| Kilos | hi superfly ThatGraemeGuy jabberwocky93 Spekko | 06:48 |
|---|---|---|
| kbmonkey | hi Kilos | 06:49 |
| superfly | morning kbmonkey | 06:49 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 06:49 |
| superfly | and Kilos | 06:50 |
| kbmonkey | hello superfly | 06:50 |
| kbmonkey | so my phone dropped and cracked, my insurance covers me for a new phone - now I am deciding | 06:50 |
| Kilos | wow the fone just dropped? | 06:51 |
| Kilos | off the table | 06:51 |
| kbmonkey | no, out of my hand trying to juggle too many things getting in the car :p | 06:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:51 |
| Kilos | what fone kbmonkey ? | 06:52 |
| Kilos | i see they even advertising the samsung s5 already | 06:52 |
| kbmonkey | I have not decided yet kilos | 06:53 |
| Kilos | no man the one that dropped? | 06:53 |
| Spekko | Morning Kilos | 06:53 |
| kbmonkey | I dont want to go top of the line | 06:53 |
| kbmonkey | cos then Id have to pay in extra | 06:53 |
| Kilos | ah | 06:53 |
| kbmonkey | it was the galaxy ace - android phone | 06:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning | 06:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | kbmonkey: what's your budget for the new phone? | 06:54 |
| kbmonkey | hi hi Spekko and ThatGraemeGuy | 06:54 |
| kbmonkey | I think I am covered up to 2500 | 06:54 |
| Spekko | morning kbmonkey | 06:54 |
| kbmonkey | anyting extra Ill have to pay + the excess | 06:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | how much is the excess and how much extra are you willing to add? | 06:55 |
| kbmonkey | the excess is minimum 300 and they say it varies depending the phone I choose | 06:56 |
| kbmonkey | I am hoping to get something without paying extra on top of that :p | 06:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you can get an s3 mini in that price range | 06:57 |
| kbmonkey | ThatGraemeGuy, I was thinking exactly the same :) | 06:58 |
| kbmonkey | oh crap, I got to go - need to do regression testing for a release... | 06:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i've been due for upgrade since 1 feb but i've decided i'm just going to let my contract run out and go prepaid | 06:58 |
| kbmonkey | ya, I want to get a phone and end my contract too - | 06:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | nothing wrong with my phone and there's not enough "wow" in newer phones to convince me to keep spending R300+ | 06:59 |
| kbmonkey | been on it for almost a decade and prepaid is the way to go | 06:59 |
| kbmonkey | totally, I just need functional - my pc is where the action is ;) | 06:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | none of the contracts cater to my usage pattern, heavy on data, extremely light on voice calls | 06:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so i just waste money on contract airtime i don't use | 07:00 |
| kbmonkey | I'll research it more later - time to try and use my brain o.O | 07:00 |
| Kilos | haha my fone only works when i want to complain to my isp | 07:01 |
| jabberwocky93 | looks like ubuntu 14.04 is behind on the release candidate | 07:03 |
| * jabberwocky93 wants to install 14.04 asap | 07:03 | |
| Kilos | i have it running jabberwocky93 | 07:04 |
| Kilos | bit better than 12.04 | 07:04 |
| jabberwocky93 | the problem being that I want to avoid too much updates | 07:05 |
| Kilos | ai! then let it settle down first | 07:06 |
| jabberwocky93 | the translation packages are usually the last update I wait for before I install | 07:06 |
| Kilos | sometimes updates come twice a day | 07:06 |
| jabberwocky93 | die rooimiere byt! | 07:07 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:08 |
| jabberwocky93 | oh snap, I don't have my flash drive with me | 07:08 |
| * jabberwocky93 will have to wait | 07:08 | |
| Kilos | hi charl_ | 07:12 |
| charl_ | good morning | 07:12 |
| charl_ | Maaz: coffee on | 07:12 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 07:12 | |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee please | 07:12 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Righto | 07:12 |
| charl_ | hi Kilos | 07:13 |
| charl_ | how's it going with the flu | 07:13 |
| charl_ | is it gone yet? | 07:13 |
| Kilos | seems a bit better ty | 07:13 |
| Kilos | still coughing and nose runs | 07:13 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! | 07:16 |
| Kilos | Maaz ty | 07:16 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 07:16 |
