I get this error: Module vhost_alias not properly enabled: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/vhost_alias.load is a real file, not touching it
[09:07] <flaburgan> Guest49072, or you can go directly to the bottom of the file with shift + g
[09:07] <Rory> flaburgan: That's a useful one, thanks
[09:07] <Guest49072> Rory:its just a binary file
[09:07] <punched> 99 percent? Then his machine may crash and burn
[09:07] <Rory> motaka2: You need to put your file in mods-available, and then run a2enmod, which will create a symlink in mods-enabled.
[09:08] <Rory> motaka2: You don't put things in mods-enabled, only a2enmod does
[09:08] <flaburgan> Rory, you're welcome
[09:08] <motaka2> Rory Please tell what I should do exactely
[09:08] <Rory> Guest49072: Oh that's odd. Well, unless you use atop (you'd know) then you can uninstall it
[09:09] <punched> !OP flaburgan mr_lou
[09:09] <flaburgan> punched, any problem?
[09:09] <Rory> motaka2: Move the "vhost_alias.load" file out of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and put it in /etc/apache2/mods-available/, then run the a2enmod command again
[09:10] <mr_lou> Rory, Well, thanks for trying. Have a nice day.
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|punched
[09:10] <Guest49072> Rory: Thanks. removed it
 Why you suck a dumb bastard,
 You dummy
 Scum bum
[09:10] <flaburgan> mr_lou, I got the same
[09:11] <flaburgan> thank you ikonia
[09:11] <ikonia> mr_lou: future reference join #ubuntu-ops if you have a problem/need operator channel help as don't need to post rude stuff like that in the channel
[09:12] <flaburgan> ikonia, punched is still insulting me in pm
[09:12] <ikonia> flaburgan: I can't do anything about that /ignore punched
[09:12] <motaka2> Rory thank you it is done now thank you
[09:12] <Rory> flaburgan: Put him on ignore, how to do so depends on your client
[09:13] <Rory> Set yourself up so only registered users can PM you, and never be bothered again :)
[09:16] <bitnumus> HI, i compiled openssl and ran 'make install' but there is no uninstall, how can i link back to the binary from ubuntu repos?
[09:16] <ikonia> bitnumus: you'll need to manually remove the components you've installed and re-install the ubuntu package to make sure it puts everything back in the right place
[09:17] <bitnumus> ikonia, ok thanks, seems i forgot i compiled nginx as well and its not liking the version change
[09:21] <Rory> bitnumus: Best thing to do is just use the one from the repository
[09:21] <Rory> bitnumus: Far fewer headaches, especially for that sort of package
[09:24] <bitnumus> Rory, i did, but it still said i was vulnerable
[09:24] <bitnumus> maybe i missed some processes
[09:25] <bitnumus> Rory, do you have any wizardry to check what processes are running using openssl ?
[09:26] <Rory> bitnumus: Did you reboot?
[09:26] <Rory> Probably easiest
[09:31] <e-dard> Hi, how can I setup unattended-updates to run automatically?
[09:32] <Rory> e-dard: See this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[09:32] <e-dard> Rory: ah thanks. I'm on a headless server (which is actually a docker container)
[09:33] <e-dard> I'll look for a non-interactive way in that wiki
[09:33] <e-dard> can I just run the binary in a cron task?
[09:33] <Rory> e-dard: Sure, you can run anything in a cron task
[09:34] <Rory> e-dard: What do you mean a non-interactive way?
[09:34] <Rory> The instructions on the wiki are for a headless server
[09:34] <e-dard> it's just the files in that wiki seem more complicated than simply -- @daily unattended-updates
[09:34] <Rory> You need to specify which repos to update from, for example only installing security updates
[09:35] <e-dard> Rory: that's not setup for free when you do $ apt-get install unattended-updates?
[09:35] <Rory> It's literally as simple as: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades
[09:35] <e-dard> Rory: yeah so how to run that without needing to say yes?
[09:35] <e-dard> like if you were running apt-get install -y something
[09:35] <Rory> Oh I see
[09:36] <m1dnight_> hi ladies
[09:37] <Rory> e-dard: Well there's a section there on cron and aptitude, or you can copy the file template for unattended-upgrade and put it in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[09:37] <Rory> e-dard: It's only two lines, you could echo them to the file
[09:38] <e-dard> Rory: ah so as simple as $ echo 'APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1";' > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades (with line breaks) ?
[09:39] <Rory> e-dard: wget rory.sh/files/20auto-upgrades; sudo cp 20auto-upgrades /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[09:39] <Rory> Escaping all those quotes and backticks might get annoying
[09:39] <e-dard> cool
[09:39] <e-dard> thanks
[09:39] <Rory> np
[09:39] <Keba> hi there
[09:40] <Rory> Hello Keba
[09:42] <Keba> I want to install Ubuntu 12.04, but I have neither an USB drive nor a CD available. I do have network connection (WLAN only) and a running Arch Linux (but sadly no seperate /boot), which should be replaced by Ubuntu. I also have Windows 7. How to install Ubuntu?
[09:42] <chrono> Keba:
[09:43] <chrono> get a damn cd
[09:43] <chrono> or usb drive
[09:43] <chrono> problem solved
[09:43] <chrono> lol
[09:43] <chrono> don't complicate the easiest tasks
[09:43] <Rory> Keba: Honestly, it's going to be way easier to just borrow a flash drive off someone
[09:43] <yello> your not geting my drive
[09:44] <Keba> thats sad, but thanks :)
[09:44] <yello> hi LeMike
[09:44] <Rory> Keba: It is presumably possible, but would require you to set up a PXE boot system which is already more of a pain than finding a flash drive
[09:44] <JediMaster> On 13.10, why do I have to reinstall plymouth every time I reboot to get it to successfully reboot into X?  It's the only thing that seems to stop the following error on the terminal/syslog: INFO: task plymouthd:235 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[09:45]  * yello is listening to Dead Kennedys - Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death
[09:45] <Rory> !ot > yello
[09:46] <JediMaster> yello,  we don't really need to know what you're listening to
[09:47] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed? I install my touchpad mouse driver and sometimes it install sometimes not then if it does install after a couple restarts it dsappears from device manager again and does not work
[09:48] <Ben64> LLKCKfan: STOP ASKING THAT HERE
[09:48] <bazhang> LLKCKfan, in windows?
[09:48] <Rory> LLKCKfan: /join ##windows
[09:48] <__machine> trying to fix heartbleed on 12.04 lts… i did sudo aptitude update then sudo aptitude upgrade openssl … now it says i have 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12 which http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ says is the patched version… im running nginx also upgraded from aptitude and it isnt statically linked to openssl… but the http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/ test site still says my site is vulnerable… i restarted the whole server… wh
[09:50] <cfhowlett> __machine confirm this in the server channel, but it seems that the heartbleed update works even though the numbering doesn't accurately reflect the patch
[09:50] <Rory> cfhowlett: He's saying an actual vulnerability tester is saying his server is vulnerable
[09:50] <Rory> cfhowlett: Not just version string checking
[09:51] <cfhowlett> Rory ah.  OK.  Still over my head so someone smarter than me ( you know who you are! ), please jump in.
[09:52] <Rory> __machine: I believe the package is libssl1.0.0 can you try "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libssl1.0.0" just to rule that out?
[09:52] <Ben64> __machine: curious, why aptitude instead of apt-get?
[09:53] <__machine> Ben64: i dont know… is apt-get preferable?
[09:53] <Ben64> __machine: yeah it is, wouldn't cause ssl to not upgrade though
[09:53] <Rory> There was a time when aptitude was recommended over apt-get because it had more features, but now apt-get is similar. People who learned Debian/Ubuntu during that time tend to still use aptitude
[09:53] <__machine> why is it preferable?
[09:53] <Ben64> aptitude can have problems with multiarch
[09:54] <Rory> apt-get is more universal and the output is saner (imo)
[09:54] <Ben64> and i think rory is correct, pretty sure its libssl, not openssl
[09:54] <Rory> __machine: humour me and run those commands, see what happens
[09:58] <__machine> Rory: i ran those and restarted nginx but it still says vulnerable… do i need to restart the whole server?
[09:59] <Rory> __machine: If that's an option, then I'd recommend it, as it guarentees all services will restart (if your server is robustly set up and can take a reboot in its stride)
[10:00] <e-dard> What process does cron run under?
[10:00] <Rory> e-dard: cron
[10:00] <e-dard> Rory: I mean service, I guess.
[10:00] <e-dard> I've installed it, but can't see any notion of it running (docker container)
[10:00] <Rory> e-dard: cron is installed by default on ubuntu
[10:00] <Rory> e-dard: What did you do to install it?
[10:01] <e-dard> apt-get install cron
[10:01] <e-dard> this isn't default ubuntu
[10:01] <Rory> and it wasn't already installed?
[10:01] <pchero> Hello, is there good file-recovery tools on ubuntu for suggest?
[10:01] <Rory> e-dard: What Ubuntu is it?
[10:01] <Rory> pchero: testdisk
[10:01] <pchero> ubuntu-13.10 64bit
[10:01] <Rory> e-dard: sudo ps aux | grep cr[o]n
[10:01] <pchero> Rory: Thanx :)
[10:02] <e-dard> Rory: it's an ubuntu 12.04 modified to not run upstart
[10:02] <e-dard> so it's completely bare
[10:02] <Rory> e-dard: That sounds incredibly not-supported :P
[10:02] <e-dard> lol
[10:02] <__machine> Rory: that seems to have done it! thanks!
[10:02] <Rory> e-dard: But the cron daemon runs as root, the process is called cron: here's the output of the above command on my machine
[10:02] <Rory> root      3935  0.0  0.0  25800   520 ?        Ss   Mar28   0:16 cron
[10:03] <e-dard> Rory: yeah it's not there
[10:03] <e-dard> but what I think I can do is maybe just run crontab
[10:03] <Rory> e-dard: sudo /etc/init.d/cron start ?
[10:05] <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed? I install my touchpad mouse driver and sometimes it install sometimes not then if it does install after a couple restarts it dsappears from device manager again and does not work
[10:05] <Rory> LLKCKfan: /join ##windows
[10:05] <Rory> Someone ban that muppet
[10:12] <cloneG> hello I am trying to install the proper drivers on an old toshiba laptop...it was initially precofigured for windows xp and now that support is over I installed a lubuntu 12.04, the point is I knew this project: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install that I know it works for I used it succesfully on an old pentium 4 but it is not launching the installation guide...I guess it is because lubuntu does not use gno
[10:12] <cloneG> me3 any help?
[10:13] <Rory> cloneG: Go to Software and Updates in System Settings. Click the Additional Drivers tab, and select the AMD graphics driver, then click Apply
[10:13] <bazhang> what card cloneG
[10:13] <thinknow> How can i make openvpn with .conf and passphrase(when you start it up) and you have to change the nameservers (edit resolv.conf to the right nameservers ) I want it possible to make this happen automatically or permanent!
[10:14] <cloneG> this is the machine: http://www.toshiba.es/discontinued-products/satellite-m30x-144/?service=ES&PRODUCT_ID=100704
[10:19] <Lartza> What gives those "install addon for Launchpad" etc suggestions?
[10:19] <cloneG> Rory I cant find that 'software and updates additional drivers tab you pointed out in lubuntu
[10:22] <Rory> cloneG: Not sure where it is in Lubuntu specifically, there is a #lubuntu channel for specific support
[10:27] <cloneG> Rory i found the additional drivers tab. but after searching for a while a window pop up saying there is no privative drivers on the system and nothing else to do
[10:27] <bazhang> what card cloneG
[10:27] <cloneG> http://www.toshiba.es/discontinued-products/satellite-m30x-144/?service=ES&PRODUCT_ID=100704
[10:28] <humbag> it does not say amd anywhere on that page cloneG
[10:28] <cloneG> it works fine
[10:28] <cloneG> but I was just thinking perhaps an update could be performed
[10:28] <cloneG> if it works dont fix it?
[10:31] <humbag> does that pentium M support pae? does lubuntu have a non-pae kernel?
[10:31] <cloneG> the laptop has a red ATI bumper
[10:33] <Rory> cloneG: Can you please tell me the output of the command: lspci | grep VGA
[10:33] <bekks> humbag: all recent versions have a pae kernel
[10:35] <bleeding> Hi, i'm running 13.04 and i have updated all packages, yet the openssl package installed is 1.0.1c-4ubuntu8.2, which was released in January ?
[10:36] <bekks> bleeding: 13.04 isnt supported anymore.
[10:36] <bekks> bleeding: There will be no fix.
[10:36] <bleeding> bekks: there was a fix actually.
[10:37] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has already been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please *read* it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[10:37] <bekks> !raring | bleeding
[10:37] <Rory> bleeding: There's a fix by OpenSSL developers, but you have to compile it yourself. Ubuntu has provided no patched version for 13.04 because it doesn't recieve updates any more
[10:38] <bleeding> Rory: i was told different yesterday
[10:38] <bleeding> strange
[10:38] <Rory> bleeding: Best to upgrade to a supported version, because you haven't recieved any security updates since Jan
[10:38] <bekks> bleeding: According to all official Ubuntu news, there was no fix end of life versions.
[10:38] <bleeding> i was told even 13.04 was pushed a patch for 1.0.1c
[10:38] <bekks> bleeding: Someone fooled you.
[10:38] <Rory> bleeding: The gospel is the link here: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[10:38] <Rory> bleeding: That's the canonical source, if you'll pardon the pun
[10:38] <bleeding> whats the best way to upgrade to 13.10 from command line?  do-release-upgrade shows nothing
[10:38] <kostkon> !eolupgrades
[10:39] <bleeding> kostkon: seems outdated
[10:40] <Lartza> I just realized my server is 13.04
[10:40] <Lartza> :S
[10:40] <bekks> bleeding: that link is current.
[10:40] <bekks> bleeding: the other alterbative is to reinstall a supported version.
[10:43] <bleeding> bekks: what about from command line
[10:43] <bleeding> what package is do-release-upgrade a part of ?
[10:43] <bekks> bleeding: read the link given please.
[10:44] <bekks> bleeding: just running do-release-upgrade isnt enough.
[10:44] <bleeding> bekks, that command isnt even found, what package is it from ?
[10:45] <Lakii> [;
[10:47] <miserias> #PONFERRADA
[10:48] <odinsbane> Hello, I want to get a usb3 enclosure for my hdd. Can anybody recommend a brand they've had success with? The nextstar one I purchased does not work with linux. Now it has died and it does not work with anything.
[10:48] <cloneG> Rory lspci | grep vga returned nothing I used sudo lshw -C video instead and this was the output: AMD/ATI RV350/M10 Mobility Radeon 9600 Pro turbo
[10:48] <cloneG> among other info
[10:48] <bekks> !ot | odinsbane
[10:49] <bekks> odinsbane: ou may ask in ##hardware e.g.
[10:49] <odinsbane> ubuntu users don't use HDD enclosures?
[10:50] <bekks> odinsbane: It isnt an ubuntu support question, but a "which hardware shall I get" issue.
[10:50] <odinsbane> bekks: I want hardware that works with ubuntu.
[10:50] <bekks> !hcl | odinsbane
[10:50] <cloneG> Rory how can I tell whether that output I got is from a bad installed controller or from the graphics card itself?
[10:51] <cloneG> being it bad installed
[10:51] <Rory> cloneG: Is there a specific reason you want the fglrx driver instead of the included open-source radeon one?
[10:52] <cloneG> Rory
[10:52] <cloneG> Rory no
[10:52] <Rory> cloneG: OK so if it isn't broke, don't fix it
[10:52] <cloneG> Rory Iol
[10:53] <Rory> Seriously, in my experience the included driver is more robust than the fglrx one, unless you plan to do gaming. And I doubt you'll be doing much gaming on that
[10:54] <cloneG> Rory after boosting ram with a couple of new memory cards I just wanted to improve graphics aswell...I thought perhaps this project would help: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install and I was deceived not being able to run the installed under lubuntu
[10:54] <cloneG> installer*
[10:55] <Rory> cloneG: I think your card would be covered by the legacy fglrx driver anyway
[10:55] <Rory> cloneG: So those instructions don't even apply to your hardware
[10:55] <cloneG> Rory yep its ancient
[10:55] <cloneG> Rory but it works
[10:55] <Rory> Installing the AMD driver for a 10-year-old mobile graphics chip isn't going to boost performance beyond what you're already getting from the open-source one
[10:56] <cloneG> Rory okay
[10:56] <haxmb> hey guys
[10:56] <Rory> Hello haxmb
[10:56] <cloneG> Rory thanks for your chat
[10:56] <haxmb> i’m looking for help with vsftpd on ubuntu 13.10
[10:56] <haxmb> i just can’t seem to be able to get it to work properly :(
[10:56] <Rory> haxmb: Can you explain in more detail?
[10:57] <haxmb> I will Rory
[10:57] <haxmb> i’ve followed several tutorials/guides
[10:57] <jellow> I want deja-dup to backup to a mounted nfs file but I don't want it to backup if the file is not mounted , How do I do this ?
[10:57] <haxmb> but they all result in not being able to login on my ftp server
[10:58] <bekks> jellow: nfs doesnt mount files.
[10:58] <bekks> haxmb: This one is the official guide which works: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[10:58] <haxmb> oh, cool. i’ll try that one
[10:59] <jellow> bekks, I'm not hot on the terminology, Nfs needs a location to "mount" too in fstab , if you get what I'm trying to say
[10:59] <bekks> jellow: You need to be hot on terminology, since you want people to understand you ;)
[10:59] <bekks> jellow: nfs mounts a share to a mountpoint.
[11:01] <fiet> It looks like the versioninformation for the new openssl package is wrong. Date is still 2012. Is this correct?
[11:02] <bekks> fiet: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[11:02] <indn1234> hi
[11:02] <jnhghy> hi
[11:03] <fiet> bekks: Thanks. that is the package I installed. The version information is 2 years old though. It looks like the update is OK apart from that.
[11:03] <indn1234> Is shameless self promotion an acceptable practise in here?
[11:03] <Rory> indn1234: No
[11:03] <Rory> !ot
[11:03] <indn1234> cuz I want to shamelessly self promote an app that I created.
[11:04] <fiet> OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[11:04] <Rory> cool, /join #ind1234 and do it in there
[11:04] <indn1234> Rory: you forgot the n
[11:04] <bekks> fiet: Check the specific version of the package you have installed.
[11:04] <linux_> hi evrybody. every time I want to run a "deb installed" sh file application (like tor browser, or aphoto) it opens with gedit instead of executing the file
[11:04] <Rory> indn1234: Sorry, my mistake.
[11:04] <indn1234> Rory: forgiven.
[11:04] <bekks> linux_: You have to install the .deb before.
[11:04] <bekks> linux_: Thats why gdebi starts.
[11:05] <indn1234> Okay serious quesiton, is open office or Libre Office really a good alternative to MS Office?
[11:05] <indn1234> As in, will the formatting and everything match perfectly ?
[11:05] <linux_> bekks I do that... but after installation, the sh file runs with GEDIT (not gdbei)
[11:05] <Rory> indn1234: No
[11:05] <fiet> bekks: I did. That is correct. It's just the version info it is reporting. I've installed on a slackware box as well and that gives:OpenSSL 1.0.1g 7 Apr 2014
[11:05] <bekks> linux_: Which .sh file? Open a terminal and run it from terminal.
[11:05] <Rory> indn1234: Only Microsoft office guarentees compatibility with Microsoft Office documents. Libreoffice tends to be good enough
[11:05] <linux_> bekks, I mean it opens in a text editor and not executed
[11:05] <bdrung_work> hi, i installed a linux server with pxe and netboot. when i start the server, it boots, but the tty is not loaded (displayed). the screen got stuck on the boot loader output.
[11:06] <Rory> bdrung_work: What Ubuntu version?
[11:06] <linux_> bekks,  no other way than the terminal?
[11:06] <anna8> Hello, quick question: is it possible to install ubuntu on this machine ASUS X200CA-CT156H ? (I heard something about new windows computers being capable of blocking you from installing a new operating system...)
[11:06] <indn1234> Rory: as in typing in a full college report and expecting it to match with the official guidelines?
[11:06] <bekks> linux_: Nope.
[11:06] <bdrung_work> Rory, Ubuntu 12.04
[11:06] <indn1234> anna8: search for the drivers on google beforehand I guess.
[11:06] <bekks> !uefi | anna8
[11:06] <haxmb> Rory, i did what it said on the ftp server install document
[11:06] <haxmb> and then i get this error:
[11:06] <linux_> bekks, tx
[11:06] <haxmb> 500 OOPS: priv_sock_get_cmd
[11:07] <bdrung_work> When I boot into recovery and then select to continue normal boot, it works
[11:08] <bekks> haxmb: you did what exactly? When following the given link to the dot, ftp works perfectly.
[11:08] <haxmb> i didnt allow anonymous ftp connections
[11:08] <bekks> haxmb: Me neither.
[11:08] <Rory> indn1234: If your college will fail you because of incorrect margins or whatever, then I guess you have no choice but to use Microsoft Office
[11:08] <haxmb> since i dont want that
[11:08] <bekks> haxmb: Pastebin you config and tell us what else you did.
[11:09] <indn1234> Rory: that is not the answer I was expecting.
[11:09] <anna8> bekks: thanks. i am not sure if that is a uefi machine. how can i tell?
[11:09] <Rory> indn1234: I wouldn't want to be responsible for an overenthusiastic teaching assistant with a ruler failing you because the font kerning doesn't match Office 2012
[11:10] <bekks> anna8: Does it run Windows 8?
[11:10] <anna8> yes
[11:10] <bekks> anna8: Then it is an UEFI machine.
[11:10] <anna8> so it will have this block?
[11:10] <Rory> indn1234: You could always try it and see if it looks the same enough?
[11:10] <indn1234> Rory: well I won't be so chosy as to worry about the kerning, but yeah I am worried about the font equality, margins, spacing, and such things.
[11:10] <bekks> anna8: Thats not said.
[11:11] <Rory> indn1234: Best to save it as a PDF then, you are guarenteed the PDF will look the same as the document you were editing
[11:11] <indn1234> Rory: I can obviously, but I presumed I'd find people in here with considerable experience on both softwares willing to help me
[11:11] <anna8> but even it has the block it's a solvable problem (did i understand correctly?)
[11:11] <indn1234> Rory: that's a nice tip. Thanks.
[11:11] <Rory> indn1234: Office compatibility is excellent. It isn't always perfect, and the only way to know is to try
[11:12] <Rory> indn1234: I can't give you any more specific advice than that, because I don't know anything about the document in question
[11:12] <indn1234> Rory: I'm satisfied. Thanks.
[11:12] <anna8> bekks: but even if it has the block it's a solvable problem (did i understand correctly?)
[11:12] <bekks> anna8: Yes.
[11:13] <anna8> bekks: ok, thanks a lot
[11:14] <haxmb> bekks / Rory http://pastebin.com/ZJ7Ryczj
[11:14] <haxmb> that is my conf
[11:14] <Rory> haxmb: I think you're confusing me with someone else
[11:14] <haxmb> ok soz :P
[11:15] <indn1234> Rory: my question actually stemmed from the recent abandoning of XP. I was wondering if it'd be suitable to keep Ubuntu as my primary OS for all intents and purposes.
[11:15] <bekks> haxmb: you should not use the snakeoil certs unless you know what you are doing.
[11:15] <haxmb> okay :/
[11:16] <Rory> indn1234: Works for me, but I don't edit a lot of Microsoft Office documents
[11:17] <indn1234> Rory: okay :)
[11:17] <Rory> indn1234: A good test would be to install it for a week, and force yourself to learn how to do something, if you come across a roadblock
[11:18] <Rory> indn1234: 14.04 is coming out in a few days
[11:18] <indn1234> Rory: yeah gotcha. I prefer LTS though.
[11:18] <Rory> indn1234: 14.04 is LTS
[11:18] <indn1234> OH WAIT! 14.04 is going to be LTS
[11:18] <haxmb> bekks, anything else that isnt right>?
[11:18] <indn1234> ^you said it
[11:18] <indn1234> Rory: hmm. Time to upgrade!
[11:19] <nmvictor> I have my articls in a folder article which I have put in /var/www folder. But I cant access then when I point my browser to http://127.0.0.1/article/article_category.php?id=6&page=1
[11:19] <nmvictor> I have my articls in a folder article which I have put in /var/www folder. But I cant access then when I point my browser to http://127.0.0.1/article/article_category.php?id=6&page=1, what am I doing wrong?
[11:19] <Rory> indn1234: if you want to upgrade to 14.04 before release day, use update-manager -d
[11:19] <Rory> nmvictor: What web server program are you using?
[11:20] <indn1234> Rory: I DID NOT know that. Thanks
[11:20] <nmvictor> Hi Rory, thanks. I am using apache2
[11:21] <Rory> nmvictor: what is article_category etc? is that wordpress?
[11:21] <nmvictor> Rory: no, just a php file to add new articles
[11:22] <Rory> nmvictor: Are you following some instructions?
[11:22] <Rory> nmvictor: When you browse to the link you said, it will try to access /var/www/article/article_category.php file, does that file exist?
[11:23] <ikonia> nmvictor: is this wordpress ?
[11:23] <ikonia> nmvictor: what framework is this ?
[11:23] <Semor> DOTCONF++: realpath (file.txt) failed: No such file or directory
[11:24] <bekks> !details | Semor
[11:24] <nmvictor> Rory: ikonia, the articles will be managed from a hibernate java wen app. But thats taken care of, my problem is I have articles under /var/www but cant access them in the browser via http://127.0.0.1/article/article_category.php?id=6&page=1
[11:24] <ikonia> nmvictor: what framework is this ?
[11:24] <ikonia> nmvictor: what framework is this ?
[11:24] <ikonia> oops
[11:25] <bekks> nmvictor: why cant you access them, what happens why you do?
[11:25] <ikonia> nmvictor: what content management / application /framework are you using ? wordpress ?
[11:25] <cptdwarf> @rory: do you have the php lib installed for apache?
[11:25] <idimmu> heh
[11:25] <Rory> cptdwarf: As it happens I do, but I'm not the droid you're looking for
[11:26] <bdrung_work> i found this in dmesg:
[11:26] <bdrung_work> [drm:cirrus_vram_init] *ERROR* can't reserve VRAM
[11:26] <bdrung_work> [    2.286274] cirrus 0000:00:02.0: Fatal error during GPU init: -6
[11:26] <idimmu> nmvictor: what does the browser say when you try that? can you upload a screenshot somewhere or paste the error message?
[11:26] <bekks> bdrung_work: And?
