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xzavierdevdoes anyone update ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 successful?14:56
bdmurrayxzavierdev: yes, but this is the incorrect channel to discuss it. please try #ubuntu-bugs.14:58
xzavierdevok,thanks14:58
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slangasek#startmeeting15:04
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Apr 10 15:04:09 2014 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:04
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:04
xnoxo/15:04
mvohi, sorry for being late15:04
slangasek'sok, we're only just getting started15:04
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:04
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox caribou infinity mvo)15:04
slangasekxnox stgraber bdmurray doko jodh cjwatson mvo slangasek barry caribou infinity15:04
xnoxhm?!15:05
xnoxok.15:05
dokoI assume barry is walking around in the conference center15:05
xnox* upstart:15:05
xnox  - worked on cgroups - good progress, still a few state transitions15:05
xnox    left, moving post-release15:05
xnox  - still to upload staged minor fixes in upstart packaging branch15:05
xnox    with reload fix15:05
xnox* ubiquity/installer:15:05
xnox  - dropped u1 + fixed AP tests fall-out15:05
xnox  - resolved missing/wrong backgrounds on xubuntu/studio15:05
xnox  - resolved missing overlay scrollbars in ubiquity live session (to upload)15:05
xnox  - resolved "ubiquity is too wide" a little more (to upload)15:05
xnox  - with cking/apw found missing block device kernel modules in udebs (uploaded)15:05
xnox* revert ubuntu-sso-client to unbreak software-center15:05
xnox* reviewed pre-release website, sent of a list of bugs/typos.15:05
xnox* migrating remaining clicks to python3, will send status email later15:05
xnox  today to ubuntu-phone m.l.15:05
xnoxtodo:15:05
xnox  * bug #130381515:05
xnox  * bug #130172015:05
ubottubug 1303815 in plymouth (Ubuntu Trusty) "cloud image boot produces unnecessary output" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130381515:05
ubottubug 1301720 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "[Text Entry] Missing English input in Simplified and Traditional Chinese default enviroment" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130172015:05
xnoxnext week working in the office15:05
slangasekdoko: is he doing laps?15:05
xnox..15:05
dokoenoclue15:06
stgraber - cgmanager15:06
stgraber   - Updated our website to be vaguely more useful:15:06
stgraber     https://cgmanager.linuxcontainers.org15:06
stgraber   - Debugging a few bugs that showed up after we turned cgmanager support in15:06
stgraber     logind.15:06
stgraber   - Fixed a bunch of upstart jobs issues discovered by Touch during stress15:06
stgraber     test, fixed that and got my Nexus4 to boot succesfuly around 400 times in15:06
stgraber     a row.15:06
stgraber   - Still debugging one of those now (logind using 100% of CPU...)15:06
stgraber - LXC15:06
stgraber   - Several updates to our apparmor profiles to support the new apparmor15:06
stgraber     version and workaround new parser bugs.15:06
stgraber   - Fixes to some of our tests.15:07
stgraber   - Integrated our PPA and Coverity uploads into the Jenkins jobs, now our15:07
stgraber     whole build and test infrastructure has been moved to15:07
stgraber     https://jenkins.linuxcontainers.org15:07
stgraber   - Usual code review15:07
stgraber   - Sent the formal micro-conference proposal for Plumbers 201415:07
stgraber   - Followed up on the LXC sprint at LinuxCon NA 201415:07
stgraber   - Tagged, released and uploaded LXC 1.0.315:07
stgraber - Network15:07
stgraber   - Upgrade fixes for ifupdown and isc-dhcp.15:07
stgraber - Other15:07
stgraber   - Tracked down and fixed a couple of sssd issues.15:07
stgraber   - Queue reviews and last minute FFes.15:07
stgraber 15:07
stgraberWill be sligthly harder to reach this afternoon as I'll be working from the15:07
stgraberMontreal office to catch up with doko and barry.15:07
stgraber(DONE)15:07
slangasekxnox: oh yay, so all the clicks are python3-ready now?15:07
bdmurrayerrors: research into cassandra database space saving mechanisms15:08
bdmurrayerrors: worked on not writing ProcMaps for python tracebacks and removing it for crashes with a dupe sig15:08
bdmurrayerrors: submitted RT #69068 regarding cassandra database stats missing15:08
bdmurrayfoundations bug triage15:08
bdmurrayrecreated and research into fixing whoopsie bug 126109615:08
bdmurraytested laney's fix for bug 126109615:08
bdmurraytested and discovered why bug 1300465 is invalid15:08
ubottubug 1261096 in activity-log-manager (Ubuntu) "whoopsie-preferences respawns whoopsie in an infinite loop" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126109615:08
ubottubug 1300465 in python-apt (Ubuntu) "description dialog is empty" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130046515:08
bdmurrayresearch into bug 1277706 and cleanup of its duplicates15:08
