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donixhello anyone available for some wine install help?06:25
jussidonix: there are normally a bunch of people idling, best just to ask and see if someone knows the answer06:26
donixok06:26
donixso ive downloaded wine but im brand new to kubuntu/linux so im not sure how to actually install and open06:27
valoriedonix: how did you download?06:35
valorie!wine06:35
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu06:35
valoriein linux, the safe way to install applications and other packages is in the software center or package manager06:36
valorieyou don't download stuff from random websites06:36
donixsorry, i downloaded from the site directly06:44
valoriejust delete that, and go through muon06:45
donixhow do i open/find the package manager? or i can put it in the terminal if needed06:45
donixok06:45
valorieor if you prefer the cli, `sudo apt-get install wine`06:45
valoriemuon is the software center we supply06:46
donixtried that and got this error in kterminal06:46
donixdpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.06:46
valorieah06:46
valorieand did dpkg fix things for ya?06:46
donixdidnt run it at first, i like to know what im typing in terminal before hand,, running it now06:48
valoriedpkg is the fundamental linux command which even apt-get uses06:48
donixok its done now, last bit was Processing triggers for libc-bin ...06:48
donixah sweet06:49
donixok so now i try apt-get again?06:49
valoriesure06:49
donixreading package lists...06:49
valorieif you want to read up on linux command, just `man dpkg` in the konsole06:49
valorieman=manual06:49
donixit complained about needing an update so im running apt-get update06:51
donixwhen i run sudo apt-get update // does it automatically install the packages? or do i need to run another line06:56
valoriesudo apt-get update - updates your source06:59
valoriesudo apt-get upgrade -- does the upgrade06:59
valoriesudo apt-get dist-upgrade - upgrades your applications as well06:59
valorieyou can run them chained, like: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:00
valoriewhich is what I do07:00
donixawesome, thanks, how often should i run that?07:01
donix(still waiting on update to finish)07:01
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valorieI"m running the beta for the next release, so I run it daily07:01
valoriemost people just wait for the security upgrade notification to pop up07:02
donixah ok07:02
donixis it grabbing everything over again or is this all new stuff? or has this much actually happened? i ran this about two weeks ago when i first installed07:03
valoriefirst it compares all the sources between the server and your computer, and downloads the changes07:04
valoriethen it analyzes what you have, and could upgrade07:04
valoriethen asks you if you want to do that upgrade07:04
valorieyou have to say `y`07:05
valorieor it won't finish07:05
valorieor n if you want to quit and do it later07:05
donixok, reading package lists... done07:05
donixso now: apt-get dist-upgrade :right?07:06
valoriethat's the `update` part07:06
valorieyes, but you have do do the sudo part as well07:06
valoriebecause that command needs root access07:06
donixok07:07
valorieone thing that saves me a lot of time - the up and down arrow07:07
valorieup takes you back to previous commands07:08
donixyeah, im in a class that uses redhat, so i know a few basic operation things thankfully07:08
valoriethe man command is really useful if you already know a bit07:08
valorieotherwise, google helps07:09
donixyeah, ive probably googled about 50 things by now07:09
donixi messed up my enter key entry doing xmodmap crap07:10
donixthat took about two days to realise i just needed to restart07:10
donix*bang~~~*07:10
donixwhile im waiting on the upgrade.. I would like to run Steam windows version in order to play some games not available for linux07:28
donixis it possible, and if so how do i go about doing that?07:29
valorie!steam07:30
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.07:30
valorieoh, windows version07:30
valoriewell, wine is how you play win stuff07:31
jussidonix: it is possible, and there are multiple guides are available07:31
jussiIf you need a hand gooogling for them, I can do that07:31
valorie!wine07:31
