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lordievader | Good morning. | 08:45 |
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kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333360 | 11:40 |
ubottu | KDE bug 333360 in muon "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde crashed when triggering mirror selection and clicking ok quickly" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 11:41 |
ovidiu-florin | apachelogger: I guess we won't | 11:57 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell jose I've requeste al lthe files that give the current kubuntu website | 11:58 |
ovidiu-florin | all I received were a bunch of pictures? | 11:58 |
ovidiu-florin | sorry, no "?" | 11:58 |
ovidiu-florin | I can't do the migration like this | 11:59 |
ovidiu-florin | are the canonical sysadmins simply dumb? | 11:59 |
ovidiu-florin | I asked for all that files | 11:59 |
ovidiu-florin | what does all mean to them? | 11:59 |
ovidiu-florin | pictures? | 11:59 |
ovidiu-florin | jose: I'm very upset on this matter, can you please help me solve this? | 12:17 |
BluesKaj | "Morning all | 13:29 |
jose | ovidiu-florin: you requested a DB dump and I requested the files. The DB dump has been sent to you, and all the files have been put on a tarball and uploaded to my home folder in docs.kubuntu.org | 13:39 |
jose | ovidiu-florin: if you have trouble locating them, create a folder with 775 access and I'll move them over there | 13:39 |
jose | (well, not move, copy) | 13:39 |
jose | sorry I didn't answer immediately, but I was asleep | 13:40 |
jose | hello, BluesKaj :) how's it going? | 13:46 |
jose | Riddell: I'll try to work out the problem, but I'm not pretty sure of what ovidiu exactly wants | 13:46 |
BluesKaj | Hi jose | 13:47 |
BluesKaj | fine here and you? | 13:47 |
jose | I'm good, just woken up and looks like it's going to be a good day :) | 13:53 |
kdeuser56 | anyone familiar with kernel compiling? :-( | 14:07 |
ovidiu-florin | jose: I have access to your home folder on that server | 14:30 |
ovidiu-florin | jose: please open that archive and look in it | 14:30 |
ovidiu-florin | there are only pictures in there | 14:30 |
jose | ovidiu-florin: those are *all* the files that were on the instance, what kind of files were you expecting? | 14:30 |
ovidiu-florin | php files | 14:31 |
ovidiu-florin | not pictures | 14:31 |
ovidiu-florin | the drupal instance | 14:31 |
jose | you mean, the contents of each page? | 14:31 |
ovidiu-florin | no, that's in the DB | 14:31 |
ovidiu-florin | I mean the Drupal instance | 14:31 |
jose | may I ask why you need that? | 14:32 |
ovidiu-florin | to migrate the site | 14:32 |
jose | we *could* technically get it, but it would have to go through a lot of security checks, and I really find it unpractical to do it | 14:32 |
jose | can't you download drupal and deploy it and link to the DB you have | 14:32 |
jose | also, I thought we were moving to Wordpress | 14:33 |
ovidiu-florin | if we could | 14:33 |
ovidiu-florin | in order to migrate I need access to eighter that drupal instance | 14:33 |
ovidiu-florin | or to a copy of it | 14:33 |
ovidiu-florin | I went for the copy ption | 14:33 |
ovidiu-florin | opion | 14:33 |
ovidiu-florin | option* | 14:34 |
jose | ovidiu-florin: is there a chance we can have a google+ hangout to discuss it? | 14:34 |
ovidiu-florin | The only security problem would be the DB connection details | 14:34 |
ovidiu-florin | jose: now? | 14:34 |
jose | yes, it'd be easier for me | 14:34 |
ovidiu-florin | sure | 14:34 |
jose | (if you want, of course) | 14:34 |
ovidiu-florin | jose: https://plus.google.com/+OvidiuFlorinBogdan/posts | 14:35 |
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shadeslayer | kdeuser56: hi | 16:29 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: that bug is invalid fwiw :P | 16:29 |
shadeslayer | it should be filed in launchpad | 16:29 |
shadeslayer | against software-properties | 16:29 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: hi, I wanted to do so, but Scott recommended to file it on kde-bugs :-( | 16:30 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+filebug | 16:30 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: could you answer me a little question? | 16:32 |
shadeslayer | sure | 16:32 |
shadeslayer | I also might have a patch for that | 16:33 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: is https://github.com/torvalds/linux what will become 3.15? | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | looks quite alot like the sip destroy on exit bug | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: dunno, I'd hazard a guess at yes | 16:33 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: why can't gdb handle the sip stuff? | 16:34 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: I do not know what debug symbols to install ... I wrote a script to install all dbgsym for every installed package and it still prints ?? ... very strange | 16:35 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1307170 | 16:38 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1307170 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde crashed when triggering mirror selection and clicking ok quickly" [Undecided,New] | 16:38 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: my script revealed a bunch of intersting packaging problems: | 16:39 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: marble-plugins-dbgsym installs marble-dbg which installs marble | 16:39 |