| charl_ | Maaz: thank you | 07:24 |
| Maaz | charl_: Sure | 07:24 |
| charl_ | hi Golynx | 07:24 |
| Kilos | hi Golynx | 07:25 |
| charl_ | Kilos: that sucks :( for how long have you been sick now? | 07:25 |
| Kilos | 2 weeks about | 07:25 |
| Golynx | hi Kilos | 07:25 |
| Golynx | hi charl_ | 07:25 |
| charl_ | Kilos: whow ok, look after yourself man ! | 07:25 |
| Kilos | worst flu i ever seen. normally i miss getting it | 07:25 |
| charl_ | Golynx: how's it going with you today ? better ? | 07:25 |
| charl_ | Kilos: same here | 07:25 |
| Kilos | swaar and sis had it for a month now | 07:25 |
| charl_ | bah ! | 07:26 |
| Golynx | charl_ i'm a quick healer , its amazing i can move my neck again to the right . Still some sharp pain and stiffness left though | 07:27 |
| Golynx | Kilos whats wrong | 07:27 |
| Golynx | oh flu , i didnt see it | 07:27 |
| Kilos | only flu still but it seems to be weakening Golynx | 07:27 |
| charl_ | Golynx: ok be careful | 07:28 |
| Golynx | thats good kilos, we can beat these things :) | 07:29 |
| Golynx | will do charl_ | 07:29 |
| Kilos | yeah | 07:29 |
| charl_ | :) | 07:30 |
| charl_ | ok i'm off again ttyl | 07:30 |
| Kilos | ok | 07:30 |
| * Squirm wanders in | 07:51 | |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 07:52 |
| Squirm | I suppose all of you that need to know already know about heartbleed? | 07:54 |
| Squirm | it has been a few days now | 07:55 |
| Kilos | yeah | 07:55 |
| charl_ | https://xkcd.com/1354/ | 07:55 |
| Squirm | brilliant | 07:56 |
| magespawn | good day all | 07:58 |
| charl_ | hi magespawn | 07:58 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 07:58 |
| Squirm | hey magespawn | 07:59 |
| magespawn | anybody have recommendations for a password manager? | 08:00 |
| Squirm | I just use the standard one that comes with Mint for my passwords | 08:00 |
| Squirm | and Chrome for my websites | 08:01 |
| Squirm | s/website/website passwords | 08:01 |
| charl_ | magespawn: currently i use keepass2 | 08:01 |
| Squirm | the joys of Chrome syncronisation :D | 08:01 |
| charl_ | Squirm: how secure is that? | 08:01 |
| charl_ | magespawn: i have been looking at moving to this: http://www.zx2c4.com/projects/password-store/ | 08:02 |
| magespawn | i was just reading up on this http://www.pcworld.com/article/2142104/lastpass-now-scans-for-heartbleed-affected-accounts.html | 08:02 |
| magespawn | i am not sure if there is a standard one with lubuntu | 08:02 |
| Squirm | charl_: no idea how secure it is | 08:02 |
| Squirm | the only password I don't want people to get is my banking password, that isn't stored | 08:03 |
| * Squirm shrugs | 08:03 | |
| Squirm | Google has m life stored on its servers, so if something happens, I'm screwed anyway :P | 08:04 |
| magespawn | lol | 08:04 |
| charl_ | i don't have a banking password, i have a digipass | 08:04 |
| charl_ | two-factor authentication :) | 08:04 |
| charl_ | lo | 08:05 |
| charl_ | lol | 08:05 |
| magespawn | Google has apparently already patched their servers and I have the authenticator on my phone | 08:05 |
| Squirm | with FNB, to pay anyone not on your saved accounts, you need a One Time Pin anyway | 08:06 |
| Squirm | so they'll be able to see how much I owe people | 08:06 |
| Squirm | but that's about it :P | 08:06 |
| magespawn | looks like keepass and lastpass are the most popular according to this http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/best-linux-password-manager.html | 08:09 |
| charl_ | for me it's about which one is most secure | 08:13 |
| charl_ | afaik lastpass is not open source | 08:13 |
| charl_ | while keepass is gpl licensed | 08:14 |
| magespawn | i see there is a release of python tools for visual studio | 08:14 |
| magespawn | so lets give keepass a try then | 08:16 |
| charl_ | microsoft has been busy with iron python for a long time | 08:17 |
| Kilos | things getting worse daily | 08:21 |
| Kilos | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/general/100368-new-online-banking-fraud-scheme-in-south-africa.html | 08:21 |
| charl_ | shocking | 08:41 |
| charl_ | it's almost like unauthorised domain transfers | 08:41 |
| charl_ | between registrars | 08:41 |
| Kilos | and no one accepts the blame | 08:42 |
| Kilos | online banking is rather risky in the new world | 08:42 |
| charl_ | but cellphones are very insecure - i don't even have one | 08:43 |
| charl_ | they are also a major privacy risk | 08:43 |
