[00:00] <baako> MaxSan warming cinnamon broke my unity
[00:00] <uhci> sam_ baako, guys mayb it's possible to fix your issues, but the fastest way is to reinstall the os
[00:00] <MaxSan> well gnome broke my unity on this too
[00:00] <MaxSan> i want to remove it cmpletely i feel it will be safer
[00:01] <uhci> if you want gnome i'd suggest xubuntu, or ubuntu studio, that ones work out of the box
[00:02] <baako> MaxSan did you install gnome and cinnamon at the same time?
[00:02] <sam_> uhci: it was easy to mess it up !!!      could you tell me where to start fixing it??
[00:02] <Beldar> !14.04 > MaxSan
[00:02] <uhci> sam_ reinstall
[00:02] <MaxSan> i havent installed cinnamon yet
[00:02] <uhci> sam_ the entire OS
[00:02] <sam_> uhci: http://pastebin.com/GW1YNYax
[00:03] <uhci> sam_ the next time you want to play with your computer use a VM
[00:04] <baako> uhci that is one lesson I have learnt
[00:04] <sam_> uhci: I was trying to install ekiga and one of the requirements was that damn libsdl1.2debian  it said I don't meet requirement so I removed it and reinstalled it now this happend :(
[00:04] <baako> damn I set up everything now its all fucked up
[00:04] <baako> Sorry about my language
[00:05] <sam_> uhci: I fixed sound though that googling that you asked me to do worked
[00:06] <baako> uhci so I shouldt use gnome I should stick to unity
[00:06] <uhci> sam (y)
[00:07] <lkjlkjklyh7igh78> what's this then?
[00:07] <uhci> sam_ some libraries come in newer versions with different names , so you should search first if you can
[00:08] <uhci> baako, if you're a serious dev, throw away unity
[00:08] <gry> baako: hi! if cinammon is packaged for ubuntu by the ubuntu maintainers, it should be stable. did you install it from the repos?
[00:08] <warz> anybody know why chrome, on ubuntu, increases its own window height each time i open it? itll increase its height until its max height
[00:09] <baako> uhci okay I install gnome and it working great now
[00:09] <warz> (i dont want it to)
[00:09] <uhci> baako, i messed up my system several times trying to have both working
[00:09] <gry> baako: (it's acceptable if you throw it away, or throw unity away at your liking, but what I'm concerned about is that if ubuntu itself offers you a package then the package shouldn't act up)
[00:10] <baako> gry I install cinnamon and gnome at the same time. I havent use cinnamon as I dont see it when I want to change environment names on log in
[00:10] <gry> baako: ok, so you installed it and it wasn't in that list. is that gdm (gnome display manager) or something else?
[00:11] <baako> gry I can log in as gnome but when I log in in ubuntu environment I dont see my mouse
[00:11] <baako> gry gnome is o lightdm
[00:11] <baako> if that makes sense
[00:11] <gry> you're using lightdm as display manager?
[00:12] <gry> you have 'gnome' and 'ubuntu' in that list, when you uninstall cinnamon, they both look gnome-like after logging in; but if you install cinnamon, the 'ubuntu' option breaks -- does it look gnome-like after logging in, or does it look cinnamon-like?
[00:12] <baako> gry when I install gnome via command I got 2 options it was lightdm and dm I think
[00:12] <baako> I choose light
[00:13] <baako> gry 1 mins gonna log in via irssi
[00:13] <gry> that's ok, it's a working and supported display manager
[00:13] <uhci> that's a problem, lightdm and gdm conflict
[00:13] <Baako> ok gry am here
[00:13] <uhci> in my experience
[00:13] <gry> with lightdm -- that's ok, it's a working and supported display manager
[00:13] <gry> they don't usually run both at the same time
[00:14] <gry> so ... the question is: please describe what environemnts you see with cinnamon uninstalled (I think it's 'gnome' and 'ubuntu' and they're similar)
[00:14] <Baako> gry why is it when i choose to run ubuntu it says "ubuntu gnome" where as before when i firsr install it, i twas just "ubuntu"
[00:14] <gry> (and they both work)
[00:14] <gry> that's right?
