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lordievaderGood morning.08:45
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kdeuser56shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33336011:40
ubottuKDE bug 333360 in muon "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde crashed when triggering mirror selection and clicking ok quickly" [Crash,Unconfirmed]11:41
ovidiu-florinapachelogger: I guess we won't11:57
ovidiu-florinRiddell jose I've requeste al lthe files that give the current kubuntu website11:58
ovidiu-florinall I received were a bunch of pictures?11:58
ovidiu-florinsorry, no "?"11:58
ovidiu-florinI can't do the migration like this11:59
ovidiu-florinare the canonical sysadmins simply dumb?11:59
ovidiu-florinI asked for all that files11:59
ovidiu-florinwhat does all mean to them?11:59
ovidiu-florinpictures?11:59
ovidiu-florinjose: I'm very upset on this matter, can you please help me solve this?12:17
BluesKaj"Morning all13:29
joseovidiu-florin: you requested a DB dump and I requested the files. The DB dump has been sent to you, and all the files have been put on a tarball and uploaded to my home folder in docs.kubuntu.org13:39
joseovidiu-florin: if you have trouble locating them, create a folder with 775 access and I'll move them over there13:39
jose(well, not move, copy)13:39
josesorry I didn't answer immediately, but I was asleep13:40
josehello, BluesKaj :) how's it going?13:46
joseRiddell: I'll try to work out the problem, but I'm not pretty sure of what ovidiu exactly wants13:46
BluesKajHi  jose13:47
BluesKajfine here and you?13:47
joseI'm good, just woken up and looks like it's going to be a good day :)13:53
kdeuser56anyone familiar with kernel compiling? :-(14:07
ovidiu-florinjose: I have access to your home folder on that server14:30
ovidiu-florinjose: please open that archive and look in it14:30
ovidiu-florinthere are only pictures in there14:30
joseovidiu-florin: those are *all* the files that were on the instance, what kind of files were you expecting?14:30
ovidiu-florinphp files14:31
ovidiu-florinnot pictures14:31
ovidiu-florinthe drupal instance14:31
joseyou mean, the contents of each page?14:31
ovidiu-florinno, that's in the DB14:31
ovidiu-florinI mean the Drupal instance14:31
josemay I ask why you need that?14:32
ovidiu-florinto migrate the site 14:32
josewe *could* technically get it, but it would have to go through a lot of security checks, and I really find it unpractical to do it14:32
josecan't you download drupal and deploy it and link to the DB you have14:32
josealso, I thought we were moving to Wordpress14:33
ovidiu-florinif we could14:33
ovidiu-florinin order to migrate I need access to eighter that drupal instance14:33
ovidiu-florinor to a copy of it14:33
ovidiu-florinI went for the copy ption14:33
ovidiu-florinopion14:33
ovidiu-florinoption*14:34
joseovidiu-florin: is there a chance we can have a google+ hangout to discuss it?14:34
ovidiu-florinThe only security problem would be the DB connection details14:34
ovidiu-florinjose: now?14:34
joseyes, it'd be easier for me14:34
ovidiu-florinsure14:34
jose(if you want, of course)14:34
ovidiu-florinjose: https://plus.google.com/+OvidiuFlorinBogdan/posts14:35
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shadeslayerkdeuser56: hi16:29
shadeslayerkdeuser56: that bug is invalid fwiw :P16:29
shadeslayerit should be filed in launchpad16:29
shadeslayeragainst software-properties16:29
kdeuser56shadeslayer: hi, I wanted to do so, but Scott recommended to file it on kde-bugs :-(16:30
shadeslayerkdeuser56: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+filebug16:30
kdeuser56shadeslayer: could you answer me a little question?16:32
shadeslayersure16:32
shadeslayerI also might have a patch for that16:33
kdeuser56shadeslayer: is https://github.com/torvalds/linux what will become 3.15?16:33
shadeslayerlooks quite alot like the sip destroy on exit bug16:33
shadeslayerkdeuser56: dunno, I'd hazard a guess at yes16:33
kdeuser56shadeslayer: why can't gdb handle the  sip stuff?16:34
