[00:00] <Alue> just the text.
[00:00] <litropy> Alue, do you remember your login info?
[00:00] <litropy> chan: is startx still valid for Ubuntu?
[00:01] <Alue> yeah. I have logged in. now it says last login...,and welcome to Ubuntu....,documentation.....,
[00:02] <litropy> Alue, okay. now, try startx
[00:02] <litropy> Alue, type startx then hit enter.
[00:03] <|jemc|> I've been told ubuntu doesn't use the "vanilla" kernel by default - how do I install and use the "vanilla" kernel instead on my desktop?
[00:04] <|jemc|> current uname -a is:
[00:04] <|jemc|> Linux jemc 3.11.0-19-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 11 18:48:34 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:04] <Alue> okay done.i have got the cursor blinking after - checking battery status... And a couple of OK on the extreme right hand side.
[00:04] <TJ-> |jemc|: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[00:04] <litropy> Alue, okay, let me know if anything doesn't say OK
[00:06] <litropy> Alue, note: you could have tried another sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade beofre startx, but I just want to see what happens when you try to load your graphics environment.
[00:06] <Alue> I have connected the power plug. And my battery is on.but there is no progress after - checking battery status...
[00:06] <litropy> beofre*
[00:06] <|jemc|> TJ-: thanks
[00:07] <litropy> Alue, do you know what I mean when I say, "Text cursor" ?
[00:07] <Alue> yeah
[00:08] <litropy> Alue, is there anything to the left of your text cursor?
[00:08] <Alue> no
[00:08] <Alue> the cursor it at extreme lower left.
[00:09] <litropy> Alue, it seems you need to reinstall your graphics drivers. Give me a sec.
[00:09] <Alue> there is still no progress to checking battery status...
[00:10] <litropy> Alue, there won't be.
[00:10] <litropy> Alue, hang on
[00:11] <Alue> ???
[00:12] <litropy> Alue, press [CTRL]+[ALT]+[F2]. It should bring you to a command prompt
[00:13] <litropy> Alue, if it doesn't, press [CTRL]+[ALT]+[Fn]+[F2]
[00:14] <Alue> no there's nothing happening. my screen is stuck at checking battery status.
[00:17] <litropy> Alue, alrighty. Welp, I'm guessing in updating, you also updated your graphics drivers or xorg.conf, and now it's borked. Give me a bit and I'll find some things for you to try. Other chan members, feel free to chime in. Alue is running 12.04.
[00:18] <Alue> but what about my screen??? it's still stuck at checking battery status.
[00:20] <litropy> Alue, it's done checking battery status. The next step is loading your video driver, and it's hung on that step.
[00:20] <Alue> okay.
[00:20] <Alue> I am waiting
[00:22] <euryale> Is there aimp3 version for linux??
[00:26] <litropy> Alue, what is the make and model of your computer?
[00:27] <litropy> euryale, not made by that company, no.
[00:28] <Alue> dell,1tb hd,6gb ram,2gb graphics, intel i5.
[00:28] <litropy> Alue, I need the model number, please
[00:29] <litropy> Alue, something like Inspirion 2000
[00:29] <Ri221> Hello. I have a swap file configured as a test. Why is the swap memory used although only 1GB of my 8GB RAM is used?
[00:29] <euryale> ok thanks litropy. is there similar player for ubuntu ?
[00:30] <habanany> cant access ubuntu partition folders from mint dual boot
[00:30] <Alue> it's dell inspiron 15-3537
[00:30] <litropy> euryale, I've been thinking about that ever since you asked your initial question. I'm not aware of one ... I use VLC, which is great, but it's basic.
[00:30] <litropy> Alue, hang on
[00:31] <Player> I would say VLC's basic, it's got a very nice/sophisticated EQ
[00:31] <Player> I like it's 2-pass mode.
[00:31] <litropy> euryale, as far as its interface goes. VLC is a powerhouse under the hood.
[00:31] <litropy> Player, hah you're ahead of me - I was just about to check if it had a GUI EQ.
[00:32] <litropy> Alue, I'm checking your model's credentials
[00:32] <habanany> meant to say i cant access folders in ubuntu from linuxmint partition on adual boot
[00:32] <Alue> okay, I'm waiting.
[00:33]  * litropy 's blown internal hard drive is trying to initialize again. Poor thing.
[00:34] <litropy> habanany, what error do you get?
[00:36]  * litropy 's internal HD is making horrible tiny monster sounds of whining death
[00:37] <Nytram> litropy,  back-up asap
[00:37] <litropy> Nytram, I did. And then I left it in there to hear it die.
[00:38] <Nytram> lol
[00:38] <Nytram> Sadist
[00:38] <Player> litropy : yeah it's got a sophisticated EQ (especially compared to a CAR), compressor, and spatializer
[00:38] <Player> I'd say the only feature it lacks that I really wish it didn't would be gapless playback, or even the option of having cheap cross fades between tracks
[00:38] <litropy> Alue, please follow this guide. On step 5, follow for AMD/ATI: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[00:41] <Nytram> I threw a 'dead' hdd (wouldn't partition or accept a new partition table) into a new PC for a laugh and a play. Win XP, Arch, Manjaro, opensuse, Mint and ubuntu could not install to it. Kubuntu did and didn't even flinch in the process. I need to think about that one. oO
[00:43] <litropy> Player, VLC is open-source. I'm just armchairing, but it shouldn't take much to load a file into buffer for instant playback, nor play consecutive audio streams for crossfading. I'll look into it.
[00:44] <litropy> Nytram, that's strange. Of all flavors ...
[00:44] <litropy> O
[00:44] <TJ-> Nytram: Was there a cold start before the Kubuntu installer session but only warm reboots for the others?
[00:45] <TJ-> Nytram: I've seen hard disks get into a confused state like that which a power-off reset has cured
[00:45] <Nytram> Nope, I did cold and warm at least three attempts on ALL distros.
[00:45] <Nytram> I was 'testing' afterall.
[00:46] <Nytram> I'm loath to try one of the other distros again now, just in case it breaks again LOL
[00:46] <Nytram> It was a throw away play thing for the afternoon, but now it's going to be my multimedia system in my gym. 8)
[00:49] <litropy> Nytram, until it spontaneously corrupts, sending full-volume corrupted audio straight through your speaker cones :P
[00:50] <litropy> One more time for this question:
[00:50] <litropy> When I click the time in the upper-right, the calendar shows, and that's a good thing because I like to use a calendar. But why on earth is a different day highlighted as opposed to the current day? I understand this is for selecting days to "Add an event", but the current day has no special indicator at all. So if I were to briefly look at my calendar, I would think it's April 11th. April 10th has no highlight, no marker of any kind.
[00:50] <litropy> 13.10
[00:51] <litropy> date output: Thu Apr 10 20:51:37 EDT 2014
[00:55] <DrFoo> How do I set my dns with nmcli?
[00:56] <litropy> DrFoo, I don't think there's an option
[00:56] <DrFoo> litropy: How do I set my DNS from the command line?
[00:57] <daftykins> DrFoo: you may find this useful https://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[00:57] <litropy> DrFoo, yep, nmcli is just for radio connections.
[00:58] <litropy> DrFoo, scratch that -- physical connections.
[01:01] <slinkeey> Hello
[01:01] <DrFoo> Can someone give me an example of an /etc/networking/interfaces entry with a DNS specified?
[01:02] <slinkeey> You are going to think that I am full of it, but for some reason my Touchpad pointer device worked better under Mint...  Are there tips for getting it to work nicer in Ubuntu?
[01:02] <slinkeey> I think it might be because Mint allowed me to play with the sensitivity, and not just the speed.
[01:02] <gvo> DrFoo http://paste.ubuntu.com/7233057/
[01:03] <rubito> dos anyone know of any C++ chat rooms?
[01:04] <xutl> how to add a ppa offline ?
[01:04] <gvo> rubito: There are multiple ones on freenode.
[01:04] <xutl> !ppa
[01:04] <xutl> !ppa-purge
[01:04] <xutl> !ppa-offline
[01:04] <rubito> gvo: could you point me in the direction of one? I've never used irc before
[01:05] <gvo> What client are you using rubito?
[01:05] <rubito> I downloaded xchat and I'm currently installing quassel
[01:06] <gvo> You should be able to search the available channels somehow.  Just look for c++
[01:06] <xutl> how to add a ppa offline ?
[01:07] <xutl> !ppa
[01:07] <xutl> !ppa-purge
[01:07] <rubito> How do you search for channels?
[01:07] <gvo> That depends on the client
[01:08] <rubito> I'm using xchat
[01:08] <gvo> I don't use nor do I know anything about xchat.  Poke around the menus.
[01:09] <teaearlgraycold> So I've got a C++ question. #C++ is throwing me into #Overflow. Does a class destructor need to explicitely clear all private variables?
[01:09] <DrFoo> should I have an iface entry next to eth0
[01:10] <rubito> Ok, I found a way to look for channels!
[01:10] <rubito> Thanks dudes!
[01:11] <xutl> how to add a ppa offline ?
[01:11] <litropy> rubito, #c++
[01:11] <rubito> I went into ##c++
[01:11] <TJ-> teaearlgraycold: define "clear" ? You want to ensure they can't be read after their memory allocation has been freed?
[01:12] <litropy> rubito, that's the place :-)
[01:13] <rubito> litropy, awesome!
[01:13] <teaearlgraycold> TJ-: I don't think that's necessary. I'm writing my first class and I'm told that I need to have a destructor. I assume that I need to clear the variable. Is that proper form?
[01:15] <TJ-> teaearlgraycold: Not usually. The destructor usually frees up manually allocated memory, and will 'zero' or randomise the values of memory blocks and variables before release so that other processes can't inadvertently access the values
[01:15] <litropy> teaearlgraycold, a destructor for the class? That would be ~myclass(); I'm pretty sure
[01:16] <TJ-> teaearlgraycold: If you're not doing any manual allocation of memory, or managing your own file handles, then generally a default destructor is all that is needed
[01:16] <teaearlgraycold> litropy: yeah I have that already. I've manually cleared a private vector but there are a few private strings as well.
[01:17] <litropy> teaearlgraycold, are you using std lib?
[01:17] <teaearlgraycold> TJ-: so I can have it pretty much blank?
[01:17] <teaearlgraycold> litropy: no
[01:17] <TJ-> teaearlgraycold: See http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/destructor
[01:17] <teaearlgraycold> 21:11 -!- Yatekii [~Yatekii@188.12.24.31.ftth.as8758.net] has joined #reddit-buildapc
[01:17] <teaearlgraycold> 21:11 < Firebolt1914> ,ac uhdoy
[01:18] <teaearlgraycold> Oh, that's a mistake
[01:18] <litropy> teaearlgraycold, for instance, in Qt, I need to kill timers and delete ui in my MainWindow destructor. So it depends on the lib, I'd say.
[01:19] <teaearlgraycold> Okay, thanks for your help.
[01:19] <xar-> how do I upgrade *ONLY* openssl via apt-get ?
[01:20] <teaearlgraycold> xar-: you mean without upgradeing openssl's dependancies or whatever?
[01:20] <Bray90820_> So for the life of me i can't get my screen to wake wake even after i restart
[01:20] <litropy> teaearlgraycold, you can always do an if (whatever) std::cout << "It still exists!" << endl; to test it..
[01:20] <xar-> I only want to pull in openssl related packages, not anything else.
[01:23] <teaearlgraycold> xar-: do you not want to just sudo apt-get install openssl
[01:23] <xar-> that might work, let me try
[01:23] <teaearlgraycold> xar-: that's what I just ran and it updated my openssl installation
[01:24] <xar-> libssl-devel needs to be in there too
[01:24] <xar-> thanks
[01:24] <teaearlgraycold> I guess this is about the heartbleed thing
[01:25] <apb1963>  12.04... I have a USB speakerphone... there's a popup when I plug it in indicating that the device is apparently recognized... but, I get no sound out of it (nor does the mic. seem to work).  It's a Kinyo ArtDio "True USB VoIP Speaker" model SS-100/SS-100B Any ideas on how to get this to work??
[01:25] <xar-> teaearlgraycold: indeed
[01:26] <teaearlgraycold> apb1963: open up alsa sound manager or your audio manager of choice
[01:26] <teaearlgraycold> Make sure the output device is enabled
[01:26] <xar-> most of the servers I've patched in the last 48 hours are Red Hat, not Debian/Ubuntu, so dpkg is just "weird"
[01:26] <Bray90820_> So for the life of me i can't get my screen to wake even after i restart the computer
[01:26] <litropy> teaearlgraycold, xar - thanks for that - I didn't know.
[01:26] <xar-> litropy: yw
[01:27] <xar-> updating ALL packages on a production server is sloppy; performing a blanket apt-get update/upgrade is downright wreckless.
[01:27] <gvo> apb1963: Right click on the speaker in the system tray if you have one.  You may see a sound preferences display.  You may have to select the hardware/input/outut, etc.
[01:27] <SamwiseGamgee> Does anyone know how to use Trinity Rescue Kit?
[01:27] <teaearlgraycold> xar-: Oh god, that would be horrible
[01:28] <xar-> litropy: you need to restart services once you are done updating libssl; use `lsof` to check what's running.
[01:28] <teaearlgraycold> You can kiss your sweet sweet uptime goodbye
[01:28] <xar-> it's not really about server uptime, it's about application instability
[01:29] <b0t> Hello, I'm trying for hours with irc bot in unreal, I can not fix this error
[01:29] <b0t> https://dpaste.de/AJRS
[01:29] <xar-> an update to libcurl for example, won't bring a server down, but it might break a customer's application and/or dependency.
[01:30] <apb1963> teaearlgraycold: any device in particular?  I'm using alsamixer
[01:30] <apb1963> gvo: I don't see any speaker icon
[01:30] <gvo> Unity?
[01:31] <apb1963> teaearlgraycold: gvo: I do get sound, just not through that device.
[01:31] <teaearlgraycold> apb1963: there should be a list of devices, pick one with the appropriate name. I can't say for certain though. You're on 12.04, right?
[01:31] <apb1963> gvo: xfce
[01:31] <apb1963> teaearlgraycold: yes
[01:31] <b0t> https://dpaste.de/AJRS
[01:31] <b0t> Hello, I'm trying for hours with irc bot in unreal, I can not fix this error
[01:32] <apb1963> teaearlgraycold: "phone" seems to be appropriate.... I cranked it up... I don't hear anything
[01:32] <xar-> !whoopsie
[01:32] <xar-> the heck is whoopsie, i see a whoopsie proc linked against an old openssl -_-
[01:32] <litropy> xar-, thx
[01:33] <Bray90820_> So for the life of me i can't get my screen to wake when it goes to sleep the black screen persists even after i restart the computer
[01:33] <xar-> ah it's some canonical nonsense le sigh
[01:33] <xutl> how to add a ppa offline ?
[01:34] <gvo> apb1963: You might try pavucontrol
[01:34] <xutl> !ppa
[01:34] <gvo> I've sometimes had good luck configuring sound with that app.
[01:35] <xutl> !addppa
[01:35] <fdafweaf> xar-, whoopsie is bug reporting
[01:35] <xutl> !ppa-purge
[01:35] <xar-> fdafweaf: thanks, yea I googled it
[01:36] <xar-> whoopsie was linked against the compromised openssl, cool stuff
[01:39] <xar-> litropy: `lsof -n | grep ssl | grep DEL`
[01:39] <xar-> litropy: as root; it'll tell you what you need to respond to
[01:39] <xar-> I see so many posts about restarting servers...
[01:39] <apb1963> gvo: :  Fatal Error: Unable to connect to PulseAudio: OK
[01:39]  * xar- facepalm.
[01:40] <gvo> You might not be running PulseAudio.  Try alsamixer then.
[01:41] <litropy> xar-, wouldn't a reboot after upgrading openssl do the trick?
[01:41] <apb1963> gvo: Yes... did that... it has a bunch of devices....  I cranked up everything that looks like an output
[01:42] <gvo> apb1963: Select the card with the F6
[01:42] <gvo> Then play with the controls.
[01:43] <gvo> You may have to run an application that understands multiple devices and select the device in that app, too.
[01:46] <apb1963> gvo: such as?
[01:48] <gvo> apb1963: I don't do a lot with sound beyond some very specialize apps, so I'm not the best one to say.  I know aplay has a way to select devices.
[01:49] <apb1963> gvo: Up until a few minutes ago I had sound coming through my sound card... not sure what I did but now I don't even get that anymore.
[01:49] <gvo> apb1963: Means you did select a different device somehow.
[01:50] <apb1963> gvo: It may have been the F6... but I put it back to the default where it was... and still no joy
[01:50] <gvo> As long as you didn't select something F6 shouldn't have had any effect.
[01:50] <gvo> How many devices did you see?
[01:50] <apb1963> gvo: I did select... my USB from/through F6
[01:51] <gvo> OK but when you went back to default it doesn't work.  Check your levels and make sure it isn't muted.
[01:51] <apb1963> gvo: then I put it back to default... which didn't help... and also changed it to the only other device Intel ICH6
[01:51] <apb1963> doublechecking....
[01:53] <john2x_> When I log in to my server, it says "You have new mail". WHere can find these mail?
[01:54] <apb1963> gvo: If I mute the headphone device, then I get my sound back
[01:54] <apb1963> gvo: Odd... but true
[01:54] <gvo> apb1963: Either or I guess.
[01:55] <apb1963> gvo: sound back through sound card
[01:55] <apb1963> gvo: usb device still not working.. but let me play a bit
[01:56] <gvo> apb1963: It's been my experience that sound cards are a bit tricky to get going.  The more tools you have the better off you are.
[01:57] <gvo> apb1963: Search for "debugging sound problems" and you'll see multiple pages with hints and tips.
[01:57] <apb1963> gvo: yes... far too many... I don't know what applies
[01:58] <gvo> Start with the "Ubuntu" ones.
[01:59] <apb1963> gvo: that's what I was actually referring to
[01:59] <xar-> litropy: sure, but it's overkill
[01:59] <xar-> litropy: you only need to restart the services using openssl
[01:59] <litropy> xar-, thx
[01:59] <xar-> litropy: use the lsof command to identify what services need restarting
[02:01] <john2x_> do I need to install apache for sendmail?
[02:02] <xar-> no
[02:02] <xar-> try to install sendmail, it will tell you what dependencies it has
[02:02] <john2x_> I've installed sendmail and ran sendmailconfig, but I can't seem to send any emails
[02:02] <xar-> so what does the mail log say?
[02:03] <mapp> how can i cut the 2nd line of an output ..trying to get part of nslookup
[02:04] <xar-> mapp: why are you using nslookup?
[02:04] <xar-> mapp: and not dig?
[02:04] <mapp> hmm
[02:04] <xar-> nslookup is so 2001 :P
[02:04] <mapp> not sure really..it was just to be able to get the value of a hostname and store it in a variable
[02:04] <mapp> i think it'd be even harder to get the ip from dig outut though
[02:04] <mapp> outpyt
[02:04] <mapp> *output argh
[02:05] <xar-> mapp: man dig; look at +short
[02:05] <mapp> oke:) ta
[02:05] <xar-> mapp: example: dig @8.8.8.8 www.google.com +short
[02:06] <john2x_> xar-: here are the last couple of lines of mail.log https://www.refheap.com/74729 (no errors in mail.err)
[02:06] <mapp> aha
[02:06] <mapp> thats a lot easier hey
[02:06] <mapp> the result it returns is easier to assign to a var saves me using grep and cut etc
[02:07] <xar-> john2x_: I'm assuming your domain has been redacted? gsmtp says it received it, looks fine to me
[02:07] <xar-> mapp: yup
[02:07] <john2x_> xar-: yes, redacted. which line is it?
[02:08] <john2x_> ah line 4?
[02:08] <xar-> john2x_: doesn't matter, gsmtp says it has it, did you look in spam?
[02:08] <xar-> OK 1397181627 mx10si5254739icb.140 - gsmtp
[02:08] <john2x_> xar-: ah yes, it's in spam :) thanks
[02:08] <mapp> xar- quick question..how could i cut say the 2nd line of an output? say i ran nslookup frogs.zapto.org | grep Address | - im going to use dig +short way better but m still interested
[02:09] <xar-> john2x_: you're welcome.
[02:09] <mapp> how would i be able to get say the second line and then cut it
[02:10] <gvo> nslookup xxx|head -2| tail -1
[02:10] <mapp> Thanks so i need to read on head
[02:10] <mapp> thanks gvo
[02:10] <xar-> mapp: lots of ways, but easiest dirty way? $ nslookup frogs.zapto.org | grep Address | tail -n1 | awk '{print $2}'
[02:10] <mapp> ah ok i was wondering on awk too, just been reading up on it
[02:10] <mapp> whats sed used for?
[02:11] <xar-> stream editing; but this channel is ubuntu support, not linux tutorial.
[02:11] <xar-> best to go to #ubuntu-offtopic or #linux
[02:11] <mapp> yea, sorry
[02:11] <xar-> np :)
[02:11] <mapp> :)
[02:12] <gvo> Make that ##linux
[02:12] <john2x_> what's a good guide on setting up a private proxy server on Ubuntu (on EC2)? I found one that uses tinyproxy, is this good?
[02:12] <xar-> gvo: it should redirect to the proper destination ;)
[02:12] <gvo> OK
[02:12] <xar-> john2x_: if you have ssh listening presumably, tunnel over ssh.
[02:15] <pnorman> I have a slightly odd graphical problem on my laptop running 13.04. Most text isn't displaying, including anything on the top of windows. Neither are any icons for closing windows. Some is however, including XTerm, all the text under activities, and everything off of the top bar.
[02:15] <xar-> sounds bad
[02:15] <pnorman> I'm slightly befuddled. I haven't used the laptop in a bit so I'm running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, but on airport wifi it'll take another 7 minutes
[02:15] <MrSelfDestruct> Yeah
[02:16] <john2x_> xar-: hmm I want it so anyone (non-technical people) in the office can easily use it.. (I heard there are browser extensions to do that?)
[02:16] <xar-> john2x_: perhaps a more integrated solution, openvpn for instance?
[02:16] <rictoo> hey guys, i would like to grep one file for a list of things to grep another file for. how would i go about doing this?
[02:16] <rictoo> i have this so far: grep "succinate-CoA ligase, ADP-forming, beta" GPL2004-3450.txt | awk '{print $1}'
[02:17] <rictoo> i would like to take the outputs of this (about 10 lines) and grep another file for each of those
[02:17] <xar-> john2x_: if you have a decent cisco hardware firewall at AWS, you can use the cisco vpn features too *shrug*
[02:17] <MrSelfDestruct> #Ubuntu today: Bash and Bash and Bash...
[02:18] <pnorman> rictoo: I'd probably suggest #grep. If I were doing it I'd proably do grep | xargs grep, but I dunno if that's optimal
[02:21] <pnorman> Also, the XTerm application works but Terminal doesn't
[02:22] <ice9> I see this line "test -e /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key || dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server"  in /etc/rc.local, what does it do?
[02:23] <chicognu> so, after i boot up wifi conects automatic. Great. But i cant browser anything before I reconnect
[02:24] <__paleo__> In order to patch heartbleed in an Ubuntu webserver, do I need to upgrade only OpenSSL or do I need to upgrade nginx and Apache as well?
[02:24] <xar-> __paleo__: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[02:25] <__paleo__> xar-: so if I upgrade OpenSSL (which I already did) and restart nginx/Apache, I am safe?
[02:26] <xar-> __paleo__: not necessarily; *any* service linked against the bad openssl version needs to be restarted.
[02:26] <__paleo__> OK, but I don't need to upgrade nginx if OpenSSL is at the 1.0.1g level on Ubuntu, correct?
[02:26] <xar-> __paleo__: if you suspect leakage, you should toss your old private keys and regenerate.
[02:26] <__paleo__> We'll do that.
[02:27] <xar-> If nginx has open processes linked against openssl, prior to your update, it needs to be restarted.
[02:27] <litropy> xar-, we should get an OP to update the MOTD with that link.
[02:27] <xar-> we should get people to *READ*
[02:27] <xar-> how about that? lol
[02:27] <trism> ice9: that just checks if your ssh host key exists and if not regenerates it and then restarts sshd
[02:27] <apb1963> gvo: For the record, alsa -l lists my device as: card 1: Set [C-Media USB Headphone Set], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[02:28] <pnorman> I see the topic says 12.10 and 13.10 are supported. Is 13.04 EOL?
[02:28] <xar-> pnorman: 13.04 was EOL on Jan 2014
[02:29] <pnorman> When is 12.10 EOL?
[02:29] <xar-> pnorman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:29] <xar-> it's all right there, in a nice pretty chart
[02:29] <litropy> pnorman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:29] <Beldar> pnorman, 12.10 this month, 13.04 has no support in general.
[02:30] <pnorman> xar-: The above text problem includes text in browsers
[02:32] <xar-> I have a short term irc memory pnorman ;)
[02:33] <AcidRain2012> im running multiple monitors. how do i make it so when i click on a certain icon, that window will open on the desktop that i opened it on
[02:34] <xar-> wishful thinking AcidRain2012 :)
[02:34] <litropy> AcidRain2012, it depends on what you're opening
[02:34] <Atrophied> Anyone know how to get proprietary drivers for amd working on 12.04?
[02:34] <AcidRain2012> litropy, i want it to apply to EVERYTHING
[02:34] <AcidRain2012> if i open dolphin on monitor 1. i want it to do it
[02:35] <AcidRain2012> if i open dolphin on monitor 2. i wnat it to happen
[02:35] <pnorman> What's the command for updating major versions from the command line?
[02:36] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: How many X screens?
[02:36] <xar-> pnorman: if you can avoid doing it that way, I would; a good old-fashioned re-install is good for soul.
[02:36] <phao> Hi. If I just want to play an oga file on the terminal, is there any program to do it?
[02:36] <usr13> pnorman: do-release-upgrade
[02:36] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: If you're using multiple X screens you can use the DISPLAY=:0.1 env var prefix, or for many GUI applications the "-display 0:0.1" form
[02:36] <phao> This is to implement a simple alarm script here.
[02:37] <litropy> phao, check out cvlc, part of vlc.
[02:37] <phao> thanks.
[02:37] <usr13> pnorman: Are you LTS?
[02:37] <phao> worked litropy
[02:37] <phao> thanks.
[02:38] <pnorman> xar-: I'm at an airport without a working web browser or 2nd computer, a ubuntu reinstall is probably beyond what I can do before the flight
[02:38] <litropy> phao, yw
[02:40] <pnorman> usr13: not on the laptop. 14.04 is LTS I think, so odds are I'll be moving to LTS. running do-release-upgrade
[02:40] <usr13> pnorman: You will more-than-likely need to change update-manager to lts
[02:41] <usr13> pnorman: What version do you have now?
[02:41] <pnorman> well, for 14.04 I'll do a reinstall
[02:41] <pnorman> 13.04
[02:42] <usr13> pnorman: You'll be goint to 13.10
[02:42] <usr13> *going*
[02:43] <usr13> pnorman: You can do it again later for 14.04
[02:44] <AcidRain2012> tj, where do i do that at?
[02:47] <stochastic> hey all, last night I was mucking about with my dhcp and interface config files in an attempt to get a PXE boot working (ended up giving up on the task).  Now today after a reboot my internet is being exceedingly slow.  Can anyone help me get back to default settings?  I'm on 12.04
[02:48] <usr13> stochastic: What did you do?
[02:48] <usr13> stochastic: Did you change nameserver?
[02:49] <stochastic> usr13 possibly - I was honestly mucking about too much to know all the things I changed.  How can I tell if I've changed my nameserver?
[02:50] <stochastic> I really was just following various out-of-date PXE tutorials
[02:50] <usr13> stochastic: Look at network-manager
[02:51] <stochastic> usr13 the gnome applet?  or is there a specific command?
[02:52] <usr13> stochastic: Did you change the router?
[02:52] <stochastic> usr13 all my changes were software - I think of a router as the box on the ground (I'm not terribly good at network setup/config)
[02:53] <usr13> stochastic: nm-tool | tail -n 8
[02:54] <usr13> stochastic: Or just nm-tool to see all
[02:54] <lux_> hello
[02:54] <usr13> lux_: Hello
[02:54] <stochastic> usr13,  nm-tool | tail -n 8    IPv4 Settings:    Address:         192.168.1.68    Prefix:          24 (255.255.255.0)    Gateway:         192.168.1.254   DNS:             192.168.1.254
[02:55] <usr13> stochastic: route -n
[02:55] <lux_> i have a question
[02:55] <stochastic> lux_, ask!
[02:55] <stochastic> question!
[02:56] <stochastic> usr13, Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[02:56] <stochastic> 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.254   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 wlan0
[02:56] <stochastic> 169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0
[02:56] <stochastic> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[02:56] <stochastic> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     2      0        0 wlan0
[02:56] <unopaste> stochastic you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[02:56] <lux_> how do you know your ubuntu installation is at the beginning of the partition? or how do you move it there in gparted?
[02:56] <usr13> !paste | stochastic
[02:57] <usr13> stochastic: iwconfig |pastebinit
[02:57] <stochastic> usr13, I would use paste.ubuntu.com but my network is taking about 7 minutes to just load the page.
[02:58] <usr13> stochastic: iwconfig |pastebinit
[02:58] <alesan> hi
[02:58]  * stochastic is waiting for paste.ubuntu.com to load usr13  *please standby*
[02:58] <usr13> stochastic: iwconfig   #Look at it yourself, see what the signal report is.
[02:58] <alesan> how do I stop ubuntu to write random things in /etc/resolv.conf ? like nameserver 127.0.0.1
[03:00] <usr13> iwconfig |grep Quality=
[03:00] <usr13> stochastic:  ^^^^^^^  You can just paste the last line here.
[03:00] <stochastic> usr13, lo and eth0 both have no wireless connections - wlan0 has my usual wireless stuff with the Quality line reading:  Link Quality=70/70  Signal level=-39 dBm
[03:01] <stochastic> but I'm currently using a wired connection because wireless doesn't seem to be connected to the router.
[03:02] <stochastic> usr13, or should I say the gui thinks it's connected but pages don't load in web browsers unless my eth0 is connected
[03:03] <usr13> stochastic: You really need to just look at the complete output and decide what the problem is. See: http://www.linuxcommand.org/man_pages/iwconfig8.html
[03:04] <devhost> So I'm trying to start dwm through lightdm but it kicks me out the moment I log in. This is ubuntu 12.04, dwm-6.0.
[03:05] <devhost> Running dwm through startx on tty1 fails with xinit: connection to X server lost.
[03:05] <stochastic> usr13 nothing looks off from iwconfig - I think it's lower level than that (DHCP server stuff)  This line is the closest to anything wrong in iwconfig:   Tx excessive retries:2  Invalid misc:257   Missed beacon:0
[03:06] <usr13> stochastic: host av.com  #See how it  resolves.
[03:06] <usr13> stochastic: or if it does...
[03:06] <usr13> stochastic: Maybe you just need to power-cycle your router?
[03:07] <stochastic> usr13, I get three IP addresses, one error line ";; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet." then two lines that describe it as being hosted by yahoo.com
[03:07] <stochastic> usr13, others on the network can access the internet just fine.
[03:08] <usr13> stochastic: Well, if you'd use pastebinit, we could look with you....
[03:08] <stochastic> usr13, but the pastebin website won't load - it keeps timing out
[03:09] <usr13> stochastic: tcpdump wlan0
[03:09] <stochastic> usr13, tcpdump: no suitable device found
[03:09] <usr13> stochastic: tcpdump -t wlan0
[03:10] <stochastic> usr13, ^^ same error message
[03:10] <stochastic> usr13, also get the same error with tcpdump eth0
[03:11] <usr13> stochastic: And Ctrl-c to stop it, scroll up and look for anomaly
[03:11] <usr13> schultza: sudo tcpdump -t wlan0
[03:12] <stochastic> usr13, it doesn't continue running (no ctrl+c needed to stop, it stops immediately) and the sudo command does the same but with the following error: tcpdump: syntax error
[03:12] <sprung> So, i've used heartbleed.com to provide me with the supported versions of ubuntu's corresponding openssl versions, the oldest servers i have are still runninig 10.0.4 and it's not time to upgrade yet. do they have a vulnerable version?
[03:12] <usr13> stochastic: Well, don't know about that.
