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| dholbach | good morning | 06:59 |
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| dholbach | ogra_, hola muchacho | 07:46 |
| dholbach | didrocks, salut mon ami | 07:46 |
| didrocks | hey dholbach! | 07:46 |
| dholbach | didrocks, ogra_: is there a good reason not to go ahead with https://code.launchpad.net/~dbarth/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.remove-cordova-2.8/+merge/215098? | 07:46 |
| dholbach | it's basically dropping a non-used package from ubuntu-sdk-libs | 07:47 |
| didrocks | dholbach: do you know if we got click apps using cordova 2.8? | 07:47 |
| dholbach | dbarth, ^ | 07:47 |
| didrocks | and if moving to 3 breaks compatibility with 2.8? | 07:47 |
| didrocks | (like I wrote an app for 2.8, it's broken with 3) | 07:47 |
| didrocks | if it's the case we need a clear communication on the toolkit breakage | 07:48 |
| didrocks | and Pat to sign off | 07:48 |
| dholbach | didrocks, that makes sense | 07:48 |
| dholbach | I think we had the conversation before and we don't have any click apps using it | 07:49 |
| dholbach | but it's worth checking with monsieur dbarth :) | 07:49 |
| didrocks | yeah | 07:49 |
| dbarth | oh wow, monsieur | 07:49 |
| dbarth | what's up? | 07:49 |
| dholbach | bien sur :) | 07:49 |
| didrocks | dbarth: heh, scroll back a little bit ^ | 07:49 |
| dbarth | ah yeah | 07:49 |
| dbarth | sure, seen it | 07:49 |
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| dbarth | i'm just waiting for one or 2 +1's one the MP | 07:50 |
| dbarth | so today is the day | 07:50 |
| dholbach | dbarth, did we check that there's no click apps making use of cordova-ubuntu-2.8? | 07:50 |
| dholbach | popey, could you point me to your "get all apps from the store" script again? :) | 07:51 |
| dholbach | popey, that'd be super helpful for cases like this :) | 07:51 |
| dbarth | dholbach: there is one, and he agreed to port | 07:51 |
| dbarth | i contacted him a few weeks ago | 07:51 |
| dholbach | dbarth, do you recall the name of the app? | 07:51 |
| dbarth | dholbach: http://iqfitfun.com/IQFitFunHtml/index.html | 07:55 |
| dbarth | dholbach: the developer is named Michael Biermann | 07:55 |
| dholbach | dbarth, ok, found it | 08:00 |
| morphis | rsalveti: which eglibc version is ubuntu using? | 08:02 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/eglic | 08:03 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc even | 08:03 |
| UTouchUser | Hi. Is there a way to disable automatic suspend/sleep (or whatever is the correct term) when Ubuntu Touch has been inactive for a while. I have a background computing job whose performance reduces dramatically | 08:05 |
| nhaines | Nope! | 08:07 |
| nhaines | The main problem is that people would abuse it. :( Better to do cloud processing. | 08:08 |
| dbarth | dholbach: i emailed him again to give him time to re-upload | 08:11 |
| UTouchUser | nhaines: Are you really sure about this? | 08:12 |
| nhaines | UTouchUser: yes. You can do it locally, but not through anything that can be released through the click store. | 08:13 |
| UTouchUser | nhaines: How can I do it locally? That would be OK for me | 08:13 |
| nhaines | Just write for Ubuntu and cross-compile for ARM. | 08:14 |
| UTouchUser | nhaines: I have a Java process that I would like to run on Ubuntu Touch while monitoring cpu, memory and power consumption (through UPower). However, if I'll plug my tablet (Nexus 7) off from the USB cable, the Java process becomes extremly slow to execute after the tablet enters into a some sort of sleep state | 08:16 |
| UTouchUser | nhaines: Is there any way to prevent this from happening? | 08:16 |
| UTouchUser | nhaines: On the other hand, if I'll leave the tablet connected to my workstation through USB, the Java process runs at its full speed | 08:17 |
| nhaines | Oh, you're already running outside of AppArmor? | 08:17 |
| nhaines | I have no idea then. Probably not. | 08:17 |
| nhaines | Might want to look at powerd or upstart, but I don't know what's controlling power savings anymore. | 08:17 |
| UTouchUser | nhaines: I have no idea what is AppArmor. I have been running this Java program through command line and on the top of the Oracle-provided JVM for ARM | 08:18 |