kdeuser56shadeslayer: I do not know what debug symbols to install ... I wrote a script to install all dbgsym for every installed package and it still prints ?? ... very strange16:35
kdeuser56shadeslayer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/130717016:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1307170 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde crashed when triggering mirror selection and clicking ok quickly" [Undecided,New]16:38
kdeuser56shadeslayer: my script revealed a bunch of intersting packaging problems: 16:39
kdeuser56shadeslayer: marble-plugins-dbgsym installs marble-dbg which installs marble 16:39
shadeslayerI am not informed enough on sip stuff :)16:41
shadeslayerkdeuser56: and I don't see a problem marble-dbg installing marble16:41
shadeslayerI think it's a recommends, that you could turn off16:41
kdeuser56shadeslayer: no I do not think it's a recommend, because if I uninstall marble marble-dbg will also be removed16:42
shadeslayerI don't see how the plugins-dbg package will be useful without marble16:42
kdeuser56shadeslayer: the situation is the following: by default we do not have marble installed, but marble-plugins16:43
kdeuser56shadeslayer: now I want to install the -dbgsym for that ... I am not interested in installing marble16:44
shadeslayerbbiab, meeting time16:45
kdeuser56okay, can we continue, when you are back?16:45
shadeslayerkdeuser56: http://paste.kde.org/pthdgy7os16:51
shadeslayerkdeuser56: can you try that patch to software-properties-kde16:51
shadeslayerand see if you can reproduce the crash16:51
kdeuser56shadeslayer: meeting time over? yeah wait I'll reboot in a minute16:52
shadeslayernot reall16:52
shadeslayermultitasking :)16:52
shadeslayer*really16:53
kdeuser56shadeslayer: can we talk about my package questions later?16:53
shadeslayersure16:53
kdeuser56thanks16:53
kdeuser56shadeslayer: could you relink ^^ stupid me17:00
kdeuser56shadeslayer: the patch17:02
shadeslayerkdeuser56: http://paste.kde.org/pthdgy7os17:07
soee_there is small issue with updates notification, if we run muon and do Check updates and some are found - we have notification. Than if we apply them and it is finished second notification show sup (with info what we have updates)17:08
shadeslayersoee_: known issue17:09
shadeslayerI'll have a looky with apol today17:09
soee_shadeslayer: ok :)17:09
kdeuser56shadeslayer: after applying your patch when going to "configure software sources" muon only updates software sources and return to normal view ...17:27
kdeuser56shadeslayer: it seems  "configure software sources" turned to a tigger for "apt-get update" 17:27
kdeuser56shadeslayer: had a similar issue after upgrading last time though ...17:27
kdeuser56shadeslayer: i have rebooted but the behavior does not change :-(17:28
kdeuser56shadeslayer: what i did: apt-get source software-properties-kde then apt-get build-dep software-properties-kde then applied your patch change into the folder software-properties-kde<version number> and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b17:31
shadeslayerkdeuser56: yeah, should work I guess17:35
kdeuser56shadeslayer: but directly modifying /usr/bin/software-properties-kde should work too, right?17:36
kdeuser56shadeslayer: directly reverting your patch in /usr/bin/software-properties-kde makes muon work again17:39
kdeuser56shadeslayer: with your patch i get the following error when starting muon from command line: 17:40
kdeuser56  File "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde", line 5517:40
kdeuser56    _ = gettext.gettext17:40
kdeuser56                      ^17:40
kdeuser56IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level17:40
shadeslayerhm17:41
kdeuser56shadeslayer: please ping me when you have suggestions, otherwise I wont notice it17:43
shadeslayerkdeuser56: right, thinking17:43
shadeslayerkdeuser56: it works for me here17:44
kdeuser56shadeslayer: on trusty fully updated?17:44
shadeslayeryep17:44
kdeuser56wtf?17:44
kdeuser56shadeslayer: have you restarted muon?17:45
kdeuser56shadeslayer: and when restarting start from another terminal17:45
shadeslayerkdeuser56: yep17:45
shadeslayerkdeuser56: can you pastebin /usr/bin/software-properties-kde17:46
