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daftykinsdiddledan: you know you wanna00:02
diddledanI wanna zigga zig aah00:03
dennydiddledan: huh.  No, 64-bit here too.  Well, thanks for that bewildering feedback.  :)00:06
dennyI could try purging it and reinstalling it I guess00:06
diddledandenny: you could also try adding a new user account to your system and seeing if a clean profile works or not00:15
diddledanlol @ https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=askew00:18
daftykinsdenny: maybe just reset rhythmbox?00:19
mappssheesh00:33
mappsmy sky adsl is down AGAIN00:33
mappshaving to tether to my phone;/00:33
diddledanmapps: looks like you went down at about 01:1000:37
mappssky is rubbish00:38
mappsbasically imo the issue is contention?00:38
mappsEVERYONE is on sky..walk around and scan for wireless and its all SKYZYX00:38
mappsBECAUSE its so damn cheap00:38
daftykinsyeah very little room for quality of service i'd imagine00:39
mappsyep00:40
mappshonestly everywhere its like SKY SKY SKY..and i get it because people just get phone/tv/net for like 2quid00:40
mappsso its rubbish00:40
dennyI just got sold from Be to Sky  :(  :(  :(00:42
dennyso far; slower, less stable, and no reverse DNS00:42
diddledandiddledan has userhost ~Daniel@5751aa0a.skybroadband.com <-- this00:42
diddledan:-p00:42
diddledanI've not had any issue00:42
dennyas in, I can't specify my reverse DNS00:43
dennyon be it was home.denny.me00:43
denny(denny.me being my domain, not just some random gibberish I made up)  :)00:43
mappsheh00:43
diddledanyes, I know what you mean. the be people are apparently encouraging sky to open up features like that00:43
mappshey denny same well i was with o2..which was powered by be00:44
mappssucks hey00:44
* denny nods00:44
mappsim not a spurs supporter after monday i think;p00:46
mappswont be moving there anytime soon but will go to a few games when possible:)00:46
diddledanwhy mudnay?00:46
mappswent to spurs v sunderland ..0-1 down spurs come back and win 5-1!! and id had £250 at 1.63 for them to win and 30 quid at any unqouted score at 7/1 on bf:D00:47
diddledanlol00:48
mappspaid for the whole thing00:48
mappsreally enjoyed it and tottenham wasnt as bad as i thought itd be00:49
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mappso its back01:19
mappglad i could tether dunno what id do if my net went down all day:D01:19
diddledanhttp://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-compute-module-new-product/01:22
daftykinshow many will be plugged into laptops and fried? :>01:29
diddledanat least 50%01:30
daftykinsg'night guys :>01:30
diddledannn01:30
mappearly for you daftykins01:46
mappnn01:46
diddledanhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/04/wild-heart-were-intelligence-agencies-using-heartbleed-november-201302:18
mappwonder if i should geta rasperry pi02:19
neuro01:38 <mapps> sky is rubbish03:34
neurospeak for yourself :)03:34
mapphey05:33
mappsup05:33
mappa week away from the casinos and05:35
mapp'oh hey mark you alright hows it going where you been'05:35
mappheh05:35
MooDoohello all05:41
mapphey MooDoo05:42
bashrc_morning06:41
MartijnVdShello06:42
bashrc_so when is the 14.04 launch day?06:50
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mappsmorning bashrc06:51
ali123417th06:51
MooDoohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule06:51
MooDoofinal freeze was yesterday06:52
bashrcok.  I'll probably upgrade both home and work laptops when it's released06:52
MartijnVdSaccording to launchpad, the "double screensaver" bug has FINALLY been fixed06:54
bashrcI hope the Z580 boot bug has been fixed.  That has been an annoyance.06:55
MartijnVdSZ580? Is that a "newer" Z80 (like the 80386 was a "better" 8086 ;)06:57
bashrcno, Lenovo Z580 laptop.  Sometimes it doesn't boot.  Something related to the power management system.07:13
diploMorning all07:36
MooDoomorning diplo07:36
