[00:03] trinode: something like this to add the entry: "sudo DEVICE=/dev/sda PART_NUMBER=1 sh -c 'efibootmgr -c -d $DEVICE -p $PART_NUMBER -l /EFI/shellx64.efi -L "EDK2 EFI Shell" ' " [00:04] TJ-: is that on the CD? [00:05] (the efi file) [00:05] trinode: No, you'll need to download it [00:06] trinode: " wget http://sourceforge.net/p/edk2/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/edk2/ShellBinPkg/UefiShell/X64/Shell.efi?format=raw " [00:07] trinode: " wget -O shellx64.efi http://sourceforge.net/p/edk2/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/edk2/ShellBinPkg/UefiShell/X64/Shell.efi?format=raw " [00:07] wasn't ed2k a file sharing thing? [00:09] I suspect you're thinking of eDonkey [00:09] that's the one [00:10] EDK == EFI Development Kit [00:11] so drop that into /boot/efi/EFI? [00:11] or in /boot/efi? [00:12] trinode: "/boot/efi/EFI/" if I recall correctly [00:13] trinode: Assuming you've got the EFI system partition already mounted at /boot/efi/ [00:13] yep [00:17] TJ-: that won't start either [00:17] Does the menu item appear? [00:17] it does [00:17] trinode: Is Secure Boot disabled? [00:17] WTF [00:17] it works if i enable CSM [00:18] surely I shouldn't need legacy mode for that shell? [00:18] Hmmm, maybe on that system enabling CSM is a subtle way of saying "disable Secure Boot" [00:18] nah, that's a seperate option [00:18] Indeed not - if the Shell loads, it must be using EFI [00:19] it's sort of a hybrid mode [00:19] you have efi stuff plus bios stuff [00:19] CSM could still be tied to Secure Boot ... there's a lot of buggy EFIs out there [00:19] you have legacy -> uefi + csm -> uefi only [00:20] if you install ubuntu in uefi + csm it installs in BIOS mode [00:20] (grub-pc and all) [00:21] TJ-: one thing the path for the efi file needed to use \\ not / [00:23] trinode: efibootmgr is supposed to translate the / to \ [00:24] But the shell can do that too, at least I seem to recall it handling the translation last time I was using it [00:24] TJ-: I made 2 entries just in case [00:24] one doesn't work [00:25] Anyhow, once in the shell you can use the "help" command to see all the available commands, and "help " [00:26] I used the shell to then manually launch grub's EFI bootloader [00:26] But now you've figured out that CSM toggle issue I suppose grub will also start [00:27] TJ-: grub does start (I knew CSM made grub work already, but thought it was something daft like grub was setting graphics modes with vesa commands or something) [00:27] TJ-: it will break as soon as I run update-grub [00:28] (I've done this many times today [00:28] ) [00:28] Hmmm! something weird about the installation then! [00:29] is there a way to see what update-grub is about to do? [00:29] Have you verified the obvious issues like, the disk uses GPT, the 1st partition is FAT32 256MB-512MB in size, type EF00 ? [00:30] trinode: It re-writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg based on the rules scripts in /etc/grub.d/ [00:30] oh damn [00:31] I've saved the contents of /boot/efi to compare [00:31] that's just not good enough :) [00:33] so, how confident are you that if I copy /boot/grub/grub.cfg and run update-grub and then restore the file I'll still have a bootable system? [00:33] Without seeing the system configuration, and the current grub.cfg, 0% [00:34] hehe [00:34] one more reinstall won't hurt [00:36] hmm, it didn't touch that file [00:36] (md5 not changed) [00:36] How about the time/date stamp? [00:36] contents could well be identical, it doesn't insert a timestamp inside the file [00:37] yeah timestamp changed [00:37] so what else does it do? [00:42] Identify the root cause of the problem. Does the system reach the grub boot menu when you hold Shift down? If not, that infers that the grubx64.efi has a problem [00:44] ubuntu points to shimx64.efi not grub is that correct? [00:45] Yes, that's the signed (Secure Boot) bootloader that then loads grubx64.efi [00:46] TJ-: since doing that _nothing_ boots [00:46] not even the shell [00:47] Something wrong with that systems firmware config by the sound of it? what make/model is it? [00:47] Lenovo L540 [00:49] Is the drive an SSD? [00:49] hmm gnome-screensaver still locking up the screen at interval even with activity.. weird [00:49] TJ-: yes [00:50] you thinking of the brick bug? [00:50] before it was because it was loading twice on unplug/replug due to an outdated app, jupiter, which i removed, now just one process [00:50] guess ill just restart it :/ [00:52] trinode: Yes, have