[02:18] <Ahmuck> hi. is there a way to set language settings for programs prior to opening them
[15:09] <SunilJoshi> Hello, whenver i press Windows + D, it minimize my bottom pannel. I am on lubuntu 13.10
[15:09] <chulis> hello why I see two icons exactly equal (the same) in notification area in the panel?
[15:11] <wxl> SunilJoshi: you can change keybindings. let me find the location.
[15:12] <wxl> chulis: probably because you have two of the same programs runninga t the same time. which one is it?
[15:12] <SunilJoshi> wxl: Thanks but i donot need to change keybindings. i want to stop minimizing the panel on windows + D
[15:13] <SunilJoshi> I remmber it was working fine before..
[15:13] <wxl> SunilJoshi: what changed since?
[15:13] <SunilJoshi> wxl: i didnt changed any panel settings, this is i am sure about
[15:14] <wxl> SunilJoshi: i see in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml W-d is bound to "ToggleShowDesktop." not sure why that has any effect on your panel.
[15:15] <chulis> the icon is wifi
[15:15] <SunilJoshi> chulis: check if you have added wifi notification twice in the panel
[15:16] <wxl> chulis: i agree with SunilJoshi. alternately, you can check to see if you have more than one instance of nm-applet running (ps aux | grep -i [n]m-applet)
[15:18] <SunilJoshi> wxl: same for me..
[15:21] <chulis> how can i check to see that?
[15:22] <SunilJoshi> right click on the panel -> got to panel setting and then to panel applets tab and check in the list.. if you have 2 wifi added
[15:22] <SunilJoshi> chulis: ^^
[15:22] <chulis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245106/
[15:23] <chulis> all applets are differents
[15:24] <wxl> chulis: you have two running, right?
[15:24] <wxl> chulis: 1415 is one process ID and the other PID is 1426
[15:25] <chulis> ok so how can i delete one?
[15:26] <chulis> i only want to see one wifi icon
[15:26] <wxl> chulis: kill one of them
[15:26] <wxl> chulis: there are gui ways to do it but the easiest way is to just do something like [ kill 1426 ]
[15:27] <Ahmuck> hi.  i need to get spellcheck for english on a spanish system.  how
[15:28] <chulis> ok i killed now only one wifi icon
[15:28] <chulis> maybe when i restart the system it be same again?
[15:28] <wxl> chulis: in fact `pidof nm-applet` would return "1415 1426" which could be passed to kill like `kill $(pidof nm-applet)` which would be like typing `kill 1415`. that assumes you want to get rid of the first one.
[15:28] <wxl> chulis: possibly. only one way to find out.
[15:30] <SunilJoshi> wxl:  anything else i can check..
[15:30] <wxl> SunilJoshi: i can't think of a darn thing, honestly, unless you're running some other keybinding program.
[15:31] <SunilJoshi> wxl: i am sure no other keybinding program is running
[15:31] <SunilJoshi> anyways thanks!! :)
[15:31] <wxl> chulis: do you have more than one nm-applet.desktop in /xdg/autostart?
[15:31] <chulis> ok im going to restart for testing
[15:36] <SunilJoshi> wxl: ping
[15:36] <wxl> SunilJoshi: yep?
[15:37] <chulis> bad luck for me i restarted and contunue both wifi icon....
[15:37] <wxl> chulis: do you have more than one nm-applet.desktop in /xdg/autostart?
[15:37] <chulis> may yesterday i was making things
[15:37] <chulis> maybe
[15:38] <SunilJoshi> wxl: there was a miss from my side desktop was lxde, i have logged in again on lubuntu desktop and i dont see the problem
[15:38] <chulis> i add a weather channel icon
[15:38] <wxl> chulis: you probably added a wifi one by accident
[15:38] <chulis> maybe
[15:38] <wxl> SunilJoshi: curious.
[15:39] <wxl> SunilJoshi: we'll do some grepping in a second
[15:39] <SunilJoshi> wxl: i have checked both the files at the same location you shared with me previously and W-d is set to "Toggle..Desktop"
[15:42] <wxl> chulis: what's the result of `grep indicator ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel | wc -l`?
[15:44] <chulis> i put that on terminal and nothing
[15:46] <wxl> chulis: well that's strange. you should at least get one.
[15:46] <SunilJoshi> brb..
[15:48] <wxl> SunilJoshi: `diff /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE | pastebinit` (if you don't have pastebinit, install it)
[15:49] <wxl> SunilJoshi: you might be able to run that through /exec in your irc client to output the url here to save you the copying/pasting
[15:49] <wxl> gotta run an errand brb
[15:50] <SunilJoshi> wxl: are you on weechat too :) ?
[15:50] <chulis> it says no directory exist
[15:50] <wxl> SunilJoshi: no, i use irssi, though i've been considering the change
[15:50] <wxl> chulis: no dictionary exist??
[15:51] <chulis> grep indicator ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel | wc -l
[15:51] <chulis> with that
[15:51] <wxl> chulis: try it without the | wc -l
[15:53] <chulis> the same
[15:54] <chulis> no directory
[15:54] <wxl> i have never had a command in my life produce "no directory"
[15:55] <SunilJoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245276/
[15:55] <wxl> navigate through that file path and see if you can figure out where it is (e.g. cd to .config, then lxpanel, etc.)
