[00:00] <phillw> I was dragged, kicking and screaming, from ext3 :)
[00:00] <xnox> phillw: i don't like ext4, imho ext3 was a better balance of features.
[00:00]  * zooko is just about finished making his own lubuntu installer iso with the latest and sizzling-hottest btrfs in kernel 3.14
[00:01] <phillw> zooko: if you ever need help to make the alternate ISO, give me a ping on #phillw
[00:02] <zooko> phillw Thanks!
[00:04] <phillw> xnox:  last I heard btrfs was not ready for boot partition, but flies like shit off a shovel as compared to ext3/4
[00:08] <xnox> phillw: ubuntu can have btrfs as boot partition since 12.04 i believe
[00:08] <xnox> phillw: surbi wrote that.
[00:10] <phillw> xnox: indeed it can, but last time I looked up on btrfs site, they did not advise it for /boot partition... but that is a couple of years ago :)
[00:11] <Unit193> xnox: When can I get ZFS in Ubiquity with a patched kernel? :---D
[00:11] <Unit193> Anyway, this is all a bit offtopic.
[00:12] <phillw> Unit193: sorry... xnox can you pop over to #phillw before the irc police kick us off :)
[00:12] <xnox> Unit193: when it's legal.
[00:12] <Unit193> phillw: Why there?  Why not #lubuntu-offtopic?
[00:12] <Unit193> xnox: Thought it was as long as ZFS in linux itself wasn't shipped.
[00:13] <Unit193> Bleh, dang licenses.
[00:13] <xnox> phillw: advertising irc channels is against ubuntu irc and freenode policy. "#phillw" sounds like a channel advert to me =))))
[00:13] <Unit193> Indeed.
[00:13] <xnox> Unit193: ZFS as a dkms module is fine, but that does not help the installer or having it as root & boot partition.
[00:14] <phillw> Unit193: because I'm chatting to him? xnox when you have primary channel it is not advertising... please do check with freenode :)
[00:14] <Unit193> Right, you don't have to just use dkms, but anywho.
[00:14] <Unit193> phillw: Sure it is.
[00:15]  * phillw bored
[00:15] <phillw> just ban me....
[00:17] <phillw> i left ubuntu council rules because of silly rules.... you are chatting to someone who would not call emergency services if a fire broke out at one of their meetings.
[00:19] <phillw> Unit193: please do me the favour of kick-banning me from #lubuntu and #lubuntu-offtopic to prove your worth as an irc police man.
[00:19] <Unit193> phillw: Please, don't go doing this again.
[00:20] <phillw> Unit193: you started the "do not ask people to #phillw" stuff.... So, finish what you started
[07:01] <MaxFrames> hello
[07:01] <MaxFrames> I am having a series of problems, need help
[07:01] <hateball> !details
[07:01] <MaxFrames> first of all I inadvertedly clicked on the "don't display this message again" option when the network manager notified me that it could not connect to a vpn
[07:02] <MaxFrames> I can't figure out how to reactivate that kind of notification
[07:02] <MaxFrames> the instructions for ubuntu (like using gconf-editor) don't work
[07:03] <MaxFrames> the notification I'm talking about was in the form of - if that is the way it is called - a "notification bubble" on the top of the screen
[07:04] <MaxFrames> on gconf-editor, under "apps-nm-applet", I have nothing
[07:07] <MaxFrames> gsettings reset org.gnome.nm-applet disable-vpn-notifications => also fails with "failed to commit changes to dconf"
[07:07] <MaxFrames> is that elaborated enough? :P
[07:15] <MaxFrames> anyone please?
[08:36] <MaxFrames> well, anyway, lubuntu has literally resurrected this old netbook
[08:36] <MaxFrames> it was unusable with windows xp, most of the time the hdd led was solid lit and the system did not respond
[08:36] <MaxFrames> I think it was a driver problem, it's really fast now, like new
[11:25]  * zooko tinkers with his attempt to make a lubuntu install cd with new btrfs...