you tried "...go into BIOS setup and disable Intel Rapid Start Technology. This setting is in the Config -> Power menu of BIOS Setup." [00:52] dw1: do you mean like bug 1291365 ? [00:52] bug 1291365 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) "gnome screensaver locks again shortly after unlocking" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291365 [00:53] trism: no, just one lock screen, but its not detecting activity so goes off every 10 mins [00:56] TJ-: it's booting again [00:56] just need to change the boot order, that shell's no good for checking my email [00:57] trinode: You mean the grub/Ubuntu install is working now? [00:58] yep and the shell [00:58] dw1: I'm seeing several bugs like that on gnome-screensaver but they all seem to happen as: unlock the screen, use the computer for a couple minutes, it locks itself again [00:58] but the shell is default, so just changing that now [00:59] trism: mines 10 mins on the regular [01:01] WTF [01:01] grr [01:01] dead again [01:03] ok, turning ON rapid start got it to boot again [01:03] this is insane [01:05] I get one boot everytime I toggle that setting [01:07] trinode: Any firmware updates available for that system? [01:07] I applied the update when I got it [01:07] (3 days ago) [01:08] trinode: Looks like a system issue rather than a bootloader or OS [01:09] trism: yeah actually what you quotes sounds right, if my interval were to be set lower [01:10] trism: oh a few seconds? no... [01:11] trism: maybe itll work itself out. i think restarting the service fixes it [01:11] trism: which does make it seem like it could be related to that bug [01:12] trism: maybe it starts when i go away for a bit and come back, for example [01:14] dw1: yeah I'm not really sure, trying to reproduce it but not having much luck, generally I have blanking disabled (and locking too) and then just manually lock it when I walk away and haven't seen a problem [01:17] where can i adjust the screensaver/blanking settings in 14.04? feel dumb for not finding it [01:18] dw1: System Settings/Brightness and Lock [01:18] only 7 icons in System Settings now, I guess thats normal [01:18] oh no i dont have that [01:18] hmm [01:19] strange, are you running gnome-control-center or unity-control-center? [01:19] dw1: they were split apart in 14.04 [01:19] i upgraded from 13.10 running gnome [01:20] /usr/bin/gnome-control-center.real is running [01:21] dw1: so you're using gnome-shell? or flashback? [01:22] gnome-session-fallback on 13.10, seems to still be there [01:23] no gnome-shell [01:23] dw1: it's there but it is only transitional for flashback now, which is basically just renamed fallback [01:24] dw1: hmm I am seeing the brightness and lock in gnome-control-center on flashback too [01:24] well i logged in after upgrade without a hiccup, so im happy, but yeah apparently missing some icons [01:25] dw1: do you have /usr/share/applications/gnome-screen-panel.desktop ? [01:26] https://www.dropbox.com/s/9bqvck1kersftn7/shot.png [01:26] yep [01:27] dw1: if you run: gnome-control-center screen; does it load up or show the main screen and print an error to the terminal? [01:27] 1 min, some updates running [01:28] seems nothing happens...... [01:28] i should reboot for updates i guess [01:28] it has been a little while since last reboot [01:31] what is the most accurate ocr [01:34] trism: ok yeah, gnome-control-center screen loads the System Settings menu, but with a warning that it couldnt find the panel 'screen' [01:35] TJ-: thanks for all your help [01:36] I've made a video showing it only boots after you change a setting in the bios (UEFI) screen and fails to boo if not [01:36] trinode: you're welcome [01:36] dw1: hey I notice that if I remove unity-control-center mine gnome-control-center looks almost like yours [01:36] posting it on the lenovo forums when it's uploaded [01:36] dw1: do you have unity-control-center installed? it would seem like you shouldn't need it if not using unity but... [01:36] trism: i do have that package [01:39] trism: there were a few errors on upgrade i suppose [01:39] trism: i didnt write em all down tho :) [01:40] trism: they scrolled by and out of the way rather fast [01:43] dw1: what is: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP; [01:43] trism: it says Unity [01:45] dw1: mine too which is weird but, if you try: XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME gnome-control-center; do you see more icons? [01:46] trism: yep a lot more :) [01:47] trism: think you