SuperMattmorning heartbleeders07:37
MooDooSuperMatt: storm in a teacup ;)07:41
SuperMattbloody multi-universe apocalypse in a teacup07:43
MooDoolol07:44
bashrcit was a pretty bug bug though07:44
bashrc*big07:45
SuperMatta pretty big bug which only required a one line fix >.<07:45
SuperMattbut at least there will be people *pouring* over the openssl code to make sure this doesn't happen again07:46
bashrcmillions of certificates revoked.  Lots of embedded systems out there may not be upgradable07:46
MooDooSuperMatt: the coder submitted the code for the issue 1 hour before midnight on new years eve, even then reviewer missed it07:46
SuperMatt>.<07:47
bashrcI've probably made thousands of coding mistakes, and even in a good team things can still get past review08:16
bashrcso I don't think heartbleed was necessarily a conspiracy unless more information comes to light08:17
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:28
MooDoohello brobostigon08:28
brobostigonmorning MooDoo08:29
arsenis there a way i can avoid MITM attacks on my ssh sessions?08:47
arsenand SSL traffic.08:47
SuperMattin reality, no.08:47
SuperMattif the server you have been connected to has in any way been compromised and had their keys taken, you can't prevent MITM08:48
directhexphysical proximity to the target server! you'll see all men in the middle!08:48
arsen:)08:48
arsenive learnt i may be about to be monitored by a palo alto device, and i understand it does SSL/SSH decryption - presumably via MITM, and i have a problem with my privacy being invaded :o08:49
SuperMattwithout the keys from the other side, I don't know how they would decrypt08:50
SuperMattthey may do deep packet inspection to try to guess what's going on though08:50
arsenhttps://www.paloaltonetworks.com/products/features/decryption.html08:50
diddledanarsen: what makes you think someone will be monitoring you with such a device?08:51
diddledanarsen: those devices are for corporates who have the ability to use GPOs to make your computer trust the certificate the device uses08:51
arsendiddledan  - overheard / noticed it being installed for testing a while back :)08:52
diddledanarsen: for a computer that isn't part of an Active Directory corporate domain there is nothing they can do without you being warned08:52
arseninteresting. i think during testing i was made aware that someone saw me chatting in #ubuntu-uk , for example08:53
arsennot that i'm doing anything wrong, but if they can do SSL decrypt, i'll suddenly be more concerned about banking / private sites / emails etc.08:53
diddledanthey can't without your consent. consent is implicit when you're using a business pc08:54
arsenand i sit on a self built nix box, not part of the AD domain, though that's unique to a few people.08:54
arsenyeah i suspect that'd be their arguement08:55
diddledanif you don't have someone installing certificates behind your back and your pc isn't using GPOs then they have no way of decrypting your traffic08:55
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy Barbershop Quartet Day! :-D09:09
diddledanmorning JamesTait09:16
JamesTaitdiddledan, o/09:17
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:31
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jussithe hearbleed explanation on xkcd is nice :D09:50
bigcalmYup09:51
bigcalmAlso explains how to exploit it09:52
bigcalmOr at least gives me an idea how one does09:52
bigcalmAnybody recognise names on this list? https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/lamp-and-beyond-ii-tickets-1106922133910:02
MooDoonot me10:04
jussinor I.10:04
philwyettI know Mr Spriggs by the emails he sends me. He is part of UK LUGs http://lugs.org.uk :-)10:06
jussianybody want to play "Caption this"?  http://is.gd/Wqng8J10:06
philwyettSorry lug.org.uk10:07
popeyphilwyett: wassup?10:07
philwyettjussi: Come on lads. Torres's scoring ability must be here somewhere!10:08
bigcalmYeah, I've heard of Jon Spriggs. Not sure I've met him though10:08
