[05:44] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[05:44] <nuvolari> oom moet 'n lekker dag hê :->
[05:44] <Kilos> lo nuvolari en ander
[05:44] <Kilos> jy ook dankie
[05:54] <jabberwocky93> morning all
[05:54] <Kilos> hi jabberwocky93 Spekko 
[05:57] <Spekko> morning Kilos
[06:27] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/100056-most-malware-ridden-hosts-in-south-africa.html
[06:29] <Kilos> looks like there is malware everywhere
[06:29] <Kilos> thank heavens for linux
[06:30] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:30] <Kilos> you with hetzner hey
[06:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes
[06:55] <Kilos> looks like malware is in everywhere
[07:01] <superfly> morning all
[07:01] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[07:49] <Kilos> Fetched 145 MB in 3min 3s (792 kB/s) 
[07:49] <Kilos> one can live with this speed
[07:52] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[07:53] <psyatw> hi Rynomster 
[07:53] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[07:53] <psyatw> wow, that's pretty fast
[07:53] <psyatw> for dial-up, I mean
[07:53] <Kilos> yeah its great for mobile
[07:54] <Kilos> hehe when i started i was happy with 10kB/s
[07:54] <Kilos> old gprs speed
[07:54] <psyatw> yeah
[08:18] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[08:20] <Rynomster> hi psyatw
[08:20] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[08:20] <psyatw> oop
[08:20] <psyatw> s
[08:20] <psyatw> hi Vince-0 
[08:20] <Rynomster> hi Kilos
[08:20] <Rynomster> hi Vince-0
[08:31] <Kilos> hi Rynomster you been quiet hey
[08:31] <charl_> good morning
[08:31] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[08:31]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:32] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[08:32] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[08:32] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[08:32] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[08:32] <charl_> how's it going
[08:32] <charl_> Maaz: large
[08:32] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you charl_
[08:32] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[08:32] <charl_> now we're talking
[08:32] <psyatw> good morning charl_ 
[08:32] <charl_> hey psyatw !
[08:32] <charl_> how's it going
[08:33] <psyatw> I'm doing well, got a bit busy again
[08:33] <psyatw> how are you dong?
[08:33] <Rynomster> lol im very quiet :P I forget to connect to my quassel core sometimes
[08:33] <charl_> i'm doing great
[08:33] <charl_> hi Rynomster 
[08:33] <psyatw> I have a week ful of training ahead
[08:33] <Rynomster> hi charl_
[08:33] <psyatw> full*
[08:33] <charl_> psyatw: whow ! new job going well then?
[08:34] <psyatw> charl_, we haven't actually worked yet, it's been mostly training until now. but I'm not complaining :)
[08:34] <charl_> lol
[08:34] <charl_> that's nice !
[08:34] <Vince-0> haai
[08:34] <Kilos> Rynomster, you need to tie a knot is something so you dont forget us
[08:34] <charl_> hi Vince-0 
[08:34] <Vince-0> hello
[08:34] <psyatw> I installed the latest jdk, netbeans and mingw on my windows laptop
[08:35] <charl_> netbeans :(
[08:35] <charl_> people still use that?
[08:35] <psyatw> whenever they don't ask us to do some windows stuff I can code
[08:35] <psyatw> hmm
[08:35] <psyatw> I haven't tried eclipse yet
[08:35] <psyatw> but on linux it used to crash all the time
[08:35] <charl_> that probably has not changed much :)
[08:35] <psyatw> :)
[08:35] <charl_> i had the misfortune of having to work with spring tool suite recently
[08:35] <charl_> that is based off eclipse
[08:35] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos!
[08:36] <psyatw> a lightweight IDE on windows would be nice, but I don't know any
[08:36] <charl_> i have to keep rebuilding workspaces and i get the weirdest behaviour
[08:36] <Kilos> Maaz, gracias
[08:36] <Maaz> Kilos: ¡de nada!