[03:13] <usr13> ping -c3 192.168.1.254
[03:13] <sprung> upgrading is on the roadmap but i need to know about the version for 10.0.4
[03:13] <usr13> stochastic: tell us your ping times.
[03:13] <sprung> the oldest supported, as you know, is 12.0.4
[03:14] <stochastic> usr13,  3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 1998ms,  average ping time=0.638 ms
[03:14] <usr13> stochastic:  Thats fine.  Now try this:
[03:14] <usr13> ping -c3 8.8.8.8
[03:15] <stochastic> usr13, 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2016ms
[03:15] <usr13> stochastic: What country are you in?
[03:15] <stochastic> Canada
[03:16]  * stochastic finally got a pastebin page to load.
[03:16] <stochastic> let me know if any command dumps are needed
[03:16] <usr13> stochastic: I just wanted you to use pastebinit
[03:17] <usr13> stochastic: sudo dhclient wlan0
[03:17] <stochastic> usr13, oh pastebinit isn't installed and apt-get isn't resolving servers
[03:19] <usr13> stochastic: sudo apt-get update
[03:19] <macscam1> i am having a hrd time booting from USB on this system so I cant install Ubuntu ... its running windows 8 now and EFI
[03:19] <usr13> stochastic: host us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:20] <usr13> stochastic: host ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:20] <usr13> stochastic: Is apt-get update doing anything?
[03:21] <usr13> stochastic: iptables -L
[03:23] <usr13> macscam1: Did you setup the USB drive properly for Ubuntu install?
[03:48] <wise_phone> Hello!  Umm, installed gnome 3 to try it out.  If i boot to unity via sudo service lightdm start i am greeted with the side bar and no trackpad input, sudo service gdm start greets me with a blank unresponsive screen.  Ideas?
[03:53] <wise_phone> :(
[03:54] <pvl1> wise_phone:
[03:54] <pvl1> you still there
[03:55] <wise_phone> Yup!
[03:55] <pvl1> so why isnt your DM loading automagically
[03:55] <pvl1> where are you entering to start the service
[03:55] <pvl1> and how did you install gnome 3
[03:55] <wise_phone> Im at tty1
[03:55] <pvl1> whts on tty7
[03:56] <wise_phone> I installed gnome through the repositories
[03:57] <wise_phone> Tty7 is gdm at a blank screen with an input cursor but unresponsive.
[03:57] <pvl1> ok
[03:57] <pvl1> kill it first
[03:57] <pvl1> then try to start whatever other service
[03:57] <wise_phone> Done
[03:57] <pvl1> wise_phone: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/gnome-3-8-ppa-for-ubuntu-gnome
[03:57] <pvl1> now try to start your DM
[03:59] <wise_phone> Started lightdm, all i see is unitys sidebar and notification panel, and an error window.
[04:00] <pvl1> whats the error say
[04:01] <wise_phone> System program problem detected//do you want to report.. Yes or no
[04:01] <wise_phone> I can navigate yes or no with tab.
[04:02] <pvl1> no mouse movement? or no mouse at all
[04:02] <wise_phone> No mouse at all, correct
[04:03] <wise_phone> Also, no wall paper.
[04:03] <pvl1> hm weird
[04:03] <wise_phone> Sudo apt-get install lightdm?
[04:03] <pvl1> get to tty1, killall the dm's
[04:03] <pvl1> and do
[04:03] <pvl1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[04:03] <pvl1> and
[04:04] <pvl1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:04] <pvl1> just to be sure
[04:04] <SonikkuAmerica> !nexus7
[04:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Uh, nope
[04:04] <pvl1> and does dmesg or syslog mention the mouse
[04:04] <SonikkuAmerica> !touch
[04:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !no nexus7 is <reply> The Ubuntu Nexus 7 installer has been discontinued. See !touch for for information about Ubuntu Touch.
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> SonikkuAmerica: tnx, well ive tested touch already, no other options to wait the future bring the stable touch
[04:06] <wise_phone> Ok, so killall -9 both gdm and light dm, ran dcfg which i was prompted for during install of gnome.
[04:07] <wise_phone> Should i choose gdm, i was chose lightdm last time
[04:08] <pvl1> wise_phone: the choice of DM shouldnt change anything in the end
[04:08] <pvl1> its merely a means to an ends
[04:11] <wise_phone> Ok i chose gdm... It went to gnome login screen fine, logged in, mouse worked for a second but other than a greyish background im in unity.
[04:11] <pvl1> wise_phone: why did you pick gnome 3
[04:12] <wise_phone> I just wanted to try it,
[04:12] <wise_phone> Purge?
[04:12] <pvl1> wise_phone: have you seen pictures of gnome 3? looks almost the same to me
[04:13] <pvl1> hm
[04:13] <wise_phone> I havent had a computer in five years, im a mtn biker and hunter but i hurt my leg and only like linux.
[04:14] <pvl1> !desktop | wise_phone
[04:14] <wise_phone> I have a big hdd too, so it couldnt hurt, so i thought.
[04:14] <pvl1> im really sorry to hear that wise_phone
[04:15] <pvl1> thats terrible. i too love biking. though im too broke to buy anything special
[04:15] <pvl1> might be going snowboarding in vermont this weekend tho
[04:15] <pvl1> wise_phone: 5 fivers. you want cinnamon or perhaps mate. they are gnome 2 forks
[04:15] <wise_phone> Pvl1 im in Invermere
[04:16] <pvl1> like how ubuntu used to be 5 years ago
[04:16] <pvl1> wise_phone: must be beautiful up there
[04:16] <wise_phone> Pvl1 so., sudo pat-get install cinnamon?
[04:17] <wise_phone> Pvl1 yeah, its nice scenery, lots of work too.
[04:17] <pvl1> wise_phone: im honestly not sure if its in the official repos. if you give me a minute, ill check
[04:17] <pvl1> what kind of work wise_phone
[04:19] <mis> hi
[04:19] <wise_phone> Im a mechanic, but the work for computer smart people is up to you.
[04:19] <mis> hello
[04:19] <wise_phone> People here mainly run old shitty windows 95 boxes..
[04:20] <chipotle> hi, i want to install php5-fpm on ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS. right now i have php5 installed. to do this, do i just do apt-get install php-fpm and i'll get the fpm version and the fastcgi version will be removed?
[04:20] <pvl1> wise_phone: i just finished tech school for hvac
[04:20] <wise_phone> Lots of point of sale machines at the pubs have tux on them :)
[04:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Well Tux can mean anything
[04:21] <pvl1> chipotle: whats the difference between fpm versus fastcgi... is fast cgi an apache module
[04:21] <monkwitdafunk> tux is the mascot for gnu linux. is that right
[04:21] <chipotle> pvl1: fastcgi is much slower; and yes, usually fastcgi is used with apache. i prefer nginx
[04:21] <SonikkuAmerica> monkwitdafunk: Just the mascot for Linux itself.
[04:22] <pvl1> wise_phone: methinks you want this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[04:23] <pvl1> chipotle: i kind of doubt itd remove the fastcgi. either way, there is a way to see what changes with apt
[04:23] <pvl1> but i dont remember what the command is or how to see changes
[04:23] <wise_phone> Pvl1 yeah hvac you can get work and own your own business out here, you could have your fittings and hoses and stuff in a shed and run your work out of a truck.  In hvac people are spread way to thin.
[04:24] <chipotle> what's the command to remove a program and its config files?
[04:24] <wise_phone> Cinnamon or -common or -dbg?
[04:25] <pvl1> wise_phone: just cinnamon
[04:25] <pvl1> chipotle: sudo apt-get purge program
[04:25] <wise_phone> I guess dbg is debug, And im not common, so, cinnamon, straight up?
[04:25] <chipotle> pvl1: thanks
[04:25] <pvl1> chipotle: np
[04:25] <pvl1> wise_phone: yes
[04:25] <pvl1> wise_phone: common is the common files neccessarry for the cinnamon system
[04:26] <pvl1> wise_phone: because you could just want their text editor
[04:26] <pvl1> rather than the whole system
[04:26] <pvl1> so they separate the system into parts
[04:26] <wise_phone> Oh i see.  I knew that i was just making a repository joke that wasnt very funny.
[04:27] <pvl1> oh
[04:27] <pvl1> lol
[04:27] <pvl1> actually that is kinda funny
[04:27] <pvl1> oh i forgot to look at mars
[04:28] <wise_phone> Mars the weird red thing?
[04:29] <pvl1> yup
[04:29] <wise_phone> Its real?
[04:31] <pvl1> yes you can see it in the sky right now
[04:31] <pvl1> on the 14 it will be the closest to earth in the last 22 years
[04:31] <wise_phone> Pvl1 to cloudy :/
[04:31] <pvl1> something something 22 years, something orbit, something 95 million kilometers, something something something
[04:32] <pvl1> well the 14th is the time youll see it best anyway
[04:32] <wise_phone> I'll turn my tellie to it :)
[04:33] <wise_phone> Curiosity has had some sweet pics though recently.
[04:35] <pvl1> i thought it was awesome how they got it to take a selfie
[04:35] <wise_phone> Ok, cinnamon is installed, how do i boot directly to it?
[04:36] <pvl1> do you mean without the login screen?
[04:36] <pvl1> you would make cinnamon your default, and enable autologin
[04:36] <dreamy_> do i have to decompress an iso to make it run , boot on a usb pen?
[04:36] <wise_phone> Plv1 that was the most awesome selfie in the universe!
[04:36] <pvl1> dreamy_: now
[04:36] <pvl1> wise_phone: literally!!
[04:36] <pvl1> dreamy_: *no
[04:36] <dreamy_> ill just copy it?
[04:37] <dreamy_> nice
[04:37] <dreamy_> i want to install ubuntu studio
[04:37] <pvl1> dreamy_: just use unetbootin
[04:38] <dreamy_> pvl1, i just got a pen, i lost systen on my second computer
[04:38] <dreamy_> pvl1, can i just copy the iso into the pen?
[04:38] <pvl1> dreamy_: but to answer your q, it doesnt exactly work the way you were thinking. for example, you were gonna ddecompress your iso to the usb. but idk if bios can read fat32 or ntfs
[04:38] <pvl1> lemme check dreamy_
[04:39] <wise_phone> Pvl1 now when i attempt to start either gdm or lightdm it says unredonized service :/
[04:39] <pvl1> wise_phone: how are you attempting
[04:40] <pvl1> dreamy_: seems bios is fat32
[04:40] <wise_phone> Well startx booted me to gnome3.10.
[04:41] <pvl1> dreamy_: however firstly, what system are you creating bootable usb
[04:41] <wise_phone> But i did sudo service start x      x being the dm
[04:42] <pvl1> wise_phone: what dm? cinnamon could have its own dm
[04:42] <pvl1> wise_phone: unless you removed lightdm or gdm, they should work
[04:42] <dreamy_> heres my situation, i got 2 pcs, one lost system, this one is the one im using im not capable of recording dvds at the moment so i need to recover the other pc
[04:42] <pvl1> one sec gonna throw a hoodie on to smoke a cig
[04:42] <dreamy_> im anxious about installing ubuntu studio
[04:43] <wise_phone> Its not displaying a login screen..
[04:43] <dreamy_> i play guitar
[04:43] <pvl1> i wish i continued learning guitar :(
[04:44] <pvl1> wise_phone what is it displaying
[04:44] <pvl1> dreamy_ what OS are we using
[04:44] <dreamy_> what if i put uneetboting on a pen?
[04:44] <dreamy_> an old ubuntu
[04:45] <pvl1> and I'm assuming we have internet
[04:45] <dreamy_> im my laptop
[04:45] <pvl1> no no no
[04:45] <pvl1> dreamy_
[04:45] <pvl1> unetbootin is an app
[04:45] <wise_phone> Pvl1 im in gnome3 without sound...
[04:45] <dreamy_> pvl1, we do, the other pc is connected with a network cable
[04:45] <pvl1> it automates this process
[04:45] <pvl1> of making bootable usb
[04:45] <pvl1> in fact
[04:46] <pvl1> u can use it to install ubuntu to a usb
[04:46] <pvl1> and use that as ur hd
[04:46] <pvl1> wise_phone check alsamixer
[04:46] <pvl1> from terminal
[04:46] <pvl1> aw balls it's cloudy
[04:47] <dreamy_> can we try it another way. it whould be too risky to use the boot loader of my only working pc, at the moment
[04:49] <wise_phone> Plv1 i can tab select alsamixer from terminal... But it does not exist.
[04:49] <dreamy_> pvl1, im gonna give it a shot
[04:49] <wise_phone> I tried to apt-get. No luck.
[04:50] <pvl1> what
[04:50] <pvl1> dreamy_ boot loader?
[04:51] <pvl1> dreamy_ unetbootin makes a bootable usb
[04:51] <pvl1> that's it
[04:52] <dreamy_> pvl1, could you help me find a ubuntu studio live cd, it will run on the pen
[04:52] <dreamy_> i got internet on the pc, cable
[04:52] <dreamy_> network
[04:53] <pvl1> dreamy_: thats fine... but you already have an ubuntu iso right... so why not just make a bootable usb from it
[04:53] <pvl1> wise_phone: sudo apt-get install ubuntu
[04:53] <pvl1> er
[04:53] <pvl1> wise_phone:
[04:53] <pvl1> alsa-utils
[04:53] <pvl1> is the package
[04:54] <dreamy_> pvl1, i just found out. it seems that the iso wont fit
[04:54] <wise_phone> Unable to locate
[04:54] <pvl1> wise_phone: hmmm
[04:54] <pvl1> sudo apt-get update
[04:55] <pvl1> dreamy_: what size usb you have
[04:55] <chipotle> best way to deal with this? i have several php5 packages installed, i want to install php-fpm and get rid of 'php5' from my ubuntu 12.0.4. LTS system. what's the best way to do this? should i remove php5 and every php5* program installed and then install php-fpm via aptitude and reinstall the other php5 apps i need, or someway else?
[04:56] <dreamy_> it says its 2g,  but it appears to have just 1.8, ive erased all the files on it
[04:56] <pvl1> chipotle: id ask in #linux
[04:56] <chipotle> ok
[04:56] <pvl1> dreamy_: ubuntu minimal
[04:56] <pvl1> !minimal | dreamy_
[04:57] <wise_phone> Pvl1 after apt-get update, still no music.
[04:57] <dreamy_> pvl1, id like to use that
[04:57] <pvl1> dreamy_: so download that iso
[04:57] <pvl1> wise_phone: try to install alsa-utils now
[04:57] <pvl1> this is weird
[04:57] <pvl1> wise_phone: may i pm you
[04:57] <dreamy_> can you tell me where to find it?
[04:58] <wise_phone> Pvl1 thats what i meant, tried three times.
[04:58] <wise_phone> Im doing a cold boot.
[04:58] <pvl1> dreamy_: h.o
[04:58] <pvl1> wise_phone: good idea at this point
[04:59] <pvl1> oh
[04:59] <pvl1> dreamy_:
[04:59] <pvl1> the link that ubottu gave you
[04:59] <pvl1> has the downloads
[04:59] <pvl1> and links to instructions on making a bootable usb
[05:02] <wise_phone> ,ahhhhh booted to the gdm with unity no responce from mouse, no sound.
[05:03] <wise_phone> ^pvl1
[05:04] <pvl1> wise_phone: what kind of mouse
[05:04] <dreamy_> the tuturial is a bot complicate :(
[05:05] <dreamy_> *bit
[05:05] <wise_phone> Pvl1 trackpad on a acer laptop
[05:05] <dreamy_> do i need root?
[05:06] <pvl1> dreamy_: maybe. i doubt it. ill help you. have you yet downloaded the iso
[05:07] <pvl1> wise_phone: lets first confirm sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[05:07] <RahulAN> I am using mate, By mistake i removed the pannel  on upside of screen which have the network interfaces and clock etc, how to bring it back?
[05:07] <pvl1> wise_phone: also try gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true
[05:08] <pvl1> RahulAN: ask in #mate
[05:08] <pvl1> RahulAN: because i cannot remember
[05:08] <dreamy_> pvl1, i just did, can you give me some instructions
[05:09] <pvl1> dreamy_: so we have the iso right
[05:09] <dreamy_> yes
[05:09] <RahulAN> pvl1, okk
[05:10] <wise_phone> From tty1 i type startx and have full use of the track pad.  Synaptic drivers are a non issue.
[05:11] <dreamy_> i didnt found any ubuntu studio tho, but ill install it aftewards, ill install 2 linux
[05:11] <pvl1> wise_phone: so its unity
[05:11] <pvl1> wise_phone: do you plan on sticking with unity
[05:11] <pvl1> we should get one window manager working first
[05:12] <pvl1> dreamy_: studio can be installed from the repos
[05:12] <dreamy_> from apt?
[05:12] <pvl1> !studio | dreamy_
[05:12] <pvl1> yes
[05:12] <pvl1> from apt dreamy_
[05:12] <wise_phone> Pvl1 lets purge unity, fuck unity, once and for all.
[05:12] <dreamy_> pvl1, can you tell me what to do with the iso?
[05:13] <wise_phone> Pvl1 sudo apt-get perge unity.  ??
[05:14] <pvl1> dreamy_: do you have root access
[05:14] <pvl1> !language | wise_phone
[05:14] <dreamy_> i forgot my pass
[05:14] <pvl1> because ...
[05:14] <pvl1> trolls
[05:14] <pvl1> wise_phone: may i PM you
[05:14] <pvl1> dreamy_: ok
[05:14] <pvl1> thats not making this any easier lol
[05:14] <pvl1> dreamy_: hold on
[05:15] <pvl1> dreamy_: you can just change it...
[05:15] <wise_phone> Yeah pm away, we could be friends maybe, sorry to swear.
[05:15] <dreamy_> chmod?
[05:15] <df3d2> hello govs
[05:16] <dreamy_> cant i just use unetbootin insteaf of mkusb?
[05:16] <deadlyninja> how can i test my udev rules for net?
[05:16] <pvl1> hello df3d2
[05:16] <deadlyninja> i cloned a drive that has the 14.04 beta on it and networking doesnt work until i say dhclient p2p1
[05:16] <pvl1> dreamy_: no. reboot into the management ubuntu thing. cant remember the name
[05:16] <pvl1> and run passwd
[05:17] <deadlyninja> i see in dmesg that udev is renaming eth0 to p2p1, but i dont want it to do that
[05:17] <dreamy_> control panel? console?
[05:18] <dreamy_> passwd from the command line?
[05:18] <pvl1> deadlyninja: theres files you have to edit and stuffs to do. theres an archlinux wiki article on it
[05:18] <pvl1> dreamy_: well yes... but no
[05:19] <pvl1> dreamy_: hold on
[05:19] <vkkhurava> Hi, I want to get back my original kernel on ubuntu 14.04.. earlier on 13.10 I switched it to general due to wi-fi issue...
[05:20] <vkkhurava> *generic
[05:22] <pvl1> dreamy_: your going to need root
[05:22] <dreamy_> to use mkusb?
[05:22] <pvl1> dreamy_: yes
[05:23] <dreamy_> ill just use unetbootin? can i?
[05:23] <dreamy_> some people say its not good to use root
[05:24] <pvl1> dreamy_: you HAVE to use root on linux to be functional, what they mean
[05:24] <pvl1> is dont log in as root
[05:24] <pvl1> even still... you can as long as you know what your doing
[05:24] <pvl1> dreamy_: without root, you cannot install software
[05:24] <pvl1> nor can you read write mount drives
[05:25] <pvl1> the system is what is going to access the usb, as root. so therefore, you need root account
[05:25] <vkkhurava> I want to get back my original kernel on ubuntu 14.04.. earlier on 13.10 I switched it to general due to wi-fi issue.... pls help
[05:25] <pvl1> vkkhurava: you want to downgrade your kernel?
[05:25] <pvl1> why
[05:26] <vkkhurava> no... I just want to get original in place of generic
[05:26] <dreamy_> so ill recover root, how?
[05:27] <pvl1> dreamy_: you must reboot. get into grub. in grub the second option will be ubuntu [recovery]
[05:27] <pvl1> or something like that
[05:27] <vkkhurava> pvll : my current kernel version is 3.13.0-20-generic
[05:28] <pvl1> you select that, and then select a terminal and then type passwd
[05:28] <pvl1> dreamy_: i bet theres a youtube video
[05:28] <dreamy_> pvl1, ill take a risk..
[05:28] <dreamy_> if its a risk
[05:29] <pvl1> dreamy_: its not a risk
[05:29] <dreamy_> so ill be right back
[05:29] <pvl1> if it were, it would be more difficult to do
[05:29] <HomelessSanta> Howdy all, quick problem. I updated my Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS machine about an hour ago and took a walk. I started it up and it instantly dropped me into a virtual terminal I can't seem to run Unity or any other GUI. Any suggestions to somehow get back into Unity/LightDM?!?
[05:29] <pvl1> vkkhurava: i think you are in a missunderstanding
[05:29] <Flannel> vkkhurava: You want #ubuntu+1 for Trusty support, but there's only -generic now a days.
[05:29] <pvl1> thought so, thanks Flannel
[05:30] <pvl1> HomelessSanta: try sudo service restart lightdm
[05:30] <pvl1> and check syslog
[05:30] <vkkhurava> Pvll & Flannel : I didnt get ur point
[05:30] <HomelessSanta> Right now I'm on the LiveUSB.
[05:30] <Flannel> vkkhurava: What do you think you switched to in 13.10?
[05:30] <HomelessSanta> Anymore suggestions before I take a reboot?
[05:30] <pvl1> in unity login, where can you select a diff desktop
[05:31] <HomelessSanta> pvl1: By the way X.org did fail to start it implied.
[05:31] <pvl1> HomelessSanta: not without any more details
[05:31] <pvl1> need errors or something
[05:31] <pvl1> HomelessSanta: ah
[05:31] <HomelessSanta> My guess is X is more likely the problem.
[05:31] <pvl1> why.
[05:31] <vkkhurava> Flannel: I was on 13.10 then upgraded to 14.04
[05:31] <Flannel> vkkhurava: ok
[05:31] <pvl1> HomelessSanta: i like the username btw
[05:31] <HomelessSanta> pvl1: I updated the system and I suppose one of the updates killed it.
[05:31] <HomelessSanta> lol
[05:31] <Flannel> vkkhurava: So, what is it you're looking to do?
[05:31] <pvl1> Flannel: where in the unity login does one select their different desktop
[05:31] <pvl1> do you know?
[05:32] <HomelessSanta> pvl1: Thankies.
[05:32] <pvl1> HomelessSanta: try to update again
[05:32] <pvl1> i should be here
[05:32] <Flannel> pvl1: no idea
[05:32] <pvl1> always lurking on freenode
[05:32] <pvl1> yeah... been using i3 for a while now
[05:32] <vkkhurava> Flannel: while I was on 13.10 I replaced my original kernel with generic due to Wifi issue... but now on 14.04 I want to get back original kernel which ship with 14.04
[05:33] <HomelessSanta> I'll try it in a while by the way there isn't away to take a screenshot from the terminal is there?
[05:33] <Flannel> vkkhurava: What "original kernel" and what "generic kernel" are you talking about?
[05:33] <pvl1> HomelessSanta: no but
[05:33] <pvl1> HomelessSanta: there are lil scripts that can upload output to a pastebin
[05:34] <pvl1> HomelessSanta: or, cellphone and imgur :)
[05:34] <kandinski> hi all
[05:34] <HomelessSanta> Haha to bad my cellphone died in dirty water.
[05:35] <pvl1> aww HomelessSanta what phone
[05:35] <pvl1> hello kandinski
[05:35] <dreamy_> pvl1, success
[05:35] <dreamy_> whats further
[05:35] <vkkhurava> Flannel: as per my understanding 14.04 comes with 3.13.5 and I have its generic version
[05:35] <dreamy_> ?
[05:35] <kandinski> I have a fstab line that mounts a samba share with the _netdev option. It worked on 12.04, mounting the filesystem when it was available on the network, but it's stopped working since I upgraded to 13.10. Any ideas?
[05:35] <HomelessSanta> It was an Android phone. LG Motion 4G it was a good phone for the budget price.
[05:35] <pvl1> dreamy_: see no danger, good job!
[05:36] <pvl1> HomelessSanta: ive seen them, good phones. im sorry to hear that. bag of rice right
[05:36] <HomelessSanta> Will be back in a while possibly see ya soon pvl1. :P
[05:36] <kandinski> cifs-utils is installed, and the partition does mount manually with mount -a
[05:36] <vkkhurava> Flannel: currently i am on 3.13.0-20-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 28 09:56:33 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:36] <pvl1> although ive fixed many phones iwth isoprpyl alcohol
[05:36] <HomelessSanta> Bag of rice didn't work either.
[05:36] <HomelessSanta> lol
[05:36] <HomelessSanta> brb
[05:36] <jack_> Hey I need help with something
[05:36] <kandinski> so it's something aboug ubuntu not triggering the mount anymore.
[05:36] <pvl1> dreamy_: install unetbootin
[05:37] <dreamy_> no trouble
[05:37] <jack_> anyone here have experience with openvpn?
[05:37] <pvl1> yes
[05:37] <pvl1> kandinski:
[05:38] <Flannel> vkkhurava: According to the website I have, trusty is on 3.13.0.23.27.  However, you should ask in #ubuntu+1 (thats a channel), because they'll know more about trusty than we do here.
[05:38] <jack_> pv11: You do? I need to know how to disconnect from a vpn profile via terminal
[05:38] <pvl1> can you confirm that you have interwebs connection before its mounting
[05:38] <pvl1> jack_: sudo service openvpn stop
[05:38] <jack_> plz someone
[05:38] <vkkhurava> Flannel: Thx for ur support
[05:39] <dreamy_> pvl1, next?
[05:40] <pvl1> dreamy_: oh wait sorry i forgot we switched to the minimal iso. my fault. but anyways. do you know which /dev device is your usb
[05:40] <pvl1> dreamy_: i mean at this point, u can just us mkusb
[05:40] <dreamy_> pvl1, it probably in /media
[05:41] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys how do i delete terminal history history -c?
[05:41] <dreamy_> pvl1, let me try to check that on the link
[05:42] <pvl1> Psil0Cybin: have you googled this
[05:43] <dreamy_> im having some trouble understanding the tuturial, can i just do something like this? sudo mkusb saucy-desktop-i386.iso
[05:46] <pvl1> well thats what ur supposed to do
[05:46] <pvl1> but saucy wont fit
[05:47] <zhiyuan> HI FAGGOTS
[05:47] <OperaGhostkv> why just use dd ?
[05:47] <OperaGhostkv> mkusb is based on dd anyway
[05:48] <pvl1> yeah
[05:48] <pvl1> but he thinks the device is in /media
[05:48] <pvl1> dreamy_: do you know which /dev file is your usb thumb drive
[05:48] <OperaGhostkv> unmount it first of course !
[05:49] <pvl1> because you can just do sudo dd if=/mini.iso of=/dev/sdX
[05:49] <dreamy_> pvl1, no, mkusb is a script im tryng to donwload it and run it?
[05:50] <OperaGhostkv> you should run #sudo fdisk -l
[05:50] <pvl1> hm
[05:50] <pvl1> great idea
[05:50] <pvl1> yea do that dreamy_ ^^^
[05:50] <dreamy_> bit scared..
[05:50] <OperaGhostkv> to check where is your usb device
[05:50] <pvl1> of what dreamy_ ?
[05:50] <pvl1> wait
[05:50] <dreamy_> fdisk?
[05:50] <OperaGhostkv> it might be /dev/sdg
[05:51] <pvl1> dreamy_: you would rather trust a script you download from the internet
[05:51] <OperaGhostkv> or some like that
[05:51] <pvl1> over running the commands yourself?
[05:51] <OperaGhostkv> the script will use dd anyway !
[05:51] <dreamy_> can i press the key control to donwload the script?
[05:52] <dreamy_> or copy paste it?
[05:53] <dreamy_> i cant download it, the browser edits the file
[05:53] <pvl1> dreamy_: where are you downloading from
[05:53] <pvl1> dreamy_: also. never trust scripts you find on the internet
[05:54] <pvl1> thats much more likely to damage your system
[05:54] <dreamy_> http://phillw.net/isos/one-button-installer/scripts/
[05:55] <OperaGhostkv> it is crazy to use a dd in that way
[05:55] <dreamy_> if unetbootin works with the dvd iso, it could work with the minimal iso too
[05:56] <pvl1> dreamy_: right click save as
[05:57] <dreamy_> pvl1, im going to try unetbootin, ill only use the script after i get some rest
[05:57] <pvl1> dreamy_: just use dd
[05:57] <pvl1> this can be done in 2 minutes
[05:58] <dreamy_> after some sleep?
[06:01] <pvl1> idk if ill be here but im sure someone will help
[06:01] <pvl1> dd is very simple
[06:04] <z8z> which is better to locally mirror the package repos? ftpsync or apt-mirror?
[06:04] <OperaGhostkv> if you just forget your root passwd
[06:05] <OperaGhostkv> you don't need to do that ..there are many simple way to recover
[06:06] <pvl1> OperaGhostkv: how would you do it
[06:06] <OperaGhostkv> well ,you can change your run level
[06:06] <OperaGhostkv> into the single user mod
[06:07] <pilgo> Hey all.
[06:07] <pvl1> OperaGhostkv: isnt that what recovery mode is?
[06:07] <pvl1> pilgo: hello
[06:07] <OperaGhostkv> no
[06:08] <pilgo> I ran apt-get update then ran apt-get dist-upgrade but it failed with some resolvconf issue. Now apt-get dist-upgrade doesn’t do anything
[06:08] <pilgo> my openssl pacakge is still the old one :(
[06:09] <OperaGhostkv> you can use live cd to into linux rescue
[06:10] <somsip> pilgo: run openssl version -a and look for a build date of 7th April2014.
[06:10] <pilgo> somsip: Not getting that so much...
[06:10] <pilgo> which is why i’m concerned
[06:11] <pvl1> pilgo: try sudo apt-get update, to be sure
[06:11] <pilgo> pvl1: Yeah, I did that
[06:11] <somsip> pilgo: follow this https://gist.github.com/dhrrgn/10125477
[06:11] <geirha> pilgo: try specifically upgrading the openssl package by running:  sudo apt-get install openssl
[06:11] <geirha> If that fails, post the output in a pastebin
[06:12] <pilgo> libssl1.0.0 is already the newest version.
[06:12] <pilgo> libssl1.0.0 set to manually installed.
[06:12] <pvl1> pilgo: and sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:12] <pvl1> not dist
[06:12] <pvl1> just upgrade
[06:13] <pilgo> pvl1: Yeah,  tried that
[06:13] <pvl1> and
[06:13] <pilgo> http://dpaste.com/1776240/
[06:13] <geirha> pilgo: ls -l "$(type -P openssl)"
[06:13] <pilgo> pvl1: It says 0 packages to upgrade and what not
[06:15] <pilgo> geirha: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 510224 Apr  7 20:35 /usr/bin/openssl
[06:15] <geirha> looks like it's the right version
[06:16] <pilgo> geirha: openssl verion -a returns this: OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[06:16] <pilgo> but also says: built on: Mon Apr  7 20:31:55 UTC 2014
[06:17] <pilgo> I guess it’s correct but 2012 threw me off
[06:17] <pilgo> Thanks guys
[06:17] <geirha> ah, so it was right all along :)
[06:17] <pilgo> geirha: yeah, sorry
[06:20] <vqoley> hello
[06:20] <vqoley> anyone can help me to me torrent with iptables?
[06:21] <vqoley> this is list http://paste.ubuntu.com/7233694/ for block torrent in ubuntu using iptables
[06:24] <oren> i try to install ubuntu and in the first install page (choosing language) my keyboard is not working. i can't hit anything. i tried reinstalling and had the same issue. any advice?
[06:25] <oren> i know the keyboard is working fine since i was able to choose 'install' from the first menu.
[06:25] <oren> i also tried 'command line install' and 'install ubuntu server' but had the same issue.
[06:26] <z8z> pilgo: mine too
[06:26] <z8z> pilgo: sorry quote mistake
[06:33] <buck_> hello
[06:40] <Kartagis> hi
[06:42] <Kartagis> I have a spreadsheet with the conditional formattings and all. formatting got lost when I saved the file. what the hell?
[06:42] <ikonia> what application was the spreadsheet created in ?