nailed it [01:47] trism: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v7d7johtpdgze1/shot2.png [01:50] dw1: ahh this is why flashback as Unity as the session: bug 1224217 [01:50] bug 1224217 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Switch Flashback sessions to XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1224217 [01:50] trism: why do your icons show even with Unity as the desktop? :-/ [01:51] trism: i had to ask. :P [01:51] dw1: yeah, are you sure unity-control-panel is installed? I only get what you're seeing when I remove it but keep the Unity session var [01:52] trism: oh no im not sure. i have unity-control-center, not panel [01:52] trism: E: Unable to locate package unity-control-panel [01:53] dw1: sorry that was my mistake I meant unity-control-center [01:54] trism: yep.. rc unity-control-center 14.04.3+14.04.20140328-0ubuntu1 [01:54] dw1: and strange, then I'm really not sure why it isn't showing up by default [01:54] dw1: oh rc means uninstalled [01:54] trism: installing :) [01:54] dw1: removed but not purged [01:54] trism: odd, i didnt remove it. good to know that [01:56] trism: and resetting the var back to Unity the icons are there. good [01:56] trism: thanks [01:57] trism: now i might lower my screen timings to try to get a bead on the screensaver issue, if it still exists [02:16] anyone here use koding.com for a vm [02:18] basketball: ask in a proper support channel for that product [02:18] yea i know my bad i reasked in #vbox [05:40] I want to get back my original kernel on ubuntu 14.04.. earlier on 13.10 I switched it to general due to wi-fi issue [05:40] *generic [05:50] baloo seems broken, and I would be really impressed if it is ready to go when 14.04 is released. [05:50] I want to get back my original kernel on ubuntu 14.04.. earlier on 13.10 I switched it to generic due to wi-fi issue [05:50] pls help [05:51] vkkhurava: did you try the mainline kernels? [05:51] vkkhurava: you can d/load the one you need and install it via dpkg. [05:51] i dont know what is mainline kernels [05:51] vkkhurava: Or, what is the problem with your wifi? Maybe somebody has fixed that? [05:52] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [05:52] ^ that is mainline. Youll need to d/load 3 or 4 files for your architecture. [05:52] earlier on 13.04 & 13.10 there was issue with wifi ... but later resolved replacing kernel with Generic [05:53] I don't know what that means 'replacing kernel with Generic', generic is the default kernel that comes with ubuntu. [05:54] vkkhurava: maybe you installed backports? [05:54] sorry but as per my understanding ubuntu provide kernel as 3.X.X.X but i have 3.13.0-20-generic [05:55] I am new with linux so I dont know abut backports [05:56] Do you know which kernel was working for you? [05:56] yes its 3.13.0-20-generic [05:56] and which one do you have now? [05:57] the same one [06:20] Hi, I am using mainline kernel and I want to switch back with original built -in kernel on ubuntu 14.04, pls suggest or help [06:20] could someone test this command: [06:20] echo | patch -pq [06:21] ...because it segfaults for me [06:21] actually, just: patch -pq [06:21] is enough, it will segfault before starting to read from stdin [06:22] ...and patch command throwing segfault for invalid command line parameters... WTF? [06:22] same [06:23] so not just me, good [06:23] (means, my system is not botched somehow) [06:23] perhaps.... >:) [06:24] hopefully it is just patch, and not libc or something [06:25] (doesn't happen on Fedora19, for example, don't have non-beta Ubuntu handy to test) [06:25] seems p needs an integer [06:26] but yeah, not very graceful [06:26] i have another system but not gonna boot it just for that. :p [06:27] I am using mainline kernel and I want to switch back with original built -in kernel on ubuntu 14.04, pls suggest [06:27] vkkhurava: suggestion: just install the kernel package? [06:28] apt-get install linux-image [06:28] Ok so that will replace my mainline kernel ? [06:29] it will add a new kernel. if you've messed with grub, you may need to do some manual configuration under /etc/default/grub and/or /etc/grub.d [06:30] it shouldn't replace your current kernel. probalbly [06:30] (and you shouldn't just "replace" it, install new one and verify it works and only then remove old kernels, their modules etc [06:31] vkkhurava: btw, this might not be the best channel, since your question has nothing to do with Ubuntu 14.04 specifically, I think? [06:31] then wht is the use of installing new