shadeslayer | I am not informed enough on sip stuff :) | 16:41 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: and I don't see a problem marble-dbg installing marble | 16:41 |
shadeslayer | I think it's a recommends, that you could turn off | 16:41 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: no I do not think it's a recommend, because if I uninstall marble marble-dbg will also be removed | 16:42 |
shadeslayer | I don't see how the plugins-dbg package will be useful without marble | 16:42 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: the situation is the following: by default we do not have marble installed, but marble-plugins | 16:43 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: now I want to install the -dbgsym for that ... I am not interested in installing marble | 16:44 |
shadeslayer | bbiab, meeting time | 16:45 |
kdeuser56 | okay, can we continue, when you are back? | 16:45 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: http://paste.kde.org/pthdgy7os | 16:51 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: can you try that patch to software-properties-kde | 16:51 |
shadeslayer | and see if you can reproduce the crash | 16:51 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: meeting time over? yeah wait I'll reboot in a minute | 16:52 |
shadeslayer | not reall | 16:52 |
shadeslayer | multitasking :) | 16:52 |
shadeslayer | *really | 16:53 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: can we talk about my package questions later? | 16:53 |
shadeslayer | sure | 16:53 |
kdeuser56 | thanks | 16:53 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: could you relink ^^ stupid me | 17:00 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: the patch | 17:02 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: http://paste.kde.org/pthdgy7os | 17:07 |
soee_ | there is small issue with updates notification, if we run muon and do Check updates and some are found - we have notification. Than if we apply them and it is finished second notification show sup (with info what we have updates) | 17:08 |
shadeslayer | soee_: known issue | 17:09 |
shadeslayer | I'll have a looky with apol today | 17:09 |
soee_ | shadeslayer: ok :) | 17:09 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: after applying your patch when going to "configure software sources" muon only updates software sources and return to normal view ... | 17:27 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: it seems "configure software sources" turned to a tigger for "apt-get update" | 17:27 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: had a similar issue after upgrading last time though ... | 17:27 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: i have rebooted but the behavior does not change :-( | 17:28 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: what i did: apt-get source software-properties-kde then apt-get build-dep software-properties-kde then applied your patch change into the folder software-properties-kde<version number> and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b | 17:31 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: yeah, should work I guess | 17:35 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: but directly modifying /usr/bin/software-properties-kde should work too, right? | 17:36 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: directly reverting your patch in /usr/bin/software-properties-kde makes muon work again | 17:39 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: with your patch i get the following error when starting muon from command line: | 17:40 |
kdeuser56 | File "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde", line 55 | 17:40 |
kdeuser56 | _ = gettext.gettext | 17:40 |
kdeuser56 | ^ | 17:40 |
kdeuser56 | IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level | 17:40 |
shadeslayer | hm | 17:41 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: please ping me when you have suggestions, otherwise I wont notice it | 17:43 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: right, thinking | 17:43 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: it works for me here | 17:44 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: on trusty fully updated? | 17:44 |
shadeslayer | yep | 17:44 |
kdeuser56 | wtf? | 17:44 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: have you restarted muon? | 17:45 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: and when restarting start from another terminal | 17:45 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: yep | 17:45 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: can you pastebin /usr/bin/software-properties-kde | 17:46 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/p5pmhwmw8 | 17:48 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: try removing the except and try lines | 17:49 |
