| james0r2 | Xubuntu 14.04 official release date the 17th like ubuntu? | 00:01 |
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| Unit193 | Same day. | 00:01 |
| Unit193 | All official flavors. | 00:01 |
| james0r2 | ahh okay. | 00:01 |
| james0r2 | i think i'll be coming back to xfce + ubuntu from Debian testing. I like new shiny stuff but i'm finding i get too much breakage on deb testing. | 00:03 |
| skribblezatcha | lol whats up james0r2.;) | 00:08 |
| james0r2 | skribblezatcha, hey not much. your nick looks familiar | 00:09 |
| skribblezatcha | yeah i know from over on the mint channel man. | 00:10 |
| skribblezatcha | which i am in as we speak actually. how are things with you? | 00:10 |
| james0r2 | ahh right. | 00:10 |
| james0r2 | pretty good man. having some good coffee and watching Super Why with my daughter. she's saying random stuff and being funny. | 00:11 |
| james0r2 | you looking forward to 14.04 (LM17) ? | 00:11 |
| bazhang | !ot | 00:11 |
| ubottu | #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 00:11 |
| james0r2 | skribblezatcha, im over on LM -chat chan | 00:12 |
| skribblezatcha | cool james0r2, sounds like a good time.:) | 00:13 |
| skribblezatcha | i will show you what i have done on the mint channel. one sec. | 00:13 |
| kupo_ | Is it possible to safely remove thunar without destroying desktop | 03:00 |
| holstein | kupo_: sure... but whats the goal? free up a little hard drive space? | 03:00 |
| kupo_ | well. i use pcmanfm and yes. to get rid of it. but yes | 03:01 |
| holstein | kupo_: so, you need to free up a tiny bit of hard drive space, then? | 03:01 |
| kupo_ | sure. get rid of unwanted packages bloat etc | 03:01 |
| kupo_ | i dont like having certain things i don't use | 03:01 |
| kupo_ | pretty sure i got rid of thunar once and it killed the OS. but maybe i didnt have another file manager installed at the time | 03:02 |
| holstein | http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5293 | 03:02 |
| kupo_ | it says "xubuntu-desktop" in synaptic | 03:02 |
| holstein | kupo_: you are using it, likely, for the desktop icons, etc | 03:02 |
| kupo_ | oh. so it will get rid of my menu etc? | 03:02 |
| holstein | kupo_: it will get rid of thunar, and what it provides you | 03:03 |
| kupo_ | i'll just keep if it's a problem. not a big deal | 03:03 |
| holstein | kupo_: i would.. if you are using XFCE, you probably want to keep it. | 03:03 |
| kupo_ | alright than | 03:04 |
| kupo_ | i'd like to try ubuntu mini install. but not using ethernet. so sort of ruins installment | 03:04 |
| holstein | !mini | 03:04 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 03:04 |
| holstein | you could pull over what you need for wifi manually, i suppose | 03:05 |
| kupo_ | yeah. i'm just behind wireless ince router is 3 rooms away and i use desktops. i could. or just move my desktop in that room for some minutes. i have a junker pc . that is where i test most stuff. running xubuntu as well. with 1 gig of ram. runs rather nicely | 03:06 |
| kupo_ | some reason hibernation is faded out of power menu. do they just consider standby the same thing now? | 03:10 |
| x200 | Hi, I have problem. Please can you help me? I try boot in recovery mode. But If i try press shift in boot, it is do anything... My xubuntu boot in normal system. | 03:11 |
| holstein | kupo_: can depend on hardware support and configuraiton | 03:11 |
| kupo_ | yeah. had it in hibernation before. i'll check and see what happens brb | 03:11 |
| holstein | x200: i'll just edit my grub and make it show the menu | 03:12 |
| holstein | x200: thats all shift is trying to do, show the hidden grub so you can choose the recovery console.. could be something is *quite* corrupt though, causing a larger issue | 03:13 |
| kupo_ | well works. i just have to replu gin my usb adaptor | 03:14 |
| kupo_ | does the same thing on other machine heh | 03:14 |
| kupo_ | well. that was suspend. if i could try to get hibernate to work. that may be different | 03:15 |
| kupo_ | oh well. ssd makes it just as fast anyways | 03:15 |
| holstein | kupo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq | 03:16 |
| x200 | I try all shift. | 03:16 |
| holstein | kupo_: if you have cusomized your swap or removed. | 03:16 |
| kupo_ | oh cool. will check with gparted now. it makes swap space automatically usually when installtion right? | 03:18 |
| x200 | I find problem, Grub is not display, becouse I use old NB, without internal lcd, only external monitor. And in external monitor, is "no signal". But if I press shift, and after few seconds I try press down key, I be at grub menu. Please tell me, what is position of recovery mode in grub? I must find it "blind" :D | 03:19 |
| kupo_ | yeah. i have 3.50 gigs of swap lul | 03:19 |
| kupo_ | seems to be a little too much right?/ | 03:20 |
| kupo_ | whole system only has 5.38 gigs used. not bad att all | 03:21 |
| delt | speaking of which, my swapspace isn't enabled by the init scripts. i have to manually enable it at boot | 03:38 |
| delt | actually i added the swapon command to my /etc/rc.local | 03:38 |
| chrispage1980 | hello, anybody know why when I change the conf file in lightdm so the logon background is blank it still shows this new wallpaper? Also I just done a fresh install and I have a blank plugin indicator and no sound menu. | 04:24 |
| xubuntu852 | hey all, short question: will new xubuntu lts still have support for just three years? should i install ubuntu with xfce package instead to have 5 years support or will i get updates anyway but just no support? thx | 06:21 |
| moetunes | !lts | 06:23 |
| ubottu | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Xubuntu will be supported for 3 years. The current LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) | 06:23 |
| Artemis3 | xubuntu852, don't do that because its the same. ubuntu and xubuntu are identical but they have some different packages installed | 06:25 |
| xubuntu852 | yes, i know ... but that's why i'm confused because the ubuntu lts will have 5 years support | 06:28 |
| Artemis3 | xubuntu852, the packages maintained by canonical (ie kernel) will get the updates the same 5 years | 06:28 |
| xubuntu852 | so, the 3-years is just for confusing people ;) thx | 06:29 |
| xubuntu852 | then i'll install xubuntu in a few days :) | 06:29 |
| Artemis3 | xubuntu852, it means the other packages such as xfce will not be updated anymore after 3 years | 06:29 |
| xubuntu852 | thats ok ... | 06:30 |
| Artemis3 | there is no difference if you install ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop to just installing xubuntu | 06:30 |
| Artemis3 | (except the extra packages from unity, etc) | 06:31 |
| xubuntu852 | so, in real ubuntu doesn't get full 5 years support ... ;) | 06:31 |
| Artemis3 | canonical will keep updating (security updates?) unity whereas the team maintaining xubuntu stops at 3 years the package they keep track of, which again is a very small subset from the repository | 06:32 |
| Artemis3 | the packages they track, which are installed by ubuntu-desktop metapackage get 5 years | 06:33 |
| Artemis3 | the other packages are maintained by the different community teams | 06:34 |
| Artemis3 | and they decide how many years to keep track of them | 06:34 |
| Artemis3 | xubuntu852, sticking to LTS is a good idea, you could try going from 12.04 to 14.04 | 06:35 |
| xubuntu852 | no, currently having 11.10 ;) will do a new install | 06:38 |
| xubuntu852 | thx for your explanations | 06:40 |
| Guido1 | Hello, I would like to change the location of some maps in my profile like music, pictures etc. How can I do that? I also would like uninstall some programs. the siftwercenter shows al installed programs, but I can't uninstal them from there. (I also want to remove some programs i installed with the commenadline so that other programs run. How can i see the relations?) | 07:30 |
| chrispage1980 | @guido1 sudo apt-get purge name-of-programme* && sudo apt-get autoremove | 07:38 |
| Guido1 | chrispage1980: but some pagages seam to consist of several smaler packages. so what i the correct name and i'm also interested in the relations of programs (which program did i installed to run another program) | 07:39 |
| bazhang | you can check the dependencies in a GUI fashion at packages.ubuntu.com Guido1 | 07:44 |
| Guido1 | bazhang: for example i tryed to instal node only to run one program | 07:46 |
| bazhang | what is node only | 07:51 |
| Guido1 | bazhang: not node only, but only node. node is something to run java aplications or so | 08:09 |
| ZatsuneNoMokou | Hi, the 14.04 rc wasn't supposed to be available the 10 of april? | 08:34 |
| knome | there isn't a special RC image | 08:36 |
| koegs | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule | 08:36 |
| ZatsuneNoMokou | Well, it's written there too | 08:38 |
