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nvonany easy way to activate hibernate in an encrypted disk?00:02
starratsFibz I don't think xchat has that'auto-authenticate'00:07
starratsneither does hexchat00:07
`Fibzin the network list, it stores your login credentials00:11
starratsah okay, it's been awhile I've used xchat, more on hexchat and weechat and weechat will do everything for you you set all the paramenters at first00:13
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xubuntu967Hey whats up! i installed Xubuntu and i'm just wondering how to shutdown the computer.01:22
xubuntu967Hey whats up! i installed Xubuntu and i'm just wondering how to shutdown the computer.01:22
xubuntu967Hey whats up! i installed Xubuntu and i'm just wondering how to shutdown the computer.01:23
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christofferIs it possible to change the color of the frame around active windows when using alt+tab?06:20
christofferusing 12.0406:20
`Fibzyeah but thats more of an xfce thing than a xubuntu thing06:35
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xubuntu280alright, xubuntu didn't even finished installing and i can already chat08:21
xubuntu280thanks a million to all ubuntu and xubuntu developers08:22
xubuntu280i hope it will reboot ok.08:22
Unit193Glad you like it, I do.08:26
xubuntu280Unit193: yeah, i do too. ubuntu pretty much rocks most of the time...08:29
xubuntu280ok rebooting now08:29
NoviceHello10:45
NoviceDoes anybody know whether any non-free proprietary software can be removed from Xubuntu? My hardware isn't dependent on proprietary, closed source firmware, drivers or binary blobs.10:47
NoviceI want to use Xubuntu but I am slightly confused on whether or not it's a "free as in freedom distribution", I know the FSF doesn't recommend Ubuntu, I am just wondering if this is because the distribution allows you to download closed source proprietary software or if it's because Ubuntu comes with closed source proprietary software.10:49
bekksNovice: Mr. Stallman just doesnt know how to uninstall unwanted lenses in Unity. And Ubuntu is free.10:50
NoviceFree as in gratis or free as in libre?10:50
bekksNovice: Free as in free recipes on how to brew your own free beer. :)10:51
NoviceI'm going to be using Xubuntu, I am slightly confused on whether or not Xubuntu has non-free proprietary software pre-installed and or if it's removable10:51
NoviceI am sorry if I sound like a nut10:51
NoviceI want to support the FSF but their recommended distributions are for elitists.10:52
bekksNovice: Ubuntu has no closed-source applications preinstalled. You can install them if you like (like graphics drivers), and of course you can remove unwanted software.10:52
NoviceI see, so like Debian Ubuntu is free by default?10:52
NoviceIs the only reason Ubuntu isn't recommended due to the ability to install non-free proprietary software, firmware e.t.c?10:53
NoviceSorry if I am not understanding you10:55
NoviceI am new to GNU + Linux and the ideology of gratis, libre open-source software10:56
bekksNovice: Mr. Stallmann does not recommend Ubuntu because he thinks it is too hard to uninstall unwanted software. He is more like the gnome devs: "dont even give the user the chance to use unwanted software..." - and he just forgets the fact that there are users actually wanting software which others dont want.10:57
bluesabreplease see https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html for a summary of the FSF's stances on Ubuntu10:58
bluesabrebut basically, making it easier for users to install Linux on their hardware and have it work correctly seems to be frowned upon10:58
NoviceOkay thankyou, I think I understand.10:59
NoviceI can un-install all non-free software10:59
NoviceMy hardware isn't not dependent on NDISWrapper, binary blobs, or proprietary drivers-firmware, does this mean NDISWrappers, binary blobs, or proprietary drivers-firmware will be installed by default or not? Does Ubuntu only install necessary firmware tailored to my hardware? (Like Debian)11:02
bekksNovice: "Ubuntu has no closed-source applications preinstalled."11:02
bekksNovice: That still applies, even if I already said it.11:03
NoviceI understand, thank you for all your help11:03
NoviceTHank you and goodbye11:03
Novice:-[11:04
NoviceHello?11:06
NoviceSorry I just have one more question11:06
NoviceIs Unity only affected by the Amazon data tracking? If I went and installed Xubuntu would I still face amazon data tracking?11:07
bekksThere is a so called "shopping lense" which displays Amazon shop data matching the search term you entered in the dash. That was what enraged Mr. Stallman. He denied to see the fact, that it a) can be disabled and b) can be uninstalled.11:09