| ogra_ | UTouchUser, you could be brutal and stop powerd, but that might a) cause misbehavior of the rest of the system and b) wont help you collecting any accurate data for the power consumption | 08:18 |
| UTouchUser | Hmm... There seems to be no easy (if any way) then. The data that UPower gives while USB cable is connected 'seems not to take into account' the amount of power that the device takes from the USB port | 08:22 |
| UTouchUser | Hmm... If the cable is connected and I run a heavy Java process, the "energy-rate" given by UPower may show readings of ~1.6 W (at max) while without the cable and before entering into a 'sleep/standby' mode it can show even ~4 W | 08:23 |
| UTouchUser | In 'sleep/standby' mode the readings are ~1.3 W and the execution of the Java process has become extremly slow | 08:24 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Safety Pin Day! :-D | 08:27 |
| popey | dholbach: this is the "get all clicks" script http://paste.ubuntu.com/7229848/ | 08:33 |
| dholbach | popey, awesome, thanks | 08:36 |
| dholbach | popey, is that to be run on the phone or where do I get the credentials file from? :) | 08:42 |
| UTouchUser | Hmm... There's something like this "sudo powerd-cli active" in UTouch. Perhaps I should try if that makes the device to prevent entering into 'sleep' state | 08:46 |
| popey | dholbach: i can't remember, it was JamesTait who helped me set it up, its his script | 08:46 |
| JamesTait | What did I break now? | 08:46 |
| popey | UTouchUser: powerd-cli display on bright | 08:46 |
| popey | JamesTait: getting creds for the "download all the clicks script" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7229848/ | 08:46 |
| popey | for dholbach | 08:47 |
| JamesTait | That doesn't look like my script - maybe based on one of mine though. | 08:48 |
| JamesTait | popey, dholbach: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jamestait/+junk/click-support-tools/view/head:/get_click.py is the script I originally wrote. | 08:49 |
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| dholbach | JamesTait, hum.. I was looking for a script which downloads all click packages from the store :) | 08:51 |
| JamesTait | dholbach, I think that will allow you to get the credentials into an .ini-style config file in ~/.config/get_click/get_click.conf which you can then plug into a JSON file, but I'm not sure what the format of the JSON file needs to be. Let me see if I can find out. | 08:51 |
| dholbach | ah yes | 08:52 |
| dholbach | thanks JamesTait - I think I can take it from here then | 08:52 |
| JamesTait | dholbach, happy to help. :) | 08:53 |
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| omnibook10 | Hi, i was wondering where the i386 img of Ubuntu Touch 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) is located? | 11:57 |
| omnibook10 | I was trying to boot from usb on a HP Omnibook 10 | 11:57 |
| popey | omnibook10: i dont believe we have an image for that device | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | yeah. you would have to port ... and you would be the first one to successfully port to an x86 device too :) | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | (if there is even an android image you can base on for this device) | 12:00 |
| popey | well, we have an x86 image for the emulator... | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | right, rootfs is there | 12:00 |
| omnibook10 | it has a 64bit compatible processor: http://ark.intel.com/de/products/78415/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z3770D-2M-Cache-up-to-2_41-GHz | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | you still need the android layer for drivers etc | 12:01 |
| omnibook10 | how come, it runs on Intel hardware and 32bit/64bit windows | 12:02 |
| omnibook10 | i guess any ubuntu touch with ms surface support should work - is there such thing? | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | ubuntu touch uses the android drivers for all its backends | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | what you could do an an x86 device would be to do a normal 14.04 install, then install the unity8 preview session and run that ... but that wont give you much in hardware support, just the UI bits | 12:04 |