| charl_ | two-factor authentication using sms is a horrible idea | 08:43 |
| charl_ | digipass is a great system | 08:43 |
| charl_ | whow even juniper and cisco have been affected by the heartbleed problem | 08:46 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 10:24 |
| Kilos | you seem more stable today magespawn | 10:29 |
| magespawn | yes kilos, different location | 10:37 |
| Kilos | aha | 10:37 |
| magespawn | back up at bonamanzi for the weekend | 10:37 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:37 |
| Kilos | so its in empangeni its bad | 10:38 |
| magespawn | yes the link there is rather a long one, but there might be a chance of getting adsl to the property | 10:38 |
| Kilos | good | 10:39 |
| Kilos | wifi link? | 10:39 |
| magespawn | wireless yes, but not direct line of sight so there is another station in between on top of a hill | 10:40 |
| Kilos | if they see each other it shouldnt drop then | 10:40 |
| magespawn | indeed but it does, so there are a lot of factors to check to narrow down the problem | 10:44 |
| Kilos | yeah | 10:45 |
| Kilos | lets hope you get the adsl then | 10:45 |
| Kilos | not good for the head to think too much | 10:46 |
| Golynx | hi magespawn | 10:46 |
| magespawn | hi Golynx | 10:46 |
| magespawn | charl_, do you use the ubuntu package or do you run it from wine? keepass that is. | 10:49 |
| Golynx | my wifi didn't work so i went to ubuntu channel and found out the bluetooth switched turned it on and off lol | 10:49 |
| charl_ | magespawn: ubuntu package keepass2 | 10:50 |
| charl_ | runs on mono | 10:50 |
| magespawn | Golynx, yes with a laptop i have found they have one switch that does both | 10:50 |
| magespawn | ty charl_ | 10:51 |
| Golynx | magespawn: yeah mine is the same. | 10:51 |
| Golynx | but mine was locked and had to do sudo rfkill unblock all , to get it to finally work correct | 10:52 |
| Kilos | wow you learning fancy things hey Golynx | 10:53 |
| Golynx | Kilos lol | 10:54 |
| Golynx | i just do what the experts say and put it in a commands list file :) | 10:55 |
| Golynx | save also* | 10:55 |
| Kilos | ya me too | 10:56 |
| Kilos | got commands saved all over | 10:56 |
| Kilos | battle to find the one i need often though | 10:57 |
| Golynx | I usually write 1 or 2 sentences explaining what the command does. I wana make a small command search app so i just type in what i wana do and it gives me a list of suitable commands to use. | 10:59 |
| Kilos | aha | 11:03 |
| magespawn | bbl got to go do an install | 11:18 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn your team let us down again | 12:10 |
| nlsthzn | yup :( | 12:11 |
| Private_User | good day people | 12:51 |
| Private_User | hmm... mighty quite in here | 12:54 |
| Golynx | Private_User: hey | 12:54 |
| Private_User | hey Golynx | 12:55 |
| Golynx | they all said TGIF :) | 12:55 |
| Private_User | yeah TGIF :D | 12:56 |
| Private_User | but these days for me no difference between TGIF and the rest of the week | 12:57 |
| Private_User | :/ | 12:57 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 12:57 |
| Private_User | hey Kilos | 12:57 |
| Private_User | ok let me ask my question, it maybe stupid but I still am an ubuntu newbie | 12:57 |
| Kilos | dont nag just ask | 12:58 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:58 |
| Private_User | I am trying to use my Nokia CS-19 Internet Stick with Lubuntu | 12:58 |
| Private_User | how do I access it? | 12:58 |
| Kilos | as a modem? | 12:58 |
| Private_User | I see it when I do usb-devices | 12:58 |
| Private_User | yeah as a modem I wanna use it as a modem | 12:58 |
| Kilos | in the network manager applet thing it should off the choice of add a new mobile device | 12:59 |
| Kilos | when you plug it in dont you get a popup | 13:00 |
| Private_User | I was looking could not find it | 13:00 |
| Private_User | nope no pop up | 13:00 |
| Private_User | actually a pop up for the memory card | 13:00 |
| Private_User | but not for the modem | 13:00 |
| Kilos | its a tiny upside down triangle or just an upright kinda tower | 13:01 |
| Kilos | normally in one of the panels | 13:01 |
| Private_User | sorry I need to start the machine up again tried a few things from the internet earlier | 13:02 |
| Kilos | ok | 13:02 |
| Golynx | is network-manager installed as default in lubuntu | 13:03 |
| Kilos | yes must be | 13:03 |
| Private_User | so while we wait, hows it going? | 13:03 |
| Kilos | in all buntus | 13:03 |
| Golynx | oh ok | 13:04 |