| ZatsuneNoMokou | April 10th, ReleaseCandidate | 08:38 |
| knome | and as i said, there is no special RC image | 08:38 |
| ZatsuneNoMokou | okay | 08:38 |
| knome | you can download yesterday's daily and consider it the release candidate | 08:38 |
| ZatsuneNoMokou | okay | 08:38 |
| knome | or today's, to be exact | 08:39 |
| knome | which doesn't seem to be up yet | 08:39 |
| ZatsuneNoMokou | I'm Fr, so, it's already 11 of April for me | 08:39 |
| ZatsuneNoMokou | thanks anyway | 08:40 |
| Exsoul | Greetings everyone on this friday morning! :) | 09:08 |
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 09:08 |
| cfhowlett | Exsoul greetings. ask your Xubuntu question | 09:09 |
| Exsoul | At the moment i do not have a question. I've installed Xubuntu yesterday evening on an old laptop. And was overwhelmed by the performance ;D | 09:10 |
| cfhowlett | Exsoul happy to hear it. FYI, version 14.04 comes out next week. | 09:11 |
| Exsoul | Alrighty! Thanks! | 09:12 |
| xubuntu752 | hello' everybody | 10:38 |
| xubuntu752 | need one suggestion | 10:38 |
| cfhowlett | xubuntu752 ask | 10:38 |
| xubuntu752 | some trick to activate "fast search" in menu of xfce | 10:39 |
| xubuntu752 | like the one of solydx or w7 | 10:39 |
| xubuntu752 | clear? | 10:39 |
| xubuntu752 | when push the button of mouse head, is possible to have a string-query-fast-search line? | 10:41 |
| xubuntu752 | ... or I need to recompile xfce by myself tryng to mix with the one of solyx (if is possible to find the source) | 10:42 |
| knome | xubuntu752, you might want to look at whiskermenu | 10:50 |
| xubuntu752 | thx I will try | 11:00 |
| xubuntu752 | last question - whysker menu avalaible only from PPA, right? | 11:11 |
| knome | it will be in the repository (and installed by default for new installations) in 14.04 | 11:21 |
| Jay---- | How to I install amd catalyst on xubuntu. I get it working on Ubuntu but not xubuntu | 12:25 |
| knome | Jay----, there should be absolutely no difference to installation | 12:28 |
| limey | having problem with torrents not starting. firewall isnt on. any ideas? fresh install of xubuntu. deluge and transmission both just sit | 14:17 |
| limey | !# and windows work fine | 14:21 |
| ubottu | limey: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 14:21 |
| xubuntu370 | hi im installing xubuntu 14.04 but it stopped at config bcmwl-kernel-source, what do you suggest to do? | 15:39 |
| xubuntu370 | i mean dont continue installing the distro?????? | 15:41 |
| starrats | xubuntu370 this is a channel for 13.10 xubuntu, you might have better luck going to #xubuntu-devel channel for your answer. | 15:47 |
| jhenke | xubuntu370 14.04 is not released yet, best course of action would be to check if there is already a bug report about it and also check with #xubuntu-devel as suggested | 15:47 |
| xubuntu370 | thnak i will do | 15:48 |
| medeman | hey there, im having a weird xubuntu installation "problem" - the installer says I'm not connected to the internet...however I am connect, in fact I'm using this IRC from the live xubuntu... (13.10 amd64) | 16:43 |
| holstein | medeman: just dont connect.. and dont ask for connection, or updates during installation, or codecs | 16:44 |
| holstein | medeman: its just a few days really til 14.04, if you are doing a fresh installation.. there is no reason to stay a version behind for security reasons like some folks do on other OS's | 16:45 |
| medeman | holstein: well I gotta install a new OS on this device now - and it's fairly easy to upgrade 13.10 to 14.04 (right?) | 16:47 |
| holstein | medeman: i dont think so. i prefer fresh installs | 16:47 |
| holstein | medeman: "easy" is a matter of opinion in many cases.. and if you find that easier, enjouy | 16:47 |
| holstein | enjoy* | 16:47 |
| knome | it is fairly easy though :) | 16:47 |
| holstein | should just get a popup and click a button, and several hours later, you are updated.. | 16:48 |
| medeman | holstein: thx, in case it causes trouble i'll just fresh install - i just need to have an os on there right now and it wont really matter if I'll have to spend another 1-2 hours installing 14.04 in a few days | 16:48 |
| holstein | medeman: sure.. its just that it doesnt take my 1 to 2 hours to install 14.04.. it takes less than 10 minutes | 16:50 |
| xfcemagic | hi | 17:42 |
| xfcemagic | I'm installing xubuntu 13.10 in this moment and I opened this chat during the installing process | 17:43 |