| omnibook10 | will i get multitouch support? | 12:04 |
| omnibook10 | in the UI ? | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | in a real ubuntu touch devices you get all the (android) driver supports | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | *device | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | two finger zoom etc | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | i dont think that will work with the preview session | 12:05 |
| omnibook10 | will the unity8 preview have the two finger zoom? | 12:05 |
| omnibook10 | ah ok | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | you would have to try | 12:05 |
| omnibook10 | ok I will thank you | 12:05 |
| * ogra_ never ran the preview session thing ... | 12:06 | |
| omnibook10 | thank you!! | 12:08 |
| omnibook10 | byeee | 12:09 |
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| ogra_ | sergiusens, can you approve https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/phablet-tools/fix-bootchart-tmpdir-creation/+merge/214980 and https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/phablet-tools/fix-bootchart-tmpdir-creation/+merge/214980 ? | 12:52 |
| ogra_ | )i think andy uses a local hack of this already though) | 12:53 |
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| sergiusens | ogra_: affirmative | 12:56 |
| ogra_ | merci | 12:56 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: aren't those the same MR? | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, oops | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | copy paste :P | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/phablet-tools/no-sudo-in-phablet-network/+merge/214921 | 13:06 |
| ogra_ | sorry :) | 13:06 |
| sil2100 | oSoMoN: hi! | 13:17 |
| sil2100 | oSoMoN: we have an urgent webbrowser-app landing right now, so we would have to assign a silo with the 'ignore conflicts' option | 13:18 |
| sil2100 | oSoMoN: this will basically mean that once that webbrowser-app landing lands, you will have to rebuild your webbrowser-app in your silo... | 13:18 |
| sil2100 | oSoMoN: I will add it as a comment in your landing if anything | 13:18 |
| mhall119 | so many nice things landing in devel-proposed....it's so hard not to flash to it | 13:50 |
| popey | hahah | 13:53 |
| popey | wuss | 13:53 |
| didrocks | mhall119: resistance is futile? :p | 13:53 |
| didrocks | mhall119: more seriously, the blockers are in a good path since yesterday | 13:53 |
| didrocks | I can see light! | 13:53 |
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| mhall119 | I don't care about light, I want you to see an image promotion :) | 13:57 |
| mhall119 | actualy, no, *I* want to see an image promotion | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | does that mean you expect him to doo it blindfolded ? | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | -o | 13:59 |
| mhall119 | hey, whatever he needs to make it happen | 13:59 |
| mhall119 | I'm not judging | 13:59 |
| ogra_ | heh | 14:06 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: ping when you're around | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | hey mhall119 | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | mhall119, oh, i forgot about the failure you hit when generating the docs | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | what was it again? | 14:18 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: ResponsiveGridView didn't have an HTML page generated for it | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | and that was an error? | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | there shouldn't be docs for that, it's used internally | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | it's listed in the .index for content-hub docs | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | but doesn't exist in reality | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | ah | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | so it's making my import script fial | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | i see | 14:20 |
| mhall119 | fail even | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | was that what your ping was about? or something else? | 14:20 |
| mhall119 | something else, actually, but this is higher priority | 14:20 |