kdeuser56shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/p5pmhwmw817:48
shadeslayerkdeuser56: try removing the except and try lines17:49
shadeslayeras well as the 'pass' line17:49
shadeslayerand re indent sip.setdestroyonexit17:49
shadeslayermake sure you're using spaces17:49
shadeslayernot tabs17:49
kdeuser56shadeslayer: so only sip.setdestroyonexit(False) should be left of your patch?17:51
shadeslayerkdeuser56: yes, and the import sip line17:52
kdeuser56shadeslayer: works now ... wait trying to get it crashing17:53
shadeslayerawesome17:53
shadeslayersoee_: oh, do you still have the notification icon?17:55
* shadeslayer needs to trigger a package update somehow17:55
shadeslayersoee_: poke poke17:57
shadeslayernvm18:01
shadeslayerScottK: I have a fix for muon18:20
shadeslayerScottK: can you approve if I upload?18:20
kdeuser56shadeslayer: could not trigger a crash until now18:22
shadeslayerhm18:22
shadeslayerkdeuser56: please keep using it18:22
kdeuser56shadeslayer: could however trigger crashes when removing your patch18:22
shadeslayerkdeuser56: oh18:22
shadeslayeranother pyqt issue then :/18:22
shadeslayerkdeuser56: I'll push the fix to software-properties-kde18:23
shadeslayerthanks for reporting18:23
kdeuser56shadeslayer: why hm? i was not sucessful triggering a crash18:23
kdeuser56shadeslayer: your patch works no crashes, what issues are you talking about?18:23
shadeslayerkdeuser56: that's a good thing, but I'd rather not push such intrusive patches the week before release18:24
shadeslayerintrusive because it's a workaround for the actual issue18:24
kdeuser56shadeslayer: I can't however reliably reproduce the issue ...18:24
kdeuser56shadeslayer: it happens rather spontaneously, sometimes the first time you try sometimes the 5th time18:24
shadeslayer*nod*18:25
shadeslayerScottK: uploaded18:27
soee_shadeslayer: in the systray ?18:28
shadeslayersoee_: yeah, nvm, I have a patch18:28
soee_ok, tha icon is here for me18:28
shadeslayerScottK: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/172744572/muon_2.2.0-0ubuntu2_2.2.0-0ubuntu3.diff.gz18:29
shadeslayersoee_: ^^18:29
soee_shadeslayer: is it already in updates ?18:30
shadeslayersoee_: no18:30
shadeslayerwaiting for approval18:30
soee_ok18:30
kdeuser56shadeslayer: plasma-dataengines-addons-dbgsym installs "plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widget-lancelot kde-wallpapers"18:34
kdeuser56shadeslayer: it obviously install unnecessary stuff I do not need for debugging18:35
kdeuser56shadeslayer: kde-wallpapers? why? removing them will also remove the debug symbols18:35
kdeuser56shadeslayer: dbgsym are autogenerated right? where are the scripts? I want to have a look at them18:38
shadeslayerkdeuser56: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/software-properties/fix-for-1307170/+merge/21558018:45
shadeslayerplz comment18:45
shadeslayerkdeuser56: that's correct18:46
kdeuser56shadeslayer: that is the version I could not get working ... 18:47
shadeslayerkdeuser56: yeah, it works fine for me here, not sure why it wouldn't work on your system, but that code is required18:47
kdeuser56shadeslayer: then I will confirm it works in the hope that it will do ;-)18:47
shadeslayerkdeuser56: as for your dbg question, plasma-wallpapers-addons depends on kde-wallpapers18:48
shadeslayerand the dbg package depends on the plasma-wallpapers-addons18:49
shadeslayerand probably the dbgsym package depends on the dbg package18:49
kdeuser56shadeslayer: no it installs exactly plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widget-lancelot and kde-wallpapers18:50
shadeslayerread my reply again18:51
shadeslayerthere's a dep chain18:51
kdeuser56shadeslayer: I do not want the wallpaper addons either 18:51
shadeslayerkdeuser56: too late for trusty I'm afraid18:51
kdeuser56shadeslayer: no problem I can manually edit the dpkg status file so that it works ;-), but could you solve the issue?18:52
shadeslayerheh18:52
kdeuser56shadeslayer: do you agree that is a packaging bug? 18:53
shadeslayerwell18:53
shadeslayerI'd say that depends might be too strict18:53
shadeslayeryes18:53