bdmurrayinvestigation into update-manager bug 116455815:08
bdmurrayworked on a fix for bug 130238015:08
bdmurrayubuntu-release-upgrader code reviews for mvo15:08
ubottubug 1277706 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "ubiquity in precise-updates, doesn't have tight enough dependency on python-apt leading to crashers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127770615:08
ubottubug 1164558 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Not able to use updater: "You are not allowed to perform this action"" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116455815:08
ubottubug 1302380 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "package installation failure during partial upgrade reports crash against ubuntu-release-upgrader" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130238015:08
bdmurrayproposed a merge for unattended-upgrades that adds an apport package hook15:08
bdmurraySRU verification of bug 128616115:08
ubottubug 1286161 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Trusty) "13.10 -> 14.04 upgrade failed: initramfs failed to ugprade, udev is not configured yet" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128616115:08
bdmurraysru review of a couple of packages for OEM priority bug reports15:08
bdmurrayposted Ubuntu DMB meeting results15:08
bdmurray✔ done15:08
bdmurrayholiday(s): 215:08
doko- ruby1.8 removal15:09
doko- GCC updates, bringen armhf and arm64 regression fixes, and updated towards the 4.8.2 and 4.9.0 releases15:09
doko- openjdk-7 arm64 fixes15:09
doko- some random ftbfs fixes15:09
doko- ppc64el fixes15:09
doko- job interviews15:09
doko- PyCon15:09
doko(done)15:09
jodh* foundations-1305-upstart-work-items:15:09
jodh  - cgroup support:15:09
jodh    - Virtual upstart cgroups sprint with xnox on Friday. Productive but15:09
jodh      highlighted a limitation of the current branch.15:09
jodh    - Feature won't now land in trusty (postponed).15:09
jodh* upstart:15:09
jodh  - Reviewed and merged lp:~xnox/upstart/lp1303891.15:09
jodh  - Reviewed and merged lp:~xnox/upstart/no-python.in.15:09
jodh  - Updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/TechnicalOverviewUpstart.15:09
jodh  - Investigating Upstart SEGV issue. Maybe be related to fix for bug15:09
jodh    1222705.15:09
jodh  - Updated upstart-events(7).15:09
jodh* other:15:09
jodh  - Short week as out Monday and Tuesday.15:09
jodh15:09
cjwatsonUpdated germinate and tasksel for trusty.15:09
cjwatsonFinished porting GHC to arm64.15:09
cjwatsonuser-setup tweaks (bug 1304008, bug 1069684).15:09
cjwatsonFixed putty assertion failure (bug 1289176).15:09
cjwatsonEducated installer on copying xattrs (bug 1302192).15:09
cjwatsonApplied grub-installer patch to fall back to grub-pc if ESP is missing (bug 1302418).15:09
ubottubug 1304008 in user-setup (Ubuntu) "user not added to libvirtd group with iso trusty 'virtual machine host' installation method" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130400815:09
cjwatsonCleaned out a good deal of cruft from ubiquity.15:09
ubottubug 1069684 in user-setup (Ubuntu) "installer let us choose a system user as our primary user account, without warning" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106968415:09
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 1289176 could not be found15:09
cjwatsonStarted working through various removals, component-mismatches cleanup, etc. in an effort to get this all clear by release.15:09
ubottubug 1302192 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "capabilities not preserved on installation" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130219215:09
ubottubug 1302418 in grub-installer (Ubuntu Trusty) "grub-installer should fall back to grub-pc instead of grub-efi when there is no EFI system partition" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130241815:10
cjwatsonUpdated translations in a few places.15:10
cjwatsonLots of queue reviews.15:10
cjwatsonStill trying to figure out what's up with GRUB and LVM snapshots.15:10
cjwatson..15:10
slangasekmvo: you're up\15:10
mvorelease bugfixing15:10
mvoapt: cherry pick fixes,  Bug#743413, add src package cachedb15:10
mvodebug/fix JDK removal with latest apt #1302736, add test for apt-ftparchive --db sources, debug/fix missing ^rc pkgs in apt list (mvo/bugfix/apt-list-rc-pkgs),15:10
mvogdebi: review/merge/upload https://code.launchpad.net/~barry/gdebi/lp1301422/+merge/214257, debug/fix #1304657 and add regression test mvo/bugfix/lp1304657-perms, apt: debug  #1304403 (libkrb-srv-mit8 upgrade issue), debug/fix spurious test failure caused by a race condition in the tests, upload 1.0.1ubuntu115:10
mvoupdate-manager: look at #130177615:10
mvounattended-upgrades: debug cache broken error, debug/fix #74359415:10
mvorelease-upgrader: debug #1294124, fix demotion display, upload new version, pgrade test #1298281,  fix release upgrade prompting from "normal" to "lts",  lp:~mvo/ubuntu-release-upgrader/text-install-progress,  debug/fix #1304365 (wayland upgrade bug), improve apt.log, fix crash in DistUpgradeViewText, remove gnome-session special handling, debug/fix #130440315:11