[06:42] <ikonia> (noted created, not opened)
[06:42] <lerra> Hi, I have a netinstall setup based on preseed and 12.04.4, a new laptop I have does not have it's nic present in debian installer. So i tested a 12.04.4 livecd and the nic comes up there so the kernel supports it. When I create my own alt 12.04.4 cd with the preseed on it it gives the same error that it cant find the nic but when I use the normal preseed it seams like the nic works but in a later stage of the installation,
[06:44] <ikonia> Kartagis: what application was the spreadsheet CREATED in ?
[06:45] <Kartagis> MSOffice
[06:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok, so this normally happens when you save it using the open office standards
[06:46] <ikonia> some of the conditional formatting is microsoft only, and saving it in an application that can't deal with that often removes it in the save
[06:46] <Kartagis> ikonia: I needed to save as?
[06:46] <ikonia> Kartagis: as the same microsoft format as it came in (although sometimes this can also fail if you've done something that updates the formatting and the open source app can't apply the propritary formatting)
[06:46] <Kartagis> hrm
[06:47] <afib> hello everyone!
[06:47] <ikonia> Kartagis: this is not uncommon, when you hit save it normally asks something like "do you want to save this in it's orginal format or OSD format"
[06:47] <Kartagis> well it didn't
[06:47] <murlidhar> hi everybody. after update the flash isn't working. firefox says flash isn't installed.
[06:47] <docsaintly> Has anyone been able to use Ubuntu on a Gigabyte Brix with an AMD CPU?
[06:48] <ikonia> docsaintly: just state YOUR problem
[06:48] <afib> i was curious to know if it is possible for me to start a unity session via SSH. i've left the computer on, but it's at login screen so i can't VNC into it. i do have root, but im stuck on a windows machine atm so i've only got PuTTY to work with for SSH
[06:49] <docsaintly> ikonia: three different versions of Ubuntu (or distro based on it) all have problems with it. Xorg locks up, becomes unresponsive.
[06:49] <afib> basically i need to know if i can login my session via SSH using my credentials, so i can start my VNC session
[06:49] <ikonia> docsaintly: ok, so why does the cpu matter, do you mean the gpu /
[06:49] <ikonia> Kartagis: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[06:49] <docsaintly> Well, all the Brix style things are APUs
[06:49] <Kartagis> ikonia: 13.04
[06:50] <Kartagis> erm, might be .10
[06:50] <Kartagis> lemme check
[06:50] <ikonia> Kartagis: I can't test 13.04 sorry, but 12.04 it certainly works fine on
[06:50] <ikonia> docsaintly: look in the xorg log which xorg module (driver) it's loading for your setup
[06:50] <Kartagis> yeah, it's 13.10
[06:52] <ikonia> Kartagis: what application are you opening it in ?
[06:52] <Kartagis> ikonia: libreoffice
[06:53] <ikonia> Kartagis: yeah, works fine on 12.04
[06:53] <ikonia> just tested it on an excel spreadsheet with ms specific conditional formatting
[06:53] <Kartagis> ikonia: should I not save it and do something else?
[06:53] <ikonia> save it as a micrisoft xls rather than osd, all fine in excel
[06:53] <helmut_> hi
[06:54] <JC_Yang> I redirect a hexdump output to a text file and some lines are missing with "*" in-place, what's wrong?
[06:54] <soft-wxy> nh
[06:54] <soft-wxy> 你好
[06:55] <soft-wxy> 在干嘛
[06:55] <afib> is it not possible for me to start a session, remotely, through SSH? the server has restarted and i don't have physical access to login from the main login screen. thus, i cannot tunnel in through ssh/vnc as the connection is refused until a session is started (eg login through lightdm)
[06:55] <soft-wxy> 你好
[06:55] <soft-wxy> HELLO
[06:56] <soft-wxy> ZAIGAN
[06:57] <z8z> which is better to locally mirror the package repos? ftpsync or apt-mirror?
[06:57] <ikonia> z8z: up to you
[06:58] <soft-wxy> 哈哈
[06:58] <z8z> ikonia: ??? same behaviour?
[06:58] <soft-wxy> 酷
[06:58] <Bray90820_> So for the life of me i can't properly boot ubuntu
[06:58] <Bray90820_> After grub the screen goes black
[06:58] <ikonia> z8z: same concept copy files from a->b
[06:59] <bazhang> !cn | soft-wxy
[07:01] <soft-wxy> 及哦你
[07:01] <afib> i don't need to start x through ssh, i just need to start my session... without getting past the initial login screen i cant get vnc to work
[07:01] <afib> or rather, forward x through the SSH
[07:01] <Bray90820_> So for the life of me i can't properly boot ubuntu After grub the screen goes black
[07:02] <JC_Yang> damn it... it's a hex dump feature... line identical to the previous one will be displayed as asterisk...
[07:02] <afib> bray: no messages?
[07:02] <Bray90820_> basically the monitor goes to sleep
[07:02] <Bray90820_> but i can tell it booted because i can here the ubuntu sound
[07:03] <z8z> ikonia: so those software doesn't anything specific related to any checking or some other issue?
[07:03] <z8z> ikonia: ftpsync is generic?
[07:03] <z8z> ikonia: i'm a bit confused
[07:04] <Bray90820_> afib: no message
[07:07] <Bray90820_> afib: do you know what's going on
[07:08] <afib> bray: no, i haven't experienced anything similar with no message. have you tried another monitor? if it's starting up for sure, then surely it's a problem with the display server right? but in my past experience, i would never have been able to hear the sounds of loggin in etc
[07:09] <afib> since no server means no gui, and those sounds don't run if you aren't in the gui
[07:09] <MaxFrames> hello
[07:10] <Bray90820_> afib: i tried booting windows installed on the same pc
[07:10] <MaxFrames> accidentally clicked on "never notify again" on a "couldn't connect to vpn" message, and now I can't reset this pref
[07:10] <docsaintly> ikonia: how do I check which Xorg driver it's loading?
[07:10] <MaxFrames> gsettings reset org.gnome.nm-applet disable-vpn-notifications => fails with "failed to commit changes to dconf"
[07:10] <Bray90820_> This all started when the display refused to wake from sleep
[07:10] <[A3G1S]> Hey guys How can I make all traffic for a user go through a specific network interface ?
[07:10] <MaxFrames> dconf-editor also fails with the same error
[07:10] <[A3G1S]> can anyone guide me on this ?
[07:11] <MaxFrames> if I sudo dconf-editor I don't see the same settings i.e. the notifications for vpn networks are still default
[07:11] <MaxFrames> how do I reset the pref for the non-sudo user?
[07:17] <MaxFrames> anyone please?
[07:17] <geirha> MaxFrames: run it without sudo ...
[07:17] <MaxFrames> if I run it without sudo, I cannot change any value
[07:17] <MaxFrames> if I run it with sudo, I don't see the same values
[07:17] <geirha> MaxFrames: but since you (wrongly) have run it with sudo already, the permissions are likely broken
[07:18] <MaxFrames> no no no no. I tried to run it with sudo after seeing that running w/o sudo did not allow me to change the settings
[07:18] <MaxFrames> in sudo mode, I didn't do anything. Just read the values.
[07:19] <MaxFrames> it's a catch 22. I made a change to a setting as non-sudo, and now I cannot change it back.
[07:20] <geirha> MaxFrames: well, let's make sure there's no files with wrong ownership in your homedir first.  find ~ -xdev ! -user "$USER" -ls
[07:20] <geirha> that should hopefully not list any files.
[07:22] <MaxFrames> no files.
[07:22] <MaxFrames> this is a fresh lubuntu install from yesterday, almost everything is default
[07:23] <MaxFrames> the command I am trying is "gsettings reset org.gnome.nm-applet disable-vpn-notifications"
[07:23] <MaxFrames> the error I get is "dconf-WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf"
[07:24] <MaxFrames> "gsettings org.gnome.nm-applet disable-vpn-notifications" shows that the current value is "true" and I can't change it to "false"
[07:25] <MaxFrames> "sudo gsettings reset org.gnome.nm-applet disable-vpn-notifications" gives no errors, but it does not change anything for the non-sudo user
[07:26] <Bray90820_> Anyone have a solution to my error?
[07:26] <MaxFrames> besides that, there's also another problem with the nm-editor, more exactly with the openvpn plugin for the nm-editor
[07:27] <MaxFrames> I have a vpn connection whose client key is protected with a password; I don't want to save this password, I want it to be requested every time
[07:27] <MaxFrames> well, there is no way to save the vpn connection in the nm-editor unless I fill in the password field
[07:27] <MaxFrames> this way the vpn connection works, but I don't want the password to be stored.
[07:29] <MaxFrames> finally third problem, the nm-editor window is just a tad too tall for my netbook screen, and I have a hard time dragging the window to reveal the "save" button, there seems to be no way to resize the window to make it shorter
[07:30] <Guido1> Hello, I would like to change the location of some maps in my profile like music, pictures etc. How can I do that? I also would like uninstall some programs. the siftwercenter shows al installed programs, but I can't uninstal them from there. (I also want to remove some programs i installed with the commenadline so that other programs run. How can i see the relations?)
[07:31] <bazhang> Guido1, how were they installed
[07:32] <Guido1> bazhang: some where installed via the cmommandline and some via the software center
[07:32] <bazhang> Guido1, all from the ubuntu software repositories then
[07:33] <bazhang> Guido1, when you say "some maps" did you wish to have Documents, Music, etc on another driver/partition?
[07:33] <bazhang> -r
[07:33] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:34] <Guido1> bazhang: yes, that's what i want
[07:34] <bazhang> Guido1, and as for removing applications/packages, it's simply sudo apt-get remove packagename
[07:35] <Guido1> bazhang: but how do i do that? the system is always looking on the old place and making the maps, if they are not there
[07:36] <KeithWeisshar> why is it taking a long to create a live usb with persistant data using pendrivelinux
[07:36] <Guido1> bazhang: but some pacages seam to consist of several smaller pakages
[07:36] <KeithWeisshar> why does it take a long time to create the persistant file on my sandisk cruzer
[07:37] <Bray90820_> Why does my screen go to sleep after grub but ubuntu boots anyways because i can here the startup sound
[07:37] <KeithWeisshar> i created the persistant file of the maximum size in universal usb installer
[07:37] <KeithWeisshar> it's still writing and the progrress bar does not move until finished
[07:38] <bazhang> Guido1, the dependencies? yes, it may remove those as well
[07:38] <KeithWeisshar> i have a 32gb flash drive and the persistent file is 4gb
[07:38] <Guido1> bazhang: can i change them?
[07:38] <KeithWeisshar> it's taking a long time to write casper-rw
[07:40] <KeithWeisshar> why can't i cancel the usb installer while writing persistent file
[07:43] <Chirag> Hi....i have a performance issue in ubuntu 12.04 lTS
[07:56] <Chirag> I have performance issue in ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[08:32] <MrMovl> hi there.
[08:39] <bullicon> I am running a command like /home/ubuntu/bin/program.py 2>&1 | mail -s <email_address>
[08:39] <bullicon> I need to redirect output to a log file as well
[08:39] <bullicon> can I have multiple tees
[08:46] <Tex_Nick> bullicon: if you don't gen an answer here, you might ask in #bash ... tis kinda a slow now though
[08:47] <bullicon> Thanks Tex_Nick
[08:47] <Tex_Nick> np :)
[08:49] <zaof-lael> k onda alguien alli...
[08:50] <Tex_Nick> !es | zaof-lael
[08:53] <leope> Code-free website software
[09:06] <sharkpoofie> Hello people
[09:08] <sharkpoofie> I have a question, my ubuntu 13.10 (freshly reinstalled for 3rd time) is always freezing on me, not even sysrq key is working... which log could contain some information on the cause?
[09:08] <sharkpoofie> i tried to let memtest run over the night and it did not show any errors
[09:09] <jjavaholic> I ran both "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity" and rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc .mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz* but none of my settings reset on reboot what could be going wrong here?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> jjavaholic last time I wanted to do a complete reset, I nuked ALL the .hiiddent files/folders.  worked.  of course, YMMV
[09:11] <jjavaholic> gnome-tweak-tool worked to switch back to the defaults manually
[09:11] <humbolt> Hands on my palm for Trusty. This thing breaks in so many ways!!! Well, mostly Gnome does.
[09:12] <jjavaholic> like this: "rm -Rfv ~/.*"
[09:16] <k1l> jjavaholic: which settings do you mean especially?
[09:17] <jjavaholic> window theme, icon theme, font, cursor theme
[09:18] <k1l> sharkpoofie: see the syslog in /var/log but the one from last boot, that should be named syslog.0 or syslog.1
[09:27] <sharkpoofie> k1l: thanks,  will look into it
[09:29] <sharkpoofie> hmmm nothing to be found there
[09:32] <ala_> I got ubuntu problems! Would anyone care to help?
[09:32] <keevitaja> hi, which one to use: keepass2 or keepassX ?
[09:32] <k1l> look at the end, that should be the last thing before you had to reboot, sharkpoofie
[09:32] <ala_> Trying to get audio to play with a CLI-only install
[09:33] <sharkpoofie> keepassX if you want to use it on android, windows, osx and so on
[09:33] <keevitaja> sharkpoofie how does it work exactly? will it autofill the password fields?
[09:34] <sharkpoofie> k1l: it only contains some logs from whoopsie
[09:34] <sharkpoofie> keevitaja, it can work with some plugins, but i never used them
[09:34] <keevitaja> ok, thanx. will give it a try
[09:34] <sharkpoofie> k1l, i can paste it somewhere online
[09:35] <k1l> !paste | sharkpoofie
[09:35] <jjavaholic> so I blitzed the hidden folders restarted and kinda got what I expected except the cursor theme hasn't changed that is kinda weird behaviour is it not?
[09:36] <k1l> jjavaholic: if you made the change systemwide and not only for your user its not unexpected
[09:36] <maveas> n
[09:36] <maveas> n
[09:36] <jjavaholic> how would I do that?
[09:36] <maveas> Sorry ^
[09:36] <sharkpoofie> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7234127/ because it's too big to copy :
[09:36] <mortal_> hi yall
[09:37] <k1l> jjavaholic: i dont know how you did set that cursor theme
[09:37] <zetheroo1> what will the version of qemu and libvirt be in 14.04
[09:37] <zetheroo1> ?
[09:37] <k1l> zetheroo1: see packages.ubuntu.com
[09:37] <mortal_> how do i changee the color of the top bar?
[09:37] <mortal_> i want to make it black
[09:37] <soc42> hi #ubuntu
[09:38] <mortal_> anyone
[09:38] <mortal_> ?
[09:38] <jjavaholic> extracting the cursor theme to /usr/share/icon/ then selecting it via gnome-tweak-tool
[09:38] <cfhowlett> mortal_ greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[09:38] <sharkpoofie> k1l, i have to leave for like an hour, i will return unless my ubuntu freezes :D thanks for the help :D
[09:38] <soc42> i am on 12.04 on a thinkpad r60 and need to update the graphics adapter driver
[09:38] <mortal_> install additional drivers?
[09:39] <jjavaholic> then manually editing /usr/share/icon/default/index.theme and changing that to match
[09:39] <mortal_> im newbie
[09:39] <soc42> currently in System Settings the graphics driver states: "Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV515 "
[09:39] <k1l> jjavaholic: so maybe you have overwritten the original cursor theme there?
[09:39] <soc42> the notebook has a "ATI Mobility Radeon X1400" inside
[09:39] <zetheroo1> if we are running a system with the latest 14.04 release as of today, will we need to update when 14.04 final is released
[09:40] <zetheroo1> ?
[09:40] <soc42> do i have to install fglrx to update the driver?
[09:40] <DJones> !final | zetheroo1
[09:40] <ikonia> zetheroo1: yes
[09:40] <zetheroo1> sorry, that question came out wrong ...
[09:40] <ikonia> zetheroo1: #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 chat
[09:40] <zetheroo1> will be have to re-install fresh when the final is released
[09:40] <k1l> zetheroo1: just install all updates
[09:40] <zetheroo1> ok
[09:42] <jjavaholic> as far as user permissions who should own /usr/share/icons and /usr/share/themes
[09:43] <mortal_> anyone know how to change the top bar to black?
[09:43] <k1l> jjavaholic: that is all root territory
[09:44] <soc42> problem why i try to update the graphics adapter driver is that gpu temp is currently at 65°C
[09:48] <jjavaholic> so "sudo chown root -Rfv /usr/share/icons/*" and "sudo chown root -Rfv /usr/share/themes/*" should rectify any discrepancy?
[09:52] <geirha> lose the *
[09:53] <geirha> sudo chown -Rv root: /usr/share/{icons,themes}
[09:57] <Sly__> If anyone is there, I need help
[09:57] <cfhowlett> !ask|Sly__
[09:59] <Sly__> I'm trying to install elementary OS alongside Win8, but from what I know, Ubuntu installs in the same way so the problem might be similar. When I get to the part where I would select "Other" for the installation method, I don't see that or any other option. I get this instead: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bk7juorIEAA1Eg4.jpg
[09:59] <cfhowlett> Sly__ elementary OS is not supported here.  use their support channels.  sorry.
[10:00] <Sly__> Only one person is there, and he's in and out. And I've seen the installation methods are almost the same. You really can't help me out?
[10:00] <amirchandrapady> decoded:jpeg not available while running python..how to solve
[10:00] <cfhowlett> Sly__ this is ubuntu.  we support canonical ubuntu flavors.  (and if your OS doesn't support you, perhaps you should reconsider ...)
[10:01] <Sly__> Well, thanks anyway.
[10:01] <cor_> you have to it manually.
[10:01] <cor_> to late ;-)
[10:01] <amirchandrapady> yes tell me..how to solve
[10:03] <interweb> Where could I find a good linux/unix command cheatsheet ?
[10:03] <cfhowlett> amirchandrapady ask the #python channel
[10:03] <deferi> hi. i have new thinkpad E531. thinkpad keyboard backlight doesnt work on ubuntu?
[10:03] <cfhowlett> interweb wait 1 ... https://www.dropbox.com/s/7sqzo0wip1tlngh/fwunixref.pdf
[10:04] <TeraJL> VLC does not seem to be working with HTTPS protocol, "main tls client error: TLS client plugin not available"
[10:04] <cfhowlett> interweb https://www.dropbox.com/s/msv95ijbb0uoeb4/Ubuntu%20Reference%20Sheet.pdf
[10:04] <interweb> cfhowlett, thanks for both
[10:05] <cfhowlett> interweb enjoy them
[10:05] <interweb> When I want to upgrade my packages using apt-get "duplicity" have been kept back, I've looked at apt-mark and it is unhold but I can not upgrade it why ?
[10:12] <e01> hello
[10:13] <cfhowlett> e01 greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[10:13] <e01> will i get some benefits if i install intel gpu driver, or it is the same with this instaled by default in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[10:14] <[Gentoo]> e01: intel drivers should be built into the kernel
[10:14] <amirchandrapady> anything changes in ubuntu 13.10 and 14.04
[10:15] <e01> [Gentoo]: so i not need to install it manually?
[10:15] <jjavaholic> !xdg
[10:15] <StephenS> !xorg
[10:16] <StephenS> !xorgconf
[10:16] <cfhowlett> amirchandrapady yes.
[10:16] <XubHuman> heeeey
[10:16] <cfhowlett> XubHuman greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[10:17] <jjavaholic> thunar-uca-WARNING **: Failed to load `/etc/xdg/Thunar/uca.xml': Permission denied
[10:18] <kostkon> amirchandrapady, support for 13.10 will end in July so you'll have to upgrade to 14.04 anyway
[10:18] <vados> disconnect
[10:19] <interweb> What is the different between less and more ?
[10:21] <amirchandrapady> last year i used12.04.but in  that version some package wont support,as same way asking you is in 14.04 will support every package?
[10:22] <Anuska> hi, i use linux on x64 and i install wine to run a little program and give me this: err:module:import_dll Loading library WLDAP32.dll ?
[10:22] <Anuska> how i resolve this
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !wine|Anuska
[10:23] <Anuska> nice answer :) thanks
[10:23] <Anuska> !virtualizers
[10:25] <amirchandrapady> i need to install 2 packages in different  terminal at the same time..is it possible?
[10:25] <XubHuman> remote ?
[10:26] <troulouliou_dev> hi how to compil explicitly against openssl0.9.8 ?
[10:26] <DJones> amirchandrapady: I would say not, because only one package manager can have exclusive locks on the package databases etc
[10:29] <Linuxator> why isn't ubuntu so nicely customised as Mint?
[10:29] <cfhowlett> Linuxator if you prefer mint, please use it.
[10:30] <NicholasC> Poor guy, tried to troll and got shot down within 30 secs.
[10:30] <Linuxator> cfhowlett: i use LMDE
[10:40] <interweb> When ubuntu 14.04 comes out ?
[10:40] <DJones> 17th APril
[10:40] <interweb> DJones, Could I update my ubuntu 13.10 direct to it ?
[10:41] <DJones> interweb: Yes you will be able to
[10:41] <DJones> !upgrade | interweb
[10:44] <Dbugger> Hey guys. I have noticed that in my server, whenever I do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", it becomes REALLY slow. Like it takes 2 minutes in "Building dependency tree". Does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:52] <husnainlatif> what's the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu touch?
[10:55] <Linuxator> superlinux-hp: plan 9 from Bell lab ما رأيك في ?
[10:55] <cfhowlett> !touch|husnainlatif
[10:56] <electron-beam> http://www.gnewsense.org
[10:57] <husnainlatif> thanks cfhowlett
[10:57] <cfhowlett> electron-beam if you have a specific question, ask.  random url's help no one
[10:57] <electron-beam> Sorry.
[11:00] <Guest33470> hi
[11:00] <idimmu> hi
[11:00] <idimmu> how are you?
[11:00] <idimmu> i hope you are having a nice day
[11:00] <Guest33470> I'm ok.
[11:00] <idimmu> only ok? im GREAT! im about to have lunch on the BEACH its going to be SUPER AWESOME
[11:00] <Guest33470> sure, because today is friday.
[11:01] <idimmu> yes! yes it is, 6 more hours and im FREE free and ready for the weekend, its' going to be SMASHING
[11:01] <Guest33470> cool
[11:01] <gry> I have this issue. http://askubuntu.com/questions/81939/foreman-command-not-found. `rbenv rehash` does not solve it. Please suggest.
[11:01] <bekks> Could you take that to the offtopic channel? ;)
[11:01] <gry> I?
[11:01] <bekks> gry: No, not you.
[11:01] <gry> Good. :)
[11:01] <Guest33470> I'm wondering how to search intersting channel on this irc server
[11:01] <Guest33470> who knows?
[11:01] <gry> Guest33470: Ask ALIS for help.
[11:01] <kostkon> !alis | Guest33470
[11:01] <gry> Guest33470: /msg ALIS help
[11:02] <Guest33470> thanks, that helped.
[11:02] <gry> Guest33470: /msg ALIS help list
[11:02] <gry> Good. :)
[11:03] <idimmu> bekks in the spirit and harmoney of the ubuntu philosophy, i dont see how exchanging pleasentaries with a stranger is offtopic
[11:03] <bekks> idimmu: Exchanging pleasentaries is a very nice thing, but not necessarily an ubuntu support issue, technically ;)
[11:04] <will> i have done my work. it's time to go home. cannot be more happy now.
[11:04] <idimmu> neither are almost 100% of the questions people ask in here, technically ;)
[11:04] <k1l> idimmu: please dont make a drama out of it. we try to keep this channel clear for technical support. that doesnt mean that pleasentries are forbidden but for extended pleasentaries the space for support will shrink. so we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that chat
[11:04] <sharkpoofie> could somebody look at my syslog and see if he can spot some problems why my ubuntu is freezing? :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/7234127/
[11:05] <k1l> sharkpoofie: which syslog is that? is that the one till the freeze?
[11:05] <sharkpoofie> k1l, yes
[11:06] <will> quit
[11:07] <k1l> sharkpoofie: which ubuntu is that exactly?
[11:08] <sharkpoofie> 13.10
[11:08] <sharkpoofie> downloaded today
[11:09] <k1l> oh, need to be afk for some time now
[11:09] <sharkpoofie> ok
[11:09] <peteed1985> hi
[11:10] <cfhowlett> peteed1985 greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[11:12] <peteed1985> my latest experience with linux is red hat linux 9 and fedora core 1 and 2 and I tried to install a video watching program like windows media player on it and ended up giving up cause you had to do it all in command line and then needed 1000 or more dependencies, never tried ubuntu so was curios how it is compared to what I remember of red hat linux 9?
[11:13] <bekks> peteed1985: sudo apt-get install kaffeine   does that job.
[11:13] <cfhowlett> peteed1985 sorry, but we have NO IDEA of what you remember from redhat.  to install a program in ubuntu, use the software center or bekks suggestions
[11:13] <gvo> peteed1985: much improved, try it.
[11:13] <m4rtijn> hi
[11:14] <cfhowlett> m4rtijn greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[11:16] <husnainlatif> cfhowlett,  i've gotta ask, if you don't mind, i skimmed through those pages and if I haven't got it wrong, ubuntutouch=arm and ubuntu=x86?
[11:17] <peteed1985> how does uninstalling ubuntu work? I have windows 8.1 and was wondering if I install ubuntu and then format the ubuntu drive will it break my windows because of grub loader replacing MBR?
[11:18] <cfhowlett> husnainlatif correctomundo
[11:18] <peteed1985> just wanna make sure I don't break my windows just to try it
[11:18] <cfhowlett> peteed1985 you're running windows 8 - likely you've got uefi  not mbr
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !uefi
[11:19] <peteed1985> ahh yeah I do I have an ASUS ROG board and it mentioned UEFI but I didn't understand it :D
[11:19] <m4rtijn> simple question, but google doesnt aswer well - i need an sh script to execute a /usr/local/bin/command in a the .sh directory..
[11:19] <m4rtijn> how do I start?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> peteed1985 nor I.  Haven't had to deal with it yet ...
[11:21] <dawnk_> I'm not able to open Vidalia
[11:21] <dawnk_> I get the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7234445/
[11:22] <m4rtijn> if I just do "command" in my sh script.. will it execute in the folder from the sh script?
[11:23] <gry> yes, I think so
[11:26] <OerHeks> m4v, yes, you need to use full path to your script
[11:29] <jjavaholic> if I want to do a clean reinstall of the ubuntu base packages?
[11:42] <jjavaholic> watch?v=SwUxvoFAO78 shows my problem window resize high CPU in system-monitor--indicator
[11:43] <OerHeks> jjavaholic, is that bad?
[11:43] <OerHeks> kannot see the link, as it is incomplete, but hey, resizing takes a little cpu power more
[11:44] <OerHeks> and should go back to 'normal' as you relaese the resize function
[11:45] <bekks> jjavaholic: Then dont use system monitor since thats the monitoring tool with the highest overhead ever known. It takes up to 30% of the resources shown used for itself.
[11:46] <jjavaholic> I suspect a mistake somewhere
[11:46] <jjavaholic> it never used to be this bad
[11:47] <bekks> jjavaholic: It always was that bad, regardring system monitor. :)
[11:47] <jjavaholic> it doesn't matter what session i'm in be it fallback or unity default
[11:48] <bekks> jjavaholic: Yes. because system monitor uses a lot of resources.
[11:48] <bekks> jjavaholic: Use a sane tool like top, sar or vmstat - but dont use system monitor.
[11:51] <jjavaholic> why does windows resize normal cost so much?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: "cost" is what way?
[11:52] <bekks> jjavaholic: As long as you are measuring with system monitor, all results arent worth to be mentioned.
[11:53] <dawnk_> guys how do I add bridges to tor without vidalia?
[11:54] <jjavaholic> I swear it came as a top 10 recommended indicator
[11:54] <jjavaholic> you are ruining my delusion that is it the only valuable indicator to have behind the weather-applet
[11:55] <bekks> jjavaholic: It is the most invaluable indicator ever.
[11:55] <OerHeks> jjavaholic, top or htop in terminal takes less resources
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: do you want a CPU usage indicator? Is this the requirement?
[11:56] <jjavaholic> actionparsnip: cost in terms of CPU usage and why wouldn't it be handled by the GPU?
[11:56] <kostkon> jjavaholic, depends of your graphics driver i guess
[11:56] <kostkon> on*
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: handled in what way...?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: if the window resizing is done in Compiz then I'd imagine it is done in 3D
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: If you disable the show window content while resizing, you will be given a wire shape which is faster and lighter
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> *wire frame
[11:58] <bekks> jjavaholic: Until you use a full openGL implementation and offloading graphic operations to the GPU entirely, the CPU will do most of the job.
[11:59] <svector> ##spring
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: are you using compiz? If you are unsure then you can run:    ps -ef | grep compiz | grep -v grep     to check
[11:59] <kostkon> jjavaholic, wait for mir qt5 non-compiz based unity8 it'll be much faster
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: or ditch junky compiz and use Gnome Shell :)
[12:00] <bekks> kostkon: Which will be available not before october :)
[12:00] <kostkon> jjavaholic, it's just around the corner. 1.5-2y max
[12:00] <bekks> kostkon: :D
[12:00] <jjavaholic> can't stand gnome-shell
[12:00] <kostkon> bekks, a very early preview of it yes
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> or use LXDE, XFCE  and so forth
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> imho the sooner compiz dies the better
[12:01] <jjavaholic> the idea that you would add a new workspace on the fly and not designate a workspace for certain app doesn't make workspace sense to me
[12:01] <bekks> jjavaholic: How are workspaces involved into all that?
[12:02] <jjavaholic> that is part of the reason I ditched fedora at the time before cinammon was introduced
[12:02] <jjavaholic> moving down the workspaces to a new empty one
[12:02] <jjavaholic> or moving apps to certain workspaces
[12:03] <karma6969> jjavaholic i dped your mom
[12:03] <bekks> jjavaholic: How is that related to measuring cpu performance without system monitir?
[12:03] <karma6969> ubuntu sucks
[12:03] <bekks> karma6969: then leave.
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> karma6969: dont use it then...
[12:03] <karma6969> yer all gay
[12:03] <karma6969> bye fags
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> well, that was productive
[12:04] <jjavaholic> I know how to read system monitor
[12:04] <jjavaholic> I would have to read up on how to use htop
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: why do you want to see the CPU use anyway?
[12:04] <jjavaholic> and it does seem like a waste of a terminal
[12:04] <bekks> jjavaholic: type "htop" and look at the screen.
[12:05] <bekks> jjavaholic: system monitor is wasting more resources than a terminal ever could. If you insist on using it, dont complain about wasting resources.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> on
[12:06] <bekks> yeah, on :)
[12:06] <jjavaholic> the convience of seeing what my CPU levels are without having to necessarily open a window
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: why do you want to see the CPU use anyway?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> bekks: sneezed (im full of cold)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: but why do you want to see the cpu levels?
[12:07] <jjavaholic> I can see what app is using what CPU usage
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: ok but what will you do with this information? To what end do you want this information?
[12:08] <jjavaholic> so I can kill it if necessary
[12:08] <jjavaholic> if I think it is using too much
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: your system will hang if it uses too much. You dont need to see the cpu usage every 5 seconds to do that
[12:08] <bekks> jjavaholic: You decision is based on what exactly?
[12:09] <jjavaholic> even back in the days of gnome2 an indicator type app was useful
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: if a process is starving other processes of time, you will see it as it will directly affect the desktop experience
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: the entire desktop and its performance can show you that
[12:10] <OerHeks> is a higher cpu use bad with resizing an (active) window?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: yes because the 2 seconds I am resizing its soooo annoying ;)
[12:10] <jjavaholic> not if the application is on a another workspace
[12:10] <Johnny_Linux> install the single second version
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: so why do you need an indicator when you can see the desktop noticably slow down for long periods of time, you can then take action. This human manual monitoring will cost you zero resources
[12:11] <bekks> jjavaholic: Of course.
[12:11] <bekks> jjavaholic: Because the workspaces are controlled by the same desktop environment.
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: the whole desktop will be affected as it is all using the same CPU pool
[12:11] <OerHeks> resizing an app on an other workspace, right.
[12:12]  * OerHeks goes idle
[12:12] <elichai2> can someone here help me with reinstalling GRUB through ubuntu live cd?
[12:12] <bekks> !grub2 | elichai2
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: omgubuntu has a fantastic guide called "sticking it to grub"
[12:12] <jjavaholic> my worst abuse of my quad core was leaving secondlife on overnight
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: basically the rationale for the indicator that you have is flawed
[12:13] <bekks> jjavaholic: Then why are you worried about window redraw resources?