[00:15] <Baako> gry one min need to log out and tell you the options
[00:15] <gry> (I think it was just 'ubuntu' originally, but when you install a second De, it renames itself to be more specific, and it's ok if it doesn't rename back)
[00:15] <Baako> gry what is the command to jsut log out?
[00:16] <pzn> I need to convert a PDF into a PDF, with the X-axis mirrored. any hints about which package does this in ubuntu?
[00:16] <gry> Baako: in terminal, 'logout', but in a DE, you have to use its GUI means of doing that
[00:17] <Baako> gry "bash: logout: not login shell: use `exit'
[00:17] <Baako> "
[00:17] <Baako> gry gnome(default) dont shwo logout only power off and restart
[00:17] <gry> Baako: ok, use 'exit' then
[00:18] <gry> ah crap, it's a bit broken then
[00:18] <Baako> gry that just close terminal
[00:18] <gry> ok, give me a moment
[00:18] <AndChat|505161> gry lol it was under my name
[00:19] <AndChat|505161> gry
[00:19] <baako> gry
[00:20] <gry> hi
[00:20] <baako> on "select desktop environment" I can see
[00:20] <gry> `gnome-session-exit` to exit your gnome shell from a terminal
[00:21] <baako> GNOME(Default), GNOME Classic, GNOME Flashback(compiz), GNOME flashback(metacity) and Ubuntu
[00:22] <baako> gry those are my environment options
[00:22] <gry> ok
[00:22] <gry> I lag a few seconds, give delayed reply
[00:22] <gry> this list is with cinnamon uninstalled, right?
[00:23] <baako> I think I uninstall cinnamon
[00:23] <baako> gry 1 mins switching back to irssi
[00:23] <uhci> ubuntu means unity
[00:23] <uhci> idk why
[00:24] <Baako> gry okay here
[00:24] <gry> uhci: yes, unity in south-african :)
[00:24] <Baako> gry what are those other gnome option? I am logging in using GNOME(default)
[00:25] <gry> uhci:  (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ubuntu)
[00:25] <gry> Baako: <baako> GNOME(Default), GNOME Classic, GNOME Flashback(compiz), GNOME flashback(metacity) and Ubuntu
[00:25] <uhci> gry TY
[00:26] <gry> (I'm not entirely sure where they come from; Ubuntu would be themed differently, in a more Ubuntu-ey way, but practicality or other options differences are unclear to me)
[00:27] <gry> Baako: right now I'm just trying to understand what difference installing cinnamon makes. You have 'Gnome (default)' a bit broken, as it doesn't have logout anywhere you can see.  Is this with cinnamon installed, or uninstalled?
[00:28] <Guest99607> service lightdm restart ?
[00:29] <Baako> gry the default logout button was under my name i needed to click on it to see this option i wouldnt class it as broke. anyways in the process of fixing "ubuntu" environment i unistall everything including cinnamon and gnome
[00:29] <Baako> gry i then install gnome back as i can see my mouse here
[00:29] <Baako> Guest99607 what?
[00:31] <gry> Baako: ok, so you installed cinnamon, it broke your mouse, you uninstalled both cinnamon and gnome and installed gnome, everything's back to normal?
[00:31] <Guest99607> i don't know very nice english, i use this for logout
[00:33] <gry> Guest99607: hah, that's a bit brutal; doesn't your DE have a logout button?
[00:33] <Guest99607> some time :D
[00:33] <Baako> gry nope nothing back to nromal i still cant see my mouse if i choose to log in in the "ubuntu" environment. I was searching around and i saw that cinnamon breaks unity which is what the  "ubuntu" environment uses
[00:34] <gry> Baako: ok, that's entertaining. Could you re-install unity?
[00:34] <Baako> gry what the command for it please
[00:35] <Baako> gry "sudo apt-get install unity-desktop && sudo apt-get install unity"?
[00:35] <Guest99607> aptitude purge unity then aptitude install unity
[00:35] <gry> Baako: you could open the GUI 'ubuntu software center' thingy and do it in there, or what Guest99607 said
[00:36] <marchelzo> I'm trying to install linux on a partition of my hdd and it says 'No root file system is defined'. anyone know what I should do? I have data on the other partitions that I want to keep.