mvoupdate-manager: upload fix for #116455815:11
mvolibc6: debug regression in desktop upgrade mode (#1298281)15:11
mvo(done)15:11
mvothe report is not well organized sorry for that15:11
mvonext15:11
* mvo will do better next time15:11
mvonext is slangasek I think :)15:11
slangasekmvo: clearly you are spending too much time fixing bugs and not enough time writing reports about it15:11
slangasek * end-of-cycle package uploads for ppc64el enablement15:12
slangasek * generate a netboot directory for ppc64el from d-i, so it's sane to netboot without having to set everything up yourself15:12
slangasek * interviewing for Java role15:12
slangasek(done)15:12
slangasek * Tech Board discussions about Ubuntu Kylin archive15:12
slangasek * various freeze reviews15:12
slangasekno barry15:12
slangasekcaribou:15:12
caribou* openstack debugging15:13
caribou* sosreport development for trusty15:13
cariboudone15:13
infinity* continued to enjoy being a tourist in meetings15:14
infinity(done)15:14
slangasek:)15:15
slangasekany questions above?15:16
slangasek[TOPIC] Trusty release freeze15:17
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Trusty release freeze
slangasekfinal freeze is in, um, some small number of hours15:17
slangasekis there anything pending that we should talk about before we get there?15:18
infinity615:18
infinityhours, not uploads.15:18
slangasek(that maybe you're desperately working on right now to get in before the deadline, and it might be helpful to give your friends in the release team a heads-up that it's on its way)15:18
infinityI'm going to lob a glibc at the archive soon.  Was just waiting on final word from Adhemerval that he has no last-minute ppc fixes for me.15:19
cjwatsonI have the GRUB LVM snapshot fix, think I have something plausible now15:19
stgraberwe'll probably have a cgmanager fix15:19
xnoxubiquity... upstart...15:19
mvoit might be nice to get one software-center upload to get 2 common errors.ubuntu.com issues off the table but I'm not sure who is doing this these days15:19
cjwatson(Now that I've worked out that it isn't actually a problem in the core C code at all, but a grub-mkconfig scripting bug)15:19
slangasekok, so nothing major anywhere then ;)15:19
slangasekjust grub ubiquity upstart cgmanager and glibc15:19
infinityNah, business as usual.15:19
stgraberthere's a somewhat rare condition where logind will get stuck and use 100% of your CPU, hallyn is looking into that now and managed to reproduce it a couple minutes ago15:19
infinityNo one needs those packages.15:19
cjwatsonslangasek: what did you expect from this team, fluffy desktop stuff? :)15:20
xnoxmvo: software-center -> we've been just uploading it with $ debsign & dput so far.15:20
slangasekstgraber: sounds like a clear bugfix that would qualify during final freeze, provided that we figure it out15:20
mvoxnox: thanks15:21
dokohave two fixes pending: fixing the python3.4 ftbfs on aarch64,  and landing the python3.4 ensurepip fix (which I'll look at with barry today)15:21
xnoxmvo: you can poke Rodney Dawes about it (e.g. reviews / uploads) or just upload.15:21
slangasekcjwatson: no, the fluffy is for the cloud server15:21
dokopreferring to fix the ftbfs on aarch64 with the just uploaded binutils15:21
stgraberslangasek: yeah, all we know for know is that in some cases we get stuck in a loop of EAGAIN inside the nih auto-generated code, hopefully it's just caused by an actual bug in cgmanager's dbus service and not by a bug in the code generator :)15:22
dokodid the release team discuss icedtea-web?15:22
dokoand I assume it's a bit late for the valgrind update ...15:23
cjwatsonI think everyone's scared off by the diff, but nobody has rejected it yet15:23
dokovalgrind is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/valgrind/+bug/130007015:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1300070 in valgrind (Ubuntu Trusty) "valgrind 3.10/trunk update to support AArch64" [Undecided,New]15:24
slangasekdoko: I didn't see any discussion, I think it's been suffering from queue starvation for a lot of other stuff coming through hot.  Did you get the valgrind testing from the phone folks?15:24
slangasek(if you're waiting for the release team to drive that, it probably won't get done in time)15:25
dokohave to check with tvoss ...15:25
slangasekok15:25
dokohmm, maybe a bad time to discuss with him ...15:25
slangasekdoko: nah, he's /back/ to work now15:26
slangasekAIUI15:26
infinityThat was a quick parental leave.15:26
slangasekwell, ICBW15:26
slangasekand other acronyms15:26
slangasekso yeah, maybe you do want someone other than tvoss.  kgunn?15:27
infinityInterContinental Ballistic Weasels?15:27
slangasekinfinity: wessels15:27
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:29
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
slangasekanything else, besides uploading half the base system 5h before freeze?15:29