[11:26] <cptdwarf> rory: oh sorry. my mistake
[11:27] <nmvictor> ikonia: bekks java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://127.0.0.1/article/articlenew.php?id=1 , this is what the java application says. and the following is what I get in browser: The requested URL /article/articlenew.php was not found on this server
[11:27] <ikonia> nmvictor: can you please answer the question
[11:27] <nmvictor> idimmu: see abive ^
[11:27] <Rory> nmvictor: What Java application?
[11:27] <nmvictor> idimmu: see above ^
[11:27] <idimmu> nmvictor: thats AMAZING
[11:27] <ikonia> nmvictor: what application/framework/content management system are you using
[11:27] <Rory> nmvictor: Are you following some sort of instructions?
[11:27] <bdrung_work> bekks, when i change the video modell from Cirrus to Vga, the ubuntu server boots correctly
[11:28] <bekks> bdrung_work: Then you already found the fix.
[11:28] <nmvictor> Rory: I am using Tomcat application server. A java application(Hibernate framework) is deployed in tomcat that is supposed to access this articles.
[11:28] <nmvictor> ikonia: ^
[11:28] <bekks> bdrung_work: How do you "change the video model" actually?
[11:29] <ikonia> why are you trying to serve php out of jsp container ?
[11:29] <Rory> nmvictor: Sounds like the application isn't configured to look in the right location (the requested url... was not found on this server)
[11:29] <libertas> hi, I'd like to read cpu temperature from /sys, not from sensors.  What file to check?
[11:29] <Rory> nmvictor: But sounds like it's an application-specific thing to do with the Hibernate framework, with which I am not familiar
[11:29] <trijntje> what is the terminal command to display the long and short  description of a package, like it is displayed in the software center?
[11:30] <tarelerulz> I'm starting to learn c++ . What is the  best ide ? Doe any of you code for windows app , web app ect more then one platform?
[11:30] <libertas> in other Linuxes can find it in /sys/class/thermal
[11:30] <bekks> !best | tarelerulz
[11:30] <Rory> bekks: They got rid of !anyone too
[11:30] <bekks> tarelerulz: There is no "best" in software.
[11:30] <bekks> m(
[11:30] <idimmu> actually there is a best
[11:30] <idimmu> the best is emacs
[11:30] <idimmu> it will write your code for you!
[11:31] <bdrung_work> bekks, i found the issue and a work around. i run this ubuntu server in a virtual machine.
[11:31] <nmvictor> Rory: but shouldnt I still access the same articles from my browser
[11:31] <Rory> tarelerulz: I think the best thing when learning the language is just a normal text editor with syntax highlighting
[11:31] <bekks> Actually emacs can control rockets and space stations but is totally unusable for a newbie, and it isnt an IDE. :)
[11:31] <Rory> nmvictor: It's entirely dependant on how you set your web framework up
[11:31] <Rory> nmvictor: Nobody in here is going to be able to give you the answer you want
[11:32] <tarelerulz>  Well, I know the best is not the right work. How about what you all use
[11:32] <Rory> tarelerulz: Personally, as I said, I use a text editor (Sublime Text, specifically) but there are a lot of IDEs available, take a look in the Software Centre
[11:33] <bekks> tarelerulz: As a "classical" IDE, I am using eclipse - as a text editor, I am using vi
[11:33] <Rory> It depends on what features you value
[11:33] <tarelerulz> I'm using Code:Block right now.
[11:33] <nmvictor> Rory: I realize
[11:33] <bekks> !java > bekks
[11:33] <tarelerulz> I don't know anyone that codes to ask.
[11:35] <nmvictor> Rory:This are just bunch of idlers and wanna be. I am a wanna be trying to solicit answers from some idle Experts.
[11:35] <nmvictor> #ubuntu never changed!
[11:35] <Rory> nmvictor: bye then
[11:36] <shaysteptowe_> Hello I need some help please? :O
[11:37] <trijntje> shaysteptowe_: ask away ;)
[11:38] <shaysteptowe_> I just installed crunchbang linux and when I list ifconfig only lo and eth0 shows up and wlan0
[11:38] <shaysteptowe_> does not...
[11:38] <tarelerulz> Are any of you programmer as job?  Do any of you make app for windows and other os?
[11:39] <shaysteptowe_> I am a programmer
[11:39] <ikonia> shaysteptowe_: we don't support crunchbang linux in this channel
[11:39] <ikonia> shaysteptowe_: try to use the crynchbang support resources, sorry
[11:39] <trijntje> shaysteptowe_: this channel is only for ubuntu and its derivatives
[11:40] <shaysteptowe_> Okay thanks you :).
[11:40] <ikonia> crunchbang support resources,
[11:40] <trijntje> try #crunchbang
[11:40] <euryale> hi guys
[11:41] <thomas> f
[11:43] <euryale> please can someone explain to me why does every ubuntu based distro are always waiting for ubuntu 14.04 to be released before they release their own in example: Pinguy OS, Elementary Isis?? why? if they already finish developing their project why wait for ubuntu?? i dont get it.
[11:43] <bekks> euryale: We dont care what others distributions do, actually :)
[11:44] <euryale> so why do u think they do that?
[11:44] <bekks> euryale: And neither pinguy, elementary, nor all the others are official derivates. So I dont even think about why they do what they do. :)
[11:44] <DJones> euryale: You'll have to ask them why they wait, its not something we can answer
[11:44] <UbuntuUser> Have you any idea where I could find the documentation for the output that UPower gives? Specifically, is "energy-rate" the charging or the consumption power?
[11:44] <ikonia> euryale: they depend on ubuntu 14.04 as a base for their product - as it's not released they can't release their product, however we don't deal with their policy/build/support in this channel so talk to them
[11:44] <euryale> ohh lol sorry guys, im just wondering why.
[11:45] <bekks> euryale: you have to ask them then.
[11:45] <euryale> ok
[11:45] <euryale> i will
[11:45] <euryale> thanks :)
[11:52] <olbesri> hello. I want to boot a windows 8 install iso from hdd. I burned it to a partition with dd and it seems to be using UDF format. I did update-grub but the newly burned partition doesn't get detected in operating system list. Please help
[11:53] <ubuntu-gnome> test
[11:54] <cfhowlett> olbesri so you didn't actually install it to the HDD you just  - what? - copied it to the partition?
[11:55] <olbesri> yes, I want to boot the install disk. I don't have a DVD drive so I want to execute the install ISO from HDD
[11:55] <cfhowlett> !install | olbesri
[11:56] <cfhowlett> olbesri see the first link
[11:59] <olbesri> i'm going to try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2035071.html
[12:00] <Mannen_> When are Ubuntu 14.04 about to be released?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Mannen_ 04/27
[12:01] <Layke> 17th april
[12:02] <Layke> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[12:10] <g0tcha> hey all, anyone know if OpenSSL package has been updated for ubuntu or not?
[12:11] <curver> How do I check my current version of fglrx?
[12:13] <loa> How i can make glob equliser for my sound.
[12:13] <loa> I bought new headphones and have very different sound
[12:15] <ubuNooob> install  VM and use ubuntu or both? why i said both is that I use teamviewer at time to control my windows pc and somethings need files from ubuntu too
[12:18] <Lartza> 13.10 what package is add-apt-repository in?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> g0tcha it's been patched - get the update
[12:20] <g0tcha> thanks
[12:26] <Lysian> Lartza: python-software-properties
[12:27] <Lartza> Lysian, was actually software-properties-common :/
[12:27] <Lartza> that's what I installed at first based on the internet
[12:28] <Lysian> Lartza: ok, I'm on 12.04 and searched via terminal
[12:29] <Lartza> Lysian, I think it changed in 13.10 yeah :)
[12:29] <Lartza> or 13.04
[12:29] <Lartza> But thanks :)
[12:31] <mrjerry> hi, can someone tell me how to just update openssl in a livecd without updating the whole thing, please?
[12:31] <crisobal> hola
[12:31] <crisobal> soy la morsa
[12:31] <Lysian> Lartza: thank you :) it's a pitty they change something all the time
[12:31] <crisobal> I wanna eat lacasitos
[12:32] <jeruga> hi
[12:32] <jeruga> any have documents python?
[12:32] <crisobal> las morsas tienen colmillos
[12:33] <Gavaussa> cristobal
[12:33] <crisobal> yep
[12:33] <euryale> wa\\\]
[12:33] <crisobal> I like ass
[12:33] <euryale> what will be the kernel version for ubuntu 14.04?
[12:33] <DJones> crisobal: This channel is Ubuntu support, not general chat
[12:33] <crisobal> hola
[12:34] <crisobal> sorry
[12:34] <crisobal> When comes the new version?
[12:34] <Lartza> EugeneBandit, 3.13, and #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 talk :)
[12:35] <Lartza> wrong
[12:35] <Lartza> euryale,
[12:35] <gavaussa> kernellllllll
[12:35] <kostkon> crisobal, 17th
[12:35] <crisobal> i love the kernel
[12:35] <crisobal> ok
[12:35] <euryale> ??
[12:36] <crisobal> Any in 4chan?
[12:36] <root> mau
[12:36] <gavaussa> como????
[12:36] <minimec> mrjerry: Short... You cannot modify an existing live CD, but you can create a custom one... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[12:36] <crisobal> quien es root
[12:36] <Guest42215> yo
[12:36] <Guest42215> xD
[12:36] <crisobal> alaaaaaaah es grandeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:36] <gavaussa> quien es guest
[12:36] <Melania> yo
[12:36] <Lartza> minimec, he just disconnected, but maybe he wanted to just apt-get install openssl? not sure
[12:37] <crisobal> I need blood
[12:37] <gavaussa> larzt
[12:37] <gavaussa> cristobal eres del charco
[12:37] <crisobal> viva españa
[12:37] <gavaussa> viva el jesulitone
[12:37] <crisobal> viva el salmonofcapistrano
[12:37] <kostkon> !es
[12:37] <crisobal> leduchamp
[12:38] <crisobal> viva la grasa de ballena
[12:38] <gavaussa> i need stawberry juice
[12:38] <crisobal> semen de toro
[12:38] <crisobal> para todos los linuxeros
[12:43] <onlty> !info apt
[12:48] <Cogito4816> Hey, quick question:  What prefix do I use to get a program to run through xterm?
[12:49] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[12:49] <ikonia> Cogito4816: prefix in what ?
[12:49] <silv3r_m00n> apt-get is failing
[12:49] <silv3r_m00n> W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Cannot initiate the connection to in.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1360:8c01::19). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::19 80]
[12:49] <silv3r_m00n> why is it trying to connect using ipv6 addresses ?
[12:49] <ikonia> silv3r_m00n: that repo cannot be reached by your host
[12:49] <ikonia> silv3r_m00n: because thats there the dns points for it
[12:49] <Cogito4816> I'm trying to re-set up my computer and the VPN startup command needs to run through xterm or it doesn't succeed
[12:49] <silv3r_m00n> the domain is pinging fine
[12:49] <ikonia> silv3r_m00n: that doesn't mean the repo is up
[12:50] <silv3r_m00n> cool, working now
[12:50] <ikonia> silv3r_m00n: is it going to the same ip ?
[12:50] <silv3r_m00n> i dont know, no errors now, just usual updating
[12:50] <silv3r_m00n> but yes the same repo domain
[12:50] <LaurentR2D2> Hello. I have Ubuntu Precise on my server. Where can I find an upgrade for OpenSSL to fix the heart bleed bug. My server is marked as vulnerable actually
[12:51] <ikonia> LaurentR2D2: it's in the repo
[12:51] <ikonia> LaurentR2D2: just update and it will download the update for you
[12:51] <silv3r_m00n> oh yes, i read about that bug in the morning, i need to update my server too
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !server|LaurentR2D2
[12:52] <Cogito4816> ikonia:  did you see my answer?
[12:52] <ikonia> Cogito4816: which answer ?
[12:53] <Cogito4816> You asked me what the prefix I'm looking for is in.  I'm talking about in command line -- I'm trying to get my VPN to run on startup and I need to run it through xterm
[12:53] <Cogito4816> I just can't remember the prefix you use to do that
[12:53] <ikonia> Cogito4816: your question doesn't make sense
[12:53] <ikonia> Cogito4816: you don't need a prefix to use an xterm
[12:53] <Cogito4816> I have a startup command that runs my VPN
[12:54] <LaurentR2D2> I've just tried an update/dist-upgrade. Nothing is downloaded and my server is still seen as vulnerable here : http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/
[12:54] <ikonia> Cogito4816: ok, so run it in an xterm
[12:54] <Cogito4816> But the startup command program automatically runs it through the command line
[12:54] <LaurentR2D2> openssl version : OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[12:54] <ikonia> Cogito4816: xterm is a command line
[12:55] <ikonia> LaurentR2D2: have you restarted your apache service ?
[12:56] <Cogito4816> Nvm I figured it out
[12:56] <LaurentR2D2> ikonia : no. I've just done it and now I have OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012. Thank you
[12:56] <Cogito4816> Thank you
[12:57] <LaurentR2D2> In fact, it doesn't change. I'v seen march upgrade, but it's march in 2012 :)
[12:58] <ikonia> what are you talking about /
[12:59] <LaurentR2D2> the version of OpenSSL is still too old. I have no upgrade to fix heart bleed bug
[12:59] <mikehaas763> Where can I get a list of all the named ports I can use with ufw?
[12:59] <mikehaas763> ssh rather than 22, etc.
[13:00] <kostkon> LaurentR2D2, openssl version -a  check the build date
[13:02] <cfhowlett> LaurentR2D2 https://blog.pay4bugs.com/2014/04/08/howto-update-ubuntu-to-fix-heartbleed-ssl-bug/
[13:02] <LaurentR2D2> built on: Mon Apr  7 20:33:29 UTC 2014. So I shouldn't trust http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/ which keeps telling that my server is vulnerable ?
[13:04] <mikehaas763> LaurentR2D2: You shouldn't "trust" it but if it's telling you it's vulnerable it probably is. You can also download the souce to the go program and run the test yourself from a command line.
[13:05] <phpbot> phpbot, welcome to channel #ubuntu. Try following commands: !Say, !Weather, !Joke, !Ip, !Imdb, !Poke, !Join, !Part, !Timeout, !Quit, !Restart
[13:05] <solteritto>  perdon sorry
[13:05] <solteritto>  si alguien entiende de php ?!
[13:05] <solteritto>  xD
[13:05] <hubert_> !Weather
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !es|solteritto
[13:06] <solteritto>  OK, im'sorry d'ont worry
[13:06] <brisbane> @LaurentR2D2: use https://gist.github.com/sh1n0b1/10100394 to be sure. Heartbeat gives false positives due to load issues
[13:08] <phao> Hi. Alt-F2 brings that custom search from unity, can I make it bring a program launcher, like in (most?) other places I've seen. Like in xfce, gnome, ...
[13:09] <DJones> solteritto: If phpbot is your bot, please don'y use #ubuntu to test it in
[13:09] <drfoo_> greetings, does anyone know if there is an openssl update available via apt-get ??
[13:09] <cfhowlett> DrFoo yes.  first, sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install opensll
[13:10] <cfhowlett> DrFoo yes.  first, sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install openssl
[13:10] <drfoo_> gotcha thanks
[13:10] <cfhowlett> https://blog.pay4bugs.com/2014/04/08/howto-update-ubuntu-to-fix-heartbleed-ssl-bug/
[13:10] <mikehaas763> Is ufw installed by default in ubuntu now? Since what version if so?
[13:10] <LaurentR2D2> brisbane : you're right. using this script, my server is marked as safe ( Server returned error, likely not vulnerable ). Thank you
[13:10] <solteritto>  Gracias, adiós
[13:11] <Rory> mikehaas763: Yes, 8.04
[13:11] <mikehaas763> ubuntu+server that is
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !ufw|mikehaas763
[13:11] <brisbane> also, updating openssl to the latest version didn't work for me. Had to update libssl & libssl-dev as well
[13:12] <ice9> network activity graph doesn't work in the system monitor
[13:12] <Rory> brisbane: the package affected is libssl1.0.0
[13:12] <drfoo_> how do i freeze a version of a package ? I have a squid package that is compiled with differenrt options that I don't want updated.
[13:12] <mikehaas763> I see. Idk why I thought it had been missing from previous times.
[13:12] <Rory> drfoo_: http://askubuntu.com/a/18656/62969
[13:12] <drfoo_> thanks Rory
[13:13] <erobinson> Howdy partners
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> drfoo_: use apt pinning
[13:22] <hasdf> hi
[13:23] <hasdf> I did a sysupgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 over ssh. during the upgrade (after answering with y) the ssh connection broke (on client side). I can now again ssh into the server. What to do? Does the upgrade finish nevertheless?
[13:24] <Rory> hasdf: almost certainly not, best to do an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:25] <Rory> hasdf: And in future, run potentially destructive operations over ssh in a terminal multiplexer like screen or tmux
[13:25] <Rory> hasdf: But it depends at what point in the upgrade process the connection dropped
[13:25] <hasdf> if i login it says "Welcome to Ubuntu 13.10" but a few lines below: "New release '13.10' available."
[13:26] <Rory> hasdf: What happens if you try to "upgrade" to 13.10?
[13:26] <trijntje> what is the terminal command to view the package description that is shown in the software center?
[13:26] <saurus> a
[13:27] <hasdf> Rory, I now decided to make a backup :P need to wait until it's finished
[13:27] <fiet> hasdf: If you have to do the upgrade over ssh, make sure to run it inside a screen. So you can reattach to the session if your connection drops. Of course this is a bit too late now.
[13:27] <Rory> trijntje: apt-cache show packagename
[13:28] <ElysiumNet> is there a way to sort the entries of the mail command by date?
[13:28] <RFleming> Good day!
[13:28] <ElysiumNet> or just show all messages
[13:28] <Rory> ElysiumNet: mail -r ?
[13:28] <ElysiumNet> Rory: I need a list
[13:28] <trijntje> Rory: thanks a lot!
[13:31] <RFleming> zzxc, any luck?
[13:31] <creater> 中文可以么？
[13:32] <Rory> !chinese | creater
[13:32] <cfhowlett> !cn|creater
[13:33] <creater> ok , i see
[13:33] <marlo> what's the story on this heartbleed bug, is there something we should be doing to patch our ubuntu boxes?
[13:33] <creater> thank you
[13:33] <kostkon> marlo, install your updates
[13:34] <bekks> marlo: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[13:34] <cfhowlett> marlo sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade should fix
[13:34] <catcher> Hello, I'm using 12.04 witha GeForce 9500GT.  I recently upgraded my nvidia driver to the latest proprietary (331.49) to get around a bug with blank windows in the stable driver.   I'm loving the driver, except it doesn't seem to be able to wake up after suspend.
[13:34] <marlo> i do that, i'm still on ssh-something-something-e
[13:34] <catcher> I have to ssh into the box & restart lightdm, which kills my open programs.
[13:35] <fletchl> marlo: yes. heartbleed is the worst bug you've ever seen, get to it
[13:35] <catcher> I'm looking for solutions or workarounds other than rolling the driver back or leaving my computer on at all times
[13:35] <bekks> marlo: Then please read the link given.
[13:35] <kostkon> marlo, that's normal, your current openssl got patched not upgraded to the latest version
[13:35] <marlo> oh, then i'm set i guess
[13:35] <marlo> the article said everything prior to -g so that had me worried
[13:35] <bekks> marlo: Then please read the link given.
[13:36] <tonsofpcs> is the updated openssl being released to all versions or only versions 'in support' ?
[13:36] <kostkon> tonsofpcs, the latter obviously
[13:36] <marlo> ...reading
[13:37] <Rory> The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has already been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please *read* it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[13:37] <Rory> while sleep 60; echo the above; done
[13:37] <tonsofpcs> well, luckily I'm running 12.04
[13:37] <kostkon> Rory, :P
[13:37] <RFleming> Any of you Google Chrome users... update your browser.  Several critical vulnerabilities in 33.x have been patched in 34
[13:37] <RFleming> http://secunia.com/advisories/57506/
[13:37] <RFleming> marlo, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least the following:  For 13.10: 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2    For 12.10: 1.0.1c-3ubuntu2.7    For 12.04: 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12    See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ and http://www.heartbleed.com/ for more details.
[13:38] <RFleming> marlo, that lets you check if you're already patched.
[13:38] <Cogito4816> Hey, I'm back.  I have an encrypted volume that I'm not allowed to add folders or files to because it says I'm not root.  How do I prove to it that I am root?
[13:38] <tonsofpcs> thanks Rory
[13:42] <bekks> trijntje: As an example: apt-cache search kcalc | awk '{sep="";for (i=3;i<=NF;i++) {printf "%s%s",sep, $i;sep=" "}; printf "\n"}'
[13:44] <surial> apt-get is currently complaining about an unmet dependency. It is met. How can I tell apt-get to assume as if that dep is met?
[13:46] <Rory> surial: Could you show the exact error?
[13:46] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[13:46] <mitchc> hello. where can i configure window title bars in ubuntu? a while back i managed to hide the title bar for firefox and i can't get it back. i've tried using CompizConfig Settings Manager, but i couldn't find any firefox-specific setting there using the filters
[13:46] <Rory> surial: I ask because it's possible to tell apt to force ignore it, but this could cause more problems than it solves, so I'd like to check to see exactly what's what
[13:47] <surial> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7226285/ <--this is the error. Note that this is a ubuntu bug.
[13:47] <surial> (That bug is already known).
[13:48] <surial> I want apt-get to stop complaining, permanently.
[13:48] <drfoo_> in reference to openssl bug: am i to understand that 14.04 is not vulnerable ?
[13:48] <keevitaja> hello, i'm thinking returning to the linux world and i am just about to install ubuntu as the second os. win7 also present. is there anything i need to know before inserting the ubuntu dvd? will it install bootloader so i could choose which op to boot? last time i used linux it was RH 8.0
[13:48] <cfhowlett> DrFoo ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:49] <cfhowlett> keevitaja it will install the grub bootloader
[13:49] <d33pcode> Hi
[13:49] <Rory> keevitaja: Providing you shut Windows down cleanly, you'll be able to allocate space between Windows and ubuntu. After installation, you will be able to choose which OS to boot each time
[13:49] <d33pcode> Is there anybody who can help me
[13:50] <Deepfriedice> keevitaja, Make sure you have a recent backup and a clear idea on how you'll partition the drive.
[13:50] <keevitaja> i made some free space to the hdd
[13:50] <cfhowlett> d33pcode greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[13:50] <keevitaja> is 50 GB ok?
[13:50] <keevitaja> all my important files are on cloud anyways
[13:50] <Rory> keevitaja: Yes, ample
[13:50] <cfhowlett> keevitaja should be more than enough.  standard ubuntu install runs around 10 gigs
[13:50] <d33pcode> Can I PM you? I see someone is being helped here too
[13:51] <Rory> keevitaja: One of the options will be to install Ubuntu into the free space. This will create a swap and / partition for you
[13:51] <cfhowlett> d33pcode ask the question in channel for now ...
[13:51] <d33pcode> Okay
[13:51] <Rory> keevitaja: Of course, the option for manual partitioning and mount points is still in the installer. It's pretty straightforward. Just the general advice: back up anything on your computer before installing
[13:51] <Rory> keevitaja: But that applies to installing any OS of course
[13:52] <surial> So there's no way to tellapt-get to act as if that missing dep is actually met, permanently?
[13:52] <keevitaja> do i need to do manual partitioning or will the installer take care of it?
[13:52] <peterpervis> is any body able to answer a few server questions? #ubuntuserver is ver quiet
[13:52] <Rory> keevitaja: You *can* do manual partitioning, *or* you can let the installer take care of it
[13:52] <d33pcode> I installed Windows & Ubuntu in dual boot (grub) on my pc
[13:52] <Rory> keevitaja: You'll see what I mean straight away
[13:52] <d33pcode> Suddendly Ubuntu gone mad
[13:52] <cfhowlett> keevitaja it should offer to replace or install side by side with windows
[13:53] <keevitaja> i have dell e5420 and according to ubuntu website it is certified for ubuntu. so i should not run into any hardware probles. last time i used linux i had to write drivers :P
[13:53] <d33pcode> When I tried to choose Ubuntu from Grub it appeared a black screen with a cursor
[13:53] <bekks> !nomodeset | d33pcode
[13:53] <d33pcode> Like a terminal - without commands
[13:53] <marlo> RFleming, thank you
[13:53] <d33pcode> SO
[13:53] <cfhowlett> d33pcode see the nomodeset message above
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> d33pcode: is it a new install or an old install ?
[13:54] <RFleming> marlo, yvw
[13:54] <d33pcode> I decided to install it again
[13:54] <d33pcode> This is _not_ the problem
[13:54] <peterpervis> is there any reason to allow POP3, IMAP, and SMTP on non-ssl ports? I wanna keep things secure and it seems like it would better to disallow this
[13:54] <d33pcode> The problem is
[13:54] <d33pcode> I tried to install it again
[13:54] <d33pcode> When restarted my pc
[13:54] <bekks> d33pcode: State a full question in one line please.
[13:54] <RFleming> peterpervis, there isn't any real valid reason any longer.
[13:55] <bekks> d33pcode: Enter is not a punctuation sign.
[13:55] <Rory> peterpervis: As a general rule, you should only listen on the bare minimum to meet your requirements
[13:55] <peterpervis> ah okay, so best to just keep them as SSL, also, I have roundcube on the same host as postfix and dovecot, it uses IMAP, so i guess I have no reason for POP3 either?
[13:56] <sha0> should i use apt-get or aptitude ?
[13:56] <Rory> peterpervis: If you currently aren't using POP, there's no reason to run a POP server
[13:56] <RFleming> peterpervis, I'm assuming you mean on the internet.  Internally you should be fine.
[13:56] <keevitaja> and ubunti 12.04 is the version to use to be safe?
[13:56] <Rory> peterpervis: Like I said, bare minimum open to the world
[13:56] <alnr> is there a way to get raring to a current level on openssl/libssl? by doing something with repos? (i know its eol)
[13:56] <g0tcha> hey all, if i use apt-get to update my packages, is there a way to see a list of versions ive used in the past?
[13:56] <Deepfriedice> sha0: Whatever floats your boat. The difference is minimal.
[13:56] <d33pcode> Sorry. Im writing from my phone..Anyway: when I try to restart after installation, it shows a black screen with a message: "partition doesnt exist - grub rescue>_"
[13:57] <peterpervis> yep yep. thanks for your help guys! take it easy
[13:57] <cfhowlett> keevitaja 12.04 is the latest Long Term Support version = 14.04 comes out in a week
[13:57] <d33pcode> How can I solve this?
[13:57] <bekks> d33pcode: then read the link given.