[12:11] <chulis> hello ¿how can i decrease the appear time of a pop up? for example, when i recieve a mail or status battery etc?
[12:12] <chulis> excuse for my english im spanish
[12:56] <koell> Unit193: <3
[13:01] <leszek> chulis: I don't think that is possible as the applications itself send the time for a popup to be shown (or at least they can send it)
[13:02] <profus2> hello everybody, is the a special owncloud desktop client for lubuntu?
[13:05] <leszek> profus2: not that I am aware of there exists only the normal desktop client for linux
[13:06] <leszek> profus2: http://software.opensuse.org/download/package?project=isv:ownCloud:desktop&package=owncloud-client
[13:06] <leszek> choosing xUbuntu here and you can add the repo which gets then constant updates
[13:07] <profus2> @lesszek: as I am running lxle I got the client already installed , but whenever i run it there is no gui or icon to proceed with further action
[13:08] <profus2> btw lxle runs on 12.04
[13:08] <profus2> i can see it running in task manager though
[13:34] <SonikkuAmerica> profus2: What are you looking for?
[14:13] <vendre> hello
[16:29] <chulis> hola
[16:29] <chulis> buenas
[16:30] <chulis> sabe alguien alguna manera de hacer mas pequeños los mensajes del sistema por ejemplo el estado de baertia, correo nuevo etc?
[16:30] <wxl> !es | chulis
[16:32] <chulis> anybody knows if is possible to maketh advices of system smaller for exemple new mail, batery sta
[16:32] <chulis> status etc?
[16:33] <wxl> notifications you mean?
[16:35] <wxl> chulis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88274/how-can-i-make-smaller-pop-ups-on-lubuntu
[16:35] <chulis> yes
[16:36] <chulis> are too big and i cant see other thigns
[16:36] <chulis> and stay log time
[16:36] <chulis> long
[16:41] <chulis> wuauu thanks a lot wxl
[16:41] <wxl> np chulis
[16:44] <chulis> wxl: other thing ¿is it possible to add firefox or other program such thumtherbird to the panel (small icon i mean)
[16:45] <wxl> chulis: sure, just right click on the area and you should be able to fix it
[16:45] <chulis> no i cant
[16:45] <chulis> it come come back
[16:46] <comics_idees> in lubuntu now I did update an I think it is a new chrome version
[16:46] <holstein> comics_idees: you "think"? look in a package manager and see.. chrome is not in the defaul repos, so those are not maintained by ubuntu or lubuntu
[16:46] <chulis> i pull the icon to the panel but it come back
[16:47] <wxl> chulis: don't drag it, right click on the panel and there should be an option to edit the launcher settings
[16:47] <chulis> yes but there is only en few programs but i want to put others...
[16:48] <wxl> chulis: then you need to create .desktop files for them
[16:48] <comics_idees> well in my pc chrome has better performance than firefox
[16:48] <holstein> comics_idees: i didnt comment on quality
[16:48] <chulis> they are on the desktop aswell
[16:49] <wxl> chulis: not desktop, .desktop
[16:49] <holstein> comics_idees: i personally use chrome as well, but, if you had installed via the official deb, youget sources added, and any updates you do in the system will keep chrome up to date as well.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" for example
[16:49] <wxl> chulis: basically, this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Windows#How_to_make.2BAC8-add_an_application_to_the_.22start.22_menu.
[16:52] <chulis> but i dont need in the star menu, i want to put then in the panel near the clock for example
[16:53] <wxl> chulis: it needs to be in that menu in order to show up in the list of programs for the launcher on the panel
[16:54] <chulis> but they are in menu-internet
[16:54] <wxl> chulis: then they should show up on the panel list
[16:55] <chulis> in preference panel you mean?
[16:55] <wxl> chulis: yeah like i said, you right click on the launcher area, and then there's an option for adding programs and it should be in that list
[16:57] <wxl> sorry to say i don't have a lubuntu in front of me to give you the specifics but i've been through this many times
[16:59] <chulis> i can find some programs like menu clock cpu monitor etc but not firefox or thunderbird
[16:59] <chulis> preference panel-add complements
[16:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Add components, you mean?