[12:13] <jjavaholic> I think Ideally I was find something better more convient to monitor GPU usage
[12:13] <Treyshawn> good evening fellow rapists
[12:13] <elichai2> yeah but my problem is any guide say me to mount apecific partition
[12:13] <elichai2> and i have 3OS's on my machine
[12:13] <bertha> is this dominos
[12:14] <elichai2> so which one to mount?!
[12:14] <Treyshawn> NO
[12:14] <jjavaholic> this expensive redraw has been a recent thing 13.10
[12:14] <Treyshawn> i'll mount your mum
[12:14] <bertha> oooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: then you need to work out which partition has Ubuntu onto it so you can chroot
[12:14] <elichai2> none of them
[12:14] <bertha> i have an ubuntu partition
[12:14] <bertha> its called mac os
[12:14] <elichai2> i have Kali&Debian&Windows
[12:14] <Treyshawn> xD
[12:14] <Treyshawn> I lovve macs
[12:15] <Treyshawn> they are so good at gaems
[12:15] <bertha> i have standard ubunto and backtrack
[12:15] <bekks> elichai2: Neither KAli not Debian nor Windows is supported in here.
[12:15] <bertha> i dont like kali
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: then how is this ubuntu related when you dont have ubunt uinstaled?
[12:15] <bertha> the ui isnt as friendly imo
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: I suggest you ask in #kali-linux
[12:15] <elichai2> ActionParsnip: becuase i'm trying to use ubuntu live cd?
[12:15] <Treyshawn> YES IT IS
[12:15] <kostkon> why so many trolls today :/
[12:15] <chulis> hello ¿how can i decrease the appear time of a pop up? for example, when i recieve a mail or status battery etc?
[12:15] <chulis>  excuse for my english im spanish
[12:15] <Treyshawn> stupid trolls
[12:15] <Treyshawn> this bertha bitch is stupid
[12:15] <chulis> i use lubuntu
[12:15] <bekks> !ops | Treyshawn
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: the omgubutu guide shows how to reinstate grub using chroot, you will need to work out which has the partition you boot to, you can then chroot to that
[12:16] <jjavaholic> I think it might be traced back to a bad default resize normal mode
[12:16] <bekks> DJones: Thank you.
[12:16] <jjavaholic> changing resize mode to outline seems to have improved things
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: if this isnt clear then the guys in #kali-linux will be able to advise
[12:17] <elichai2> ActionParsnip: but i boot to all of my partitions!
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: no, grub is on ONE partition. Grub then makes the others load
[12:17] <bertha> what distro do you recommend for a noob to linux
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> bertha: ubuntu
[12:17] <bekks> bertha: Ubuntu
[12:17] <bertha> ok sweet
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> bertha: it does a lot of hand holding (at the cost of bloat)
[12:18] <bertha> but i know no programming or commands whatsoever
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> bertha: you arent expected to
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> bertha: why is that a thing?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> bertha: im not a programmer either, I use Ubuntu
[12:18] <bertha> i want to make the most out of it
[12:18] <bertha> if i do switch
[12:18] <b1001> Hi guys.. do any of you have an idea how to tile windows in unity? Like in dwm, xmonad awesome etc?
[12:18] <elichai2> ActionParsnip: so how can i know on which one?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> bertha: what does knowing about programming have to do with anything?
[12:19] <bertha> ive already partitioned my harddrive and installed ubuntu
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: I'd ask your Kali userbase, they'll be able to tell you
[12:19] <bertha> actionparsnip: i dont know, i just assumed to make the most out of ubuntu you needed to know some commands or progamming or something
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> bertha: not at all, same as windows. Its a desktop OS
[12:20] <Nick____> HI FAGOTS
[12:20] <mantas> hello, can somebody tel me which command to use to check linux server HDD for bad sectors? HDDs are SAS
[12:20] <bertha> actionparsnip: thanks
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> mantas: use fsck in live CD. The partition must be unmounted to be fsck'd
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> mantas: or if you can simply unmount them in the OS, then that is fine too
[12:21] <mantas> ActionParsnip is there any chance to check it without unmount? smartctl?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> mantas: no, the data may change as it is checked and cause a false positive
[12:22] <bertha> well boys im out
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> mantas: fsck will complain if you try to check mounted partitions
[12:24] <elichai2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair will repair debian grub too?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: ask in #debian
[12:27] <Jay----> Hello, how to install catalyst on xubuntu. I get it working on Ubuntu but not xubuntu
[12:27] <kandinski> pvl1:
[12:27] <soc42> hi #ubuntu
[12:28] <Jay----> Soc42: how do I install amd catalyst on xubuntu
[12:28] <soc42> i cant start unity because of running on low graphics card settings
[12:28] <Jay----> :(
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[12:28] <soc42> meaning my graphics card display driver might be broken
[12:28] <Guest0234> Hello guys; I've tryied to install win 7 along with ubuntu 12.04 but I changed my mind before starting the installation. When I came back to the ubuntu desktop, I cant see unity anymore, even the top bar is gone and I have very low resolution
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Jay----: spatry also has a youtube videoguide
[12:29] <Guest0234> Please help!!
[12:29] <jjavaholic> b1001: ccsm > place windows > placement mode there are a number of options
[12:29] <Jay----> Link me
[12:29] <soc42> sorry jay, but... i guess i'll need your help ;o)
[12:29] <Jay----> Ok
[12:30] <soc42> now the system 12.04.4 says "starting CUPS" but halting
[12:30] <brothersome> Guest0234: Change your screen resolution (system preferences)
[12:30] <soc42> any suggestions?
[12:30] <Guest0234> brothersome: unity bar is gone so I cant do that
[12:31] <Guest0234> it's like display is not loaded properly
[12:31] <Jay----> Go on xorg and fine their repo and insert the command into terminal
[12:31] <Jay----> find
[12:31] <Jay----> Beta is beta
[12:31] <Jay----> Beter
[12:32] <brothersome> Guest0234: restart and choose before you choose your name gnome (right above your name) and try
[12:32] <brothersome> Guest0234, you can also logoff and then do it
[12:32] <Xano> I just installed 13.10 on a brand new machine, but Unity feels extremely sluggish to me. Is there a way to speed things up? Googling only resulted in tons of topics with complaints
[12:32] <zteam> Hi all!
[12:32] <gareppa> try to reset unity config with this dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ unity --reset-icons &disown
[12:32] <Guest0234> brothersome: I have no menus guys
[12:32] <gareppa> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[12:33] <gareppa> unity --reset-icons &disown
[12:33] <gareppa> it should reset unity
[12:33] <elichai2> can i get help with ubunt Boot-repair?
[12:33] <zteam> is there any easy way to install XBMC without getting the greeter addon for LightDM?
[12:33] <brothersome> Guest0234: Ctrl-Alt-F1 prompt and Ctrl-Alt-F6 = Graphics
[12:33] <embrik> Can anyone please explain how I can set up a pc and give external acess to the desktop and let the local user watch?
[12:33] <Guest0234> gareppa:  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[12:33] <bekks> brothersome: ctrl alt f7 not f6
[12:34] <zteam> Because I think it screw up my LightDM
[12:34] <embrik> did you understand my question?
[12:35] <zteam> Xano, do you have the propriarety driver installed for your graphics card?
[12:35] <brothersome> embrik, teamviewer of vnc?
[12:35] <embrik> tried teamviewer - that's a possible solution.
[12:35] <gareppa> try a reinstall then...
[12:36] <embrik> Tried VLC too, streaming, but am not finsihed trying it out -
[12:36] <embrik> Thought more of a linux-solution :-)
[12:36] <brothersome> embrik, problem with rdp is that it opens a new session
[12:37] <embrik> brothersome Yes, The local user must see what's going on
[12:38] <anonymous_> wtf
[12:38] <Xano> zteam Where do I find out which drivers have been installed?
[12:38] <embrik> brothersome: Wuld it be possible to stream the whole desktop with vlc?
[12:38] <Xano> Iḿ not really familiar with the UI anymore :P
[12:39] <phao> Hey. Whenever I try to login with my user I type the password and then go back to the login screen (terminal 'black' screen appens in between with some messages like starting virtualbox stuff and a "Restoring Resolver State" at the end).
[12:39] <phao> I can start a guest session, and I can also login with my acct from the console.
[12:39] <phao> I'm on a guest session right now...
[12:39] <phao> any clues on how I solve this?
[12:40] <zteam> Xano, go to software and drivers -> additional drivers and check if you are using the suggested driver
[12:41] <zteam> Xano, (the system will automatically suggest, the best driver for you)
[12:41] <Xano> zteam, "No additional drivers available"
[12:41] <Xano> zteam, I have an Intel HD 4400 card, not sure if there are any third party drivers available at all
[12:42] <bekks> Xano: No, there arent.
[12:42] <Xano> let me look that up first
[12:42] <Xano> ah
[12:44] <kostkon> Xano, you are using the intel driver already
[12:45] <zteam> Xano, well with that graphics card u should be able to handle Unity without any problems at all
[12:46] <Xano> zteam, I'm sure itś not the card itself, but opening the dash is sluggish, alt+tab is sluggish too
[12:47] <zteam> Xano, Nope it is not the card, my graphics card is waaaay older
[12:48] <kostkon> Xano, mine is 1000s times slower than your intel hd and dash is fine
[12:49] <phao> damn it... it was just some bad shellscript I've added to my .profile.
[12:49] <donofrio> Folks, do we have an equal in Ubuntu of http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/ for current day Ubuntu.....
[12:51] <kostkon> Xano, install the package "mesa-utils" then give in the terminal:  glxinfo | grep -i renderer     easier way is to open your system settings and click on Details. What does it say about the graphics card
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: xmag
[12:54] <Xano> kostkon, "Driver Intel® Haswell Mobile " and "Experience Standard"
[12:54] <Xano> kostkon, There is no more specific informatoin
[12:55] <kostkon> Xano, ok. the driver used is the correct one.
[12:59] <musonic> i’m getting an apache error related to installing the intl extension. can anyone help?
[12:59] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, is that a new'ish™ application for the LightDM/Unity'ish and less (gulp) x11'ish....(can't believe I even asked that but with Mir and such...you know...)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: xmag is ancient dude
[13:01] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, I know, hence I original question (-;
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: i believe its a default part in all Xorg installs
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> !info xmag
[13:01] <donofrio> !info xmag
[13:01] <donofrio> (-:
[13:02] <donofrio> my bad
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> darn
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> !find xmag
[13:02] <peglong> !help
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: in a termimal, type xmag and hit ENTER, it will tell you what package is needed (if any)
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Xano: there is an intel driver installer, omgubuntu has a guide regarding it
[13:11] <Lachezar> Hey all... I'm looking for a way to perform port-redirect IPa:PORTa->IPa:PORTb without firewall rules and without root. In #linux I was pointed to something called 'relayd', but it does not seem to exist with Ubuntu. Please advise on an alternative.
[13:13] <Xano> ActionParsnip, I am not having much luck finding the guide yet. Do you perhaps have a link for me?
[13:14] <Xano> ActionParsnip, Ah, found it elsewhere already :)
[13:14] <Xano> thanks for the hint
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Xano: websearching is good
[13:17] <Xano> ActionParsnip, Yeah, but you need to look in the right corner :P
[13:17] <Xano> ActionParsnip, kostkon zteam Thanks for your hepl, looks like I may have solved my problem
[13:17] <Xano> *rebooting*
[13:18] <kostkon> Xano, what was the problem
[13:19] <Xano> kostkon, Missing driver, probably
[13:19] <kostkon> Xano, hmm ok
[13:19] <Xano> Ubuntu itself didn notify my. Had to use Intelś installer
[13:20] <t4ng0> hey guys
[13:21] <t4ng0> how to set linux 13.10 to have gnome 2 desktop?
[13:21] <ZeroXp> Hellos
[13:21] <ZeroXp> Can i help you.?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> t4ng0: 13.10 is eol soon
[13:21] <t4ng0> i mean the classic desktop or MATE
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> t4ng0: there is cinammon in the default repos
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> t4ng0: gnome 2 is dead and gone
[13:22] <t4ng0> so the latest LTS to be released this 17 will be eol?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> t4ng0: that makes no sense
[13:22] <ZeroXp> Can I apply some restrictions on ubuntu, the same GPO
[13:22] <ZeroXp> ?
[13:22] <t4ng0> lol, i am stucked with the old desktop
[13:23] <Xano> kostkon, ActionParsnip zteam The animations are still annoying, but at least they are no longer sluggish. Thanks! :)
[13:23] <t4ng0> but i want the latest version of ubuntu because of security
[13:24] <Pici> t4ng0: 13.10 will reach EOL in July. 14.04 (which comes out on the 17th) will reach EOL in 2019.
[13:24] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, was not looking for "quick" answer just the "Native Application" answer to the Magnification request
[13:25] <t4ng0> i would like to have the 10.4 desktop on 13.10
[13:25] <t4ng0> lol
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> t4ng0: if you like the old style desktop then install cinammon
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> t4ng0: or install gnome-panel and log off then select the new session
[13:25] <t4ng0> hmm but its stability?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> t4ng0: yes
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> t4ng0: again, 13.10 is dead soon, I'd update to 14.04 soon
[13:26] <t4ng0> security?alright
[13:26] <t4ng0> what would be the desktop be like on 14.04?
[13:26] <Stats_Ethan> 14.04 isn't out yet though, is it?
[13:26] <Stats_Ethan> Not a stable version, at least.
[13:26] <Pici> Not for another week.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> t4ng0: its the same as the default in 13.10
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> t4ng0: if you like the 2 panel session then Xubuntu may be a way to go
[13:26] <Stats_Ethan> There are some tweaks but overall it'll be the same.
[13:27] <t4ng0> well lol okay
[13:33] <voldym> i have made  a custom xkb keymap with changes caps key to ctrl but after login all the keys are mapped except the caps, i have to execute setxkbmap everytime.
[13:33] <voldym> the keymap file is https://github.com/voldyman/keylayout/blob/master/ak
[13:37] <voldym> anyone knows about keymaps ?
[13:38] <gdf411_> hello
[13:42] <mavericks> hallo everyone, i am just facing a "reboot instead of down" problem could any one help me ..
[13:42] <mavericks> this is my first time using xchat, do not know how to do it
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> mavericks: so you cannot shutdown, the system reboots instead?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> mavericks ask your ubuntu questions
[13:44] <mavericks> the problem is as follows. If I click the shutdown button in GUI, it will shutdown but 3 seconds later restarts again.
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> mavericks: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now     does it turn off?
[13:44] <mavericks> However, if i use command line "sudo shutdown -h now", it will be shutted down
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> mavericks: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:45] <mavericks> i have tried "laptop_mode_toos", no success
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> mavericks: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:45] <cfhowlett> mavericks cat /etc/issue
[13:46] <mavericks> cat / etc/issue is   Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[13:46] <donofrio> I guess what I'm asking for is - Does anyone know of a Magnifier Application for Unity?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> donofrio should be one in the Accessibility options
[13:46] <mavericks> nothing more just Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> mavericks: Saucy is EOL soon, I suggest you upgrade to Trusty soon
[13:47] <mavericks> haha, i am planning to, but i will be in next week. And Trusty may also have this bug..
[13:47] <hillary> how do redetect my keyboard in ubuntu 12.04
[13:48] <hillary> how to redetect key board in ubuntu 12.04
[13:48] <CatKiller> mavericks: When you say "it reboots" you mean like a "physical" reboot (you see the BIOS again) or it never really shutdowns: the system tries to halt but resumes operation
[13:48] <JC_SoCal> i have a 12.04 box and a usb 3.0 card in the PCI slow. However my speeds are only 26MB/s -- any idea where I should start to troubleshoot this?
[13:49] <CatKiller> JC_SoCal: What is plugged in onto that card
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> JC_SoCal: what is the output of:  uname -a
[13:49] <JC_SoCal> its a 4 port card -- with 1 WD USB3 HDD plugged in
[13:49] <mavericks> CatKiller: it reboots and even stays shutdown for about 3 seconds
[13:49] <JC_SoCal> Linux Karpo 3.8.0-35-generic #52~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 30 17:24:40 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:49] <bekks> JC_SoCal: 26MB/s when doing what?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> JC_SoCal: try the 3.11 kernel
[13:50] <CatKiller> mavericks: Sounds like your BIOS is configured to "automatically restart system after..."
[13:50] <CatKiller> Sometimes you have "power failure"
[13:50] <mavericks> .... unfortunately i did not find this configuration in the BIOS...
[13:50] <CatKiller> but I guess it could be that "automatically restart node after shutdown"
[13:50] <JC_SoCal> bekks:  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[13:50] <CatKiller> mavericks: Does this only happen with Ubuntu?
[13:51] <mavericks> yes only with ubuntu
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> mavericks: be sure you have the latest BIOS
[13:51] <bekks> JC_SoCal: Then you can consider yourself lucky to have those fast results.
[13:51] <CatKiller> mavericks: So with Windows for instance it doesn't happen?
[13:51] <JC_SoCal> bekks: is there a better way to test speeds?
[13:51] <mavericks> for windows it does not happen, very normal
[13:51] <CatKiller> JC_SoCal: Speed of what? What are you testing? a USB key?
[13:51] <bekks> JC_SoCal: How much RAM do you have?
[13:51] <JC_SoCal> WD USB3.0 hd
[13:51] <JC_SoCal> 8 gigs
[13:52] <mavericks> ActionParsnip: i did not check the version of BIOS
[13:52] <CatKiller> mavericks: I don't see how Ubuntu could affect it honestly. You even said that the machine physically powers off for three seconds
[13:52] <CatKiller> at that stage Ubuntu has no more "trace" left on your system
[13:52] <bekks> JC_SoCal: Then run the following: dd bs=16M count=640 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[13:52] <bekks> JC_SoCal: That will transfer 10GB in 16M blocks to your sdb
[13:52] <CatKiller> mavericks: Just to be clear: after it "reboots" on its own, you see the BIOS screen again: i.e. it really powers off totally?
[13:53] <mavericks> yeah, but the command line works for ubuntu to shutdown. i managed to do that. Before command line did not work either..
[13:53] <CatKiller> mavericks: The fact that the command line didn't work and now works sounds more like a fluke
[13:53] <mavericks> CatKiller: Yes, see the BIOS again
[13:53] <CatKiller> the code for shutting down isn't being changed very often
[13:54] <CatKiller> in fact it's very simple it sends a signal on a specific bus to tell the MB to shutdown
[13:54] <JC_SoCal> bekks: i'm now between 107MB and 111 MB/s
[13:54] <bekks> JC_SoCal: Wait for the result. Up to 8GB might be served from RAM cache.
[13:54] <CatKiller> mavericks: Maybe something else on the network in sending a Wake On Lan signal that gets interpreted by your NIC card? Try to shutdown completely disconnected from the network
[13:54] <JC_SoCal> bekks: can you explain the logic behind the BS vs my Ram?
[13:55] <mavericks> ok i try that now and come back
[13:55] <bekks> JC_SoCal: Well, consider you have 1M accessed already. Then this data will be in the RAM cache. If access it again, you will actually access RAM, not disk. Thats the short story.
[13:55] <mavericks> Thanks for your help.
[13:56] <bekks> JC_SoCal: for reliable dd tests, you have to use a block size near to the physical cache of the disk (which is about 16 to 32M nowadays) and you have to transfer more data than you have RAM to avoid caching effects.
[13:57] <JC_SoCal> 10737418240 bytes (11 GB) copied, 98.6371 s, 109 MB/s
[13:57] <bekks> JC_SoCal: Thats a pretty good value for USB3.
[13:57] <JC_SoCal> bekks: this helped a lot! thank you
[13:57] <hillary> my keyboard key like @ not detected ubuntu 12.04
[13:57] <JC_SoCal> bekks: would it be worthwile to find the cache size of my USB 3.0 HDD?
[13:58] <bekks> JC_SoCal: Can you pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please?
[13:59] <CatKiller> bekks: dd will most likely split those incredibly large chunks into smaller, 64K chunks anyways
[13:59] <Xano> I can really find whether Contacts supports Google sync or not. Some sources say it doesn't, some say it does. Some say to use Ubuntu One as a workaround, but I don't want to store my data in yet another place *and* that service will be shut down later this year anyway.
[13:59] <bekks> !pastebin | JC_SoCal
[13:59] <Xano> *I can't
[13:59] <CatKiller> bekks: really specifying 1MB chunks is perfect
[13:59] <bekks> CatKiller: Nope. The default withou bs= is 512 Bytes.
[13:59] <mavericks> CatKiller: i tried turn off networking, but it still rebooted.
[13:59] <CatKiller> bekks: In fact run the test for yourself. Using 1MB or 16MB is going to yielf the same performance
[13:59] <CatKiller> mavericks: So you unplugged the machine from the LAN right?
[14:00] <mavericks> i did not use LAN..
[14:00] <bekks> CatKiller: And specifying smaller chunks than the cache size is nonsense either, since it will unnecessarily increase cache preasure on the hdd cache.
[14:00] <mavericks> I used Wlan for network
[14:00] <JC_SoCal> bekks: paste.ubuntu.com/7235013/
[14:00] <bekks> CatKiller: In fact the best results I achieved where when I set the block size to the cache size.
[14:00] <CatKiller> mavericks: Ah sorry, so it couldn't be wake on lan then
[14:00] <mavericks> i disabled lan and wlan and tried to shutdown
[14:00] <JC_SoCal> CatKiller: i will try 1mb -- one sec
[14:00] <CatKiller> bekks: I'd be amazed at that. Since dd does split your blocks in smaller chunks anyways
[14:00] <mavericks> no problem. ;-)
[14:01] <bekks> JC_SoCal: could you pastebin "dmesg" as well please?
[14:01] <CatKiller> mavericks: it's a really complex problem and most likely hardware related. Good luck with that! If the command line works fine, use that instead. Maybe map a button to it
[14:01] <bekks> CatKiller: Which it doesnt when you specify bs
[14:01] <CatKiller> bekks: It does. If you don't specify it defaul;ts to 512B
[14:01] <CatKiller> when you specify 16M
[14:02] <CatKiller> the reality is that the actual block sent to the device will be smaller
[14:02] <CatKiller> I'm talking about the block IO
[14:02] <JC_SoCal> bekks: paste.ubuntu.com/7235019/
[14:02] <rt_91> hi , i am trying to build a webapplication, where i am trying to access the files from the ubuntu one cloud , while authentication. i am using the following url to https://login.ubuntu.com/api/1.0/authentications to authenticate cloud.
[14:02] <mavericks> CatKiller: thanks a lot, though. I will live with that. :-)
[14:02] <bekks> CatKiller: I strongly doubt that until you can prove that.
[14:03] <bekks> JC_SoCal: An URL starts with a resource locator. Use that please.
[14:03] <rt_91> it asks for username and password
[14:03] <rt_91> but when i am trying to use the same url
[14:03] <CatKiller> bekks: Doesn't matter to me ;) You can see for yourself by printing each BIO sent to the device
[14:03] <JC_SoCal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7235019/
[14:03] <CatKiller> you'll be syurprised at the result
[14:03] <CatKiller> doubt it's worth the effort anyways
[14:03] <rt_91> again it is not asking the username and password.
[14:04] <CatKiller> Or even easier: just compare results of 1MB vs 64MB (for drives with 64MiB of cache)
[14:04] <CatKiller> you should get the same
[14:04] <Pici> rt_91: 1) Ubuntu One is shutting down. 2) #ubuntu-app-devel would probably be a better place for this.
[14:05] <Yasminas> Hello, I can't figure out if Tp-Link TL-WN725N is linux-compatible or not  (I find contradicting info online). help please
[14:05] <bekks> CatKiller: Yeah, so I consider your statements as "I cannot prove it.". Thanks anyway.
[14:05] <donofrio> what channel here fields lightdm questions?  tried #lightdm but I was the only one in the channel?
[14:06] <CatKiller> bekks: OK. I did prove it though.
[14:06] <CatKiller> I gave you the exact test to run
[14:06] <CatKiller> in fact I'll run it myself here
[14:06] <rt_91> Pici:thanks
[14:06] <bekks> CatKiller: you didnt. you just said to do something, which is no prove at all, but a suggestion in best case. I'll move on now, since you cant prove your statements.
[14:07] <CatKiller> bekks: test is running
[14:07] <CatKiller> What I wouldn't do just to help a fellow user! :p
[14:07] <bekks> CatKiller: So you do you monitor block i/o sizes? :P
[14:08] <CatKiller> bekks: My test is simple: I run one test with bs= disk cache size
[14:08] <CatKiller> and one test with bs=1M
[14:08] <Yasminas> I have a machine with Lubuntu 13.10 , will TP-LINK TL-WN725N work on it?
[14:08] <CatKiller> if both test yielf exactly the same speed
[14:08] <CatKiller> then it's likely that using a bs > 1MiB has no effect
[14:08] <bekks> CatKiller: thats not what you suggested. you suggested to monitor data blocl sizes for block i/o when using dd.
[14:09] <CatKiller> bekks: And here are the results
[14:09] <CatKiller> http://bpaste.net/show/lXmaZInaI5u1nU91NjMf/
[14:09] <CatKiller> I suggested two things
 Or even easier: just compare results of 1MB vs 64MB (for drives with 64MiB of cache)
[14:09] <bekks> So bs=16M is faster. q.e.d.
[14:09] <CatKiller> No it's not
[14:10] <bekks> CatKiller: In my world, 128 is bigger than 126. In yours too?
[14:10] <CatKiller> 126MiB/sec vs 128MiB/sec
[14:10] <CatKiller> yes it's the same
[14:10] <CatKiller> you have a +/- margin in IO tests
[14:10] <CatKiller> the only way to get rid of this margin is to run the test 10000 times
[14:10] <Yasminas> nobody? is this not the right place to ask this question?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> !patience|Yasminas
[14:11] <CatKiller> also note that the second test would have a lot of blocks stored in cache
[14:11] <CatKiller> so it should have been a *lot* faster
[14:11] <bekks> CatKiller: How much RAM do you have?
[14:11] <CatKiller> 2.5G
[14:11] <CatKiller> 80184k buffers
[14:11] <bekks> Then point is, that when you using more data than your RAM can hold, you avoid caching effects.
[14:11] <CatKiller> there's 80MB that was buffered
[14:12] <CatKiller> bekks: That's why I used 5GiB
[14:12] <JC_SoCal> =)
[14:12] <bekks> Thats what I sai already. And caching 80M out of 2.5G can be safely ignored.
[14:12] <CatKiller> to ease the effects of cache
[14:12] <CatKiller> no it can't
[14:12] <CatKiller> it might account for 2MiB/sec
[14:12] <CatKiller> :p
[14:12] <JC_SoCal> thanks for your help bekks -- i'm getting back it it
[14:12] <JC_SoCal> to it*
[14:12] <bekks> CatKiller: Whatever you are talking about, all I can see is that you are pretty confused.
[14:13] <CatKiller> bekks: No you are confused :p
[14:13] <CatKiller> bekks: The proof is here
[14:13] <limey> having problem with torrents not starting. firewall isnt on. any ideas? fresh install of xubuntu. deluge and transmission both sit
[14:13] <CatKiller> large block size vs 1MiB block size: same speed
[14:13] <CatKiller> no noticeable improvement
[14:13] <bekks> CatKiller: so how big your hdd cache?
[14:13] <CatKiller> nothing that would prompt anyone to recommend 64MiB block size over 1MiB block size
[14:13] <CatKiller> 64MiB
[14:13] <francis_> CIao
[14:13] <CatKiller> let me restart the test with 64MiB
[14:14] <bekks> then use 64M instead of 16. Thats what I said. Do what you want, but dont tell me, I am not interested in continuing this pointless discussing with you anymore.
[14:14] <CatKiller> bekks: I am :)
[14:14] <CatKiller> It's not pointless
[14:14] <francis_> HI,there are italian in this chat??
[14:14] <CatKiller> you are spreading disinformation
[14:14] <CatKiller> :p
[14:14] <cfhowlett> !it|francis_
[14:14] <CatKiller> Ah, 125MB/sec with 64MiB
[14:15] <bekks> CatKiller: whatever. move on. last chance to avoid an ignore. I am not interested in any further conversation with you.
[14:15] <francis_> thank you ubottu
[14:15] <CatKiller> also it took us a while but while developping our SAS scsi target here we noticed that dd was a poor test compared to say xdd or even IO meter as it split the IOs in variable chunk size, regardless of the bs parameter
[14:16] <CatKiller> bekks: That's fine but please don't spread disinformation, it's counter productive
[14:17] <bekks> CatKiller: Well you spreading misinformation, since you a) where not using dd with a stock block device driver but b) using iscsi instead. So unless you face the fact that iscsi works different from stock block device drivers, please c) dont hilight me anymore and d) stop spreading misinformation.
[14:17] <CatKiller> iscsi? why? no it's a SATA drive
[14:18] <CatKiller> and when we noticed the dd behaviour it was while working on a SAS target
[14:18] <CatKiller> which is even more scsi than SATA could be ;)
[14:18] <bekks> Whatever. Ignore set.
[14:18] <CatKiller> nice :) Way to go!
[14:19] <CatKiller> I prefer #python because there people can actually suck it up when they said something wrong and learn from it
[14:19] <DrFoo> where do i set Disable Touchpad while Typing
[14:19] <cfhowlett> !attitude|CatKiller
[14:20] <CatKiller> cfhowlett: I doubt I've broken any of those guidelines.
[14:20] <k1l> !guidelines | CatKiller
[14:20] <junka> has ubuntu fixed the heartbleed bug?
[14:20] <k1l> read them please and stop making drama in here. thanks
[14:20] <CatKiller> I've read them yes. The only one that applies is "don't be annoying"
[14:20] <k1l> !sslbug | junka its fixed since 7th april
[14:20] <CatKiller> But really I'm just trying to help
[14:21] <cfhowlett> CatKiller and yet ...
[14:21] <junka> thanks k1l
[14:21] <freinhard> schultza: well i gave up on it. i used some sort of recovery environment but there i couldn't use e2fsprogs to do a filesystemcheck. since i had no other idea i just reinstalled the machine. works so far, but i'll keep an eye on it
[14:22] <freinhard> schultza: as a reminder: talking about openvpn getting deleted
[14:23] <limey> having problem with torrents not starting. firewall isnt on. any ideas? fresh install of xubuntu. deluge and transmission both just sit. #! and windows work fine on same network
[14:24] <peroht> Hi, i've got a situation. I used to have only one hd, with Ubuntu 12.04. A few months ago I disconnected that HD and inserted a flash hd, in which I installed ubuntu (root user password is now misplaced) and windows 7. I am not able to make the old hd boot in the grup list. What can I do about this?
[14:24] <peroht> grup = grub
[14:24] <limey> install boot-fix
[14:24] <peroht> the UUID in grub.cfg does not really.. bite
[14:25] <emily_walker> h
[14:26] <benzrf> hey
[14:26] <benzrf> when do debian packages come downstream
[14:27] <benzrf> there's one in unstable that i want o=
[14:27] <Pici> benzrf: Only during pre-production. We don't sync from debian after release.
[14:27] <benzrf> oh :I
[14:28] <benzrf> can i expect a pkg from unstable in TT?
[14:28] <benzrf> or just testing?
[14:28] <k1l> not if its not landed so far
[14:28] <benzrf> http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dmtcp/news/20140318T213443Z.html to be precise
[14:28] <baako> hello nerds
[14:28] <peroht> limey: is boot-fix  s/w in ubuntu?
[14:28] <benzrf> baako: hello nerd
[14:28] <peroht> limey: the only thing i can boot is the win7 part
[14:28] <baako> how is everyone doing
[14:29] <Pici> benzrf: just testing for an LTS, and it looks like trusty will have 1.2.5
[14:29] <k1l> benzrf: 14.04 got the final-freeze already. but for more 14.04 questions better see #ubuntu+1
[14:29] <baako> is everyone trying out 14.10?
[14:32] <limey> its ubuntu. boot from a live disk and sudo apt-get install boot-fix and follow the prompts
[14:32] <limey> theres tutorials online too. it will fix grub
[14:35] <Cheekio> I have a very new install of Ubuntu 13.10, and have the Nvidia Quadro K1100M graphics card. lscpi says it's "!!! Unknown header type 7f"
[14:36] <do0fY> hi all
[14:36] <Cheekio> what are the normal drivers I should be installing for Nvidia cards? Do I need to turn on non-free drivers in 13.10?