NoviceBut is the "shopping lense" installed in Xubuntu?11:12
cfhowlettNovice no.11:13
bekksNo. It is part of Unity11:13
cfhowlett!flavors|Novice11:13
ubottuNovice: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.11:13
cfhowlettNovice you can remove unity or use one of the other flavors of ubuntu11:14
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NoviceThank you11:14
NoviceI understand11:14
NoviceI just had to make sure11:14
NoviceThank you for putting up with me11:15
kenryanhey folks, I'm trying to upgrade 13.10 to 14.04 and get this error: (update-manager:3499): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:2597:41: Expected a valid selector11:51
kenryanany ideas????11:51
bekksThats a warning only. You are using a theme which isnt available (anymore) most likely.11:57
kenryanhmm, I'm just using the default xubuntu desktop12:00
kenryanI'll try some different themes to see if it helps12:02
Verezahi everyone12:05
VerezaI ve a question: how do I set the WebBrowser variable?12:06
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bosnjakhi all13:42
bosnjakis there some application to show mouse click position for screencasting?13:42
bosnjakCompiz has this, but I don't use it13:42
bosnjakany idea?13:42
holsteinbosnjak: are you talking about cursor visual feedback when the mouse button is clicked? thats not really for screencasting, though, i imagine that is what you are after? maybe just a simple cursor theme that changes when clicked?14:06
bosnjakholstein: yes, i am trying to get this for screencasting. Why do you think this is not a good idea?14:08
holsteinbosnjak: i didnt say it wasnt14:08
holsteinbosnjak: i just think you are likely searching for it for screencasting, and that is beside the point.. you only want visual feedback for when you click the moust button14:09
holsteinmouse*14:09
bosnjakholstein: ah i see, i misunderstood you. A cursor is not a bad idea...14:09
bosnjakholstein: i will check it out14:09
bosnjakholstein: thank you :)14:09
holsteinbosnjak: good luck..14:09
bosnjakholstein: thanx :D14:10
SonikkuAmericaHmm... the volume indicator doesn't seem to be showing up and I have to invoke pavucontrol by hand...14:35
skippezothey y'all14:37
skippezotI'm having some issues with my mouse cursor (touchpad)14:38
skippezotit freezes sometimes and moving my finger over the touchpad only makes the active window scroll up/down14:39
skippezotalso left click changes into right click14:39
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nomicget xubuntu14:47
RFlemingnomic, you're looking to get xubuntu?14:48
nomici have it.14:49
RFlemingok :)  just wondering what 'get xubuntu' was for :)14:49
* nomic been running it since 10.0414:49
nomicis my main OS14:49
nomicis THE os14:49
nomicit is fantastic14:49
RFlemingyou're preaching to the choir friend :)14:49
nomici thought i was somewhere else .. in a few channels14:50
RFlemingahh, yeah... that gets tricky :)14:50
* nomic hungover14:50
* nomic facepalms14:50
RFlemingfun fun fun14:50
RFlemingnothing like airing your dirty laundry to the world eh? :)14:51
RFlemingis invigorating.14:51
nomicim trying to break a system ... an approach14:51
nomicbeen writing a lot of code14:51
nomicpython.14:52
nomici am a computer programmer14:52
nomici used to do it for a living14:52
nomicinternationally14:52
nomici despise the trade14:52
nomici was spat out. maltreated .. the business is controlled by criminals14:53
nomici did 16 jobs serially14:53
nomic16 positions14:53
nomici have seen it all14:53
nomici worked for major institutions14:53
nomiccentrally14:53
nomici am a computer programmer14:53
Picinomic: Do you have a support question for #xubuntu? This is not #xubuntu-offtopic14:53
cfhowlett!ot|nomic  off-topic or PM please so we can use this channel for xubuntu support.  thank you.14:53
ubottunomic  off-topic or PM please so we can use this channel for xubuntu support.  thank you.: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!14:53
nomicthought someone would want to ask me things -- never mind14:54
nomicbbl maybe14:54
nomicno respect14:54
nomicyou had the opportunity to ask14:54
skippezot'm having some issues with my mouse cursor (touchpad)14:55
skippezotit freezes sometimes and moving my finger over the touchpad only makes the active window scroll up/down14:55
skippezotalso left click changes into right click14:55
nomictouch pad software = synaptic14:56
nomicvery configurable14:56
skippezotyour point beeing??14:57
nomic"synclient"14:57
skippezotyou're confusing me14:58
skippezotmy cursor just freezes sometimes14:58
skippezotthink it's only when my system uses a ot of rescources14:59
koegsmaybe if you accidently use two fingers instead of one15:15
