[06:09] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn and others
[06:09] <nlsthzn> o/
[08:04] <inetpro> good morning Kilos, nlsthzn and everyone else
[08:04] <Kilos> hiya inetpro 
[08:05] <inetpro> did you sleep well Kilos?
[08:05] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:05] <Kilos> ya kinda ty and you?
[08:05] <Kilos> why you ask that
[08:06] <inetpro> because I want to know
[08:06] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:06] <inetpro> checking up on you
[08:06] <Kilos> aha
[08:06] <Kilos> are you well sir?
[08:06] <inetpro> :-)
[08:07] <inetpro> how's the sheep doing?
[08:07] <Kilos> good ty
[08:07] <Kilos> hows your chicken farming going?
[08:08]  * inetpro wbbl
[08:08] <inetpro> gotta go, sorry
[08:08] <Kilos> np
[09:48] <Kilos> hi Golynx_ 
[09:48] <Kilos> dragging tail today
[09:49] <Kilos> hi Tonberry Rynomster 
[09:49] <Kilos> Maaz, hello
[09:49]  * Maaz waves to Kilos
[09:53] <Golynx_> hi Kilos
[09:54] <Golynx_> its that nasty password popup i wana avoid lol
[09:54] <Kilos> ubuntu wants password all the time
[09:54] <Kilos> which one is hassling you
[09:56] <Golynx_> the freenode one
[09:56] <Kilos> you set it in your client
[09:56] <Kilos> oh you on opera?
[09:57] <Golynx_> i know it works, but i got other nicks too on freenode
[09:57] <Kilos> you using opera or an irc client
[09:58] <Golynx_> yeah
[09:58] <Kilos> with a client you enter passwords in the setup and it works on all freenode channels
[09:59] <Kilos> and you can group all your nicks 
[10:00] <Golynx_> i dunno mine lists seperate freenode instances but force same passwords for all
[10:00] <Golynx_> maybe a bug
[10:00] <Kilos> just try hexchat so you can do the setup
[10:00] <Kilos> its in the repos
[10:01] <Kilos> you still doing everything on one workspace?
[10:07] <Golynx_> no i want it in opera
[10:07] <Golynx_> i will download again and see if it fixes it
[10:07] <Kilos> just the setup so it reconises you everytime
[10:08] <Golynx_> yeah i'm always on one workspace 
[10:08] <Kilos> recognises
[10:08] <Golynx_> i already do that, but not working for my other accounts
[10:09] <Kilos> ai!
[10:09] <Kilos> how do you use irc in opera?
[10:10] <Golynx_> ok will reinstall opera now
[10:10] <Golynx_> wbb
[10:11] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:22] <Golynx> finally all accounts works , You are now identified for Gotango.
[10:22] <Kilos> which freenode do you use in opera
[10:23] <Golynx> i think a reinstall is the same as slaping a tv that dont wana work right lol
[10:23] <Kilos> often reinstall adds a bit
[10:23] <Golynx> kilos what you mean ?
[10:23] <Golynx> there is only one freenode
[10:24] <Kilos> im trying to setup irc in opera and the freenodes are in uk and other places
[10:24] <Golynx> i usually choose the European servers
[10:24] <Kilos> freenode-europe north america oceania etc
[10:25] <Kilos> clients just use freenode
[10:25] <Golynx> by me it shows Freenode - Europe (1)
[10:26] <Kilos> oh it runs on an opera server
[10:26] <Golynx> but if you want any freenode server just choose one like roddenberry.freenode.net and others
[10:27] <Kilos> the clients choose for you and when one goes down you move to another automatically
[10:28] <Golynx> if opera cant connect with the default server it skips to other EU servers in the list like irc.eu.freenode.net, saberhagen.freenode.net, kornbluth.freenode.net, sterling.freenode.net, adams.freenode.net, tolkien.freenode.net, calvino.freenode.net, leguin.freenode.net, burroughs.freenode.net
[10:28] <Golynx> ya
[10:29] <Kilos> na i dont want to use their server
[10:30] <Golynx> lol its not opera its just a irc client inside opera
[10:30] <Kilos> too much schlep to setup. 
[10:30] <Golynx> if you want to use the opera irc then you can choose that besides freenode and dalnet 
[10:31] <Kilos> installed client much better
[10:31] <Golynx> sure different strokes for different folks :)
[10:32] <Kilos> windows syndrome
[10:32] <Kilos> everything is on one desktop so try get as much as possible to work with one app
[10:33] <Golynx> windows also got workspaces
[10:33] <Golynx> i dont see a real use for them though
[10:34] <Kilos> ive only ever seen the one desktop on windows
[10:34] <Kilos> and everything minimised there
[10:35] <Golynx> mine had a new desktop chooser at the taskbar. Dunno if the previous owner of the lappy installed it.
