=== frecel is now known as 1JTAACAIV === jackyalcine is now known as jacky === jacky is now known as Guest68167 === ikonia is now known as Guest42984 === fejjerai is now known as Guest62618 === ryanakca is now known as Guest28637 === Mamarok is now known as Guest6286 === jussi is now known as Guest58632 === tsimpson is now known as Guest89269 === Guest89269 is now known as tsimpson === Guest42984 is now known as ikonia === Guest68167 is now known as jacky [08:45] Good morning. === Guest6286 is now known as Mamarok [11:40] shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333360 [11:41] KDE bug 333360 in muon "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde crashed when triggering mirror selection and clicking ok quickly" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [11:57] apachelogger: I guess we won't [11:58] Riddell jose I've requeste al lthe files that give the current kubuntu website [11:58] all I received were a bunch of pictures? [11:58] sorry, no "?" [11:59] I can't do the migration like this [11:59] are the canonical sysadmins simply dumb? [11:59] I asked for all that files [11:59] what does all mean to them? [11:59] pictures? [12:17] jose: I'm very upset on this matter, can you please help me solve this? [13:29] "Morning all [13:39] ovidiu-florin: you requested a DB dump and I requested the files. The DB dump has been sent to you, and all the files have been put on a tarball and uploaded to my home folder in docs.kubuntu.org [13:39] ovidiu-florin: if you have trouble locating them, create a folder with 775 access and I'll move them over there [13:39] (well, not move, copy) [13:40] sorry I didn't answer immediately, but I was asleep [13:46] hello, BluesKaj :) how's it going? [13:46] Riddell: I'll try to work out the problem, but I'm not pretty sure of what ovidiu exactly wants [13:47] Hi jose [13:47] fine here and you? [13:53] I'm good, just woken up and looks like it's going to be a good day :) [14:07] anyone familiar with kernel compiling? :-( [14:30] jose: I have access to your home folder on that server [14:30] jose: please open that archive and look in it [14:30] there are only pictures in there [14:30] ovidiu-florin: those are *all* the files that were on the instance, what kind of files were you expecting? [14:31] php files [14:31] not pictures [14:31] the drupal instance [14:31] you mean, the contents of each page? [14:31] no, that's in the DB [14:31] I mean the Drupal instance [14:32] may I ask why you need that? [14:32] to migrate the site [14:32] we *could* technically get it, but it would have to go through a lot of security checks, and I really find it unpractical to do it [14:32] can't you download drupal and deploy it and link to the DB you have [14:33] also, I thought we were moving to Wordpress [14:33] if we could [14:33] in order to migrate I need access to eighter that drupal instance [14:33] or to a copy of it [14:33] I went for the copy ption [14:33] opion [14:34] option* [14:34] ovidiu-florin: is there a chance we can have a google+ hangout to discuss it? [14:34] The only security problem would be the DB connection details [14:34] jose: now? [14:34] yes, it'd be easier for me [14:34] sure [14:34] (if you want, of course) [14:35] jose: https://plus.google.com/+OvidiuFlorinBogdan/posts === Guest58632 is now known as jussi [16:29] kdeuser56: hi [16:29] kdeuser56: that bug is invalid fwiw :P [16:29] it should be filed in launchpad [16:29] against software-properties [16:30] shadeslayer: hi, I wanted to do so, but Scott recommended to file it on kde-bugs :-( [16:30] kdeuser56: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+filebug [16:32] shadeslayer: could you answer me a little question? [16:32] sure [16:33] I also might have a patch for that [16:33] shadeslayer: is https://github.com/torvalds/linux what will become 3.15? [16:33] looks quite alot like the sip destroy on exit bug [16:33] kdeuser56: dunno, I'd hazard a guess at yes [16:34] shadeslayer: why can't gdb handle the sip stuff? [16:35] shadeslayer: I do not know what debug symbols to install ... I wrote a script to install all dbgsym for every installed package and it still prints ?? ... very strange [16:38] shadeslayer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1307170 [16:38] Launchpad bug 1307170 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde crashed when triggering mirror selection and clicking ok quickly" [Undecided,New] [16:39] shadeslayer: my script revealed a bunch of intersting packaging problems: [16:39] shadeslayer: marble-plugins-dbgsym installs marble-dbg which installs marble [16:41] I am not informed enough on sip stuff :) [16:41] kdeuser56: and I don't see a problem marble-dbg installing