shadeslayer | as well as the 'pass' line | 17:49 |
shadeslayer | and re indent sip.setdestroyonexit | 17:49 |
shadeslayer | make sure you're using spaces | 17:49 |
shadeslayer | not tabs | 17:49 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: so only sip.setdestroyonexit(False) should be left of your patch? | 17:51 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: yes, and the import sip line | 17:52 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: works now ... wait trying to get it crashing | 17:53 |
shadeslayer | awesome | 17:53 |
shadeslayer | soee_: oh, do you still have the notification icon? | 17:55 |
* shadeslayer needs to trigger a package update somehow | 17:55 | |
shadeslayer | soee_: poke poke | 17:57 |
shadeslayer | nvm | 18:01 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: I have a fix for muon | 18:20 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: can you approve if I upload? | 18:20 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: could not trigger a crash until now | 18:22 |
shadeslayer | hm | 18:22 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: please keep using it | 18:22 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: could however trigger crashes when removing your patch | 18:22 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: oh | 18:22 |
shadeslayer | another pyqt issue then :/ | 18:22 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: I'll push the fix to software-properties-kde | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | thanks for reporting | 18:23 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: why hm? i was not sucessful triggering a crash | 18:23 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: your patch works no crashes, what issues are you talking about? | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: that's a good thing, but I'd rather not push such intrusive patches the week before release | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | intrusive because it's a workaround for the actual issue | 18:24 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: I can't however reliably reproduce the issue ... | 18:24 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: it happens rather spontaneously, sometimes the first time you try sometimes the 5th time | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | *nod* | 18:25 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: uploaded | 18:27 |
soee_ | shadeslayer: in the systray ? | 18:28 |
shadeslayer | soee_: yeah, nvm, I have a patch | 18:28 |
soee_ | ok, tha icon is here for me | 18:28 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/172744572/muon_2.2.0-0ubuntu2_2.2.0-0ubuntu3.diff.gz | 18:29 |
shadeslayer | soee_: ^^ | 18:29 |
soee_ | shadeslayer: is it already in updates ? | 18:30 |
shadeslayer | soee_: no | 18:30 |
shadeslayer | waiting for approval | 18:30 |
soee_ | ok | 18:30 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: plasma-dataengines-addons-dbgsym installs "plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widget-lancelot kde-wallpapers" | 18:34 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: it obviously install unnecessary stuff I do not need for debugging | 18:35 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: kde-wallpapers? why? removing them will also remove the debug symbols | 18:35 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: dbgsym are autogenerated right? where are the scripts? I want to have a look at them | 18:38 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/software-properties/fix-for-1307170/+merge/215580 | 18:45 |
shadeslayer | plz comment | 18:45 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: that's correct | 18:46 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: that is the version I could not get working ... | 18:47 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: yeah, it works fine for me here, not sure why it wouldn't work on your system, but that code is required | 18:47 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: then I will confirm it works in the hope that it will do ;-) | 18:47 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: as for your dbg question, plasma-wallpapers-addons depends on kde-wallpapers | 18:48 |
shadeslayer | and the dbg package depends on the plasma-wallpapers-addons | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | and probably the dbgsym package depends on the dbg package | 18:49 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: no it installs exactly plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widget-lancelot and kde-wallpapers | 18:50 |
shadeslayer | read my reply again | 18:51 |
