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xzavierdev | does anyone update ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 successful? | 14:56 |
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bdmurray | xzavierdev: yes, but this is the incorrect channel to discuss it. please try #ubuntu-bugs. | 14:58 |
xzavierdev | ok,thanks | 14:58 |
* slangasek waves | 15:03 | |
jodh | o/ | 15:03 |
caribou | o/ | 15:03 |
* stgraber waves | 15:04 | |
slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:04 |
meetingology | Meeting started Thu Apr 10 15:04:09 2014 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:04 |
meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:04 |
xnox | o/ | 15:04 |
mvo | hi, sorry for being late | 15:04 |
slangasek | 'sok, we're only just getting started | 15:04 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:04 |
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox caribou infinity mvo) | 15:04 |
slangasek | xnox stgraber bdmurray doko jodh cjwatson mvo slangasek barry caribou infinity | 15:04 |
xnox | hm?! | 15:05 |
xnox | ok. | 15:05 |
doko | I assume barry is walking around in the conference center | 15:05 |
xnox | * upstart: | 15:05 |
xnox | - worked on cgroups - good progress, still a few state transitions | 15:05 |
xnox | left, moving post-release | 15:05 |
xnox | - still to upload staged minor fixes in upstart packaging branch | 15:05 |
xnox | with reload fix | 15:05 |
xnox | * ubiquity/installer: | 15:05 |
xnox | - dropped u1 + fixed AP tests fall-out | 15:05 |
xnox | - resolved missing/wrong backgrounds on xubuntu/studio | 15:05 |
xnox | - resolved missing overlay scrollbars in ubiquity live session (to upload) | 15:05 |
xnox | - resolved "ubiquity is too wide" a little more (to upload) | 15:05 |
xnox | - with cking/apw found missing block device kernel modules in udebs (uploaded) | 15:05 |
xnox | * revert ubuntu-sso-client to unbreak software-center | 15:05 |
xnox | * reviewed pre-release website, sent of a list of bugs/typos. | 15:05 |
xnox | * migrating remaining clicks to python3, will send status email later | 15:05 |
xnox | today to ubuntu-phone m.l. | 15:05 |
xnox | todo: | 15:05 |
xnox | * bug #1303815 | 15:05 |
xnox | * bug #1301720 | 15:05 |
ubottu | bug 1303815 in plymouth (Ubuntu Trusty) "cloud image boot produces unnecessary output" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1303815 | 15:05 |
ubottu | bug 1301720 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "[Text Entry] Missing English input in Simplified and Traditional Chinese default enviroment" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301720 | 15:05 |
xnox | next week working in the office | 15:05 |
slangasek | doko: is he doing laps? | 15:05 |
xnox | .. | 15:05 |
doko | enoclue | 15:06 |
stgraber | - cgmanager | 15:06 |
stgraber | - Updated our website to be vaguely more useful: | 15:06 |
stgraber | https://cgmanager.linuxcontainers.org | 15:06 |
stgraber | - Debugging a few bugs that showed up after we turned cgmanager support in | 15:06 |
stgraber | logind. | 15:06 |
stgraber | - Fixed a bunch of upstart jobs issues discovered by Touch during stress | 15:06 |
stgraber | test, fixed that and got my Nexus4 to boot succesfuly around 400 times in | 15:06 |
stgraber | a row. | 15:06 |
stgraber | - Still debugging one of those now (logind using 100% of CPU...) | 15:06 |
stgraber | - LXC | 15:06 |
stgraber | - Several updates to our apparmor profiles to support the new apparmor | 15:06 |
stgraber | version and workaround new parser bugs. | 15:06 |
stgraber | - Fixes to some of our tests. | 15:07 |
stgraber | - Integrated our PPA and Coverity uploads into the Jenkins jobs, now our | 15:07 |
stgraber | whole build and test infrastructure has been moved to | 15:07 |
stgraber | https://jenkins.linuxcontainers.org | 15:07 |
stgraber | - Usual code review | 15:07 |
stgraber | - Sent the formal micro-conference proposal for Plumbers 2014 | 15:07 |
stgraber | - Followed up on the LXC sprint at LinuxCon NA 2014 | 15:07 |
stgraber | - Tagged, released and uploaded LXC 1.0.3 | 15:07 |
stgraber | - Network | 15:07 |
stgraber | - Upgrade fixes for ifupdown and isc-dhcp. | 15:07 |
stgraber | - Other | 15:07 |
stgraber | - Tracked down and fixed a couple of sssd issues. | 15:07 |
stgraber | - Queue reviews and last minute FFes. | 15:07 |
stgraber | 15:07 | |
stgraber | Will be sligthly harder to reach this afternoon as I'll be working from the | 15:07 |