| mhall119 | I was going to check on the wallpapers click packaging we talked about last sprint | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | ah, i got a bit distracted since we lost the background in the shell... just shown in the greeter | 14:21 |
| mhall119 | right....is that coming back or will the dash continue to be opaque? | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | i haven't heard | 14:22 |
| mhall119 | ok | 14:22 |
| mhall119 | anyway, low priority on that, getting updated content-hub docs is more important | 14:22 |
| kenvandine | mhall119, did anyone from design ever actually weigh in on that thread? | 14:24 |
| mhall119 | about wallpaper packageS? | 14:24 |
| * kenvandine is still annoyed by losing wallpapers :/ | 14:24 | |
| kenvandine | about them being displayed | 14:24 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 14:24 |
| mhall119 | I don't recall anyone from design chiming in, no | 14:24 |
| mhall119 | mhr3_: new scopes can define their own background image now, right? | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | there lots of +1s on that thread | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | oh, scopes can control their background? | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | maybe by default they can be transparent :) | 14:25 |
| mhall119 | I thought so | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | then the system setting should control the apps scope background by default | 14:26 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: that's what I was thinking | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | or just make them transparent so the wallpaper shows through | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | unless the scope sets it | 14:26 |
| alex-abreu | mandel, (no pressure just news), issues w/ the MIR? | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | yeah, thats woould be better, but indeed break the concept of "scopes have their own bg" | 14:27 |
| mandel | alex-abreu, we are in a silo to tray and merge everything and is a big one (nm, ofono, udm, mms) | 14:27 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: I'm not sure how dash works, "transparent" might not do what you want | 14:27 |
| mandel | alex-abreu, if there are updates I'll ping you | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | mhall119, yeah, not sure | 14:27 |
| alex-abreu | mandel, sure, ... | 14:28 |
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| sil2100 | oSoMoN: hi! So, we published the other webbrowser-app landing and I now triggered a rebuild of it in your silo | 14:59 |
| oSoMoN | sil2100, excellent, thanks! | 14:59 |
| sil2100 | yw! | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, the doc generation for d.u.c is failing for content-hub, because the generated index file includes references for ResponsiveGridView which we don't generate docs for | 15:32 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, i can't seem to figure out how to exclude that | 15:32 |
| kenvandine | i tried excludefiles | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | didn't work... | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, any ideas? | 15:33 |
| Elleo | kenvandine: not sure, will take a look | 15:34 |
| kenvandine | thx | 15:34 |
| kenvandine | it's killing me :) | 15:34 |
| kenvandine | if we go through and add \internal docstrings for all the functions and properties it does create an html file for it, so it wouldn't break mhall119's tool for importing them | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | but that seems silly... since none of that is public api | 15:35 |
| Elleo | yeah | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | excludefiles = ../../../import/Ubuntu/Content/ResponsiveGridView.qml | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | i would expect that to work | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | but it doesn't... | 15:35 |
| Elleo | kenvandine: heh, this is nice; you know how sourcedirs/headerdirs/etc. no longer work with absolute paths? well it'd appear excludefiles now *only* works with absolute paths :P | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | hahaha! | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | i just assumed it suffered from the same problem | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 15:48 |