[15:55] <SunilJoshi> wxl: ^^, /exec didn't worked :(
[15:55] <chulis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245279/
[15:56] <wxl> SunilJoshi: it seems that /exec is newish in weechat. weird
[15:56] <wxl> SunilJoshi: and could you do the same diff but on the folders and not the autostart?
[15:59] <wxl> SunilJoshi: actually do diff -u too
[15:59] <chulis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245289/
[16:00] <wxl> chulis: how many network applets do you have?
[16:01] <chulis> i have two equal wifi icon
[16:01] <chulis> one eth1
[16:01] <chulis> and one eth0
[16:02] <chulis> on the panel
[16:02] <wxl> so bizzare.
[16:02] <wxl> i wonder if it's that network stat applet
[16:03] <chulis> dont understand
[16:03] <wxl> chulis: in fact, i bet that's it. remove network status monitor and add indicator applets.
[16:03] <wxl> anyways off to the store brb
[16:05] <chulis> if i remove notification area despaera icon wifi and weather channel as well
[16:17] <SunilJoshi> wxl: where i need to do this, diff of which 2 folders?
[16:19] <wxl> ok back
[16:19] <wxl> chulis: JUST "Network Status Monitor." only remove that one.
[16:19] <wxl> chulis: then ADD "Indicator Applets"
[16:20] <wxl> SunilJoshi: `diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu`
[16:26] <SunilJoshi> wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245424/
[16:29] <SunilJoshi> diff: extra operand `|'
[16:29] <SunilJoshi> diff: Try `diff --help' for more information.
[16:31] <wxl> SunilJoshi: well good news is nothing there but what exact command did you use?
[16:31] <wxl> …to get the above error ↑
[16:31] <SunilJoshi> /exec -o diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu | pastebinit
[16:31] <SunilJoshi> wxl: how you get that arrow :) ?
[16:32] <wxl> SunilJoshi: might want to wrap the command in quotes next time
[16:32] <SunilJoshi> /exec -o 'diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu' | pastebinit
[16:32] <SunilJoshi> Error with command ''diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu' | pastebinit'
[16:33] <wxl> SunilJoshi: Ctrl-U 2191 is the easy way. in urxvt, you can do Ctrl-Shift-↑
[16:33] <wxl> SunilJoshi: i'm sure there's a super key function for it too
[16:34] <wxl> SunilJoshi: yeah you should include the WHOLE command (incl. | pastebinit) in the quotes
[16:34] <SunilJoshi> Error with command ''diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu | pastebinit''
[16:34] <SunilJoshi> nope :(!
[16:34] <wxl> strange. some odd parsing issue with weechat's plugin, i guess. irssi can handle it ;)
[16:35] <SunilJoshi> wxl: asked the this question in #weechat :), lets see what i get
[16:35] <wxl> SunilJoshi: do you have a Lubuntu and LXDE directory in ~/.config/lxpanel?
[16:36]  * SunilJoshi checking..
[16:40] <SunilJoshi> yes i do have
[16:41] <SunilJoshi> i have one more Lubuntu-Nexus7/
[16:41] <wxl> SunilJoshi: ok do the diff on those two directories (currently i'm not worried about the Nexus one)
[16:41] <SunilJoshi> wxl: ok
[16:42] <SunilJoshi> wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245526/
[16:42] <SunilJoshi> command used : diff -u /home/om/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/ /home/om/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/
[16:47] <wxl> SunilJoshi: try the same thing on ~/.config/pcamnfm
[16:47] <wxl> er
[16:47] <wxl> pcmanfm
[16:47] <wxl> iff. there are two different subdirectories
[16:51] <vn151502510> SunilJoshi: Start Menu -> Preferences -> DesktopSettings -> Default applications for LXSession. Tab Running apps, look for Network GUI, command should be blank.
[16:51] <SunilJoshi> wxl: i have 3 different directory ,deafult; lubuntu; LXDE
[16:52] <wxl> SunilJoshi: it doesn't appear you're using default, so diff the other two
[16:53] <wxl> vn151502510: are you responding to the multiple wifi in taskbar issue? because that was for chulis
[16:53] <SunilJoshi> vn151502510: you also makes me think .. :-o
[16:54] <vn151502510> oh, sorry
[16:54] <SunilJoshi> wxl: give me a sec..
[16:54] <wxl> SunilJoshi: take your time. it's not like i don't have anything better to do ;)
[16:55] <SunilJoshi> wxl: :D!
[16:55] <SunilJoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245595/
[16:55] <SunilJoshi> i made pastebinit crash it seems, while doing all this..
[16:56] <SunilJoshi> got a trace back
[16:56] <wxl> SunilJoshi: you can report a bug on that if you'd like.
[16:57] <wxl> oh!
[16:58] <wxl> SunilJoshi: there's only lubuntu-rc.xml in ~/.config/openbox, right? or are there two directories like the others?