stgraber | Montreal office to catch up with doko and barry. | 15:07 |
stgraber | (DONE) | 15:07 |
slangasek | xnox: oh yay, so all the clicks are python3-ready now? | 15:07 |
bdmurray | errors: research into cassandra database space saving mechanisms | 15:08 |
bdmurray | errors: worked on not writing ProcMaps for python tracebacks and removing it for crashes with a dupe sig | 15:08 |
bdmurray | errors: submitted RT #69068 regarding cassandra database stats missing | 15:08 |
bdmurray | foundations bug triage | 15:08 |
bdmurray | recreated and research into fixing whoopsie bug 1261096 | 15:08 |
bdmurray | tested laney's fix for bug 1261096 | 15:08 |
bdmurray | tested and discovered why bug 1300465 is invalid | 15:08 |
ubottu | bug 1261096 in activity-log-manager (Ubuntu) "whoopsie-preferences respawns whoopsie in an infinite loop" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1261096 | 15:08 |
ubottu | bug 1300465 in python-apt (Ubuntu) "description dialog is empty" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300465 | 15:08 |
bdmurray | research into bug 1277706 and cleanup of its duplicates | 15:08 |
bdmurray | investigation into update-manager bug 1164558 | 15:08 |
bdmurray | worked on a fix for bug 1302380 | 15:08 |
bdmurray | ubuntu-release-upgrader code reviews for mvo | 15:08 |
ubottu | bug 1277706 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "ubiquity in precise-updates, doesn't have tight enough dependency on python-apt leading to crashers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277706 | 15:08 |
ubottu | bug 1164558 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Not able to use updater: "You are not allowed to perform this action"" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164558 | 15:08 |
ubottu | bug 1302380 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "package installation failure during partial upgrade reports crash against ubuntu-release-upgrader" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302380 | 15:08 |
bdmurray | proposed a merge for unattended-upgrades that adds an apport package hook | 15:08 |
bdmurray | SRU verification of bug 1286161 | 15:08 |
ubottu | bug 1286161 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Trusty) "13.10 -> 14.04 upgrade failed: initramfs failed to ugprade, udev is not configured yet" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1286161 | 15:08 |
bdmurray | sru review of a couple of packages for OEM priority bug reports | 15:08 |
bdmurray | posted Ubuntu DMB meeting results | 15:08 |
bdmurray | ✔ done | 15:08 |
bdmurray | holiday(s): 2 | 15:08 |
doko | - ruby1.8 removal | 15:09 |
doko | - GCC updates, bringen armhf and arm64 regression fixes, and updated towards the 4.8.2 and 4.9.0 releases | 15:09 |
doko | - openjdk-7 arm64 fixes | 15:09 |
doko | - some random ftbfs fixes | 15:09 |
doko | - ppc64el fixes | 15:09 |
doko | - job interviews | 15:09 |
doko | - PyCon | 15:09 |
doko | (done) | 15:09 |
jodh | * foundations-1305-upstart-work-items: | 15:09 |
jodh | - cgroup support: | 15:09 |
jodh | - Virtual upstart cgroups sprint with xnox on Friday. Productive but | 15:09 |
jodh | highlighted a limitation of the current branch. | 15:09 |
jodh | - Feature won't now land in trusty (postponed). | 15:09 |
jodh | * upstart: | 15:09 |
jodh | - Reviewed and merged lp:~xnox/upstart/lp1303891. | 15:09 |
jodh | - Reviewed and merged lp:~xnox/upstart/no-python.in. | 15:09 |
jodh | - Updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/TechnicalOverviewUpstart. | 15:09 |
jodh | - Investigating Upstart SEGV issue. Maybe be related to fix for bug | 15:09 |
jodh | 1222705. | 15:09 |
jodh | - Updated upstart-events(7). | 15:09 |
jodh | * other: | 15:09 |
jodh | - Short week as out Monday and Tuesday. | 15:09 |
jodh | ꓩ | 15:09 |
cjwatson | Updated germinate and tasksel for trusty. | 15:09 |
cjwatson | Finished porting GHC to arm64. | 15:09 |
cjwatson | user-setup tweaks (bug 1304008, bug 1069684). | 15:09 |
cjwatson | Fixed putty assertion failure (bug 1289176). | 15:09 |
cjwatson | Educated installer on copying xattrs (bug 1302192). | 15:09 |
cjwatson | Applied grub-installer patch to fall back to grub-pc if ESP is missing (bug 1302418). | 15:09 |
ubottu | bug 1304008 in user-setup (Ubuntu) "user not added to libvirtd group with iso trusty 'virtual machine host' installation method" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1304008 | 15:09 |