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu07:31
valoriemy son runs windows for WoW, and then linux in a VM for going online07:32
valoriewhich seems crazy, but he says that works best for him07:32
donixyeah, i have steamOS for linux, but a large majority of the games that i purchased/played arenot available07:33
hateballvalorie: Seems strange indeed, WoW worked great in Wine 5+ years ago, doubt it's worse now07:34
jussidonix: wine makes it pretty easy and a large amount of games work under it07:35
jussi!appdb07:35
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help07:35
donixwell im getting wine for civ v and hopefully image editor because it was very simple program and great for organizing07:37
donixbut i need the windows steam for some other rare titles, and EPSECIALLY War Thunder07:37
applelappalahello07:50
applelappalacan anyone help me how to install aircrack-ng on kubuntu?07:50
applelappala?????????????????????07:51
applelappalahello07:54
valorie!info aircrack-ng07:54
applelappalaANYone There07:54
applelappalaListening to me?07:54
applelappala@valorie07:55
ubottuaircrack-ng (source: aircrack-ng): wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-6 (saucy), package size 824 kB, installed size 2134 kB07:55
applelappalacan you help me in installing aircrack-ng?07:55
valorieok, so it's in the repos07:55
valoriejust install it like anything else07:55
valorieuse muon or the cli07:55
applelappalaits not happening07:55
lordievaderGood morning.07:55
valoriewhat have you tried, step by step?07:56
applelappalai tried sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng but got error like E:aircrack-ng package not found!07:56
valoriewhat version of kubuntu are you running, applelappala?07:56
applelappalaumm...07:57
lordievaderapplelappala: I usually download it through: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/aircrack-ng/07:57
applelappala12.0407:57
valorielordievader: why the deb?07:57
applelappalaand what about installation guide?07:58
Unit193!info aircrack-ng precise07:58
lordievadervalorie: Because back when I wanted it is wasn't in the repos.07:58
ubottuPackage aircrack-ng does not exist in precise07:58
lordievaderPersonal opinion, if you don't know how to install packages aircrack is probably not what you are looking for.07:58
applelappalais it possible to install aircrack-ng by adding ppa like ppa:add.... in konsole so that i can install it by apt-get install aircrack-ng08:01
valoriesuch a ppa would be very old08:01
applelappala????08:01
valorieby now08:01
applelappalaoh..08:02
valorie12.04 is almost 2 years old now08:02
valoriethe next LTS will be out in a few weeks08:02
applelappalaoo wait..08:02
* valorie is running the beta of Trusty now08:02
applelappalai download Kubuntu 12.04 LTS (Long Term Support)08:03
applelappalabefore this08:03
valorieright, that's what you said08:04
applelappalai had ubuntu 13.1008:04
valorieum08:04
valorieso why did you go backwards?08:04
valorieif you wanted kubuntu 13.10, all you had to do was install `kubuntu-desktop`08:05
applelappalaand i install kubuntu desktop environment with ubuntu! In that time i can install aircrack-ng in kubuntu just with terminal like sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng!08:05
valoriedid you read what I just said?08:05
valoriewhy did you go backwards?08:05
applelappalawhy it is now not possible ? i am using oldest version of kde is this the reason?08:05
applelappalaoh..08:06
valorieyou went from fresh to old08:06
valoriewhy?08:06
applelappala?08:06
applelappalacan i install it with kubuntu08:06
applelappalayeh..08:06
valorieyes, as we've told you multiple times08:06
applelappala:(08:06
applelappala@valorie when will be the 13.10 LTS will be release? (release date)08:09
valorie!release08:09
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases08:09
valorie13.10 has been out for months08:10
applelappalaThank you08:10
valorie14.04 will be out in a few weeks, as I said08:10
applelappalaDo you know the exact date?08:11
lordievaderapplelappala: Why do you want aircrack-ng?08:11
lordievaderAlso the target date of 14.04 is the 17th.08:11
valoriehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule08:11
applelappalato see the bssid, mac address and chanel info for reaver wpa hacking08:12
applelappalai had already installed reaver08:12