[14:36] <do0fY> i am completly new to ubuntu /linux and i am searching for a support channel in german. any infos?
[14:36] <Pici> do0fY: #ubuntu-de
[14:36] <bekks> do0fY: #ubuntu-de
[14:36] <do0fY> thank you
[14:36] <baako> I need a nice interface for ubuntu. I amm using gnome default it looks okay but could be great
[14:37] <SonikkuAmerica> baako: GNOME is not the default, Unity is
[14:37] <SonikkuAmerica> !unity
[14:37] <fami> How convert mips asm to x86 asm?
[14:40] <mentoc> I have Ubuntu running on my netbook. If I do a "man iptables", it merely shows me everything except for the matches (-m). Is there a package to install that?
[14:42] <ikonia> mentoc: man iptables will show you the man page
[14:42] <mentoc> ikonia: yes. But when I di 'man iptables' on my other machine, it shows all the match extensions
[14:42] <ikonia> which other system, is it the same distribution /
[14:42] <Cheekio> Is there any resource I can read on Nvidia? All I can find on google is 'how to install the latest development drivers!" when really just getting the thing working via the repo would be a billion times better
[14:42] <mentoc> both ubuntu
[14:43] <ikonia> mentoc: both the same version ?
[14:44] <mentoc> ikonia: I know the one that shows match extensions is 12.04
[14:44] <ikonia> mentoc: check the other one
[14:44] <ikonia> mentoc: as I see the match extensions info at the bottom of the man page in each distro I check
[14:44] <mentoc> k give me a minute.. gotta boot up
[14:44] <ikonia> (including non-ubuntu ones)
[14:44] <benzrf> Pici: by 1.2.5 do you mean the DMTCP version?
[14:45] <mentoc> Yeah, I don't know.
[14:45] <mentoc> let me get the version real quick through lsb_release
[14:48] <mentoc> ikonia: 13.10 is the problematic one. Let me double check to see if it's not there
[14:49]  * mentoc sigh
[14:50] <mentoc> ikonia: It's in 13.10 but unlike 12.04, it's in a separate man page called "iptables-extensions"
[14:52] <chadkouse> hey guys quick question.  I'm on 12.04.4 and having trouble getting the openssl patch installed.
[14:52] <chadkouse> This is what openssl version -a reports:
[14:52] <chadkouse> OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[14:52] <chadkouse> built on: Mon Apr  7 20:33:29 UTC 2014
[14:52] <kostkon> chadkouse, you are fine
[14:52] <chadkouse> but http://filippo.io/Heartbleed still says I'm vulnerable
[14:52] <kostkon> then
[14:53] <cfhowlett> chadkouse misreporting.  so long as your package date is post 04/07/14 ...
[14:53] <gvo> chadkouse: Me too.  Out of 6 servers that are identical one reports bad on filippo.  Go figure.
[14:54] <chadkouse> ok thanks
[14:55] <kostkon> chadkouse, reboot your server
[14:57] <Kinder-Pingvi> hi all )
[14:57] <linux2> hey Kinder-Pingvi
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Kinder-Pingvi greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[14:57] <dumblinbud> Hello guys. How can I use grep to filter an specific IP address? grep 10.10.10.10 (example) doesn´t work because of the "."
[14:59] <j4son> escape the .'s with \
[14:59] <dumblinbud> j4son:
[14:59] <keevitaja> is there an alternative for official skype? i need only the instant messaging part
[14:59] <dumblinbud> so, grep 10\.10\.10\.10 ?
[14:59] <j4son> that'll work
[14:59] <cfhowlett> keevitaja (as always) look in the software center.
[14:59] <j4son> you can use string literal -F option as well
[15:00] <j4son> i.e.. grep -F "10.10.10.10" foo
[15:00] <cfhowlett> keevitaja seriously, that is first the place to look for software.
[15:01] <dumblinbud> thanks.
[15:01] <j4son> cheers
[15:01] <Centinel> I've been given a 2010-era Mac Mini, and I'd like to dual-boot Ubuntu and OS X. I've already installed rEFInd, and that seems to work well enough. However, I'm experiencing a strange problem with text corruption in 12.04. The longer I use the OS, the more characters start getting replaced by foreign characters.
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !mac
[15:02] <chulis> hello ¿how can I cancel system message pop up for example a mail notifer o the status battery? sorry for my english
[15:02] <chulis> im with lubuntu
[15:02] <keevitaja> cfhowlett: it gives me only pidgin plugin which still requires ms skype to be open. i checked this allready before
[15:02] <Centinel> Thanks cfhowlett.
[15:03] <ubuser> hi all
[15:03] <ubuser> little q': someone knows why i can't delete pop(ping) mail in fresh installed thunderbird within ubuntu 13.10 ?
[15:04] <ubuser> would be 12.04.04 LTS solve that?
[15:04] <ubuser> s/be/using
[15:05] <ubuser> anyone? :)
[15:05] <chadkouse> it's kinda weird if this is bad reporting because that website shows the output of it's test and you can see the exploit
[15:05] <chadkouse> and I rebooted
[15:07] <Joe_knock> Hello. I am trying to burn a CD to a DVD (a linux cd) using K3B, but for some reason, it doesn't want to "load" the DVD
[15:09] <vfw> Joe_knock: Just use a CD.
[15:10] <cfhowlett> vfw nope.  cd is too small for ubuntu ISO
[15:10] <Joe_knock> vfw: I need to install linux onto a bigger disk as I would like to boot to it for special usage
[15:10] <ubuser> use a usbstick
[15:10] <cfhowlett> !usb|joe-w-bimedina_
[15:10] <ubuser> empty one...
[15:10] <Joe_knock> isn't booting to a USB stick complicated?
[15:10] <vfw> Joe_knock: Or, as ubuser suggests, a USB drive
[15:10] <ubuser> nope
[15:10] <ubuser> depends the motherboard/bios settings, mostly fine
[15:10] <vfw> Joe_knock: NOt if your computer supports booting to USB
[15:10] <ubuser> check the manual :D
[15:11] <vfw> Joe_knock: USB is easier IMO
[15:11] <DaemonicApathy> Also, the USB drive must be created correctly. Other than that, smooth sailing.
[15:11] <ubuser> anyone knows why i cant delete pop account mails on thunderbird/ubuntu13.10? :P
[15:11] <baako> is it better to use apt-ge or apt-fast?
[15:11] <ubuser> and your not wasting media...
[15:11] <Joe_knock> well I'm not really sure why I can't burn a disk from CD to DVD. I thought this would be straightfoward
[15:11] <ubuser> '..'
[15:12] <baako> in terms of download and upgrade speed and what r the difference?
[15:12] <Joe_knock> baako, in what way "better"?
[15:12] <vfw> Joe_knock: I don't know, but a USB stick is a viable alternative.
[15:12] <DaemonicApathy> Joe_knock: if you save the CD as an ISO first, I don't see an issue.
[15:12] <ubuser> true
[15:12] <vfw> Joe_knock: But if you have a CD-R, why not use it?
[15:13] <ubuser> anyone can confirm that he can delete pop mails in thunderbird under 13.10 or 12.04 LTS ?
[15:13] <ubuser> :D
[15:13] <vfw> Joe_knock: What version of Ubuntu are you running? (or what version of k3b?)
[15:13] <DaemonicApathy> ubuser: How are you going about deleting it?
[15:13] <ubuser> use a cdr and pass the disc to someone other after :)
[15:13] <Joe_knock> vfw: I am going to be mounting the disk and installing some software on it. Similar to using a temporary linux
[15:13] <Joe_knock> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:14] <ubuser> DaemonicApathy: i try just to del/backspace /right click->delete mail ... :( all the ways... even drag&drop to trashcan doesn't work
[15:14] <vfw> Joe_knock: What?  You are wanting to re-master the ISO?
[15:14] <chulis> hello ¿somebody use lubuntu here?
[15:14] <cfhowlett> chulis ask your questions
[15:14] <ubuser> hm.... permission issues? i installed thunderbird through the software catalog...
[15:15] <baako> joe_knock so
[15:15] <Joe_knock> vfw: Similar to using linux from USB, I will be using it from DVD
[15:15] <DaemonicApathy> Could be a function of the actual mail host, I suppose - not supporting deletion via client.
[15:15] <ubuser> its a pop account...
[15:15] <baako> !apt-get joe_knock
[15:15] <vfw> Joe_knock: I still do not understand what you are trying to say.
[15:16] <ubuser> so the mails are imho in local storage
[15:16] <DaemonicApathy> ubuser: I prefer 13.04 myself atm, so unfortunately I can't test on the versions you're asking about.
[15:16] <vfw> Joe_knock: Oh, you are going to install Ubuntu to a USB drive?
[15:16] <Joe_knock> baako I suppose apt-fast probably means what it says. Although I haven't used it before and apt-get works fine for me.
[15:16] <ubuser> DaemonicApathy: it works on my other account which is imap
[15:16] <ubuser> cool, so that works for you? i think i go for the LTS version and see it there ;)
[15:16] <Joe_knock> vfw: no. I am going to install ubuntu onto a disk, mount the disk image, install some software on it and then use that disk as a temporary linux
[15:17] <vfw> Joe_knock: What do you mean, temporary linux?
[15:17] <DaemonicApathy> vfw: Live disc
[15:17] <vfw> Joe_knock: Why not just do an install to a USB drive?
[15:17] <Joe_knock> vfw: My system is too slow for virtualbox, so I will run linux on a disk instead.
[15:18] <Joe_knock> vfw: I currently don't have a spare USB drive to use.
[15:18] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock not likely to be satisfactory.  consider using lubuntu or xubuntu - easier on your system
[15:18] <DaemonicApathy> Joe_knock: Afaik, in order to get installed packages into an optical Live Disc, you need to include them at creation, essentially making a custom distro. Can someone confirm/dispute?
[15:18] <troyp> Hello. I'm having trouble upgrading openssl. After doing sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:18] <ubuser> puppy linux on a usb thumbdrive :D
[15:19] <troyp> and then a reboot, it's still saying 1.0.1c
[15:19] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: That is what I am doing. I am going to burn Xubuntu 12.04 onto a DVD from a CD. I just said ubuntu 12.04 in case anyone said "ask in xubuntu"
[15:19] <ubuser> i think so too, like DaemonicApathy says
[15:20] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock be aware that running from dvd/cd = running in ram.  Highly unlikely to be overly speedy.
[15:20] <DaemonicApathy> troyp: apt-get install libssl1.0.0
[15:20] <DaemonicApathy> Then check.
[15:21] <ubuser> i think persistence is mostly only for data and not the system, unless u use something like puppy linux which loads additional 'modules' on startup
[15:21] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: What about running from USB?
[15:21] <vfw> Joe_knock: You don't even have a thumb drive?
[15:21] <chulis> I use lubuntu how can I change the meesage time (pop up) of the system for ex. new mail, battery status etc ¿I would like make this mesage smaller
[15:21] <GreyBit> what is ubuntu's source code language?
[15:21] <troyp> libssl1.0.0 is already the newest version.
[15:21] <troyp> DaemonicApathy: ^
[15:21] <Joe_knock> vfw: I do. But they are being used elsewhere.
[15:21] <Pici> !sslbug | troyp
[15:21] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock same issue = same result.  why not a normal install to the HDD?
[15:21] <ubuser> running from ram? ubuntu?... not really imho
[15:21] <ubuser> it accesses the drive anytime...
[15:22] <cfhowlett> ubuser booting from cd/usb means it's running in ram ---
[15:22] <ubuser> puppy runs from ram, haha
[15:22] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: Would virtualbox be able to run an instance of Xubuntu on 1GB of RAM?
[15:22] <ubuser> okk
[15:22] <ubuser> sorry
[15:22] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock yes - 32 bit
[15:22] <kriskropd> I want to try out http://sourceforge.net/projects/smasher/ but I can't seem to get over several dependency hurdles - does anyone know how I might obtain libcsound64-5.1 to downgrade from libcsound64-5.2 ?
[15:22] <Joe_knock> perhaps I should use virtualbox then.
[15:23] <marlo> bit new to bash... prototyping something... how do i get myBashFile.sh to call myBashFile.sh without spawning a new process?
[15:23] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock worth a try
[15:23] <hiram> Joe_knock yes it would 32 or 64 bit depending on how much RAM you allocate
[15:23] <ubuser> virtualization helps a lot :)
[15:23] <Joe_knock> kriskropd: you can delete the current libcsound and install the older version by doing a manual install
[15:24] <Joe_knock> hiram: the system itself is running xubuntu, so perhaps a xubuntu within xubuntu could share 500MB each.
[15:25] <DaemonicApathy> Whoever was having the POP issue, just deleted all my Facebook notifications with no issue - Thunderbird 24.2.0 ; Ubuntu 13.04
[15:25] <kriskropd> Joe_knock: so then, it's just a matter of actually locating libcsound64-5.1 library file? ... https://packages.debian.org/sid/libcsound64-5.1   I've a feeling I would just break something if all I installed was that - is there somewhere I could go to see what needs to be done to port smasher from csound 5.1 to 5.2?
[15:26] <hiram> Joe_knock 32 bit it is
[15:27] <Joe_knock> kriskropd: from what I read of that package, it sounds like something I wouldn't want to try uninstalling on a working system. Perhaps you can do what I am trying to do and first attempt this in a virtualbox environment.
[15:27] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock go with lubuntu.  it's optimized for low/old specification systems
[15:28] <ubuser> DaemonicApathy: Thanks a lot :)
[15:28] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: I think xubuntu is too. It runs pretty fast on my 10+ year old laptop
[15:29] <ubuser> DaemonicApathy: so your facebook mail is configured as a pop account :) ?
[15:29] <DaemonicApathy> ubuser: The email I use to receive them, yes.
[15:29] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: Even if you "mount" the CD image of linux on disk, will it still run in RAM? Or is that what "mounting" is?
[15:29] <ubuser> DaemonicApathy: cool, many thanks for trying out, i'll check my version when i get to ;)
[15:29] <ubuser> bye all have a good one
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock mounting makes it available, but it's not read into ram
[15:30] <DaemonicApathy> ubuser: Alright, glad to help. Perhaps worth mentioning that the host for that one is MS Live
[15:31] <ubuser> DaemonicApathy: ok, but i think for every pop account it drops the mail on local storage ;
[15:31] <ubuser> ;)
[15:31] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: There was some instructions with the 12.04 that specified mounting the disk to install grub2. What I couldn't understand was how software was installed onto the disk if the disk itself is "readable" only.
[15:31] <Joe_knock> i'll brb.
[15:31] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock those instructions are for installing grub to the HDD
[15:32] <ubuser> DaemonicApathy: gonna check permissions and stuff first ;) thanks for testing, keeps my sure about a system version change ;)
[15:33] <ubuser> cye dudes
[15:35] <chulis> h
[15:36] <chulis> l
[15:37] <chulis> pp
[15:37] <chulis> 11111
[15:37] <chulis> 22
[15:38] <Pici> chulis: stop that.
[15:38] <chulis> 66
[15:38] <cfhowlett> !ops|chulis
[15:39] <tona> hi guys
[15:39] <cfhowlett> tona greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[15:40] <tona> how can i fix one filesystem crash is there one way to fix it please unfortunately the backup battery doesnt work
[15:40] <vfw> tona: fsck
[15:41] <tona> just fsck run
[15:41] <chulis> 5
[15:41] <IdleOne> !fsck
[15:42] <benzrf> if i want to get dmtcp 2 in ubuntu, is there any way to apply for it to be in the repos?
[15:43] <tona> ok
[15:43] <tona> let me try fsck
[15:43] <vfw> !info dmtcp | benzrf
[15:43] <benzrf> they are up to 2.x
[15:43] <benzrf> debian unstable has the pkg
[15:44] <vfw> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dmtcp/files/dmtcp-2.x/
[15:45] <vfw> benzrf: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[15:45] <remd> Hello, I have run apt-get upgrade on 12.04 and udev is now in "status half-configured udev 175-0ubuntu9.5" and I have tried about 500 diff things to try fix it for about 2 weeks without success, I have no idea what more I can do. Does anyone have any experience with this ?
[15:45] <JaySlaven> hello
[15:45] <otaner> ciao a tutti
[15:45] <otaner> !list
[15:45] <JaySlaven> i did sudo apt-get install flgrx gksu
[15:46] <JaySlaven> is that the latest update
[15:46] <benzrf> vfw: saucy atm
[15:46] <remd> so apt-get doesnt work anymore at this point..
[15:46] <vfw> benzrf: Just compile from source.
[15:46] <benzrf> vfw: but im making a software that depends on dmtcp
[15:46] <JaySlaven> ok
[15:46] <vfw> remd: Upgradding from _____________ to _______________ ?
[15:46] <benzrf> so id like to have a way to tell people who will use it how to get it
[15:46] <JaySlaven> how to i install the latest drivers
[15:46] <remd> I can only install or upgrade packages manually with dpkg -i if they dont depend on udev
[15:46] <hylian> i want to know how I set up remmina, in particular, where do i put the username and password so my buddy can connect to my desktop.
[15:46] <remd> not sure from udev v9 to 9.5 apparently
[15:48] <vfw> !info udev | remd
[15:49] <benzrf> !version
[15:49] <benzrf> lsb?
[15:49] <JaySlaven> how to install the latest amd catalyst on ubuntu
[15:50] <remd> apt-cache shows packags 9.5 then 9
[15:51] <remd> lsb Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[15:51] <Pici> !who
[15:51] <benzrf> !ldb
[15:51] <yeats> !ati | JaySlaven
[15:51] <benzrf> !lsb
[15:51] <hoihe> Ahoy
[15:51] <hoihe> Wrong chat
[15:51] <hoihe> Still, ahoy! But ignore me
[15:52] <remd> apt-cache shows packags 9.5 then 9 | vfw
[15:54] <JaySlaven> yeats: how do i know if i have the latest drivers?
[15:54] <hylian> is there a way for me to test remmina so I know how to use it. This program is anything but straight forward. And the documentation for it is horrible.
[15:55] <Joe_knock> hylian: What does that software do?
[15:57] <hylian> Joe_knock: remmina is a remote desktop tool. You can work on another machine elsewhere with it. I want to fix my uncle chucks computer with it. he lives very far away.
[15:57] <kostkon> hylian, try teamviewer
[15:58] <Joe_knock> aah okay. remote desktops. That stuff can be a bit complicated to use. Let me try having a look.
[15:59] <Joe_knock> hylian: Which part are you stuck on?
[16:00] <tona> hello guys
[16:01] <JaySlaven> is there a command to install ts3
[16:01] <limey> hylian
[16:01] <tona> i have some vg missing i am not start ubuntu is there one way to fix it ? to start my console
[16:02] <limey> i would use teamviewer
[16:02] <kostkon> JaySlaven, just make the .run file executable and then run it
[16:02] <JaySlaven> ok
[16:02] <hylian> limey: yes?
[16:02] <limey> your uncle can dl the client off their website
[16:02] <vfw> tona: WHat is "vg"?
[16:02] <limey> easy connection
[16:02] <Joe_knock> limey: Is that web-based?
[16:02] <tona> volumes group
[16:02] <kostkon> JaySlaven, right click, then properties, then permissions, then enable allow to execute etc.
[16:02] <JaySlaven> ok
[16:02] <limey> it runs locally
[16:02] <vfw> tona: What is volumes group?
[16:03] <Joe_knock> open source? limey
[16:03] <limey> you can install it in linux if you want
[16:03] <limey> no, but free
[16:03] <hylian> Joe_knock: I just need to know if i need a username and password for rdp, and if so  where do you put it on the other computer (i.e. the computer I want to connect to)
[16:03] <remd> has anyone any advice for a apt-get stuck by a package in hlaf-configured status ?
[16:03] <Joe_knock> let me bookmark it.
[16:03] <tona> ok one VG is serveral hard disk physicall on same box
[16:03] <bekks> remd: It tells you an error.
[16:03] <limey> its the best remote desktop tool
[16:03] <limey> and cross platform
[16:04] <limey> works on ios and android too
[16:04] <hylian> kostkon: does temaviewer need a username and password to connect via rdp? if so, i don't see an advantage.
[16:04] <tona> i have some Volumes Group  missing i am not start ubuntu is there one way to fix it ? to start my console, i have the volumes group but for any reason ubuntu is not able to read it why
[16:04] <kostkon> hylian, does not use rdp
[16:04] <Joe_knock> hylian: if you're connecting to another PC remotely, I don't think they need to be entering any info. Perhaps they may need to lower firewall settings, etc. but no usernames/passwords
[16:04] <bekks> limey: teamviewer and crossplatform is bad joke. Actually the 64bit variant is nothing else than a 32 bit wine executing a 32 bit teamviewer. And calling wine to be "crossplatform" is blasphemious ;)
[16:04] <hylian> kostkon: i need to see his desktop, and fix things on it.
[16:05] <kostkon> hylian, if you use rdp uncle will have to open a port in his router. teamviewer is a more appropriate and simpler solution imo
[16:05] <bekks> remd: Keep it in the channel please.
[16:05] <kostkon> your*
[16:05] <kostkon> hylian, teamviewer.com
[16:05] <remd> ok
[16:05] <hylian> kostkon: ok i will take a look
[16:05] <remd> no it just stays stuck showing Setting up udev (175-0ubuntu9.5)  and the logs show status half-configured udev 175-0ubuntu9.5 | bekks
[16:05] <Joe_knock> opening ports :O :D :-/
[16:06] <tona> could someone help me how could i mount the Volumes Group again to start my ubuntu console , i am using a live cdrom to start my console but how could i reload my volumes group again to fix it
[16:06] <vfw> remd: sudo apt-get -f install
[16:06] <bekks> tona: you mount logical volumes in volume groups, not volume groups itself.
[16:06] <tona> yes you are right how could i reload it
[16:06] <bekks> tona: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[16:07] <vfw> tona: Is it chroot you need?
[16:07] <remd> vfw: I tried all these apt-get -f   dpkg configure -a etc etc… but it just stays stuck at that package
[16:07] <bekks> remd: Provide the output in a pastebin then.
[16:07] <vfw> remd: Show us the output.  (paste it)
[16:08] <remd> :vfw http://pastebin.com/RpQS7sd3
[16:09] <remd> :vfw I also tried to mark hold the package to be able to update others but that didnt work, it still want to update udev
[16:09] <vfw> remd: Is that all?
[16:09] <remd> yep
[16:09] <vfw> remd: What are you trying to do that is not getting done?
[16:09] <remd> :vfw: dpg.log shows status half-configured udev 175-0ubuntu9.5
[16:10] <vfw> remd: (Show us)
[16:10] <vfw> remd: dpkg-reconfigure udev
[16:11] <remd> :vfw pkg-reconfigure udev
[16:11] <remd> :vfw /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: udev is broken or not fully installed
[16:11] <vfw> remd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure udev
[16:11] <remd> I am root already (sudo -s)
[16:11] <remd> :vfw I am root already (sudo -s)
[16:12] <hylian> kostkon: teamviewer doesn't install properly. It needs an outdated library, lib32asound2
[16:13] <remd> :vfw I'll paste some more infoes
[16:13] <remd> -e
[16:13] <vfw> remd: sudo apt-get install --reinstall udev
[16:14] <vfw> remd: But without seeing the error messages, we are just guessing.
[16:15] <remd> :vfw I don't see any error either that has been my biggest issue… here is the paste from that last command: http://pastebin.com/j17gtN1D
[16:15] <hylian> kostkon: i take that back, the 64 bit version doesn't work, the 32 bit multiarch works like a dream
[16:15] <vfw> hylian: How are you trying to install it?
[16:15] <limey> hylian, install 32bit packa and extract it and run from location; no install neededge, or get the generic linux package
[16:15] <remd> :vfw it just stays forever at setting up udev ..
[16:15] <TeraJL> how can i get libbass.so? i can't run a program because i'm missing it
[16:16] <vfw> !paste | remd
[16:16] <remd> :vfw and logs show it is in a hlaf installed state… I don't have more infos..
[16:16] <limey> what the heck! gerneric linux package when extracted allows you to run it without install
[16:16] <limey> the 32 bit package is installable I think. I have it installed and remember that error. one of the other packages allowed installation
[16:17] <vfw> remd: Show us.  (paste what you see in the terminal)
[16:18] <remd> :vfw http://pastebin.com/XdePy49R
[16:18] <remd> :vfw ok hold on...
[16:22] <vfw> remd: apt-get autoremove
[16:28] <hylian> kostkon: thanks, teamviewer is perfect! :)
[16:28] <remd> :vfw http://pastebin.com/qEAe9UJT
[16:29] <vfw> remd: cat /etc/issue   #what does that say?
[16:30] <remd> :vfw Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[16:32] <vfw> remd: So, is it fixed?
[16:33] <remd> :vfw no I still can't use apt-get as it gets stuck with the udev update
[16:33] <vfw> Or does it just sit there ...?
[16:34] <chulis> nybody knows if is possible to maketh advices of system smaller for exemple new mail, battery status  etc?a
[16:34] <remd> :vfw everytime I use apt-getit will get stuck at the udev update -- eventhough I marked to ignore that pakage. I guess that was already too late.
[16:34]  * osam waves hello
[16:35] <remd> :vfw last time this happend I reinstalled the server after searching for abotu a week. but now I have a lot more to reinstall so I would loose a lot of time if i have to resintall it… :/
[16:35] <vfw> remd: This is server?
[16:36] <JenniferB3> Hi folks! I am trying to install ubuntu ... but I get this issue with the nouvou when booting from the cd to install ubuntu ... it is 13.04 ... is this a known issue?
[16:36] <chulis> notificationes i mean
[16:36] <remd> yea vs server
[16:36] <vfw> ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev*list
[16:36] <remd> :vfw vs server
[16:36] <vfw> remd ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev*list
[16:37] <vfw> Show us what it says...
[16:37] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[16:37] <remd> :vfw /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev.list
[16:37] <remd> :vfw thats what it showing with that ls
[16:38] <Tetracomm> I am about to install Ubuntu (64 bit) on a 64 bit laptop, would I be better off with ext3 or ext4, where performance and reliability are concerned?
[16:38] <kostkon> Tetracomm, ext4...
[16:39] <yuri__> can anyone give me a hand?
[16:39] <remd> :vfw: if its of any interest http://pastebin.com/KHG4TEaw
[16:40] <JenniferB3> anyyyyone?? :(
[16:41] <yuri__> how can i install ubuntu 13.10 alongside windows 8
[16:41] <yuri__> ??
[16:41] <vfw> remd: dpkg -r udev
[16:41] <yuri__> do i have to partition my hd before install linux?
[16:41] <eSgr> hi all
[16:41] <yuri__> eSgr: hey
[16:41] <vfw> apt-cache policy udev
[16:41] <eSgr> does somebody know if timo aaltonen is here?
[16:42] <vfw> remd: apt-cache policy udev
[16:42] <remd> :vfw I have done that and it removed it, I did however have to force it because of the dependencies (its somewhere in the long pastebim)
[16:42] <remd> :vfw ok I'll try that
[16:42] <vfw> remd: apt-get install udev
[16:43] <marc_v92> I'm trying to set up a local server that's vulnerable to Heartbleed for testing, but I can't figure out how to install a specific version that's vulnerable (1.0.1f). I'm running Ubuntu Server 13.10 x86_64
[16:44] <remd> :vfw: http://pastebin.com/n5VqAQqQ
[16:44] <eSgr> marc_v92, use the chance to compile it
[16:44] <eSgr> not that difficult, and you will learn a lot
[16:44] <KyouReeUs4nfo> marc_v92: it's already patched I think
[16:45] <remd> :vfw logs show status half-configured udev 175-0ubuntu9.5 when running the apt install
[16:45] <marc_v92> KyouReeUs4nfo: I work for a large corporation, and we're running some internal security audits, so I need an unpatched version.
[16:45] <marc_v92> eSgr: I know how to compile software, I just can't find the version I need.
[16:46] <KyouReeUs4nfo> marc_v92: sudo apt-get policy openssl, if it shows more than one version, you may revert back to old one
[16:46] <vfw> remd: Maybe you need to turn udev off first.  I don't know but you could try.  service udev stop
[16:46] <eSgr> clone the git repo, checkout the right version
[16:47] <vfw> remd: At any rate, I have to go for now...
[16:47] <remd> :vfw hmm not sure it will let me. I'll try
[16:47] <remd> :vfw ok thx for your help anyway!
[16:47] <T_t> hi guy I have a question I have a laptop hp 15t j063cl but my wireless is not working I thought to update the kernel to see if that could fix this problem.
[16:48] <FourFire> Hello, version 12.04, I input this command: "sudo apt-add-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"" and now something is broken and I can't install or remove anything without getting an error about something something line 60
[16:48] <T_t> could you guys give a I idea how to fix this problem ?
[16:48] <FourFire> How do I fix this?
[16:50] <T_t> hi guy I have a question I have a laptop hp 15t j063cl but my wireless is not working I thought to update the kernel to see if that could fix this problem.
[16:50] <T_t> could you guys give a I idea how to fix this problem ?
[16:51] <jhutchins> T_t: WHich release are you running?  What chipset is the wireless?
[16:51] <T_t> 12.04 bcm43xx
[16:51] <T_t> ubuntu 12.04 bcm43xx
[16:52] <jhutchins> FourFire: Your text has three double-quotes in it.  The actual text of the error message is important (ie which file line 60 is bad in).
[16:52] <remd> fwiw service udev stop or restart hangs ..
[16:52] <remd> so no luck stopping it to update it..
[16:52] <KyouReeUs4nfo> marc_v92: sudo apt-cache policy openssl  (srry typed apt-get earlier)
[16:52] <FourFire> jhutchins, I'll try to install something and then quote it
[16:53] <jhutchins> remd: Colon goes after the nic.
[16:53] <marc_v92> KyouReeUs4nfo: Thanks! Nothing showed up, but I found the tarball for it, so I'm currently compiling it manually.
[16:53] <jhutchins> T_t: That should work with the stock kernel.
[16:54] <T_t> it doesn't :(
[16:54] <jhutchins> T_t:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:54] <remd> : jhutchins thx I'm however tryint to fix an apt-get issue with udev not udpating the nic
[16:54] <FourFire> jhutchins, sudo apt-add-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" is the command text, and i can't open software center
[16:54] <juboba> hello. I would like to replace networkmanager with wicd. I tried removing networkmanager and installing wicd, but didn't work
[16:54] <FourFire> it automatically closes
[16:55] <remd> bbl
[16:56] <jhutchins> FourFire: try sudo aptitude update in a console.
[16:56] <FourFire> jhutchins, is there some error log I can locate for you?
[16:56] <jhutchins> FourFire: or apt-get, aptitude may not be installed.
[16:57] <FourFire> sudo apt-add-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[16:57] <FourFire> E: Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[16:57] <FourFire> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[16:57] <FourFire> that's the error
[16:57] <jhutchins> FourFire: Ok, open /etc/apt/sources.list and see if there's a line 60
[16:57] <jhutchins> FourFire: Don't keep repeating the apt-add command, you'll mess things up.
[16:58] <amirchandrapady> how to install opencv blobs in ubuntu
[16:58] <FourFire> jhutchins, the line reads: deb http://archive.canonical.com/precise partner
[16:59] <FourFire> should it be deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/precise partner ?
[17:00] <jhutchins> FourFire: Does it look like the other lines?  Is there a line after it?
[17:00] <FourFire> or perhaps removed entirely?
[17:00] <juboba> any ideas
[17:00] <juboba> ?
[17:00] <FourFire> there's a 61 which is exactly the line I just suggested
[17:00] <jhutchins> FourFire: deb-src is for source code only.
[17:00] <FourFire> no other lines past that
[17:01] <jhutchins> FourFire: the apt system apparently thinks there's something wrong with that line.  WHat about other lines in the file?
[17:01] <jhutchins> juboba: Did you stop network-manager and start wicd?
[17:02] <FourFire> I don't know what it's supposed to look like, but there's nothing obviously wrong
[17:02] <juboba> jhutchins, yes
[17:02] <juboba> let me try again
[17:02] <FourFire> apart from two lines with only one # symbol behind them
[17:02] <FourFire> the others have two
[17:03] <jhutchins> FourFire: Is there supposed to be a space between the url and precise?
[17:03] <juboba> how should I stop network manager?