cjwatson | Cleaned out a good deal of cruft from ubiquity. | 15:09 |
ubottu | bug 1069684 in user-setup (Ubuntu) "installer let us choose a system user as our primary user account, without warning" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069684 | 15:09 |
ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 1289176 could not be found | 15:09 |
cjwatson | Started working through various removals, component-mismatches cleanup, etc. in an effort to get this all clear by release. | 15:09 |
ubottu | bug 1302192 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "capabilities not preserved on installation" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302192 | 15:09 |
ubottu | bug 1302418 in grub-installer (Ubuntu Trusty) "grub-installer should fall back to grub-pc instead of grub-efi when there is no EFI system partition" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302418 | 15:10 |
cjwatson | Updated translations in a few places. | 15:10 |
cjwatson | Lots of queue reviews. | 15:10 |
cjwatson | Still trying to figure out what's up with GRUB and LVM snapshots. | 15:10 |
cjwatson | .. | 15:10 |
slangasek | mvo: you're up\ | 15:10 |
mvo | release bugfixing | 15:10 |
mvo | apt: cherry pick fixes, Bug#743413, add src package cachedb | 15:10 |
mvo | debug/fix JDK removal with latest apt #1302736, add test for apt-ftparchive --db sources, debug/fix missing ^rc pkgs in apt list (mvo/bugfix/apt-list-rc-pkgs), | 15:10 |
mvo | gdebi: review/merge/upload https://code.launchpad.net/~barry/gdebi/lp1301422/+merge/214257, debug/fix #1304657 and add regression test mvo/bugfix/lp1304657-perms, apt: debug #1304403 (libkrb-srv-mit8 upgrade issue), debug/fix spurious test failure caused by a race condition in the tests, upload 1.0.1ubuntu1 | 15:10 |
mvo | update-manager: look at #1301776 | 15:10 |
mvo | unattended-upgrades: debug cache broken error, debug/fix #743594 | 15:10 |
mvo | release-upgrader: debug #1294124, fix demotion display, upload new version, pgrade test #1298281, fix release upgrade prompting from "normal" to "lts", lp:~mvo/ubuntu-release-upgrader/text-install-progress, debug/fix #1304365 (wayland upgrade bug), improve apt.log, fix crash in DistUpgradeViewText, remove gnome-session special handling, debug/fix #1304403 | 15:11 |
mvo | update-manager: upload fix for #1164558 | 15:11 |
mvo | libc6: debug regression in desktop upgrade mode (#1298281) | 15:11 |
mvo | (done) | 15:11 |
mvo | the report is not well organized sorry for that | 15:11 |
mvo | next | 15:11 |
* mvo will do better next time | 15:11 | |
mvo | next is slangasek I think :) | 15:11 |
slangasek | mvo: clearly you are spending too much time fixing bugs and not enough time writing reports about it | 15:11 |
slangasek | * end-of-cycle package uploads for ppc64el enablement | 15:12 |
slangasek | * generate a netboot directory for ppc64el from d-i, so it's sane to netboot without having to set everything up yourself | 15:12 |
slangasek | * interviewing for Java role | 15:12 |
slangasek | (done) | 15:12 |
slangasek | * Tech Board discussions about Ubuntu Kylin archive | 15:12 |
slangasek | * various freeze reviews | 15:12 |
slangasek | no barry | 15:12 |
slangasek | caribou: | 15:12 |
caribou | * openstack debugging | 15:13 |
caribou | * sosreport development for trusty | 15:13 |
caribou | done | 15:13 |
infinity | * continued to enjoy being a tourist in meetings | 15:14 |
infinity | (done) | 15:14 |
slangasek | :) | 15:15 |
slangasek | any questions above? | 15:16 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Trusty release freeze | 15:17 |
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Trusty release freeze | ||
slangasek | final freeze is in, um, some small number of hours | 15:17 |
slangasek | is there anything pending that we should talk about before we get there? | 15:18 |
infinity | 6 | 15:18 |
infinity | hours, not uploads. | 15:18 |
slangasek | (that maybe you're desperately working on right now to get in before the deadline, and it might be helpful to give your friends in the release team a heads-up that it's on its way) | 15:18 |
infinity | I'm going to lob a glibc at the archive soon. Was just waiting on final word from Adhemerval that he has no last-minute ppc fixes for me. | 15:19 |
cjwatson | I have the GRUB LVM snapshot fix, think I have something plausible now | 15:19 |
stgraber | we'll probably have a cgmanager fix | 15:19 |