| Golynx | fine and you Private_User | 13:04 |
| Kilos | someone here is using lubuntu but i dunno who | 13:04 |
| Kilos | does it have a taskbar | 13:05 |
| Private_User | yep | 13:05 |
| Kilos | and no nm icon in it? | 13:06 |
| Golynx | Private_User: you can also try sudo service network-manager restart . If nothing is happening | 13:06 |
| Private_User | there is but there was nothing there earlier | 13:06 |
| Private_User | but let me try again and see if I get something gonna have to disconnect from here though | 13:07 |
| Private_User | brb | 13:07 |
| Kilos | if there isnt one maybe right clicking on the taskbar and going panel settings will give the option to add a nm-applet or icon | 13:07 |
| Kilos | oh there is? | 13:07 |
| Golynx | in 2007 i tried connecting my phone to pc. I needed specific software though for the phone to talk to the pc. | 13:08 |
| Golynx | but nowadays most network link software are already installed on the phone | 13:09 |
| Kilos | ubuntu sees cellphones quicker than it sees modems | 13:10 |
| Kilos | you dont normally need to install anything | 13:10 |
| Golynx | back then you had to buy a CD that had the software on lol | 13:10 |
| Golynx | yeah, its easier today | 13:11 |
| Kilos | oh windows always wants to install something first | 13:12 |
| Kilos | then reboot | 13:12 |
| Kilos | ubuntu should just see it | 13:13 |
| Golynx | haha ya ,that was win Xp | 13:13 |
| Kilos | i have the same with 7.modem first gotta install stuff | 13:13 |
| Kilos | then it first asks do you want to allow untrusted stuff to install | 13:15 |
| Golynx | lol | 13:16 |
| Kilos | whew he is taking a while | 13:16 |
| Golynx | windows likes frustrating people , then after a year fixing the issue. The same with win 8 | 13:16 |
| Kilos | haha after a year of playing games on 95 98 xp and fdisk and format monthly i came to ubuntu | 13:17 |
| Kilos | now if it doesnt work on ubuntu its not worth having | 13:19 |
| Golynx | ya true | 13:21 |
| Kilos | except for modem tools that are best in xp | 13:22 |
| Kilos | Golynx, have you installed modem-manager-gui | 13:22 |
| Kilos | it shows lots about your modem | 13:23 |
| Kilos | even smses | 13:23 |
| Golynx | its already installed i see, but dunno how to access it | 13:24 |
| Trixar_za | Through NetworkManager | 13:25 |
| Kilos | ya | 13:25 |
| Kilos | just run it in terminal | 13:25 |
| Golynx | modem-manager[8205]: <info> ModemManager (version 0.5.2.0) starting... | 13:26 |
| Golynx | modem-manager[8205]: <warn> Could not acquire the org.freedesktop.ModemManager service. | 13:26 |
| Golynx | Message: 'Connection ":1.80" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.ModemManager" due to security policies in the configuration file' | 13:26 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za, hi, you on lubuntu hey? | 13:26 |
| Kilos | try it with sudo Golynx | 13:27 |
| Golynx | modem-manager[8247]: <warn> Could not acquire the org.freedesktop.ModemManager service as it is already taken. Return: 3 | 13:28 |
| Kilos | oh my | 13:28 |
| Kilos | in unity it comes up in dash and just works | 13:28 |
| Golynx | what is its name other than modem-manager | 13:31 |
| Kilos | modem-manager-gui | 13:31 |
| Golynx | command not found | 13:32 |
| Kilos | should popup a little window | 13:32 |
| Kilos | you sure its installed? | 13:33 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude reinstall modem-manager-gui | 13:33 |
| Golynx | yeah, all green in synaptic | 13:33 |
| Kilos | Maaz, how to run modem-manager-gui in xubuntu | 13:34 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Huh? | 13:34 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:34 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google how to run modem-manager-gui in xubuntu | 13:34 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Step-by-Step Guide for Configuring USB Modem on Ubuntu" http://telecomtalk.info/step-by-step-guide-configuring-usb-modem-ubuntu/101849/ :: "Xubuntu Linux Documentation - About.com" http://linux.about.com/od/xubuntu_doc/ :: "ModemManager for Linux Free Download" http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/ModemManager-53897.shtml :: "'network-manager' | 13:34 |
| Maaz | Answers By New Users - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/tags/network-manager/new :: "AppDevelope… | 13:34 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:35 |
| Kilos | must be in the other 500 links | 13:35 |