infinityWe could do the other half too.15:30
stgraber5h is way too optimistic, I expect most of those to be uploaded within an hour of the freeze ;)15:30
* slangasek gets an ulcer15:31
infinitySlightly more seriously, if people have good ideas (markety or buggy) for the release notes, it's a wiki, go add crap.  I can always delete if we have too much, but no one likes panicing to write it all on Thursday morning.15:31
dokono more planned openjdk and gcc uploads today15:31
infinitydoko: I like the "today" qualifier on that.15:31
slangasekdoko: oh, just the unplanned ones15:31
xnoxinfinity: did you just stage wiki page dead-lock?! =)15:31
infinityxnox: No, because no one will do it.15:32
* slangasek turns and points at everyone else in the channel15:32
slangasekdo we have a list of release-notey bugs to work from, this cycle?15:33
infinityDon't know if people have been adding tasks.15:33
* xnox was doing random searches of high/critical and things targeted at trusty milestones. it's not much15:33
dokodamn, you did catch both "unplanned" and "today" ...15:33
infinityThere's always the ISO tracker bugs, but I'd like to think we'll fix the worst ones and pretend the rest don't exist because we're awesome.15:33
stgraberI don't think we've been particularly good at targeting + tagging bugs this cycle15:33
xnoxthe "rls-management" report is not very useful either.15:34
slangasekxnox: there's an ubuntu-release-notes project15:34
slangasekif things should be release noted, and you don't have time to write the blurb, please target a task there15:34
slangasekand if you do have time to write the blurb, look there for things that might need writing :)15:34
xnoxthey look old...15:35
slangasekxnox: old ones ought to be wontfixed15:35
bdmurrayxnox: which rls-management report?15:35
slangasekwe're not realistically going to update the saucy release notes now15:36
xnoxbdmurray: rls-tracking/notracking/wontfixing15:36
xnoxbdmurray: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-t-tracking-bug-tasks.html15:36
infinityTo be fair, we've tended in the past to be a bit too liberal in our release noteyness.  If it doesn't cause people installation/upgrade headaches or other such nastiness, it's just a bug, not a bug worth telling every single person about.15:36
slangasekinfinity: I disagree; major bugs that are going to be FAQs if we don't document them are worth including15:37
slangaseknot just bugs specifically related to installation and upgrade15:37
infinityslangasek: That falls under "other nastiness", I suspect.  It's a judgement call.15:37
slangasek(and it's not really telling "everyone", just the .3% of users who read the release notes ;)15:38
infinityslangasek: But there were people in the past that felt that anything with a release-notes task or a tracker link was release note worthy just cause. ;)15:38
slangasekright, Judgement must be Exercised15:38
infinityOh joy.  A glibc regression on (only) power8 that I now need to sort out if I just introduced or if it's always been there but I've never run the testsuit on P8 before.15:39
slangasekinfinity: enjoy15:39
infinity(Betting the latter)15:39
xnoxslangasek: i wonder if both firefox and thunderbird need uploading. Firefox - because of nbs dependency & Thunderbird to drop U1 from sendit plugin.15:39
xnoxunless both things are in the works.15:40
infinityxnox: I'm on firefox already.15:40
slangasekxnox: AIUI dropping the thunderbird plugin was not strictly required15:40
slangasekinfinity: why is that not for the desktop team to take care of?15:40
infinityxnox: I've had the fix committed for weeks, but now that we're past the point of no return for Chris uploading new versions (ie: I won't let him), I'll take care of it. :P15:40
infinityslangasek: Well, like I said, I committed the fix to bzr weeks ago.15:40
infinityslangasek: Under the assumption that it would magically land in Chris's next upload.  And there wasn't one. :)15:41
xnoxinfinity: which branches are used for thunderbird/firefox? (i lost track of the thunderbird patch)15:41
xnoxslangasek: ack.15:41
slangasekok15:42
slangasekso, enough talk, back to action :)15:42
slangasek#endmeeting15:42
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Apr 10 15:42:25 2014 UTC.15:42
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-04-10-15.04.moin.txt15:42
slangasekthanks, all!15:42
infinityxnox: debian/control tends to be (close to) accurate for ffox.  No idea about tbird.15:42
stgraberthanks!15:42
caribouthanks15:42
jodhthanks!15:42
infinity*wave*15:42
stgraberdoko: leaving now, should be at the office in the next 15min, see you there!15:42
mvothanks15:43
dokoxnox, if you track the firefox upload, please see that http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html gets addressed ...15:44
xnoxdoko: as per above, infinity already has firefox change ready for exactly that.15:45
dokoahh, ok15:45
xnoxdoko: otherwise i couldn't care less about firefox =) i don't use it.15:45
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