[17:03] <juboba> with service networking stop?
[17:03] <jhutchins> juboba: How about sudo service network-manager stop
[17:03] <juboba> ok
[17:04] <jhutchins> juboba: No, that would shut down networking completely.
[17:04] <juboba> my bad
[17:04] <juboba> and to start wicd?
[17:04] <juboba> with systemd algo?
[17:04] <juboba> also?
[17:04] <jhutchins> juboba: service
[17:06] <FourFire> jhutchins, ok I think I've got it, there is a missing ubuntu in that url
[17:07] <juboba> *Starting Network connection manager wicd
[17:07] <juboba> ... fail!
[17:07] <FourFire> now, how do I sudo gedit on that file?
[17:07] <`ryban> Greetings! :)
[17:07] <CryptDrift> Hey guys when is 14.04 expected to ship
[17:08] <juboba> jhutchins, the logs say nothing
[17:08] <juboba> jhutchins, actually there's no files under /var/log/wicd
[17:08] <gareppa> CryptDrift: around the end of april i think
[17:09] <CryptDrift> gareppa, thanks ;-) :D
[17:09] <Ruiseart> CryptDrift: 17 april
[17:09] <CryptDrift> Ruiseart, thanks a lot
[17:09] <CryptDrift> wow its so close
[17:10] <FourFire> jhutchins, I've got an edit I want to try, how do I sudo, open gedit on that file?
[17:10] <KyouReeUs4nfo> marc_v92: one can unpatch a patched version by looking at diff of sourcecode of d1_both.c and t1_lib.c http://git.openssl.org/gitweb/?p=openssl.git;a=commit;h=96db9023b881d7cd9f379b0c154650d6c108e9a3
[17:10] <gareppa> sudo gedit filename
[17:11] <jhutchins> juboba: It probably logs to daemons and syslog
[17:12] <cerb> Hi folks, Ubuntu newbie here - can anyone tell me how to install ddrescue via apt-get please?
[17:12] <jhutchins> cerb: aot-get install ddrescue
[17:12] <jhutchins> FourFire: Got it?
[17:13] <jhutchins> s/aot/apt
[17:13] <cerb> jhutchins thanks, I juget get E: Unable to lcoate package ddrescue
[17:13] <cerb> er typos aside
[17:14] <gareppa> 14.04 is a lts
[17:14] <cerb> I'm running the Live CD version to try and do some recovery, but can't seem to install the ddrescue package
[17:14] <halfie> hello! does Ubuntu 14.04 works well on 15" MacBook Pro (late 2013 model)?
[17:15] <gareppa> i don't think you can do that with live cd...
[17:15] <halfie> I wanted to get this right before I wipe away OS X ;)
[17:15] <cerb> you can install packages to the local ramdisk
[17:15] <gareppa> oh
[17:15] <cerb> I did it with mdadm anyway
[17:15] <juboba> jhutchins, nothing
[17:16] <cerb> was hoping I'd be able to install ddrescue too, but no cigar for some reason
[17:17] <FourFire> jhutchins, I think it's fixed, thanks for your help, and you too gareppa
[17:23] <jhutchins> cerb: gddrescue
[17:23] <jhutchins> cerb: g for Gnu
[17:25] <cerb> jhutchins: thanks, but - E: Unable to locate package gddrescue
[17:25] <cerb> any ideas appreciated
[17:26] <dogex> hi
[17:27] <dioioib> hello
[17:27] <RahulAN> Hii
[17:27] <dogex> listbox
[17:28] <guye> I have one problem. All files in my folders are clocks (icons)
[17:31] <guye> My icons are clocks, all folders.  I have a problem
[17:32] <guye>  My icons are clocks, all folders.  I have a problem. Please
[17:32] <dioioib> guye: http://www.distrogeeks.com/change-folder-icon-ubuntu/
[17:32] <TedJoynes> Is there any chance I could fire up a Virtual Box VM from shell?
[17:33] <TedJoynes> I can't get to the gui .. but I can get into SSH on the host machine.  Heck I guess if I could get VNC to connect with shell commands that'd work too.
[17:33] <dioioib> TedJoynes: startx
[17:34] <TedJoynes> dioioib: That would startx in an SSH shell
[17:34] <dioioib> then you need to edit your rc files.
[17:35] <dioioib> TedJoynes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/336272/how-is-ubuntu-live-user-graphical-session-startx-started-up-in-a-livecd
[17:35] <TedJoynes> Ok. I have a machine running xwindows and virtual box. I am remote. I have SSH but VNC is refusing connections. Can I start a VM from SSH or even get VNC reset to allow connections.
[17:36] <dioioib> so it is your VNC that is the problem?
[17:36] <TedJoynes> Sure that's a problem as well.. My goal is starting a VM inside VirtualBox on an Ubuntu 12.04 machine.
[17:36] <dioioib> well I don't think you can start the VM remote because the VM would already need to be running to SSH into it.
[17:37] <dioioib> you would need access to the machine that hosts the VM
[17:37] <TedJoynes> dioioib: The goal would be to pass a command to virtual box host to start the VM
[17:37] <TedJoynes> dioioib: K. Lets pretend I have SSH access to the machine that hosts the VM? Now what.
[17:37] <dioioib> so you want to PXE boot your VM
[17:38] <TedJoynes> dioioib: If virtual box needs me to pass it a command via a PXE interface and I can do it from SSH that sounds like a potential solution.
[17:39] <dioioib> just looking up commands for you right now
[17:39] <dioioib> I found one for headless but you want VM so that isn't going to work
[17:40] <dioioib> here we are: VBoxManage startvm Ubuntu10.10
[17:40] <dioioib> where Ubuntu10.10 is the name of your VM
[17:40] <TedJoynes> testing..
[17:41] <wad> Hey guys, I'm going crazy. I make sure postfix is stopped, and then check its log file. I edit it, and put in a mark "-------------". Then I exit vi. Then I start postfix. Checking the file shows NO CHANGES. Nothing. Then I stop postfix. Log file still hasn't got any new lines in it. Then I reboot. Check log... lots of stuff! I can't be rebooting this server to check logs files! What am I doing wrong?
[17:41] <RahulAN> can any one tell me why my taskbar is not minimizing application? and also the app is not showing any close or minimize button
[17:42] <RahulAN> I am using lxde
[17:42] <wad> I'm just trying to troubleshoot my postfix config, and the most important tool is broken: logging!
[17:43] <dioioib> wad: are you sudo vi ?
[17:43] <dioioib> then writing it :wq
[17:43] <wad> I'm "sudo -i", so I'm already root.
[17:43]  * wad <----------- vi guy
[17:43] <dioioib> ok
[17:43] <dioioib> i use nano mostly.
[17:43] <dioioib> yeah no reason it shouldn't work.
[17:44] <dioioib> did you add a new line character to the end?
[17:44] <wad> dioioib, yes
[17:44] <dioioib> yeah. I am out of ideas on that one.
[17:44] <wad> I actually did this for all four log files: mail.err, mail.info, mail.warn, mail.log
[17:44] <wad> Okay, thanks!
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[17:45] <dioioib> unless it is looking for a specific line format.
[17:45] <dioioib> like [time stamp] data ...
[17:46] <TedJoynes> ahhhh now I'm connected .. phew. Saved me a drive. Thanks dioioib.
[17:46] <dioioib> yeah no problem man.
[17:50] <mdev> is using the latest version of ubuntu recommended
[17:50] <mdev> as far as security goes or no?
[17:52] <wad> mdev, good question.
[17:52] <wad> Probably more secure to get the latest LTS version.
[17:52] <wad> Currently 12.04
[17:52]  * wad <-------------- not the expert
[17:53] <dioioib> I'm not to sure on that one either.
[17:58] <mdev> thanks
[18:17] <nuclearbob> psusi: ping?
[18:19] <wad> Anyone know if it's possible to create a socket file?
[18:24] <nf7> Hello, when I attempt to boot up the Ubuntu install on a USB (made with Unetbootin on OSX), I get "Non-system disk, Press any key to reboot.". This is on a regular PC, not a Mac btw.
[18:25] <nf7> Which is fine, as Unetbootin for Mac makes a bootable USB for non Apple computers.
[18:30] <XAUXAU> HOW DO I INSTALL UBUNTO TO MY ANDROID?
[18:31] <jhutchins> !touch
[18:36] <sai> hi
[18:36] <miguelangello> i have a problem im using wifi conection en internet is ok but if i connect an ethernet cable to configure a device the wifi conectiion come down i cant use both at the same time
[18:36] <sai> ya
[18:36] <sai> u can't use both
[18:37] <miguelangello> sai, i want to be on internet with wifi but i want to configure another device by ethernet and i cant
[18:37] <miguelangello> if i connect the ethernet internet comes down
[18:38] <phao> Hi. When I start typing something in nautilus, it'll start performing a deep search in the current directory and subs.
[18:39] <phao> is there any way to make it behave like it did before?
[18:39] <phao> Which is a search in the local directory (with file names starting with what you type iirc).
[18:39] <switch> miguelangello: look in your BIOS settings, WIFI is often disabled when an ethernet link is detected
[18:41] <miguelangello> switch,  no it is not disable because it keeps connected to the ap
[18:42] <switch> miguelangello: you said the wifi "comes down" ... can you explain further?
[18:42] <miguelangello> switch,  excuse me i mean the internet service
[18:43] <aalp4> hi
[18:44] <switch> what does the ifconfig command output
[18:45] <miguelangello> switch,  well right now i dont have the ethernet connected because if i do it internet dosnt work
[18:46] <switch> ah okay :)
[18:46] <miguelangello> switch,  like a comment in other os i can use both cards wifi and ethernet wifi to internet and ethernet to configure another devices
[18:46] <switch> I would check your routing tables before and after connecting ethernet ... route -n
[18:46] <miguelangello> i dont have problems
[18:51] <VictorSeb> Hi friends. I have a question: I have my locale set for en_US.UTF-8, but when I create a file, like with gedit, by default it creates a file with us-ascii encoding. If I put a character like an accent, it changes to UTF-8. How can I get it to encode directly to UTF-8?
[18:51] <phao> Hi. When I start typing something in nautilus, it'll start performing a deep search in the current directory and subs.
[18:51] <phao> is there any way to make it behave like it did before?
[18:51] <phao> Which is a search in the local directory (with file names starting with what you type iirc).
[18:51] <phao> VictorSeb, utf-8 is compatible with ascii
[18:52] <phao> I'm not sure what gedit is doing, but ascii files are utf-8 files.
[18:52] <phao> that was one of the design goals of utf-8, actually.
[18:53] <VictorSeb> phao: All right. So there is no problem. Thank you very much.
[18:53] <phao> =)
[18:54] <do0fY> anyone here who can help me setting up a samba share correctly? :(
[18:54] <phao> do0fY, I can't, but this looks like something people at ##linux may also help
[18:55] <phao> There are probably samba related channels too, and networking channel. You can use a bot named alis to look for channels.
[18:55] <phao> for example try /msg alis list *samba*
[18:55] <medikus> Hey, how would I change the shortcuts for moving and resizing windows from alt to super?
[18:55] <phao> medikus, in the system conf. panel
[18:56] <phao> there is a keyboard item. Clicking on it brings a dialog with a tab for shortcuts.
[18:56] <medikus> That doesn't provide the shortcuts for using the mouse
[18:56] <OerHeks>  medikus you'll need to change a lot of keys then
[18:56] <phao> I see. Sorry.
[18:57] <medikus> OerHeks care to explain?
[18:58] <OerHeks> medikus, hold the super key, then you'll see what i am pointing at
[18:58] <medikus> Yeah, kind of figured that would be a problem
[18:58] <phao> Hi. When I start typing something in nautilus, it'll start performing a deep search in the current directory and subs.
[18:58] <phao> is there any way to make it behave like it did before?
[18:58] <phao> Which is a search in the local directory (with file names starting with what you type iirc).
[18:58] <medikus> The thing is, I'm using Blender and these shortcuts prevent me from using some common tools
[18:58] <medikus> I'd be willing to put up with it
[19:00] <phao> maybe try the #ubuntu-unity channel
[19:01] <medikus> Sure, thanks
[19:04] <gayboy12> does anyone remember that chinese sex tape scandal
[19:04] <gayboy12> with over 12 videos
[19:04] <DaemonicApathy> gayboy12: Oick a social channel.
[19:04] <DaemonicApathy> *pick
[19:04] <DJones> gayboy12: No, see /topic this is Ubuntu operating system support
[19:05] <do0fY> still neeed support to set up smb share
[19:05] <do0fY> anyone?
[19:07] <OerHeks> !samba
[19:08] <OerHeks> pretty easy do0fY > https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[19:13] <phao> anyone?
[19:13] <sajjad> hi, how I could reduce load_cycle_Count of my storage device?( it's about 40 per hour)
[19:14] <solexious> Q: I'm trying to enable remote desktop on my workstation, I'm at another computer connected via ssh so can't use the gui, how can I enable it via the commandline?
[19:17] <dioioib> you could create a remote tunnel to VNC or RDP into your system.
[19:18] <solexious> dioioib: yup, but I need to enable the rdp server first :)
[19:18] <dioioib> yep
[19:19] <dioioib> and setup your portforwards.
[19:19] <dioioib> on the router
[19:19] <dioioib> so you want to start RDP on the remote? what type of system is it?
[19:20] <dioioib> windows?
[19:22] <solexious> dioioib: ubuntu
[19:22] <solexious> I'm ssh'd into it
[19:22] <dioioib> ok. and you don't have rdp or vnc setup as a server?
[19:22] <cwc> any grub2/raid5/gpt experts here?
[19:23] <solexious> nope, its pretty much a fresh install
[19:24] <frostschutz> cwc, works best with a raid1 /boot if you ask me
[19:25] <cwc> interesting
[19:25] <cwc> hadn't thought to try that
[19:25] <dioioib> solexious: so you need to sudo apt-get install vnc-server
[19:25] <cwc> frostschutz: when grub2 tries to install to /dev/mdX, I get error: diskfilter writes not supported
[19:25] <frostschutz> sajjad, if it's WD green, you can use hdparm or idle3-tools to make the head parking less agressive
[19:25] <rednecktek> solexious: x11vnc with xinetd is my fav solution
[19:25] <cwc> if that's just a raid5 thing I'll switch it up for /boot
[19:26] <dioioib> then your tunnel will look something like this http://pastebin.com/KDtvR6Wr
[19:26] <frostschutz> cwc, dunno, I install to sda/sdb/sdc (or usb stick for encrypted setups)
[19:26] <dioioib> except you might need an -X in there for running x.
[19:26] <cwc> word. I'll give that or raid1 /boot a try, thx
[19:30] <dioioib> gtg.
[19:30] <velus> hello all does ubuntu have something like usb_modeswitch preinstalled? and also what version of php and httpd does it have? also if it isnt the one i want will it be easy to iunstall it (i.e in centos you cant really install it using the instructions properly
[19:32] <sajjad> frostschutz, what's normal load cycle count per an hour?
[19:33] <Jordan_U> velus: usb_modeswitch is preinstalled, the version of php depends on the version of Ubuntu you use. "apt-cache policy" or http://packages.ubuntu.com will tell you the exact version. Installing software outside of the repositories generally isn't recommended.
[19:34] <velus> yeh but Jordan_U im needing php 5.5 to help with me doing some work for someone
[19:35] <Jordan_U> velus: Why do you specifically need 5.5?
[19:35] <macscam1> hmm wondering where to find the checksum for trusty tahr
[19:35] <hydruid> velus: then uninstall it from the repo, if it's not new enough, and install from source
[19:36] <hydruid> !MD5 | macscam1
[19:36] <hydruid> hmmm
[19:36] <estudiante> mchvdf
[19:36] <estudiante> ng
[19:36] <estudiante> xc
[19:36] <estudiante> n
[19:36] <macscam1> hydruid: the link on the ubuntu for trusty tahr doesnt work
[19:36] <estudiante> dg
[19:36] <estudiante> n
[19:36] <unopaste> estudiante you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:37] <hydruid> macscam1: are you downloading the daily or beta?
[19:38] <macscam1> hydruid: 14_04 LTS amd64
[19:38] <hydruid> macscam1: yes I understand trusty tahr is 14.04 LTS, but it's not officially released yet. so I ask again, are you downloading the beta or daily build?
[19:39] <macscam1> hydruid: i have it downloaded, i dunno which
[19:39] <hydruid> macscam1: where did you download it from? file name?
[19:39] <velus> thank you Jordan_U and hydruid iam using centos and well im having to many little problems with it just little things and well i used to use ubuntu years ago and thinking of going back again
[19:39] <hydruid> velus: Ubuntu is the way to go
[19:39] <velus> lol
[19:40] <DJones> macscam1: If you're having issues with 14.04, please join #ubuntu+1 and ask there, its not supported in this channel until its officially released, people in that channel should be able to help you
[19:40] <velus> yeah i got the llinux user and developer mag today and it has ubuntu 14.04 on it so i might try that for it
[19:40] <frostschutz> sajjad, dunno, really. my oldest wd green 2tb has ~15000 hours runtime and ~6000 load cycles. otoh if load cycles really were a problem we'd probably heard of it by now, people usually notice when lots of disks of a model die early
[19:41] <goose00014000> Does anyone know a way that I could easily (and freely) host some PHP/MySQL in some sort of cloud setup maybe (not limited to). I want to be able to have a place where I can host some PHP/MySQL projects (mostly simple) and be able to access/edit/update the files remotely when I'm out and about. But, I'm trying to look for a solution that doesn't require me to setup my own server to do it.
[19:42] <hydruid> goose00014000: for free, highly  highly highly doubt it
[19:43] <hydruid> goose00014000: and if those "mostly simple" PHP projects aren't secure, if it's wide open to the world, they will get pwnt
[19:43] <sajjad> frostschutz, my Hitachi HTS547575A9E384 has 1409 hoursand 54211 load cycle
[19:43] <frostschutz> goose00014000, free hosts exist but they usually suck big time. webspace is not that expensive
[19:43] <macscam1> hydruid ok, let's try again .... which version of Ubuntu should I download (amd64 EFI). I tried 12.04 and the screen goes black during install
[19:44] <hydruid> macscam1: you should download the latest stable, which is 13.10
[19:44] <macscam1> hydruid ok thanks
[19:44] <Xano> Is there a way to make special characters work like they do on Mac OS? I personally never liked the way they worked under Windows or Linux (Could neve remember the exact key combos)
[19:45] <hydruid> Xano: what DE are you running? Unity?
[19:45] <sajjad> frostschutz, I think it's terrible,  I have to use hdparm to turn off it's power management, don't I?
[19:45] <hydruid> Xano: In my experience I was unable to change the "start" button functionality in Ubuntu, but could in Xubuuntu
[19:47] <Xano> hydruid, Unity, yes
[19:47] <sigint88> so much new about #heartbleed today
[19:47] <sigint88> sheesh
[19:47] <kupo_> man. so many updates and kernel update. LTS about to be released in few days?
[19:48] <Xano> hydruid, Getting used to default ubuntu again, after not having used the UI for a six years or so
[19:48] <kcommander> new ubuntu 14.04 rocks
[19:48] <sigint88> kupo_: ur right 4/17
[19:48] <sigint88> sheesh
[19:48] <sigint88> hmm and its called Trusty eh?
[19:49] <kupo_> was hard to get my newer usb wifi adaptor working. but some crazy codes did the trick. kernel update made me have to redo it though
[19:49] <nf7> sigint88: What do you mean?
[19:49] <kcommander> i installedd thermald and it now my laptop not heating as before
[19:49] <kupo_> other usb adaptor worke dout of box. bought same one only higher speed and didnt work at all
[19:50] <kupo_> getting the same speed though. even though should be doubled. weird. but oh well
[19:50] <kupo_> i hate wireless
[19:50] <kcommander> everything is good in buntu14.04
[19:51] <kupo_> eh. it's been less buggy past week for sure. that synaptic issue got me bad though.
[19:52] <kupo_> i wonder if i tried outndiswrapper. if that would help out with my usb adaptors
[19:53] <hydruid> kupo_: so was your old adapters G and your new one N? you said it should be twice as fast?
[19:54] <hydruid> kupo_: you said it was supposed to be twice as fast and it was one model up...any chance it's using the same driver?
[19:57] <aidalgol> My Wacom Intuos isn't showing up in the output of `xinput list` even though I have the kernel module inserted.  Most of what I'm finding on the web about setting up wacom tablets is outdated, from when the wacom-tools package was still current.  The device shows up in the output of lsusb.  I don't know where to go from here.
[19:58] <kupo_> Do you have to have WINE installed to use ndiswrapper properly?
[19:59] <Pinkamena_D> Hello guys, I need a little assistance with an issue. I have once tried to connect to "attwifi" and now for like 6 months after I resume form suspend It will always try to connect to it even though it is not existant
[19:59] <Artemis3> ndiswrapper is unrelated to wine
[19:59] <Pinkamena_D> It is not even listed in the network manager list of wireless networks either.
[19:59] <kupo_> yeah. suspend ruins my wifi too. i have t replug or whatever. i dont bother with it
[19:59] <Cheekio> Looking for up to date, 13.10 nvidia graphics support
[20:00] <Jordan_U> kupo_: NDISwrapper is never a good solution.
[20:00] <Pinkamena_D> you "dont bother with it"??
[20:00] <oal> For some reason my SD card has started mounting in read only mode. Why does that happen?
[20:00] <Cheekio> I just need a walkthough of how to get the drivers installed. I'm guessing it's just apt-get install nvidia-core or something.
[20:00] <oal> And how can I make it writeable?
[20:00] <Pinkamena_D> I thnk its nvidia-current off the top of my head
[20:00] <Johnny_Linux> yep
[20:01] <Cheekio> can I just back up my xorg.conf, apt-get install nvidia-current, and reboot?
[20:01] <Jordan_U> oal: Is there a write protect switch on it? Please pastebin the output of "dmesg" after trying to mount the card.
[20:01] <Pinkamena_D> I think thats all I had to install, yes
[20:01] <bobby_> Anyone here use Openlayers?
[20:01] <Cheekio> Cool. Wish me luck then.
[20:02] <oal> Jordan_U, http://hastebin.com/qotededelu.css
[20:02] <Pinkamena_D> can anyone help me, I really want to get rid of attwifi and I assume there is some config file somewhere where it is hidden
[20:03] <Pinkamena_D> but I dont know where to start looking.
[20:03] <oal> Jordan_U, actually it's a micro sd in an card reader/adapter. No switch
[20:04] <kupo_> Any specific reasons to use wine if i dont game at all
[20:04] <soee_> how can i move all files/directories to new location and overwrite existing one there ?
[20:06] <ki7rw> soee_: cp -R ?
[20:06] <ki7rw> or use a file manager
[20:06] <Jordan_U> oal: Please pastebin the contents of "cat /proc/mounts".
[20:06] <OerHeks> soee_, with mv , see man mv
[20:06] <xtbman> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 12.04 and am using it for the first time. I've noticed that both Chrome and Firefox sit for a few seconds on "waiting to connect <url", and then they respond and load the page. Do you have any idea why they would be slow to respond?
[20:06] <xtbman> waiting to connect to <url>, I meant
[20:06] <xtbman> finally, after about 5-10 seconds, it says Establishing Connection and takes me to the page.
[20:07] <bekks> xtbman: DNS resolution must be done, server must respond to HTTP GET, before data can be displayed.
[20:07] <hydruid> soee_: rsynz -zav /source/path /destination/path
[20:07] <Jordan_U> xtbman: Try changing your dns server to 8.8.8.8 .
[20:07] <OerHeks> soee_, see the -u -update option
[20:08] <hydruid> xtbman: what DNS server are you using?
[20:08] <xtbman> linux.com just took about 30 seconds, and then I clicked the x button to stop loading, and the page immediately appeared.
[20:12] <akio> testing
[20:13] <akio> unregged?
[20:13] <akio> Do I have to register with the Ubuntu lords to be "regged"?
[20:13] <bekks> akio: No. You have to register your nickname on Freenode.
[20:13] <OerHeks> akio, not in this support channel
[20:13] <xtbman> sorry my wireless just died. I'm now using my windows computer. Ubuntu is not maintaining my wifi connection very well.
[20:13] <akio> im registered on freenode currently
[20:13] <xtbman> I'm not sure what DNS server I'm using. How can I check?
[20:14] <akio> still unregged
[20:14] <Cheekio> Black screen of death.
[20:14] <Jordan_U> akio: What do you mean by "unregged"?
[20:14] <Pici> akio: You're in #ubuntu currently.
[20:14] <akio> I se it in my status bar.
[20:14] <Cheekio> Installing nvidia-current and rebooting led to a normal login screen, but upon login I just got a black screen instead of my desktop
[20:15] <Pici> akio: its an argument to one of the modes we have set on the channel.
[20:15] <Baako> HI guys i protected a folder and now i cant move files into that folder please help
[20:15] <Jordan_U> akio: What you're seeing is the mode of the channel, which contains the string #ubuntu-unreffed. Look at the title though, and you'll see "#ubuntu".
[20:15] <x0011BF> Oi oi. Question - I programmatically modified some of the VPN configuration files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[20:15] <bekks> Baako: Define "I protected a folder" please.
[20:15] <Baako> bekks i think i used a "chmod 600"
[20:16] <x0011BF> I did so by caching the entire contents to a string in python, deleting the file, then creating a new one.
[20:16] <akio> So I installed the new LTS and I'm having issues updating it from a local repo I built for other releases.
[20:16] <akio> I used debmirror to make the repo and its been working fine.
[20:16] <nf7> xtbman: Perhaps your wireless card isn't supported very well?
[20:16] <x0011BF> I changed the permissions to the same permissions as ones that work (600), but they still didn't re-appear.
[20:16] <akio> The trusty machine will not load the Package indexes.
[20:16] <x0011BF> Any idea how to fix it?
[20:16] <akio> They don't exist unpacked for any release.
[20:17] <xtbman> ok I used nm-tool | tail -n 8, and it lists two DNS lines. One says 75.75.75.75, the other says 75.75.75.76
[20:17] <akio> Well now that I did a find . -name Packages I find them
[20:17] <Jordan_U> x0011BF: I'm still not sure what problem you're actually having. What commands are you running to test this, what is their output, and what do you want their output to be instead? Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for any output longer than one line.
[20:18] <xtbman> Not sure what that means regarding my slow DNS resolution
[20:18] <hydruid> x0011BF: what about who owns those files/
[20:18] <x0011BF> hydruid: root owns all of them.
[20:18] <xtbman> should I still change the DNS to 8.8.8.8?
[20:18] <Baako> bekks please help
[20:18] <x0011BF> Jordan_U: Not sure what you mean. They disappeared from the network manager. I'm not running any commands.
[20:18] <hydruid> x0011BF: did root own them before?
[20:19] <hydruid> xtbman: yes
[20:19] <x0011BF> hydruid: Yes. Root owns the ones that are working as well.
[20:19] <hydruid> x0011BF: so the permissions match exactly as before?
[20:19] <akio> bad mirror, nevermind
[20:19] <x0011BF> From what I can tell. Sec.
[20:19] <xtbman> ok, just gotta figure out how to change DNS
[20:19] <hydruid> x0011BF: what is the issue?
[20:20] <Jordan_U> x0011BF: What dissapeared from network manager?
[20:21] <x0011BF> So I had some OpenVPN VPN connections in the network manager.
[20:21] <hydruid> x0011BF: you will have to recreate those
[20:21] <x0011BF> I have a lot of them that all access the internet through the same proxy.
[20:22] <hydruid> x0011BF: just copying the vpn config files means nothing
[20:22] <cwc> frostschutz: even with raid1 /boot, grub2 still doesn't want to install. 'diskfilter writes not supported'. Does it hate me because I'm using 4x4TB disks?
[20:22] <x0011BF> What?
[20:22] <x0011BF> I'm trying to modify them.
[20:23] <x0011BF> They all access the internet through the same HTTP proxy, and I want to be able to change the password in all of them with a script.
[20:23] <hydruid> x0011BF: Okay, what is the issue you're running into?
[20:23] <x0011BF> It's clearly stored in these VPN config files, but when I delete-and-recreate them programmatically, even with the same permissions, they disappear.
[20:23] <x0011BF> From the network manager.
[20:24] <xtbman> Ok, I set the DNS to 8.8.8.8. wifi does not connect now.
[20:24] <Jordan_U> cwc: grub's boot sector needs to be installed to where your BIOS will load it from. Your BIOS doesn't understand mdraid, so it can't load from mdX. Instead, you need to install grub's boot sector to the MBR of the drives.
[20:24] <hydruid> x0011BF: so you modify the VPN config thru a script or by hand, they disapear
[20:24] <x0011BF> Haven't tried by hand.
[20:24] <hydruid> x0011BF: is the script deleting the files? why not just update what is there with SED?
[20:24] <xtbman> I went into edit connections, went to the IPv4 tab, chose Automatic (DHCP) address only, then put 8.8.8.8 into the DNS servers box.
[20:24] <cwc> Jordan_U: I was successful at setting up ubuntu server with 2x2TB RAID1
[20:25] <cwc> the installer didn't use gpt for the partition table, so my suspicions lie there
[20:25] <Jordan_U> cwc: No, I just told you that your problem was that you were trying to install grub's boot sector to the wrong place.
[20:25] <hydruid> x0011BF: sed -i 's/4.4.4.4/5.5.5.5/g' VPN-text-file
[20:26] <x0011BF> Yeah, I kinda already wrote this other script.
[20:26] <x0011BF> It does other things.
[20:26] <hydruid> x0011BF: ohh okay sounds like you have it handl3ed
[20:26] <hydruid> *handled
[20:26] <x0011BF> I may be able to modify it in-place, but I don't see why delete-and-recreate is a problem.
[20:26] <cwc> I could be mistaken, but I thought my previous install was to md0 on the other machine
[20:26] <Beldar> x0011BF, Use the others nick when you address them. ;)
[20:27] <Xano> Is there a shortcut to switch between applications
[20:27] <Xano> ?
[20:27] <xtbman> ok now it connected. My primary DNS is now 8.8.8.8. www.yahoo.com waited on "Resolving Host" for 11 seconds and then immediately loaded the page. This seems even longer than before.
[20:27] <x0011BF> Beldar: OK
[20:27] <k1l_> Xano: alt+tab
[20:27] <x0011BF> hydruid: Apparently not.
[20:27] <Xano> k1l_, No, thatś to switch between windows
[20:28] <x0011BF> hydruid: Editing the config files by hand works fine. Not sure why it matters if it gets momentarily removed.
[20:28] <k1l_> xano, which ubuntu, which desktop?
[20:28] <Xano> k1l_, 12.10, Unity
[20:28] <hydruid> x0011BF: then perhaps you should try my suggestion, you need to see if deleting the config file is the root of the issue, or if just modifying the config files causes the same issue
[20:28] <Xano> 13
[20:28] <Xano> k1l_, err, 13.10
[20:28] <k1l_> Xano: press super and hold it and read the shortcuts
[20:28] <x0011BF> hydruid: Yes, I just modified one by hand and it worked fine.
[20:29] <Xano> k1l_, Dumb questoion: what is super?
[20:29] <x0011BF> hydruid: But that doesn't distinguish between some sort of permissions problem and a problem where if it ever gets deleted it is removed forever.
[20:29] <hydruid> x0011BF: My guess is that either Network manager realizes that they are gone or there is some kind of "trust relationship" to those files or a symbolic link, if you will, to something else that keeps track of when they are deleted
[20:29] <Xano> Ugh, I obviously cannot type on this keyboard yet :P
[20:29] <k1l_> Xano: alt+tab is a app switcher in first level and a window switcher in second level
[20:29] <Jordan_U> Xano: It's the key that's wearing a cape :)
[20:29] <k1l_> Xano: the windows button
[20:29] <x0011BF> I suppose it's possible. Maybe I'll try just leaving the files in place and gutting them.
[20:29] <xtbman> Connecting to cnn.com, it sat on Resolving Host for 15 seconds, then it sat on "waiting for cdn.optimizely.com for 45 seconds.
[20:29] <xtbman> Anyone have a suggestion? I guess 8.8.8.8 isn't working.
[20:29] <hydruid> x0011BF: why?
[20:29] <x0011BF> hydruid: Because of the way the script works.
[20:30] <xtbman> Pressing the x button causes the page to load immediately.