shadeslayerkdeuser56: please report a bug in Debian18:53
shadeslayerhttp://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/kde-sc/kdeplasma-addons.git;a=blob;f=debian/control;h=84233e03c228aa990655ed6993886128b853c48f;hb=HEAD#l22918:53
shadeslayer^^ same issue in Debian18:54
kdeuser56 shadeslayer: I thought dbgsym packages are specific to ubuntu?18:54
shadeslayerI don't think this is a dbgsym package issue18:54
shadeslayerkdeuser56: what does apt-cache depends plasma-dataengines-addons-dbgsym  say18:55
shadeslayermy (calculated) guess is that it depends on kdeplasma-addons-dbg18:55
kdeuser56shadeslayer: your guess is right ^^18:56
shadeslayerkdeuser56: right, so it's dragged in by kdeplasma-addons-dbg and the dbgsym package probably doesn't directly depend on kde-wallpapers18:56
kdeuser56shadeslayer: why does the dbgsym depend on kdeplasma-addons-dbg anyway? I thought they could exist independent from -dbg?18:59
shadeslayerkdeuser56: they can be co installed, but not sure if you can uncouple them19:00
shadeslayerbecause dh_shlibs adds the deps IIRC19:00
kdeuser56shadeslayer: in the wiki says dbg and dbgsym of the same package should conflict ...19:00
kdeuser56shadeslayer: does not happen for all packages however ... muon-dbg and muon-dbgsym are coinstallable19:02
kdeuser56shadeslayer: somehow the whole -dbgsym / -dbg situation seems really messy 19:02
kdeuser56shadeslayer: normally they should both include similar files and should conflict ... 19:02
shadeslayerit is weird19:04
kdeuser56shadeslayer: all that problems with unnecessary stuff being pulled in is true for dbgsym packages that want to install dbg packages19:04
shadeslayeryou'll need someone who knows more about the dbgsym packages, try #ubuntu-devel19:04
kdeuser56shadeslayer: I will consult with pitti maybe in the next days, he should know that, shoudln't he?19:05
shadeslayerdunno19:05
shadeslayerI'd ask generally in #ubuntu-devel19:05
kdeuser56shadeslayer: yeah I will do that ... first try would be to find out why some dbgsym install dbg stuff ...19:05
apolshadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33329119:06
ubottuKDE bug 333291 in notifier "Notifier claims updates are available when they are not." [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]19:06
kdeuser56shadeslayer: thanks for your enormous help! kudos!19:06
shadeslayerkdeuser56: np19:42
Quintasanupgrading to trusty on my machine20:19
Quintasanthe virtual machines upgraded fine so it should work here too20:20
QuintasanUpgrade successful21:17
soee__:D21:26
shadeslayermmm21:39
shadeslayermore kamoso issues kamoso(11767)/KIPI (loading) KIPI::PluginLoader::init: Plugin  "YouTube" has a SO version ( 0 ) which is different than libkipi ABI version ( 11 ).  Refusing to load.21:39
vgezerI just checked the daily iso, but it seems in the second step Turkish characters are seen strange: http://i.imgur.com/d4Kr6di.png21:56
ScottKshadeslayer: Thanks for the quick fix on Muon.21:59
vgezercan someone reproduce it in another languages?22:01
Riddellook22:04
Riddellhi all, what's the craic?22:06
apacheloggerwhat's a craic?22:06
Riddellyo dudes, what's going down?22:06
Riddellthat easier to understand?22:06
apacheloggerreckon22:07
apacheloggernot that it sounds any better though22:07
apacheloggerI hear stuff was broken in the muonesque department again22:07
apacheloggeralso I have a mail in my inbox titled "will pam-kwallet work in debian?"22:08
apacheloggerRiddell: how was the boat thing of yours?22:08
ScottKapachelogger: shadeslayer did an upload he claims fixed the muon issue.  Still have software-properties stuffs though.22:09
Riddellboat thing was great, got a nice certificate for open canadians22:10
soee__guys do you have strange behaviour with batery indicator/applet ?22:12
apacheloggerI have no idea what it means but sounds neat ^^22:12
soee__this is what i have: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/14/batery_monitor.jpeg :D22:14
apacheloggerthis is the new multi dimensional text mode22:16
apacheloggerit's made for the wicked mind22:17
apacheloggersoee__: bugs.kde.org22:17