| Golynx | can you view files on the modem with this app | 13:35 |
| Kilos | what files? | 13:36 |
| Golynx | there is a small drive on the modem i used to opened it on windows | 13:36 |
| Kilos | the storage partition | 13:37 |
| Golynx | on gparted too was listed as a pertition, but linux not picking it up | 13:37 |
| Kilos | or does yours also have the new cdrom stuff | 13:37 |
| Golynx | partition* | 13:37 |
| Golynx | i dunno, i saved some stuff on there when i was on windows. I guess its used to store the drivers for the modem and stuff | 13:39 |
| Kilos | devices sms ussd info scan traffic contacts | 13:39 |
| Kilos | thats what it can do | 13:39 |
| Golynx | 2GB total , but was less than a Meg in there when i first opened the drive | 13:40 |
| Golynx | hmm, i cant use the sms or ussd though | 13:41 |
| Kilos | is it running? | 13:42 |
| Golynx | i am using the modem all day on Cell-c Default (Cell C EDGE) connection | 13:43 |
| Kilos | ai! thats so slow | 13:44 |
| Kilos | is cellc only edge there? | 13:44 |
| Kilos | one step up from gprs | 13:44 |
| Golynx | ya lol | 13:44 |
| Kilos | fone them and complain | 13:44 |
| Kilos | tell them you want 3g | 13:45 |
| Kilos | pretty please | 13:45 |
| Golynx | if i plug in vodacom now it will give me full broadband 3G , but they too expensive | 13:45 |
| Kilos | old private fella battling looks like | 13:45 |
| Golynx | haha, imaging how long that line of complaints are already at Cellc | 13:46 |
| Kilos | fone them they can maybe just switch it from there | 13:46 |
| Trixar_za | 3G modems can be a pain though. Especially if you have to fight with NetworkManager and modem-manager | 13:46 |
| Kilos | you right Trixar_za very painful | 13:47 |
| Kilos | but without a choice what can you do | 13:47 |
| Trixar_za | You never told me if the older build of sakis3g worked or not | 13:47 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 13:47 |
| Kilos | oh btw sakis now sees and connects my dlink | 13:47 |
| Trixar_za | So the older code works on systems before the libusb-1.x switch | 13:48 |
| Kilos | but cant do the modeswitch config | 13:48 |
| Golynx | atleast i never get disconnected :) | 13:48 |
| Kilos | nope the old one didnt work at all | 13:48 |
| Trixar_za | Then it's probably not sakis3g | 13:48 |
| Kilos | the new one wants that libusb.h to configure it | 13:49 |
| Kilos | but it switches it and connects | 13:49 |
| Trixar_za | What do you mean? | 13:49 |
| Kilos | you gotta use interface 2 for some reason | 13:49 |
| Kilos | only switch modem works | 13:49 |
| Kilos | in the more options | 13:50 |
| Trixar_za | No, I meant why does it need libusb.h? | 13:50 |
| Kilos | lemme look what the other things are called | 13:50 |
| Trixar_za | The old one doesn't use libusb.h - at all | 13:50 |
| Trixar_za | it uses usb.h | 13:51 |
| Kilos | compile embedded usb modeswitch | 13:51 |
| charl_ | just upgraded to ubuntu 14.04 | 13:51 |
| charl_ | looking very good for a beta 2 | 13:51 |
| Kilos | that wants the libusb.h | 13:51 |
| Kilos | im on 14.04 here now charl_ | 13:52 |
| Kilos | unity | 13:52 |
| Trixar_za | Do you mean you're recompiling yourself? | 13:52 |
| Kilos | no i clicked on it | 13:52 |
| Kilos | also the only setup modem wants libusb.h | 13:53 |
| Kilos | but only prepare modem works and gives the tty position | 13:53 |
| Trixar_za | https://github.com/Trixarian/sakis3g-source/blob/master/README.md | 13:53 |
| Trixar_za | And that only applies with the one using the latest source code | 13:54 |
| Kilos | thats what i have installed on 14.04 now | 13:54 |
| charl_ | Kilos: am using i3 but it is looking very good | 13:54 |
| charl_ | also managed to get vmware workstation to run except i needed to patch it first | 13:55 |
| Trixar_za | I do see the flaw in preparation method though - damn ubuntu | 13:55 |
| charl_ | it doesn't run out of the box with the new kernel 3.13 yet | 13:55 |
| Kilos | ubuntu keeps you making sakis better Trixar_za | 13:56 |
| Kilos | unity runs lekker ChanServ | 13:56 |
| Kilos | better than 12.04 | 13:56 |
| Trixar_za | No, they keep making it worse | 13:56 |
| Trixar_za | Why move it to it's own folder? | 13:56 |
| Trixar_za | ONLY Ubuntu does that | 13:56 |
| Trixar_za | So it's THEIR mess | 13:56 |
| Trixar_za | But whatever. Try sudo ln -s /usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h /usr/include/libusb.h | 13:57 |
| Trixar_za | and I bet you it will work now | 13:57 |
| Kilos | permanently? | 13:57 |