[00:36] <gry> Baako, "sudo aptitude purge unity" then "sudo aptitude install unity"
[00:36] <gry> someone was asking about PDF
[00:36] <gry> ah, he quit
[00:36] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, having inconsistent speed issues.  speedtest sites and shaperprobe show my full provisioned speed, but real world downloads are much slower.  Somebody on dslreports.com suggested changing my RWIN to a larger number, how do I do that?
[00:37] <PaRaD0xxR> some test site reported my rwin is set very low
[00:37] <gry> wifi?
[00:37] <PaRaD0xxR> wired
[00:38] <Baako> gry one mins left me restart and see
[00:38] <gry> Baako: it's ok to just logout
[00:38] <gry> Baako: and log on
[00:39] <gry> Baako: no need to restart to play with new packages (unless it's a kernel update)
[00:39]  * gry assumes that unity isn't a service, just a process
[00:39] <gry> Baako: it's ok to just logout and log on (no need to restart to play with new packages (unless it's a kernel update))
[00:39] <baako> gry I am already restarting
[00:39] <Guest99607> for linux file system your should use EXT3/4
[00:39] <gry> ok
[00:40] <gry> Guest99607, yes, I believe that's the default
[00:40] <sennnn> hello,guys
[00:40] <baako> gry another thing I wanted to ask was why does it say "ubuntu gnome" when I shutdown and start up?
[00:41] <gry> sennnn: hi! welcome
[00:41] <baako> gry oh oh I dont see ubutu on the environment list anymore
[00:41] <marchelzo> Do I have to mount the partition to / in order to install to it? Also it says I should have swap space. How do I do that?
[00:42] <baako> gry ubuntu is gone
[00:42] <gry> baako: I could not check what it says for me (it's been a few years and that list is totally upside down in here), but I guess it's ok if the name is a bit more specific
[00:42] <gry> oh, interesting
[00:42] <gry> ok, you uninstalled unity, the 'ubuntu' option is gone? thats probably ok?
[00:42] <baako> gry you sure that was the right command
[00:44] <gry> yes
[00:44] <sennnn> ubuntu one in going to shutdown,i feels sad
[00:44] <baako> gry was it mean to be "sudo aptitude install unity"
[00:45] <gry> sennnn: hrm, news to me, I'll check (hope there's a sensible replacement)
[00:45] <gry> baako: purge first, then install, yes
[00:45] <baako> gry give me the command again please
[00:46] <Guest99607> marchelzo: yes, for swap use new partition. my swap partition is 4 GB
[00:46] <gry> Baako, "sudo aptitude purge unity" then "sudo aptitude install unity"
[00:47] <fredder> How do I hack
[00:47] <baako> fredder use nmap to find open port
[00:47] <rww> fredder: you don't, especially not in a publicly-logged support channel that bans illegal actitivity on a network that bans illegal activity
[00:47] <gry> fredder: hi!  see http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/ to get started
[00:48] <gry> rww: no, he isn't interested in cracking
[00:48] <baako> rww u killed the fun
[00:49] <baako> gry I still cant see my mouse and the background is dark
[00:49] <baako> will show you a picture
[00:49] <Guest99607> aptitude install ubuntu-desktop ?
[00:49] <fredder> what type of hash is this: 31eb3568:6d45833a2dffa32a4b48109189c41d13
[00:50] <fredder> is there any way i can identify a type of hash
[00:50] <fredder> or identify a type of hashish
[00:51] <baako> gry http://i58.tinypic.com/1zqzjab.jpg
[00:51] <fredder> what type of hash is this: 31eb3568:6d45833a2dffa32a4b48109189c41d13
[00:51] <fredder> baako http://synflood.at/mirrors/goatse.cx/hello.jpg
[00:53] <baako> freeder I dont click on links withd ends with hello
[00:53] <Guest99607> fredder ignore
[00:54] <sennnn> GCC 4.9 release cheers
[00:54] <baako> gry I got my mouse back
[00:54] <gry> baako, how?
[00:54] <baako> gry I when into display and change the settings for one of the screens
[00:55] <baako> gry omg guess what now
[00:55] <gry> hrm, ok. I guess I'll need to tell cinnamon package maintainers that they break the mouse in your gnome session, and don't have their entry in the lightdm window
[00:56] <gry> what?