| Elleo | yeah, the docs for it show an example with a relative path too | 15:48 |
| Elleo | but it only seems to actually exclude things when I give it an absolute path | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | so you have a fix :) | 15:50 |
| Elleo | yeah, will push a branch now | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | great, lets have mhall119 try out your branch | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | make sure it works with his import script | 15:50 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: what branch? | 15:52 |
| Elleo | mhall119: just pushing now | 15:53 |
| mhall119 | ok | 15:53 |
| Elleo | mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/content-hub/qdoc-fix-grid-view | 15:53 |
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| mhall119 | kenvandine: Elleo: http://91.189.92.89/api/qml/sdk-14.04/Ubuntu.Content/ | 16:14 |
| mhall119 | btw, if there's anything that needs to be deleted, I have to do that manually still | 16:15 |
| Elleo | mhall119: cool, looks like we should add summaries to a few of those, other than it looks good :) | 16:19 |
| mhall119 | Elleo: kenvandine: shall I push these docs to production, or wait for those summaries? | 16:19 |
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| Elleo | mhall119: I can add some summaries quickly now | 16:24 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, thx | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | alex_abreu, jono, isnt bug 1283601 a matter of the app defining "SingleInstance=true" in its .desktop file ? | 16:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1283601 in WebApps: libunity-webapps "More than one web app can be loaded at the same time" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1283601 | 16:37 |
| Elleo | mhall119: pushed | 16:38 |
| alex_abreu | ogra_, its actually an issue w/ some cruft that pollute 7 confuse bamf/unity ... | 16:39 |
| ogra_ | ah, desktop ... | 16:39 |
| ogra_ | that dieing stuff ... | 16:39 |
| ogra_ | :) | 16:40 |
| EyeMonkey | hi there | 16:44 |
| EyeMonkey | just arrived here i was wondering if someone knows if it's possible to instal the latest ubunto on an Iphone 5s | 16:45 |
| asac | should we be scared that apt-cache depends --recurse libqt5core5a | grep gallery-app has a hit? | 16:45 |
| EyeMonkey | ubuntu | 16:45 |
| ogra_ | asac, thats for desktop ... galleryy on the phone is click | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | EyeMonkey, nope, not possible | 16:46 |
| asac | ogra_: well, question still stands :) | 16:46 |
| asac | ogra_: why is libqtcore pulling in gallery-app :) | 16:46 |
| EyeMonkey | Thanks Ogra ^.^ | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | asac, its desktop ... who cares :P | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | asac, i suspect Mirv might know, but i think he is off for the evening | 16:47 |
| asac | ogra_: well: apt-cache depends --recurse libqt5core5a | grep -v ^\ | grep ubuntu-touch-session | 16:47 |
| asac | ubuntu-touch-session | 16:47 |
| asac | not much better | 16:47 |
| asac | :) | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | asac, what are you trying to prove there ? | 16:48 |
| asac | nothing :)... just tryuing to figure what qt5 pulls in | 16:49 |
| asac | :) | 16:49 |
| asac | apt-cache depends --no-pre-depends --no-suggests --no-conflicts --no-breaks --no-replaces --no-enhances --recurse libqt5core5a | 16:49 |
| asac | seems to be closer | 16:49 |
| asac | but nevermind | 16:49 |
| asac | dont want to distract anyone :) | 16:49 |
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| Saviq | daker, hey, is this branch active, or can be deleted / marked Abandoned? https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/unity8/fix.battery.slider | 17:09 |
| daker | Saviq: well i don't know, i made a MR(if you remember) but hasn't been merged | 17:11 |
| daker | do you want me to delete it ? | 17:11 |
| Saviq | daker, right, the MP isn't there any more? | 17:11 |
| Saviq | daker, if you want to get it merged, please MP again | 17:11 |
| daker | Saviq: i see, yes this one should be remove | 17:12 |