apacheloggerplasma apparently tries to textwrap because the translation is too long22:17
apacheloggeralas, it does not adjust the actual element size, so qt just mushes the text together I reckon22:17
soee__apachelogger: there are 2 separate labels i think22:17
apacheloggerah, not that then22:18
apacheloggerstill a plasma bug22:18
soee__Battery monitor and Screen brightness22:18
apacheloggerperhaps one of the two uses too big an icon22:18
apacheloggerI see there is a screen that appears to be too big22:18
apacheloggerlooks 32x32, while it should be 16x16, so maybe it's a plasmoid bug22:18
apacheloggerstill wouldn't explain why two labels are on top of one another though22:19
apacheloggerplasma layouting works in mysterious ways some times22:19
soee__if i turn off battery minitor all thi sis gone22:19
apacheloggersoee__: well, file a bug22:19
apacheloggerI can do bug guessing all day :P22:19
soee__ok will test a bit more and report than22:20
vgezerapachelogger Riddell what do you think we should do about this?22:20
vgezer> I just checked the daily iso, but it seems in the second step Turkish characters are seen strange: http://i.imgur.com/d4Kr6di.png22:20
apacheloggerit could also be that they are making love to each other22:20
apacheloggerwho knows22:20
apacheloggerkinky plasmoids, that's totally a thing22:21
apacheloggervgezer: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu 22:21
apacheloggerit could be a) ubiquity-kde somehow turning the string into ISO encoding when it should be utf8 b) ubiquity-common doing that c) ubiquity-common reading the string in a bogus way d) the string somehow having been translated such that it either is incorrectly encoded or broken to begin with22:23
apacheloggersomething wrong with the translation seems most likely though, since it is contained to two lines22:23
apachelogger(random note: ubiquity is not translated into klingon :'<)22:24
vgezeri checked the strings on launchpad, but it seems it is translated correctly and hasn't changed since 201122:25
apacheloggerhttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/tr/193/+translate22:25
vgezerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/129988122:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1299881 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Strange characters in different locale" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:25
vgezeryes, i resent the same string again.22:26
vgezeraah this one22:26
apacheloggermaybe check the po file in the source22:26
apacheloggerperhaps the export is broken22:27
vgezerbut this is also new, though.22:27
apacheloggervgezer: well, not that new22:27
vgezerdo you think sending this again can solve it, maybe?22:27
apacheloggerno22:28
vgezerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubiquity/trusty/files22:31
apacheloggerwell, I do not have the slightest idea where exactly the pos are for that thing22:31
vgezerit redirects me here and there are only three strings in po file :)22:31
vgezerahh ok, thanks :)22:31
apacheloggerit may be in a language pack22:31
apacheloggerwho knows22:31
apacheloggerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubiquity/trusty/view/head:/debian/real-po/tr.po22:32
vgezerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubiquity/trusty/view/head:/debian/real-po/tr.po#L141222:32
vgezerhaha, at the same time :)22:32
vgezerit seems the string is exported correct it seems22:33
apacheloggeryes22:33
apacheloggerso one can assume it is also compiled correctly22:33
apacheloggerwhich leaves the possible problems in ubiquity's code22:33
apacheloggerthough I fail to see how the best results line woudl be any differently processed from the other ones22:34
apacheloggerthe header I could imagine the s/RELEASE/Kubuntu/ thing perhaps having an encoding problem, but the other line... makes no sense at all22:35
apacheloggeranyway22:35
* apachelogger is off to bed22:35
vgezeri see. i reopened the issue22:36
vgezerthanks a lot. let's see. but its too bad that will happen for LTS :/22:36
vgezerbecause it was ok for 13.1022:36
vgezergood night.22:39

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