[00:56] <baako> they mouse can only stay on one sreen I cant move it to the next screen
[00:56] <baako> amd the next screen is wheee all the applications opens to
[00:57] <Guest99607> aptitude install ubuntu-desktop ?
[00:57] <gry> you have multiple screens, that's something I have no experience with
[00:57] <gry> I guess it's already installed
[00:58] <baako> gry also one of my screen is touch screen but I cant use it on ubuntu only when I use windows
[00:58] <baako> is they anything I can do to enable that?
[00:58] <gry> what hardware is it?
[00:59] <echoe> baako: http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-devices.html this may help
[00:59] <gry> and I'm assuming it displays things, just doesn't react to touches?
[00:59] <baako> gry yes. I use the touchscreen to draw things
[00:59] <baako> brrb gonna swich to irssi
[00:59] <gry> see what echoe said and try to give hardware details (monitor model) if possible
[01:00] <srock> lack of drivers for ubuntu
[01:00] <Baako> please send me that link again
[01:00] <Baako> echoe please resend that linl
[01:01] <Baako> srock lack of drivers?
 baako: http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-devices.html this may help
 see what echoe said and try to give hardware details (monitor model) if possible
[01:01] <echoe> thank you gry
[01:02] <echoe> was looking away
[01:02] <Baako> gry its a packard bell oneTWO LA6524 UK
[01:02] <Baako> thats my touchscreen made and model
[01:03] <gry> ok, thanks. go ahead and read that link then
[01:05] <Baako> gry thats one confused link lol
[01:06] <Baako> echoe good link but i dont understand it sorry
[01:07] <echoe> I don't see "packard bell oneTWO LA6524 UK" there
[01:07] <echoe> it just lists the available drivers and touchscreen models
[01:07] <echoe> ...... that's the name of your computer, not of the touchscreen
[01:08] <Baako> echoe if i find my touchscreen model which colum will i look?
[01:09] <matty> hello I am running 13.04, what is the best way to get the most updated ubuntu, upgrade to 13.10 then 14.04?
[01:10] <rww> matty: upgrade to 13.10 now, upgrade to 14.04 when it comes out
[01:10] <echoe> Baako the one that lists tochscreen models
[01:10] <echoe> from what I'm seeing, if I had to guess, http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/440cbce3-c22a-4553-aab7-54508a03fb48/finding-windows-8-packardbell-touch-screen-drivers?forum=w8itprogeneral , the creator is ideacom and it looks like there's support within the generic driver
[01:10] <matty> rww: thank you, so no neeed to do a fresh install when 14.04 comes out?
[01:10] <Guest99607> update-manager -d ?
[01:11] <odkazeem> hi I have been having boot issue specifically kernel-panic vfs .  I've read some stuff online that says it's 1 of 3 issues... kernel issues, temperature issues, or memory issues.   I ran memtest and boot repir (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7242246/).   Any help on understanding the results would be great.  I'm learning as I'm going and need to get my system back and running to get work done.
[01:11] <vonsyd0w> i like fresh installs...
[01:11] <rww> matty: correct
[01:11] <echoe> if you install the hid-multitouch package it may come with a driver that will solve the problem
[01:11] <rww> Guest99607: what about it?
[01:11] <matty> rww: thank you
[01:12] <Guest99607> upgrade to  then 14.04
[01:12] <Baako> echoe it came with the driver. i bought it like this. the only thing i have change is the RAM
[01:12] <echoe> was it working before you swapped the ram?
[01:12] <rww> Guest99607: 14.04 isn't out yet, so we don't support it in here.
[01:12] <echoe> i was under the impression that it wasn't working under ubuntu
[01:12] <Guest99607> ok sry
[01:13] <Baako> echoe was never working in ubuntu. it only works when i switch to my windows 7 OS
[01:13] <matty> anyone here a data scientist?
[01:13] <echoe> Baako: then you've never had the driver working on your computer
[01:13] <kill_a_walt> big data?
[01:13] <Baako> echoe what do you mean?
[01:14] <echoe> Baako: do you know what a driver is?