| Trixar_za | Yes | 13:57 |
| Kilos | or run command every time | 13:57 |
| Kilos | cool | 13:57 |
| Trixar_za | Although I'm sure http://trixarian.net/sakis3g-old.gz should work without problems | 13:58 |
| Trixar_za | Since even Ubuntu doesn't move usb.h | 13:58 |
| charl_ | have a good evening all | 13:59 |
| Kilos | i couldnt get it to run here | 13:59 |
| Kilos | most likely me doing something wrong | 13:59 |
| Kilos | did you look at that u3 tool Trixar_za | 14:00 |
| Kilos | im scared to use it and then the whole cdrom part is deleed | 14:00 |
| Trixar_za | No, I just left mine on there - it will still be a cdrom - just empty if you overwrite it | 14:01 |
| Kilos | yes i have ians old zte mf190 here that the cellc stuff is corrupt so it cant install on windows | 14:03 |
| Kilos | and its read only, so i thought removing it then updating the firmware will fix it | 14:03 |
| Kilos | he needs to use his modem on win and kde | 14:06 |
| Trixar_za | Hmmm - my bad - seems it's a debian thing | 14:06 |
| Trixar_za | https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libusb.h&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any | 14:06 |
| Kilos | say sorry ubuntu | 14:06 |
| Trixar_za | No - if Ubuntu doesn't fix it, it's their fault too :P | 14:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:09 |
| Kilos | they dont seem overly worried about mobile connecting | 14:09 |
| Kilos | always gotta be bug fixes | 14:09 |
| Kilos | since 10.10 | 14:10 |
| Kilos | must changed dev peeps | 14:10 |
| Kilos | i got a lekker command to make nm auto connect | 14:10 |
| Kilos | sudo gedit /etc/rc.local | 14:11 |
| Kilos | Now add this line above exit 0 | 14:11 |
| Kilos | (while :; do nmcli -t nm wwan on; sleep 1; done)& | 14:11 |
| Golynx | someone at ##ubuntu almost rip my head off when i opened a gui app with sudo instead of gksudu lol | 14:12 |
| Golynx | so if i switch to windows i will have to download the drivers for Audio, chipset, graphics, keyboard, mouse and input devices, modem, network, storage, bios, diagnostic tools etc... lol | 14:15 |
| Private_User | I am back with no luck although I did get a bit further than before | 14:17 |
| Private_User | it now shows me an option to enable mobile broadband but when I click enable it connects to GSM and no network connectivity | 14:18 |
| Private_User | I am still not sure where to select connect to my Nokia USB internet stick | 14:19 |
| Golynx | goodness i just counted all the required software i will need and it totals 942 MB :O | 14:21 |
| Golynx | Private_User: how old is the phone | 14:21 |
| Kilos | the modem should have its own install software on it | 14:22 |
| Private_User | and now my internet is a issue again | 14:23 |
| Kilos | Private_User, try right click it and then chhose vpn connections | 14:23 |
| Private_User | its a USB 3G data card or modem thingie what ever you call those USB sticks | 14:23 |
| Private_User | yeah but nothing is poping up automatically | 14:23 |
| Private_User | man just ping my self 105second reply | 14:23 |
| Kilos | you gotta tell it to ude internet and sometimes gotta put in the *99# | 14:24 |
| Kilos | s/ude/use | 14:24 |
| Kilos | i dont know lubuntu at all i think | 14:24 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za, you on lubuntu? | 14:25 |
| Trixar_za | An Lubuntu derivative | 14:26 |
| Golynx | Private_User: oh | 14:27 |
| Kilos | he cant get lubuntu to sork with his cellphone | 14:27 |
| Trixar_za | Peppermint to be exact - it uses Lubuntu parts, but also XFCE4's windows manager | 14:27 |
| Golynx | do you only have Lubuntu | 14:27 |
| Trixar_za | No, because the latest Lubuntu kind of sucks | 14:27 |
| Kilos | mine sees cells first time but struggles with some modems | 14:27 |
| Trixar_za | I have to say that NetworkManager pisses me off sometimes | 14:28 |
| Kilos | yeah its gone backwards since 10.10 | 14:28 |
| Golynx | i usually have to restart network-manager sometimes after boot , but its working good | 14:29 |
| Kilos | since unity came in nm has struggled | 14:31 |
| Kilos | but mind you 14.04 only struggles to see the dlink the zte and e220 just work | 14:32 |
| Golynx | Private_User: what does command usb-devices say | 14:33 |
| Kilos | whew thats a long one | 14:33 |
| Kilos | lsusb is easier methinks | 14:33 |
| Golynx | if it only says mass storage then it has to be switched | 14:34 |
| Golynx | Kilos ya it is | 14:34 |