or adding new kernel... if its also installing generic one [06:32] vkkhurava: some other #ubuntu... channle might be better [06:32] hyde: earlier I was on another ubuntu channel and they suggeted for this one [06:32] yes #ubuntu referred me to here [06:33] coz I am running on 14.04 [06:33] hyde : so again i m ground zero installing or adding new kernel will also be mainline, right ? [06:34] ah... well, the procedure should be same, I don't think 14.04 changes anything for your issue. (note, not ubuntu dev, not even regular on this channel, so anything I say might be horribly misguided) [06:35] is there any link from where I can download original ubuntu kernel and that will replace my generic or mainline using dpkg [06:36] rather then going for a fresh 14.04 OS installation [06:36] vkkhurava: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/kernel/ maybe [06:37] vkkhurava: apt-cache search linux-image [06:38] vkkhurava: the 'original' or 'standard' is 3.13.0-23-generic [06:39] apt-cache search linux-image [06:39] alsa-base - ALSA driver configuration files [06:39] linux-image-3.13.0-23-generic - Linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP [06:39] linux-image-3.13.0-23-lowlatency - Linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP [06:39] linux-image-extra-3.13.0-23-generic - Linux kernel extra modules for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP [06:39] linux-image-extra-virtual - Transitional package. [06:39] linux-image-generic - Generic Linux kernel image [06:39] linux-image-generic-lts-quantal - Generic Linux kernel image [06:39] linux-image-generic-lts-raring - Generic Linux kernel image [06:39] linux-image-generic-lts-saucy - Generic Linux kernel image [06:39] linux-image-generic-lts-trusty - Generic Linux kernel image [06:39] vkkhurava: please don't do that [06:39] linux-image-lowlatency - lowlatency Linux kernel image [06:39] linux-image-server - Transitional package. [06:39] linux-image-virtual - This package will always depend on the latest minimal generic kernel image. [06:39] linux-virtual - Minimal Generic Linux kernel and headers [06:39] if you have more than like 2-3 lines, use pastebin [06:39] linux-image-generic-pae - Transitional package [06:39] linux-image-lowlatency-pae - Transitional package [06:39] linux-image-3.4.0-3-goldfish - Linux kernel image for version 3.4.0 on Android touch emulation [06:39] linux-image-goldfish - Linux kernel image for the goldfish kernel. [06:39] and paste the link to pastebin [06:39] linux-image-extra-3.13.0-20-generic - Linux kernel extra modules for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP [06:39] linux-image-3.12.0-031200-generic - Linux kernel image for version 3.12.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP [06:39] linux-image-3.13.0-20-generic - Linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP [06:39] sorry but i dint know where is this pastbin [06:40] paste.ubuntu.com [06:40] i am using standalone version of xchat [06:40] there are a bunch of services. "original" may have been pastebin.com or .org, hence the name (speculating, not sure of history) [06:40] dwl : OK so ubuntu 14.04 comes with generic only as of now, is it ? [06:40] it's a web service, use it with your browser [06:41] (some irce clients have support, and suggest using pastebin when you try to paste too large snippet, and do it all automatically for you, but that's just convenience) [06:41] vkkhurava: maybe you should actually address the problem, and not your proposed solution to the problem. [06:43] vkkhurava: dont know, but thats what i got on standard system [06:44] hmmm OK then... I hv no issue but earlier when I go to ubuntu for support they said u r using mainline or generic kernel which is out of suppirt [06:44] *support [06:44] using the 14.04 kernel on 13.10? [06:45] 13.10 [06:45] he used custom kernel in 13.10.. wouldnt it be updated automatically on upgrade? [06:45] you are not meant to mix kernel versions betwen distros [06:45] once he leaves package management [06:46] vkkhurava: type uname-a what kernel you got [06:46] dw1: the default kernel still gets upgraded, but grub will select the highest installed version by default. [06:46] vkkhurava: uname -a in terminal [06:46] Linux VKKHPG6 3.13.0-20-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 28 09:56:33 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [06:47] i guess it will update to 3.13.0-23-generic when you run software updater [06:47] that looks normal, not custom [06:47] shouldn't update [06:47] oh, thats what i got from auto-updates [06:47] so it won't have anywhere to update from [06:47] that kernel did not come from the right repo [06:48] k, nevermind [06:48] hmmm OK but on 13.10 I replaced standard kernel with generic one.. using below link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/393445/wifi-keeps-disconnecting-on-13-10 [06:48] vkkhurava: they are all generic. [06:49] vkkhurava: the number is what is important. eg 3.10 vs 3.13 which you have installed. [06:50] Odinsbane : then what you are suggesting me to do.. should i live with it or do i need to replace them with standard one.... this is my only question [06:50] vkkhurava: if you don't have any problems, then leave it. [06:51] Odinsbane : as of now I dont hv but I dont want to hear that u r using generic and we are not supporting it [06:51] thats it :-) [06:51] vkkhurava: you've used a kernal that is not meant for your distro - no-one will support that [06:51] vkkhurava: however if you need it to fix a bug and it's working - then you should be fine [06:51] vkkhurava: grub should give you the option to boot to any of the installed kernels on your system. [06:51] * hyde is a bit confused what people mean when they say "mainline", "standard", "generic", "custom" etc when talking about kernels above, but if it's clear to everybody else then no problem [06:52] all my kernel packages are generic and not custom at all [06:52] hyde: it's just wording, some people describe it differnt [06:52] ikonia : but i want standard one not generic [06:52] vkkhurava: the standard one is -generic [06:53] then why will no one will support that [06:53] hyde: mainline compiles kernels for ubuntu. [06:53] vkkhurava: because that kernel is not meant for your distro [06:54] ikonia : can u pls suggest a way to get same version which meant for my distro [06:54] vkkhurava: you can't [06:54] (not from supported methods) [06:55] vkkhurava: what sort of support do you want? [06:55] ikonia : that mean I hv to re-format my machine [06:55] no, who said that ?? [06:55] as u r saying I cant get same version [06:55] I'm saying you have installed a kernel from an unsupported method/repo [06:56] you are still welcome to use it [06:56] vkkhurava: odds are you have the normal kernel installed on your system. You can boot with it anytime you like. [06:56] or revert to the original kernel [06:56] odinsbane: "mainline compiles" == "mainline does compiling"? what? or did I misunderstand? If not, then what/who is "mainline" here? [06:56] and how can i revert that [06:56] hyde: people in the ubuntu project who maintain the unpatched mainline build of the kernel for benchmark/baseline testing [06:56] cant he just install this http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/linux-image-3.13.0-23-generic/download [06:57] ikonia: ok, thanks, good to know [06:57] dw1: he's not using trusty [06:57] ikonia: yeah he upgraded [06:57] vkkhurava: right [06:57] no, he's still on 13.10 [06:57] just dumped the mainline kernel on it [06:57] unless I've missunderstood [06:57] he got sent to this channel wrongly it appears [06:58] no I m on 14.04 [06:58] he had custom 13.10 and upgraded [06:58] so he's fine [06:58] just needs to run software updater right [06:58] oh. you've upgraded fully [06:58] that's perfect then, remove the PPA for the mainline kernel, boot from the trusty default kernel and run the update process [06:59] ikonia: I don't think he added the ppa, from the link he just downloaded the .deb's and installed them. [06:59] ok, then boot from trusty kernel, remove deb installed mainline kernel, run update process [06:59] yes exactly [07:00] plus from the uname -a he has booted from the trusty kernel, but it is a little bit outdated. [07:00] on upgrade all my non-standard ppas were disabled automatically [07:00] if he removes any reference to the mainline kernel, and update should be fine [07:00] maybe its the same for kernels [07:00] dw1: it doesn't remove the packages [07:00] which option I need to select from grub for booting in trusty kernel [07:01] vkkhurava: you are in the trusty kernel. [07:01] OK [07:01] vkkhurava: the mainline ones use a slightly different numbering scheme. [07:02] then should i remove those kernels which I installed for wifi issue using that link [07:02] vkkhurava: it will free up about 200megs, but it isn't nescessary. [07:02] hmmm ok... [07:02] did 13.10 kernels have the -generic suffix? if not, then that would explain why they said they dont support it in #ubuntu [07:03] but they will support it there in 6 days [07:03] vkkhurava: also, there are a couple kernel packages, if you remove the wrong one you might have some trouble getting back. [07:04] OK then I am not going to mess up with the things until i face any problem... thx for support [07:06] btw, if someone wants to take a look at the patch crash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7233796/ [07:06] is that gl_.... from glib? since when has patch used glib? [07:07] vkkhurava: #ubuntu will be reluctant to help you because 14.04 is not released, not because of your kernel. [07:07] isn't it a program which predates glib by ages? [07:08] OK [07:08] hyde: there is an error about the 'q' are your cmd line arguments correct. [07:09] odinsbane: point is, it *throws segfault* [07:09] for invalid command line argument [07:10] odinsbane: at least on fedora19 it does not, I bet also on sufficiently older ubuntus it does not [07:10] so I'm curious, why has it been broken? [07:10] -p = crash [07:10] s/been/become/ [07:10] My only linux here is f20, and it is fine also. [07:10] hyde: you have filed a bug? [07:11] nope, just noticed [07:11] probably best to do that then :) [07:11] rww: can you give me the right link? [07:12] i believe you run "ubuntu-bug patch" [07:12] so that it can collect package version and such [07:13] that gives no way to actually tell what the problem is [07:13] it'll open a web browser for you to type that [07:20] bug report done [07:20] ...and I hope some serious look is taken into whatever has been done to patch [07:20] I mean, also other code introduced when this bug was introduced [07:21] ...especially in this age of NSA paranoia [07:21] because, I could see how a crafted bug in patch could be used to introduce unintended changes [07:22] (and no, i don't actually *believe* anything like that is going on, but I don't like believeing, I like knowing) [07:24] Good morning [07:28] hyde: pretty sure patch is rarely used by most ubuntu users so not a great way to exploit systems but i may be wrong [07:33] dw1: it's not a generic "everybody would be affected" risk, but it could maybe be used for targeted attacks. Quite often patch commands are copy-pasted from some howto's, for example, by people who don't really understand the command. [07:34] i only have a 12.10 system and it doesn't segfault, so it happened in some version after that http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=patch [07:35] it's quite hypothetical, I agree, even if it'd be possible to exploit [07:35] only have an alternate 12.10 system* [07:38] guess i should upgrade that badboy soon :) [07:39] I'm quite proud of a laptop at home, which originally god installed with 9.04, is now at 12.04, and is soon to be upgraded to 14.04 [07:39] "soon" as in probably at 14.04.1 === fantie is now known as FREAKJAM [07:40] nice [07:40] it's also got dual boot Windows Vista, which is also working flawlessly ;) [07:41] (for a definition of "flawless" which allows Windows installation to be such) [07:41] any oxymoron.. :P [07:41] an* === om26er is now known as om26er|lunch === om26er|lunch is now known as om26er [10:09] is there such a thing as MOTUs anymore? [10:14] yes, there are still some MOTUs there [10:41] 'Morning folks [10:41] mornin' BluesKaj [10:41] hi BluesKaj [10:42] Hi husnainlatif, bekks [10:43] big upgrade this morning [10:56] one week to the big day uh? === mpmc[BNC4FREE] is now known as mpmc === mpmc is now known as mpmc[BNC4FREE] [12:15] Koma, yeah, next thursday === mpmc[BNC4FREE] is now known as mpmc [12:31] how can I move Minimize/Maximize/Close buttons back to the right? [12:33] jjavaholic, use a different theme [12:34] using the gnome-tweak-tool to do so? [12:34] No need for the gnome-tweak-tool [12:35] afaik, but if you're using unity then, I have no clue. [12:37] I'm using unity [12:38] * BluesKaj forgets which chat he's in sometimes...old age is catching up to me :) === SuperLag_ is now known as SuperLag === mpmc is now known as mpmc[BNC4FREE] [16:18] Are things still on schedule for a final release on the 17th for trusty? Just curious... [16:18] Yes. [16:24] bekks: thanks. [17:02] how to enable enchanced desktop zoom in ubuntu 14.04? it seems does not work anymore. [17:04] it does not work with two monitors [17:04] but it works single monitor [17:05] i would probably make sure when i was using 2 monitors, i was using the same driver as before, and that the driver is 3d capable [17:06] I am using nvidia proprietary driver [17:06]