[13:57] <g0tcha> cfhowlett, 14.04 is gonna b a LTS ?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !gbrub|d33pcode first, stop reinstalling to fix things.  this ain't windows.
[13:57] <cfhowlett> g0tcha indeed
[13:58] <g0tcha> ah cool.. so it would b safe to upgrade from 12.04 server to 14.04 when thats released huh
[13:58] <cfhowlett> g0tcha right 2X!
[13:58] <g0tcha> cool, thanks
[13:58] <d33pcode> Someone suggested me to do that way
[13:58] <keevitaja> will 14.04 be lts as well?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> keevitaja yes
[13:59] <keevitaja> ok, i think i'll give some time to get mature
[13:59] <RFleming> g0tcha, before you do the upgrade, the only gotcha (pardon the pun) is any software you use that uses a kernel module.  The new kernel is 3.13, and I've already had to manually patch VMware workstation because of the network kernel modules it compiles.
[13:59] <cfhowlett> d33pcode you might try reinstalling grub
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !grub
[14:00] <Rory> g0tcha: Definitely test OS updates on a small subset of machines, or a test group first
[14:00] <ring3> aptitude will install 1 packet and apt-get will install 50 packets
[14:00] <g0tcha> RFleming, ah.. thanks for the heads up
[14:00] <eurythmia> I have an encrypted disk set up; if I accidentally enter the wrong password 3 times, is it expected that I no longer get the screen to enter my password to unlock the fdrive when I boot? (i.e. I can't boot at all))
[14:00] <g0tcha> 12.04 LTS ends in 2017 though, right?
[14:00] <RFleming> g0tcha, other than that, you should be perfectly fine
[14:00] <ubuNooob> what are things to do after installing ubuntu
[14:00] <ubuNooob> ?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> g0tcha yes 5 years support
[14:00] <RFleming> g0tcha, right X3 :)
[14:00] <d33pcode> actually it IS installed...
[14:00] <keevitaja> sorry for all the questions... how well does vine work? i pretty much need only one app which does not have linux version. can i use it with vine? it is business software
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !manual|ubuNooob read the manual?
[14:01] <Rory> d33pcode: My recommendation is to boot from a LiveCD (or USB) and run the "boot repair" tool. This tool fixes 90% of the grub related issues we see in this channel. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:01] <cfhowlett> keevitaja vine?  not found
[14:01] <Deepfriedice> keevitaja, Do you mean Wine?
[14:01] <keevitaja> mhhhh yeah
[14:01] <d33pcode> ill try now @Rory
[14:01] <Rory> ubuNooob: The popular third-party blog "OMG ubuntu" publishes articles titled "things to do after installing Ubuntu" after each release
[14:01] <ubuNooob> what are things to do after installing ubuntu NOT BEFORE
[14:02] <Rory> ubuNooob: I do not personally advocate the reading of that blog or the following of instructions therein
[14:02] <cfhowlett> ubuNooob there are thousands of packages and millions of users and uses.  what exactly do you WANT to do?
[14:02] <Rory> ubuNooob: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/10/10-things-installing-ubuntu-13-10
[14:02]  * RFleming sighs.  I keep forgetting about fsck force checking disks after a period of time.
[14:02] <Deepfriedice> keevitaja, The wine website has a list of reports of how well different things have worked. Frankly though, there is a lot to say for "try it and see".
[14:03] <ubuNooob> cfhowlett set up ssH tunnel,
[14:03] <cfhowlett> !wine|keevitaja
[14:03] <cfhowlett> !ssh|ubuNooob
[14:03] <ubuNooob> cfhowlett at the moment i have to use "putty" to connect to my cloud server. Putty is like a mini version of linux but its UI
[14:04] <cfhowlett> ubuNooob I've never used either so I can only point you to the link.  there are more knowledgeable users here or in #ubuntu-server
[14:05] <bekks> ubuNooob: But is just a graphical ssh client, not a "mini linux".
[14:05] <ubuNooob> bekks good to know u get what i mean by "mini linux"
[14:06] <bekks> ubuNooob: Actually I dont get what a "mini linux" should be in that context. :)
[14:06] <ubuNooob> bekks which context?
[14:06] <bekks> ubuNooob: "ssh graphical client"
[14:06] <Rory> ubuNooob: When you use Putty you *are* using Linux
[14:06] <WilliamDotAT> anyone ever configured the terminal replacement Guake?
[14:06] <Rory> WilliamDotAT: What do you need to know specifically?
[14:07] <RFleming> Ouroboros
[14:07] <keevitaja> ubottu: ok, there's only one entry for hansa in AppDB and it run but this was back in 2008. i just have to try it out
[14:07] <WilliamDotAT> setting it ot a secondary display Rory
[14:07] <k1l> keevitaja: best is to ask the wine guys for support with wine
[14:07] <WilliamDotAT> i edited the python file but that seems to not cause anything
[14:07] <ubuNooob> Rory, yes putty is just doign what linux does in the background but its what windows users. u still run commands using "sudo"
[14:08] <ubuNooob> Rory when u have putty u can write linux command
[14:08] <Rory> ubuNooob: ssh is the only way I have ever interacted with my server
[14:08] <RFleming> ubuNooob, that's because it's just a window to a linux box.  It isn't linux
[14:08] <Rory> ubuNooob: That's because you're remotely connected to your Linux server
[14:08] <Rory> ubuNooob: It's an interface to run commands on a remote server over the Internet
[14:08] <ubuNooob> RFleming its still the same thing.
[14:08] <RFleming> ubuNooob, No... it isn't :)
[14:08] <Rory> OK we're arguing semantics and it's silly
[14:09] <RFleming> Rory, that's half the fun :)
[14:09] <k1l> ubuNooob: you have a whole wrong idea about what ssh is. you connect to a linux server so xyou can use the linux commands because you are virtually on that linux server.
[14:09] <ubuNooob> Rory okay everyone move up. I know what i mean and u know what i mean
[14:09] <bekks> ubuNooob: Please read this before argueing any further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell
[14:09] <Rory> WilliamDotAT: Yeah I found that edit the python file thing
[14:09] <Rory> WilliamDotAT: I'll do some investigating for you
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> ubuNooob: ssh is a bit more than just a command line box
[14:09] <RFleming> WilliamDotAT, http://brightbyte.de/page/Guake_on_the_right_screen
[14:10] <ubuNooob> ActionParsnip i know
[14:10] <RFleming> WilliamDotAT, or use Tilda :)
[14:10] <Rory> WilliamDotAT: I think you can configure Compiz to always open specific applications on a specific desktop http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/how-to-make-application-always-open-on.html
[14:10] <keevitaja> which runs faster (uses less resources)? ubuntu or win7?
[14:10] <d33pcode> awwww it worked!! thank you all for the help!!!
[14:10] <bekks> keevitaja: we dont know how fast win7 is.
[14:11] <Rory> keevitaja: That's not really a productive question
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> ubuNooob: if you connect with the -X option and an X server on the client, you can run GUI apps and they will run on the serve but display on the client (much like Citrix does)
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> keevitaja: it depends on config anmd setup. I can make Ubuntu uses very few resources
[14:11] <Rory> ubuNooob: Yeah I can run "ssh -X rory.sh firefox" and I'll get a Firefox window as if I were sitting at the actual machine (although the actual machine has never had a display)
[14:11] <RFleming> keevitaja, Ubuntu. Windows 7 uses roughly (in my non scientific estimation) 3 times the resources.
[14:12] <ubuNooob> anyways what is the connect to the ssh config?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> keevitaja if you're concerned about resource load, consider running lubuntu or xubuntu.  lubuntu is optimized for lower / older specification hardware
[14:12] <RFleming> but that's Xubuntu, not Ubuntu, so I could be wrong.
[14:12] <Rory> ubuNooob: a good question
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> ubuNooob: how do you mean?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> ubuNooob: the ssh config is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[14:12] <k1l> ubuNooob: for putty and windows questions please see their support. we only support ubuntu in here
[14:12] <keevitaja> ok, thanx for the help. i'll try to install it now
[14:13] <keevitaja> i hope it doesn't screw everything up
[14:13] <RFleming> keevitaja, make sure you read the guides before you start
[14:13] <ubuNooob> ActionParsnip i need to set up ssh using the private and publick key i created. in putty i knew what i was doing because you can set it up without using command.
[14:13] <RFleming> ubuNooob, you need to put a copy of your public key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[14:13] <ubuNooob> k11 i am asking a ubuntu question
[14:14] <bekks> !ssh | ubuNooob
[14:14] <keevitaja> i checked the guides allready. seems to be too much. it would take several days if not weeks to underestand the installation guide
[14:14] <RFleming> ubuNooob, and you need to tell PuTTy to use your private key.
[14:14] <Deepfriedice> keevitaja, You have backups?
[14:14] <RFleming> ubuNooob, you can use PuTTYgen to create a public/private key pair
[14:14] <ubuNooob> RFleming can you run putty on ubuntu 13.10?
[14:14] <RFleming> ubuNooob, no
[14:15] <Rory> ubuNooob: Yes
[14:15] <bekks> ubuNooob: Yes.
[14:15] <Abuh> keevitaja: Wine apps are all installed in a directory structure in your home directory that emulates a windows directory structure. It shouldnt mess anything else up.
[14:15] <ace_striker> hey everyone.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuNooob: you need to generate the private key on the client then put the public key on the servers you connect to
[14:15] <ubuNooob> so why is bekks giving me links to putty?
[14:15] <Rory> ubuNooob: There is a version of Putty for Linux but I can't see why you need it, when you can just ssh
[14:15] <k1l> ubuNooob: ubuntu got build-in ssh. just use "ssh" command
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuNooob: lots of youtube videos for it
[14:15] <mustmodify> Does heartbleed affect a server with SSH but no SSL service?
[14:15] <bekks> RFleming: there is a linux port of "putty".
[14:15] <ubuNooob> i am on ubuntu for God sakes
[14:15] <Rory> mustmodify: No
[14:15] <ace_striker> evening
[14:15] <bekks> ubuNooob: I gave you a link to ssh.
[14:15] <k1l> ubuNooob: you are talking about putty all the time.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuNooob: use ssh in the cli, much easier
[14:15] <RFleming> bekks, really? why?
[14:16] <RFleming> kinda seems redundant.
[14:16] <Rory> ubuNooob: Putty is an application that provides a GUI to connect to a remote machine. It still uses ssh.
[14:16] <bekks> ubuNooob: §see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage." Please read it.
[14:16] <ubuNooob> k1l if u read from the beginning you will know i was using putty as a refer to how i did in ON WINDOWS
[14:16] <mustmodify> Rory: Just out of curiosity, have you seen any documentation on that? Trying to dot my Is and cross my Ts.
[14:16] <Abuh> RFleming: Cause it allows you to store connection info probably.
[14:16] <ubuNooob> guys STOP TALKING ABOUT PUTTY IF YOU CANT USING IT ON UBUNTU
[14:16] <ubuNooob> I AM NOT USING WINDOWS
[14:16] <Rory> mustmodify: Well, if I asked this: "Does heartbleed affect a server with Minecraft but not SSL"
[14:16] <kostkon> ubuNooob, you can
[14:16] <bekks> ubuNooob: Stop using caps.
[14:17] <Rory> mustmodify: Just because SSH and SSL share the first two letters, doesn't mean they share security vulnerabilities :)
[14:17] <kostkon> !info putty
[14:17] <DrFoo> My PC no longer boots... grub gives file not found error and I'm in grub rescue... Can someone assist?
[14:17] <k1l> ubuNooob: then use the command "ssh" like told several times now
[14:17] <ubuNooob> bekks i know about ssh OKAY? i use cap because u keep saying the same thing
[14:17] <Rory> DrFoo: My recommendation is to boot from a LiveCD (or USB) and run the "boot repair" tool. This tool fixes 90% of the grub related issues we see in this channel. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:17] <bekks> ubuNooob: So please read the documents given instead shouting, getting impatient and whatever.
[14:17] <mustmodify> Rory: They both use OpenSSL, right?
[14:17] <Abuh> ubuNooob: ssh username@serveradress
[14:17] <ubuNooob> Rory i will learn to you please. u r the only one that seems to understand what i mean
[14:18] <DrFoo> Rory: Nice thanks
[14:18] <Rory> ubuNooob: I haven't actually been following, can you sum up your question on one line?
[14:18] <Guest73890> Using Lubuntu 13.10 AMD64.  Installed virtualbox but it refuses to boot a 64 bit ubuntu guest OS.  It has no option for 64bit.
[14:18] <bekks> ubuNooob: Ok, you obviously dont want to accept the answers given. We can safely move on, ignoring your rants.
[14:18] <Rory> mustmodify: Heartbleed is a bug in a specific part of openssl which isn't used by ssh
[14:18] <cfhowlett> Guest73890 so use the 32 bit?
[14:18] <ubuNooob> Rory i wil start again so please listen. I have mute everyone else.
[14:18] <RFleming> Guest73890, check your virtual machine settings.  You might not have selected Ubuntu x64
[14:19] <Deepfriedice> Guest73890 Yeah. It's 32bit only.
[14:19] <RFleming> Guest73890, as the machine type
[14:19] <Rory> ubuNooob: If you could sum it up in one sentence it may help to cement the issue in your mind
[14:20] <Guest73890> cfhowlett, RFleming, Deepfriedice:   My PC is 64bit, My host OS is 64 bit, but virtualbox refuses to boot 64bit guest and has no option for 64bit. Why? Shouldn't the repo have installed the 64 bit version of Virtualbox so I can boot a 64bit guest os?
[14:21] <Rory> Guest73890: When you create a new virtual machine, ensure you select "Ubuntu (64 bit)" rather than just "Ubuntu" (or whatever OS you're virtualising)
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest73890: if your CPU doesnt support 64bit guests then it doesnt matter
[14:21] <ubuNooob> Rory I USED to use putty when I was previously using  windows 7 to connect to my server. Now I have just install ubuntu. I need to send up (1) a connect to my server (2) connect to my server using the private key (3) send up ssh tunnel for other applications I will be running such as mysql workbench
[14:21] <Zardoz84> Good day ...
[14:21] <RFleming> Guest73890, You should download VirtualBox from Oracle.  They have a .deb package.
[14:21] <ubuNooob> Rory *set up
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Guest73890 ask in #vbox
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest73890: the application will be 64bit if your OS is 64bit, but if your CPU doenst have the required feature at all, or it is disabled you will only be able to install 32bit guests
[14:21] <Zardoz84> I supuss correctly, that today, many will having issues with GPG sign when  try to so an "apt-get update"
[14:22] <cfhowlett> Zardoz84 greetings.  ask your ubuntu question.
[14:22] <Rory> OK ubuNooob can you first try to connect to your server using the standard SSH tool? The command is "ssh username@server-hostname"
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest73890: what is the purpose of the VM? how much RAM are you assigning to the VM?
[14:22] <Rory> ubuNooob: Once I've verified that is working I can walk you through private key authentication
[14:22] <Zardoz84> I'm getting this error when I run apt-get update : "GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com saucy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5"
[14:22] <bekks> Guest73890: which cpu make and model do you use?
[14:22] <ubuNooob> Rory its working
[14:23] <Guest73890> Rory, there is no Ubuntu (64 bit) option in the setup. My CPU is core2duo with intel VT-x hardware support.   Looks like the repo gave me a 32bit virtualbox.  I allocated 512mb to the guest and 32mb video ram.  I  want to boot ubuntu 64bit so I can test libreoffice for bugs.
[14:23] <Rory> Zardoz84: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[14:23] <bekks> Guest73890: which cpu make and model do you use?
[14:23] <Rory> ubuNooob: OK, now generate a private key with the command "ssh-keygen" if you haven't already done so. Accept the default location, and (optionally) add a passphrase
[14:24] <ubuNooob> Rory I already have a private key
[14:24] <PreSSion> hello! I want start to develoment a tool to be used in multiplataform linux smartphones, tablets and pc, I going to choose Qt, but I need the develoment of the MIR protocol is seriously and ubuntu will abandon this.
[14:24] <Zardoz84> checking ....
[14:24] <PreSSion> and sry for my "engrish"
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Zardoz84: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[14:24] <Rory> ubuNooob: OK, you can copy it to the remote machine with the command: ssh-copy-id username@server-host
[14:24] <Zardoz84> Rory: I'm afraid that it don't fix it
[14:24] <Zardoz84> could be related to the OpenSSL bug ?
[14:24] <bekks> Zardoz84: no.
[14:24] <Rory> Zardoz84: Can you please show me the output of the two commands: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 ; sudo apt-get update
[14:24] <Rory> Zardoz84: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[14:25] <Guest73890> bekks:   Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E7300  @ 2.66GHz (The PC is acer veriton s661)
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Zardoz84: can you pastebin the output of the command please, saying "it doesnt fix it" tells us nothing
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !mir|PreSSion
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest73890: again, what is the VM going to be doing? How much RAM do you want to give the VM?
[14:25] <bekks> Guest73890: The E7300 does not support vt-x so you cant run 64bit guests. http://ark.intel.com/products/36463/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E7300-3M-Cache-2_66-GHz-1066-MHz-FSB?q=E7300
[14:25] <Zardoz84> Doing it ...
[14:26] <Rory> Guest73890: I can confirm, I used to have that exact CPU, it does not support hardware virtualisation and therefore cannot run 64-bit guests in Virtualbox. You will have to run a 32-bit guest, or no guest at all
[14:26] <Zardoz84> Rory, ActionParsnip : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7226453/
[14:26] <PreSSion> thanks, and just one question more, I want to install ubuntu unity8 mir iso, the games and software in X.org will not run right?=
[14:26] <Rory> Zardoz84: Repeat the command for each key which gives an error
[14:26] <Rory> Zardoz84: There are three there
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Zardoz84: do the same command with the other hex codes in your output
[14:27] <Rory> Zardoz84: You don't need to apt-get update after each time, only after doing all 3
[14:27] <k1l> PreSSion: unity8 is only a preview thing so far for desktops.
[14:27] <Zardoz84> ok, doing it
[14:27] <OperaGhostkv> http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/
[14:27] <Zardoz84> 1º and 3º have the same key
[14:27] <k1l> PreSSion: its main focus is on smartphones and tablets so far
[14:27] <bradsguitar> can anyone help me figure out how to print wirelessly from my xubuntu system to my epson xp-310
[14:27] <Rory> Zardoz84: Saves you one command then :)
[14:27] <Zardoz84> :P
[14:28] <Guest73890> bekks:  Ah,OK. Strange because the bios says it has vt-x support.  So the bios is wrong?
[14:28] <Zardoz84> ok, apt-key for both, called
[14:28] <Rory> bradsguitar: Does the printer connect directly to the wireless network?
[14:28] <Zardoz84> calling again apt-get update
[14:28] <k1l> OperaGhostkv: that is already fixed in ubuntu. since 7th april to be precise
[14:28] <bradsguitar> yes
[14:28] <Rory> bradsguitar: How far have you got?
[14:28] <Rory> bradsguitar: What ubuntu version are you using, also?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest73890: why do you want a 64bit guest please?
[14:28] <Zardoz84> Same error
[14:28] <bradsguitar> xubuntu not sure the version
[14:28] <PreSSion> thanks kill, I want develoment a tool and this will be for linux multiplataform, smarthphones and tablets and pc, I will help in this!
[14:29] <Rory> Zardoz84: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update" again?
[14:29] <ries> Hello all, how do I turn off all the animation in ubuntu 13? It makes my system far to slow
[14:29] <OperaGhostkv> yes i know
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> bradsguitar: cat /etc/issue    will tell you
[14:29] <WilliamDotAT> if i did choose to encrypt my userprofile thunderbird mails/settings should be encrypted also?
[14:29] <Zardoz84> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7226465/
[14:29] <WilliamDotAT> same for firefox history etc
[14:29] <Rory> WilliamDotAT: Yes, anything in your home directory, including user-specific configs are encrypted
[14:29] <WilliamDotAT> good
[14:30] <WilliamDotAT> i fixed the guake by the way
[14:30] <Guest73890>  ActionParsnip:  the VM is supposed to run ubuntu 64bit so I can test libreoffice writer/web HTML document designer to see if certain bugs exists like it does in my other version under lubuntu 64bit).  Trying to confirm if the bug is in libreoffice or my version of lubuntu.
[14:30] <WilliamDotAT> just had to edit different python codebase, weird
[14:30] <bradsguitar> 12.04.4 LTS
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest73890: I see, looks like you ,will have to dual boot
[14:30] <Zardoz84> For what I saw, apt-key say that is not necesary to change the key
[14:30] <cfhowlett> Guest73890 not a but.  no vt support means your machine can't emulate 64 bit guest OS
[14:30] <Rory> Zardoz84: http://askubuntu.com/a/1888/62969
[14:31] <Zardoz84> rhanks
[14:31] <Zardoz84> *thanks
[14:31] <sruz25> anyone here tried installing newer kernel, than the "official" one? I'm thinking about getting 3.14, since it has some stuff I could use and it's not gonna be in the LTS....
[14:32] <Rory> Zardoz84: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5; sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 27557F056DC33CA5; sudo apt-get update
[14:32] <k1l> !mainline | sruz25
[14:32] <k1l> sruz25: but we cant support running other kernels than the official ones in here
[14:32] <Rory> bradsguitar: There's instructions on network printing in the Xubuntu docs here http://docs.xubuntu.org/1304/printing-scanning.html#printing
[14:33] <bekks> Guest73890: the mainboard has vt-x support, but the cpu doesnt. both have to have it for running 64bit guests. you cannot run 64bit guests on your hardware.
[14:33] <Zardoz84> Rory:  the solution exposed in the link fixed it, thanks !
[14:34] <sruz25> not really requesting support, just asking if someone here has any experience with it, he/she is willing to share...
[14:35] <bradsguitar> i did that and i cant find print settings there
[14:35] <sruz25> that kind if stuff may be better suited for more "chatty" channel though (if there is one....)
[14:35] <bekks> sruz25: mainline kernel are unsupported, install them if you like, but expect any help in case of problems. And if you dont know how to do so, you should not think of installing them.
[14:35] <cfhowlett> !ot|sruz25
[14:37] <Rory> sruz25: Another general tech chat channel on this network is #reddit-sysadmin which I recommend with the caveat that it's unrelated to Ubuntu, and they allow naughty language
[14:37] <sruz25> thx for tip
[14:38] <HelloWorld321> On the Unity Desktop, is it possible to NOT show Video in the "Start" menu?  (Recent Apps, Recent Files, Downloads) ?
[14:38] <ace_striker> deja dup is asking me encryption password again and again ..does it mean it got corrupted ?
[14:38] <kry> hello all
[14:38] <SirMarky> Hello all!  I am looking for tool to help me with benchmarks and stablity under 13.10 when overclocking my nvidia card.  Anyone have any suggestions for me?
[14:39] <bradsguitar> any other ideas?
[14:39] <Rory> HelloWorld321: Yes. System Settings -> Security and privacy -> Files and Applications (tab) -> Off
[14:39] <HelloWorld321> Thanks, Rory
[14:39] <mitchc> where can i configure window title bars in ubuntu? a while back i managed to hide the title bar for firefox and i can't get it back. i've tried using CompizConfig Settings Manager, but i couldn't find any firefox-specific setting there using the filters
[14:39] <kry>  shell version: 3.8.4 and gnome version:3.9.90 how can i auto-hide the top panel
[14:39] <Rory> bradsguitar: Try asking in #xubuntu
[14:39] <kry> running ubuntu-gnome
[14:39] <bradsguitar> k thanks
[14:41] <kry> to ubuntu-gnomers: can anyone auto-hide the shell's top panel
[14:41] <lifebooka512> hi
[14:42] <kobhqlt> Hello guys. I'm having a problem with ubuntu13.10 desktop I just installed : When i'm using the terminal, sometimes it just stops to display output. I'll have to type a key to see the result. Did you heard about this bug ? I cant find the right words to look for it in google... Thank you very much.
[14:43] <lifebooka512> Hallo Zusammen! Spiele gerade am meinen neuen Betriebssystem und bin hier gelandet. Kann mich jemand "Aufklären" wer hier ist und was hier alles geschrieben wird. Danke
[14:43] <Rory> !de | lifebooka512
[14:44] <kry> hey guys how can i auto-hide the top panel on ubuntu-gnome 13.10 ??
[14:44] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[14:45] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-gnome|kry may be a better place to ask
[14:45] <andreas__> hello! first time via irssi
[14:45] <bshambaugh> JOIN #payswarm
[14:46] <kry> nobody's on ubuntu-gnome channel
[14:47] <cfhowlett> !spam|bshambaugh most unwelcome.  knock it off
[14:49] <andreas__> Iq lakii
[14:49] <toothe> when I did an apt-get upgrade and update, I still see openssl 1.0.1 installed. How do I upgrade to 1.0.1g?
[14:49] <toothe> I installed from the source ,but it placed the binaries in the wrong directories.
[14:50] <RFleming> toothe, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least the following:  For 13.10: 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2    For 12.10: 1.0.1c-3ubuntu2.7    For 12.04: 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12    See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ and http://www.heartbleed.com/ for more details.
[14:50] <RFleming> toothe, there is no upgrade to g, openssl wasn't patched.  A library that openssl uses was.
[14:50] <bekks> toothe: Manually remove all traces of your manual install failure, then read this article: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[14:50] <imprecise> i´m trying to install from the mini iso and got stuck after choosing the country for the mirror... last tty4 output states "net-retriever:"
[14:51] <bekks> RFleming: Thats nonsense. openssl was patched. There was no version bump.
[14:51] <Rory> libssl was patched, specifically
[14:51] <Rory> but the link tells you all you need to know regardless
[14:52] <RFleming> bekks, openssl was recompiled with patched libssl which DID receive a version bump
[14:53] <RFleming> but I'm not good at reading.
[14:53] <imprecise> btw, 12.04 mini iso
[14:57] <keevitaja> hi, it seems my installation went fine. ubuntu is working
[14:58] <RFleming> keevitaja, congratulations!
[14:58] <cfhowlett> keevitaja see?  it's all in the wrist.
[14:59] <keevitaja> lol, is there (i'm sure there is) some site where i can get some info on most used apps etc.
[14:59] <cfhowlett> keevitaja software center
[15:00] <keevitaja> ok, saw this allready
[15:00] <keevitaja> libreoffice is the one to use?
[15:00] <keevitaja> and for email thunderbird?
[15:00] <Rory> keevitaja: Those come with ubuntu already, so theyd be the obvious choices, yes
[15:02] <CatKiller> !ssl bug
[15:03] <ikonia> CatKiller: what do you want to know ?
[15:03] <CatKiller> The info about the heartbleed bug
[15:03] <ikonia> CatKiller: what information ?