[20:30] <Xano> k1l_, Ah, I wasn familiar with the Linux terminology for that button yet. Thanks
[20:30] <Xano> k1l_, useful shortcut!
[20:30] <hydruid> x0011BF: why use "the script" you keep mentioning? you're making it too hard
[20:30] <frostschutz> cwc, pastebin 'parted unit s print free /dev/sdx' for one of the disks?
[20:30] <hydruid> x0011BF: sed -i 's/4.4.4.4/5.5.5.5/g' VPN-config-*.conf
[20:30] <x0011BF> hydruid: 1. it's not a .conf file.
[20:30] <x0011BF> hydruid: 2. the script does other things. If I wanted to modify them manually, I could have.
[20:30] <hydruid> x0011BF: sed -i 's/4.4.4.4/5.5.5.5/g' VPN-config-*.txt
[20:30] <hydruid> x0011BF: okay cool sounds like you have it figured out
[20:31] <Xano> k1l_, Weird that even that help window says alt+tab switches between apps, while it really does not and AFAIK also never has
[20:31] <k1l_> Xano: it does
[20:31] <frostschutz> cwc, sorry, /dev/sdx comes first
[20:31] <x0011BF> hydruid: Not really. I can make something that works, but I don't understand why, which is kind of a problem.
[20:31] <Xano> k1l_, No, unless you count different instances of the same app as different apps...
[20:32] <Xano> k1l_, Example: alt+tab switches between Firefox windows as well, while the windows all belong to the same application
[20:32] <k1l_> Xano: please make a screenshot to show your issue. it is a app switcher and works like that in here. be aware of the 2 levels
[20:32] <Xano> k1l_, alt+accent grave *only* switches between app windows, but there is no between-app equivalent, it seems. Anyway, thanks for pointing out the super key!
[20:33] <hydruid> x0011BF: the problem is your script and trying to force it do so something a way that breaks it, you want to know why it breaks? Look into network manager. You're making it too complicated. who cares why you can't delete those config files, just find a way to modify them with your script that is simple and effecient then move on
[20:33] <xtbman> Alright, I guess I'll remove the 8.8.8.8 and go back to waiting 5 seconds for DNS response instead of 10.
[20:34] <Xano> k1l_, It switches between any open window, regardless of what app it belongs to. This means that if you have ten browser windows open, it will also happily switch between those. Ergo, it does not only switch between apps, but between windows as well. This is useful, but not what I was looking for :)
[20:34] <hydruid> xtbman: so 8.8.8.8 is taking 8 seconds to response to dns queries?
[20:34] <hydruid> */response/respond/g
[20:34] <x0011BF> hydruid: Not all of us are interested in kludging things together until they "just work". I'd be interested in knowing why it works the way it does so that I can do other things.
[20:34] <xtbman> hydruid sometimes longer
[20:34] <x0011BF> It's not really that difficult of a concept to understand.
[20:34] <k1l_> Xano: it does group all windows from one app so it switches apps in first level
[20:34] <hydruid> x0011BF: Trust me I understand, but obviously you don't ;)
[20:35] <xtbman> I just sat for about 45 seconds waiting for cnn.com to load. At that point, I decided to just click the red x button to stop loading, and then entire page loaded immediately.
[20:35] <hydruid> xtbman: what type of internet connection?
[20:35] <xtbman> hydruid it's wifi.
[20:35] <kevin> hey guys... so, i recently did a apt-get upgrade, and now my mouse cursor doesn't show up in gnome.... any ideas why?
[20:35] <kevin> it shows up on the lightdm login screen though
[20:35] <xtbman> hydruid default was Automatic (DHCP)
[20:36] <hydruid> xtbman: okay wifi, who's wifi is it? What type of internet feeds that wifi?
[20:36] <k1l_> Xano: if a app got more than one window you see dots below the icon and they will spread after you select it for some time (to let you choose the one window= second level)
[20:37] <xtbman> hydruid it's a Comcast xfinity internet service. I've been using it for about a year now, and I've never had this problem using any other device. I installed Ubuntu today and started having this issue.
[20:37] <Guest9976> hola
[20:37] <Guest9976> putos
[20:37] <hydruid> xtbman: ping your default gateway, something like ping 192.168.0.1 and then compare that to ping 8.8.8.8
[20:37] <xtbman> ok one moment
[20:38] <nf7> Trusty users: About how long is your apt-get update taking?
[20:38] <Guest9976> bitchs
[20:38] <Guest9976> hello
[20:38] <k1l_> nf7: #ubuntu+1 for 14.04
[20:38] <kevin> nm, got it now.
[20:38]  * kevin waves
[20:39] <nf7> k1l_: Thanks
[20:41] <xtbman> hydruid ping 8.8.8.8 returns replies at around 30ms. I'm currently researching to find my default gateway. 192.168.0.1 is not it.
[20:42] <Darkness_of_Time> hello everybody! I intend to purchase a new desktop computer. does anybody know if ubuntu performs better on Intel processors or the AMD ones?
[20:42] <xtbman> hydruid ok, my default gateway is 10.0.0.1, and it returns responses at around 1.5 to 2 ms
[20:42] <xtbman> hydruid so 8.8.8.8 is ~30 ms, default gateway is ~2ms
[20:42] <hydruid> xtbman: try netstat -rn
[20:43] <Baako> is they a way you can you your private key to find what your public key is?
[20:43] <hydruid> Darkness_of_Time: it awesomely  performs well on both ;)
[20:43] <xtbman> hydruid netstat shows the gateway.
[20:43] <xtbman> it's 10.0.0.1
[20:44] <hydruid> xtbman: weird......
[20:44] <hydruid> xtbman: what browser?
[20:45] <xtbman> chrome and firefox
[20:45] <hydruid> xtbman: so using 8.8.8.8 for dns actually makes your browsing slower?
[20:45] <xtbman> yeah
[20:45] <Darkness_of_Time> hydruid: ok thanks. mostl likely I'm going to buy and AMD one. it is much cheaper. and on more question. do you know if there is ANY issue regarding the type of the motherboard and the vga card? is there anything that I should avoid, or anything that performs much better on linux?
[20:45] <hydruid> xtbman: how does does this command take to run: nslookup google.com 8.8.8.8
[20:45] <bekks> xtbman: And which DNS server is used by the default gateway?
[20:45] <Bray90820_> So for the life of me i can't get ubuntu to properly boot
[20:46] <bekks> Bray90820_: What exactly happens?
[20:46] <Bray90820_> The screen goes black after grub but I know it is booting because I can hear the startup sound
[20:46] <hydruid> Darkness_of_Time: that is super machine specific, linux doesn't always have the best drivers for video cards, but for the most part, Ubuntu will run on almost anything
[20:46] <bekks> !nomodeset | Bray90820_
[20:46] <Darkness_of_Time> hydruid: ok thanks again!
[20:46] <hydruid> Darkness_of_Time: have fun with your new pc
[20:47] <xtbman> hydruid I have to install nslookup. bekks, the default DNS is 75.75.75.75
[20:47] <hydruid> xtbman: what? you don't have nslookup installed/
[20:47] <Darkness_of_Time> hydruid: :)
[20:47] <hydruid> lol
[20:47] <xtbman> hydruid I don't know, I just typed nslookup and it said nslookup not found
[20:47] <wearable_bugger> dns hijaking?
[20:47] <Linuxator> is there a Wheezy version of Ubuntu?
[20:47] <Bray90820_> bekks: i don't think that's the case because it would sorta work but it would take forever to wake from sleep
[20:48] <hydruid> Linuxator: there was but it died from asthasma
[20:48] <Bray90820_> But as of yesterday it won't even wake from sleep
[20:48] <k1l_> Linuxator: that is a debian release. not a ubuntu one
[20:48] <bekks> Bray90820_: Did you try nomodeset?
[20:48] <hydruid> Linuxator: I think it's similar to ubuntu 12.04
[20:48] <Linuxator> hydruid: ut's not funny
[20:49] <Guest87632> alicia
[20:49] <Bray90820_> bekks: I did not but like i said it doesn't seem very likely
[20:49] <bekks> Bray90820_: So just try it then. :)
[20:49] <Bray90820_> But i will try them
[20:50] <hydruid> xtbman: also try changing your default gateway's DNS to 8.8.8.8 and then don't specify a DNS server for your pc
[20:50] <Linuxator> how ti customize Debuan to look like ubuntu?
[20:51] <k1l_> Linuxator: please ask debian questions in #debian
[20:51] <hydruid> Linuxator: just install Ubuntu, you know you want to
[20:51] <hydruid> Linuxator: there are other distros that you can use that use the same UI for both
[20:52] <Bray90820_> bekks: Since I cant boot how would I set them
[20:54] <nf7> I'm trying to run a configure file. The end of the output is a bunch of No package "package name" found. Is there an easy way to download all of these at once or do I need to do each one manually?
[20:54] <hydruid> Bray90820_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[20:55] <TechSmurf> what is everyone using for upstream corp email filtering?
[20:55] <Oria> hi, I made a xinitrc file on ubuntu 14.04. It doesn't start...
[20:55] <hydruid> nf7: configure doesn't have "install these packages" options, install manually
[20:55] <hydruid> Oria: try out #ubuntu+1
[20:55] <hydruid> ubuntu+1|oria
[20:55] <Oria> hydruid: ok
[20:55] <Oria> join #ubuntu+1
[20:55] <hydruid> yes
[20:56] <Oria> thx hydruid
[20:57] <nf7> hydruid: That sucks. Thanks though.
[20:58] <xtbman> hydruid, nslookup google.com 8.8.8.8 returns "connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[20:58] <hydruid> nf7: that would take the fun out of installing from source ;)
[20:58] <nf7> hydruid: Hahah. Fun.
[20:58] <hydruid> xtbman: there is your issue, sounds like network issues instead of dns
[20:59] <xtbman> This time it listed the Server and Address, and then said server can't find nslookup: NXDOMAIN
[20:59] <Bray90820_> hydruid: that info seems to be outdated
[20:59] <xtbman> I wasn't having this much trouble earlier today. It was still slow, but it seems to be getting even slower. And I'm currently typing on another computer that is having zero network issues.
[21:00] <Guest50278> i tried a fresh install of ubuntu and all it does after install is boot to a grey screen
[21:01] <Baako> how you close chat channel in irssi?
[21:02] <k1l_> Baako: /wc
[21:02] <nf7> Baako: /leave
[21:02] <Baako> thanks
[21:03] <Baako> nf7 and kil_ thanks
[21:03] <Baako> also where r program folders located?
[21:03] <Jordan_U> cwc: Are you still having issues installing grub?
[21:05] <Jordan_U> Baako: "echo $PATH", the directories are listed separated by ':'s.
[21:06] <Baako> JOrdan_U i want to see where sublime is located
[21:06] <Guest50278> i tried a fresh install of ubuntu and all it does after install is boot to a grey screen
[21:06] <xtbman> I restarted my computer, and now the internet is working fine.
[21:06] <xtbman> No idea why restarting would improve the DNS resolution.
[21:07] <xtbman> now it's loading pages immediately.
[21:07] <Jordan_U> Baako: Assuming that the command is literally "sublime", you would run "which sublime". Why do you want to know this though?
[21:08] <Jordan_U> xtbman: Do you have any machines on the same network that are using a static ip rather than DHCP?
[21:08] <Baako> Jordan_U i need to give the path to filezilla to open files using sublime
[21:08] <xtbman> Jordan_U no, not unless these xfinity tv cable boxes have static IPs
[21:09] <Bray90820_> bekks: The information seems to be telling me to find the line that starts with "linux /boot" but that's not there in mine
[21:10] <edman007> So I'm trying to fix a system that has some foobared packages... no idea what happened, only that /boot was full when I found it and I think that screwed things up, anyways: apt-get install -f gets me this: http://pastebin.com/qCVyM6Up I also tried removing linux-server, still nothing... any ideas on how to fix this?
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Bray90820_: What steps are you performing at boot, and what do you see instead of a line starting with "linux"?
[21:13] <Bray90820_> when grub loafs i hit E  and the closest thing to "linux /boot" is "linux /vmlinuz"
[21:13] <Bray90820_> Jordan_U:
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Bray90820_: That's the correct line. It's different from that guide because you have a separate /boot/ partition.
[21:14] <Bray90820_> yes
[21:14] <Bray90820_> ok Thanks
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Bray90820_: You're welcome.
[21:16] <Bray90820_> Jordan_U: should i just enter "nomodeset" at the end of the line
[21:16] <Jordan_U> Bray90820_: Yes.
[21:16] <Bray90820_> Ok
[21:16] <Bray90820_> Thanks
[21:16] <Jordan_U> Bray90820_: You're welcome.
[21:17] <freddy57> what directories will i find the source for the program that Screen shots with the printScreen button. also where it stores the shots
[21:17] <freddy57> ?
[21:17] <bekks> Bray90820_: So which line do you find there...?
[21:17] <bekks> ah, you already solved it.
[21:17] <freddy57> pm
[21:18] <Bray90820_> bekks: well i correctly did nomodeset but ubuntu is still black
[21:18] <bekks> Bray90820_: So which graphics chipset, and which driver do you use?
[21:19] <cwc> Jordan_U frostschutz: I figured it out
[21:19] <cwc> the installer was putting the biosgrub partition on the raid device
[21:20] <cwc> instead of directly on sda/b/etc
[21:20] <Baako> where r program files located when you install it using something like? "sudo apt-get install sublime-text-installer"
[21:20] <Jordan_U> Baako: Did you try running "which sublime" like I suggested?
[21:20] <Baako> Jordan have you use filezilla before?
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Baako: No.
[21:21] <Baako> you can run command on filezilla so you need to specif a path to the text editor you want filezilla to you to open a php or any other languange file
[21:22] <Baako> you can't*
[21:22] <Jordan_U> Baako: Did you try running "which sublime" like I suggested?
[21:22] <Bray90820_> bekks: well i used the default driver that is installed with ubuntu and the integrated graphics processor on my motherboard
[21:22] <Baako> you can't run command on filezilla so you need to specif a path to the text editor you want filezilla to you to open a php or any other languange file
[21:22] <nf7> Baako: Run "which sublime" in the Terminal, it has nothing to do with FileZilla
[21:22] <bekks> Bray90820_: So which graphics chipset, and which driver do you use?
[21:23] <nf7> Baako: "which sublime" will literally tell you the file path of sublime (or whatever program).
[21:23] <Baako> nf7 if it means i will need to download all the files in my server to read it in sublime which is stupid because i can just tell filezilla to open the file using sublime which means i dont have to download the file
[21:23] <Guest58195> how do I get my sound to work? it shows up as a soundblaster but i get no sound.
[21:24] <Guest58195> same configuration works in wxp
[21:24] <Baako> anyone here using filezilla?
[21:24] <Guest58195>   /nick Tw
[21:24] <nf7> Baako: I'm sorry I don't know what you're talking about or what your question is.
[21:24] <theadmin> Baako: You still have to download the file. For FileZilla to open a file, it needs to download it to a temporary location, open it, then upload the edited version back.
[21:24] <Baako> theadmin no you dont
[21:24] <nf7> Baako: Yes you do.
[21:24] <Baako> nf7 no you dont
[21:25] <Jordan_U> Baako: Please open a terminal, run "which sublime", and tell us the output.
[21:25] <nf7> Baako: How do you think you use a web page in a browser? Your computer downloads it.
[21:25] <nf7> Baako: If you look at something on your computer screen, your computer has downloaded it. That's the physics of it.
[21:25] <Baako> nf7 in windows tell filezilla the path to the text editor you like and filezilla will use that text editor everytime you want to read a file in your server
[21:26] <TWarrior> no hello?
[21:26] <nf7> Baako: So? Just do that in Ubuntu? I don't see the problem. Jordan is telling you how.
[21:26] <Baako> nf7 will i need to tell it the text editor to use.
[21:26] <nf7> Baako: Omg.
[21:26] <BigClay93> Hey there
[21:26] <Baako> nf7 the default  is "gedit" but i want to use a custom program which is sublime
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Baako: If you don't either A: Follow the advice given and run "which sublime" in a terminal and tell us the output or B: Explain why you refuse to do so,   I will have to remove you from the channel to avoid wasting helpers' time.
[21:27] <nf7> Baako: I don't know how many times Jordan_U can explain it to you.
[21:27] <TWarrior> naaaah
[21:27] <Baako> dont matter will ask the php guys
[21:27] <nf7> Good.
[21:27] <BigClay93> I see that you are all busy, but would someone be able to help me out with something real quick?
[21:28] <BigClay93> It is probably considered relatively simple, but I just can't get it
[21:28] <Jordan_U> BigClay93: Just ask :) If anyone is available to help and can, they will respond.
[21:28] <nf7> BigClay93: Sure, you don't really need to ask, just go ahead with the question
[21:28] <BigClay93> Okay then :)
[21:28] <BigClay93> Oh haha
[21:28] <Baako> what i am asking is very simple. when you install a program where is it stored? what is the path to the program folders
[21:29] <BigClay93> Well, is it possible for me to use my external hard drive as a live usb instead of a flash drive?
[21:29] <Jordan_U> Baako: This is your last warning. If your next message is not either A or B as stated above, I will remove you from the channel.
[21:29] <theadmin> Baako: There's none, it can be anywhere in $PATH.
[21:29] <Bray90820_> bekks: well i used the default driver that is installed with ubuntu and the integrated graphics processor on my motherboard
[21:29] <Baako> Jordan_U why? because i ask for the path to the program files
[21:29] <BigClay93> I tried to use Universal USB or whatever, but I just still can't get it right.
[21:29] <theadmin> Baako: The which command will tell you where exactly. Linux doesn't have "Program Files".
[21:29] <bekks> Bray90820_: NAME the driver and NAME the exact chipset.
[21:30] <Baako> theadmin alright thanks
[21:30] <bekks> Bray90820_: "the default" and "builtin" may resolve to more than a hundred combinations.
[21:30] <Jordan_U> Baako: Because you are refusing to follow the advice given to you. We can't help you if you don't follow our advice.
[21:30] <Baako> theadmin much better explaination
[21:30] <TWarrior> nah
[21:30] <Baako> Jordan_U i ask a questions all you had to say was what theadmin just told me
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Bray90820_: Terminal command -> sudo lshw -C display <- for some relevant info.
[21:31] <Baako> Jordan_U i know in terminal if you type in the name of the program it will open it for you
[21:31] <Bray90820_> Bashing-om: I can't boot correctly so i can't open a terminal
[21:32] <Jordan_U> Baako: *Please*, just run "which sublime" and you will see that it outputs the answer to your question. That is why we were asking you to run it.
[21:32] <bekks> Bray90820_: Well. So which graphics chipset do you have then? You bought it, you should know it.
[21:32] <Bashing-om> Bray90820_: Umph ... liveDVD on hand for troubleshhoting ?
[21:33] <Bray90820_> bekks the one that is integrated with the Z87-A Motherboard
[21:33] <bekks> Bray90820_: Then find it out and name it.
[21:33] <TWarrior> naaaaaaah
[21:35] <Xeph> BigClay93: it should be fine to use an external hdd instead of a flash drive in general, but keep in mind that your data as well as the partition table will be overwritten
[21:35] <Bray90820_> bekks: the website doesn't say
[21:36] <bekks> Bray90820_: It clearly does. The mainboard has no own chipset but uses the CPU integrated chipset.
[21:36] <Bray90820_> bekks: what do you mean
[21:36] <Baako> Jordan_U its weird it doesnt tell me where it is. but if i do a search for it i can see it
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Baako: What is the output of "which sublime", when run normally from a terminal?
[21:37] <Baako> Jordan_U nothing
[21:37] <Jordan_U> Baako: Thank you. Then the command to start sublime must be something slightly different.
[21:37] <bekks> Bray90820_: that your CPU (socket LGA1155) has an integrated graphics chipset which is then used by the mainboard to display something using the display port (not to mix up with DisplayPort) on your mainboard.
[21:37] <bekks> Bray90820_: So the interesting fact is - which excat make and model is your CPU?
[21:37] <Bray90820_> Yes
[21:38] <nf7> Jordan_U: It might be sublime-text-2 or something
[21:39] <Bray90820_> bekks: the box for the processor says intel hd graphics 4600
[21:39] <Bray90820_> The processor is i5-4570
[21:40] <TJ-> Bray90820_: In order to get some sort of control, I'd recommend you reboot, goto the GRUB boot menu (holding Shift), edit the Ubuntu entry by locating the line "linux ..." and altering it to remove "quiet splash" and add "debug text" - that *should* get you a text terminal log-in without starting the GUI, which then gives you a change to run diagnostics and alter settings.
[21:40] <bekks> Bray90820_: i5-4570/R/RT/T/TE/S?
[21:40] <Baako> Jordan_U indeed its odd
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Baako: Please start sublime howver you normally start it then run "ps aux | grep sublime | grep -v grep" and pastebin the output. That should tell us what sublime is actually called.
[21:42] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Just so you know: "pgrep -l sublime", much easier to search for processes this way
[21:42] <axizor> Quick network question... I can't find any media servers on my PS3 connected to a LAN switch I have running on an old router with DDWRT, but when it's plugged directly into the main router, it sees them fine.
[21:42] <Jordan_U> theadmin: Thanks.
[21:43] <axizor> Any ideas?
[21:43] <SASDOE> hey all, how come I can't login via ssh? I have keys and have successfully logged in today (and still have and active connection), but cannot open any more conenction from any other host. Load was high and ram low but not at this time and still can't log in
[21:44] <Jeruvy> axisys so to clarify you have a switch with a media server and a ps3 connected, which (the switch) is connected to the router.?
[21:44] <Bray90820_> bekks: I think it's s the box says S-spec
[21:44] <TJ-> SASDOE: check the log files
[21:44] <Baako> Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/EK0x7Bhy
[21:44] <Jordan_U> SASDOE: What error do you get when trying to start a new connection? Please pastebin the output of "service ssh status".
[21:45] <axizor> Jeruvy the switch is connected to the router yes
[21:45] <axizor> But the media server is on the router too, not the switch
[21:45] <theadmin> Baako: /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text is where it's located.
[21:45] <SASDOE>  Failed password for invalid user maxime from 192.168.1.10 port 41185 ssh2
[21:45] <Bray90820_> bekks: the model number is SR14E
[21:45] <SASDOE> in log/auth
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Baako: Great. So the path is /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text, which should also be returned by "which sublime_text".
[21:45] <SASDOE> and status said running
[21:45] <axizor> However the switch is properly setup and the PS3 is on the same dhcp server as the media server
[21:46] <theadmin> Jordan_U: (given that /opt/sublime_text is in $PATH, which it has no reason to be imo)
[21:46] <Jeruvy> axizor can you verify the dhcp exchanges on the router?
[21:46] <axizor> Let me just double check
[21:46] <Jordan_U> theadmin: I would expect the package to add it as part of postinst.
[21:46] <SASDOE> Jordan_U: and error message is default permission denied
[21:46] <bekks> Bray90820_: Either it is a i4570 because of the SR14E or it is a i5-4570S as you stated.
[21:46] <SASDOE> ssh -v shows usual failures as well
[21:46] <Jordan_U> SASDOE: Not "connection refused"?
[21:46] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Hm, normally /opt stuff doesn't get added to $PATH, instead symlinks in /usr/bin are made
[21:47] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Then again, I don't use that many packages which actually install to /opt
[21:47] <SASDOE> Jordan_U: no "Permission denied (publickey,password)."
[21:47] <axizor> Yes jeruvy all good
[21:47] <Baako> Jordan_U thanks but the command to open it still doesnt open it
[21:47] <Jeruvy> axizor assuming you have a a dumb switch it should just work, also assuming there isn't anything on the switch that might conflct.  If the switch is managed then you'd need to check the settings on the switch.
[21:48] <TJ-> SASDOE: So, is user "maxime" permitted to connect from the host 192.168.1.10 ?
[21:48] <Jordan_U> theadmin: However it's done, I would expect the package to make the command available in $PATH. If which returned /usr/bin/sublime_text that would work as a path as well.
[21:48] <Bray90820_> bekks: Or it could also be an R Because it also says Intel (R) Core(TM) i5-4570
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Baako: Does "sublime_text /path/to/file.txt" open said text file? That's probably the type of command filezilla will try to use.
[21:48] <axizor> Jeruvy, what settings? And no, just one other normal windows workstation on one of the other switch ports
[21:49] <Baako> Jordan_U yes
[21:49] <SASDOE> Ok I found it.. I did a bad chsh command and screwed connections therefore. Not easy to spot. I guess the mistake was stupid. Thanks for your help guys.
[21:49] <Jeruvy> axizor does the ps3 get an ip?
[21:50] <axizor> Yes jeruvy it has no problem with that
[21:50] <Micky> Hi there!
[21:50] <Bray90820_> bekks: lets assume i5-4500 because that's what it says on the front
[21:51] <Jeruvy> axizor ok thats all the simple stuff, now we need specific details.  Oh one more...are you using the same cable for both tests?
[21:51] <TJ-> Baako: Try "which subl; which sublime-text"
[21:52] <axizor> Jeruvy: no, but I have strong faith in this cable :)
[21:53] <Jeruvy> axizor :)
[21:53] <TJ-> axizor: 1) Is it a managed or unmanaged switch? 2) Are you using VLAN tagging?
[21:54] <axizor> It's a basic dumb switch I followed using these instructions: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Switch
[21:54] <kenneth__> How do I get sound to work?
[21:54] <axizor> Tbh I don't know too much about networking
[21:54] <Micky> is it possible to turn off to see who logs in and out?
[21:55] <Beldar> Micky, look in the preferences of your irc app
[21:55] <Bray90820_> bekks: where should I go from here
[21:55] <Jeruvy> axizor you can try and default the switch.  Do you know what kind it is?
[21:56] <Micky> cant find the respective command there
[21:56] <TJ-> axisys:  1) Other than the media devices can the PS3 connect to other local or Internet resources? 2) Does DDWRT list the MAC address and IP of the PS3 in its Admin pages on the web interface?
[21:56] <axizor> Jeruvy: what kind of switch? Hw wise?
[21:57] <axizor> TJ- 1.yes
[21:57] <axizor> I'll check on 2.
[21:57] <Beldar> Micky, What app are you using, and preface answers to others with their nick.
[21:57] <Micky> freenode
[21:57] <Micky> ok
[21:57] <Jeruvy> axizor the switch you have a ps3 and workstation plugged into.
[21:57] <TJ-> axisys: Great! (1) means there's no network connectivity issues, but the issue is more of a 'service discovery' issue.
[21:57] <sigint88> join #ardupilot
[21:57] <sigint88> oops
[21:57] <TJ-> axizor:  Great! (1) means there's no network connectivity issues, but the issue is more of a 'service discovery' issue.
[21:58] <Beldar> Micky, freenode is the network, how are you getting their? With an app off the net?
[21:58] <Micky> Beldar, the net
[21:58] <TJ-> axizor: So now I'd ask, are the media services connected via wire or wireless to the DDWRT ?
[21:58] <axizor> Not connected at all to ddwrt
[21:58] <axizor> Connected to main router
[21:59] <Jeruvy> what is ddwrt running on?
[21:59] <axizor> Wired of course :)
[21:59] <axizor> V24
[21:59] <axizor> Some pre-final version
[21:59] <axizor> It was the latest my router supported
[21:59] <Jeruvy> what hardware?
[21:59] <axizor> Netgear wrn2000v3
[21:59] <TJ-> axizor: Sorry, I misunderstood your mention of DDWRT ... so you've got the following topology? Internet <---> "Main router" <--> "router with DDWRT" <---> PS3
[22:00] <axizor> Yes TJ- is that an issue
[22:00] <Jeruvy> axizor ah.
[22:00] <Jeruvy> No switch then.
[22:00] <Beldar> Micky, There may be no preference than, might be easier to use an app, there are a handful in the ubuntu repos.
[22:00] <axizor> :(
[22:00] <axizor> That's a problem then
[22:00] <SASDOE> Mhhh how come I can't update openssl? I did update and upgrade and it stays at 1.0.1
[22:00] <axizor> Damn I just got done wiring half my house
[22:01] <SASDOE> And I think we all know that's not good
[22:01] <TJ-> axizor: OK... how is the "router with DDWRT" connected to "Main router" ? Specially, have you connected the DDWRT's "WAN" port to the "Main router"? If so, DDWRT will be firewalling/NATing the connections. If instead, you connect to one of the free LAN ports on the DDWRT it will work.
[22:01] <Jeruvy> You need to work with RIP to make that work, it would perform better to either disable the routing function on the second one, or eliminate it.
[22:01] <Jeruvy> axizor ^
[22:01] <axizor> Yes TJ- but the wan port is setup as a switch port
[22:01] <Alue> Hi, I am Alue. please help me to partition the disc.
[22:02] <TJ-> axizor: OK, but firewall/NAT may still be interfering. If there's a spare LAN port on the LAN switch of the DDWRT try using it
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Baako: Let's see what command filezilla is running when it tries to use an external editor. Please create a file with these contents: http://sprunge.us/ZOiS and make it executable with "chmod +x /path/to/file". Then tell filezilla to use this file to open text files, try opening a file, then tell us what "cat /tmp/what_filezilla_ran.txt" outputs.
[22:02] <axizor> Also I'm in ddwrt right now and the switch lists no clients
[22:02] <axizor> Is it because it's not on it's IP address range
[22:02] <SASDOE> Also I get this when I run apt-get upgrade http://bpaste.net/show/VBH2AXFdIYmX3YfoFT1Q/
[22:02] <Alue> I use Ubuntu 12.04
[22:02] <axizor> Ok TJ- I'll give it a shot thanks!
[22:03] <TJ-> axizor: Default configuration of DDWRT (and other home routers) is to bridge all the LAN ports together as one, but usually 'route' to other ports such as WAN
[22:05] <axizor> TJ- would it be ok to enable upnp in ddwrt switch page
[22:05] <axizor> For some reason the ps3 said off when it was disabled in the switch (it's enabled in "main router" )
[22:06] <axizor> Upnp that is
[22:06] <TJ-> axizor: That would only be useful if you were using DDWRT as a gateway router, but you're not, so no. I'd disable almost every service on the DDWRT device if all you want to use it for is a glorified LAN switch
[22:06] <Alue> hey please help me out.
[22:07] <SASDOE> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/openssl says openssl for 12.04 is at 1.0.1-4, why won't mine upgrade?
[22:07] <Bray90820_> bekks: where should i go from here
[22:07] <TJ-> axizor: It sounds to me as if you've got a jumbled network topology... Is there any reason why the PS3 needs to connect to the DDWRT?
[22:08] <Alue> hey is anyone there??? please help me out guys!!
[22:08] <axizor> TJ- yes, sadly. All my other ports are required and taken on the main router
[22:08] <Bashing-om> SASDOE: Terminal code -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- and for the other see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215886 .
[22:08] <TJ-> axizor: OK, so the purpose of the DDWRT device is really to be a dumb switch
[22:08] <axizor> Yes TJ- exactly
[22:09] <jkhl> trying to alias a google search as alias goodle='http://www.google.com/#q=' , problem is it doesn't work because theres a space between  google searchterm
[22:09] <meway> Hello I have a Lenovo y410 laptop. and I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64-bit as or 3-4 days ago. My wifi connection worked fine at first and now It does not work. If I use my live disk the wifi works. How do I fix this?
[22:09] <jkhl> google*
[22:09] <freddy57> who is god here?
[22:09] <axizor> Ha no wonder I see no clients in ddwrt, they were only listing wireless clients
[22:09] <booney907> Hi everyone, i have a problem with auto mount for a usb drive, my system changes the mount path whenever it wants, ie it adds a number to the end, used to have no number, then it had a 1 at the end, now it has a 2, how do i stop this?
[22:09] <TJ-> axizor: In which case have the absolute minimum services enabled on it (no DNS, no DHCP, no Firewall) and ensure the ports you're using as switch ports are all part of the same 'bridge' interface
[22:09] <cornfeedhobo> does anyone know what kernel version 12LTS server is running?
[22:10] <freddy57> prntscr program storage for linux?
[22:10] <freddy57> directories
[22:10] <axizor> TJ- having problems getting an ip now on windows workstation connected to switch...
[22:10] <kostkon> cornfeedhobo, 3.2, 3.5, or 3.11 depends of the installation date
[22:10] <kostkon> on*
[22:10] <Bashing-om> cornfeedhobo: That is relative --do you have Hardware enablement stack enabled ?