| daker | since we made a fix here https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/ubuntu-settings-components/fix.slider | 17:12 |
| Saviq | daker, right, yes, please delete or mark Abandoned | 17:13 |
| daker | deleted | 17:13 |
| Saviq | daker, thanks! | 17:13 |
| dobey | mhall119: hey, might you know why the core apps don't have the X-Ubuntu-Application-ID field in their .desktop files? | 17:15 |
| mhall119 | dobey: probably their .desktop hasn't been updated since before that was a thing | 17:16 |
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| mhr3 | mhr3 | 17:23 |
| mhr3 | eh | 17:24 |
| mhr3 | mhall119, there's still open design question what should really be customizable | 17:24 |
| mhr3 | maybe it'll be just background color | 17:24 |
| mhr3 | not really an image | 17:24 |
| mhall119 | Elleo: http://91.189.92.89/api/qml/sdk-14.04/Ubuntu.Content/ better? | 17:35 |
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| mhall119 | kenvandine: ^^ | 17:55 |
| mhall119 | I need a +1 so I can publish them to production | 17:55 |
| kenvandine | mhall119, not yet... did you see the comment from dpm? | 17:56 |
| kenvandine | he pointed out there are docs for ContentImportHint | 17:56 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: where | 17:56 |
| mhall119 | ? | 17:56 |
| kenvandine | which has actually been removed... but maybe the file never got dropped | 17:56 |
| kenvandine | ubuntu-app-devel | 17:56 |
| kenvandine | it's now ContentTransferHint | 17:57 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: ah, yeah, the importer doesn't remove things, so if that class is gone I need to manually delete it | 17:57 |
| kenvandine | oh... | 17:57 |
| kenvandine | ah... that explains it :) | 17:58 |
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| mhall119 | so, yes to push to production? | 18:36 |
| Elleo | looks okay to me | 18:49 |
| kenvandine | oh oh oh... google calendar and contact sync just appeared! | 18:53 |
| kenvandine | SO exciting! | 18:54 |
| tedg | jdstrand, So if we're talking independent of the 14.04 release schedule, shouldn't we just implement group delete with Upstart cgroups? | 19:01 |
| tedg | I'm confused why we'd want to have appmgr handle this. | 19:01 |
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| jdstrand | I just saw the upstart work items for cgroups be postponed. I figured this was cause of systemd | 19:02 |
| jdstrand | but the actual kill mechanism doesn't matter | 19:03 |
| tedg | Not sure, let's invoke slangasek | 19:03 |
| tedg | :-) | 19:03 |
| tedg | Sure, but it matters whether we put it in app manager of have the init daemon do it. | 19:03 |
| jdstrand | we need to notice that something that something happened, then kill stuff appropriately | 19:03 |
| tedg | or | 19:03 |
| jdstrand | true | 19:03 |
| tedg | I think that's something the "init system" what ever that is, should handle. | 19:04 |
| tedg | Keep app manager higher level | 19:04 |
| jdstrand | tedg: I guess you are saying if the the leader dies, upstart should kill it all? | 19:04 |
| tedg | Yes | 19:04 |
| tedg | Scorched earth process management. | 19:05 |
| jdstrand | sure, assuming that is enough | 19:05 |
| jdstrand | like for chromium, the zygote dying is unrecoverable | 19:05 |
| jdstrand | so it would probably crash | 19:05 |
| jdstrand | which would make the leader go away | 19:05 |
| jdstrand | and restart | 19:05 |
| jdstrand | but, eh | 19:06 |
| jdstrand | maybe that is ok? | 19:06 |
| tedg | I'm okay with it :-) | 19:06 |
| jdstrand | what I'm thinking about is a non-leader dying | 19:06 |
| jdstrand | when they are all in STOP | 19:06 |
| tedg | That should be normal operation though, right? The process parent has to handle children. | 19:07 |
| jdstrand | I think chrisccoulson said chromium won't handle the zygote dying | 19:07 |
| jdstrand | it handle the others | 19:07 |
| slangasek | tedg: cgroups postponed for 14.04 because it's very difficult to get right and we're out of time for 14.04. If upstart cgroup support is going to be a dependency for phone work, we should make sure we know what you need, and whether we should address this in upstart or plan to deal with it on top of systemd instead | 19:08 |
| jdstrand | hey if it fixes the bug, I guess its ok, but I like the fuller scorched earth any STOPped process that isn't around gets everything killed | 19:08 |