MartijnVdSjussi: "Are you sure that's East?"10:08
philwyettpopey: Just someone asking if we recognised anyone from a list of attendees for a LAMP event.10:08
philwyettMorning popey by the way.10:09
jussiMartijnVdS: and philwyett - both are very good :D10:09
andrewebdevWhat's the app called again that basically works as a chrome wrapper around a webapp in ubuntu?10:36
andrewebdevThere are a number of web-apps I'd like to open in their own windows10:37
andrewebdevah found it, need to prefix unity-webapps10:44
jussiso who likes fast booting linux? :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXYpq_7nicM - just a little something the lads at work have been doing.10:54
selinuxiumMorning all o/10:56
jussimorning selinuxium10:56
jussi(afternoon here and only just still morning there) :P10:56
selinuxiumyup. :) Where are you jussi ?10:57
jussiselinuxium: Finland10:57
selinuxiumNeat :)10:57
jussidon't ask why I hang out in the UK channel... :P10:57
selinuxiumWasn't going to... :)10:57
MooDooyou're just a sucker for punishement and you know i'll be around at atupid o'clock in the morning for you to bug ;)10:58
diddledanjussi: more to the point would be "why would you NOT want to hang out in the UK channel?!"10:58
diddledanI mean, the UK channel is where all the cool kids hang out10:59
MooDoodiddledan: I'm old, therefore not cool well that's what my kids say10:59
MooDoolo10:59
selinuxiumYay! I am a cool kid again!11:00
jussi:D11:00
jussiah dear. I just almost cracked up laughing on a business call... I shouldnt click unknown links while on calls... http://is.gd/EyVa7c11:07
bigcalmhttp://catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcats.tumblr.com/post/7071408642111:10
MartijnVdSbigcalm: bonsai kitten?11:11
directhexhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNhycX0XCJ011:18
jussidirecthex: epic!11:23
popeyomg, is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAjM1pRIFP4 where "Hello, yes this is dog" comes from?11:29
nigelbnah, that's from http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/yes-this-is-dog11:32
shaunough, we have a manager at work who always interupts with "this is robert" on conf calls.  every single time, "this is dog" appears in my head11:34
diddledanthis is dan, shauno , he's from corporate stock11:35
shaunooh it's worse than that.  he's german11:36
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYu_bGbZiiQ11:36
diddledandid everyone just up-and-die on me?12:02
shaunoyes12:02
MooDooyes12:02
MartijnVdSyup12:03
diddledandamn12:03
MartijnVdS😵12:04
jussic..ca...call 112... :P12:18
diddledan112 is 999 in britain :-p12:23
diddledanalthough 112 should still work but nobody in britain knows it exists apart from me :-)12:23
MartijnVdSdiddledan: 112 works in all of Europe, and mobile phone networks map it ;)12:24
diddledandamned "tories" want to hold a referendum over whether britain should leave europe12:26
diddledanthey think by promising that they'll get elected next time around12:26
diddledanthey're trying to get the xenophobic/racist vote12:26
diddledanit surprises me there isn't an effort underway to move britain to just-off the coast of New York by means of a large engine12:29
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jussiits sad that winning is so important that you need to cater to the racist/xenophobic vote12:40
dwatkinsI don't understand how they can give these viewpoints so much of their time, no-one I know thinks this way.12:44
dwatkinsMind you, I live in Scotland, and we might well become part of Scandinavia sometime soon.12:45
* dwatkins wonders idly what the ISO 3166 2-letter code for Scotland will be12:45
SuperMatta journo friend of mine did some polls about leaving europe. The answers were either "yes!" in that pigheaded "Britain for the British" kind of way, or "I really don't have enough information"12:46
SuperMattand even then, the vast majority fell in to the latter camp12:47