[15:03] <ikonia> specfically
[15:03] <Rory> CatKiller: The "HeartBleed" OpenSSL bug has already been patched in all supported versions of Ubuntu (13.10, 12.10 and 12.04 ONLY). Your OpenSSL package will be upgraded, although the version number will not change. This link has more information, please *read* it before asking more questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[15:04] <CatKiller> ikonia: The link Rory pasted
[15:04] <CatKiller> ikonia, Rory Thanks! :)
[15:05] <toothe> followed the Ubuntu upgrade process
[15:06] <toothe> I think I'm good to go, but I don't know hwo to verify.
[15:06] <ikonia> use the system
[15:06] <ikonia> if it works you're good to go
[15:06] <toothe> how to verify?
[15:06] <ikonia> toothe: what is it you want to verify exactly
[15:06] <toothe> per heartbleed, its version 1.0.1 that's vulnerable up to f
[15:06] <RFleming> toothe, run 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' and make sure the version listed is at least the following:  For 13.10: 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2    For 12.10: 1.0.1c-3ubuntu2.7    For 12.04: 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12
[15:07] <toothe> RFleming: I read that and did it.
[15:07] <ikonia> toothe: you install the package, if you installed the package you've fixed the problem library, it's up to you how far you take the rest of the fix
[15:07] <keevitaja> ok, ubuntu is not RH8... the last linux i used
[15:07] <k1l> toothe: ubuntu doesnt increas the version number when pathcing old bugs
[15:07] <RFleming> toothe, then you wouldn't need to ask to verify.  If your libssl1.0.0 matches those three versions then you're patched
[15:07] <toothe> okay, cool. I appreciate it.
[15:07] <alnr> testing link is http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/
[15:07] <bugs_bugger> hi there. does anybody know, how i can see the overall duration of my login session? like uptime shows the time the machine is running?
[15:07] <toothe> sorry for the excessive questions.
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> bugs_bugger: last | grep -i still
[15:08] <RFleming> toothe, ONE of those three versions :)
[15:08] <k1l> toothe: for the future: that is all explained in the link you were given already :/
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> bugs_bugger: or for the last few:   last | head
[15:08] <Rory> bugs_bugger: the "w" command shows the start time of each session
[15:08] <fyfan> what is the script command to create an alias for launching a program with paramaters. for instance if i want to just type ".irc" into the shell and press enter and have it launch "irssi -c irc.freenode.net"
[15:08] <RFleming> toothe, what does 'dpkg-query -W libssl1.0.0' output?
[15:09] <Rory> fyfan: Put a line like this at the end of ~/.bashrc
[15:09] <Rory> fyfan: alias irc='irssi -c irc.freenode.net'
[15:09] <bugs_bugger> ActionParsnip, Rory: thanks a bunch. i've searching for this for like ages.
[15:09] <hillary> any application which allows me to monitor my lan for ilegal  wireless connections?
[15:09] <hillary> ubuntu 12.04
[15:10] <Rory> fyfan: Then restart the shell or run 'source ~/.bashrc'
[15:10] <fyfan> ok ty
[15:10] <Rory> hillary: Illegal?
[15:10] <keevitaja> which terminal to use? which is most used be the community?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> hillary: you will need to check your router logs
[15:10] <Rory> keevitaja: The default is fine. Terminator is my favourite. Konsole is pretty sexy too.
[15:10] <cfhowlett> keevitaja the default already installed on box
[15:10] <hillary> illegal connections
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> keevitaja: gnome-terminal is in a default ubuntu install, as is xterm
[15:10] <hillary> how do i check router logs
[15:10] <Rory> hillary: Yes you said that. What do you mean by illegal connections?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> keevitaja: I like guake
[15:11] <Rory> hillary: That is something you'd need to use your router for
[15:11] <fyfan> awesome, it worked rory
[15:11] <ubuNooob> Rory sorry I had a skype meeting now i have another one. will be back in about 2 hours
[15:11] <fyfan> didn't have to restart though
[15:12] <Rory> fyfan: You don't have to restart the shell, the source command will do
[15:12] <fyfan> figured as much
[15:14] <Alarm> hello. i have checked for mysql the available version in the repository. with this version i have installed also the package. eg. apt-get install mysql-server=version_tag .
[15:14] <keevitaja> ok, now i installed skype and it crashed ...
[15:14] <Rory> keevitaja: Yeah, it does that.
[15:14] <Alarm> my question is , if a new version of mysql gets added in the repo, are the previous ones removed from the repo ?
[15:15] <ikonia> Alarm: the version will not be bumped in the repo
[15:15] <ikonia> Alarm: only minor version changes
[15:15] <ikonia> so it won't go higher than your PPA version
[15:15] <Alarm> ikonia: what i am trying to achieve is to be sure that i always install the same version
[15:15] <keevitaja> lol, crashing normal?
[15:16] <ikonia> Alarm: if versions get bumped in the PPA - it will bump your version
[15:16] <Rory> keevitaja: Skype on Linux is awful IMO. Maybe if you ask Microsoft really really nicely they'll make a better version
[15:16] <Rory> keevitaja: I wouldn't hold your breath though
[15:16] <Alarm> what do you mean with "bump" ?
[15:16] <ikonia> a version increase, eg: 5.6.1, 5.2.6, 5.6.4
[15:18] <keevitaja> what would be the best option to install apache, php, mysql? apt-get?
[15:18] <Alarm> alright, so if install for example mysql-server=5.5.35-0ubuntu0.13.10.2  today , is there a way to guarantee that the same version will exist in the repo in 2-3 months again ?
[15:18] <Rory> !lamp | keevitaja
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | keevitaja
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> beat me to it
[15:18] <Rory> Fingers on fire today
[15:18] <Alarm> ikonia: since the command will run from two different machines, we want to make sure that both machines will have the exact same version .
[15:19] <Alarm> ikonia: no matter if i isntall mysql today on one machine, and after 2 months on another machine
[15:19] <ikonia> Alarm: then install the same versions at the same time
[15:19] <ikonia> Alarm: that's not going to happen then as that's not how PPA's work
[15:19] <Alarm> ikonia:  thats impossible
[15:19] <Rory> Alarm: I suggest archiving the .deb packages corresponding to the version you want installed
[15:19] <ikonia> Alarm: they are maintained at the PPA owners own whim - so it's up to them what/when they bump it
[15:19] <Alarm> i can't be sure that the installation will happen at the same period
[15:20] <Alarm> Rory: we are talking of two difference machines
[15:20] <ikonia> Alarm: make your own mirror if you're that concerned, but as I warned you earlier today, depending on a PPA is a bad idea
[15:20] <Rory> Alarm: Keep them on a flash drive or something, if it's vitally important the same package is installed
[15:21] <Alarm> ikonia:  yes you did. but thats where i can find the version 5.6 of mysql (which is in my requirements) . and since i am creating an automated system i can't go with the option to download the .deb file from mysql homepage
[15:21] <adil> hi
[15:22] <ikonia> Alarm: then you need to create your own mirror, or create your own package, or accept that 5.6 is unavailable to you unless it comes from an untrusted/longevity source
[15:22] <Alarm> Rory: i cant. it will be a VM with all its software automatically installed.
[15:22] <ikonia> your own mirror seems to be the most logical option
[15:23] <Alarm> ikonia: question please. i see also in the ubuntu official repos that only 5.5.35 (mysql server) exists
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Alarm: yes thats right
[15:23] <Alarm> from what i can imagine. this could happen also with the official repo. meaning, if i set my VM to autodownload 5.5.35 from the official ubuntu repo, in a month, it may not exist anymore
[15:24] <ikonia> Alarm: no as in the officail repos base exists and updates get updated
[15:25] <Alarm> ikonia, that means you just isntalled mysql-server and ubuntu updated it to the latest . my question is if i give you to run the command to install specific 5.5.35 in 2-3 months, if this would work
[15:25] <deni> anyone knows what ufw is doing here: http://pastebin.com/SU77UYvv
[15:25] <Alarm> without having any mysql preinstalled on your system
[15:25] <ikonia> Alarm: yes it would work
[15:25] <ikonia> Alarm: as the base version remains, only the updates get updated
[15:25] <ikonia> however updates are not static
[15:26] <keevitaja> how to check which versions will be installed with lamp stack?
[15:26] <Alarm> ikonia: why can't i see then any other version in the ubuntu repo except of 5.5.35 ?
[15:26] <ikonia> Alarm: because there are no other versions
[15:26] <keevitaja> php 5.5?
[15:27] <ikonia> Alarm: the best thing you can do is take a mirror of the package you need
[15:27] <Rory> keevitaja: apt-cache policy packagename
[15:28] <Alarm> ikonia: ok, thank you very much for all this info :)
[15:28] <keevitaja> how do i check it?
[15:30] <keevitaja> is there a way to ensure, that tasksel will install lamp with php 5.5?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> keevitaja: it will install the vesion of php in the repos
[15:33] <keevitaja> ok, there's my problem. taskel will install php 5.3
[15:33] <keevitaja> does that mean that i have to install it manually?
[15:36] <OerHeks> keevitaja, yes, you should look for a PPA with php5.5 or build it yourself
[15:36] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, if you recall, yesterday I was asking about IN_NO_LOOP and IN_CLOSE_WAIT.  Well, inclosewait didn't work.  I just removed the exclusion for !sync files and left IN_NO_LOOP and it worked.  no Nagios complaints that the thing was being taxed and no server crash.  yay!
[15:38] <Rory> keevitaja: What ubuntu version?
[15:40] <zubuntu> .
[15:42] <Rory> keevitaja: You can use a third-party repository which provides PHP5.5 packages, and then install each part from that. There's instructions here [ http://fideloper.com/ubuntu-install-php54-lamp ] bear in mind PPAs are not maintained by canonical
[15:42] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf: great, glad that worked out.  and that was to sync pics off your phone, and then back them up outside of the btsync folder for etc.?
[15:43] <Kully> how can I get both nic's to be up simoultaniously and receiving data
[15:45] <usr13> Kully: They will do that by default.
[15:45] <sudormrf> SchrodingersScat, pretty much, yeah.  also anything that gets dropped into the btsync folder will get saved to an alternate location :)
[15:46] <usr13> Kully: (I'm probably late to the conversation, not sure what you are trying to do, but...)
[15:46] <Kully> ok, perhaps I have a larger issue; I have two nic's, .1.15 and .1.194 on my box; when ever I reboot; it chooses one to have access to the net not both. running ifconfig returns both as up
[15:46] <Kully> any idea where to start?
[15:47] <usr13> Kully: Where to start doing what ___________ ?
[15:47] <sudormrf> Kully, you want to bond them so they appear as one interface?
[15:48] <usr13> Kully: You have a connection to the internet and maybe there is a router between you and it.  Right?
[15:48] <Kully> no; I want them to be seperate interfaces, but I want to be able to get to both. Right now I can ping .1.15, but not 1.194; it's like when one is working, the other is not allowed to participate in the network
[15:48] <sudormrf> Kully, just trying to understand something here.  is this for some sort of network segmentation?
[15:48] <usr13> Kully: Are these 10/100 or 1,000 nics?
[15:49] <Kully> gb cloud nics
[15:49] <bekks> What are "cloud nics"?
[15:49] <Kully> web server instance, it's all virtual.
[15:49] <usr13> Kully: What do you want the other one to do?
[15:49] <sudormrf> bekks, nics that float in the clouds.  what else? :P
[15:50] <sudormrf> Kully, could you provide a bit more background?  why do you want to pass traffic independantly?
[15:50] <usr13> Kully: Are they two separate hardware devices?  (I do not understand "cloud nics" either.)
[15:50] <Kully> moving our webserver to the cloud; it's currently configured with 13 ip's
[15:51] <sudormrf> Kully, http://askubuntu.com/questions/310355/networking-with-multiple-nics
[15:51] <bekks> Kully: And what are you trying to do now? You have 13 IPs on a webserver.
[15:51] <sudormrf> does that help?
[15:51] <usr13> Kully: how much bandwidth ?
[15:51] <Kully> it's called an "elastic network interface", but cloud nic is easier to say. sorry
[15:51] <Kully> 10-100gb/mo
[15:52] <sudormrf> so this is an EC2
[15:52] <Kully> yes
[15:52] <sudormrf> Kully, did you see that link?"
[15:52] <usr13> Kully: I'm not asking about a cap, but what is the bandwidth of the connection.
[15:52] <Kully> yeah reading through it now
[15:52] <jjavaholic> what is the alias for glibc in synaptic?
[15:53] <Kully> connection is 10/100
[15:53] <usr13> Kully: Use alias's
[15:53] <sudormrf> Kully, this one also talks about it, but doesn't look like there is an answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/225466/second-nic-on-dual-homed-server-not-working
[15:53] <sudormrf> that link looks like the person is having the exact same issue as you.
[15:54] <sudormrf> it is likely a routing issue
[15:54] <Kully> ok i'll check my routes. It's just confusing because i'll reboot and then it won't come back up and it scares me untill I figure out that it just hit the wrong ip... then I have to figure out what ip it's using etc. PITA
[15:54] <usr13> Kully: Like  ifconfig eth0:1 10.5.5.1 ; ifconfig eth0:2 10.5.5.2  etc. etc.
[15:55] <Kully> yeah I'll be doing that eventually; I can only have 6 ip's per nic though, so I still need multiple nics
[15:55] <usr13> Kully: Just run them all through one interface.
[15:55] <Kully> can't due to limitations of amazon
[15:55] <Kully> or I would
[15:55] <sudormrf> Kully, just look at both of those links.  it looks like they describe it pretty well.  you will probably have to set routes for certain things to happen, otherwise the system will likely just default to eth0.
[15:55] <Kully> yeah I will; I've got them open. going to read them, then check routes.
[15:56] <Kully> thanks!
[15:56] <sudormrf> NP.  let us know how it goes.
[15:56] <Kully> will do
[15:57] <delinquentme> Anyone in here doing work with phonegap / cordova ?
[15:58] <jamestuthill> add-apt-repository seems to be missing on Ubuntu 14.04.  I've tried apt-get install python-software-properties but doesn't make a difference.  Any ideas?
[16:02] <cfhowlett> jamestuthill ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:04] <licnep_> any idea how to solve this apt-get error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7226867/
[16:05] <Braden`> Hello
[16:05] <jamestuthill> cfhowlett thanks
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> licnep_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:05] <licnep_> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[16:05] <Braden`> How do I apply the openssl_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.12.debian.tar.gz patch?  Is there a command that can do it, or do I need to decompress the file?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> licnep_: also what is the output of:    apt-cache policy login passwd
[16:06] <Kully> Braden
[16:06] <Kully> apt-get update/upgrade should take care of it
[16:06] <context> is there an expected date for 14.04 or is it 'safe' to use the beta2 and it will just 'auto-upgrade' when doing apt when its officially released?
[16:06] <cfhowlett> !final|context
[16:06] <licnep_> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7226880/
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> context: ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:07] <context> <3
[16:07] <context> cfhowlett: thnx
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> licnep_: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/login_1%3a4.1.4.2+svn3283-3ubuntu5.1_i386.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> licnep_: als, report a bug as there is a package overlap
[16:07] <sakter12> what's the terminal command to shutdown properly? (like i know halt and shutdown... but what're the right flags?)
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> sakter12: sudo shutdown -h now    is what I use
[16:08] <jhutchins> sakter12: The man page does list all the options.
[16:09] <jhutchins> sakter12: I'm not sure it's so clear about the use of the time parameter, which is mandatory.
[16:09] <sakter12> got it, gotta love those man pages
[16:09] <licnep_> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot! no idea what that did but apparently it worked :)
[16:09] <sakter12> jhutchins, right right, was just looking at that
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> licnep_: it ignored the fact that there is a duplicate file in both packages, you should report a bug to get this sorted out
[16:10] <gtrmtx> hey everyone, building a pc specifically for a plex server on ubuntu...hardware suggestions?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> licnep_: paste the text from both pastebins to the bug
[16:11] <licnep_> ActionParsnip: ok
[16:11] <gtrmtx> i know nics can be picky
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> gtrmtx: anything over 100Mb/s will do for LAN streaming
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> gtrmtx: most onboard LAN does that
[16:11] <gtrmtx> but as far as compatibility goes? ive had issues getting my nics to install automatically in the past
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> gtrmtx: you can check HCLs for Linux, Amazon have reviews so you may see people stating if Ubuntu ran ok on the board
[16:13] <gtrmtx> thanks!
[16:13] <nutzz> hey guys, I have installed ncurses but i get this error when i'm trying o compile a file that uses ti library /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncursesw
[16:14] <nutzz> s/ti/this
[16:14] <Rory> nutzz: What package did you install for ncurses development libraries?
[16:14] <bekks> nutzz: omit that w
[16:14] <makara_> hi. i've updated and upgraded, but `dpkg-query -W openssl` still gives me `openssl 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2` and apparently Heartbleed affect uptoincluding 1.0.1f!!!
[16:14] <nutzz> libncurses5-dev
[16:14] <bekks> makara_: Read http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[16:15] <Rory> We should petition the package maintainers to rename it openssl-HEARTBLEED-FIXED-HONESTLY
[16:15] <cfhowlett> Rory :)
[16:16] <bekks> And we should include the visit of that site as part of the channel join process.
[16:17] <Rory> I'd recommend putting it in the topic, but the user who asks without googling is also the user who never reads topics, so it would be no good
[16:20] <jhutchins> We had the same problem yesterday, RedHat incremented the least significant portion of the version number for the patch, and the base version looks too much like OpenSSL's versioning.
[16:20] <Console> Hey I just upgraded my laptop from 12.04 to 13.10 and my second internal hardrive (sdb) is mounted at /media/Data and I can access it through the explorer gui, but if I navigate to /media/Data in my terminal and type "ls" I don't see anything. Could someone point me in the right direction to solve this?
[16:21] <bekks> Console: Unmount it using your graphical file manager, and mount it using your fstab, e.g.
[16:22] <Console> bekks: How can I change the setting to auto-mount in the correct way?
[16:22] <bekks> !fstab | Console
[16:22] <Console> Thank you bekks!!
[16:29] <damarusama> is there an easy dvd creator in the repo, where the user could simply use any mp4/avi/mkv and create playable dvd from it?
[16:29] <usr13> damarusama: yes
[16:30] <damarusama> usr13: it has to be under 5 click process ;)
[16:30] <damarusama> I use myself kdenlive to create the iso then burn that iso to dvd
[16:31] <usr13> damarusama: bombono-dvd
[16:31] <damarusama> but this is for another user with really low computer knowledge
[16:31] <damarusama> usr13: thanks
[16:31] <bekks> damarusama: k3b
[16:32] <damarusama> bekks: will check it out
[16:32] <usr13> bekks: Does k3b do that too?
[16:32] <usr13> bekks: convert video file to dvd format?
[16:32] <bekks> usr13: if all necessary tools are instead, yes.
[16:33] <usr13> bekks: does it use ffmpeg?
[16:33] <damarusama> I was almost thinking to create a script that would automate the process with ffmpeg and then burn the iso with growisofs
[16:33] <bekks> usr13: I dont remember.
[16:33] <koffel> hello
[16:34] <koffel> is there a easy way to bond or brige 2 ineternet incoming connections?
[16:34] <usr13> bekks: Because, depending on the video format you start with,[afaik] you have to convert to mpg first
[16:35] <damarusama> usr13: yeah that's the part that I want automated, so the user doens't need to fool around
[16:35] <usr13> bekks: Because I've used bombono-dvd and that's what it has to do with other formats....
[16:35] <bekks> usr13: which can be done by various tools
[16:35] <usr13> bekks: damarusama ... but it does it by default, automated.
[16:35] <eslam> hi
[16:35] <usr13> bekks: agreed...
[16:36] <usr13> but I think dombono-dvd uses ffmpeg (it's listed as dependency)
[16:37] <damarusama> kool will try that with the user - bombono, it burns the dvd too I assume?
[16:38] <usr13> bekks: damarusama Anyway, just curious.  I know that dombono-dvd works well and is pretty user friendly, I've used it, (just don't know about k3b, will have to look into that, and I think it must be like a plugin or some added feature of sorts).
[16:38] <Console> bekks or anyone else: could anyone assist with trying to figure out the correct fstab options so my mounted hard drive(sdb) can be accessed through the terminal? I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 and my current fstab mount options are "nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show"
[16:38] <usr13> damarusama: Yes, it has the option to just burn to dvd
[16:38] <damarusama> kool thanks!
[16:38] <bekks> Console: Just use "defaults".
[16:39] <Console> so I can remove all that in the "Disks" program and simply input "defaults"?
[16:39] <bekks> Console: Forget the "Disks" program and use an editor for /etc/fstab.
[16:40] <usr13> damarusama: k3b may be more user friendly than bombono-dvd for all I know
[16:40] <Console> ok
[16:42] <Console> What's a good site to paste my fstab file? Pastebin? Also, as a security concern, should I be stripping my hard drives UUID?
[16:43] <usr13> !paste | Console
[16:43] <Console> I need to learn how to use this bot... thanks usr13
[16:43] <Console> !help
[16:43] <Console> !commands
[16:43] <usr13> Console: Try !ubottu
[16:43] <Console> !list
[16:44] <usr13> Console: Try /msg ubottu
[16:44] <Console> Gotcha
[16:44] <Console> Less distracting, thanks usr13
[16:44] <Console> Also, should I be stripping the UUID of my hard drives from my fstab file?
[16:44] <usr13> Console: No, use them
[16:44] <Console> usr13: In terms for pasting it here to the public
[16:45] <usr13> Console: Oh, doesn't matter.  It's not a security risk.
[16:46] <usr13> Console: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[16:46] <usr13> Console: ... and send resulting URL
[16:46] <Console> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7227034/
[16:46] <koffel> is there a easy way to bond or brige 2 ineternet incoming connections?
[16:46] <Console> So that's my fstab
[16:47] <Console> And I'm just trying to access that mounted drive at /media/Data to be able to be communicated with through my terminal
[16:47] <Console> Currently "ls" returns nothing
[16:47] <Console> However if I go to the launcher and open up my GUI for navigating it appears just fine
[16:48] <bekks> Console: Unmount it and mount it using the fstab entry.
[16:48] <usr13> Console: I would use another mount point, (of your *own* choosing).
[16:48] <usr13> Console: But if ls returns nothing, that means it is not mounted, (at least not there).
[16:49] <usr13> Console: ... and not at that particular moment.
[16:49] <Console> I would want it under /media/Data since I already have programs and everything configured to use that path from my previous Ubuntu 12.04
[16:49] <usr13> Console: Okay by me  :)
[16:50] <Console> bekks: If I manually have to mount it with fstab, wouldn't that not enable me to auto-mount on startup?
[16:50] <bekks> Console: ?
[16:51] <bekks> Console: "defaults" inherits "mount at boot"
[16:51] <usr13> Console: You set the option in the fstab file to auto or noauto
[16:51] <Console> How would I necessarily mount it using the fstab entry?
[16:51] <Braden> When is 14.04 scheduled for release?
[16:51] <usr13> Console: ... in other words, to mount it at boot time, or not
[16:51] <bekks> !trusty | Braden
[16:52] <usr13> Console: If you do not want it mounted all the time, you can use an icon or the file manager.
[16:52] <Console> Sorry for my noobish questions, I feel bad not being able to just pick up what you're saying
[16:52] <usr13> Console: But, why not just have it mounted all the time?
[16:52] <Console> Nah, I do want it mounted at all times.
[16:52] <mojtaba> Hi, does anybody know how can I check log of the openvpn? (The service could not be initiated.)
[16:52] <bekks> Console: All your questions are answered in the link given.
[16:52] <usr13> Console: man fstab
[16:52] <usr13> Console: (read)
[16:52] <mojtaba> [FAIL] Starting virtual private network daemon: openvpn failed!
[16:53]  * Console reads
[16:53] <usr13> Console: Or, as bekks points out, see link above.
[16:54] <Console> "sudo mount -a" fucking worked. Thanks bekks and usr13 for your help!!!!
[16:55] <usr13> Console: bekks I think I gave inaccurate info above, you just use option noauto to not mount at boot time, (otherwise it will).
[16:55] <usr13> Console: It worked, but it didn't do anything more.
[16:55] <usr13> (description not needed).
[16:55] <Console> i just don't get why it didn't do it on it's own on startup
[16:56] <Console> I'm restarting now to see if i have to do it everytime
[16:56] <usr13> Console: man fstab
[16:56] <usr13> Console: use option noauto to not mount at boot time, (otherwise it will).
[16:57] <LimeBlast_> is there any disadvantage to installing 14.04 beta-2 now, then just doing an update when the full release comes out?
[16:57] <usr13> Console: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[16:57] <Console> usr13: Pastebin it after I restarted?
[16:58] <Console> I just restarted and it's working through the terminal now
[16:58] <usr13> LimeBlast_: #ubuntu+1
[16:58] <usr13> Console: Very good....
[16:58] <jhutchins> LimeBlast_: Only in that 14.04 is still a bit shakey.
[16:58] <usr13> LimeBlast_: What version are you using now?
[16:58] <Console> usr13: My fstab file hasn't changed either lol
[16:59] <LimeBlast_> jhutchins: but said shakes will eventually be ironed out by future updates?
[16:59] <LimeBlast_> usr13: none at all right now, I'm going to dual boot on a windows 8.1 laptop
[16:59] <usr13> LimeBlast_: 12.04.4 LTS EOL = April 2017
[17:00] <LimeBlast_> usr13: but why not just go for the latest and greatest?
[17:00] <usr13> LimeBlast_: (My advise is to install 12.04.4 and upgrade to 14.04 sometime within the next 2 years, (whenever you fell like it).
[17:00] <LimeBlast_> isn't 14.04 also an LTS?
[17:01] <LimeBlast_> usr13: so 12.04.4 is out now?
[17:01] <usr13> LimeBlast_: 12.04.4 is the latest greatest.
[17:01] <usr13> LimeBlast_: Yes.  It is what I use, (LTS)
[17:01] <Fohlen> any security fixes for nginx + openssl package in ubuntu 13.04 for the heartbleed bug?
[17:01] <LimeBlast_> usr13: OK, I'm happy with that, except for one thing... I know that 14.04 supports secureboot, does 12.04.4?
[17:02] <usr13> LimeBlast_: I will probably consider upgrading in about 5 or 6 months, but I am not in a hurry.
[17:03] <usr13> LimeBlast_: Secureboot?  (UEFI?)
[17:03] <LimeBlast_> usr13: yes. it's a DELL XPS 15 which came with windows 8.1
[17:03] <usr13> LimeBlast_: (Is that what you mean by secureboot?  UEFI?  If so, yes.)