[08:36] <psyatw> and I prefer not to use ms tools
[08:36] <charl_> and all these context menus that keep popping up drive me insane
[08:36] <psyatw> yeah
[08:36] <charl_> jdeveloper is actually more solid but it's terribly bloated
[08:36] <charl_> and it can also crash on you at random intervals
[08:36] <charl_> and needless to say it's very user unfriendly
[08:37] <charl_> i now use vim for literally all my development, including java
[08:37] <charl_> and then i use maven to build
[08:38] <charl_> i needed to put a bunch of settings into my .vimrc to make it work really nicely though, and i still haven't figured out everything
[08:38] <psyatw> yeah
[08:38] <charl_> the biggest issue i have left is doing code quality stuff like removing unused imports, variables etc
[08:38] <psyatw> but it's so much simpler and more lightweight
[08:38] <charl_> i need to find some way of doing code quality control
[08:39] <psyatw> are there no tools for that?
[08:39] <Kilos> you okes chat so fast my poor 14.04 is about 10 lines behind with popup notifications
[08:39] <Kilos> just go ide nada
[08:39] <Kilos> got
[08:40] <charl_> psyatw: there are a lot of tools available but i still need to figure out which ones to use
[08:40] <charl_> psyatw: i'll tell you when i have it figured out
[08:40] <psyatw> charl_, that would be nice, I don't like these IDEs either but on Windows the whole environment is even more challenged as you know
[08:41] <psyatw> even cmd.exe is a big pile of crap that I try not to touch
[08:41] <charl_> the one we use at work is an older version of this: http://www.sonarqube.org/
[08:42] <charl_> afaik that still sets the standards
[08:42] <psyatw> that looks very nice indeed
[08:43] <charl_> you can combine it with a tool like http://jenkins-ci.org/ to automatically do analysis
[08:43] <charl_> and it's very detailed
[08:46] <psyatw> yeah
[08:46] <charl_> here's my current ~/.vimrc http://paste.ubuntu.com/7229875/
[08:48] <psyatw> thanks
[08:48] <charl_> i'm not too happy with hlsearch but the rest seems to work pretty well
[08:49] <charl_> ok i'm off to get some actual work done :)
[08:49] <charl_> ttyl
[08:49] <psyatw> ttyl
[08:49] <psyatw> :)
[08:58] <Squirm> hey all
[08:58] <Squirm> Trixar_za: how's it going?
[08:58] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[08:58] <Squirm> heya Kilos 
[08:59] <psyatw> hi Squirm 
[09:59] <Trixar_za> Oh hey Squirm
[11:54] <Kilos> hi Golynx how's the neck
[12:04] <Golynx> hi Kilos, its kinda worse
[12:04] <Kilos> ai!
[12:05] <Golynx> stiff and hard on the right side
[12:05] <charl_> back
[12:05] <charl_> hi Golynx, what happened to the neck ?
[12:05] <Golynx> but i will wait it out
[12:06] <Kilos> gently massage the bad side
[12:06] <Golynx> hi charl_ , something in my neck snapped while i was sleeping 2 nights ago
[12:07] <Golynx> Kilos: i cant touch the source of the pain its intense
[12:07] <charl_> whow !
[12:07] <charl_> look after yourself :(
[12:07] <Kilos> ai!
[12:07] <Kilos> you got ice packs in the freezer?
[12:08] <Golynx> thanks charl_ , if it gets worse i go see the doctor :)
[12:08] <Golynx> tried that Kilos , doesn't help though, not even pain pills
[12:08] <charl_> good idea
[12:08] <Kilos> no often someone breaks his own neck
[12:09] <charl_> i think you should go NOW
[12:09] <charl_> if it's that bad ...
[12:10] <Golynx> charl_ i usually go see the doc when i cant take it anymore. Still hoping it will heal somehow
[12:11] <Kilos> this has happened before?