shadeslayer | there's a dep chain | 18:51 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: I do not want the wallpaper addons either | 18:51 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: too late for trusty I'm afraid | 18:51 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: no problem I can manually edit the dpkg status file so that it works ;-), but could you solve the issue? | 18:52 |
shadeslayer | heh | 18:52 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: do you agree that is a packaging bug? | 18:53 |
shadeslayer | well | 18:53 |
shadeslayer | I'd say that depends might be too strict | 18:53 |
shadeslayer | yes | 18:53 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: please report a bug in Debian | 18:53 |
shadeslayer | http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/kde-sc/kdeplasma-addons.git;a=blob;f=debian/control;h=84233e03c228aa990655ed6993886128b853c48f;hb=HEAD#l229 | 18:53 |
shadeslayer | ^^ same issue in Debian | 18:54 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: I thought dbgsym packages are specific to ubuntu? | 18:54 |
shadeslayer | I don't think this is a dbgsym package issue | 18:54 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: what does apt-cache depends plasma-dataengines-addons-dbgsym say | 18:55 |
shadeslayer | my (calculated) guess is that it depends on kdeplasma-addons-dbg | 18:55 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: your guess is right ^^ | 18:56 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: right, so it's dragged in by kdeplasma-addons-dbg and the dbgsym package probably doesn't directly depend on kde-wallpapers | 18:56 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: why does the dbgsym depend on kdeplasma-addons-dbg anyway? I thought they could exist independent from -dbg? | 18:59 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: they can be co installed, but not sure if you can uncouple them | 19:00 |
shadeslayer | because dh_shlibs adds the deps IIRC | 19:00 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: in the wiki says dbg and dbgsym of the same package should conflict ... | 19:00 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: does not happen for all packages however ... muon-dbg and muon-dbgsym are coinstallable | 19:02 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: somehow the whole -dbgsym / -dbg situation seems really messy | 19:02 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: normally they should both include similar files and should conflict ... | 19:02 |
shadeslayer | it is weird | 19:04 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: all that problems with unnecessary stuff being pulled in is true for dbgsym packages that want to install dbg packages | 19:04 |
shadeslayer | you'll need someone who knows more about the dbgsym packages, try #ubuntu-devel | 19:04 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: I will consult with pitti maybe in the next days, he should know that, shoudln't he? | 19:05 |
shadeslayer | dunno | 19:05 |
shadeslayer | I'd ask generally in #ubuntu-devel | 19:05 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: yeah I will do that ... first try would be to find out why some dbgsym install dbg stuff ... | 19:05 |
apol | shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333291 | 19:06 |
ubottu | KDE bug 333291 in notifier "Notifier claims updates are available when they are not." [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] | 19:06 |
kdeuser56 | shadeslayer: thanks for your enormous help! kudos! | 19:06 |
shadeslayer | kdeuser56: np | 19:42 |
Quintasan | upgrading to trusty on my machine | 20:19 |
Quintasan | the virtual machines upgraded fine so it should work here too | 20:20 |
Quintasan | Upgrade successful | 21:17 |
soee__ | :D | 21:26 |
shadeslayer | mmm | 21:39 |
shadeslayer | more kamoso issues kamoso(11767)/KIPI (loading) KIPI::PluginLoader::init: Plugin "YouTube" has a SO version ( 0 ) which is different than libkipi ABI version ( 11 ). Refusing to load. | 21:39 |
vgezer | I just checked the daily iso, but it seems in the second step Turkish characters are seen strange: http://i.imgur.com/d4Kr6di.png | 21:56 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: Thanks for the quick fix on Muon. | 21:59 |
vgezer | can someone reproduce it in another languages? | 22:01 |
Riddell | ook | 22:04 |
Riddell | hi all, what's the craic? | 22:06 |
apachelogger | what's a craic? | 22:06 |
Riddell | yo dudes, what's going down? | 22:06 |
Riddell | that easier to understand? | 22:06 |
apachelogger | reckon | 22:07 |
apachelogger | not that it sounds any better though | 22:07 |
apachelogger | I hear stuff was broken in the muonesque department again | 22:07 |
apachelogger | also I have a mail in my inbox titled "will pam-kwallet work in debian?" | 22:08 |
apachelogger | Riddell: how was the boat thing of yours? | 22:08 |
ScottK | apachelogger: shadeslayer did an upload he claims fixed the muon issue. Still have software-properties stuffs though. | 22:09 |
Riddell | boat thing was great, got a nice certificate for open canadians | 22:10 |
soee__ | guys do you have strange behaviour with batery indicator/applet ? | 22:12 |
apachelogger | I have no idea what it means but sounds neat ^^ | 22:12 |
soee__ | this is what i have: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/14/batery_monitor.jpeg :D | 22:14 |
apachelogger | this is the new multi dimensional text mode | 22:16 |
apachelogger | it's made for the wicked mind | 22:17 |
apachelogger | soee__: bugs.kde.org | 22:17 |
apachelogger | plasma apparently tries to textwrap because the translation is too long | 22:17 |
apachelogger | alas, it does not adjust the actual element size, so qt just mushes the text together I reckon | 22:17 |
soee__ | apachelogger: there are 2 separate labels i think | 22:17 |
apachelogger | ah, not that then | 22:18 |
apachelogger | still a plasma bug | 22:18 |
soee__ | Battery monitor and Screen brightness | 22:18 |
apachelogger | perhaps one of the two uses too big an icon | 22:18 |
apachelogger | I see there is a screen that appears to be too big | 22:18 |
apachelogger | looks 32x32, while it should be 16x16, so maybe it's a plasmoid bug | 22:18 |
apachelogger | still wouldn't explain why two labels are on top of one another though | 22:19 |
apachelogger | plasma layouting works in mysterious ways some times | 22:19 |
soee__ | if i turn off battery minitor all thi sis gone | 22:19 |
apachelogger | soee__: well, file a bug | 22:19 |
apachelogger | I can do bug guessing all day :P | 22:19 |
soee__ | ok will test a bit more and report than | 22:20 |
vgezer | apachelogger Riddell what do you think we should do about this? | 22:20 |
vgezer | > I just checked the daily iso, but it seems in the second step Turkish characters are seen strange: http://i.imgur.com/d4Kr6di.png | 22:20 |
apachelogger | it could also be that they are making love to each other | 22:20 |
apachelogger | who knows | 22:20 |
apachelogger | kinky plasmoids, that's totally a thing | 22:21 |
apachelogger | vgezer: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 22:21 |
apachelogger | it could be a) ubiquity-kde somehow turning the string into ISO encoding when it should be utf8 b) ubiquity-common doing that c) ubiquity-common reading the string in a bogus way d) the string somehow having been translated such that it either is incorrectly encoded or broken to begin with | 22:23 |
apachelogger | something wrong with the translation seems most likely though, since it is contained to two lines | 22:23 |
apachelogger | (random note: ubiquity is not translated into klingon :'<) | 22:24 |
vgezer | i checked the strings on launchpad, but it seems it is translated correctly and hasn't changed since 2011 | 22:25 |
apachelogger | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/tr/193/+translate | 22:25 |
vgezer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1299881 | 22:25 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1299881 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Strange characters in different locale" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:25 |
vgezer | yes, i resent the same string again. | 22:26 |
vgezer | aah this one | 22:26 |
apachelogger | maybe check the po file in the source | 22:26 |
apachelogger | perhaps the export is broken | 22:27 |
vgezer | but this is also new, though. | 22:27 |
apachelogger | vgezer: well, not that new | 22:27 |
vgezer | do you think sending this again can solve it, maybe? | 22:27 |
apachelogger | no | 22:28 |
vgezer | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubiquity/trusty/files | 22:31 |
apachelogger | well, I do not have the slightest idea where exactly the pos are for that thing | 22:31 |
vgezer | it redirects me here and there are only three strings in po file :) | 22:31 |
vgezer | ahh ok, thanks :) | 22:31 |
apachelogger | it may be in a language pack | 22:31 |
apachelogger | who knows | 22:31 |
apachelogger | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubiquity/trusty/view/head:/debian/real-po/tr.po | 22:32 |
vgezer | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubiquity/trusty/view/head:/debian/real-po/tr.po#L1412 | 22:32 |
vgezer | haha, at the same time :) | 22:32 |
vgezer | it seems the string is exported correct it seems | 22:33 |
apachelogger | yes | 22:33 |
apachelogger | so one can assume it is also compiled correctly | 22:33 |
apachelogger | which leaves the possible problems in ubiquity's code | 22:33 |
apachelogger | though I fail to see how the best results line woudl be any differently processed from the other ones | 22:34 |
apachelogger | the header I could imagine the s/RELEASE/Kubuntu/ thing perhaps having an encoding problem, but the other line... makes no sense at all | 22:35 |
apachelogger | anyway | 22:35 |
* apachelogger is off to bed | 22:35 | |
vgezer | i see. i reopened the issue | 22:36 |
vgezer | thanks a lot. let's see. but its too bad that will happen for LTS :/ | 22:36 |
vgezer | because it was ok for 13.10 | 22:36 |
vgezer | good night. | 22:39 |
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