SuperMattso having a referrendum is pointless12:47
dwatkinsyeah, because the former camp might win because the rest of us might not vote12:49
SuperMattI also feel that scotland should be part of the UK. I think we're all better off if we can work together12:49
dwatkinsI'm concerned the scottish referrendum might turn out like this.12:50
SuperMattit's the building of artificial barriers which prevents progress12:50
dwatkinsindeed, SuperMatt - my main question about Scottish independance is "Why?"12:50
SuperMattI just don't know12:50
dwatkinsI suspect it will result in a country with little income.12:52
SuperMattI imagine if you go to glasgow or edinburgh, most won't want to leave, my money's on most of the "yes" voters coming from the rural towns and villages who don't quite understand how economies work and just want their own piece of land to be exactly how they want it12:52
dwatkinsindeed12:52
MartijnVdSdwatkins: they can sell moss.12:53
MartijnVdSdwatkins: highland moss.12:53
MartijnVdSdwatkins: and some peat.12:53
MartijnVdSand a few bottles of drink12:53
SuperMattI wonder how scotland will cope when it comes to paying its welfare bill12:53
dwatkinswe have it pretty good right now with free prescriptions, free eye tests and no student fees.12:54
dwatkinsI'd be very surprised if that could continue after independence.12:54
SuperMattsure sure, but how is that being paid for?12:54
dwatkinsI imagine it's a case of apportioning our taxes differently.12:59
shaunofor iso3166-2, since EC & SC are already taken, I'd propose 'JK'.  it's unused, and dot-jock would rock13:00
dwatkinsnice13:01
shaunoI'm kinda tied on the independence thing.  I think we should go more-EU and make borders less and less relevant.13:04
dwatkinsthe trouble is that sentiment seems to be less prevelent south of the "border"13:06
dwatkinsI gather there's a clear difference in the way Scotland votes compared to England, too.13:06
shaunowell there's your irony, I'm english :)13:06
dwatkinsme too, I just happen to live in Edinburgh13:07
dwatkinsI grew up in Berkshire.13:07
shaunoI'm from oxord, but I grew up near glasgow13:07
shaunoer, *oxford13:07
SuperMattI think we should all just be a massive part of europe13:07
SuperMattbut there we go13:07
dwatkinswell quite, SuperMatt13:08
shaunowe are a massive part of europe.  we're just in denial about it13:08
dwatkinsalthough I'm not sure "The United States of Europe" would be a popular idea ;)13:08
SuperMattwe just call outselves europe!13:12
SuperMattOr, tbh, Outer London13:12
SuperMattbecause London is all that matters13:12
SuperMattor maybe "London wastes"13:13
SuperMattyes, that's what we shall call Europe13:13
dwatkinsnot-London13:13
shaunoI found myself recently wondering if the EU is closer to the US's initial design than the US is13:13
dwatkinsthat wouldn't surprise me13:14
shaunoas far as state law vs federal law goes, at least.  the fed was only supposed to be involved with interstate commerce, foreign policy, etc.  and eventually dug its fingers into everything else13:15
dwatkins...and then the rest of the world13:15
shaunoso we're moving towards the design they're moving away from13:16
dwatkinswell, Europe is...13:17
shaunoI'll stick with 'we' because I don't live in the UK anymore :)13:18
dwatkinsfair enough13:18
dwatkinsI've always considered myself a citizen of Europe, as the school I went to was a european one.13:18
shaunoand it saves me the embarrassment of admitting the UK's foreign policy is driven by the Daily Mail13:18
dwatkinsit appears they aren't aware of the .ac.uk domains, though: http://www.esculham.co.uk/13:19
SuperMatttoo many of the UK's policies are daily mail driven13:21
* dwatkins shudders13:22
dwatkinsI don't understand why that paper sells so well13:22
* brobostigon reads private eye.13:24
directhexfear sells13:24
popeyhttp://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA2613:26
popeyhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/45460174471116800013:27
shaunothat doesn't seem so wise.  could be interesting though13:29
dwatkins"Poitras responded to a question of if she would hazard an entry into the United States and she responded that she planned to attend an April 11th event regardless of the legal or professional threats posed by the United States authorities."13:29
dwatkinsMy cheap USB fan with LEDs on it that is a clock is now just a fan #FirstWorldProblems13:37
bashrcI consider myself a citizen of planet Earth13:39
MooDooafternoon all13:40
dwatkinswell said, bashrc13:40
bashrcI just consider countries to be zones of administerial convenience13:41
popeyHippy.13:41
popey13:41
bashrcheh, I don't even have long hair13:41
directhexi'm more of a visitor to planet earth than a citizen13:55
directhexwith a residency visa13:55
dwatkinsI feel like an alien sitting in the corner solving problems he sees as they float past13:56
dwatkinseither that, or I'm actually from another century, but I had my memory wiped.14:15
MartijnVdSdogmatic69: wait, you're https://www.youtube.com/user/ZoggFromBetelgeuse ?!14:18
dogmatic69nope14:19
MartijnVdSuhrr I meant to say directhex:14:19
dogmatic69ah14:19
foobarryi do these very lowly paid surveys for ipsos etc.. lots of them seem to be about home broadband and/or beer14:20
foobarryinteresting to see what market research they are doing though14:25
jussifoobarry: I do similar ones here. for the same reason.14:45
foobarryget paid pittance14:49
foobarrylike £1 for 20  minutes14:50
jussithese ones dont even pay. you get put into a draw for a gift card...14:50
popeybug #128397915:01
lubotu3bug 1283979 in unity (Ubuntu) "moving windows causes the top bar and the launcher bar to flicker" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128397915:01
foobarryjussi: one of the surveys just now says "did you share any unauthorised films online in the last 12 moinths?"15:10
bigcalmHow do you know if a film is unauthorised?15:13
foobarryi.e did you share any copyrighted films onlien15:14
dwatkinsI imagine it's pretty easy to tell15:14
foobarryi didn't , but if i did, would i say yes?15:14
bigcalmIgnore me, I was being pedantic15:14
dwatkinsperhaps it's like the riddle of the two people, one of whom lies, the other tells the truth15:14
dwatkinsnext question "have you ever lied on a survey?"15:14
foobarryi got screened out of the survey after saying no15:15
foobarryits a trap!15:15
bigcalmAre t-mobile and orange offering 4g now? Or does one have to move their contract to ee?15:23
foobarryeven three are doing it15:24
foobarryas i realised because my wireless mics stopped working15:24
awilkinsOch, shite15:29
awilkinsOops15:29
awilkinsSorry, channel unfriendly15:29
mapphey bigcalm i think you gotta go to ee15:53
bigcalmHo hum15:54
bigcalmI'd lose my discount then15:54
mappwhenever ive looked at 4g its too expensive anyway16:13
mappi have unlimited 3g atm and thats the best i can get16:13
mappi pai 50quid/month though..couldnt see any way to get it for any less16:13
mappand it includes tethering16:13
bigcalm3g is actually fine for my needs. Just that 8th May sees the end of my current contract and time for a new handset16:24
bigcalmSo getting one that can do 4g is nice, but I guess not going to get used16:25
awilkinsbigcalm, I've separated my handset and contract cycles16:25
bigcalmWe've recently had this discussion in here :P16:26
awilkinsYeah16:26
awilkins£10 pcm for 1GB inc. tethering suits me just fine16:27
awilkinsHardly ever tether anyway16:27
bigcalmOppo any good?16:27
awilkinsOppo?16:27
bigcalmYeah, that's what I thought16:27
bigcalmhttps://en.oppo.com/16:27
awilkinsNice idea I suppose16:29
awilkinsHappy enough with my N4, but if you want the extra customizability they seem to have the right attitude16:29
awilkinsWho knows about the hardware though..16:29
bigcalmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mY7Px6n4o16:30
mappawilkins sure but i do like 3-4gig a month 3g at times16:36
mappand tether on the train etc16:36
awilkinsmapp, Heh, don't travel on trains anymore, and when I did it was usually over the pennines... tethering almost pointless  :-)16:36
awilkinsOuch $600 for the fancy end Oppo16:37
mappah16:38
bigcalmLooks like I'll "make do" with the Samsung Galaxy S516:39
mapphow much that gonna cost u16:39
mappfor the phone and per month16:39
bigcalmHopefully 50 quid up front and no more than 30 quid a month for 2 years (which is what I'm currently on)16:39
bigcalmThat's if I can get the SGS5 on my Friends & Family discount16:40
bigcalmT-Mobile originally said that I couldn't have the SGS3 on my discount contract. But when I tried to cancel my contract to go elsewhere, they said I could have it16:40
mappthat seems ok16:40
mappbut16:40
mappthat seems cheap16:41
mapphard to judge as all i want is unlimited 3g though and that costs money dnt care about mins ir texts16:41
bigcalmThe S5 has the style of the S216:41
mappnot upgrading till the i6 is out16:41
mapp:D16:41
mappil be putting a pre order in once the dates released16:43
mappcant wait16:43
bigcalmLooking at these new phones makes my SGS3 feel small16:46
mappKIK16:47
mappLOL EVEN16:47
mappwell16:47
mappmy friend had that big samsung thats like a phablet16:47
mapphe got sick of it and sold it16:47
mapplike a big screen is nice except it dont fit in your pocket so its awkward16:47
bigcalmThe Note?16:47
mappna a phone tablet note is ust a tablet aint it?16:47
mappi mean for using the net or watching videos its sweet but it wouldnt fit in my pocket16:48
bigcalmThe S5 is only slightly larger in both dimensions than the S3 that I have. So it'll still fit in my pocket16:48
mappthe i6 is coming in 2 varieties apparently16:48
bigcalmDoes one of them have a usable OS?16:48
bigcalmNa, that'll never happen16:48
mapppffff16:48
mapp:P16:48
bigcalm</troll>16:48
mapphave u used an iphone16:48
mappi love them16:49
bigcalmI've used an iPad. Hated it16:49
mappi think even popey has an iphone?16:49
popeyi do16:49
mappyea see16:49
popeyand android, firefox, ubuntu..16:49
bigcalmpopey is an Apple fan boy16:49
popeyshut it16:49
mapplol16:49
bigcalm:D16:49
popeyi have 5 phones on my desk, not rnough16:49
mappive got an android tablet nexus7/ipad air 128gig/firefox zte open/firefox other phone and i516:50
mappso not an apple fanboy..i just like ios:)16:50
mappi dont think androids half as good tbh16:50
mappfirefox os phones arent a fraction of the cost of ios/android so dont have to be as good16:50
mapps5s how much off contract?16:52
popeythe new $25 ffos phone has 128MB RAM16:52
mappZTE open?16:52
popeyno16:52
popeythe new one16:53
mappoh16:53
popeymade by foxconn i think16:53
mappi mean ive got a zte open..and its obviously not anywhere near an iphone 516:53
mappbut its also 1/10 of the price16:53
popeyindeed, i have one too, it was given to me16:53
mapppeople dont seem to get that16:53
popeyits a terrible phone.16:53
mappbut its 1/10 of the price of an iphone or s516:53
popeyso what?16:53
popeythat doesn't stop it being terrible16:54
mappwell, then you cant expect miracles :)16:54
popeyI didnt expect miracles16:54
popeyYou're suggesting things I never said.16:54
mappno i didnt mean that just saying i didnt expect much16:55
mappi mean imo it does twitter and the net and its cheap its what i expected16:55
popeyyou cant even scroll properly16:55
popeyit flies past the target16:55
mappyea thats annoying16:55
mappi wonder if the other firefox phones are any better16:56
mappalso wonder if any if the updates make it better16:56
popeythe geeks phone feels nice17:00
popeya bit like a sony device17:00
bigcalmUp in Manchester tomorrow. Where's nice to have dinner on one's own?17:09
mappnandos!17:10
mappi went there in the ardale17:10
bigcalm¬.¬17:10
mappits nice lol17:11
bigcalmI like Nandos, but I can get that here17:11