[12:12] <Golynx> Kilos: nope, but its deffo bad posture that caused it
[12:13] <Golynx> how can you undislocate a neck ? lol 
[12:13] <Kilos> let someone lift you by the chin and back of head
[12:13] <Kilos> or do it yourself
[12:15] <Golynx> yor! thats extremely risky. Its like one wrong move and Snap! dead :P
[12:15] <Kilos> no man
[12:16] <Kilos> dont twist just lift
[12:16] <Kilos> actually go to the doc then tell us what he did
[12:17] <Golynx> i will , if it gets too much for me to handle , thanks
[12:29] <Kilos> found a lekker command
[12:29] <Kilos> gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "['more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope', 'more_suggestions-populartracks.scope', 'music-musicstore.scope', 'more_suggestions-ebay.scope', 'more_suggestions-ubuntushop.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope']"
[12:30] <Kilos> goodbye amazon
[12:59] <Squirm> I want
[12:59] <Squirm> the sleep
[12:59] <Squirm> 1 more day to go..
[13:43] <nuvolari> oh hi Squirm 
[13:43] <nuvolari> what wheels you getting?
[13:45] <Squirm> nuvolari: a little Ford Fiesta 1.6
[13:45] <Squirm> 2007 model
[13:45] <Squirm> it's going to kick ass
[14:15] <nuvolari> awesome!
[14:15] <nuvolari> congrats Squirm!
[14:25]  * jabberwocky93 needs a new ride
[14:27] <jabberwocky93> actually I just need to fix my current one! but I wont complain if I can get a new set of wheels :P
[15:18] <jabberwocky93> bye
[15:18]  * jabberwocky93 vrooooooom
[15:18] <Kilos> toods
[15:18] <Kilos> hehe
[15:18] <jabberwocky93> :
[15:18] <jabberwocky93> :)
[15:18] <Kilos> bits and pieces
[15:58] <Kilos> wbb. gonna see if i can trace sound in xchat
[16:51] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[16:51] <Kilos> you okes and your mobile devices
[16:52] <psydroid> hi Kilos 
[16:52] <psydroid> haha
[16:52] <psydroid> yeah
[17:06] <Golynx> hi psydroid
[17:08] <psydroid> hi Golynx 
[17:10] <Golynx> seems like mobile devices are becoming like pc's in the hardware too . www.cnet.com/news/google-launches-first-project-ara-module-developers-kit/
[17:11] <Golynx> if you want a bigger camera just put in a bigger camera blok lol http://www.cnet.com/news/google-launches-first-project-ara-module-developers-kit/
[17:12] <psydroid> ah, interesting
[17:13] <Golynx> i dont see a point though to building your own phone from "bloks" held together by electromagnets
[17:18] <psydroid> maybe they should be more modular, though
[17:19] <psydroid> but I am wondering if there is a point anyway
[17:26] <Golynx> with such extreme customization in the hardware, but almost none  in the Android OS :D
[17:32] <Golynx> Kilos: i found that there is a name for my neck problem , its called torticollis or "twisted neck", is a painful disorder of the muscle in the neck where the head is tilted to one side.
[17:33] <Kilos> caused by?
[17:34] <Golynx> sleeping while the window open , sleeping in an awkward position, history of an unusual activity the day before. I read somewhere
[17:35] <Kilos> whew
[17:37] <Golynx> but i know its the awkward sleeping position. The muscle the holds a neck disc in place is contorted. No known cure though.
[17:37] <Golynx> that too
[17:38] <Golynx> guess we cant even trust our own bodies while we're sleeping lol
[17:38] <Kilos> yeah looks like
[17:39] <Kilos> exrcise helps normally
[17:39] <Kilos> exercise
[17:40] <Golynx> thats true, but usually gets worse when you exercise the wrong way. 
[17:40] <Kilos> yeah well dont do push ups with your head
[17:41] <Golynx> thats why physiotherapists types of people exists, to not let us do further damage i guess
[17:41] <Golynx> lol
[17:42] <Golynx> i made my own neck brace thing , so not to use the neck muscles so much
[17:43] <Kilos> yeah but once healed start exercising to strengthen neck muscles
[17:45] <Golynx> i read somewhere it goes away in 7 days, but dunno for sure
[17:45] <Golynx> i will do so :)
[17:58] <Kilos> im gonna try have an early night
[17:59] <Kilos> sleep tight everyone. see ya all tomorrow
[17:59] <Kilos> Maaz, watch them
[17:59] <Maaz> OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you
[17:59] <Golynx> take care Kilos
[17:59] <Golynx> sleep well
[17:59] <Kilos> ty you too lad