marble [16:41] I think it's a recommends, that you could turn off [16:42] shadeslayer: no I do not think it's a recommend, because if I uninstall marble marble-dbg will also be removed [16:42] I don't see how the plugins-dbg package will be useful without marble [16:43] shadeslayer: the situation is the following: by default we do not have marble installed, but marble-plugins [16:44] shadeslayer: now I want to install the -dbgsym for that ... I am not interested in installing marble [16:45] bbiab, meeting time [16:45] okay, can we continue, when you are back? [16:51] kdeuser56: http://paste.kde.org/pthdgy7os [16:51] kdeuser56: can you try that patch to software-properties-kde [16:51] and see if you can reproduce the crash [16:52] shadeslayer: meeting time over? yeah wait I'll reboot in a minute [16:52] not reall [16:52] multitasking :) [16:53] *really [16:53] shadeslayer: can we talk about my package questions later? [16:53] sure [16:53] thanks [17:00] shadeslayer: could you relink ^^ stupid me [17:02] shadeslayer: the patch [17:07] kdeuser56: http://paste.kde.org/pthdgy7os [17:08] there is small issue with updates notification, if we run muon and do Check updates and some are found - we have notification. Than if we apply them and it is finished second notification show sup (with info what we have updates) [17:09] soee_: known issue [17:09] I'll have a looky with apol today [17:09] shadeslayer: ok :) [17:27] shadeslayer: after applying your patch when going to "configure software sources" muon only updates software sources and return to normal view ... [17:27] shadeslayer: it seems "configure software sources" turned to a tigger for "apt-get update" [17:27] shadeslayer: had a similar issue after upgrading last time though ... [17:28] shadeslayer: i have rebooted but the behavior does not change :-( [17:31] shadeslayer: what i did: apt-get source software-properties-kde then apt-get build-dep software-properties-kde then applied your patch change into the folder software-properties-kde and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b [17:35] kdeuser56: yeah, should work I guess [17:36] shadeslayer: but directly modifying /usr/bin/software-properties-kde should work too, right? [17:39] shadeslayer: directly reverting your patch in /usr/bin/software-properties-kde makes muon work again [17:40] shadeslayer: with your patch i get the following error when starting muon from command line: [17:40] File "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde", line 55 [17:40] _ = gettext.gettext [17:40] ^ [17:40] IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level [17:41] hm [17:43] shadeslayer: please ping me when you have suggestions, otherwise I wont notice it [17:43] kdeuser56: right, thinking [17:44] kdeuser56: it works for me here [17:44] shadeslayer: on trusty fully updated? [17:44] yep [17:44] wtf? [17:45] shadeslayer: have you restarted muon? [17:45] shadeslayer: and when restarting start from another terminal [17:45] kdeuser56: yep [17:46] kdeuser56: can you pastebin /usr/bin/software-properties-kde [17:48] shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/p5pmhwmw8 [17:49] kdeuser56: try removing the except and try lines [17:49] as well as the 'pass' line [17:49] and re indent sip.setdestroyonexit [17:49] make sure you're using spaces [17:49] not tabs [17:51] shadeslayer: so only sip.setdestroyonexit(False) should be left of your patch? [17:52] kdeuser56: yes, and the import sip line [17:53] shadeslayer: works now ... wait trying to get it crashing [17:53] awesome [17:55] soee_: oh, do you still have the notification icon? [17:55] * shadeslayer needs to trigger a package update somehow [17:57] soee_: poke poke [18:01] nvm [18:20] ScottK: I have a fix for muon [18:20] ScottK: can you approve if I upload? [18:22] shadeslayer: could not trigger a crash until now [18:22] hm [18:22] kdeuser56: please keep using it [18:22] shadeslayer: could however trigger crashes when removing your patch [18:22] kdeuser56: oh [18:22] another pyqt issue then :/ [18:23] kdeuser56: I'll push the fix to software-properties-kde [18:23] thanks for reporting [18:23] shadeslayer: why hm? i was not sucessful triggering a crash [18:23] shadeslayer: your patch works no crashes, what issues are you talking about? [18:24] kdeuser56: that's a good thing, but I'd rather not push such intrusive patches the week before release [18:24] intrusive because it's a workaround for the actual issue [18:24] shadeslayer: I can't however reliably reproduce the issue ... [18:24] shadeslayer: it happens rather spontaneously, sometimes the first time you try sometimes the 5th time [18:25] *nod* [18:27] ScottK: uploaded [18:28] shadeslayer: in the systray ? [18:28] soee_: yeah, nvm, I have a patch [18:28] ok, tha icon is here for me [18:29] ScottK: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/172744572/muon_2.2.0-0ubuntu2_2.2.0-0ubuntu3.diff.gz [18:29] soee_: ^^ [18:30] shadeslayer: is it already in updates ? [18:30] soee_: no [18:30] waiting for approval [18:30] ok [18:34] shadeslayer: plasma-dataengines-addons-dbgsym installs "plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widget-lancelot kde-wallpapers" [18:35] shadeslayer: it obviously install unnecessary stuff I do not need for debugging [18:35] shadeslayer: kde-wallpapers? why? removing them will also remove the debug symbols [18:38] shadeslayer: dbgsym are autogenerated right? where are the scripts? I want to have a look at them [18:45] kdeuser56: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/software-properties/fix-for-1307170/+merge/215580 [18:45] plz comment [18:46] kdeuser56: that's correct [18:47] shadeslayer: that is the version I could not get working ... [18:47] kdeuser56: yeah, it works fine for me here, not sure why it wouldn't work on your system, but that code is required [18:47] shadeslayer: then I will confirm it works in the hope that it will do ;-) [18:48] kdeuser56: as for your dbg question, plasma-wallpapers-addons depends on kde-wallpapers [18:49] and the dbg package depends on the plasma-wallpapers-addons [18:49] and probably the dbgsym package depends on the dbg package [18:50] shadeslayer: no it installs exactly plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widget-lancelot and kde-wallpapers [18:51] read my reply again [18:51] there's a dep chain [18:51] shadeslayer: I do not want the wallpaper addons either [18:51] kdeuser56: too late for trusty I'm afraid [18:52] shadeslayer: no problem I can manually edit the dpkg status file so that it works ;-), but could you solve the issue? [18:52] heh [18:53] shadeslayer: do you agree that is a packaging bug? [18:53] well [18:53] I'd say that depends might be too strict [18:53] yes [18:53] kdeuser56: please report a bug in Debian [18:53] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/kde-sc/kdeplasma-addons.git;a=blob;f=debian/control;h=84233e03c228aa990655ed6993886128b853c48f;hb=HEAD#l229 [18:54] ^^ same issue in Debian [18:54] shadeslayer: I thought dbgsym packages are specific to ubuntu? [18:54] I don't think this is a dbgsym package issue [18:55] kdeuser56: what does apt-cache depends plasma-dataengines-addons-dbgsym say [18:55] my (calculated) guess is that it depends on kdeplasma-addons-dbg [18:56] shadeslayer: your guess is right ^^ [18:56] kdeuser56: right, so it's dragged in by kdeplasma-addons-dbg and the dbgsym package probably doesn't directly depend on kde-wallpapers [18:59] shadeslayer: why does the dbgsym depend on kdeplasma-addons-dbg anyway? I thought they could exist independent from -dbg? [19:00] kdeuser56: they can be co installed, but not sure if you can uncouple them [19:00] because dh_shlibs adds the deps IIRC [19:00] shadeslayer: in the wiki says dbg and dbgsym of the same package should conflict ... [19:02] shadeslayer: does not happen for all packages however ... muon-dbg and muon-dbgsym are coinstallable [19:02] shadeslayer: somehow the whole -dbgsym / -dbg situation seems really messy [19:02] shadeslayer: normally they should both include similar files and should conflict ... [19:04] it is weird [19:04] shadeslayer: all that problems with unnecessary stuff being pulled in is true for dbgsym packages that want to install dbg packages [19:04] you'll need someone who knows more about the dbgsym packages, try #ubuntu-devel [19:05] shadeslayer: I will consult with pitti maybe in the next days, he should know that, shoudln't he? [19:05] dunno [19:05] I'd ask generally in #ubuntu-devel [19:05] shadeslayer: yeah I will do that ... first try would be to find out why some dbgsym install dbg stuff ... [19:06] shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333291 [19:06] KDE bug 333291 in notifier "Notifier claims updates are available when they are not." [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] [19:06] shadeslayer: thanks for your enormous help! kudos! [19:42] kdeuser56: np [20:19] upgrading to trusty on my machine [20:20] the virtual machines upgraded fine so it should work here too [21:17] Upgrade successful [21:26] :D [21:39] mmm [21:39] more kamoso issues kamoso(11767)/KIPI (loading) KIPI::PluginLoader::init: Plugin "YouTube" has a SO version ( 0 ) which is different than libkipi ABI version ( 11 ). Refusing to load. [21:56] I just checked the daily iso, but it seems in the second step Turkish characters are seen strange: http://i.imgur.com/d4Kr6di.png [21:59] shadeslayer: Thanks for the quick