[17:04] <LimeBlast_> yes, sorry, UEFI is what I meant by secureboot
[17:04] <LimeBlast_> ok cool.
[17:04] <usr13> yea ok
[17:04] <LimeBlast_> and I'm guessing you're expecting the upgrade from 12.04.4 to 14.04 to be fairly stright forward?
[17:04] <usr13> !UEFI | LimeBlast_
[17:04] <LimeBlast_> when you do it, in however many months? ;)
[17:04] <usr13> LimeBlast_: It usually is.
[17:05] <LimeBlast_> usr13: thank you for your help :)
[17:05] <usr13> LimeBlast_: Pretty routine
[17:05] <zubuntu> .
[17:05] <Fohlen> or any news when the openssl package will be updated?
[17:05] <Fohlen> this should be an immediant action.
[17:06] <fa7ad> In windows i could share net wuite easily over a lan inteface. Is there a similar set up for ubuntu?
[17:06] <usr13> LimeBlast_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126833/lts-to-lts-upgrade
[17:07] <usr13> fa7ad: Waht is "net wuite"?
[17:07] <fa7ad> Fohlen: i think the newest one is available on some ppas. I think its there on ppa:ricotz/testing
[17:07] <fa7ad> Sorry meant to type quite
[17:07] <fa7ad> Using irc on mobile :)
[17:08] <Fohlen> fa7ad: whom should I talk to to aquiore the patch? This is a realy serious bug which should be fixed in any major ubuntu immediantly.
[17:08] <Fohlen> if the openssl version is affected ofc.
[17:09] <LimeBlast_> thank you usr13
[17:09] <DJones> Fohlen: Its already been updated, see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ to check which version you have, but if you're up to date with updates, then you should already be sorted
[17:09] <usr13> fa7ad: Are you talking about ICS?
[17:09] <xutl> how to remove wine completely ?
[17:09] <fa7ad> Yes anything similar?
[17:09] <usr13> !ics | fa7ad
[17:09] <jhutchins> xutl: How did you install it?
[17:09] <Fohlen> DJones: thank you. I will overlook this. Will the patch also affect elder systems such as 13.04 ?
[17:09] <fa7ad> Xutl: try apt-get purge
[17:10] <xutl> jhutchins: via ppa..then apt-get install wine1.7
[17:10] <xutl> fa7ad: ^^
[17:10] <DJones> Fohlen: As 13.04 is end of life and unsupported, I wouldn't expectthat would be updated
[17:10] <Fohlen> this is bad news DJones
[17:10] <Fohlen> I though .04 is always long-term support?
[17:10] <Fohlen> 2 years, wasnt it?
[17:11] <usr13> fa7ad: Yea, I have my laptop set up for ICS and I just assign an IP for the NIC and trun on DHCP to point to it when I want to use it.
[17:11] <DJones> Fohlen: Not really, people shouldn't be using 13.04 any more, they should have already updated in January
[17:11] <jhutchins> Fohlen: What's bad news?  All vulnerable versions have been updated, some older versions were not vulnerable.
[17:11] <usr13> Fohlen: LTS is a 2 year cycle.
[17:11] <usr13> !lts | Fohlen
[17:11] <mochar_> Hi, can I ask some questions here or is there another channel for that?
[17:12] <DJones> Fohlen: Everything except LTS and 12.10 (which had a longer lifespan) only has a 9 month life now
[17:12] <Fohlen> how would an upgrade on the server look like? Is it verified to work?
[17:12] <usr13> Fohlen: (which is to say, a new LTS comes out every 2 years, 10.04, 12.04, 14.04 etc. etc.
[17:12] <Fohlen> okay.
[17:13] <mochar_> Guys, may I ask a question here or is there another channel for help/support? :]
[17:13] <usr13> Fohlen: If you want LTS, you set your update manager to lts (as opposed to "normal").
[17:13] <usr13> mochar_: This is it
[17:13] <jhutchins> !ask
[17:14] <mochar_> OK sweet. So this: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/2209ii/very_irritating_sound_when_opening_applications/
[17:14] <mochar_> ubottu, I was asking if this was the right channel
[17:14] <mochar_> Oh right haha
[17:14] <xutl> unistall an already added ppa uninstalls and completely removes its app and all associated file ??
[17:14] <usr13> Fohlen: ... but, you can only set the udate manager to lts if  you have an actual LTS install.
[17:14] <Fohlen> usr13: will Ubuntu already have switched off upstart in 14.04 ?
[17:14] <imprecise> i'm doing a 12.04 install from mini image and cant get pass the "downloading installer components" step, stuck on the purple screen. Anyone could help?
[17:15] <kostkon> !ppapurge | xutl
[17:15] <usr13> Fohlen: no
[17:15] <Fohlen> damnit. What version will I have to aquire?
[17:15] <Fohlen> dev?
[17:15] <usr13> Fohlen: Far as I know, 14.04 is still using upstart by default, but you can install systemd if you want.
[17:16] <usr13> Fohlen: Just install systemd on your own....
[17:16] <mochar_> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/2209ii/very_irritating_sound_when_opening_applications/
[17:16] <jhutchins> imprecise: Did you verify the iso you downloaded and the device you created with it?
[17:16] <Fohlen> maybe that's a better choice though.
[17:16] <usr13> Fohlen: What is a better choice?
[17:16] <imprecise> jhutchins: yes
[17:16] <Fohlen> systemd
[17:16] <xutl> kostkon: so I ccan't or I shouldn't uninstall an app installed via ppa directly as apt-get remove/purge ??
[17:16] <usr13> Fohlen: Just install it.  (If it's what you want, install it.)
[17:17] <Fohlen> usr13: won't it conflict with upstart?
[17:17] <jhutchins> xutl: No, that's just to make sure it doesn't get re-installed.
[17:17] <kostkon> xutl, you can remove/disable the ppa and keep the app, you can keep the ppa and remove/purge the app, you can use ppapurge to purge both the app and the ppa
[17:17] <usr13> !systemd | Fohlen
[17:17] <Fohlen> thank you sir!
[17:17] <mochar_> No one?
[17:18] <usr13> Fohlen: if you install it, upstart will be replaced by systemd
[17:18] <Fohlen> okay.
[17:18] <jhutchins> mochar_: You didn't ask a question, you just pasted a link to reddit.
[17:18] <mochar_> jhutchins: Yes, with my problem in it
[17:19] <jhutchins> mochar_: Please read the message from ubottu again.
[17:19] <mochar_> Which one?
[17:19] <usr13> Fohlen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[17:19] <lorddune> can someone help me with a fresh install please?
[17:19] <xangua> !ask | lorddune
[17:19] <usr13> lorddune: Sure, what do you need?
[17:19] <fa7ad> Hey thanks guys. Its quite easy to understand. My network is up and online :)
[17:19] <Fohlen> thanks alot. Seems like I will update all my chunk when 14.04 is out, to keep on a LTS
[17:20] <Fohlen> because all that bitching with 13.04 is yeah.
[17:20] <Fohlen> not so nice.l
[17:20] <usr13> fa7ad: Very good.  Glad to see you got it ok.
[17:20] <mochar_> jhutchins: Do you want me to copy-paste it in here or?
[17:20] <lorddune> I have the ISO loaded on a USB stick, and have the PC loaded up with a boot disk. Not sure what to do next.
[17:20] <Fohlen> thank you for the fast and helpfull information usr13! :)
[17:20] <usr13> Fohlen: NP
[17:20] <imprecise> jhutchins: it complains about being unable to find packages file...
[17:20] <jhutchins> Fohlen: http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/
[17:21] <Fohlen> jhutchins. My server is affected. That's why I need to upgrade it immediatly.
[17:21] <usr13> lorddune: Boot to the USB drive.
[17:21] <sydneyJDykstra> can I hook a ethernet cable directly between 2 linux computers?
[17:21] <jhutchins> Fohlen: You could try installing the 13.10 package, or manually compile the patch into 13.04.
[17:21] <lorddune> usr13 I did that and some strange things happened
[17:22] <usr13> lorddune: What strange thing happened?
[17:22] <Fohlen> jhutchins: I prefer upgrading, as my packages are old too.
[17:22] <usr13> lorddune: Or  things...?
[17:22] <jhutchins> Fohlen: Backup highly recommended.
[17:22] <lorddune> usr13: well, I saw the Ubuntu backsplash, then I saw a screen that looked like a maze......
[17:22] <fa7ad> Hey guys do you think it will be worth upgrading to 14.04?
[17:22] <pdo_fn14> !patience
[17:22] <usr13> !md5sum | lorddune
[17:23] <jhutchins> lorddune: For a server it shouldn't be too bad, most of the 13.x breakage is graphics-related.
[17:23] <Fohlen> jhutchins: why so? Ubuntu upgrades did not fail for one damn time within 4 years now o.o
[17:23] <Fohlen> for me.
[17:23] <mochar_> My laptop makes a very irritating sound. I recorded it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zrd33kj0ue0iraa/recording1858448052.3gpp. Anyone knows what the problem is?
[17:23] <JayS> how do i install ts3?
[17:23] <jhutchins> mochar_: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[17:23] <Neozonz|Disc> Is it just me or has the openssl heartbeat security vunerability not been patched on ubuntu raring?
[17:23] <JayS> how can i install teamspeak 3
[17:24] <usr13> mochar_: Not sure we want to hear irritating sounds
[17:24] <mochar_> Jesus guys, seriously?
[17:24] <lorddune> usr13: I understand all that, but the instructions seemed to indicate installing from a USB stick I needed an installer of some sort. I don't have any OS on the machine whatsoever. Booted with a disc in gparted to get here.
[17:24] <JayS> how can i intall ts3 on 13:10
[17:24] <pdo_fn14> Neozonz|Disc: Raring (13.04) has been discontinued update support away.
[17:25] <jhutchins> Neozonz|Disc: We were just discussing that. 13.04 is officially unsupported and hasn't had an official update released so far.
[17:25] <DJones> sudo reboot
[17:25] <kostkon> JayS, right click on the .run file, select properties, then permissions, then enable allow file executed as program, then press close and then double click on the file
[17:25] <Neozonz|Disc> I see thanks...
[17:25] <DJones> Grr, wront terminal
[17:25] <mochar_> jhutchins: I didn't do anything because it's a hardware problem and I don't know anything about that. Google didn't work
[17:25] <JayS> thanks dude
[17:25] <usr13> lorddune: The installer is included.
[17:25] <jhutchins> lorddune: Generally you have to boot from the installer.  If your system has the option to boot from USB, do that.  Otherwise, you need an installer boot disk or installer disk to boot from.
[17:25] <JayS> doint work
[17:25] <usr13> lorddune: Just boot to it and install.
[17:26] <JayS> i click on it amd ;ibre office starts
[17:26] <rstefanov> hello
[17:26] <fa7ad> Is 13.10 LTS?
[17:26] <rstefanov> what is the latest version of openssl in 12.04 ?
[17:26] <jackarg> hi there, I get this when trying to run star conflict, a linux steam game: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or library.
[17:26] <rstefanov> 12.04 LTS
[17:26] <jackarg> any help?
[17:26] <jhutchins> fa7ad: No, but it's in current STS.
[17:26] <mochar_> jackarg: Forget it
[17:26] <JayS> i use 13:10
[17:26] <JayS> best distro
[17:26] <rstefanov> i have OpenSSL 1.0.1 and it seems there is no updated version
[17:26] <fa7ad> Yep me too
[17:26] <jackarg> mochar_: lol what?
[17:26] <endra> Hey, having issues with installing python-dev: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7227208/
[17:27] <pdo_fn14> fa7ad: No, it's not. 13.10 only 9 month support.
[17:27] <mochar_> jackarg: Prepare for snarky comments and nothing helpful :]
[17:27] <jhutchins> rstefanov: Yes, there is an update for 12.04, just not 12.10 or 13.04
[17:27] <lorddune> jhutchins: i can hit escape to get to a boot menu, not sure if that will work though
[17:27] <jhutchins> rstefanov: The fix is a minor version update.
[17:27] <kostkon> jhutchins, there is for 12.10
[17:27] <jackarg> mochar_: but... why? This channel isn't made for that
[17:27] <rstefanov> jhutchins: what about Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[17:27] <jhutchins> kostkon: Link?
[17:27] <jackarg> mochar_:  I don't see why people aren't capable to help
[17:28] <kostkon> jhutchins, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[17:28] <sydneyJDykstra> mochar_: I just sounds like your hard disk and your cpu fan.
[17:28] <jhutchins> kostkon: Oh, yeah, right, I forgot, 12.04 has extended support.
[17:28] <lorddune> jhutchins: isn't there any way to run it from gparted?
[17:28] <jhutchins> lorddune: Not that I know of.
[17:28] <kostkon> jhutchins, 12.10 yes the last one
[17:28] <mochar_> sydneyJDykstra: But it sounds very bad and it's very loud. It's also absent on my w8 partition
[17:28] <jhutchins> s/04/10/ - sorry.
[17:28] <lorddune> anyone know a way to run a USB ISO install from gparted?
[17:29] <jhutchins> lorddune: You would have to use boot commands from grub.
[17:29] <jackarg> mochar_: WHY is this problem unsolvable?
[17:29] <JayS> how to install teamspeak 3?
[17:29] <lorddune> jhutchins: unfortunately, booting from USB isn't an option in my BIOS.
[17:29] <usr13> lorddune: You are barking up the wrong tree.
[17:29] <donta> I'm trying to get networking running with ubuntu 12LTS
[17:29] <rstefanov> jhutchins: i cant seem to install any minor version
[17:30] <rstefanov> to be able to install*
[17:30] <lorddune> jhutchins: however, I can hit escape and there is a boot menu there
[17:30] <donta> Dell Inspiron 9400
[17:30] <fa7ad> JayS: someone already answered that when u asked the first time
[17:30] <usr13> lorddune: Will it boot to a CD?
[17:30] <lorddune> jhutchins: but I am not sure which slot I need to use
[17:30] <JayS> it doesnt work
[17:30] <donta> I tried this and it didn't work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2158587
[17:30] <fa7ad> Does it show some kinda error?
[17:30] <donta> any ideas?
[17:30] <mochar_> jackarg: I don't know if it's solvable or not, never said it wasn't. I just said that I don't know anything about hardware and because of that I'm clueless of what could be the problem
[17:30] <usr13> lorddune: How did you boot gparted?
[17:30] <sydneyJDykstra> mochar_: I don't know why,but mine sounds louder than that. Linux could use your hard drive differently.To me it soundls ike nothings wrong.
[17:30] <donta> fa7ad: Me? No.
[17:30] <kostkon> jackarg, try this:  sudo apt-get install libcurl3:i386    and then try again
[17:31] <lorddune> usr13: with a boot disc I created long ago
[17:31] <fa7ad> donta: not you JayS
[17:31] <JayS> ?//
[17:31] <JayS> i cant get it working
[17:31] <usr13> lorddune: What computer do you have?
[17:31] <bekks> donta: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[17:31] <usr13> lorddune: make / model
[17:31] <mochar_> sydneyJDykstra: Are you really sure?
[17:31] <mochar_> sydneyJDykstra: Also, thanks for helping
[17:31] <lorddune> usr13: it's a 2 year old hp
[17:32] <fa7ad> Lorddune: can gparted disc run terminal and dd?
[17:32] <sydneyJDykstra> mochar_: actually I am not sure. Are you using ubuntu?
[17:32] <Neozonz|Disc> any ppa's for raring including the openssl fix?
[17:32] <usr13> lorddune: The boot menu does not show USB as an option?
[17:32] <donta> bekks: there is no eth
[17:32] <lorddune> fa7ad: it has a program called Ghost 4 Linux on here, no idea what it does though
[17:32] <jackarg> kostkon thanks a bunch, it worked for that dll. now how do I apply the command to all the other ones? libudev.so.0 is the new missing package
[17:32] <jackarg> mochar_: see, there's a fix!
[17:32] <bekks> !raring | Neozonz|Disc
[17:33] <kostkon> !find libudev.so.0
[17:33] <usr13> lorddune: (I find it a bit hard to believe that a 2 year old HP laptop does not have the capability to boot a USB drive.)
[17:33] <mochar_> sydneyJDykstra: Yes the problem is on ubuntu 13:10 and 14 beta. The sounds is not there on my windows 9 partition
[17:33] <mochar_> jackarg: I think we had some miscommunication haha
[17:33] <usr13> lorddune: It may be that you did not properly install the ISO on the USB drive.
[17:33] <fa7ad> lorddune: well if you have the iso somewhere you could try copying it to the usb drive using dd
[17:33] <usr13> !usb | lorddune
[17:33] <lorddune> usr13: when I hit the escape key before boot, this computer has a boot menu. i do not recognize which slot I am supposed to use of the 7 USB ports on this machine
[17:33] <Neozonz|Disc> bekks, aware of that, but was wondering if there was a custom compile or ppa with a patch
[17:33] <donta> bekks: this is a clean install btw
[17:34] <bekks> Neozonz|Disc: It isnt supported anymore. So the answer is "no".
[17:34] <fa7ad> lorddune: how about trying each of them
[17:34] <usr13> lorddune: Sorry, we can not help you decide which device to boot to.
[17:34] <Neozonz|Disc> lol ok...
[17:34] <bekks> donta: Pastebin "ifconfig -a" please.
[17:34] <kostkon> jackarg, is it libudev.so.0 or libudev.so.1?
[17:34] <jackarg> kostkon: so.0
[17:34] <lorddune> how long does it take to get a menu or something from USB boot??
[17:35] <sydneyJDykstra> mochar_: Click on the gear in the right hand corner,then type in disk utility and click on it.Select your partion and it will tell you if your disk has sonething wrong.
[17:35] <donta> bekks: I don't have networking on that computer (and thus pastebin), since I'll have to type it all out, is there a certain part you're interested in?
[17:35] <bekks> lorddune: Depends on the speed of the usb thumbdrive.
[17:35] <usr13> lorddune: ... but you could burn the image to 7 USB drives and plug them all in at once.  That way, you can not make a wrong choice.  :)
[17:35] <JayS> is there a terminal comman to install ts3
[17:35] <fa7ad> lorddune: depends on ur pc. For me a few seconds at most
[17:35] <kostkon> jackarg, are you on 13.10?
[17:35] <usr13> lorddune: (Sorry, I could not resist.)
[17:35] <jackarg> kostkon: yes
[17:35] <bekks> donta: You can use an usb device, e.g.
[17:35] <gabmus> hello everyone, can anybody tell me how to open a midi file? i already installed vc-plugin-fluidsynth and the two soundfonts and set vlc up to use the gm soundfont, but it wont read any midi
[17:35] <donta> good point
[17:36] <usr13> gabmus: play file.midi
[17:36] <lorddune> a screen popped up before, showed the UBUNTU name like it was loading
[17:36] <mochar_> sydneyJDykstra: I am on my windows partition right now, I will try it out right now and came back to you. brb!
[17:36] <kostkon> jackarg, only option is libudev1, try that. ie  sudo apt-get install libudev1:i386
[17:36] <usr13> !sox | gabmus
[17:36] <lorddune> with a keyboard and a little icon of a guy down below
[17:36] <lorddune> and then, it loaded for like 5 minutes, then it had a screen that looked like a maze
[17:37] <jackarg> kostkon: shit it doesn't work. i still get error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:37] <fa7ad> Lorddune: then u might be having the wrong architecture
[17:37] <gabmus> usr13: play FAIL formats: no handler for file extension `midi'
[17:37] <fa7ad> happend to me once
[17:37] <lorddune> fa7ad: no man, i've been running Linux on this machine forever
[17:37] <usr13> gabmus: file <file.name.here>
[17:37] <donta> bekks: http://pastebin.centos.org/8786/97065059/
[17:37] <fa7ad> Lorddune: u myt be using amd64 iso on i386
[17:37] <lorddune> fa7ad: my old drive has bad sectors, this is for a fresh install.
[17:37] <usr13> gabmus: (tell us what it says)
[17:38] <gabmus> data
[17:38] <lorddune> fa7ad: I have everything backed up to a portable drive
[17:38] <usr13> gabmus: Okeydokey
[17:38] <jhutchins> !midi
[17:38] <bekks> donta: Can you pastebin "lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo lspci -k; sudo lsusb" please?
[17:38] <fa7ad> Cuz u booted sucvesfully but something with the rest of the boot proccess probable damage iso
[17:38] <lorddune> i do have an Ubuntu 11.4 install disc though
[17:38] <donta> bekks: is that multiple commands or a single?
[17:39] <bekks> donta: Multiple commands separated by ;
[17:39] <donta> k
[17:39] <kostkon> jackarg, http://steamcommunity.com/app/212070/discussions/0/540738050967197414/
[17:39] <jhutchins> !paste
[17:39] <bekks> lorddune: I'd not use a 11.04 disc for anything :)
[17:39] <usr13> donta: They are multiple commands that he separated by ;'s  so that you can enter them as if they were all one.
[17:40] <usr13> lorddune: 11.04 is obsolete
[17:40] <jackarg> kostkon:  thanks! do you understand what the first answer means?
[17:40] <fa7ad> Bekks: he can boot into 11.04 in live mode to burn the iso. Better than gparted alone i guess
[17:41] <bekks> fa7ad: I dont think so.
[17:41] <shanker> http://www.gofundme.com/879tq4
[17:41] <shanker> =)
[17:41] <gabmus> people, cant i just use vlc? i remember it used to work just fine
[17:41] <bekks> fa7ad: Advising to use an old eol isnt a good idea.
[17:41] <mochar> sydneyJDykstra: Which button did I had to press?
[17:42] <fa7ad> bekks: only for 5 mins maybe just to burn the latest iso on the USB again or verify a md5 check. Is that too bad? :(
[17:42] <xangua> gabmus: you can use wathever you want
[17:42] <kostkon> jackarg, yeah, what's the output of:  locate libudev.so.0    paste it on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:42] <bekks> fa7ad: Why not doing that with a working gparted medium? Why would it be necessary to use an eol medium?
[17:43] <usr13> fa7ad: So what you *really* have is an ISO image that you downloaded and saved on a USB drive.  Right?  (If that is the case, why didn't you set up the USB drive properly in the first place?)
[17:43] <usr13> !usb | fa7ad
[17:43] <jackarg> kostkon: http://pastebin.com/uGz9XiRi
[17:43] <fa7ad> bekks: ok you win
[17:43] <gabmus> xangua: the problem is that i cant figure out how to make it work, when i try to open a midi with vlc, it just does nothing
[17:43] <fa7ad> But the guy doesn't have any os ryt now
[17:43] <lorddune> hey guys, this "Ghost 4 Linux" looks like a winner
[17:44] <fa7ad> Lorddune: whats that
[17:44] <jhutchins> lorddune: clonezilla?
[17:44] <grio> let’s imagine you’re a Windows administrator for some 15-20 years, and have little experience outside of the Mac world with *nix, and wanted to start somewhere to get a fundamental, ground-up understanding of Linux.
[17:44] <donta> bekks: http://pastebin.centos.org/8791/70654081/
[17:44] <grio> what direction might you point that person?
[17:44] <lorddune> fa7ad: it's for restoring OS'
[17:44] <usr13> lorddune: I've used g4u before, is it the same?
[17:44] <rstefanov> so how to update openssl opn 12.04 ?
[17:44] <rstefanov> on*
[17:44] <jhutchins> grio: Install a linux distro
[17:44] <lorddune> usr13: yes, it is the same system
[17:44] <bekks> rstefanov: by reading http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[17:45] <lorddune> usr13: i guess i just select source (USB) and destination (HDD)
[17:45] <jhutchins> grio: Look at http://tldp.org and the wikin pages for your distro.
[17:46] <bekks> lorddune: What are you trying to do?
[17:46] <usr13> lorddune: No, I think they are different projects.  I've just done a search and find http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/  and  http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/
[17:46] <lorddune> usr13: when I begin to load this, will I get an option to partition the drive
[17:46] <lorddune> bekks: I am trying to install fresh Ubuntu from USB to brand new HDD
[17:46] <aliensbrah> is there going to be anything significantly different between the 14.04 beta and the official release?
[17:47] <rstefanov> bekks: i am confused, i dont want to upgrade the whole system, just openssl
[17:47] <rstefanov> i cant afford dist upgrade or something like that
[17:47] <grio> jhutchins: done. There’s just a LOT of information out there to grok. Looking for a means to really get under the hood and understand libraries, the environments, the ecosystem (not sure if this is the right word.) tldp.org is a great resource.
[17:47] <lorddune> bekks: I have no OS on this machine, only gparted which I booted into RAM from disc
[17:47] <usr13> lorddune: Thanks for the info on g4l  I'll download and try it next time.
[17:47] <bekks> lorddune: Then why do you use ghost4linux? Why not using gparted or a current ubuntu cd, partition the new disk, and copy the content of the filesystems to the new disk?
[17:47] <bekks> lorddune: the gparted disc is more than enough for everything you are trying to do.
[17:48] <lorddune> bekks: Tis was a boot disk that I created long ago, it has lots of stuff on it
[17:48] <jackarg> kostkon ?
[17:48] <fa7ad> bekks: hah guess thats somewhere near my suggestion. *justSayin*
[17:48] <jhutchins> grio: I think one of the best ways to learn is to find some project to do with Linux, then figure out all the bits and pieces of doing it.
[17:48] <bekks> lorddune: And? No need to use ghost4linux but another reason for following the instructions I just gave you.
[17:48] <lorddune> bekks: nobody knew how to load the iso from gparted, you do??
[17:48] <bekks> lorddune: you dont load any iso from gparted at all.
[17:48] <kostkon> jackarg, you would normally do it like this LD_PRELOAD=~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libudev.so.0 followed by the game's executable file
[17:48] <bekks> lorddune: you said you booted into gparted, thats enough.
[17:49] <mbslk> Hi All, Does apt-mirror has a pre-mirror script config option? which can run before apt-mirror starts? Also is there a command to check if the apt-mirror is in progress, basically to check apt-mirror status?
[17:49] <bekks> mbslk: I told you yesterday that it isnt possible.
[17:49] <bekks> mbslk: Nothing has changed since yesterday.
[17:49] <usr13> Another alterntative is  http://partedmagic.com/   (also has Disk Cloning)
[17:50] <fa7ad> lorddune: open up a terminal window and then "dd if=isofile of=dev/ur/usb"
[17:50] <bekks> gparted can clone disks, too.
[17:50] <lorddune> bekks: you came in late. I have Ubuntu on a USB stick. my machine is torn apart, the old HDD is backed up and in a box to be shipped to Seagate for warranty. The NEW HDD is in the machine and needs a FRESH install using a USB ISO.