popeycurry mile dude!17:12
mapphard rock cafe17:12
bigcalmHayley be home!17:12
* bigcalm scurries off to be happy17:12
mapphayley?17:13
awilkinsLots of nice place in Manchester17:14
mappyea17:14
mappgah17:16
mappin a queue17:16
mappon phone to passport office;/17:16
Azelphurso, I met some guy locally who wants to set up a bitcoin meetup yesterday, he casually mentions he has something from Butterfly Labs and that he broke the PSU, I offered to go take a look. Turns out he had a BFL SC Single, sitting in a box, since November...*cry*17:17
Azelphurfor those not in the know...$3000 worth of hardware, $20,000+ in missed profits17:17
mappwoah17:21
mappyou in the US?17:21
Azelphurmapp: nope, UK17:22
mappoh just u said in dollars17:24
mappgoing to United game on 3rd may17:40
mappthen flying to Slovakia ..coming ack 6th may for another united game:P17:40
mappthen flying to Budapset:D17:40
bigcalmmapp: Hayley is my wife17:43
bigcalmThat sounds weird to say, but it's true17:43
mappah17:46
mappi cant imagine being married or living ih soeone17:46
mappi love living alone17:46
popeyI can believe it, I witnessed the marriage!17:46
popeyer, wedding17:46
mappliving alone is nice17:47
mappno questions of where im going etc17:47
popeyheh17:47
popeyyeah, i can see how that could be appealing17:47
mappespecially with my odd hours lol17:47
popeyright now I have a kid watching telly, wifey asleep on the sofa, and daughter dancing in the kitchen17:47
popeyi could go and and nobody would notice ☻17:48
mappi went to the casino at 4am for a beer yesterday17:48
popeyi have never been to a casino17:48
mappi hate being questionned on what im doing..17:48
mappim a member of both (stannley/genting/grrosvenor)17:49
mapponly go for a drink..i dont gamble usually17:49
mappmugs game17:49
mappi work for 365 and i know how much we make17:49
mappso there's only one winner clearly17:49
mrjdy123Hi guys18:18
mappurgh20:11
mappticket resale 24th and 27th20:11
mappwonder why they split it up?;/20:11
mappstill 2 more chances to get a ticket..failed on release day;/20:11
MartijnVdS.. bigv dropped of the net for a bit there21:35
daftykinsD:22:06
daftykinsthat's no good22:06
MartijnVdSit came back in 2 minutes or so22:09
Alue_hi. it's Alue.22:13
MartijnVdShi Alue_22:13
Alue_please help me to partition my disk.22:13
Alue_I use Ubuntu 12.0422:14
Alue_please guide me step-by-step.22:15
MartijnVdSAlue_: do you have another OS on the same disk?22:15
Alue_no.22:15
Alue_but I would like to partition it.22:16
MartijnVdSAlue_: in that case, go with the installer's default for "Whole disk":22:16
Alue_???22:16
Alue_please guide me22:16
Alue_my laptop is on.22:17
Alue_what should I do next??22:17
Alue_hello is anybody there???22:21
directhexAlue_, why not use the installer defaults?22:22
Alue_guide me at every step.22:23
Alue_What's installer default???22:23
directhexeverything in one partition, except for a swap partition, i think?22:24
Alue_yeah.22:26
daftykinsAlue_: you were asking the same last night, how far did you get?22:28
Alue_hey I was speaking about a boot error. I have overcome that issue. thanks. Thank you all for the support.22:29
Alue_what is linux-swap???22:33
daftykinsit is like a virtual memory partition22:34
Alue_okay.22:37
Alue_it is consuming my memory.22:37
Alue_is it really required???22:37
daftykinsdepends what RAM you have22:49
daftykinsor whether you want to suspend/hibernate22:49
daftykinsa max of 4GB really isn't that much22:53
daftykinsbut to sleep or hibernate you'd need it the same size as what RAM you have22:53
Alue_help me partitio!!!22:55
daftykinsyou need to ask a more specific question22:58
daftykinshow much disk space do you have free? is this free space after Windows? are you dual-booting? are you installing ubuntu on its' own?22:58
daftykinswhy aren't you just choosing automatic and getting on with it?22:58

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