[16:59] <wxl> chulis: i have actually added firefox and thunderbird before :)
[17:00] <chulis> yes in the front panel
[17:00] <holstein> just a shortcut? in the panel? a "click this button and run this application" button?
[17:00] <chulis> yes
[17:01] <holstein> should still look much like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1935461
[17:02] <SonikkuAmerica> .desktop files are your friend too
[17:02] <wxl> i think i see the problem
[17:03] <chulis> thats for me?
[17:03] <wxl> if you're seeing clock and cpu monitor, you must be looking at the "widgets" if you wil for the panel
[17:03] <wxl> on there, there should be one that is launcher or task thingy or something
[17:03] <wxl> again i forgot what it was called
[17:03] <wxl> and hit edit
[17:03] <wxl> THAT"S what you want
[17:06] <chulis> i right on panel then add or (i dont know in english) elements panel
[17:07] <chulis> then mini aplications
[17:07] <chulis> then add
[17:07] <chulis> but only few proigrams there
[17:07] <holstein> chulis: i find it helpful when learning to load up the guest account, or the live CD, or a "Test" user account
[17:08] <holstein> chulis: i remember, back when i used to click on things to run things, i found this feature in the lxpanel simply with trial and error
[17:08] <holstein> chulis: i will fire up 14.04 lubuntu 32bit in a few minutes here and add a launcher and tell you *exactly* how i did it
[17:09] <chulis> ok thanks
[17:09] <hanner> hi
[17:09] <holstein> chulis: i will be doing this by loading the OS, then adding *everything* i find til i get what i want
[17:10] <hanner> by default lubuntu ships with keybindings for media keys, but when using xbmc those keybindings somehwat interrupt the usage of that keys inside xbmc
[17:10] <hanner> is there a way to enable these keybindings just if xbmc is not running?
[17:14] <holstein> hanner: im sure there is a way, but i might ask in the xbmc community and see what folks there do to address this
[17:14] <holstein> lxde with xbmc should be a pretty popular setup
[17:17] <holstein> chulis: i right click the panel, i select "panel settings", then, the "panel applets" tab.. then, along the right side i click "add", then i browse to "application bar launcher" and add one of those if there is not one. then, i highlight the "application bar launcher" from the list, and click the "edit" button, under where "add" was before. i then navigate to whatever i want from the menu and click "add"
[17:18] <holstein> chulis: you can have more than one application bar lanucher, and you may want to do that
[17:18] <holstein> chulis: i suggested, and still suggest loading up the guest account, live CD, or test user and play around with the configutation, if you are uncomfortable with the setup
[17:19] <chulis> ok i try again
[17:20] <holstein> chulis: i added firefox, and i see *all* my applications that are in the panel as options to add there
[17:20] <holstein> chulis: in my default stock setup, the powerbutton is an application lauch bar entry
[17:21] <holstein> chulis: so, you can right click on the power button, and select "application bar launch settings"
[17:22] <holstein> chulis: that would add these launchers there by the power button.. thats why i suggest you may want to add an additional "application bar launch" to another area of the panel
[17:22] <holstein> chulis: i say, this is something that, if you dont have a launcher for firefox added in a few minutes, you are doing it incorrectly
[17:24] <chulis> eureka
[17:25] <chulis> the secret was aplication and then edit
[17:25] <holstein> chulis: ?
[17:25] <holstein> chulis: there is not "secret" friend
[17:25] <holstein> no secrets
[17:26] <holstein> just new ways of doing things.. LXDE is designed to be light, and that has its compromises
[17:26] <chulis> im still very novece
[17:26] <holstein> chulis: this has little to do with "skill level"..
[17:27] <chulis> i have to go out but i still have some questions
[17:27] <holstein> chulis: its just a matter of what you are accustomed to, and being willing to ask, and search
[17:27] <holstein> chulis: you are welcome and encouraged to ask what you like here.. cheers
[17:27] <chulis> i come back again thanks a lot
[17:28] <chulis> regards