| Golynx | Private_User: i think the answer is here , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1666505 | 14:36 |
| Golynx | its got alot of tweaking there but not sure if ubuntu 10.10 will apply . | 14:38 |
| Kilos | maybe usb-modeswitch isnt installed | 14:39 |
| Private_User | I have tried that Golynx that is why I am not sure what else I need to do cause I suspect that it had something to do with that as well since it picks up the memory card inside the modem | 14:39 |
| Kilos | modem or fone? | 14:39 |
| Kilos | im lost now | 14:39 |
| Private_User | modem Nokia CS-19 USB Internet Stick | 14:40 |
| Kilos | oh not a fone | 14:40 |
| Kilos | ok | 14:40 |
| Golynx | Private_User: is there a file /etc/usb_modeswitch.d | 14:40 |
| Kilos | check if you have usb-modeswitch installed | 14:40 |
| Private_User | yes | 14:40 |
| Private_User | it was empty so I created the file the thread speaks about | 14:41 |
| Kilos | does lubuntu have synaptic installed | 14:41 |
| Golynx | the rules for Nokia CS-19 USB in there too | 14:41 |
| Golynx | ok | 14:42 |
| Kilos | has anyone tried connman | 14:43 |
| Kilos | ive been bang because it wants to remove nm | 14:44 |
| Private_User | hopefully I did it correctly though | 14:44 |
| Kilos | sorry Private_User did lsusb show it there | 14:44 |
| Private_User | did not try that | 14:45 |
| Kilos | try | 14:45 |
| Kilos | it normally sees all usb stuffs | 14:45 |
| Private_User | will have to try it but after disconnecting from here | 14:45 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 14:46 |
| Private_User | but the usb-devices thingie picks up nokia datacard | 14:46 |
| Kilos | ya thats not seeing the modem | 14:46 |
| Kilos | lsusb should | 14:46 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za, help | 14:47 |
| Kilos | link to your new sakis please | 14:47 |
| Golynx | there is a bug of it on launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch-data/+bug/956783 | 14:47 |
| Golynx | seems to be more compatible with windows. But also has to be correct kinda info put into /etc/usb_modeswitch.d | 14:48 |
| Trixar_za | http://trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz for the new one and http://trixarian.net/sakis3g-old.gz for the pre-libusb-1.x version | 14:51 |
| Kilos | ty | 14:51 |
| Trixar_za | It may say old, but it's never than the one I used to have | 14:52 |
| Kilos | Private_User, get these 2 tools | 14:52 |
| Kilos | and copy paste the how to do it | 14:52 |
| Kilos | when nothing else sees the modem sakis does | 14:52 |
| Kilos | oh my gone again | 15:01 |
| Kilos | horrible when you install a new os and cant get it to connect | 15:06 |
| Kilos | inetpro, se ja man | 15:11 |
| inetpro | nee | 15:11 |
| inetpro | hoekom? | 15:11 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:12 |
| Kilos | sommer | 15:12 |
| Golynx | a 60TB hard drive, wow | 15:18 |
| Kilos | whew | 15:18 |
| Golynx | http://www.computerworld.com/slideshow/detail/145923/The-road-to-the-60TB-hard-drive?source=cwfb | 15:18 |
| Golynx | Moores law cant seem to stop lol | 15:18 |
| Trixar_za | https://github.com/Trixarian/sakis3g-source/tree/pre-libusb-1.x | 15:20 |
| Trixar_za | Made a branch for the older code | 15:20 |
| Kilos | cool ty Trixar_za | 15:21 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za, that line , compile embedded modeswitch, does it do its own work or do you use that to compile | 15:25 |
| Trixar_za | In sakis3g? It just recompiles the internal source code using your system's compiler and libraries | 15:26 |
| Kilos | oh so it fixes your systems modeswitch | 15:26 |
| Kilos | nothing on the modem itself | 15:27 |
| Trixar_za | Nope - and it only fixes it's own usb_modeswitch - not the system's one :P | 15:40 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:40 |
| Kilos | aquarat, you quiet hey | 15:53 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za, have you added sudo ln -s /usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h /usr/include/libusb.h | 15:55 |
| Kilos | in your sakis | 15:55 |
| Trixar_za | I did the copy one - but it's the same. | 16:12 |
| Kilos | aw | 16:13 |
| Trixar_za | The pre-libusb-1.x (or sakis3g-old.gz file off my site) doesn't need it though | 16:13 |
| Kilos | ok | 16:13 |
| Kilos | hey you clever guys i just go a mail with this info on blocking the heartbleed bug | 16:24 |
| Kilos | https://f5.com/solutions/mitigation/mitigating-openssl-heartbleed?mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRolu6jBd%2B%2FhmjTEU5z14%2B8pW6WxgYkz2EFye%2BLIHETpodcMT8NgMb%2FYDBceEJhqyQJxPr3DKdMNydh%2BRhbqCw%3D%3D | 16:24 |
