[00:05] <hazmat> rick_h_, i thought you said quickstart could be used to open the gui.. 
[00:05] <hazmat> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7232937/
[00:19] <hatch> hazmat it will auto open the GUI and log you in once it's done setting up the environment
[00:19] <hatch> were you thinking something like `juju-quickstart --opengui` ?
[03:34] <rick_h_> hazmat: it does with a valid environment it can connect/find the gui it via a juju status. 
[03:34] <rick_h_> hazmat: I thought you said it would not work because you were connecting through other clients or something
[03:34] <hazmat> rick_h_, i've got a valid env, it didn't like it
[03:35] <hazmat> rick_h_, it wouldn't work where i was sshing into a separate machine that had the juju client
[03:35] <hazmat> but from my laptop against an ec2 env it should just work
[03:35] <hazmat> ah.. i think ic the issue there though. not passing env vars through so stripping provider credentials
[03:35] <rick_h_> hazmat: hmm, bug then? it's throwing an error about the env config? 
[03:36] <hazmat> rick_h_, its reformating an underlying juju status error, which is complaining about not finding env keys, because quikstart is shelling out and stripping the env vars
[03:36] <hazmat> which had the keys
[03:36] <hazmat> would be my guess
[03:36] <hazmat> yes a bug
[03:37] <rick_h_> hazmat: k, sorry for misleading you, a bug report would be cool as we'd like to make it work for the use case. 
[03:37] <hazmat> yeah.. another time though.. still working through demo bitgs
[03:37] <rick_h_> hazmat: rgr, understand
[03:37] <rick_h_> new gui release working ok for you?
[03:38] <rick_h_> any better on the relation line issues you hit in demo during call the other day?
[03:51] <hazmat> rick_h_, yeah.. although i came across a bug with subordinate charms in bundles that i accidentally pushed a new gui charm through to the store on (fix works though), i had to fix and release a new version of deployer
[03:51] <hazmat> i suspect there was a change in juju api
[03:51] <hazmat> basicaly just taking juju-deployer dep from 0.3.4 to 0.3.6 ..
[03:51] <hazmat> also pushed to trusty pkg queue
[04:10] <hazmat> rick_h_, is there a config to get the gui to do the local charm icon thing?
[12:03] <rick_h_> hazmat: no, the local charm icon thing should just work
[13:48] <hatch> goood morning all
[13:55] <bac> hey hatch
[13:55] <hatch> anyone come fix your water yet?
[14:08] <hatch> Makyo did you end up getting your camera working? I didn't have any luck
[14:17] <hatch> the new state object supports all of the charmbrowser urls now :) /precise/apache2/:flags:/state/?text=apache2#related-charms 
[14:34] <frankban> brace yourself, long diff/QA is coming :-/
[14:35] <hatch> oh noes!
[14:35]  * hatch hides
[14:37] <frankban> guihelp and especially hatch: I need two reviews+QA for https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/234  . thanks a lot!
[14:37] <hatch> especially me?
[14:37] <hatch> aww shucks
[14:37] <hatch> on it!
[14:38] <hatch> you weren't kidding :D
[14:38] <frankban> heh
[14:40] <frankban> meh, this branch can also win the "longest MP description" contest
[14:41] <hatch> haha I think it does
[14:49] <hatch> jujugui call in 11
[14:49]  * hatch dances around that he beat Makyo  to it
[14:55] <Makyo> Pff
[14:58] <Makyo> jujugui call in 2
[15:12] <hatch> jujugui you should have received an email moving planning poker to 4/14
[15:12] <Makyo> Oh, cool
[15:13] <hatch> Makyo did you get your camera working last night? I didn't have any luck, looks like the new pcie webcams aren't supported in the isight pkg
[15:17] <Makyo> hatch, no luck. That jives with what I was reading, though.
[15:18] <hatch> native kernel detects the hardware but doesn't know what to do with it unfortunately
[15:18] <hatch> a workdaround is to use an external cam though
[15:18] <Makyo> Spent most of last night fiddling around with Qt, trying to remember highschool C++.
[15:19] <hatch> oh man you guys did C++ in HS? We did VB
[15:19] <hatch> I had to learn C++ on my own :-(
[15:19] <Makyo> It was the last year before the entire district moved to Java.
[15:19] <Makyo> C++ and pascal.
[15:20] <hatch> oh cool, the universities here teach Java as the primary
[15:20] <hatch> I suppose it is the best language to teach software concepts
[15:21] <Makyo> Same around here, though I'm really bitter about the CS programs at the university level.  Will tell you about it some other time, otherwise I won't shut up :)
[15:23] <hatch> haha
[15:28] <teslanick> Looking back at my college career, most of my classes were language-agnostic. It didn't matter which language you submitted homework in, as long as it executed (which seems weird in retrospect). But it seems like implementing a FSM in JS is way easier than Java.
[15:28] <teslanick> So in retrospect, I should have done all my homework in JS.
[15:29] <hatch> haha, yeah that woudln't fly here for any class I know of
[15:31] <Makyo> I did take a C class in college, but it was an elective, not part of the CS curriculum.
[15:33] <hatch> I remember enjoying C++, I also had a lot more free time back then lol
[15:33] <hatch> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By84yWo_5i6LYXNsdnhHV2Z2TUU/edit?usp=sharing
[15:34] <hatch> Success with C++...on 3.5" floppys 
[15:34] <teslanick> Yeah, manual memory management is like this wonderful challenge if the problem you're trying to solve is small.