[16:59] <SunilJoshi> wxl: lubuntu-rc.xml, lxde-rc.xml ,  these 2 files are there
[16:59]  * wxl facepalms
[16:59] <wxl> all that work and it's right freaking there
[16:59] <wxl> diff those two and we'll find the problem i'm sure
[17:00] <SunilJoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245619/
[17:03] <wxl> SunilJoshi: especially with thiss one i need diff -u please
[17:03] <SunilJoshi> wxl: sure!
[17:04] <SunilJoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245639/
[17:10] <wxl> SunilJoshi: it appears most of your keybinds in the lxde one are hidden in line 174. annoying.
[17:10] <SunilJoshi> wxl: its by default
[17:11] <SunilJoshi> i never changed that
[17:11] <wxl> i believe you
[17:11] <wxl> still, it sucks XD
[17:11] <wxl> it appears both have W-d set to ToggleShowDesktop
[17:11] <SunilJoshi> yes i checked this before coming to you again :)
[17:11] <wxl> so they should both have the same response
[17:11] <SunilJoshi> indeed!
[17:12] <SunilJoshi> wxl: Nevertheless thanks alot for your debugging!
[17:12] <wxl> it's possible that the tags are messed up but i can't see anything that would obvious make W-d messed up
[17:13] <SunilJoshi> hmm.. right!
[17:13] <wxl> SunilJoshi: you could try properly formatting it and see if you can come up with anything
[17:15] <wxl> SunilJoshi: i'm on a fresh 13.10 and i don't have one so that's probably a holdover from a previous install. you might want to try a live cd from one of those and see if you can come up with anything
[17:16] <SunilJoshi> wxl: ok!
[18:08] <SunilJoshi> wxl: /exec worked for me! /exec needs -sh option to make it work as it contains pipe (|)
[18:09] <Unit193> What client?
[18:09] <SunilJoshi> weechat
[18:14] <chulis> i have installed gkrellweather but i dont find the to run it ¿where is installed?
[18:54] <chulis> have installed gkrellweather but i dont find the to run it ¿where is installed?
[19:15] <ianorlin> I don't know but maybe try reading the man page but it looks like it is a graphical program
[19:19] <ianorlin> try running it from the terminal with a & after it to run it in the background
[20:04] <wxl> afaik you need gkrellm to use any of its monitors, including weather, chulis
[20:04] <ianorlin> yeah that is a dependency to the weather monitor
[20:05] <chulis> you mean i have to install gkrellm?
[20:05] <wxl> chulis: i mean you not only need to install it but you need to use it to see the weather monitor
[20:05] <ianorlin> I think if you installed the weather monitor from repos it should have installed it as it is a dependency
[20:06] <ianorlin> so you need to start it within gkrellm
[20:07] <chulis> yes i have installed from repos
[20:07] <chulis> synaptic
[20:08] <chulis> i have gkrellm 2.3.5 installed
[20:09] <chulis> gnu krell monitors
[20:09] <wxl> so load gkrellm to use the widget. consult the man page for more info or find someone that actually uses it :)
[20:09] <wxl> needless to say, it's not going to show up in your panel
[20:09] <chulis> i dont see in my panel
[20:09] <wxl> it never will
[20:09] <wxl> it's not a panel widget
[20:09] <ianorlin> it isn't a monitor for your panel
[20:09] <wxl> it's a "widget" if you will for gkrellm
[20:10] <chulis> so its a widget?
[20:10] <wxl> no
[20:10] <chulis> it would stya on desktop or where?
[20:10] <chulis> stay
[20:10] <wxl> i think
[20:10] <wxl> not sure
[20:10] <wxl> don't use it
[20:11] <chulis> do you have one of this applet?
[20:11] <wxl> no
[20:11] <wxl> but i know it's not an applet
[20:11] <chulis> weather i mena
[20:11] <chulis> mean
[20:11] <wxl> nope
[20:11] <chulis> ok
[20:13] <chulis> i have an applet (not sure if its a apllet) when system reeboot  it appears with two wifi icons and dont know why
[20:13] <chulis> in the panel
[20:13] <wxl> i already told you how to deal with this
[20:13] <chulis> bisides the clock
[20:14] <chulis> yes  i tried
[20:14] <wxl> you removed "Network Status Monitor?"
[20:14] <chulis> but i cant resolv
[20:14] <chulis> yes evreythin
[20:14] <chulis> even a new panel
[20:14] <chulis> and always the same
[20:14] <wxl> send a screenshot of the panel
[20:15] <chulis> impr pant?
[20:17] <chulis> I dont know how screenshot
[20:19] <ianorlin> scrot in a terminal works
[20:21] <chulis> im trying with gimp
[20:24] <chulis> doy you receiveded?
[20:25] <chulis> wxl?
[20:29] <chulis> il be back later
[20:30] <ianorlin> ok
[20:47] <chulis> ok did you recevied by ddc?
[20:47]  * ianorlin did not
[20:48] <ianorlin> oh it is starting
[20:48] <chulis> no run ddc?
[20:49] <ianorlin> it failed
[20:49] <chulis> ianorlin: ianorlin: doesnt star
[20:53] <Unit193> !imagebin