| Trixar_za | Just update openssl | 16:27 |
| Trixar_za | Seriously, people are making it a much bigger thing than it really is | 16:27 |
| Kilos | update it how Trixar_za | 16:30 |
| Kilos | isnt 14.04 openssl the latest | 16:30 |
| Golynx | openssl is so widely used its really stupid to not update it | 16:30 |
| Trixar_za | It should be an security update with Ubuntu | 16:32 |
| Trixar_za | Will probably be backported for LTS versions too | 16:32 |
| Kilos | i see there is openssl-blacklist and openssl-blacklist-extra that one can install | 16:33 |
| Kilos | is it necessary? | 16:33 |
| Trixar_za | Not unless you plan to block connections | 16:33 |
| Kilos | doesnt a firewall block all incoming anyway? | 16:34 |
| kbmonkey | good evening fine people of the irc | 16:41 |
| Kilos | hi there kbmonkey | 16:41 |
| Private_User | ok back | 17:05 |
| Private_User | now I think I am getting closer | 17:05 |
| Private_User | I can now create a mobile broadband connection and I see Nokia Datacard as a device to select from which I will connect | 17:07 |
| Private_User | however | 17:07 |
| Private_User | it does not connect | 17:07 |
| Private_User | ideas? | 17:07 |
| superfly | what's the log? | 17:16 |
| kbmonkey | ah darn missed them | 17:16 |
| kbmonkey | wb Private_User | 17:18 |
| Private_User | damn connectivity issues again... grrr... | 17:19 |
| Private_User | thanks kbmonkey | 17:19 |
| kbmonkey | after try connect check if 'dmesg | tail' gives any hints to errors | 17:19 |
| === Rynofear is now known as Rynomster | ||
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 18:55 |
| inetpro | good night kil[tab] | 19:09 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:09 |
| inetpro | good evening everyone | 19:09 |
| superfly | hi inetpro | 19:20 |
| inetpro | hi superfly, you better now? | 19:21 |
| superfly | inetpro: mostly | 19:22 |
| inetpro | ahh, that sounds positive at least | 19:22 |
| inetpro | back at work yet? | 19:22 |
| inetpro | superfly: I see you upgraded to 14.04. Anything interesting? | 19:25 |
| superfly | new versions of software :-D | 19:25 |
| superfly | yeah, back at work, was only off for 3 days | 19:25 |
| inetpro | lol | 19:26 |
| inetpro | ok | 19:26 |
| * inetpro has not been following much of the development process for a while now | 19:28 | |
| superfly | me neither, really | 19:29 |
| superfly | new versions of KDevelop, etc | 19:29 |
| inetpro | cool | 19:29 |
| inetpro | at least development is still happening | 19:30 |
| inetpro | we had a very nice presentation and baseline proposal for RHEV this week | 20:02 |
| inetpro | was done by Sven Lesicnik from LSD | 20:03 |
| inetpro | these guys run massive RHEV infrastructure all over the show | 20:04 |
| superfly | yeah, the LSD guys seem quite switched on | 20:05 |
| inetpro | looks very interesting... not yet sure whether we'll go that route though | 20:06 |
| inetpro | KVM looks very powerful indeed | 20:07 |
| inetpro | anyone here recommend anything other than KVM for VM? | 20:08 |
| superfly | inetpro: Xen | 20:13 |
| superfly | The plus side of xen is that it doesn't use disk images, so resizing a "disk" is really easy | 20:13 |
| inetpro | I must be honest I haven't played with Xen at all | 20:13 |
| superfly | I haven't much either, but I know Linode uses Xen | 20:14 |
| superfly | I was able to resize my disk on Xen without losing any data | 20:14 |
| inetpro | you can't do that with KVM? | 20:15 |
| inetpro | wish I had time to setup a lab and play with all the different options | 20:16 |
| inetpro | just wish more people would see the light and realise that there are so many powerful tools out there to play with for free | 20:17 |
| inetpro | can't believe that I have been somewhat against the idea of running a full VM environment for such a long time | 20:20 |
| superfly | inetpro: No, KVM has disk files, Xen just uses a directory on your hard drive (if my information is correct) | 20:32 |
| superfly | I think you have to create an entire new disk with KVM if you want a bigger disk | 20:32 |
| superfly | I stand under correction though | 20:32 |
| inetpro | superfly: looks like it is possible | 20:35 |
| inetpro | How to resize virtual machine disk? http://askubuntu.com/questions/107228/how-to-resize-virtual-machine-disk | 20:35 |
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