fix on Muon. [22:01] can someone reproduce it in another languages? [22:04] ook [22:06] hi all, what's the craic? [22:06] what's a craic? [22:06] yo dudes, what's going down? [22:06] that easier to understand? [22:07] reckon [22:07] not that it sounds any better though [22:07] I hear stuff was broken in the muonesque department again [22:08] also I have a mail in my inbox titled "will pam-kwallet work in debian?" [22:08] Riddell: how was the boat thing of yours? [22:09] apachelogger: shadeslayer did an upload he claims fixed the muon issue. Still have software-properties stuffs though. [22:10] boat thing was great, got a nice certificate for open canadians [22:12] guys do you have strange behaviour with batery indicator/applet ? [22:12] I have no idea what it means but sounds neat ^^ [22:14] this is what i have: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/14/batery_monitor.jpeg :D [22:16] this is the new multi dimensional text mode [22:17] it's made for the wicked mind [22:17] soee__: bugs.kde.org [22:17] plasma apparently tries to textwrap because the translation is too long [22:17] alas, it does not adjust the actual element size, so qt just mushes the text together I reckon [22:17] apachelogger: there are 2 separate labels i think [22:18] ah, not that then [22:18] still a plasma bug [22:18] Battery monitor and Screen brightness [22:18] perhaps one of the two uses too big an icon [22:18] I see there is a screen that appears to be too big [22:18] looks 32x32, while it should be 16x16, so maybe it's a plasmoid bug [22:19] still wouldn't explain why two labels are on top of one another though [22:19] plasma layouting works in mysterious ways some times [22:19] if i turn off battery minitor all thi sis gone [22:19] soee__: well, file a bug [22:19] I can do bug guessing all day :P [22:20] ok will test a bit more and report than [22:20] apachelogger Riddell what do you think we should do about this? [22:20] > I just checked the daily iso, but it seems in the second step Turkish characters are seen strange: http://i.imgur.com/d4Kr6di.png [22:20] it could also be that they are making love to each other [22:20] who knows [22:21] kinky plasmoids, that's totally a thing [22:21] vgezer: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu [22:23] it could be a) ubiquity-kde somehow turning the string into ISO encoding when it should be utf8 b) ubiquity-common doing that c) ubiquity-common reading the string in a bogus way d) the string somehow having been translated such that it either is incorrectly encoded or broken to begin with [22:23] something wrong with the translation seems most likely though, since it is contained to two lines [22:24] (random note: ubiquity is not translated into klingon :'<) [22:25] i checked the strings on launchpad, but it seems it is translated correctly and hasn't changed since 2011 [22:25] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/tr/193/+translate [22:25] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1299881 [22:25] Launchpad bug 1299881 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Strange characters in different locale" [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:26] yes, i resent the same string again. [22:26] aah this one [22:26] maybe check the po file in the source [22:27] perhaps the export is broken [22:27] but this is also new, though. [22:27] vgezer: well, not that new [22:27] do you think sending this again can solve it, maybe? [22:28] no [22:31] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubiquity/trusty/files [22:31] well, I do not have the slightest idea where exactly the pos are for that thing [22:31] it redirects me here and there are only three strings in po file :) [22:31] ahh ok, thanks :) [22:31] it may be in a language pack [22:31] who knows [22:32] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubiquity/trusty/view/head:/debian/real-po/tr.po [22:32] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubiquity/trusty/view/head:/debian/real-po/tr.po#L1412 [22:32] haha, at the same time :) [22:33] it seems the string is exported correct it seems [22:33] yes [22:33] so one can assume it is also compiled correctly [22:33] which leaves the possible problems in ubiquity's code [22:34] though I fail to see how the best results line woudl be any differently processed from the other ones [22:35] the header I could imagine the s/RELEASE/Kubuntu/ thing perhaps having an encoding problem, but the other line... makes no sense at all [22:35] anyway [22:35] * apachelogger is off to bed [22:36] i see. i reopened the issue [22:36] thanks a lot. let's see. but its too bad that will happen for LTS :/ [22:36] because it was ok for 13.10 [22:39] good night.