[03:47] <snwh> i somehow survived the massive net split
[06:17] <techbee> hi all
[06:18] <techbee> frinds is ubuntu touch better than meamo?
[06:18] <techbee> anyone thre?
[06:26] <echoe> fronds!
[07:06] <Aki-Thinkpad> Rats
[07:06] <Aki-Thinkpad> I missed my chance to hate on meamo
[07:06] <TomTheGeek> ha
[07:06] <Aki-Thinkpad> Thats really cruel
[07:07] <Aki-Thinkpad> I should go to #arch and ask if ubuntu is better than arch, and then leave right after :P
[07:07] <TomTheGeek> terrible
[07:07] <TomTheGeek> i actually liked arch until they removed the installer framework
[07:07] <Aki-Thinkpad> TomTheGeek, its been awhile since I used it. I use ubuntu though for unity, although I suppose you could get it working on arch as well
[07:08] <TomTheGeek> someone prolly ported it over somehow
[07:09] <Aki-Thinkpad> if only people knew why the hud is so great :P
[07:10] <TomTheGeek> holy crap i was right
[07:10] <TomTheGeek> there is a port of it on the arch user repo
[07:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> TomTheGeek, they love the goods ~
[07:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> TomTheGeek, now, do they have mir?
[07:14] <TomTheGeek> Aki-Thinkpad, yes, there is a unoffical port on their user repo system
[07:15] <Aki-Thinkpad> o_O nice work arch guys
[07:15] <TomTheGeek> i had lightdm running on my old linux machine haha
[07:16] <Aki-Thinkpad> TomTheGeek, are you working on any applications for touch?
[07:17] <TomTheGeek> Aki-Thinkpad, i'm screwing around with a port of it with my phone. some awesome dev got trusty to work on the d2att
[07:17] <Aki-Thinkpad> TomTheGeek, oh nice! Ive only run touch on one device, and it was a developers preview
[07:17] <Aki-Thinkpad> I was still really impressed.
[07:18] <TomTheGeek> yeah, back then i was running that on my old htc ace (desire hd/inspire 4g)
[07:21] <Aki-Thinkpad> TomTheGeek, how does it run now? Have you thought about app development? I'm just going through the qml tutorials now
[07:21] <Aki-Thinkpad> took me a bit to find the best one to start on
[07:22] <TomTheGeek> Aki-Thinkpad, i'm working on updating the thing to the latest packages. It runs well, aside from a few buttons not working and some other functions
[07:22] <Aki-Thinkpad> TomTheGeek, Wait, do you actually understand how to do all that kernel android stuff?
[07:23] <TomTheGeek> Aki-Thinkpad, naw, i know how to build cyanogenmod and that's it.
[07:24] <Aki-Thinkpad> TomTheGeek, that stuff is so incredibly complicated; I tried taking my hand at porting a device, but having no previous experience with android, it was way too overwhelming
[07:27] <TomTheGeek> Aki-Thinkpad, yeah, i learned over time. it's really time comsuming when you gotta download 15+ gigs of android trees
[07:28] <Aki-Thinkpad> TomTheGeek, _
[07:28] <Aki-Thinkpad> o_o *
[07:55] <Carbon14> hi
[08:04] <Carbon14> can someone help me please
[08:12] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, hmmm?
[08:13] <Carbon14> whats the difference beetwen ubuntu-touch and ubuntu-touch-preview
[08:14] <Carbon14> where I can find find the info? or do you know?
[08:14] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, if I am not mistaken, the touch preview is basically something you would take to a demonstration
[08:14] <Aki-Thinkpad> where as the touch will basically be the latest branch
[08:14] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, What are you trying to do?
[08:17] <Carbon14> try the ubuntu touch on my android but i dont know what version to use
[08:18] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, what you need to do is find your phone, because each one uses a different issue
[08:18] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, unless you have like a nexus, or something.
[08:18] <Carbon14> nexus 4 wgy?
[08:18] <Carbon14> why?
[08:19] <Carbon14> rooted with customrecovery
[08:19] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[08:19] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, well you have a goodish phone then to do it on
[08:20] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, for example, I had a barnes and noble nook; the image that is available for that one was over a year old
[08:20] <Carbon14> but for nexus 4 whats the diferance
[08:20] <Carbon14> I can use brand new version?
[08:22] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, it all depends what version has been made available for the device
[08:23] <Aki-Thinkpad> because each device is kind of unique, so it needs ubuntu-touch to be more or less tailored for it
[08:23] <Aki-Thinkpad> sec
[08:23] <Carbon14> but ubuntu-touch is like I install totaly a new os but ubuntu-touch-preview is like I install a new rom?
[08:24] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, TBH, I don't want to give you bad advice, so I do not really know where the project is at yet
[08:25] <Aki-Thinkpad> but I "THINK" you are not too far off. I "THINK" initially, the touch was basically an android hack until they got mir working to where they want it.
[08:25] <Aki-Thinkpad> but I am vague on the details
[08:26] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, Uhmm, what would be really good actually is to post this question on AskUbuntu, because when other people ask the same question, they will see the post as well
[08:27] <Carbon14> on what?
[08:28] <Carbon14> on askubuntu?
[08:28] <Carbon14> whats that?
[08:30] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, Its a stackexchange for ubuntu
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> ive tested ubuntu-touch on my nexus7 Carbon14
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> it needs alot of work still
[08:31] <Aki-Thinkpad> actually someone was on here earlier doing ubuntu touch on his nexus 4
[08:31]  * Aki-Thinkpad checks logs
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> Aki-Thinkpad: it works alrright, but still need alot of fixing
[08:32] <Carbon14> work like what?
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> Carbon14: screen automatic turns, tocching links not always work
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> Carbon14: automatic keyboard doesnt always show
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> etc
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> i found an easy tut to install
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> want it?
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> Carbon14: http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-touch-nexus-7-2013/
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> im gonna reinstall it after its all fixxed
[08:35] <Carbon14> and does it work good?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> Carbon14: its stable as Os yes, but not flawlessly
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> Carbon14: maybe nexus4 works smoother
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> Carbon14: try and install and decide yourself :p
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> you can always go back to android if no like
[08:37] <Carbon14> speed was good?
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> speed was very good
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> sliding works perfect
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> apps too
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> terminal, browsing,
[08:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> I heard the nexus 4 was a tad bit slow
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> didnt test myself on nexus4
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> Aki-Thinkpad: i hope touch gets released as stable soon :p
[09:02] <Aki-Thinkpad> lotuspsychje, I hope I can get my hands on a device :)
[09:02] <Aki-Thinkpad> lotuspsychje, especially since I am developing an app for it ~
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> cool
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> wich app?
[09:10] <Aki-Thinkpad> lotuspsychje, Ever heard of apl?
[09:10] <Aki-Thinkpad> I am basically front ending that language into a calculator
[09:11] <Aki-Thinkpad> and calling it a logic calculator
[09:11] <Aki-Thinkpad> Apple and Android have nothing like it >:]
[09:11] <Aki-Thinkpad> it will be the killer app for nerds
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> Aki-Thinkpad: nice!
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[09:15] <Aki-Thinkpad> o/
[09:49] <Carbon14> coment on fait pour avoir acces au channel quon a pas acces?
[09:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> !french
[09:51] <Aki-Thinkpad> Carbon14, ^
[10:58] <carbon14__> shats the diferance btween ubuntu touch and ubuntu touch preview?
[11:09] <FujitsuM532> Have anyone tried flashing Ubuntu Touch on a non-supported tablet?
[14:06] <Denchyaknow> hi wvweyonw~
[14:06] <Denchyaknow> whoops..
[14:06] <Denchyaknow> hello..
[14:06] <Denchyaknow> I was wondering if i could get some tips on ubuntu touch?
[14:11] <Denchyaknow> anyone there?
[17:31] <weebo> hi im trying to get a wireless adapter working through an otg cable, itsa
[17:32] <weebo> dlink ar9170 based dongle. has anyone dealt with one before?
[17:41] <weebo> or does anyone know what chipset would work with ubuntu touch?
[19:03] <weebo> where does  /lib/firmware reside on touch?
[20:42] <weebo> anyone in?
[20:49] <weebo> is there an actual active  touch irc channel?
[21:04] <beuno> weebo, yes, but not so much on Sundays
[21:14] <weebo> figured it'd be busier
[22:11] <bizounours> Hi
[22:33] <PreSSion_> hi! I want buy a smartphone, because I haven't got mobile right now, is it posible ubuntu phone (the smartphones) release to 2014 ends or Apribl...? because I think a mobile but idk if i must wait... (sry for my "engrish")
[22:34] <PreSSion_> sry, no "I think", I wanted write "I need"
[22:34] <PreSSion_> xd, sry
[22:46] <bef0rd> nexus 4 is the current reference device as far as I know
[22:47] <bef0rd> also I read that the second half of this year devices with ubuntu preinstalled will be available