| jdstrand | also, I'm pretty sure we could have an appmgr patch in a few days. we won't have an upstart patch that quickly | 19:09 |
| tedg | slangasek, For this one case, and since we have cgroups manager, would it make sense to just build the group in pre-start ? | 19:09 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: Elleo: dpm: new content-hub docs are in production | 19:10 |
| kenvandine | mhall119, thx | 19:10 |
| slangasek | tedg: that's the workaround that we're proposing in general for 14.04 - if you need cgroups, use pre-start to create the group and post-start to move the process into the group. jodh is to write up the howto | 19:10 |
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| jdstrand | but I don't particularly care who does the killing. appmgr has a nice ring to it about managing apps, so it seemed reasonable :) | 19:10 |
| tedg | Yeah, for the most part app manager only cares about app ids. | 19:10 |
| tedg | It passes everything else down to UAL. (plus or minus) | 19:11 |
| jdstrand | suspend and resume acred about process groups | 19:11 |
| jdstrand | cared | 19:11 |
| tedg | Yeah, they're trying to get me to take that :-) | 19:11 |
| jdstrand | so, seemed to fit | 19:11 |
| jdstrand | I see | 19:11 |
| jdstrand | well, feel free to assign the bug to yourself and go nuts :) | 19:11 |
| tedg | Heh | 19:12 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, that sounds like it will cost us app startup time again | 19:12 |
| jdstrand | tedg: btw, will that be 'ubuntu-app-launch' going forward? | 19:12 |
| tedg | It sounds like we can do something pre-start-ish to make it work quickly. | 19:12 |
| slangasek | ogra_: I don't know the startup costs of the cgmanager tools; this should be measured | 19:12 |
| tedg | jdstrand, Yeah, avoiding 14.04 for that change. Waiting for the new archive. | 19:12 |
| * jdstrand nods | 19:12 | |
| ogra_ | slangasek, definitely, especially since our startup time while it got better is still pretty suboptimal imho | 19:13 |
| jdstrand | tedg: have you ever read 'What's in a name?' in /usr/share/doc/ufw/README.gz? | 19:13 |
| dpm | thanks mhall119 \o/ | 19:25 |
| Elleo | mhall119: great, thanks :) | 19:27 |
| oal | Can I flash my S3 with ubuntu-device-flash? | 19:29 |
| tedg | jdstrand, Heh, can we call it u-app-launch? ;-) | 19:31 |
| oal | I've flashed cm_i9300... but how do I flash the trusty-preinstalled-touch...? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51690682&postcount=223 | 19:31 |
| oal | Extract it to the sd card and boot from it? | 19:32 |
| kenvandine | renato, are there plans to support multiple calendar sync for a single account? | 19:39 |
| renato | kenvandine, not yet | 19:39 |
| renato | kenvandine, you can ask that for bfiller :D | 19:39 |
| bfiller | kenvandine: that's next week :) | 19:39 |
| bfiller | kenvandine: need to fix single calendar first | 19:40 |
| kenvandine | bfiller :) | 19:48 |
| kenvandine | bfiller, renato: i'm just excited to have syncing at all :) | 19:48 |
| kenvandine | great work! | 19:48 |
| kenvandine | renato, i'm played around with editing a couple contacts and i'm seeing some errors in the sync-monitor log | 19:49 |
| kenvandine | "error" : "error code from SyncEvolution remote, status 400: PUT: bad HTTP status: <status 1.1, code 400, class 4, Bad Request>" | 19:49 |
| kenvandine | i know that probably isn't very helpful :) | 19:49 |
| kenvandine | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7232215/ | 19:51 |
| kenvandine | renato, ^^ | 19:51 |
| renato | kenvandine, could you report a bug for that, we saw that some time ago but we thought that we have fixed that | 19:53 |
| kenvandine | sure | 19:53 |
| renato | kenvandine, if possible could you run this: syncevolution --sync two-way loglevel=4 google-contacts-2 contacts_uoa_2 | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | syre | 19:55 |
| kenvandine | sure | 19:55 |
| kenvandine | renato, do i need to kill anything first? | 19:55 |
| renato | and attache the files found in .cache/syncevolution/<last-created-dir> | 19:55 |
| renato | kenvandine, stop sync-monitor | 19:55 |
| renato | looks like there is a memory corruption on sync evolution, I am trying to catch that | 19:56 |