[22:11] <axizor> Yeah the PC is not getting an ip
[22:11] <axizor> I'll try resetting I suppose
[22:11] <Alue>  hey??????
[22:11] <TJ-> axizor: That sounds like the DDWRT *was* being used as a router, and its DHCP was handing out the addresses.
[22:11] <axizor> DHCP was disabled
[22:12] <axizor> I checked the ps3 and main router to ensure it was on the right up
[22:13] <TJ-> axizor: hmmm, without seeing the network hands-on I'm finding it difficult to visual the configuration that would cause this
[22:13] <axizor> Want me to mock up a map?
[22:14] <tarnap> i have one specific question on ubuntu server 12.04 LTS: why is there a “wireless-tools” script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ ? do servers really have wireless cards? my “server” is running on a virtual machine, i should be able to delete this script without corrupting the system, right?
[22:14] <TJ-> axizor: No, it's not the topology its the precise combination of device/service configurations I'm finding it hard to deduce, from your descriptions
[22:14] <axizor> Ah, ok TJ
[22:14] <axizor> The media server is just Plex
[22:14] <axizor> So it would be over DLNA on the ps3
[22:15] <Jordan_U> tarnap: I have a server that's connected via wireless. It happens to be at my house, and not particularly critical, but it's a server. Is there a reason you want to delete the file?
[22:15] <cornfeedhobo> Bashing-om: what?
[22:16] <TJ-> axizor: I've used DDWRT on a Linksys WRT54GL in the configuration you're aiming for without problems, in the past, so I have to assume that some combination of the configuration options or connections, or both, is causing your difficulties
[22:17] <tarnap> Jordan_U: ok, apparently there are reasons for wireless servers. well… yes, i know “the hardware” has no wireless module, therefore this script doesn’t have to be run at startup
[22:17] <Bashing-om> cornfeedhobo: If HES is enabled one may have the kernel from oneric, quantal. or raring releases.
[22:17] <tarnap> i could “chmod -x” it, but my question is rather… does the system depend on it? will it break the system for some black magical reasons?
[22:18] <keevitaja> hi, i got a wierd question. will ubuntu get slower in time, as windows does? like when i have clean install windows, it is pretty fast. but with time, it get slower untill the next fresh install. is it same with ubuntu?
[22:18] <TJ-> tarnap: You could just do "sudo apt-get remove wireless-tools"
[22:18] <Bashing-om> cornfeedhobo: see: -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[22:18] <OerHeks> keevitaja, only if you run out of diskspace.
[22:19] <tarnap> TJ-: so that’s part of wireless tools! thx
[22:19] <keevitaja> i will not, 300 gb should be enaugh
[22:19] <Jordan_U> tarnap: For future reference, "dpkg -S /path/to/file" is a handy command :)
[22:19] <TJ-> tarnap: To discover the package a file belongs to you can do "dpkg-query -S <partial-filename>"
[22:19] <tarnap> thx!
[22:20] <tarnap> i didn’t know dpkg did that
[22:20] <OerHeks> keevitaja, and if your system 's slowing down" open terminal: top  # this gives your system state and zombie processes
[22:20] <axizor> Hey TJ- I got disconnected in case you sent anything
[22:21] <TJ-> axizor: I've used DDWRT on a Linksys WRT54GL in the configuration you're aiming for without problems, in the past, so I have to assume that some combination of the configuration options or connections, or both, is causing your difficulties
[22:21] <bprompt> keevitaja:    more like PEBKAC as I understand it, the OS itself doesn't get slower.... I mean, is like buying a new car, it's fast, but if you start throwing in all kind of  junk  in it often, it gets slow, though the engine is running the same, is just the extra junk, I run windows7 and still runs fast, same with linux
[22:22] <nf7> keevitaja: Windows is the only OS I've ever used that suffers from that sort of speed degradation over time, though not if you know how to avoid it. Linux and OSX take considerably less effort to keep in tip top shape in my experience.
[22:22] <axizor> Alright TJ-, thanks I'll keep working on it
[22:22] <keevitaja> i do not install much junk and i allways uninstall programs i do not need anymore
[22:23] <keevitaja> and currently ubuntu is way faster then any clean windows installs i have had
[22:23] <SASDOE> Bashing-om: Won't this bring me to 13.10? I'd like to stay on LTS (sorry I lost the connection)
[22:23] <keevitaja> only thing what i hate, is some hardware issues... spent 5 hours to get my sd card working
[22:23] <meway_> soooooo what in the actual f**$ ... I popped in my live disk and my wifi now works on the install.. What happend? why is this doing this?
[22:23] <SASDOE> Bashing-om: running an apt-get dist-upgrade that is
[22:24] <keevitaja> otherwise it's cool. i only need 2 windows programs which are working with wine as well
[22:24] <Baako> what does chmod 700 do?
[22:24] <meway_> Like popping in the disk fixed the issue but I'd like to know what the issue was...
[22:24] <booney907> is there a way to stop the automount assigning a different number to the end of my ext hdd? example the mount location was ExtShed and then it changed to ExtShed1 now ExtShed2, there's no additional drives and it means i have to keep changing apps to point to different locations, i'd rather it stayed as one mount point
[22:24] <nf7> keevitaja: What version of Windows were you on?
[22:24] <keevitaja> win7
[22:24] <SASDOE> Baako: grants user all rights and no rights to group or others to selected file
[22:24] <bprompt> keevitaja:     well, the uninstalls in windows don't quite remove everything often times, that's also true for some packages in *nix though the *Inix removals do a better job than the windows ones
[22:24] <Jordan_U> SASDOE: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" doesn't upgrade you to a new verison of Ubuntu. It just allows apt to remove packages if needed to install newer versions of existing packages.
[22:24] <Bashing-om> SASDOE: Nope, 'dist-upgrade' uses apt-get's smart mode to resolve that kerenel dependency, will not version upgrade.
[22:25] <SASDOE> Ok sweet thank you
[22:25] <keevitaja> and i'm running dell e5420
[22:25] <Baako> SASDOE is that a right permission to set for a .ssh folder?
[22:25] <keevitaja> had to do clean installs every six month or so to keep it usable
[22:25] <Bashing-om> SASDOE: np, glad to assist.
[22:26] <SASDOE> Baako: I think so yes.
[22:27] <keevitaja> bprompt should i do apt-get remove or purge?
[22:27] <nf7> keevitaja: Yeah Windows can bog down like that. Windows 7 was a lot better than previous versions in my experience though. Windows 8.1 even more so.
[22:27] <keevitaja> years ago i was linux user. it was my only op. RH 6.9 - RH 8.0
[22:28] <bprompt> keevitaja:    apt-get remove does the job, then do an apt-get autoremove  <---- for any leftover libs
[22:30] <keevitaja> will i run into any compability issues with libreoffice and ms office? i do not use any poweruser sheets or anything...
[22:30] <bprompt> keevitaja:     than maybe not
[22:31] <cornfeedhobo> Bashing-om: gotchya
[22:31] <nf7> keevitaja: It won't be perfect all the time but it should be fine for most things.
[22:32] <keevitaja> for simple algebra and styling it will be ok? i can open ms office and vice versa?
[22:32] <bprompt> keevitaja:   yes
[22:32] <nf7> keevitaja: I think there's cloud based web app version of Office now if you really need it.
[22:32] <nf7> I could be wrong though.
[22:32] <keevitaja> do i have to pay for it extra?
[22:33] <nf7> keevitaja: Almost assuredly. It's Microsoft!
[22:33] <Bashing-om> cornfeedhobo: Roger that, -- just my bit to try and help.
[22:33] <nf7> keevitaja: But I don't know, I'm just guessing.
[22:33] <keevitaja> ok, thanx for the help
[22:34] <keevitaja> one thing more... next week there will be new lts release. should i upgrade or wait little bit for bugfixes?
[22:35] <nf7> keevitaja: I'm already on the new version, it seems to be quite stable.
[22:35] <keevitaja> and in windows i was able to change keyboard layout with alt+shift. anything like that for ubuntu?
[22:36] <Scitz0> I'm in a bit of panic mode right now, did an long overdue upgrade of my ubuntu server last night and now I cant decrypt my raid anymore :(
[22:36] <cornfeedhobo> Bashing-om: it was :)  i am trying to evaluate ubuntu vs centos for an openstack test deployment
[22:36] <Scitz0> cryptsetup luksOpen gives me "No key available with this passphrase"
[22:36] <nf7> keevitaja: Try windows key + space
[22:36] <idimmu> Scitz0: pastebin it all pls
[22:36] <idimmu> so i can have a look
[22:37] <Scitz0> ok
[22:37] <keevitaja> nf7: key?
[22:37] <cornfeedhobo> Scitz0: include your bash history
[22:37] <nf7> keevitaja: You'll need to add more input sources first though. Settings > Text Entry
[22:37] <nf7> keevitaja: The shortcut can also be configured there.
[22:37] <Scitz0> the thing is that I have a special character in my passphrase so I think it has something to do with locale
[22:38] <Bashing-om> cornfeedhobo: At least you have options ,, having never run centos, can't say much.
[22:38] <Scitz0> paste of apt upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7237049/
[22:40] <Scitz0> I dont think bash history will be of any use... done alot of other stuff since then
[22:40] <big_> here is crazy computer video of internet on youtube watch?v=DnP856sEM4g
[22:41] <cornfeedhobo> Bashing-om: i am going to stick to centos i guess on this one.... there is an optimized xcp DomU kernel
[22:42] <Bashing-om> cornfeedhobo: openstack test deployment, ya might wnat to visit:http://discourse.ubuntu.com/ , If ya got the time.
[22:42] <big_> good video watch?v=DnP856sEM4g
[22:43] <keevitaja> where is the show desktop button?
[22:43] <bprompt> keevitaja:     winkey-D I think would be the same as in windows
[22:44] <nf7> keevitaja: Hold the Super key (the windows key) to see a bunch of helpful shortcuts.
[22:44] <keevitaja> oh, thanx!
[22:44] <Baako> hi guys i have specific the path to where to private key is and when i try connectign to my sever it is still asking for a password and the root user doesnt have a password
[22:44] <nf7> keevitaja: I believe show the desktop is "super + ctrl + d
[22:44] <nf7> "
[22:44] <keevitaja> what is this super key_
[22:44] <kostkon> keevitaja, the option is in your appearance settings. the button will appear in your launcher if you enable it
[22:44] <Scitz0> some cryptsetup output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7237080/
[22:45] <kostkon> icon*
[22:45] <nf7> keevitaja: Do you have a key on your keyboard with the Windows logo on it?
[22:45] <keevitaja> yes, is windows key the super key?
[22:45] <nf7> keevitaja: That's the super key.
[22:45] <SASDOE> It's been unpacking the kernel for 20 minutes has it hung or is it super slow? Running a dist-upgrade
[22:45] <keevitaja> ok
[22:45] <nf7> keevitaja: On an Apple keyboard it would be the command key.
[22:45] <elijahlynn> What is this / in the crontab? */2 * * * *
[22:45] <keevitaja> never had a mac
[22:45] <nf7> keevitaja: Completely unbranded keyboards might have it blank.
[22:45] <keevitaja> only the big one :)
[22:45] <SASDOE> elijahlynn: means every two minutes
[22:46] <keevitaja> i also have fn key. any use for that?
[22:46] <Guest33558> I'm getting movement of bar under Volume Control GUI App but still sound?!
[22:46] <Bashing-om> SASDOE: Should not take that long ! .. however, dependong on network speed, maybe ?
[22:46] <Guest33558> It's like the speak is off
[22:47] <JohnT> speaker
[22:47] <nf7> keevitaja: Haha
[22:47] <nf7> keevitaja: Well the other kind are quite exceptional machines, especially the OS. Ubuntu reminds me a lot of OSX in fact, in ways.
[22:47] <elijahlynn> SASDOE: thanks, do you know what the / actually does though, would it be every two minutes if there were no slash? eg * 2 * * * *
[22:47] <JohnT> anyone?
[22:48] <dioioib> what is the question
[22:48] <JohnT> I have activity on the bottom bar of volume control. What do I need to actually get sound out of the speakers?
[22:48] <dioioib> JohnT: what are you asking?
[22:48] <dioioib> ok
[22:49] <dioioib> so you are getting no sound at all?
[22:49] <JohnT> not one bit.
[22:49] <JohnT> but if i play a continous sound video i get status activity of the sounds.
[22:49] <JohnT> (in graphics form)
[22:49] <dioioib> have you installed the alsa drivers
[22:49] <JohnT> yes
[22:49] <dioioib> ok.
[22:49] <JohnT> alsamixer
[22:49] <dioioib> one sec
[22:49] <JohnT> all the way to the top
[22:50] <dioioib> ok and in the mixer the volume for the main channel is up?
[22:50] <JohnT> yes
[22:50] <XmoochyX> hello all
[22:50] <SASDOE> elijahlynn: no it's needed. It's sort of like if minutes % nb == 0
[22:50] <dioioib> ok check that your speakers are connected to PC. Check that they have power. if they don't have power try turning the on switch off.
[22:50] <cornfeedhobo> Bashing-om: thx
[22:51] <JohnT> yes, i had them working fine in xp
[22:51] <garyis2me> What is a good decent web cam for Ubuntu 13.10, and  software to run it.??
[22:51] <dioioib> ok. one sec. I will look into it for you
[22:51] <keevitaja> one thing more. scrolling with ms mouse is awful. i tried one old acme mouse(with cable) and it is perfect. any idea why or how to fix this?
[22:52] <Micky> Hi, so I have same basic questions (I am relatively new to Linux)... Does anyone know whether Lubuntu has the same repo server as Ubuntu?
[22:52] <dioioib> JohnT: when you load alsamixer is there a sound device listed?
[22:53] <teaearlgraycold> TJ-: I figured out destructors today. Had that "aha" moment.
[22:53] <Micky> ...And do I get secuirty updates for Lubuntu as fast as for Ubuntu?
[22:53] <nf7> keevitaja: I'm not sure. It's a bit of a hassle to configure mice. I'm actually using a MS mouse right now, but it doesn't feel nearly as good on Ubuntu. You'll have to ask someone else I'm afraid.
[22:54] <dioioib> also try this in terminal $ pacmd
[22:54] <JohnT> yes
[22:54] <JohnT> i followed the just about the whole ubuntu doc page for audio.
[22:55] <dioioib> ok. so you did the trouble shooting doc?
[22:55] <dioioib> did you try playing an audio file as sudo?
[22:55] <bprompt> Micky:   I run kubuntu, pretty much the same repository
[22:55] <dioioib> or try sudo alsa force-reload
[22:56] <bprompt> Micky:   you can simply just check your sources  /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:56] <JohnT> yes
[22:56] <JohnT> yes
[22:56] <SASDOE> Will it cause any problems that I updated my grub with an external drive mounted?
[22:57] <SASDOE> Knowing that it had a bootable partition etc.
[22:57] <bprompt> SASDOE:      FROM an external drive, or just WITH an external drive mounted?
[22:57] <SASDOE> No WITH not from
[22:57] <dioioib> JohnT: ok. and just to humor me can you check to make sure it is in the right port?
[22:57] <SASDOE> grub mentionned it while updating
[22:57] <dioioib> and or try the front facing ports if you have them
[22:58] <SASDOE> http://bpaste.net/show/GIsf9eH1wC0M8RQZOir1/
[22:58] <Scitz0> idimmu: I can decrypt other encrypted volumes that doesn't contain special chars, just the one with a ö in the passphrase that fails
[22:58] <bprompt> SASDOE:    it may include in the grub.cfg... then again, you can just unplug it, and run sudo update-grub again
[22:58] <TJ-> SASDOE: It's possible that the "/etc/grub.d/" scripts will have os-probed the mounted device, and included its bootable OSes in the new grub.cfg
[22:58] <SASDOE> But will grub fail without it?
[22:58] <JohnT> great now my videos pause for no reason
[22:58] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[22:58] <JohnT> dioioib: yes it is
[22:58] <SASDOE> Yeah I'll just run a grub-update. But out of curiousity would it have?
[22:58] <JohnT> light green
[22:58] <bprompt> SASDOE:    nope, you'd just have a "zombie" entry in the grub menu
[22:58] <TJ-> SASDOE: You can disable the os-prober by adding "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" to "/etc/default/grub"
[22:59] <SASDOE> Good thks!
[22:59] <dioioib> JohnT: ok thanks
[22:59] <SASDOE> Na it's fine I'm just copying old files
[22:59] <vardle> helo everyone
[22:59] <bprompt> allo vardle
[22:59] <vardle> I am formatting my system to reinstall ubuntu and facing graphics issues which is second in line
[22:59] <Jordan_U> Scitz0: There are multiple ways to represent an umlout in utf8. I don't know if passphrases are canonicallized normally, but if not then that might be the problem.
[23:00] <dioioib> JohnT: can you run $ cat /dev/urandom | aplay
[23:00] <SASDOE> Oh but wait dist-updgrade then update and upgrade didn't bring openssl to 1.0.1-4 ...
[23:00] <JohnT> great now i can't play videos
[23:00] <JohnT> dioioib: i hear nothing, but no errors.
[23:01] <TJ-> teaearlgraycold: That's great :) (sorry I missed your comment initially)
[23:01] <dioioib> ok.
[23:01] <Scitz0> Jordan_U: ok, any suggestion on how to proceed?
[23:01] <vardle> first is a huge problem and that is from the usb ubuntu I see  4 different sizes of the same folder  !!.  nautilus tells me ( contents unreadable) but content size as 7.3 gb but 13.6 gb is 'used' . I tried using ncdu and that tells me  8.7 GiB and 9.2 GiB respective . My head is spinning .
[23:02] <JohnT> dioioib: aplay: pcm_write:1939: write error: Input/output error
[23:02] <teaearlgraycold> I got to thinking about destructors when I decided I'd like to create an IRC bot in C++. When thinking about how to keep connections cleanly disconnected I would just close the socket in the destructor.
[23:02] <Micky> bprompt: thanks, I havent installed lubuntu yet. Basically I am looking for a secure distribution that is fast because I want to install it on a laptop with a VM on it...
[23:02] <dioioib> ok. sounds like it might not be directed to the right hardware device.
[23:02] <Bashing-om> SASDOE: openssal version will rmain the same, but the patch will be installed, see the link I provided earlier.
[23:02] <teaearlgraycold> And that the destructor is simply a block of code that's ran upon the destuction of a block of code.
[23:02] <dioioib> can you do an $ lshw and look for the id of the audio device
[23:03] <SASDOE> Bashing-om: just realised that by running apt-cache policy openssl libssl-dev
[23:03] <JohnT> yes, i'm not using my on board one and that has been disabled in bios.
[23:03] <SASDOE> Thanks
[23:03] <vardle> bprompt, any idea ?
[23:03] <dioioib> ah ok. is it usb?
[23:03] <JohnT> nope pci
[23:03] <dioioib> ok. lspci should show us.
[23:04] <Bashing-om> SASDOE: the test is -> openssl version -a <- .
[23:04] <JohnT> 01:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster
[23:04] <dioioib> is there a hardware id. like PCI:#:#
[23:04] <Jordan_U> Scitz0: Try both 'ö' and 'ö' (Pre-composed vs o + combining diaeresis).
[23:05] <bprompt> vardle:     hmm   what is reporting those sizes of what  directory ?
[23:05] <vardle> bprompt, let me show you. just a min
[23:05] <barrett> i have a second desktop manager uxlaunch for running xbmc, for some reason it started poping up the nvidia-xconfig window at startup and I can't figure out how to prevent this. any ideas?
[23:05] <JohnT> dioioib: thats all i can see, all the other rows are non related.
[23:05] <barrett> i cant close it since xbmc in uxlaunch has no window boarders
[23:06] <k4r1m> umount is telling me a drive his not mounted and mount is saying it's already mounted. I initially unmounted using -f. Any suggestions?
[23:06] <dioioib> damn. I need that hardware id.
[23:06] <JohnT> dioioib: gotta reboot brb.
[23:06] <dioioib> k
[23:08] <vardle> bprompt, this is my output from nautilus http://imagebin.org/305115  and this is what I get from ncdu -    Total disk usage:   8.7GiB  Apparent size:   9.2GiB  Items: 23374
[23:08] <Bashing-om> SASDOE: If the date is on/after Apr 7 "built on: Mon Apr  7 20:33:19 UTC 2014" you are covered.
[23:09] <Scitz0> Jordan_U: not sure I fully understand... by pre-composed you mean hitting the ö key one my keyboard?, and how do I do for "o + combining diaeresis"?
[23:10] <JohnT> dioioib: ever since you told me to force reload my videos pause, and cannot restart.
[23:10] <dioioib> crap
[23:11] <JohnT> 19 seconds in, bam, total freeze.
[23:11] <JohnT> cannot continue
[23:11] <Jordan_U> Scitz0: Copy and paste the characters from my message if possible. (hopefully the encoding wasn't lost between our two clients).
[23:12] <dioioib> can you drop to shell?
[23:12] <JohnT> yes, everything is fine, just no audio.
[23:12] <dioioib> ok. is video working now
[23:12] <vardle> is this a problem coz of links ?
[23:13] <JohnT> of course it isn't working
[23:13] <dioioib> is the video playing back at all or is there no sound?
[23:14] <bprompt> vardle:      what do you get from  ->   df -lh   <--- ?
[23:14] <JohnT> no sound, and ever since you told me to force reload all flash videos pause and then nothing else.
[23:14] <dioioib> ok.
[23:14] <vardle> one sec bprompt
[23:14] <IainKayDykes> anybody been testing 14.04 server beta 2 with xenserver?
[23:15] <hillary> help with a command to kill an hanging application. ubuntu 12.04
[23:15] <hillary> my netbeans hangs
[23:15] <dioioib> well there are recommendations to purge and reload alsa. http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[23:15] <willwh> hillary: sudo killall netbeans?
[23:15] <willwh> or; ps aux | grep netbeans
[23:15] <willwh> and; kill -15 <the process ID>
[23:15] <willwh> if that doesn't work, kill -9 ;)\
[23:16] <vardle> bprompt, for df -lh varun/  I get  used : 12G and Available 15G
[23:16] <Scitz0> Jordan_U, either copy messed with encoding or none of the ones you typed worked
[23:16] <JohnT> No permission to use the keyboard API for http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net
[23:17] <barrett> can I uninstall nvidia-settings?
[23:17] <Jordan_U> Scitz0: There are (at least) two ways of writing that character in utf8. One way is with the two byte sequece for that specific character, 0xc3b6, and another is with the one byte for 'o', ox6f plus the two byte sequence for "Add two dots to the preceding character", 0x308, for a complete three byte sequence of 0x6f0308 .
[23:18] <hillary> all  not working
[23:18] <dioioib> JohnT: here is the text in pastebin http://pastebin.com/W5YUDjRh
[23:18] <hillary> how can i check process running?
[23:18] <dioioib> ps -A
[23:18] <Scitz0> hmm, ok
[23:19] <JohnT> dioioib: let me reboot
[23:19] <dioioib> k
[23:20] <blip-> hi all, I run dual boot windows+linux with GRUB2 managing the boot.  I need to shrink and move the /boot partition to bring some space over to the windows first partition.
[23:20] <Jordan_U> Scitz0: You can use the utility "xdd" to get a hex dump of anything, including stdin.
[23:20] <vardle> hillary, on the cli you can do : ps ax | grep netbeans and then see the process number and then do -- kill -9  procnumber
[23:20] <blip-> i only need to reinstall grub right ?  Is there an easy way to do this in ubuntu ?
[23:20] <blip-> like a wrapper that will do all the checks
[23:20] <blip-> or even a gui
[23:20] <vardle> bprompt, any ideas ?
[23:22] <Baako> anyone know why filezilla doesnt reconized the format of the private key generate using ssh keygen?
[23:22] <bprompt> vardle:     .....  hmmm   if I read your screenshot correcly.... it says 7.3Gbs in folder "home" subfolder of "media", thus /media/home,   , "disk where media folder is at" has a capacity of 29.6Gbs, 16Gb free, and 13.6 used
[23:23] <Scitz0> Jordan_U, can't find xdd in my system... apt-get didnt find it either
[23:23] <hillary> processes running in my ubuntu 12.04
[23:23] <Jordan_U> Scitz0: Sorry, "xxd".
[23:23] <bprompt> vardle:    .... about ... ncdu.... ahemm.... ... dunno on that one
[23:23] <dioioib> hillary: ps -A
[23:23] <Scitz0> ahh :)
[23:24] <vardle> bprompt, okay but my question about nautilus is why is it 7.3 gbs and not 13.6 ?
[23:24] <bprompt> hillary:     try installing "qps" maybe
[23:24] <vardle> that is a huge gap
[23:24] <hillary> i mean which terminal command can i use to check running processes in ubuntu 12.04
[23:25] <bprompt> hillary:  top
[23:25] <Jordan_U> Scitz0: There are also many Ubuntu channels for other languages, like #ubuntu-de for german. They might be more familiar with common caveats of non-ascii characters in passphrases. That is assuming that you speak such a language fluently so that you can ask and understand the answers given in such channels :)
[23:25] <vardle> hillary, system monitor is an alredy installed program and tells you all those processes. can try the windows key > type system > clik on system monitor > go to processes
[23:25] <bprompt> hillary:   or qps   for GUI  -> http://wood1978.dyndns.org/~wood/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Qps.png
[23:25] <vardle> hillary, ps ax
[23:25] <dioioib> yeah top would work
[23:26] <vardle> or top sure  .
[23:26] <Scitz0> ok, I'm from Sweden and I don't speak german very well
[23:26] <vardle> bprompt, so why the huge diff ?  7.3 vs 13
[23:26] <Scitz0> how do I use this xxd utility
[23:28] <bprompt> vardle:    the screenshot means... 7.3Gbs used by /media/home folder alone, 13Gbs are used, so from all 13Gbs used in that device, /media/home is taking up 7.3Gbs
[23:29] <vardle> bprompt, so you mean /media is using 13 gigs ?
[23:30] <bprompt> vardle:    /media/home    the listing in the window is a bit ..... shown as ..... home folder, whose parent folder is /media
[23:30] <bprompt> vardle:    so /media/home is taking up 50% of lthe 13.6Gbs used in the device with 29.6Gbs capacity
[23:31] <bprompt> well.... about 50% a bit less
[23:31] <vardle> bprompt, do you mean that if  I choose all folders inside /media/home/ and do a 'properties' on it , it should not give me 13. 6 gb ?
[23:32] <bprompt> vardle:     it'll show the 13.6 on all, since that's the amount for the device, not the folder, the amount used in  that device where that folder is at
[23:32] <vardle> bprompt, my question is 'what' files are taking up the 13.6 - 7 = 5.6 gb and where are they ?
[23:32] <baude87> hi
[23:32] <JohnT> wow, left me high and dry
[23:32] <dioioib> whats up
[23:33] <JohnT> dioioib: there you are
[23:33] <Jordan_U> !se | Scitz0
[23:33] <JohnT> dioioib: google chrome video doesn't stop like firefox. but I removed alsa-base.
[23:33] <quidnunc> I just installed Trusty and it looks like the structure of dovecot.conf changed dramatically. Can someone tell me what I need to do to update my config?
[23:33] <dioioib> ok so. it is probably just a setting to auto play or something we will look into that in a bit.
[23:34] <vardle> bprompt, I want to find out what files are taking the 5 gigs on the device. how do I find that out ? I never knew this would be so difficult to understand !!
[23:34] <JohnT> yes, works fine now under firefox. it's something in alsa-base.
[23:34] <JohnT> or alsa-utils
[23:34] <vardle> coming from a windows environment  I mean
[23:34] <JohnT> no sounds still.
[23:34] <dioioib> johnT: and you are getting audio too?
[23:34] <bprompt> vardle:      assuming /media/home is some mounted filesystem , thus a device itself.... where are the other 5.6Gbs.... hmmmm maybe hidden files/folders
[23:34] <JohnT> i also enabled my internel sound card.
[23:34] <Jordan_U> Scitz0: If you do solve the problem please keep me updated. I'm curious :)
[23:34] <JohnT> nope, no sounds at all.
[23:35] <SASDOE> vardle: du -h | sort -h -r
[23:35] <dioioib> JohnT: what version of ubuntu is it?
[23:35] <vardle> SASDOE, okay lemm try that
[23:35] <Scitz0> Jordan_U, sure
[23:35] <SASDOE> vardle: you might want to pipe that to head
[23:36] <Kihokki> I'm going to give ssh access to few users but how do I prevent them browsing each others homedirs? Just chmod?
[23:36] <zykotick9> SASDOE: you don't need a "-" for each switch, so in your example ".. sort -hr" should work
[23:36] <vardle> SASDOE, that gave me a tonne of output
[23:36] <SASDOE> zykotick9: trye
[23:37] <vardle> how do I do the pipe to 'head' ? what is head ?
[23:37] <SASDOE> run this then du -h | sort -h -r | head
[23:37] <hillary> netbeans still hangs
[23:37] <hillary> netbeans7.4
[23:38] <vardle> SASDOE, THanks ! so finally I have it . without a sudo I get permission denied directories with a . and then with a sudo I get 12 gigs occupied and no permission denied
[23:38] <JohnT> dioioib: how can i switch to my onboard nvidia sound?
[23:39] <bprompt> vardle:    maybe using "filelight" -> http://main.makeuseoflimited.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/baobab.jpg  <--  it's in the repositories, so
[23:39] <vardle> bprompt, thanks. and I got the solution :)
[23:40] <vardle> I tried sudo ncdu and that too gave me like 11.1 which is better coz 7.3 was weird
[23:40] <dioioib> JohnT: nvidia sound you would need to check your /proc/asound/cards using $ sudo cat /proc/asound/cards
[23:40] <dioioib> see if it is listed
[23:40] <vardle> SASDOE, question : why does sudo ncdu , sudo df -h |  .... , and sudo nautilus give me different sizes for the same folder ?
[23:41] <JohnT> dioioib: pavucontrol seems to make videos lock.
[23:42] <JohnT> http://pastie.org/9074014
[23:42] <vardle> SASDOE, oo I got it , it is a GiB to GB issue
[23:42] <dioioib> pavcontrol.. ok
[23:43] <dioioib> ok so it is there. one sec
[23:44] <dioioib> ok can you load alsa-mixer?
[23:44] <dioioib> press F6
[23:44] <JohnT> yes
[23:45] <dioioib> can you see your card in the F6 menu?
[23:45] <zykotick9> vardle: don't use sudo with gui apps, see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for more details
[23:46] <JohnT> yes, bot of them
[23:46] <JohnT> both
[23:47] <dioioib> ok. can you go into your /etc/asound.conf and paste that to me
[23:48] <JohnT> dioioib: not a valid path/file
[23:48] <dioioib> oh.
[23:49] <JohnT> dioioib: going to bed.
[23:49] <JohnT> goodnight
[23:50] <dioioib> ok. you might need to make your default file manually
[23:50] <dioioib> night
[23:50] <dioioib> http://pastie.org/9074028
[23:51] <JohnT> k
[23:51] <JohnT> see ya l8r
[23:55] <apb1963> So I was able to get my USB headset working...  anyone interested in how I did it?
[23:56] <apb1963> Here was my original question:
[23:56] <apb1963> 12.04... I have a USB speakerphone...
[23:56] <apb1963> alsa -l lists it as "card 1: Set [C-Media USB Headphone Set], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]".  I get no sound out of it (nor does the mic. seem to work).  It's a Kinyo ArtDio "True USB VoIP Speaker" model SS-100/SS-100B
[23:57] <apb1963> Someone suggested I pick the sound card through alsamixer... but that didn't work.
[23:57] <quidnunc> How do I get dpkg to overwrite my config with maintainer's version?
[23:57] <dioioib> apb1963: JohnT would be but he just logged out
[23:57] <apb1963> Interestingly, kmix was able to access it.
[23:58] <apb1963> However, the correct solution was..... <drum roll please>
[23:58] <rww> Windows 8.1
[23:58] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[23:59] <dioioib> apb1963: Windows 8.1? That is the solution to mixed video cards
[23:59] <apb1963> I had to select the device in the program that actually needed to use it.  My VoIP softphone.  Tadaaaaa.  Sadly the device has too much echo and is therefore useless.  Oh well.
[23:59] <dioioib> apb1963: is it usb?
[23:59] <apb1963> dioioib: yes
[23:59] <Johnny_Linux> use a bias resistor between the out and in,