xnox | ubiquity... upstart... | 15:19 |
mvo | it might be nice to get one software-center upload to get 2 common errors.ubuntu.com issues off the table but I'm not sure who is doing this these days | 15:19 |
cjwatson | (Now that I've worked out that it isn't actually a problem in the core C code at all, but a grub-mkconfig scripting bug) | 15:19 |
slangasek | ok, so nothing major anywhere then ;) | 15:19 |
slangasek | just grub ubiquity upstart cgmanager and glibc | 15:19 |
infinity | Nah, business as usual. | 15:19 |
stgraber | there's a somewhat rare condition where logind will get stuck and use 100% of your CPU, hallyn is looking into that now and managed to reproduce it a couple minutes ago | 15:19 |
infinity | No one needs those packages. | 15:19 |
cjwatson | slangasek: what did you expect from this team, fluffy desktop stuff? :) | 15:20 |
xnox | mvo: software-center -> we've been just uploading it with $ debsign & dput so far. | 15:20 |
slangasek | stgraber: sounds like a clear bugfix that would qualify during final freeze, provided that we figure it out | 15:20 |
mvo | xnox: thanks | 15:21 |
doko | have two fixes pending: fixing the python3.4 ftbfs on aarch64, and landing the python3.4 ensurepip fix (which I'll look at with barry today) | 15:21 |
xnox | mvo: you can poke Rodney Dawes about it (e.g. reviews / uploads) or just upload. | 15:21 |
slangasek | cjwatson: no, the fluffy is for the cloud server | 15:21 |
doko | preferring to fix the ftbfs on aarch64 with the just uploaded binutils | 15:21 |
stgraber | slangasek: yeah, all we know for know is that in some cases we get stuck in a loop of EAGAIN inside the nih auto-generated code, hopefully it's just caused by an actual bug in cgmanager's dbus service and not by a bug in the code generator :) | 15:22 |
doko | did the release team discuss icedtea-web? | 15:22 |
doko | and I assume it's a bit late for the valgrind update ... | 15:23 |
cjwatson | I think everyone's scared off by the diff, but nobody has rejected it yet | 15:23 |
doko | valgrind is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/valgrind/+bug/1300070 | 15:24 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1300070 in valgrind (Ubuntu Trusty) "valgrind 3.10/trunk update to support AArch64" [Undecided,New] | 15:24 |
slangasek | doko: I didn't see any discussion, I think it's been suffering from queue starvation for a lot of other stuff coming through hot. Did you get the valgrind testing from the phone folks? | 15:24 |
slangasek | (if you're waiting for the release team to drive that, it probably won't get done in time) | 15:25 |
doko | have to check with tvoss ... | 15:25 |
slangasek | ok | 15:25 |
doko | hmm, maybe a bad time to discuss with him ... | 15:25 |
slangasek | doko: nah, he's /back/ to work now | 15:26 |
slangasek | AIUI | 15:26 |
infinity | That was a quick parental leave. | 15:26 |
slangasek | well, ICBW | 15:26 |
slangasek | and other acronyms | 15:26 |
slangasek | so yeah, maybe you do want someone other than tvoss. kgunn? | 15:27 |
infinity | InterContinental Ballistic Weasels? | 15:27 |
slangasek | infinity: wessels | 15:27 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:29 |
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
slangasek | anything else, besides uploading half the base system 5h before freeze? | 15:29 |
infinity | We could do the other half too. | 15:30 |
stgraber | 5h is way too optimistic, I expect most of those to be uploaded within an hour of the freeze ;) | 15:30 |
* slangasek gets an ulcer | 15:31 | |
infinity | Slightly more seriously, if people have good ideas (markety or buggy) for the release notes, it's a wiki, go add crap. I can always delete if we have too much, but no one likes panicing to write it all on Thursday morning. | 15:31 |
doko | no more planned openjdk and gcc uploads today | 15:31 |
infinity | doko: I like the "today" qualifier on that. | 15:31 |
slangasek | doko: oh, just the unplanned ones | 15:31 |
xnox | infinity: did you just stage wiki page dead-lock?! =) | 15:31 |
infinity | xnox: No, because no one will do it. | 15:32 |
* slangasek turns and points at everyone else in the channel | 15:32 | |
slangasek | do we have a list of release-notey bugs to work from, this cycle? | 15:33 |
infinity | Don't know if people have been adding tasks. | 15:33 |
* xnox was doing random searches of high/critical and things targeted at trusty milestones. it's not much | 15:33 | |