lordievaderYou do realize that wpa is aes and will take you quite a few years (on a powerfull machine) to bruteforce?08:14
lordievaderBesides, for what purpose do you intend hacking wpa?08:14
applelappalai am from nepal and dictionary attack wont be able to find password because they use their names and nepali words.. which is very hard so i always try with wps enabled wpa and cracked 3-4 password of neighbours..08:16
valorieok, I will no longer help you at all08:16
valoriethis is not friendly in any way08:16
lordievaderapplelappala: Yeah, without their consent that is illegal.08:17
applelappala:(08:17
valoriethis is against our code of conduct08:17
lordievader^ that.08:17
applelappalai know its illegal08:17
valorie!coc08:17
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv08:17
applelappalaokay08:18
valorieif you continue to talk about this, I'll remove you from the channel08:18
applelappalaok sorry08:18
valorie!info kiosktool08:21
ubottuPackage kiosktool does not exist in saucy08:22
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alketis current daily the release candidate ?09:03
valoriealket:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule09:05
lordievaderalket: Rather beta2.09:05
valoriechanges are still coming in09:05
alketthanks valorie09:07
alketdo you happend to know the release time of rc ?09:07
valoriethe people who know these things wrote that schedule09:08
valoriealso, timing of anything but the final can slide by hours if necessary09:08
alketvalorie: thanks09:09
valoriewe can't wait either!09:09
OerHeksNo RC afaik > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule09:11
alketOerHeks: it says that in April 10th will be a RC09:12
alketis anyone testing current release, is it stable enough ?09:13
lordievaderalket: To me it is, yet still a development release is not recommended.09:14
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donixhello, just got done with a :sudo apt-get upgrade10:02
donixand i have some blue and grey message box in my kterminal10:03
donixtried to press enter but it's not going away10:03
donixwhat do i need to do?10:03
donix"TrueType core fonts for the Web EULA"10:04
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OerHeksdonix, hit TAB ? then 'space'10:25
donixgot it, thank you!10:26
donixalso thank you @valorie for your help earlier10:27
OerHekshave fun !10:29
mgh111e10:30
mgh111hello10:30
AceKingWhat would cause Dolphin browswer to open when Kubuntu starts12:16
OerHeksAceKing, maybe it opens as it remembers your last session?12:19
AceKingOerHeks: I had it closed when I logged out. It actually opens 2 of them12:20
BluesKaj'Morning folks13:31
AceKingBluesKaj: Good morning13:32
BluesKaj'morning AceKing13:33
jj_hi, what time are usually released the new versions? i'm waiting for the rc to install it on a brand new laptop :)15:24
BluesKajjj_, kubuntu 14.04 official release is Apr 1715:36
jj_BluesKaj: i mean the RC (supposed to be released today)15:36
jj_i'll probably install the rc and then upgrade to the final next week...it shouldn't change much since everything is frozen15:37
BluesKajjj_, check the dailies15:37
jj_does it change anything from the daily to the RC?15:38
BluesKajthe dev OS 14.04 is already in beta 215:38
BluesKajhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/15:39
BluesKajjj_, just run update/upgrade and dist-upgrade periodically if you already run 14.0415:42
jj_yeah, that's the plan :)15:42
jj_thanks15:43
BluesKajand the #ubuntu+1 is the chat for 14.04 flavour support15:44
lordievaderGood afternoon.15:52
Bundestrojanerhello. I have a strange Problem with Sound on Kubuntu: I try to use Teamspeak 3 while playing a game.16:33
BundestrojanerIf i set Teamspeak to Pulseaudio, sound output doesn't work. If i set it to alsa, itworks - but if another program (wine, vlc,...) also plays audio, i get "could not open playback device"16:33
Bundestrojanerbut i remember my pc under Gentoo (2005-2008) playing multiple audio streams on alsa...16:34
BluesKajBundestrojaner, install pulseaudio16:38
BundestrojanerBluesKaj: isn't pulseaudio the standard audio output on Kubuntu?16:39
Bundestrojaneri installed the latest kubuntu in december, so i guess it was already pre-installed?16:40
BluesKajBluesKaj, depends what output, analog or digital, but usually alsa output should work. Pulseaudio is the sound server to alsa16:41