[17:50] <donta> bekks: just making sure you got the pastebin I sent, and I didn't miss something you said? no rush, just making sur eyou're not waiting on me
[17:50] <donta> *sure you're
[17:50] <mbslk> bekks: Thanks bekks, I do understand.....so there is no command to check apt-mirror progress?
[17:50] <grio> jhutchins: that’s fair. I’d do CompTIAs Linux+ track, but I hate paper expects. Considered it as a place to start studying, but came into here for actual users.
[17:51] <jackarg> kostkon: i get this: http://pastebin.com/Ay86Kg5c
[17:51] <bekks> mbslk: Thats not what you asked.
[17:51] <bekks> donta: Can you pastebin "dmesg" as well please?
[17:51] <lorddune> fa7ad: no such file or directory
[17:51] <jhutchins> grio: It can be instructive to lurk here and see questions and answers, problems and solutions.
[17:52] <lorddune> fa7ad: and yes, it took me a while to find it, but I have a terminal
[17:52] <mbslk> bekks: I know, I am just trying to see what all I can do
[17:52] <usr13> grio: If you are in the market for generic information, you might [also] try ##linux
[17:52] <grio> jhutchins: that’s a part of my plan.
[17:52] <jhutchins> grio: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html
[17:52] <fa7ad> Lorddune: hhey hey use real location not the mock ones i used
[17:52] <jhutchins> grio: Console is the power user tool.
[17:52] <bekks> mbslk: How about starting to ask the questions you want to be answered and not something else then? :)
[17:52] <grio> usr13: lurking there as well.
[17:52] <donta> bekks: too long to copy from terminal, any ideas?
[17:53] <lorddune> fa7ad: hahaha
[17:53] <mbslk> bekks: Sure will keep in mind :)
[17:53] <kostkon> jackarg, you could try LD_PRELOAD=~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libudev.so.0 steam steam://rungameid/212070
[17:53] <usr13> grio: Have you done an install yet?
[17:53] <lorddune> fa7ad: c'mon, I'm stoooopid
[17:53] <jhutchins> !pastebinit | donta
[17:53] <bekks> mbslk: the issue you stated yesterday can be solved by the two approaches provided yesterday. You refused both, so there is no solution to your issue.
[17:53] <donta> jhsimpson: there is no networking on that computer
[17:54] <donta> and thus no pastebin
[17:54] <fa7ad> lorddune: if you copied it right you should be able to just boot and install
[17:54] <jackarg> kostkon: sorry man, then I get this: (not sure if it's an error) http://pastebin.com/paeLFK9P
[17:54] <bekks> donta: "dmesg  >  filename"
[17:54] <lorddune> fa7ad: how long does that take. i asked earlier, what exactly am I supposed to see
[17:54] <grio> jhutchins: Yessir. I’ve installed various versions, and I can follow instructions; it’s more trying to fundamentally understand versus being a direction-monkey. That’s what I’m working towards.
[17:54] <donta> k
[17:55] <lorddune> fa7ad: it had the Ubuntu load screen, with a keyboard and icon of little guy at bottom
[17:55] <uagent> hello! is anyone using chrome or chromium in ubuntu?
[17:55] <lorddune> fa7ad: and it loaded 5 or 10 minutes then there was some crazy screen looked like a maze
[17:55] <kostkon> jackarg, :/
[17:55] <fa7ad> Um a few options like install; live mode are dupposed to show up soon after the crazy screen
[17:55] <lorddune> fa7ad: and yes, I checked the iso file last night and it checked out fine
[17:56] <mbslk> bekks: So I thought about it and from your suggestion I am thinking to use the concept of modifying the source.list file on client side, for that reason I was asking if there is any command to check the status of apt-mirror whether it's currently running/complete etc?
[17:56] <jhutchins> mbslk: ps ax
[17:56] <jackarg> kostkon: nothing to do I guess :/ well thanks anyways for the help
[17:56] <fa7ad> lorddune: maybe just wait out and get a cuppa
[17:56] <bekks> mbslk: You dont need to check that, as has been told yesterday, since the old files will be accessible until the mirror update is complete.
[17:56] <lorddune> uagent: I've been using Chrome in Ubuntu for years, why?
[17:56] <donta> bekks: http://pastebin.centos.org/8796/39706620/
[17:57] <usr13> grio: See my PM
[17:57] <sydneyJDykstra> mo
[17:57] <uagent> lorddune: i'm trying to gather some info on how various browsers behave
[17:57] <lorddune> fa7ad: ok, maybe. but it's a fast(ish) USB
[17:57] <sydneyJDykstra> oops!! sorry
[17:57] <uagent> could you visit https://panopticlick.eff.org and paste me the results to PM?
[17:57] <lorddune> uagent: in what regards?
[17:57] <bekks> donta: maybe this helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1769998.html
[17:57] <fa7ad> lorddune: maybe the pc is slow.( U mentioned old)
[17:58] <uagent> lorddune: digital fingerprints
[17:58] <lorddune> fa7ad: no, it's only 2 years old. it's fast(ish)
[17:58] <usr13> uagent: They behave badly when you enter a bad URL.  They behave well when given a good URL.
[17:58] <mbslk> bekks: But does apt-mirror put a lock when it's running? so that any new package that it's downloading as part of current run will not be accessible?
[17:58] <uagent> usr13: whats wrong with the URL?
[17:58] <bekks> mbslk: the new packages will be available when the mirror update is finished.
[17:59] <usr13> uagent: Sorry, it was a failed attempt at humor.
[17:59] <bekks> mbslk: All this has been told yesterday
[17:59] <donta> bekks: do I want to use "sudo modprobe b44"?
[17:59] <mbslk> bekks: Ahh....thanks for explaining again
[17:59] <fa7ad> lorddune: dunno whats going on there seems to me like some kinda hardware issue
[17:59] <uagent> usr13: :) didnt fail completly though
[17:59] <bekks> donta: you want to read the entire article. ;)
[17:59] <lorddune> uagent: I found chrome to work the best with the nvidia video card and chipset I have
[17:59] <pentester_> is it possible to move your entire os install to a sd card?
[17:59] <donta> lol kk
[17:59] <fa7ad> lorddune: i had the purple screen stuck up for 15 mons once on my dads old laptop
[18:00] <donta> my bad...
[18:00] <jackarg> while i'm here: ubuntu 13.10 has made my comp much much laggier with unity, video games, and any type of video playback. even when I'm not in a "3D" session. anyone know about this?
[18:00] <vgezer> hi everyone. can someone help me with this please: http://askubuntu.com/questions/444033/100-i-o-usage-due-to-jbd2
[18:00] <fa7ad> lorddune: 15 mins*
[18:00] <uagent> lorddune: good that they provide that support
[18:00] <aliensbrah> if i die young
[18:00] <vgezer> I am really annoyed of this behaviour :/
[18:00] <aliensbrah> derp wrong channel
[18:00] <lorddune> fa7ad: I can't see any USB devices listed under hardware
[18:00] <bekks> vgezer: So pastebin "iotop" please.
[18:01] <fa7ad> lorddune: literally clueless… somebody with more expertise will help you hopefully. Sorry to waste ur tym
[18:01] <usr13> ... jackarg ... one of the reasons not everyone likes java
[18:02] <lorddune> fa7ad: 2812 Mhz
[18:02] <jackarg> usr13 ?
[18:02] <usr13> vgezer: ... one of the reasons not everyone likes java
[18:02] <usr13> jackarg: Sorry, wrong nic
[18:02] <lorddune> fa7ad: so the system seems to be performing OK
[18:02] <vgezer> bekks: how do I pause it, it does not write to log via iotop > iotop.log
[18:02] <uagent> lorddune: can you check the url?
[18:02] <lorddune> uagent: which url do you want me to check?
[18:02] <bekks> vgezer: press q, and pastebin the last output
[18:03] <uagent> lorddune: https://panopticlick.eff.org
[18:03] <vgezer> bekks: when i do q, it removes all output.
[18:03] <vgezer> clears i mean
[18:03] <bekks> vgezer: then press ctrl c
[18:03] <fa7ad> lorddune: as far as i can tell its booting the disk fine. Dunno what fappens after that
[18:03] <fa7ad> lorddune: happens*
[18:03] <vgezer> bekks: ops. the same. that's why I used screenshot :/
[18:04] <lorddune> uagent: i'm in the midst of a rebuild, sorry can't do that now
[18:04] <uagent> oki
[18:04] <lorddune> fa7ad: how can I recheck the iso file?
[18:04] <uagent> any other chrome/chromium user around?
[18:04] <lorddune> fa7ad: who knows, maybe I fried it between last night and now
[18:05] <fa7ad> lorddune: if it comes to the options, then there is one for intergrity check
[18:05] <lorddune> fa7ad: geesh I cannot figure out how to do anything on the USB ports
[18:05] <fa7ad> lorddune: hey ik rest of the pros are gonna hate me. But just try your 11.04 disc maybe its worth a try
[18:06] <lorddune> fa7ad: that's why I asked. I could just use 11.4 and upgrade, no??
[18:06] <bekks> vgezer: use iotop -b then.
[18:06] <fa7ad> lorddune: mostly, yes
[18:06] <lorddune> fa7ad: pretty sure it's the same kernel
[18:07] <donta> bekks: how long should "sudo modprobe b44" take?
[18:07] <bekks> donta: seconds
[18:07] <fa7ad> lorddune: not sure on the kernel version. But u should get a usable system at the very least
[18:07] <lorddune> fa7ad: gonna reboot, load the stick again, grab lunch and see what it does after 30-45 minutes
[18:07] <donta> bekks: it's hanging with no output
[18:07] <lorddune> fa7ad: thanks for your halp
[18:08] <lorddune> And thanks everyone else for your help.
[18:08] <bekks> donta: then press ctrl c and see wether it is still loaded
[18:08] <fa7ad> lorddune: on 11.04 you can just grab some other distro if you want. Maybe a fork like kubuntu
[18:08] <vgezer> bekks: yes. now: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7227394/
[18:09] <fa7ad> lorddune: hey i hardly  helped. U r welcome anyway
[18:09] <fa7ad> Tada everyone Adios
[18:09] <donta> bekks: I don't see any process with that in it?
[18:10] <bekks> vgezer: Are you joking actually? You are concerned about a _total_ I/O of less than 1M/s ? :)
[18:10] <vgezer> bekks: yes, but I cannot click anywhere. it took 30 seconds to open a terminal window. i have intel i7 4 gb ram
[18:11] <vgezer> bekks: i always hear some sound from harddrive
[18:11] <lob22> when ubuntu phone comes out can would we beable to download the apk for android?
[18:11] <Guest51841> Hi, I am having a problem with the Compiz Cube on Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy running MATE. When there are no windows on the screen, it freezes X.
[18:12] <Guest51841> (When I try to rotate the cube)
[18:12] <uagent> any chrome/chromium user around?
[18:12] <donta> bekks: also no such location as ./scripts/driver-select?
[18:12] <bekks> donta: Whats that?
[18:13] <donta> bekks: see last post in the thread you linked to
[18:13] <xangua> !ask | uagent
[18:13] <donta> bekks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1769998&page=4
[18:13] <uagent> any chrome/chromium user around? - i need a favour :)
[18:14] <xangua> !touch | lob22: ubuntu touch is not an android application
[18:14] <bekks> donta: I never needed to compile compat-wireless on my own.
[18:14] <OerHeks> Guest51841, mate is not supported hete, join the mint channel ?
[18:14] <OerHeks> hete-here
[18:14] <Guest51841> OerHeks: But i'm not using Mint. I'm using Ubuntu.
[18:14] <vgezer> bekks: any idea?
[18:15] <lob22> ubottu thanks
[18:15] <OerHeks> Guest51841, mate is not in our reposity's, so?
[18:15] <donta> bekks: should I try reinstalling again? there's other issues such as not properly shutting down
[18:15] <bekks> vgezer: also check whats using your cpu.
[18:15] <Guest51841> OerHeks: Yes, but this is a Compiz issue.
[18:15] <donta> bekks: you have a inspiron 9400? which version of ubuntu are you running on it?
[18:17] <lob22> I use to run ubuntu on my computer back in the day have not messed with Linux in forever
[18:19] <Guest51841> I am running compiz on my ubuntu box and whenever I have no windows on the screen and I rotate the cube w/ my mouse, X freezes.
[18:27] <django> trying to setup a ubuntu partition..i have a windows 7, hard drive will only allow 4gb of the 400gb available..anyone know how i can fix this
[18:27] <johan___> Hi! I am doing ssh -X to acces a program (Ansys CFX) via a school server. I want to run a simulation on the server but I want to save the results to my local computer. Is that possible? I guess I want to mount a local drive at the ssh server computer.
[18:27] <lorddune> iso install help Part Two.......I am installing from USB, watching processes from a terminal window, thrn screen went black???
[18:27] <bekks> django: resize your windows partition(s).
[18:27] <django> bekks what
[18:28] <bekks> django: you asked a question, I answered it.
[18:28] <loa> how i can make something like copy paste log?
[18:28] <lorddune> idle timeout fail?
[18:30] <django> it wont let me extend partition on that drive
[18:30] <bekks> django: Because you have to resize your windows partition(s) first.
[18:31] <django> I did...and in that option windows LIMITS me to 9gb....
[18:31] <django> i did disk defrag and nothing
[18:32] <bekks> django: So you have to free up space in Windows to be able to shrink even more...
[18:32] <django> Im not explaining my problem correctly
[18:32] <lorddune> can someone help me, I am trying to install ubuntu , not sure if its going bad or not
[18:32] <django> I go to C-drive, shrink volume....it only lets me 9gb
[18:32] <django> i obviously need more
[18:33] <bekks> django: So you have to free up space in Windows to be able to shrink even more...
[18:33] <Joel> if I do an apt-get update, where does the Packages.gz file get expanded locally?
[18:34] <django> bekks how??
[18:34] <bekks> django: Ask ##windows
[18:34] <SchrodingersScat> !details | lorddune
[18:34] <lorddune> NG2D UNK34XX TPRAST TPROP ROP repeating in terminal whats gping on??
[18:34] <donta> bekks: do you have the Inspiron 9400?
[18:35] <bekks> donta: No.
[18:36] <b1g3m> Hello Humans.
[18:36] <Pa^2> ...Would you like to play a game?...
[18:37] <b1g3m> Yes.
[18:37] <DJones> Pa^2: No, do you have an Ubuntu support question
[18:37] <b1g3m> Negative.
[18:37] <b1g3m> Do you have a support question?
[18:38] <vgezer> bekks: sorry for late response. there is only chrome with is only 3%
[18:38] <Beldar> django, double posting is not appreciated use one channel at a time.
[18:39] <yacc> Any idea if there is a guide how to use (not necessarily configure/debug) a clickpad with 13.10?
[18:39] <vgezer> bekks: there is also a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607560
[18:39] <yacc> Basically how to emulare Button2, Button3, and so on.
[18:40] <bekks> vgezer: That bug is for pretty ancient kernels and it is incomplete.
[18:40] <vgezer> bekks: should I report another bug report?
[18:41] <bekks> vgezer: I'd suggest that.
[18:41] <vgezer> bekks: thanks a lot :)
[18:43] <Joel> if I do an apt-get update, where does the Packages.gz file get expanded locally?
[18:43] <surfergal> rsync OS backup failed with errors:  (1) buffer overflow expanding %L -- exiting (2) rync error:  errors with program diagnostics (code 13) at log.c(705) [sender=3.0.6] (3) rsync: writefd_unbufffered failed to write 78 bytes to socket [generator]: Broken pipe (32)  -- is it possible to dd the OS directories instead of using rsync and how?
[18:44] <trism> Joel: /var/lib/apt/lists/
[18:44] <Joel> trism: thanks
[18:45] <Joel> trism I'm not specifying an arch type in my personal_repo.list, but seems like it's pulling down amd64 only, and not all :\
[18:46] <k1l> Joel: what do you want to do exactly?
[18:47] <Joel> k1l: punch ubuntu in the face ;) I've got deb s2://user:pass@s3.amazonaws.com/repo/ stable main in a sources list
[18:48] <Joel> but for whatever reason apt-cache only seems to be able to find amd64 packages, and not packages of arch "any"
[18:49] <k1l> Joel: erm, that is way out of the regular way.
[18:49] <designbybeck> If I run updates on my Ubuntu Server ...does that fix the "HeartBleed" issue?
[18:49] <Joel> k1l: stuff that's arch indepdent still gets tagged with an arch?
[18:49] <k1l> Joel: first, why do you do that? and second: why do you expect to load stuff that doesnt suit your arch? ubuntu uses multiarch anyway
[18:50] <OerHeks> designbybeck, sure, see !sslbug
[18:50] <k1l> designbybeck: get all recent updates and then reboot. maybe change private keys
[18:50] <Joel> k1l: why do I do what? I want to load stuff that works cross architecture.
[18:50] <lucido> does anyone here have any experience with pam?
[18:50] <Beldar> designbybeck, Should run as dist-upgrade
[18:50] <designbybeck> ok tahnk you guys
[18:50] <designbybeck> Doing that now... thanks OerHeks k1l  Beldar
[18:51] <k1l> Joel: that sounds like a real strange workaround. what is your target here?
[18:51] <Joel> k1l: what sounds like a strange workaround?
[18:51] <Joel> I can't think of a single reason you'd pin something that doesn't need to be compiled to an architecture.
[18:52] <SchrodingersScat> !anyone | lucido
[18:52] <k1l> Joel: i think you missunderstand what apt-get is doing with the repositories.
[18:52] <howlett> does anyone know what the plan is for updating packages that have heartbleed vulnerable ssl statically compiled in is?  I am using haproxy and updating does not seem to solve the problem.
[18:53] <k1l> Joel: why should an update/install load all packages for any arch when only the specific used arch is needed?
[18:53] <Joel> k1l: I think you're arguing about something you know nothing about. Fixed it. Thanks for you know, distracting from the problem :)
[18:53] <OerHeks> !sslbug | howlett, see these posts and compare your ssl version
[18:54] <lucido> SchrodingersScat, I'm trying to set up parental control using pam_time, what is the http service?
[18:54] <OerHeks> howlett, you won't see the 1.0.1.g update number, ubuntu patches the current version
[18:54] <k1l> Joel: i think the issue is not a issue after all. it is more "a user wants a strange workaround"
[18:55] <designbybeck> !sslbug
[18:55] <howlett> Yeah, i did those updates and I am still vulnerable.  That is when I realized that haproxy has SSL compiled in and does not use the shared system library.
[18:57] <funcoland1> Hello #ubuntu.. This is my first time in this channel but I came to ask if anyone can help me figure this ubuntu trusty PXE install problem? it begins the installation and I get to a point where it is looking for "trusty-updates/release".. this isn't included on the disc so I don't get why it's looking for it.. anybody have an idea? maybe i have the wrong kernel loaded?
[18:57] <trism> howlett: you should probably file a bug against that package about it
[18:57] <howlett> ok, thanks
[18:58] <urda> What do I need to do to my 12.04 server to update away from the heart bleed bug?
[18:58] <Console> Would my grafics card be a ATI Mob. Rad. HD 4xxx or 5xxx series? here's my output of lspxi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7227608/
[18:59] <urda> ... nevermind a quick service reboot fixed it
[19:00] <xtristan> i'm trying to make an automated installer of 12.04 and i'm getting stuck on the ubuntu splash screen that usually gives options of "install ubuntu; check disc for defaults" etc
[19:00] <xtristan> what's strange is that it's printing my append lines as if it cannot parse my txt.cfg
[19:02] <xtristan> is it safe to assume that because it's not getting past the txt.cfg file, it's unlikely to be anything in my preseed files?
[19:04] <vmusr> is there a dedicated channel for networking questions?
[19:04] <vmusr> !network
[19:04] <vmusr> !nat
[19:04] <usr13> urda: http://blog.matthewdfuller.com/2014/04/how-to-fix-openssl-heart-bleed-bug-on.html
[19:05] <lucido> how can I use pam to restrict internet access?
[19:05] <bekks> lucido: Basically you cant.
[19:06] <bekks> lucido: PAM is for authentication, not for restricting network functionality.
[19:06] <lucido> bekks, thats what I though I read some tutorial about using pam_time to do that but it mention a http service which I dont see here
[19:08] <Shutterstrom> Good evening. Just a quick question: what happens with my settings in config files when using apt-get upgrade? Are they lost or will the system try to merge old and new settings?
[19:13] <gvo> Shutterstrom: It will give you a menu listing the options,  use old, use new, see differences etc.
[19:13] <surfergal> is it possible to dd copy only specific OS folders on a running server & how?
[19:14] <bekks> surfergal: dd does not operate on filesystem basis, but on disk basis. So the answer is no.
[19:15] <gvo> Shutterstrom: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7227685/
[19:15] <surfergal> bekks: thanks!  can you dd copy the OS LUN only on a running server without grabbing the symlinks and exports?
[19:15] <Shutterstrom> gvo: Ahh, thanks!
[19:15] <bekks> surfergal: dd does not operate on filesystem basis, but on disk basis. So the answer is no.
[19:16] <urda> usr13: Yeah I got it patched, the key was I didn't have openssl restarted
[19:16] <urda> usr13: face-desk
[19:17] <surfergal> bekks: how can you backup a running server OS (only) on a LUN?
[19:17] <Shutterstrom> gvo: Wow, thanks for that link! High class example here! Thanks!
[19:18] <gvo> Shutterstrom: I was in the process of doing an upgrade.  :)
[19:18] <bekks> !backup | surfergal
[19:18] <gvo> Shutterstrom: You asked the question about the time it asked me a question.
[19:18] <surfergal> bekks: thanks!!!!
[19:19] <Shutterstrom> gvo: Good luck! (Heartbeat?) :-)
[19:19] <gvo> Shutterstrom: In part and also 'cause it'd been a while
[19:19] <Shutterstrom> gvo: Heartbleed*
[19:23] <LBV_User> Hi all, there is any planned openssl fix for 12.04?
[19:24] <rww> LBV_User: It was already fixed. http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[19:25] <LBV_User> thanks rww, I upgraded the system, but 'openssl version' still as 1.0.1c... that scared me a little
[19:26] <bekks> LBV_User: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[19:27] <rww> LBV_User: yeah, we backport fixes to released Ubuntu versions instead of upgrading to new major versions post-release
[19:27] <rww> bekks: already linked that :P
[19:27] <bekks> rww: Cant be linked enough, nowadays ;)
[19:27] <Corey> !ping
[19:27] <Corey> Whee!
[19:28] <SchrodingersScat> Is there a test to see if we're heartbleeding?
[19:28] <bekks> SchrodingersScat: Yes. Check http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ and update affected packages.
[19:28] <LBV_User> bekks: maybe puting it in the channel desc helps...
[19:30] <SchrodingersScat> bekks: That's a good solution, but it's not really a 'test',  if you get what I mean.
[19:31] <bekks> SchrodingersScat: It is the pratical solution after reading the changelog.
[19:33] <trism> SchrodingersScat: Kees linked http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/ on G+ last night, untested by me though
[19:38] <funcoland1> any preseed gurus in here?
[19:38] <warddr> Hello, did anyone manage to get replicatorG to work on ubuntu 14.04?
[19:38] <bekks> funcoland1: How about just asking your question? :)
[19:38] <bekks> !trusty > warddr
[19:40] <SchrodingersScat> why did they take !anyone out of ubottu? that was one of my favorites, that and !return
[19:41] <funcoland1> yeah sorry. anyways i'm having an issue with the trusty PXE install. it gets to a point where it's looking for the "trusty-updates" repository to get some packages I guess? and it hangs with a 404. i don't understand why it's triyng to reach out to it
[19:42] <funcoland1> it's looking for ttp://<mypxeserver>/Ubuntu-Trustyx64/dists/trusty-updates/Release then blam.. 404 and hangs for 10+ minutes. the installation does continue after that long period however.
[19:42] <funcoland1> that trusty-updates repo doesn't even come on the installation disc (beta 2) for obvious reasons.. i don't know why the installer is looking for it
[19:43] <JayS> why does wine crash when i try and start a game?
[19:44] <SchrodingersScat> JayS: so much detail left out of your question, and I'm not sure if it's even ubuntu related.  Have you read the wine database page for your game?
[19:44] <JayS> how do i do that
[19:45] <bekks> !winehq | JayS
[19:45] <JayS> !appdb
[19:45] <SchrodingersScat> JayS: http://appdb.winehq.org/ search for what you are trying to do, then read everything
[19:46] <JayS> there is nothing their
[19:46] <JayS> :(
[19:46] <JayS> there
[19:46] <bekks> JayS: Then that game is not supported in wine.
[19:46] <JayS> people have done it in youtube videos :(
[19:46] <SchrodingersScat> JayS: you might be a pioneer!
[19:46] <unkerror> what game is it?
[19:46] <JayS> Modern Warfare 3
[19:46] <bekks> JayS: So ask those people then :)
[19:47] <JayS> how so
[19:47] <OerHeks> try the 2nd suggestion, join #winehq
[19:47] <unkerror> did you install it with playonlinux?
[19:47] <unkerror> pol has an installation script for that game
[19:47] <JayS> how to join a diff channel
[19:48] <JayS> do i do !join winehq
[19:48] <keevitaja> hi, i installed ubuntu today on dell e5420 and i have no sound. any idea how to fix this?
[19:48] <lasers> JayS: /j ##different
[19:49] <JayS> #winehq is bad
[19:49] <JayS> no rely
[19:49] <JayS> reply
[19:49] <ikonia> there is nothing wrong with #winehq
[19:50] <ikonia> please wait for a response
[19:50] <bekks> !appdb | JayS
[19:50] <JayS> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13662
[19:51] <sebastianstudio> hello again! i have a midi/usb keyboard. line6 mobile keys 25 and want to connect it with jack-midi synthesizers, but mobile keys is only shown as a alsa-midi device in patchage. how can i change that?
[19:51] <sebastianstudio> shown in patchage / jack.
[19:51] <kart> JayS, winehq is not bad. those guys helped me many-a-times..pretty cool guys is what i can tell you
[19:52] <OerHeks> JayS,  Modern Warfare 3 needs 2 gb RAM, 3 gb is better ... do you have such system?
[19:53] <tex83> How would I get SPICE on a linux box? Does it respond to apt-get? Sometimes package names are not what I expect them to be and I'm not sure how to look up the package name and repository.