doko | damn, you did catch both "unplanned" and "today" ... | 15:33 |
infinity | There's always the ISO tracker bugs, but I'd like to think we'll fix the worst ones and pretend the rest don't exist because we're awesome. | 15:33 |
stgraber | I don't think we've been particularly good at targeting + tagging bugs this cycle | 15:33 |
xnox | the "rls-management" report is not very useful either. | 15:34 |
slangasek | xnox: there's an ubuntu-release-notes project | 15:34 |
slangasek | if things should be release noted, and you don't have time to write the blurb, please target a task there | 15:34 |
slangasek | and if you do have time to write the blurb, look there for things that might need writing :) | 15:34 |
xnox | they look old... | 15:35 |
slangasek | xnox: old ones ought to be wontfixed | 15:35 |
bdmurray | xnox: which rls-management report? | 15:35 |
slangasek | we're not realistically going to update the saucy release notes now | 15:36 |
xnox | bdmurray: rls-tracking/notracking/wontfixing | 15:36 |
xnox | bdmurray: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-t-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 15:36 |
infinity | To be fair, we've tended in the past to be a bit too liberal in our release noteyness. If it doesn't cause people installation/upgrade headaches or other such nastiness, it's just a bug, not a bug worth telling every single person about. | 15:36 |
slangasek | infinity: I disagree; major bugs that are going to be FAQs if we don't document them are worth including | 15:37 |
slangasek | not just bugs specifically related to installation and upgrade | 15:37 |
infinity | slangasek: That falls under "other nastiness", I suspect. It's a judgement call. | 15:37 |
slangasek | (and it's not really telling "everyone", just the .3% of users who read the release notes ;) | 15:38 |
infinity | slangasek: But there were people in the past that felt that anything with a release-notes task or a tracker link was release note worthy just cause. ;) | 15:38 |
slangasek | right, Judgement must be Exercised | 15:38 |
infinity | Oh joy. A glibc regression on (only) power8 that I now need to sort out if I just introduced or if it's always been there but I've never run the testsuit on P8 before. | 15:39 |
slangasek | infinity: enjoy | 15:39 |
infinity | (Betting the latter) | 15:39 |
xnox | slangasek: i wonder if both firefox and thunderbird need uploading. Firefox - because of nbs dependency & Thunderbird to drop U1 from sendit plugin. | 15:39 |
xnox | unless both things are in the works. | 15:40 |
infinity | xnox: I'm on firefox already. | 15:40 |
slangasek | xnox: AIUI dropping the thunderbird plugin was not strictly required | 15:40 |
slangasek | infinity: why is that not for the desktop team to take care of? | 15:40 |
infinity | xnox: I've had the fix committed for weeks, but now that we're past the point of no return for Chris uploading new versions (ie: I won't let him), I'll take care of it. :P | 15:40 |
infinity | slangasek: Well, like I said, I committed the fix to bzr weeks ago. | 15:40 |
infinity | slangasek: Under the assumption that it would magically land in Chris's next upload. And there wasn't one. :) | 15:41 |
xnox | infinity: which branches are used for thunderbird/firefox? (i lost track of the thunderbird patch) | 15:41 |
xnox | slangasek: ack. | 15:41 |
slangasek | ok | 15:42 |
slangasek | so, enough talk, back to action :) | 15:42 |
slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Apr 10 15:42:25 2014 UTC. | 15:42 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-04-10-15.04.moin.txt | 15:42 |
slangasek | thanks, all! | 15:42 |
infinity | xnox: debian/control tends to be (close to) accurate for ffox. No idea about tbird. | 15:42 |
stgraber | thanks! | 15:42 |
caribou | thanks | 15:42 |
jodh | thanks! | 15:42 |
infinity | *wave* | 15:42 |
stgraber | doko: leaving now, should be at the office in the next 15min, see you there! | 15:42 |
mvo | thanks | 15:43 |
doko | xnox, if you track the firefox upload, please see that http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html gets addressed ... | 15:44 |
xnox | doko: as per above, infinity already has firefox change ready for exactly that. | 15:45 |
doko | ahh, ok | 15:45 |
xnox | doko: otherwise i couldn't care less about firefox =) i don't use it. | 15:45 |
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