Bundestrojaneri want to use my realtek analog onboard device16:41
Bundestrojanerit's a intel hda 7.1 (the soundchip on nearly every mainboard)16:42
BluesKajone can run without pulseaudio, but sometimes if the chip id intel the driver doesn't load after an upgrade and one has to run , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel to load it, then a reboot is required to make the setting stick16:43
BundestrojanerBluesKaj: i just checked it in muon: pulseaudio-soundserver, utils,... is installed16:43
BluesKajid=is16:43
BundestrojanerBluesKaj: i think if snd_hda_intel is not loaded, the sound output wouldn't work at all?16:44
BluesKajsorry Bundestrojaner , my connection dropped out for a min or so so i missed your first post16:45
BluesKajassumed you had no sound at all16:45
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Bundestrojanerok17:07
BundestrojanerBluesKaj: my first post:"If i set Teamspeak to Pulseaudio, sound output doesn't work. If i set it to alsa, itworks - but if another program (wine, vlc,...) also plays audio, i get "could not open playback device"17:07
BluesKajBundestrojaner, what setting do have in phonon devices preference17:10
BluesKajin system settings> multimedia17:11
Bundestrojaneri set the intel everywhere as default device17:11
Bundestrojanerbut i can also choose the interface in teamspeak17:11
BluesKajBundestrojaner, assume you run teamspeak in wine17:16
Bundestrojanerblueskaj: no, native17:17
Bundestrojanerthere are binary qt-libs in the teamspeak-folder, so i guess it uses phonon anyway (also on windoze)17:17
BundestrojanerBluesKaj: i set it now to standard -> it works17:23
BundestrojanerBluesKaj: thx for help!17:24
BluesKajBundestrojaner, uhm ok yw :)17:29
fabio123the la17:29
fabio123sorry17:29
fabio123the last time i updated i couldnt start kde because of qdbus17:29
lordievaderfabio123: Trusty?17:30
fabio123yep17:30
fabio123its a couple of quotes i remember17:30
fabio123in the startkde file17:30
lordievaderfabio123: Correct, but the patch is also in the repo. Simply updating should do the trick.17:30
fabio123i have also a question about the plasma menubar17:31
fabio123what happened to the appmenu gtk required for the gtk apps_17:32
CenbeAnybody else experiencing something like this?  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33327717:38
ubottuKDE bug 333277 in general "kded4 segfaults when session started from command" [Normal,Unconfirmed]17:38
CenbeMan, that bot is smart!17:38
BluesKajfabio123, I assume you're running kubuntu , so the gtk apps will be listed with all the other apps in the kicker/kmenu17:40
fabio123BluesKaj: i'm talking about the global menu, which works for qt/kde apps17:41
fabio123there is a appmenu-qt but i cant see the appmenu-gtk package required17:42
fabio123it's plasma-menubar i'm talking about17:42
fabio123http://imagebin.org/30481917:43
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ronnocRiddell: I see you got my message about the Muktware post :)18:47
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lonelyduckwhen will release candidate available to download19:38
TheFakeazneD525availible19:42
TheFakeazneD525er, trusty rite?19:42
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lordievaderlonelyduck: Should be today, but I haven't yet seen it. But the daily should be the same.19:44
TheFakeazneD525wait, Trusty gets released today???19:45
TheFakeazneD525:O19:45
rwwTheFakeazneD525: release candidate != release19:46
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: No, the Release Candidate.19:46
lordievaderRelease is targeted the 17th.19:46
TheFakeazneD525RC is availible for a long time... iirc19:46
TheFakeazneD525wait, will it have Wayland?19:47
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lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: No, and no. Release Candidate hasn't show up on iso.qa.ubuntu.com19:47
alketso the Current Daily == RC ?19:47
TheFakeazneD525wat19:47
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: You are either talking about beta1 or beta2.19:47
TheFakeazneD525I used cdimage.ubuntu.com19:48
lordievaderalket: Yes. Should be anyhow.19:48
m2k1981I've Dell Inspiron 1525 with Kubuntu 12.04 which slows down after a hour or so can anybody help19:48