koegsthis is right click or scroll on my touchpad15:15
JustanickHello, is there an option to reset the setting of the xfce4-terminal? (colour scheme)15:47
baegleSo, I can't seem to get an update for libssl. Ubuntu is reporting that the update has been released for 13.10, my /apt/sources.list lists all repos as saucy, but I'm still on libssl  1.0.1e. Anyone know what I need to do to update?15:49
bekks!sslbug | baegle15:52
ubottubaegle: A fix for the recent OpenSSL vulnerabilities (2014-0076 & 0160) has been pushed to the Ubuntu repositories, see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ and http://heartbleed.com/ for more information.15:52
fach1490Como puedo agregar efectos al minimizar la ventanas?17:17
xubuntu436How the hell am i supposed to install adobe flash player with Xubuntu?17:17
xubuntu436I've tried EVERYTHING17:17
fach1490Go to softaware center an search for the flashplayer pluing17:18
xubuntu436where is software center>17:18
fach1490sorry for my bad english17:18
GridCubexubuntu436, tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer ?17:18
xubuntu436its ok :D17:18
GridCubexubuntu436, if you tried EVERYTHING how do you dont even know "where is the software center"17:19
fach1490click on menu on the top and you will find it there17:19
xubuntu436what are you even talking about GridCube17:19
GridCubeholly gods17:19
xubuntu436ok, thanks fach :D17:19
fach1490you are welcome :)17:19
GridCube!es | fach149017:19
ubottufach1490: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:19
xubuntu436Ty so much fach! i'm a little bit of a Ubuntnoob xD17:20
fach1490:)17:22
xubuntu436any other software you suggest i should get?17:23
GridCubexubuntu436, just install the xubuntu-restricted-extras17:23
GridCubesearch that in the software center and install that17:23
xubuntu436what are those?17:23
fach1490You can use Gloogle chrome, it has the flash player installed already17:24
GridCubeall the things that make your computer able to play mp3, mp4, flash, avi, etc17:24
fach1490I recomend you Libreoffice17:24
xubuntu436lol thanks fach but i already got the flash player and thank you to GridCube17:24
xubuntu436What is Libreoffice>17:25
GridCubexubuntu436, but not the mp3, mp4, mkv, avi, etc controllers17:25
GridCubexubuntu436, what does the name sounds like it is?17:25
fach1490Libreoffice is Like Microsoft Office but free17:25
xubuntu436nice17:26
xubuntu436ive been kind of looking for a Microsoft Word program17:26
xubuntu436only a free one17:26
GridCubexubuntu comes wiht abiword, it does the basics pretty well, but as fach1490 recommended libreoffice offers larger compatibility17:27
xubuntu436ty, i will definently check that out.17:28
fach1490You can also install Synaptic to control your packages17:30
xubuntu224ummm.... Fach1490 that flash player doesnt work...17:30
xubuntu224youtube still wont play vids17:31
fach1490Did you install the plugin?17:31
xubuntu224yeah17:31
fach1490which browser are you using?17:32
xubuntu224Firefox17:32
fach1490firefox also give you the option to install the falsh player plug, you could see that option on the top of the youtube page.17:33
xubuntu224it actually didnt??...17:34
SonikkuAmericaI came in here mumbling something about the sound indicator not working. The latest updates fixed it. Thanks! :)17:34
xubuntu224What about Shockwave flash? it says it's disabled17:34
xubuntu224What about Shockwave flash? it says it's disabled17:35
fach1490You can use google chrome too it has the flash player plugins already installed17:36
fach1490Type on your telminal "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"17:38
GridCubexubuntu224, did you not installed the restricted extras yet?17:38
GridCubewhy people wont listen17:38
xubuntu224no lol17:39
fach1490This must install the flashplayer plugin17:39
xubuntu224ok i typed that its doing stuff lol17:40
xubuntu224Vrenee@Computer:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer [sudo] password for renee:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Suggested packages:   x-ttcidfont-conf ttf-mscorefonts-installer ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-dejavu   ttf-xfree86-nonfree xfs The following NEW packages will be installed:   flashplugin-installer 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgr17:41
GridCubegod17:41
xubuntu224umm its downloading that and now its done17:41
xubuntu224lol what?17:42
xubuntu224dammit, it still doesnt work17:43
GridCubexubuntu224, you have to wait for the program to download flash and then install it, it takes a time17:44
xubuntu224wait it works, its skippy as hell though17:44
GridCubealso run, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-exxtras17:44
GridCubesudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras17:44
xubuntu224wait it works, its skippy as hell though17:44
GridCube:/17:44
* GridCube gives up for today17:44
xubuntu224yeah.... i saw somebody complain about that on the forums lol17:45
xubuntu224lol17:45
SwankyXubuntuhow do i save items i downloaded off of the internet to my desktop?18:30
SwankyXubuntuhow do i save items i downloaded off of the internet to my desktop?18:31
SwankyXubuntuhow do i save items i downloaded off of the internet to my desktop?18:41
JaySlavenhttp://www.basicserve.com/b.cgi?bk=H8QudzBmm7pWQdWbVz74srps1yPQNsaGtzFL52ronWlLKW01f3A6PbNcTuBxX4AJ3oH4iD21vAGkbpLa7KOcZorSamDyPXJvlf6vwV8uZmaimC4Mk5wmolUdRIKl7IscWg1E3*5kQSxU4WP1L0JZhRieIBIk3C8iyAEYV3olymwg*wsl9p1OeLYeWEWhQ8u4ePmx-Nv6XOvQs7wmogPJQDZurVYARLKBr-Z8lIku18:55
mzrJaySlaven: sup?18:55
Cameron__ok19:24
Cameron__I had to switch my monitor out, after I had loaded a bad program. The Program was a Delux Gem Drop game.  I feel certain that because it was not compatible with Ubuntu it has keep me from accessing my rightful user when I start up.  I do not see my regular desktop most of the screen is dark, I do see my user name in the corner and the top bar but when I am able to find the drop down on the right and click I see nothing19:27
Cameron__Is there a way to remove that program, the Gem Drop Game? from another user?19:29
mzrso, you're saying you downloaded malware of sorts?19:29
mzrI would think so, so long as you know the root password19:29
Cameron__no, when my computer was set up it had the other drives from all my older pc's19:29
Cameron__it had a few games, when I was tooling around I came across it and tried to start it up,.  The problem with the monitor previous to starting it up was just an annoying line down the middle,  When I started the game it went to tunnel vision and I  could not exit the game.19:31
mzrhmm...19:31
mzrso...you're trying to uninstall the game now?19:32
mzrand that's it?19:32
Cameron__II can log in to my normal user but I see nothing but the very top line.19:32
Cameron__well, I am not sure what to do.  I think if I get rid of it completly it would help.19:32
Cameron__but I am not sure.19:32
mzrwell, do you have any files you need?19:33
Cameron__what kind of files, music and documents  yes.19:33
Cameron__I do not wish to do something as dramatic as downloading ubuntu all over again19:34
mzryou're in #xubuntu, do you have xubuntu, or ubuntu? xubuntu doesn't have the dock on the right19:35
mzr*left19:35
Cameron__I do not know the difference between the two.  I have had it on this puter about 3 yeaers ...how do I tell which I have?19:36
mzrwha's on the lefthand side of your screen?19:36
Cameron__at the very top is a left is a drop down application.19:37
mzris it a blue mouse looking logo?19:38
Cameron__it is blue and very small it more looks like a bird19:38
Cameron__might be a mouse19:38
mzrin the drop down does it have anything that says xubuntu?19:39
Cameron__yes there is an icon labled Xubuntu Website and a Contribute to Xubuntu19:41
mzrso yeah it's xu19:42
mzrand from what I understand you're trying to just uninstall that game?19:42
Cameron__good.  at one point when the Game was stuck on and I could not get out of it, I hit several things most of which Control  & Alt and F7 although I did try all the F buttons that way.19:44
Cameron__I hope it is not hitting those buttons that have caused my main user to not function correctly, I believe it is that game and yes I wish it off my computer all together19:45
mzrhave you tried to unistall it via the ubuntu software center?19:45
Cameron__either way.19:45
mzrso you have or you have't? :)19:46
Cameron__no. I have not, it was already on one of my old drives which was integrated into the computer, I just should not have loaded it, that was my mistake. It was not a new download19:46
Cameron__it was from a time when I had windows running19:47
Cameron__so I feel that because it was not compatable with ubuntu it has messed things up.19:47
Cameron__no I have not tried to uninstall it via ubutu software.19:48
Cameron__sorry19:48
mzris it a windows or ubuntu app?19:49
Cameron__it was a windows app game, yes.  I just was not thinking, I have been using ubuntu for a few years and had been looking for something in one of the drives and came across it19:50
Cameron__and without thinking started it up.19:51
holstein!wine19:52
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu19:52
xubuntu551pcchips p27g v30B   need video driver19:52
holsteinCameron__: if you have "messed something up" graphically, logging out or rebooting should sort that out.. you can remove whatever you need from ~/.wine ..if you are not using wine, you can remove that entire directory if you like19:53