[15:34] <teslanick> It's like a puzzle. Kinda like writing applications on the DOM. ;)
[15:34] <bac> they didn't teach C++ at college when i was there.  now they've hired stroustrup.
[15:35] <hatch> haha 
[15:36] <bac> his first semester there he donated money to have someone design a better logo for the department.
[15:52] <hatch> frankban I've finished your code review but before I QA I just want to finish up my branch...so I can probably start in 20mins
[15:52] <frankban> hatch: no problem and thanks a lot
[16:16] <hatch> jujugui lf a review/qa https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/235
[16:16] <frankban> hatch: on it
[16:16] <hatch> thx
[16:23] <frankban> heh, I like how github shows feature :flags: urls
[16:24] <hatch> hah yeah I thought they were fish at first
[16:24] <hatch> they look like fish :)
[16:25] <frankban> guihelp: do you have a backupify process activity on any of your gmail accounts?
[16:25] <hatch> I have no idea what that is :)
[16:25] <bac> i too do not know
[16:26]  * bac uses gmail as an imap server so doesn't see the new hotness
[16:26] <hatch> ^ me 2
[16:27] <frankban> hatch, bac: if you go to your gmail on the browser, (e.g. the canonical account) and click on the "detail" link, do you see a backupify activity? I have no idea either, but a see the process and it's eating IMAP connections, and I also use an email client\
[16:28] <hatch> detail link?
[16:32] <frankban> hatch: at the bottom of the page
[16:32] <hatch> oh yeah I see that
[16:32] <hatch> lots of them
[16:32] <hatch> interesting
[16:34] <frankban> hatch: yeah the problem is I guess they use IMAP connections and google only allows 15 at the same time, resulting in the email client failures to connetc to imap
[16:34] <hatch> how many connections do you need? lol!
[16:34] <bac> frankban: sorry, i have canonical-hosted email.  didn't move it to gmail
[16:35] <hatch> I use...3?
[16:36] <frankban> hatch: email clients use to make more than one connection, so with the desktop client and the mobile phone it's not so hard to reach that limit
[16:36] <hatch> ohh, what client are you using?
[16:36] <bac> frankban: on my personal gmail i do see backupify.  nine connections going back to 3 days ago
[16:37] <frankban> hatch: foing to /precise/apache2/:flags:/state/?text=apache2#related-charms i see two type errors: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7235645/
[16:37] <frankban> going even
[16:37] <hatch> hmm interesting
[16:37] <hatch> let me try locally
[16:38] <hatch> frankban works here with no problem...
[16:38] <frankban> hatch: are you using "make devel"?
[16:38] <hatch> yeah
[16:39] <hatch> frankban there is no code on 998 in my branch
[16:39] <frankban> hatch: oh, ok, so it must be some cache
[16:40] <frankban> hatch: ok now it works
[16:40] <hatch> great :-)
[16:42] <frankban> hatch: QA ok
[16:58] <frankban> hatch: done
[16:58] <hatch> thanks looking
[17:10] <frankban> time to go, have a nice weekend!
[17:14] <hatch> jujugui can someone else do the QA for frakban's branch? My juju setup is all kinds of busted right now
[17:14] <Makyo> hatch, I'm doing it now.
[17:15] <hatch> Makyo thanks a bunch
[17:15] <hatch> I think I need a new vagrant instance
[18:02] <hatch> Makyo what would you think of a task manager like grunt/gulp but written in Go so it could use goroutines to do things async?
[18:03] <Makyo> That might be kind of neat!
[18:03] <Makyo> Should ask around about it at the Denver meetup
[18:04] <hatch> lucky!
[18:08] <hatch> Makyo one of the biggest shortcomings with Go atm is no Handlebars compiler
[18:08] <hatch> lol
[18:08] <hatch> that might be a cool hack project
[18:08] <Makyo> hatch,  aren't you getting in town in time for that meetup?
[18:08] <hatch> ohh I thought they have one very week
[18:08] <hatch> every*
[18:09] <Makyo> Denver's a bit of a drive for that for me
[18:09] <hatch> then yes, I'll be there for that
[18:09] <hatch> oh is it? 
[18:09] <hatch> oh yeah an hour
[18:09] <Makyo> Yeah
[18:14] <hatch> Makyo +1 to :Shipit: frankban's branch?
[18:14] <Makyo> hatch, Yeah, just looking over tests. I say +1
[18:14] <hatch> cool shipping
[18:53] <hatch> lunching
[19:46] <hatch> back
[19:59] <hatch> oo boy my front yard is a mess
[19:59] <hatch> apparently ripping apart a roof makes a lot of mess
[20:52] <bac> hi jcastro
[20:59] <bac> so i looked at the patch on github that introduced the openssl heartbeat error.  20 files affected. a few hundreds lines of code.  zero tests.  sadness.
[21:04] <hatch> bac ouch
[21:04] <hatch> 0 tests in crypto code?
[21:14] <hatch> brb got to reboot router, it's being.....itself
[22:06] <hatch__> hey Makyo yesterday you mentioned a mid-imp today, still want to do that or are you good?
[22:07] <Makyo> I'm good, sorry. Should've mentioned.  It's turning out to be pretty easy, just rolling through it is slow.
[22:07] <Makyo> Should be done monday mid-day/afternoon
[22:07] <Makyo> With tests.
[22:07] <hatch> cool no problem