| xfcemagic | I would like to know if I will can easily pass from 13.10 to the next LTS of xubuntu. | 17:43 |
| knome | yes, the upgrade will be available in about a week | 17:44 |
| xfcemagic | so I don't have to wait a week... I can use now the 13.10 and then pass to the new LTS without problems? | 17:44 |
| xfcemagic | I'm on a work machine | 17:44 |
| xfcemagic | so I need stability | 17:44 |
| xfcemagic | or maybe I have to install 12.04 and then do the upgrade to the next LTS when it will be out? | 17:45 |
| knome | if you can, i would wait the week | 17:46 |
| knome | so called "clean install" is always better than an upgrade | 17:46 |
| xfcemagic | I can't wait... :( | 17:46 |
| knome | it's hard to say which is better in this case... | 17:47 |
| xfcemagic | it's possibile that I'll have problems in the upgrade from 13.10 to 14 LTS ? | 17:47 |
| knome | while 12.04 is an LTS, it's only a week and the difference to 14.04 is bigger than from 13.10 | 17:47 |
| knome | otoh, 13.10 isn't an LTS, which... shouldn't be too much of a problem | 17:47 |
| knome | problems on upgrade are always possible (though unlikely in this case), but they will leave stuff behind you might not want and cause you minor inconveniences later | 17:48 |
| xfcemagic | but it's possible to upgrade from non-lts to lts? | 17:49 |
| knome | yes, from the latest non-LTS | 17:49 |
| knome | so you can upgrade to 14.04 from either 13.10 or 12.04 | 17:49 |
| xfcemagic | you mean 13.10 ? | 17:49 |
| knome | yep | 17:49 |
| xfcemagic | ok, thank you! | 17:49 |
| knome | there is a third option, which i wouldn't (normally) suggest... | 17:49 |
| knome | and it's know to come with certain problems not yet fixed; you could install from the daily 14.04 image | 17:50 |
| knome | but again, if you are looking for stability and that's the number one priority... i wouldn't do that | 17:50 |
| xfcemagic | ok, installation is finished now... I have to restart... Bye! | 17:51 |
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| doc-saintly | Hello all. I've just installed XUbuntu on my gigabyte Brix machine, and it seems that my SSH terminal runs slow :( I often have to wait for the typing to complete. | 19:09 |
| doc-saintly | How can I check if this is a network or a hardware issue? | 19:09 |
| RFleming | doc-saintly, can you pastebin the results of lspci? | 19:18 |
| doc-saintly | http://pastebin.com/PVSBfbxP | 19:19 |
| doc-saintly | @ RFleming | 19:20 |
| RFleming | doc-saintly, gimme a few | 19:25 |
| doc-saintly | No rush :) I just know I don't often check windows unless I'm pinged | 19:26 |
| RFleming | doc-saintly, are you using wireless or wired? | 19:38 |
| doc-saintly | wireless | 19:40 |
| doc-saintly | I've started looking into that, I'm noticing that my signal health is all over the place :( | 19:40 |
| RFleming | try with wired. | 19:47 |
| RFleming | I somehow think it's the wireless | 19:47 |
| RFleming | I'm trying to remember if there was a realtek firmware that needed to be installed | 19:47 |
| kupo_ | so many updates lately. LTS on the way very soon? | 19:48 |
| bekks | kupo_: Yes. | 19:50 |
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| Infinite_anon | hi | 22:08 |
| Infinite_anon | I have a problem with my xubuntu. Is this the right place to come for help? | 22:09 |
| juanmontoya | Infinite_anon: sure, if one of us does not know the answer perhaps someone else does | 22:10 |
| Infinite_anon | So i have this problem since i started playing with awesome wm. Everytime after the reboot I can't login on my account, i can only login on guest or root and the only way to repair this temporary i need to delete .Xauthority file to login. I don't if it's awesome's fault or is it something else | 22:12 |
| knome | Infinite_anon, can you confirm it happens without awesome as well? | 22:12 |
| juanmontoya | (I'd delete all files that start with a . but that's like putting a nuke on your settings) | 22:13 |
| Infinite_anon | probably too because after i deleted awesome and installed some else wm it did it as well | 22:13 |
| knome | Infinite_anon, if you have enabled the root account, that might be a cause for that problem as well. | 22:14 |
| Infinite_anon | and i don't use this third-party wms as default i started them by startx in terminal | 22:15 |
| Infinite_anon | i didn't enable root. i think so at least | 22:17 |
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