holsteinxubuntu551: try the drivers included in the kernel19:53
holsteinxubuntu551: you can try a live CD and see how the support is19:53
xubuntu551xubuntu 13.10 install  ok  but  just dont want  to show on restart19:54
holsteinxubuntu551: so, you get to a live desktop ok? with the 13.10 installer?19:54
holsteinxubuntu551: at this point, i would personlly try a 14.04 live CD and consider istalling that and dealing with problematic graphics drivers there.. you dont want to have to deal with it again in a few weeks19:55
nikola_hello19:57
xubuntu551i install with dvd  xubuntu 13.10  on pcchips  desktop   and install fine  but  dont want  to restart   after final install    blinking19:57
nikola_ I found the irc at google because I need help the last  update  mess my xubuntu19:57
nikola_ I can not close the mozila  because  I do not  see  the x button19:58
nikola_  it is missing in any window19:58
xubuntu551thx holstein19:58
nikola_ the  option windows manager does not open  and my mousepoint has change  to a strange black x19:59
nikola_ and  I have lost  my workspace's  I  am using only one19:59
xubuntu551where xubuntu  14.04 live20:00
nikola_fix it20:02
nikola_ I run the command xfwm4 --replace20:02
holsteinnikola_: i usually test with another user, or the guest account, to see if the issue is in my user's config20:03
holsteinxubuntu551: you can search for it.. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20140410/ for example, but keep in mind, 14.04 is not officially released yet, nor supported here yet20:04
xubuntu551ok thx20:05
xubuntu141hello everyone20:52
xubuntu141im looking for some help with xubuntu ...just installed it on my dell studio 1555 and its overheating...20:53
xubuntu177i need help to clone my Xubuntu stick drive21:15
holsteinxubuntu551: dd copy.. or clonezilla is nice, using simple tools on the backend21:16
xubuntu177i tried dd but messsage says it is not installed on my system21:16
holsteinxubuntu551: what says what?21:17
holsteinxubuntu177: ^21:17
holsteinxubuntu177: try using the full live clonezilla cloning linux distribution21:17
xubuntu177when I type dd lf=/dev/disk2 of=/dev/disk1.  message comes back on the screen saying dd not an installed command21:18
xubuntu177all i want to do is clone my 8gb drive to a new 8gb drive so I can boot and run another identical computer.21:20
xubuntu177I have the new drive mounted and was told to unmount both drives21:21
xubuntu177ok thank you.21:22
mzrhey guys - is there a way to switch to the daily release without reinstalling?21:48
holsteinmzr: you do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and you are up to date, with the updates through today21:56
mzrthank you!21:56
holsteinmzr: not sure ir you are on 13.10, or on 14.04, or wanting to update from 13.10 to 14.04 or what21:56
holsteinmzr: that command will update whatever you are running to current.. 13.10 to current 13.10.. 14.04 to current 14.04..21:57
mzryeah, should've mentioned, hat looking to make the 13-14 jump, won't that just give me the newest 13?21:57
mzryeah...21:57
mzrso, can I switch without a clean install?21:57
holsteinmzr: sure.. i suggest you backup your data either way21:57
mzrdon't have anything that important, it's a vm21:58
holsteinmzr: you update *all* the data you want to keep21:58
holsteinmzr: anything important on any level. .if its not "that" important, a fresh install is much faster21:59
mzrokay, so just grab the iso and mount it?21:59
holsteinmzr: i mean, you'll have to install using an installer.. mounting an iso just mounts an iso22:00
mzrwould a new vm be easier, lol?22:00
holsteinmzr: the live iso allows for installation22:00
mzrholstein, so what should I do?22:01
holsteinmzr: i suggested, and still suggest backing up any data before doing either an upgrade or fresh install22:27
holsteinmzr: 14.04 is not released yet, so not offically supported.. so, if you want to upgrade to it earily, you'll find how to do that easily22:27
mzrholstein - no data, seriously22:27
holsteinmzr: or, just download a daily iso and install22:27
holsteinmzr: then, skip that step, friend22:27
holsteinmzr: it *is* what i say you should do.. you dont have to..22:28
mzrfine, new vm for Xubuntu 14.04 then...22:28
mzrthanks holstein, have a good night22:28
ordonezalexHas anyone here installed Xubuntu 13.10 as a second OS on a machine with UEFI/SecureBoot?22:28
holstein!uefi | ordonezalex22:29
ubottuordonezalex: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:29
mzrI've done it on a usb stick and it still works22:29
mzrwouldn't imagine a partition would be all that harder22:30
skribblezatchawhats up peoples.22:59

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