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: cdimage.u.c is targeted towards downloading, iso.qa.u.c is more for qa testing.19:48
alketlordievader: so it wont popup here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/19:48
TheFakeazneD525oic19:49
TheFakeazneD525also holy crap Kylin has a fuckton of bugs19:49
lordievaderalket: I don't really know why it hasn't show up as a RC. Have been wondering that myself.19:49
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: Watch your language, please.19:49
TheFakeazneD525sorry19:49
lordievaderm2k1981: Memory leak? Have you done some investigating?19:49
m2k1981Not yet19:50
lordievaderm2k1981: Fireup top or htop or something.19:50
alketstrange problem.19:50
lordievaderSlowdowns can be due to a lot of factors.19:50
TheFakeazneD525oh yeah, does Kubu ship with Wayland? or still X.org?19:51
alketTheFakeazneD525: no wayland19:52
TheFakeazneD525D:19:52
TheFakeazneD525say, is *ubu shipping with Py3?19:53
alketTheFakeazneD525: i don't know, but you could always apt-get it19:54
lordievader!info python3 trusty19:54
ubottupython3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 8 kB, installed size 100 kB19:54
TheFakeazneD525I heard that py3 is the new default or something, from #python19:54
TheFakeazneD525in trusty at least19:55
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: No sure if python3 is installed by default but 3.4 is available.19:55
TheFakeazneD525:O19:55
m2k1981lordievade:  so what should i look for in htop19:56
lordievaderm2k1981: Processes claiming a lot of cpu power, free ram, load.19:56
m2k1981Actully I'm new to Kubuntu19:57
lordievaderm2k1981: Welcome to the family :)19:58
TheFakeazneD525m2k1981: you'll like it here19:58
TheFakeazneD525or we'll fix it in the next KDE release :P19:59
m2k1981Right now it is working smooth. No big player found in htop20:06
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mr-richoofa20:29
alketso , no rc  today21:07
SolakHello.21:13
* Solak has an odd problem: I'm trying to put an image on a sd-card, but whatever I try, the result is 'permission denied'.21:14
alketi had that problem a week ago in 14.0421:15
alketbut i forgot how i fixed it21:15
Solakhttps://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst (the exact line: xzcat /path/to/raspbian-ua-netinst-latest.img.xz > /dev/sda1)21:15
Solakalket: I have 12.04LTS.21:16
Solak(ok, the path is just the image file, /dev/sda1 is not what's in the example but the exact device here).21:17
alketSolak: try alt f2 then gksu nautilus21:17
alketthen navigate to /dev/sdb121:17
alketthen if image copies there, just chmod the folder21:17
Solakalket: that sounds like gnome...21:18
alketoh this is kubuntu21:18
alketsorry21:18
Solakyes, n.p.21:18
alketi was trying 14.04 with unity21:18
alketin this case kdesu dolphin21:20
Solakalket: ok, that also seems to work with xterm so I'll try it tomorrow... thanks for the hint!21:26
KsChoiceI installed 14.04 beta2 a few days ago, and I keep having problems with my wifi dropping out after a while. It seems to happen either after suspend, then continuing again, and an hour later its gone, or just after about 8 hours of work.21:46
KsChoiceBasically I see the wifi antenna icon with a question mark, I do no longer see my WiFi AP21:47
KsChoiceI guess that maybe its a driver problem, but I am not sure what driver is being used. How can I see that, using lsmod?21:48
alketKsChoice: was the problem from begining ?21:49
KsChoicelaptop boots, all is fine, wifi works w/o problem. Then after some 8 hours or so (or, optionally it seems that if I suspend it, then resume, and then after about some 30 mins) it appears that my wifi just stops working..21:49
KsChoiceit is disconnected, I no longer see my wifi ap (though I do see others still)21:50
KsChoiceand all internet traffic is gone21:50
alketsorry i meant was this problem from begining of installation21:50
alketbecause i had a problem where the wifi wont work but i just booted with older kernel version and it was fine again21:51
KsChoicealket: Not entirely sure, but I don't think so.. The problem for me is that wifi drops out after a longer time21:52
KsChoiceAlso, I get constant "there are new updates" notifications.. And not just one, I sometimes get like 20 in a minute21:55
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