[19:53] <JayS> 10gb ram, amd fx 4130 and 7750 1gb gddr5
[19:53] <tex83> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPICE
[19:53] <ikonia> then install the correct package
[19:53] <ikonia> tex83: search the repo for spice
[19:54] <JayS> it says Installing direct x for windows step 2 of 2
[19:54] <ikonia> JayS: #winehq
[19:55] <JayS> right
[19:56] <JayS> it gets past installing and stuff but it freeses steam after so
[19:56] <ikonia> JayS: #winehq
[19:56] <JayS> no reply
[19:56] <ikonia> JayS: wait for a repo
[19:56] <ikonia> reply
[19:56] <JayS> stop spamming we with that
[19:56] <ikonia> JayS: then stop asking wine questions in here
[19:56] <ikonia> JayS: it's supported in #winehq
[19:56] <tex83> ikonia: uh... how?
[19:56] <ikonia> tex83: open the package manager ?
[19:58] <tex83> ikonia: how?
[19:58] <ikonia> tex83: what package manager do you normally use ?
[19:58] <tex83> ikonia: would the be "Ubuntu Software Center"?
[19:58] <ikonia> tex83: ok, so search for "spice" in software center
[19:59] <ikonia> tex83: then when you see the right spice package, click "install"
[19:59] <tex83> ikonia - I know how to use that. Is the "Ubuntu software center" really just a search front end for apt-get?
[19:59] <JayS> i now know this is a rror
[20:00] <ikonia> tex83: it's a package manager, the same as apt-get
[20:00] <ikonia> JayS: #winehq
[20:00] <JayS> Your Graphics Hardware does not support all features (CSM) needed to run this game
[20:00] <tex83> ikonia: cool. Thank you.
[20:00] <JayS> this is a ubuntu problem
[20:00] <ikonia> JayS: no, it's not
[20:00] <ikonia> JayS: it's a wine problem
[20:00] <JayS> no
[20:00] <JayS> its a engine error
[20:00] <ikonia> JayS: what are you running when you get that error
[20:00] <rww> when run through wine
[20:00] <JayS> cs:go
[20:01] <ikonia> JayS: are you running it through wine ?
[20:01] <JayS> no
[20:01] <JayS> pol
[20:01] <ikonia> JayS: pol ?
[20:01] <ikonia> play on linux ?
[20:01] <JayS> eyyy
[20:01] <ikonia> that's wine
[20:01] <ikonia> so it's a wine problem
[20:01] <ikonia> #winehq is where you need to ask
[20:01] <aliensbrah> Doesn't CSGO play on linux?
[20:02] <KillaloT> no, not currently
[20:03] <KillaloT> "Meanwhile, Newell confirmed a Linux version of Valve's multiplayer shooter Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is in the works: "It's being worked on but we don't have an ETA," he said."
[20:03] <KillaloT> from 5th march this year
[20:04] <aliensbrah> Ah, Valve has most source games available on linux though, I think anyway
[20:05] <OerHeks> there is an #ubuntu-steam channel too ;-)
[20:06] <unkerror> you can provide all the support channels you want, but there will always be someone who that just isn't good enough for :)
[20:06] <OerHeks> support is free, no refund
[20:07] <unkerror> but but... I wanted to pay for support!
[20:08] <simpleton> Anyone familiar with Blackbuntu?
[20:09] <bekks> simpleton: Thats not an official derivative. No support.
[20:10] <simpleton> Just looking for info, not necessarily support.
[20:11] <Jordan_U> simpleton: Info on non-Ubuntu distros is better found in channels like ##linux, or #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:12] <simpleton> Why thank you, Jordan.
[20:16] <Jordan_U> simpleton: You're welcome.
[20:24] <jack1>  /set irc.server.freenode.nicks "mynick,mynick2,mynick3,mynick4,mynick5"
[20:24] <jack1>  /set irc.server.freenode.nicks "tinybike,tensorjack,jack.p"
[20:33] <cisconinja> long story short, anyway i can delete my 1 TB hdd while ssh'd to that box. i just added that hdd to an esxi server and it keeps booting from ubuntu and i don't want that
[20:38] <xpistos> Hey Dumb question ... if I download the beta and then update after the fact, should I be okay?
[20:38] <xpistos> Never done it before
[20:38] <xpistos> or update it after 4.17
[20:39] <bekks> xpistos: ?
[20:39] <k1l> xpistos: the betas get all updates to be a final on release day
[20:39] <dp> I've given an app  setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin=eip, but I'm still getting EPERM when trying to do PF_PACKET sockets. any suggestions?
[20:39] <xpistos> thanks k11
[20:40] <xpistos> bekks: sorry. I should have been more lcear
[20:40] <xpistos> clear
[20:40] <xpistos> ... facepalm
[20:43] <prevailprec> hello world
[20:48] <Thaxll> Hi, is there a way to ignore dns servers from dhcp in the /etc/network/interfaces? I know that one from redhat but can't find anything in debian like distro?
[20:49] <sebastianstudio>  hey. i want to run "a2jmidid -e" in startup script in QJackCtl but it doesnt really work. Can someone help me?
[20:52] <newuser420> So what do I need to install to detect and rip a win7 iso from this disc?
[20:53] <newuser420> The disc has stuff on it, the drive is functional, my distro is stable and up-to-date, but it can't read the blocks from the disc- I was told it may be an issue with NTFS detection...?
[20:54] <newuser420> Problem is that my buddy's laptop disc drive broke so he needs me to rip the ISO from the disc and make a live-usb, but I can't do that if I can't see the contents of the disc :/
[20:54] <daftykins> newuser420: windows CDs are *not* NTFS, either you can read it or you can't
[20:55] <newuser420> The disc is pretty clean though...I don't know what the problem is
[20:55] <daftykins> newuser420: do you have access to a working windows machine? you're not going to be able to make a bootable flash drive with ubuntu afaik
[20:56] <SchrodingersScat> daftykins: no? I would think it would be much easier to make in ubuntu.
[20:57] <xMopxShell> hi, is the patched openssl for heartbleed in official repos yet?
[20:57] <daftykins> xMopxShell: yes and has been for days
[20:57] <bekks> xMopxShell: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[20:57] <newuser420> Why can't I make a bootable windows live-usb with ubuntu?
[20:57] <daftykins> bekks: we really need a factoid :( heh
[20:57] <xMopxShell> hmm. daftykins: i've updated and upgrade a mail server and imaps is still vulnerable.
[20:57] <bekks> daftykins: Yeah :(
[20:57] <k1l> !sslbug
[20:58] <bekks> xMopxShell: how do you now?
[20:58] <daftykins> SchrodingersScat: well the MS provided boot image writer is a .exe, though granted there are other ways to do it
[20:58] <bekks> k1l: \o/
[20:58] <xMopxShell> bekks: i ran that python script against it
[20:58] <xMopxShell> sec, ill find it.
[20:58] <daftykins> k1l: *hug*
[20:58] <Giles1> Hi... I logged this bug in Qt: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-38125 I've since realised that 1) it had nothing to do with Qt, and it was something broken in saucy, and 2) its apparently fixed in trusty. How can I track down the cause, can the fix be backported to saucy?
[20:58] <bekks> xMopxShell: which ubuntu release do you run?
[20:58] <k1l> (it was not my work, but i take the credit ;p )
[20:58] <bekks> xMopxShell: And did you restart as suggested?
[20:58] <xMopxShell> bekks: http://pastebin.com/WmxzjkXJ this script
[20:59] <xMopxShell> Hmmm I don't recall if I rebooted. Ill try that now.
[20:59] <newuser420> dafty, you can write an image file with any program, doesn't have to be an .exe o.O
[20:59] <bekks> xMopxShell: which ubuntu release do you run?
[20:59] <xMopxShell> Ill check when it's back up. its either 13.10 or 13.4 64bit
[20:59] <bekks> xMopxShell: which one of those?
[20:59] <ubunnoob> hi guys am in hot waters here.  i forgot my password to log into ubuntu. how do i reset it?
[20:59] <bekks> xMopxShell: 13.04 is end of support.
[20:59] <xMopxShell> I don't recall. Ill check in a sec
[21:00] <newuser420> brb, I'm going to reboot my machine and see if it gives me a prompt to install win7, to see if there's a problem with the disc or not
[21:00] <uagent> any chrome/chromium user around? - i need a favour :)
[21:00] <xMopxShell> bekks: yeah, its 13.04. So would the update not be coming to that?
[21:01] <bekks> xMopxShell: 13.04 will not be updated anymore.
[21:01] <k1l> !password
[21:01] <xMopxShell> I see. so I would need to upgrade. thanks!
[21:01] <bekks> xMopxShell: you have to update to 13.10
[21:01] <k1l> ubunnoob: see ^
[21:01] <xMopxShell> upgrading distros always makes me nervous :)
[21:01] <xMopxShell> thanks, though!
[21:01] <SchrodingersScat> daftykins: I was thinking one could dd the cd, or whatever approved method for reading the disk into an iso, then dd it onto the liveusb, etc.
[21:02]  * Giles1 wonders what an S-cat is.
[21:02] <bekks> Giles1: A weird creature between life and death.
[21:02] <k1l> xMopxShell: upgrade are automated tested in ubuntu since some time and work better then before. but be aware of murphys law
[21:02] <xMopxShell> Haha yep. I'm in esxi luckily, so ill do a snapshot.
[21:02] <Giles1> bekks: Thanks for clearing that up.
[21:03] <Neo01> hello world!
[21:03] <Giles1> Neo01: A bot test program.
[21:04] <Neo01> what?
[21:04] <Giles1> Neo01: Usually "hello world!" is the first program you learn to write.
[21:05] <Neo01> i just installed irssi on my linux OS
[21:05] <Neo01> just testing it out on this channel
[21:05] <SchrodingersScat> Neo01: wonderful
[21:05] <Giles1> This is hardly "the world" but ok.
[21:06] <k1l> Giles1:  Neo01: we have a offtopic channel for chitchat. please stick to technical ubuntu support in here.
[21:06] <Neo01> hahahah it is the world confined within this channel
[21:06] <Giles1> k1l: Hi... I logged this bug in Qt: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-38125 I've since realised that 1) it had nothing to do with Qt, and it was something broken in saucy, and 2) its apparently fixed in trusty. How can I track down the cause, can the fix be backported to saucy?
[21:09] <Giles1> k1l: Any idea who to ask about this?
[21:10] <k1l> Giles1: best is to file a ubuntu bug in launchpad.net. and then talk there to the maintainer of qt in ubuntu
[21:10] <k1l> !bug | Giles1
[21:13] <Bootinbull> Has anyone had to deal with multiple sites on one server - and how to control the $ENV{'SERVER_NAME'} variable... make it the correct name for each site? I see a lot out there about multiple site config, but this isn't mentioned.
[21:14] <skypeSvenAERTS> Hi I’ve got a One Laptop Per Child XO.  I got an error message appearing telling me I have to install GStremer ffmpeg video plugin.  But when want to do that, I get an error message "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isnt' associated with any program.  What now? Thy
[21:15] <uagent> no one using chrome/chromium?? ^^
[21:15] <Jordan_U> skypeSvenAERTS: What version of Ubuntu are you running on this XO?
[21:15] <k1l> uagent: choose as you like
[21:16] <Bashing-om> uagent: I run Google-Chrome on 13.10, what is your request ?
[21:16] <uagent> Bashing-om: thanks for responding! could you please visit this website: https://panopticlick.eff.org, and paste me back (PM) the results?
[21:17] <trinode> I know about the +1 channel, but it's always so quiet in there.... anyone have issues with Lenovo ThinkPads completely refusing to boot ubuntu in uefi mode?
[21:17] <Bashing-om> uagent: I'll look.
[21:18] <Jordan_U> trinode: This channel is only for support of supported versions of Ubuntu.
[21:18] <trinode> OK
[21:18] <Bootinbull> Has anyone had to deal with multiple sites on one server - and how to control the $ENV{'SERVER_NAME'} variable... make it the correct name for each site? I see a lot out there about multiple site config, but this isn't mentioned.
[21:18] <trinode> Using 13.10, anyone have issues with Lenovo ThinkPads completely refusing to boot ubuntu in uefi mode?
[21:18] <Johnny_Linux> sheesh
[21:18] <mwic> can someone help me connect to my VSFTP server on 12.4,  which claims that it's running
[21:19] <mwic> i'm getting connection timeout from gFTP
[21:19] <Bashing-om> uagent: nope, I do not ultimately trust the source.
[21:19] <mwic> It's quite flaky, though .. I was able to connect with certain hostnames (not the IP address) and I think regular FTP instead of FTPS
[21:19] <uagent> Bashing-om: eh? which source? and why not?
[21:20] <OerHeks> trinode, there are a lot of thinkpads, what thinkpad do you have?
[21:20] <Bashing-om> uagent: tracking information, and what might be shared.
[21:20] <trinode> OerHeks: L540
[21:20] <k1l> uagent: since that is not plain ubuntu support would you mind to put that topic into #ubuntu-offtopic ? thanks
[21:20] <SchrodingersScat> Bashing-om: right, it's eff though; fair if you trust no-one
[21:21] <uagent> Bashing-om: well, you give that with every click you make :) i don't see the harm, but ok, thanks for checking it out anyway
[21:21] <uagent> k1l: sure, sorry
[21:24] <OerHeks> trinode, read a lot about bricked T540's, some say l540 too
[21:24] <trinode> OerHeks: what?!?
[21:25] <OerHeks> trinode, in german http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/UEFI-Linux-kann-aktuelle-Thinkpads-beschaedigen-2105920.html
[21:25] <skypeSvenAERTS> Jordan_U: I can’t find it. In the terminal I followed these instructions “Open the Terminal (keyboard shortcut: Ctrl+Alt+T)
[21:25] <skypeSvenAERTS> Enter the command lsb_release -a”
[21:25] <skypeSvenAERTS> Jordan_U: but it reads: command not found ...
[21:26] <Jordan_U> skypeSvenAERTS: What is the exact and complete error message, word for word?
[21:27] <Evilmax> hi all
[21:27] <Evilmax> could be dangerous drop the file exstantion if i know the exstansion?
[21:27] <Evilmax> for example rename pic.png to simply pic
[21:27] <Evilmax> and use it
[21:28] <SchrodingersScat> Evilmax: depends, ubuntu itself generally doesn't seem to care, other programs might
[21:28] <skypeSvenAERTS> Jordan_U: bash: lsb_release: command not found
[21:28] <trinode> OerHeks: damn! I wonder if they've fixed it yet
[21:28] <Evilmax> i have to show those pictures in web site
[21:28] <Evilmax> www-data will handle them
[21:28] <trinode> I updated the firmware when I got it yesterday
[21:28] <Jordan_U> skypeSvenAERTS: Then it appears you're not using Ubuntu at all.
[21:28] <k1l> skypeSvenAERTS: what system is that?
[21:29] <Evilmax> what do you think, SchrodingersScat?
[21:29] <Evilmax> www-data will use them
[21:29] <Jordan_U> skypeSvenAERTS: Try asking in #olpc-help, or ##linux.
[21:29] <SchrodingersScat> Evilmax: then really I think that's asking if apache2 cares, or maybe client end like firefox/chromium/etc.
[21:30] <SchrodingersScat> Evilmax: test one and see how it goes?
[21:30] <Evilmax> yes, i tested
[21:30] <Evilmax> it works
[21:30] <Evilmax> but i have some doubts about security
[21:31] <SchrodingersScat> Evilmax: not sure what you mean, unless you can elaborate.
[21:31] <skypeSvenAERTS> Jordan_U: I’m asking there… but there’s nobody around.
[21:31] <Evilmax> for example...my upload form checks exstension
[21:31] <Evilmax> it must be png or jpg
[21:31] <Evilmax> then it rename file, dropping exstension
[21:31] <Evilmax> it is sufficient for security this simple check?
[21:32] <Jordan_U> skypeSvenAERTS: That unfotunately doesn't make this the right channel, as you're not using Ubuntu.
[21:32] <k1l> Evilmax: the file extension is not a security index.
[21:32] <Evilmax> or i have to use something like md5...i don't know
[21:32] <Evilmax> if someone upload a dangerous file with png exstension?
[21:32] <Evilmax> could be dangerous?
[21:33] <Evilmax> sorry my bad english
[21:33] <OerHeks> trinode, if that firmware recent, you are fine.
[21:33] <mpmc> Hey guys, I just had a weird bug, I got trapped in the desktop switcher! I attempted to move xchat to a new space and it got stuck between two workspaces! couldn't exit had to reboot!
[21:33] <SchrodingersScat> Evilmax: that's over my head, I'm not experienced enough to know what would be a risk or not, in that situation.
[21:33] <Slade-> so for some reason apt-get is keeping a few packages back when i try to do a 'apt-get upgrade'   .. any ideas why?  linux-image-generic python3-distupgrade ubuntu-release-upgrader-core
[21:34] <Evilmax> of course i will use "img" tag for use that file...but if it is a executable?
[21:34] <Evilmax> an executable with ong fake exstension
[21:34] <Evilmax> i am a newbie too...
[21:34] <Evilmax> only doubts
[21:34] <Evilmax> ong=png* sorry
[21:35] <k1l> Slade-: apt-get dist-upgrade   # no that will not bring you to a new ubuntu version
[21:35] <k1l> !apt | Slade- see this for more informations
[21:36] <pw_> Can you come here for help on printer use in ubuntu 12.04?
[21:36] <Slade-> k1l: i usually use do-release-upgrade for new upgrade.. hmm
[21:36] <bng> hi all my Smuxi IRC client just freezes randomly, does anyone else experience thi annoyance?
[21:36] <k1l> Slade-: apt-get upgrade cant install new packages that is apt-get dist-upgrade for. for more explanation see the docs
[21:36] <Slade-> none of them seem to be the release that fixes hearthbleed tho :P
[21:37] <Slade-> k1l: yea reading, thanks :)
[21:37] <skypeSvenAERTS> Jordan_U: I see this gnome symbol at the top left.
[21:37] <Coffid> Evening - is there anyone around who can help me out with a dual boot drama??
[21:38] <k1l> Slade-: apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade has nothing to do with ubuntu version upgrades.
[21:38] <Slade-> k1l: yea noticing that now.
[21:38] <Jordan_U> skypeSvenAERTS: This is neither #olpc-help, nor ##linux.
[21:38] <k1l> !sslbug > Slade- see this why you are looking at the wrong spot
[21:38] <bng> I know Smuxi bugs are not Ubuntu bugs, but I am just getting more and more upset with Ubuntu...
[21:38] <unkerror> is there a simple command-line to upgrade to a new ubuntu release?
[21:38] <Slade-> distupgrade failed
[21:38] <bng> Or what IRC clients are you using?
[21:38] <k1l> unkerror: "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[21:39] <unkerror> k1l: thanks
[21:39] <Guest46529> for a macbook air with a MS-DOS fat partitition, should I boot with rEFIt and use a flash drive or what?
[21:39] <k1l> bng: irssi, xchat, ... use what you want
[21:39] <skypeSvenAERTS> Jordan_U: I found a gnome channel ... let me see who's going to be faster the linux channel or gnome channel. Thy Jordan.
[21:39] <phoebe2> test ddaa
[21:39] <k1l> Slade-: dist-upgrade
[21:39] <phoebe2> LOL it is working
[21:39] <bng> k1l: I do, I installed Smuxi, but it just randomly freezes
[21:39] <Slade-> yea
[21:40] <bng> k1l: will try those, thank you
[21:40] <Slade-> k1l: ran into a different issue, fixing :)
[21:40] <unkerror> bng: you can also try Konversation
[21:40] <k1l> Slade-: put all commands and output into a pastebin and show the link here
[21:40] <unkerror> I found that it worked better on my system then others I tried
[21:40] <k1l> !bug | unkerror
[21:40] <Slade-> k1l: nah its not that.. i have too many images on the boot partition gotta clean i tup
[21:41] <bng> unkerror: might do that, KDE apps are often the only hope (unless they burry me under buttons and setting dialogues)
[21:41] <Guest46529> Quick question, do I install from the rEFIt boot or install from the origin OS?
[21:42] <phoebe2> test
[21:43] <bng> BTW speaking of buggy Ubuntu, does anyone still experience unity-panel-service (or something like that) and/or hud-service just eating CPU time?
[21:43] <phoebe2> I am testing printing sorry for spamming
[21:43] <bng> because I do, I remember this bug or two for at least a year
[21:43] <unkerror> bng: happy to say I don't experience Unity, at all :)
[21:43] <Jordan_U> phoebe2: In the future, please use ##test, so that you don't have to apologize.
[21:43] <k1l> !tests | phoebe2
[21:43] <KeithLG> Online
[21:43] <k1l> !test | phoebe2
[21:43] <KeithLG> Offline
[21:44] <phoebe2> sorry, i am leaving
[21:46] <snoooop> hi, I am looking for a application that let me write what I am going to do the next 40 minutes and then countdown until then. Do anybody know about such an application ?
[21:47] <snoooop> or just a free alarm clock ?
[21:47] <jd_68> did canonical issue the libssl fix yet??
[21:47] <bng> unkerror: you actually pointed me to the topic with KDE :) I am currently using Unity because of its UI design, but the technical side just leaves an impression of being crappy and not developing much
[21:47] <unkerror> bng: I personally just don't like Unity's UI design ;)
[21:47] <SchrodingersScat> !info alarm-clock | snoooop
[21:48] <SchrodingersScat> snoooop: not sure if there's anything exactly like you want, you could probably combine a few programs to do it.
[21:48] <hroberts89436> can someone give me some idea why I get this error:
[21:48] <unkerror> jd_68: the openssl bug was patched on monday for ubuntu
[21:48] <hroberts89436> http://pastie.org/9064875
[21:49] <jd_68> unkerror: thanks
[21:49] <unkerror> jd_68: the version number did not change though, the fix was simply backported to the released version
[21:49] <hroberts89436> It happens when attempting to sudo update-rc.d mpd enable
[21:49] <k1l> !sslbug > jd_68
[21:49] <jd_68> unkerror: was it available for 12.04 lts?
[21:49] <unkerror> jd_68: yes
[21:50] <trinode> Hmm, I have to enable CSM to boot ubuntu, is that expected or can it run in pure UEFI mode?
[21:50] <k1l> jd_68: see the bots message
[21:51] <Jordan_U> trinode: Ubuntu supports UEFI.
[21:51] <hroberts89436> can someone give me some idea why I get this error: http://pastie.org/9064875. It happens when I sudo update-rc.d mpd enable. and how can I resolve it?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> trinode: Are you having trouble booting an Ubuntu liveCD/USB, or your installed system?
[21:52] <bng> unkerror: on one hand I like the top panel, the way it moves away lot of unnecessary stuff, and how it integrates menus of the running program. On the other hand it's just plain crappy in some areas...
[21:52] <snoooop> SchrodingersScat,  do you mean I should run " sudo apt-get install alarm-clock" ?   I did that earlier and something got installed.  The problem is that I don't know how to run the application, maybe it is broken ?
[21:53] <intx> where's the faq on heartbleed
[21:53] <SchrodingersScat> snoooop: I don't think the binary is alarm-clock, I think it's just 'alarmclock', open up a terminal and type 'alarm' then tab complete and see what your options are.
[21:53] <unkerror> bng: I prefer a lightweight GUI with a simple list of programs that I have installed (ie. xfce)
[21:53] <trinode> Jordan_U: it boots the DVD, installs, then when it tries to boot, it has a black screen with a non flashing cursor for 10 or so seconds then drops back to the bios boot device list
[21:53] <k1l> !sslbug | intx
[21:54] <hroberts89436> can someone give me some idea why I get this error: http://pastie.org/9064875. It happens when I sudo update-rc.d mpd enable. and how can I resolve it?
[21:54] <bng> unkerror: couldn't it just remember the stupid corners settings, I mean every time? (for the compiz windows composing)
[21:54] <SchrodingersScat> snoooop: but yes, i was suggesting you take a look at the alarm-clock package, there are probably a few options out there and it is one.
[21:54] <bng> unkerror: yes, me too :) That's why I left KDE back in the early version 4 times
[21:55] <Jordan_U> trinode: Are you currently booted into Ubuntu?
[21:56] <trinode> Jordan_U: no, but I can in a while if you have an idea?
[21:56] <snoooop> SchrodingersScat,   stupid of me to not check that,, thanks
[21:56] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. whenever I plug in a new external drive (usb, etc.) the computer automatically scans it with EasyTag, the music/mp3 file tagger. I don't know why and how can I stop this? Thanks.
[21:56] <bng> unkerror: Why can't just KDE have some real designers, all that button bloat is terrible... Or why did Cannonical not choose to build on top of KDE?
[21:57] <SchrodingersScat> snoooop: not at all, I made the same mistake originally, it's why I remembered.
[21:57] <k1l> bng: well, that is way out of topic for this technical support channel :)
[21:57] <unkerror> bng: I don't know, but at least we have a choice :)
[21:57] <unkerror> bng: unlike those poor windows users
[21:57] <intx> oh interesting, ubuntu patched heartbleed automatically (unattended upgrades), but it didn't restart the webserver so I was still vulnerable
[21:58] <intx> so as a PSA, restart any services that depend on openssl
[21:58] <k1l> intx: well, that is a admins task, not ubuntus
[21:58] <daftykins> intx: good to know :)
[21:58] <hroberts89436> can someone give me some idea why I get this error: http://pastie.org/9064875. It happens when I sudo update-rc.d mpd enable. and how can I resolve it?
[21:58] <intx> k1l: it is :) but not one I was apparently aware of
[21:58] <daftykins> hroberts89436: looks like you don't have an init script
[21:58] <bng> unkerror: not enough of it, maybe? k1l: sorry, the question with unity-panel-service still stands :)
[21:58] <SchrodingersScat> hroberts89436: where did you get that command? ie. why did you try to run that line?
[21:58] <snoooop> SchrodingersScat,  I see,    :  )
[21:59] <hroberts89436> daftykins. the script is in the init.d directory
[21:59] <bng> does anyone else here use Smuxi?
[21:59] <hroberts89436> SchrodingersCat. I am trying to enable the service
[21:59] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | trinode
[21:59] <daftykins> bng: never heard of it
[21:59] <SchrodingersScat> hroberts89436: have you checked if 'sudo service mpd start' works?
[22:00] <hroberts89436> schrodingerscat: it does work. I would like it to start on boot
[22:00] <arthurdent> what is the most minimal available installation of ubuntu?
[22:00] <hroberts89436> schrodingerscat: actually it did not work
[22:00] <k1l> arthurdent: if you mean which standarddesktop: Lubuntu
[22:01] <hroberts89436> schrodingersscat: actually it did not work
[22:01] <SchrodingersScat> hroberts89436: k, I don't use mpd, so I'm little help past that try.