[10:36] <Kilos> ah
[10:38] <Golynx> i just like seeing what i'm working on infront of me. I could easily forget something important thats on another workspace
[10:38] <Kilos> oh dont things flash to get your attention
[10:38] <Golynx> so i just list all my windows in the taskbar below, and can see what i'm working on and what programs are using them
[10:39] <Kilos> thats also why i use sound alerts
[10:39] <Kilos> doesnt xubuntu have a workspace switcher?
[10:39] <Golynx> alerts are for programs like Irc clients though
[10:39] <Golynx> yeah i removed it :)
[10:40] <Kilos> the different ones should light up when something is activated there
[10:40] <Kilos> ai!
[10:41] <Golynx> hmm, if i got a browser opened in one workspace and text editor in the other. When will i get alerted ?
[10:42] <Kilos> when something happens there
[10:42] <Golynx> i dont understand what you mean by alerts Kilos
[10:42] <Kilos> you also can get small text popups to show incoming messages etc
[10:42] <Kilos> sound
[10:42] <Kilos> um
[10:42] <Kilos> bell.ogg
[10:43] <Kilos> you can set them in irc clients to bleep when your nick is mentioned or with all channel messages etc
[10:43] <Golynx> most of what i do dont dont have events that fire off at set intervals or dynamically informing of something that happened by way of an alert.
[10:44] <Golynx> most of what i do is static. 
[10:44] <Kilos> so what tells you someone has used your nick here
[10:44] <Kilos> or you have a new email
[10:44] <Golynx> a workspace i dont get the point , unless you got 50 programs and windows open
[10:44] <Kilos> or another im client needs attention
[10:46] <Golynx> i register the nicks i use in irc, np there 
[10:47] <Kilos> oh dont you chat on mxit or aim or gtalk etc
[10:47] <Golynx> i usually manually check my mail , but nothing important enough from where i am now to check so often.
[10:48] <Golynx> yeah pidgin and other chat clients are opened too
[10:49] <Kilos> i have pidgin on its own workspace and evolution mail client on one and hexchat on one and can do other stuff on the other 6
[10:49] <Kilos> hehe
[10:50] <Golynx> good for you :)
[10:50] <Kilos> its easier for me
[10:53] <Golynx> maybe someday when i got too much stuff opened i will do the workspace thing, but now just the one is fine for me
[10:53] <Kilos> hehe
[10:53] <Kilos> horses for courses
[10:54] <Kilos> but why ride a carthorse if you can ride an arab
[10:55] <Golynx> lol
[11:19] <Rynomster> Hi Kilos
[11:19] <Rynomster> was out
[11:19] <Kilos> np
[16:45] <Trixar_za> So... I figure out the problem with the new database
[16:45] <Trixar_za> No default vendor/product ID given. Abort
[16:46] <Kilos> on what?
[16:46] <Trixar_za> Dumbass programmer of usb_modeswitch
[16:46] <Kilos> make it force a way in
[16:46] <Kilos> you should join their team Trixar_za and point out the errors
[16:48] <Trixar_za> I'm thinking of one
[16:48] <Trixar_za> If I can introduce the default vendor and product id manually, I can probably make it work with just the binary without having to drag tcl with the damn script
[16:51] <Kilos> good
[16:51] <Trixar_za> Still a pain though
[16:51] <Kilos> work it out and then enter it as a debian package
[16:52] <Kilos> there was a way to do that but i had the info about 10 installs back
[16:53] <Kilos> http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/02/how-to-prepare-a-compiled-application-for-ubuntu-software-center/
[16:55] <Trixar_za> brb
[17:00] <Trixar_za> It works as long as you do it as root
[17:00] <Kilos> oh i had to run the new one here as root as well
[17:01] <Kilos> the desktop shortcut didnt work
[17:01] <Kilos> but modeswitch is a root thing isnt it
[17:11] <Trixar_za> Yeah
[17:11] <Trixar_za> I think maybe the yad addition causes the failure to run gksu
[17:11] <Trixar_za> so I just removed that code again
[17:25] <captine> evening all
[17:25] <Kilos> hi captine 
[18:22]  * Trixar_za mumbles
[18:23] <Trixar_za> So I made it able to switch the device
[18:23] <Trixar_za> ... but for some reason it can't find the interface now
[18:23] <Kilos> eish
[18:34] <Trixar_za> Interesting
[18:34] <Trixar_za> Works with the pre-libusb-1.x version
[18:45] <Kilos> thse modem are terrible things
[18:47] <Trixar_za> More usb_modeswitch is
[18:47] <Trixar_za> trying it with the last good db and the latest usb_modeswitch binary
[18:47] <Trixar_za> brb
[18:47] <Kilos> ok
[18:47] <Kilos> good luck
[19:32] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight