[01:46] <shauno> huh, haven't seen that before.  ebay listing with scotland on the list of countries they don't ship to
[01:46] <shauno> but they do ship to the uk & ireland
[01:51] <daftykins> lol
[01:51] <daftykins> any word on channel islands? :D
[01:52] <shauno> they're not listed :)
[01:53] <shauno> odd list though
[01:53] <shauno> Amman-JORDAN, Aruba, Bolivia, Barbados, Belize, Cameroon, Cayman Islands, China, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Guatemala, Guadeloupe, Guyana, Honduras, Iraq, Jamaica, Liberia, Macedonia, Martinique, Monaco, Pakistan, Philippines, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, San Marino, Serbia,  Scotland, Sri Lanka, Trinidad and Tobago, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Uruguay, Panama, Virgin Islands (U.S.)
[01:54] <shauno> san marino & monaco are kinda non-obvious too.  and they don't ship to china?  they're *in* china!
[01:54] <shauno> but scotland boggles the mind.  especially since they specifically state their average shipping times to the UK
[01:55] <daftykins> lol
[01:56] <shauno> perhaps they see it as a disputed territory now
[01:56] <shauno> oh well.  I shouldn't be on ebay at 3am anyway
[02:10] <daftykins> ugh new neighbour youngsters are having a party again
[02:10] <daftykins> this is not cool
[03:11] <Azelphur> daftykins: there's a simple way to deal with that
[03:11] <daftykins> yeah? :)
[03:11] <Azelphur> daftykins: get some really loud speakers, put them right up against the wall, and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm368W0OsHo
[03:11] <daftykins> i phoned ze police but i'm not sure if they bothered to attend
[03:12] <daftykins> oh. my. word.
[03:12] <Azelphur> I am brilliant, yes?
[03:13] <daftykins> XD
[03:13] <daftykins> i fear this would do more damage to me than them, sir
[03:13] <Azelphur> bonus points if you have the stuff to hijack their speakers
[03:13] <Azelphur> lol
[03:13] <daftykins> but that is definitely weaponised audio
[03:13] <Azelphur> http://lifehacker.com/5852903/silence-noisy-neighbors-by-transmitting-signals-through-their-own-speakers
[03:18] <daftykins> :D
[03:18] <daftykins> sadly it seems to be mostly chatter
[03:18] <daftykins> ok i must sleep, ty for the amusement!
[03:18] <daftykins> \o
[05:17] <mapps> :D
[05:18] <mapps> finally everyones back
[06:43] <knightwise> morning everyone
[09:03] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:38] <dwatkins> hihi
[10:39] <dwatkins> I spent most of yesterday afternoon crafting careful instructions on creating a partition on an iSCSI target with the optimal IO size only to find they were completely ignored.
[10:39] <dwatkins> I think that's strike 2 for this particular friend, next time will be the last time I help him if it goes the same way.
[13:58] <popey> directhex:             done      811.0 MB Rate:   0.0 /   0.0 KB Uploaded: 75133.0 MB                 [   R: 92.64]
[13:58] <popey> shall I stop it now?
[14:00] <penguin42> wth are you uploading?
[14:01] <popey> that's directhex's steam fork thing
[14:12] <directhex> popey, yeah, sure, there's probably plenty of seeders
[14:12] <directhex> i can't seed again until my new HDD arrives
[14:50] <mapps> afternoon
[14:56] <daftykins> weird, had emails from someone saying their domains have expired - registered directly with nominet 0o
[14:56] <daftykins> quite how they managed to get them without a registrar i don't know
[15:01] <mapps> emailed nominet?:D
[15:02] <daftykins> ?
[15:05] <mapps> maybe thats how they did it direct;y
[15:05] <penguin42> daftykins: Was it a normal org.uk or the like?
[15:05] <daftykins> one .co.uk and one .org.uk
[15:06] <daftykins> neither are actually setup with any services, just purchased
[15:07] <penguin42> something like a registrar that went bust - not sure what happens then?
[15:08] <daftykins> oddly if i login on nominet, it just wants to charge for transfer to another person
[15:08] <daftykins> so... to attach them to a registrar i presume i just go to the registrar site and say 'transfer domains' ? :)
[15:09] <daftykins> stupid 123-reg wanted payment details entered when the total was £0.00 :>
[15:09] <penguin42> was that as a verification?
[15:09] <daftykins> nah it was just sort of 'add transfer to basket'
[15:10] <daftykins> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-028-CR
[15:10] <daftykins> wow.
[15:10] <daftykins> 240GB Crucial M500 - £79.99 in VAT land
[15:11] <mapps> is that good
[15:11] <penguin42> coming down nicely
[15:12] <daftykins> yeah, they're clearing stock as the M550 is out, but that's a pretty solid drive
[15:12] <daftykins> oh dear accidental puns galore :(
[15:13] <mapps> heh
[15:17] <daftykins> i've already got SSDs everywhere though so no need here really
[15:18] <daftykins> more have to do something about my decrepit RAID array :<
[15:20] <daftykins> http://anandtech.com/bench/product/807?vs=355
[15:20] <daftykins> that's pretty shocking
[15:22] <penguin42> you mean how they manage such a low read bandwidth?
[15:22] <daftykins> well i'm comparing it there against the m4, which is both its' predecessor and a drive i own in my laptop
[15:23] <daftykins> once you get down to the sequential read section the M500 seriously suffers in comparison
[15:23] <daftykins> without even checking that must be down to larger and so fewer NAND dies
[15:23] <daftykins> so less to operate in parallel
[15:25] <dwatkins> I'm waiting until 1 TB SSDs are about that price.
[15:26] <dwatkins> Most likely it'll be a long wait.
[15:26] <daftykins> how come? :) most scenarios i imagine involve a smaller OS disk then a large mechanical for storage
[15:26] <dwatkins> My laptop only has one drive bay.
[15:26] <daftykins> ah
[15:26] <dwatkins> I suppose I could fit a second drive in an adapter in the optical bay, though.
[15:27] <daftykins> yeah i'd go that way :)
[15:28] <penguin42> dwatkins: Does it have an mSATA slot?
[15:29] <dwatkins> penguin42: I don't think so, it's a MacBook Pro, mid-2010
[15:29] <penguin42> ah
[15:29] <daftykins> ah-har same age as my clients one i upgraded
[15:29] <daftykins> is it the 13" dwatkins ?
[15:29] <dwatkins> yeah, 13"
[15:30] <daftykins> i put a 256GB m4 in my clients, nice straight swap, so easy to work on MBPs of course :)
[15:30] <daftykins> were it today i might go with a 256 or 512GB Samsung 840 Pro
[15:30] <daftykins> the EVOs are newer but i don't trust TLC
[15:31] <dwatkins> I assume the best thing to do with having two disks is to mount /home (i.e. /Users on OS X) as the spinning disk and have the SSD for the OS.
[15:32] <penguin42> dwatkins: On my main desktop I have my /home on the ssd as well, but have a /discs/spinny - that way all my dot files and stuff are still fast
[15:32] <daftykins> ^
[15:32] <daftykins> you can symlink your sorta 'media' directories into your /home so chunky data is off SSD but still accessible
[15:33] <dwatkins> I'm using over 900 GB on this laptop, hence wanting a 1 TB SSD.
[15:33] <daftykins> ouch
[15:33] <dwatkins> aye
[15:33] <daftykins> it your sole machine or something? :)
[15:33] <dwatkins> it's my main machine
[15:33] <daftykins> primary i should say
[15:33] <dwatkins> everything but games
[15:33] <daftykins> what takes up the space?
[15:34] <foobarry> wife spilled tomato soup on the laptop :(
[15:34] <dwatkins> music, apps, probably a bunch of downloaded ISOs I might be able to clear off
[15:34] <dwatkins> also, some virtual machines
[15:35] <dwatkins> I imagine those are the killer.
[15:35] <daftykins> foobarry: D:
[15:35] <dwatkins> :( foobarry
[15:35] <shauno> I did the optical bay adaptor with mine.  love it.
[15:37] <dwatkins> where do you mount the two disks, shauno?
[15:37] <shauno> I have ssd in root, and the other just hanging around in /Volumes for storage
[15:38] <shauno> with surprisingly little in the way of symlink mess .. just one for steam
[15:38] <dwatkins> nifty
[15:38] <shauno> oh, ~/Documents is a symlink too
[15:39] <shauno> the only real issue I've run into is appstore apps that aren't allowed out of their 'container'.  you can't move/symlink their containers :/
[15:42] <dwatkins> ah yes
[15:47] <shauno> random question .. what's the term used for the poles used in kites?
[15:48] <shauno> on ebay, "kite pole" found windsock poles, and "kite shaft" found chinese contraceptives :/  (and just a generic fibreglass pole is mostly tent parts)
[15:52] <daftykins> kite rod ?
[15:54] <shauno> hm, that's getting closer
[15:55] <daftykins> or 'kite frame parts'
[16:46] <foobarry> think the lsptop will be ok. some gunk removed from under keys
[16:46] <foobarry> only corner of keyboard affected
[16:47] <foobarry> aaa
[16:47] <foobarry> no its ok
[16:48] <daftykins> \o/
[16:58] <mapps> lsptop?
[16:59] <daftykins> machines for speech therapy
[16:59] <daftykins> ;)
[17:10] <mapps> hm youve got a macbook pro? nice
[17:11] <mapps> i wouldnt mind one..but i want a bigger screen than they offer
[17:12] <shauno> yaknow, that never really appealed to me.  I took a look at the 17", and it felt like it should have fold-out table legs
[17:12] <daftykins> haha
[17:13] <daftykins> yeah the whole point of a laptop to me is mobility and battery life
[17:13] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[17:13] <shauno> happy standardized greeting, bigcalm
[17:14] <bigcalm> UGT :)
[17:14] <daftykins> morning sir
[17:14] <daftykins> how do?
[17:15] <mapps> heh
[17:15] <shauno> Voyager just got weird.  it feels like they tried to swap out Kes for 7of9 in one episode and hoped no-one would notice
[17:15] <mapps> yea
[17:15] <mapps> but theyre so expensive i figure i want maximum screen real estate
[17:15] <daftykins> shauno: lol
[17:15] <daftykins> shauno: i'm on the final season of DS9 now at last
[17:16] <daftykins> however apparently wars can be delayed so Sisko and his team can have a friendly baseball match in the holosuites
[17:17] <shauno> I went for the high-res screen (not the retina) for 'real estate', rather than moar inches.
[18:36] <penguin42> whats the current nice/easy thing for graphing bandwidth/temperatures/etc ?
[18:36]  * penguin42 wants pretty graphs
[20:23] <foobarry> rrdtool? cacti? graphite?
[20:24] <shauno> mrtg isn't pretty?  ;)
[20:25] <diddledan> just been reading this: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html
[20:25] <diddledan> why does it not shock me any more?
[20:25] <diddledan> I'm like "yeah, of course they were/are" now
[20:26] <diddledan> shauno: <3 mrtg :-p
[20:28] <shauno> if it's true, it kinda plants them firmly in "against us"  :/
[21:07] <directhex> loonicks :D
[21:34] <bigcalm> Moonpigs
[22:04] <diddledan> http://weebls-stuff.com/songs/8-Bit+Amazing+Horse/
[22:08] <shauno> that's not a moonpig?
[22:13] <diddledan> no, it's not
[22:13] <shauno> not the first time you've disappointed me
[22:13] <diddledan> I thought we'd agreed never to mention that again
[22:15] <shauno> ugh, I have to hike to the post depot again :(
[22:16] <shauno> it takes me about an hour to walk there and back.  I got a missed-delivery note through the door on thursday.  hiked out there on friday.  and when I got home, there was another missed-delivery note waiting!
[22:16] <diddledan> >.<
[22:17] <shauno> worst part is, it's dealextreme sending lots of little bits seperately.  so an hour there and back, to discover it's another little $2 gizmo that you forgot buying