[22:01] <k1l> arthurdent: or go with server/minimal install and go by yourself
[22:01] <arthurdent> k1l: no i mean the smallest installed image in terms of disk space
[22:01] <hroberts89436> they sent me over here to you guys
[22:02] <hroberts89436> schrodingersscat: they sent me over here to you guys
[22:02] <tjmehta> how do i install linux-image-extra-`uname -r`
[22:02] <tjmehta> when my uname -r is linux-image-extra-3.13.3-tinycore64
[22:03] <tjmehta> when my uname -r (kernel) is 3.13.3-tinycore64
[22:03] <ikonia> tjmehta: you're not using ubuntu
[22:03] <ikonia> tjmehta: you're using a tiny core spin based on ubuntu
[22:03] <ubunnoob> can u use teamviewer on ubuntu?
[22:03] <ikonia> tjmehta: so the ubuntu repos won't have software for you, and this channel doesn't support your distro
[22:03] <k1l> tjmehta: please ask that the support of that OS
[22:03] <tjmehta> Linux 5b46b2136d5c 3.13.3-tinycore64 #1 SMP Wed Mar 12 05:35:38 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:03] <tjmehta> it is sauce in docker
[22:04] <ikonia> tjmehta: you've said the kernel 3 times now - it's not ubuntu
[22:04] <tjmehta> i see
[22:04] <ikonia> tjmehta: it's a tinycore spin
[22:04] <tjmehta> sorry
[22:06] <OerHeks> ubunnoob, sure, but teamviewer is not in our repos, see their website
[22:06] <SchrodingersScat> ubunnoob: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx as much as they will let you
[22:08] <ubunnoob> thanks
[22:12] <ubunnoob> is ubuntu ONE getting shut down?
[22:12] <k1l> ubuntu one file sync. yes
[22:13] <SchrodingersScat> !info owncloud | ubunnoob
[22:16] <Nyasper> Error: Invalid Extent prompt at boot up.
[22:16] <Nyasper> What do I do?
[22:18] <Jordan_U> Nyasper: Do you have backups of all your important data?
[22:18] <bng> do you people experience picture artifacts while playing videos in VLC? I run into them even though they should be without errors - I verify them with checksum
[22:18] <Nyasper> ...other than windows 98 virtual box yeah.
[22:18] <Nyasper> What's wrong with it?
[22:18] <Nyasper> it suddenly started doing it on the desktop but not on the laptop
[22:19] <bng> and when I shuffle back few seconds it is played correctly
[22:19] <bng> it happens every now and then, my RAM is fine, I experience no data corruptions elsewhere
[22:21] <bekks> Nyasper: Actually you are using ext4, are you?
[22:21] <Nyasper> I don't know?
[22:21] <Jordan_U> Nyasper: It's hard to tell from that (seemingly) partial error message, but it sounds veguely like filesystem corruption.
[22:21] <bekks> Nyasper: look at "mount" then.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> !fsck | Nyasper
[22:22] <Nyasper> I have a hard time on this computer especially it lags like a monster and is a windows seven mainly.
[22:23] <Nyasper> Okay I have the file system mounted
[22:23] <Nyasper> what do I do?
[22:23] <ubunnoob> is it better to use a VM for ubuntu or have it has a dual boot alongside windows?
[22:23] <Nyasper> All the files are here.
[22:23] <SchrodingersScat> ubunnoob: define 'better'
[22:24] <Nyasper> how do I tell if it's ext4?
[22:24] <Nyasper> Before my dog decides it needs to go pee.
[22:24] <Nyasper> \: Please.
[22:24] <DarkAceXtreme> how do I emulate a virtual linux?
[22:25] <bekks> DarkAceXtreme: Either you emulate it, or you virtualize it.
[22:25] <ubunnoob> SchrodingersScat less risk of having corrupt hard disk?
[22:25] <DarkAceXtreme> lol
[22:25] <DarkAceXtreme> I'm asking here because I don't know what I'm talking about and don't know what to search for on da goorgles
[22:25] <bekks> DarkAceXtreme: that wasnt a joke. :P
[22:25] <DarkAceXtreme> yeah
[22:26] <bekks> DarkAceXtreme: Then what are you actually trying to do?
[22:26] <Nyasper> bekks, Its using ext3/4
[22:26] <DarkAceXtreme> I want to run a new ubuntu inside my current installation
[22:26] <SchrodingersScat> ubunnoob: sounds subjective, I trust some OS less than others, the answer could change per person.
[22:26] <DarkAceXtreme> I'm trying to create a wiki page on how to set up a program, and it'd be best if I used a new system
[22:27] <bekks> Nyasper: ext3 doesnt use extents, so your ext4 filesystem(s) are corrupted. Run an offline fsck -f as has been suggested already
[22:27] <DarkAceXtreme> (a specific program)
[22:27] <Nyasper> how do I run that? from grub rescue?
[22:27] <bekks> DarkAceXtreme: Then run a virtual machine, and install a guest vm. You can do that with VirtualBox
[22:27] <bekks> !fsck | Nyasper
[22:27] <Nyasper> Considering I can't boot into that os...
[22:28] <bekks> Nyasper: Then you need a livecd.
[22:28] <Nyasper> Okay
[22:28] <ubunnoob> SchrodingersScat whats yours?
[22:29] <SchrodingersScat> ubunnoob: I don't trust windows to do anything, so I would say dual-boot or only a gnu/linux.
[22:29] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. whenever I plug in a new external drive (usb, etc.) the computer automatically scans it with EasyTag, the music/mp3 file tagger. I don't know why and how can I stop this? Thanks.
[22:30] <skinux> What do we do when sound and video stop working?
[22:31] <ubunnoob> SchrodingersScat me too
[22:31] <daftykins> skinkitten: we explain what we mean in detail
[22:32] <Smrtz> Hey, is there anything special involved in chownnig a /dev/tty?
[22:32] <skinkitten> daftykins, HUH?
[22:33] <gmachine_24> skinkitten, he/she is saying you must give more details........ who what why when how
[22:33] <skinkitten> OH IT MUST BE skiNUX WHO LEFT CARRY ON
[22:33] <gmachine_24> yes, it was skinux........ or whomever
[22:35] <daftykins> skinkitten: sorry, i didn't notice a user quit and tab complete fail'd :)
[22:36] <skinkitten> :]
[22:37] <DarkAceXtreme> what DE does ubuntu 13 use?
[22:37] <bekks> DarkAceXtreme: Ubuntu 13.10 uses Unity.
[22:40] <ubunnoob> got a small issue. just finish the last step of installing ubuntu and it ask me to restart my pc.... so i did and the disc ejected and i took out the cd and close the cd tray but my screen as gone black. should i hit the power button and turn off the pc?
[22:41] <bekks> ubunnoob: press a key first
[22:41] <ubunnoob> bekks lol thanks
[22:42] <daftykins> normally it displays "Remove the disc in the tray and press enter to reboot"
[22:42] <daftykins> but sometimes that goes funny
[22:43] <ubunnoob> it booted and i saw his after choose ubuntu the something   /map.. is not ready yet or not avaliable... (sorry i didnt get a chance to ready all the message)
[22:44] <gmachine_24> ubunnoob, might be bc you have an encrypted drive/partition
[22:44] <gmachine_24> that was actually a question on my part
[22:45] <ubunnoob> gmachine_24 i did encrypt my home when i was setting it home. anyways will this be a problem in the future bc of that message?
[22:45] <ki7rw> i recently installed a intel 7260 wifi card (802.11ac) into my laptop but iwconfig reports it as 802.11abgn - should i be concerned? dmesg & lspci shows the card. i don't have an ac router to test against
[22:46] <gmachine_24> ubunnoob, I get that message all the time on systems where I have encrypted either the home directory or the entire drive
[22:46] <bekks> ki7rw: No, why would you need to be concerned?
[22:46] <gmachine_24> ubunnoob, patience solves that problem
[22:46] <ki7rw> bekks: shouldn't iwconfig report it as 802.11ac?
[22:47] <bekks> ki7rw: Not if its an 802.11abgn
[22:47] <thinknow> How can i make openvpn with .conf and passphrase(when you start it up) and you have to change the nameservers (edit resolv.conf to the right nameservers ) I want it possible to make this happen automatically or permanent!
[22:48] <ki7rw> bekks: it's an ac card
[22:48] <bekks> ki7rw: Which model number very exactly is it?
[22:48] <ubunnoob> gmachine_24 so i shouldnt bothered?
[22:49] <gmachine_24> ubunnoob, correct
[22:49] <ki7rw> bekks: Intel Network 7260.HMWG WiFi Wireless-AC 7260 H/T Dual Band 2x2 AC+Bluetooth
[22:49] <gmachine_24> ubunnoob, my delay is usually in the 3-4 seconds range
[22:51] <bekks> ki7rw: Can you provide the device id please?
[22:52] <Nyasper> I ran fsck, came back clean
[22:52] <Nyasper> Cannot boot.
[22:52] <Nyasper> still gives me the error
[22:52] <bekks> Nyasper: did you run fsck or fsck -f?
[22:52] <Nyasper> fsck /dev/sdb1
[22:52] <bekks> Nyasper: I told oyu to run fsck -f
[22:52] <Nyasper> its an external hard drive.
[22:52] <Nyasper> ._. sorry
[22:53] <Nyasper> I printed out stuff but it didn't grab -f I guess.
[22:53] <Nyasper> Will try again...
[22:53] <bekks> Nyasper: yeah :)
[22:57] <johnnynobody> !ghost
[22:58] <ubunnoob> i downloaded teamviewer but it wouldnt let me installit
[22:59] <ubunnoob> "dependency is not satifiable:lib32asound2"
[23:00] <Nyasper> It repaired two things but won't boot.
[23:01] <daftykins> ubunnoob: did you pick 64 or 32-bit? which version do you have installed?
[23:01] <daftykins> (of ubuntu)
[23:02] <ubunnoob> ubunnoob 64
[23:02] <ubunnoob> ubunnoob my pc is a 64 bit
[23:02] <ubunnoob> according to "windows 7"
[23:02] <ubunnoob> i installed ubuntu 13.10 64 bits
[23:03] <daftykins> try the 32-bit instead
[23:03] <daftykins> (of teamviewer)
[23:04] <bekks> ubunnoob: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362951/install-teamviewer-using-a-64-bits-system-but-i-get-a-dependency-error
[23:04] <johnnynobody> !ghost
[23:04] <Nyasper> bekks: Well its still not letting me boot.
[23:05] <bekks> Nyasper: Why not?
[23:05] <Nyasper> Same error even though -f fixed two issues
[23:05] <johnnynobody> bekks: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 73)
[23:05] <ubunnoob> daftykins same issue with the 32 bits. will try the command in the answer that bekks shared
[23:05]  * johnnynobody is trying to ch ki7rwange nick back to
[23:06]  * johnnynobody is trying to change nick back to ki7rw
[23:06] <bekks> johnnynobody: Thats the pci bus id, not the device id.
[23:06] <Swank_> hey whats up. i was just wondering if anybody could give me a direct Xubuntu download without torrents involved.
[23:06] <bekks> Nyasper: Can you pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please?
[23:07] <Swank_> hey whats up. i was just wondering if anybody could give me a direct Xubuntu download without torrents involved.
[23:07] <teward> !repeat | Swank_
[23:07] <ubunnoob> bekks can u pm me for like 2 mins
[23:07] <bekks> ubunnoob: No. Please keep it in this channel please.
[23:07] <teward> Swank_, the xubuntu download page shows the country mirrors, which don't use torrents, pick the closest one and download it from there.
[23:08] <ubunnoob> okay bekss what irc do you use and is it free?
[23:08] <bekks> ubunnoob: the same as your, "freenode" and it is free.
[23:08] <Swank_> The mirrors don't really work... could you tell me how to use them?
[23:08] <bekks> *you
[23:08] <daftykins> i believe ubunnoob speaks of IRC clients
[23:08] <ubunnoob> okay bekss what irc CLIENT do you use and is it free?
[23:08] <bekks> ubunnoob: I am using irssi and it is free as well.
[23:09] <Swank_> The mirrors don't really work... could you tell me how to use them?
[23:09] <bekks> Swank_: Just click on the links?
[23:09] <Swank_> there are none?
[23:10] <Nyasper> bekks: Can I sudo fdisk -l with the external drive or no?
[23:10] <bekks> Swank_: so which country are you located in?
[23:10] <Swank_> I am located in the US
[23:10] <bekks> Nyasper: with all drives connected, please.
[23:10] <johnnynobody> bekks: is this what you're asking for? http://pastebin.com/VA6Be6hU
[23:10] <bekks> Swank_: They do work.
[23:10] <chinmaya> umm i was trying to install centos 6.5.. i got an error saying there was a problem with the media and thus installation stopped.. is there no other way than getting a new dvd?
[23:10] <bekks> johnnynobody: No :)
[23:11] <bekks> chinmaya: Ask the centos support please. This is ubuntu support only.
[23:11] <ubunnoob> bekks do u have the link to the link version please
[23:11] <chinmaya> i know.. but ..umm i cant find any centos support :/
[23:11] <Swank_> What do i do once i go to the US mirror>
[23:11] <bekks> ubunnoob: "sudo apt-get install irssi"
[23:11] <johnnynobody> bekks: so, how do i get that info?
[23:11] <bekks> Swank_: You download your desired iso
[23:12] <Swank_> where?
[23:12] <Nyasper> bekks, http://pastebin.com/afN8sTpk
[23:12] <Swank_> which iso do i download?
[23:12] <bekks> Swank_: The one you want?
[23:12] <bekks> johnnynobody: lspci -vn
[23:12] <daftykins> chinmaya: sorry, as mentioned you are in the wrong place. sounds like your download and/or burn went bad though. try burning to DVD again at the slowest possible speed after checking your download was perfect
[23:13] <Nyasper> U: I'm running off the 32 gb. The 1000gb one is the broken one er well, unbootable...
[23:13] <Swank_> bekks: would you happen to have skype?
[23:13] <bekks> Swank_: No.
[23:13] <chinmaya> well i burnt the dvd in k3b.. is there a difference which burning app i use?
[23:14] <bekks> chinmaya: Basically no.
[23:14] <daftykins> chinmaya: what did my message say?
[23:14] <Swank_> well shit... thanks for the advice, im kinda a Linux noov xDX
[23:14] <arfarf> hello
[23:15] <arfarf> Has anyone gotten ubuntu on virtualbox as a guest to see usb drives?
[23:15] <bekks> arfarf: Thousands of people did.
[23:15] <johnnynobody> bekks: try this: http://pastebin.com/xGx7EhMC
[23:15] <OP> Has anybody here tried out the latest 14.04 beta release?
[23:15] <arfarf> bekks: but when I try to add it to vboxusers like all the guides say I realise my user is already there as a vboxuser. So what else can i do?
[23:17] <ubunnoob> bekks i am getting "E: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - ..open (11: resource temporarilty unavailable)
[23:17] <lorddune> hello all, I checked my ISO file for integrity, everything is OK, need help figuring out why I cannot get it to install OS from USB stick
[23:18] <daftykins> ubunnoob: you probably have another program open trying to install or update software. check
[23:18] <ubunnoob> yes my bad
[23:18] <daftykins> lorddune: what happened upon attempting to install it?
[23:18] <lorddune> daftykins: it just hangs
[23:19] <lorddune> daftykins: loads splashscreen where you see "UBUNTU" and the keyboard and stickman
[23:19] <lorddune> daftykins: than after a few minutes it loads a crazy maze looking screen
[23:20] <daftykins> lorddune: do you know the spec of the system you're trying it on? also which did you download?
[23:20] <lorddune> daftykins: I looked at the process and some weird stuff seemed to be looping
[23:20] <lorddune> daftykins: I had the past 4 versions of Linux on here. Was only trying to install 12.4.04 LTS again
[23:20] <lorddune> daftykins: on a new HDD
[23:21] <bekks> arfarf: install the extension pack in the same version as vbox.
[23:21] <Nyasper> bekks: http://pastebin.com/afN8sTpk
[23:21] <Nyasper> did you get this?
[23:21] <lorddune> daftykins: maybe I should reformat and partition the HDD idk
[23:21] <bekks> johnnynobody: Seems like 8086:08b1 doesnt support 802.11ac while 8086:08b2 does.
[23:21] <daftykins> lorddune: is it brand new and so blank?
[23:22] <lorddune> daftykins: yes, but it's preformatted FAT, I was going to leave it that way in case I ever use windows
[23:22] <bekks> Nyasper: Looks good actually, I am out of ideas now.
[23:22] <lorddune> daftykins: not that I have to, but my previous HDD was the same setup
[23:22] <daftykins> lorddune: you had ubuntu installed to FAT?
[23:22] <lorddune> daftykins: yes, of course
[23:23] <lorddune> daftykins: so you can dual boot
[23:23] <daftykins> i'm not even sure that's possible... maybe for a shared volume but not for /
[23:23] <daftykins> also ubuntu can safely read and write from NTFS since years now, so i wouldn't see any reason to bother
[23:23] <lorddune> daftykins: maybe I am saying it wrong. it's preformatted standard way. not Linux way.
[23:23] <daftykins> lorddune: i guess the true test would be if your USB boots fine without a disk attached
[23:23] <Nyasper> I have no idea what's wrong, it just might be this computer if the laptop can run the OS just fine..
[23:23] <Nyasper> \:
[23:24] <Nyasper> this computer is a load of suck
[23:24] <johnnynobody> bekks: i gues i'm a victim of fraud? it's advertised as 802.11ac
[23:24] <daftykins> Nyasper: please be careful to keep your language family friendly
[23:24] <lorddune> daftykins: I can plug in old HDD (it's going to crash any moment) and machine loads
[23:24] <lorddune> daftykins: I can load a boot OS with a disc also
[23:24] <bekks> johnnynobody: MAybe you can contact Intel to verify before accusing someone of fraud :)
[23:24] <lorddune> daftykins: just cannot seem to figure out whats wrong with this stick
[23:25] <daftykins> lorddune: maybe give it a good zero fill and recreate it?
[23:25] <lorddune> daftykins: it's not the iso file, it's a bunch of files
[23:25] <johnnynobody> bekks: well, if you insist
[23:25] <lorddune> daftykins: with an executable file
[23:25] <bekks> johnnynobody: It would be just fair before accusing someone :)
[23:25] <bekks> johnnynobody: And Intel really should know every detail about their devices :)
[23:25] <lorddune> daftykins: do I need to go in settings and allow that exe file to run??
[23:26] <lorddune> daftykins: i mean there is no OS at all while I am trying to do this install
[23:26] <lorddune> daftykins: I'm a bit of a dummy when it comes to this stuff I guess
[23:27] <linuxuz3r> ;(
[23:27] <Kamilion> how do i fix heartbleed on 13.04?
[23:27] <lyy> hi
[23:27] <bekks> Kamilion: By upgrading to 13.10
[23:27] <lorddune> daftykins: I'd follow the instructions on Ubuntu, but there's nothing explaing why it isn't working
[23:27] <Kamilion> no can do, 13.10 breaks our software
[23:27] <bekks> Kamilion: 13.04 is end of support since January
[23:27] <Kamilion> 14.04 doesn't
[23:27] <bekks> Kamilion: Then you cant fix it. Support ended in January for 13.10
[23:28] <Kamilion> Okay, fine, then I'll just apt-src it. Sheesh.
[23:28] <stephan> i ll fix it for $5000
[23:28] <bekks> Kamilion: Or upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04
[23:28] <stephan> jk :)
[23:28] <stephan> ormaybe
[23:28] <Kamilion> 14.04's not RTM yet
[23:28] <johnnynobody> bekks: this is where i bought it and you can see in the description that it's 802.11ac - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Network-7260-HMWG-WiFi-Wireless-AC-7260-H-T-Dual-Band-2x2-AC-Bluetooth-/221261687154
[23:28] <daftykins> stephan: not appropriate.
[23:28] <Kamilion> boss won't let me deploy it
[23:29] <delinquentme> SOooooo
[23:29] <lyy> i have a script i want to run when ubuntu comes up after reboot/restart - what's the easiest way to do this?
[23:29] <delinquentme> I should be patched for the heartbleed asap huh?
[23:29] <stephan> my bad
[23:29] <daftykins> lorddune: right but you put the ISO onto the USB flash drive right? so... do that again
[23:29] <bekks> Kamilion: Good luck then. You are running an unsupported version since january and now you are concerned about installing 14.04?
[23:29] <bekks> !sslbug | delinquentme
[23:29] <Kamilion> No, not really
[23:29] <Kamilion> rather pissed off that ubuntu-builder decided to close up shop just before 14.04
[23:30] <lorddune> daftykins: I did, but it unpacked it I guess when I attempted to install??
[23:30] <Kamilion> so now I have to fix that for trusty too, so I can regenerate our ISOs
[23:30] <daftykins> lorddune: how did you make up the flash drive?
[23:30] <bekks> Kamilion: No one closed shop whatsoever. The release plan was published a long time ago.
[23:30] <bekks> Kamilion: You did not update. Thats the only error so far.
[23:30] <Kamilion> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-builder/+announcement/12508
[23:30] <Kamilion> yeah, nobody closed shop whatsoever. Sure.
[23:30] <arthurdent> is it possible to mount over the /bin directory? i tried it in fstab and i assume it can't do it because it's in use at the time that fstab is read
[23:31] <lorddune> i downloaded from Ubuntu and did a 5DSUM check it all was fine
[23:31] <bekks> Kamilion: Yeah, and you updated to an supported version already. :P
[23:32] <lorddune> daftykins: i got file from Ubuntu website and did a 5DSUM check it was perfect file
[23:32] <daftykins> lorddune: yes i know you obtained the ISO but there's the bit between that downloaded file and it appearing on the USB flash drive... ;)
[23:32] <lorddune> ohhhhh
[23:32] <ubunnoob> bekks do u run irssi in terminal?
[23:32] <bekks> ubunnoob: Since it is a terminal application, yes.
[23:33] <lorddune> daftykins: good point. i did all this at 3 am last night, that didn't even occur to me until just now
[23:33] <lorddune> daftykins: i guess I should format my stick too lol
[23:34] <daftykins> lorddune: yes :)
[23:34] <lorddune> daftykins: thanks a lot  I hope this works!
[23:35] <lorddune> daftykins: can you give me 1 more peice of advice
[23:35] <daftykins> sure
[23:35] <daftykins> if i know, anyway
[23:35] <lorddune> daftykins: someone suggested I hot swap the new HDD in while I have the old HDD connected. My feeling was to do a clean install on the new HDD. What say you?
[23:36] <daftykins> you could use that as a backup plan
[23:37] <lorddune> daftykins: well, everytime i look it has more bad sectors. it's gonna be a brick soon. so ever time i power it down it gets worse
[23:38] <lorddune> daftykins: it's a 1 TB drive, how big of a partition should I leave for the OS if it's tweaked heavily?
[23:38] <bekks> lorddune: 30G
[23:38] <lorddune> daftykins: the old HDD is under warranty and has 2 TB storage so that storage isnt an issue
[23:39] <omlet> hello
[23:39] <omlet> j'ai mis à jour 13.04 à 13.10 j'ai ça quand je lance apache: [Thu Apr 10 01:43:03.880841 2014] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 6858] AH00173: SIGHUP received.  Attempting to restart
[23:39] <omlet> [Thu Apr 10 01:43:04.248628 2014] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 6858] AH00163: Apache/2.4.6 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.5.3-1ubuntu2.3 mod_scgi/1.13 OpenSSL/1.0.1e configured -- resuming normal operations
[23:39] <omlet> [Thu Apr 10 01:43:04.248749 2014] [core:notice] [pid 6858] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[23:39] <lorddune> bekks: 30 gig enough for old kernels if I upgrade and stuff?
[23:40] <lorddune> bekks: daftykins thanks guys, I'll give it a shot
[23:40] <bekks> lorddune: sure.
[23:43] <johnnynobody> bekks: thanks for your help - i sent intel an email - should get an answer in a couple of months (i hope)
[23:44] <OerHeks> omlet, 13.04 s EOl, so no ssl update
[23:45] <ubunnoob> i miss type my ubuntu name now do i change it please?
[23:45] <autojack> I'm trying to get wifi working on a laptop that has no other network interface. I copied over the necessary packages, and tried to install them with dpkg -i, but accidentally grabbed an i386 version instead of an amd64. now I'm in a weird state with that package, I can't seem to uninstall it but I also can't install the right amd64 version.
[23:46] <autojack> dpkg -l on the package name says it's state is 'in' which means not installed. but dpkg -r will not remove it.
[23:46] <autojack> and dpkg -i on the correct package now says it cannot be co-installed with the incorrect one.
[23:46] <autojack> anyone know how I can get out of this state?
[23:46] <OerHeks> ubunnoob, ubuntu name in what?
[23:46] <ubunnoob> OerHeks the logged in username
[23:48] <johnnynobody> autojack: have you tried to remove it with synaptic?
[23:49] <autojack> johnnynobody: no, I guess I'm just used to using the command line tools for everything.
[23:50] <OerHeks> ubuntulog, usermod -l *new username* *old username* #but that would not change the /home/ folder name
[23:50] <johnnynobody> autojack: sometimes the cli won't install packages but synaptic will - you should give it a try?
[23:51] <autojack> I don't see synaptic on here. how do I get to it?
[23:51] <autojack> this is a Precise usb stick live install.
[23:52] <johnnynobody> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[23:52] <autojack> can't do that with no network :)
[23:52] <johnnynobody> oops - my bad
[23:53] <johnnynobody> i guess you'll have to get to a pc on a network and d/l the deb file and then use dpkg  to install it - not sure of what the dependencies are though
[23:53] <arfarf> did anyone here ever get to attach a usb device to an ubuntu lucid virtualbox guest and solve the mystery of the no vboxusers being available? Where can I go to people that are nostalgic for past ubuntu versions?
[23:54] <autojack> yeah that's the hell I'm already in basically.
[23:55] <arfarf> no one?
[23:55] <Kamilion> arfarf: try adding the user to the vboxusers group
[23:56] <arfarf> Sure I would but amusingly there is no vboxusers group in 10.04, I thought I was tripping but then it was confirmed by someone else on a forum who was wondering why there was none
[23:57] <jacksina> Hello, I have managed to dig myself in a pretty deep hole. I used this guide (http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/how-to-mount-partitions-automatically.html) to make my hard drives mount at startup. However (please don't ask me why:C) I set the drives as read only (including my boot). I'm in recovery mode right now (normal bootup freezes). I tried deleting fstab to see if ubuntu would generate a new one (it didn't). I'm an idiot.
[23:57] <arfarf> I really love this old ubuntu version as I lose myself in the more recent ones and their weird desktop and higher ram requirements, so I would really be flushed if I can't get usb to work on it
[23:58] <arfarf> Do you think vboxusers could be absent because the update package hasn't been used and it's a barebone install?