| kenvandine | renato, which last created dir? there is one that starts with target_ and one that starts with google_ | 19:58 |
| renato | kenvandine, sorry, inside of both directories has another one with the last sync date | 19:59 |
| kenvandine | renato, so all the files in both directories? | 20:00 |
| renato | yes | 20:00 |
| cyphermox | awe_: hey, does ofono bring in phonet-at? | 20:00 |
| kenvandine | has all my contacts in those logs... how about i email those logs? | 20:00 |
| cyphermox | awe_: nevermind, I'll just nuke --enable-pnat from bluez. | 20:02 |
| kenvandine | renato, bug 1306238 | 20:03 |
| ubot5 | bug 1306238 in sync-monitor (Ubuntu) "bad HTTP status: <status 1.1, code 400, class 4, Bad Request>" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1306238 | 20:03 |
| kenvandine | renato, and i emailed all those logs | 20:03 |
| tedg | mterry, Can you look at this please: https://code.launchpad.net/~jconti/indicator-sound/fix-vc-interface/+merge/215288 | 20:04 |
| mterry | tedg, looking | 20:04 |
| mterry | tedg, that name should be right... | 20:05 |
| mterry | tedg, that schema should be in accountsservice-ubuntu-schemas | 20:07 |
| mterry | tedg, looks like there is a missing dep on that | 20:09 |
| mterry | tedg, I have a memory of adding it though... | 20:09 |
| mterry | tedg, so we have two options: a) fix that or b) don't -- option A means dropping a last minute feature in before feature freeze to sync sound on the desktop | 20:11 |
| mterry | tedg, color me nervous | 20:11 |
| tedg | mterry, So it seems we need to patch it, overall, we can decided whether to SRU it when that opens. | 20:16 |
| tedg | mterry, I think we're already beyond freeze, no? | 20:17 |
| mterry | tedg, I think you have 40min left? | 20:17 |
| mterry | before Final Freeze | 20:17 |
| tedg | So, as I said, we're already too late for freeze :-) | 20:18 |
| mterry | tedg, we only need to patch it if we want to enable the volume syncing for desktop. Which while nice, I don't think is a make-or-break thing. Much more important for Touch | 20:18 |
| tedg | Are the schemas seeded? | 20:18 |
| tedg | Is this someone who isn't using a desktop seed perhaps. | 20:19 |
| mterry | tedg, only seeded in touch | 20:21 |
| tedg | mterry, So then, for desktop, do we want it? I mean, if we added it ot indicator-sound would that be desired? | 20:27 |
| mterry | tedg, yeah theoretically | 20:28 |
| mterry | tedg, just seems like a big change for an SRU or to squeeze in now | 20:28 |
| tedg | mterry, Yeah, makes sense to me. | 20:35 |
| mterry | tedg, sorry about that. I was so touch focused, where we seed that. I tested on desktop, but I have that package installed | 20:35 |
| tedg | Yeah, me too. | 20:39 |
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| jfbrown | hey all | 22:00 |
| jfbrown | anybody put version 250 on a 2013 nexus 7 lately? I'm struggling | 22:01 |
| jfbrown | anybody have any suggestions regarding who to talk to? | 22:12 |
| jfbrown | I've been reading everything I can find online to no avail | 22:13 |
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| Saviq | jfbrown, nexus 7 2013 is a supported device, did you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install ? | 22:37 |
| Saviq | jfbrown, if so, and it failed, please describe your issues and provide as much info as possible, and either file a bug in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch or send an email to ubuntu-phone mailing list ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net | 22:39 |
| jfbrown | okay | 22:46 |
| jfbrown | I did follow the instructions, and I just get a hanging screen | 22:47 |
| jfbrown | no errors | 22:47 |
| jfbrown | but nothing happens | 22:47 |
| jfbrown | apparently there's no verbose mode for the ubuntu-device-flash, so I have no idea where it's getting stuck | 22:47 |
| jfbrown | I'm not sure it's a bug; it could be me, but I have no idea how to proceed | 22:48 |
| matthew | hello! | 23:15 |
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| Guest72915 | Could somebody possibly help me with installing Ubuntu Touch? | 23:16 |
| Guest72915 | ? | 23:16 |
| Guest72915 | ? | 23:16 |
| Guest72915 | ? | 23:16 |
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