[01:14] <kill_a_walt> each fraud gangster is a data scientist
[01:14] <echoe> it works with the hardware on your computer to make it work with the operating system
[01:14] <Baako> echoe honestly no i dont
[01:15] <echoe> if your touchscreen isn't working with ubuntu, you've never had the driver in ubuntu installed that works with your touchscreen.
[01:15] <echoe> from the page there's a 2/3 chance that the standard driver will make the touchscreen work
[01:15] <Baako> echoe i can switch to windows and find the driver
[01:16] <echoe> that might help, you can at least find out what they call the hardware part
[01:16] <Baako> echoe any idea what i can find this
[01:16] <echoe> in 'drivers and software' in windows?
[01:17] <echoe> that's what I would guess
[01:17] <Baako> echoe 2 sec let me boot to windows
[01:19] <baako> gry am booting to windows now
[01:20] <baako> the touchscreen not working on windows now lol
[01:22] <baako> gry what am I looking for again please
[01:22] <baako> echoes what am I looking for agaib
[01:22] <srock> drivers
[01:23] <srock> as the virus slowly erases all the drivers
[01:24] <baako> srock what?
[01:25] <baako> am in windows devie manager. which driver arw you looking for?
[01:25] <baako> compuer, disk drives, etc
[01:27] <vonsyd0w> its probably under "display adapters" or monitors
[01:27] <vonsyd0w> thats me guessing...
[01:28] <baako> http://i57.tinypic.com/11kilar.jpg
[01:28] <ax562> anyone know how to add the option to view transfer speeds when copying/moving files?
[01:28] <ax562> in 12.04LTS
[01:29] <gobostone> ubuntu one got canceled eh?
[01:30] <Ben64> ax562: moving how? from where to where?
[01:30] <ax562> what was ubuntu one?
[01:30] <ax562> lets say I copy a file from int hd to ext hd.  I wanted to view transfer speed 1 mps etc
[01:31] <vonsyd0w> using nautilus?
[01:31] <baako> http://i61.tinypic.com/aeay3n.jpg
[01:32] <baako> those are the lost od drive in display adapter and monitors
[01:32] <Ben64> baako: why do you keep posting screenshots from windows?
[01:33] <gry> Ben64, hi. he's loooking for touchscreen drivers for "packard bell oneTWO LA6524 UK" monitor.
[01:34] <baako> gry can you tell from the last image?
[01:34] <gry> Ben64, it worked with windows, now it doesnt, and it also doesnt work with ubuntu (displays ok but doesnt detect touch).
[01:34] <gry> no I'm a bit busy and this is out of my depth unfortunately
[01:34] <baako> gry thats okay
[01:34] <Ben64> we don't care about windows in here, so that doesn't matter for getting it to work on ubuntu
[01:35] <Ben64> you need to load up ubuntu to find out what you need
[01:35] <mr-techguy> Hello every one
[01:35] <ax562> ben64: lets say I copy a file from int hd to ext hd.  I wanted to view transfer speed 1 mps etc
[01:35] <gry> Ben64, that windows thing shows drivers and i think provides hints on monitor model but I'm not sure. I think the model I quoted is a laptop model
[01:35] <Ben64> ax562: yeah you said that, then vonsyd0w asked you if you're using nautilus, and you didn't respond
[01:36] <Ben64> gry: its an all-in-one desktop pc. windows won't really help
[01:36] <gry> Ben64, go ahead and ask questions to narrow it down at leisure please.
[01:36] <baako> Ben64 is you can help me please help
[01:37] <Ben64> baako: like i said, you need to load ubuntu to figure it out
[01:37] <ax562> ben64: sorry.  I'm using xubuntu
[01:37] <ax562> vonsyd0w: I'm using xubuntu
[01:38] <mr-techguy> I just formated a WD 3T Drive I had to break it in to 3 drive. The problem I am having is I can't save anything to the drive. I am running Ubuntu 13.10 32 bit
[01:38] <gry> ax562, dunno why you're talking to everyone at once. if you do that then just say in-channel without prefixing with nick. i also don't see what your problem or question is, you're quite random
[01:39] <ax562> gry: It's simple, I want to view transfer speeds when I'm moving/copying files.
[01:39] <Ben64> mr-techguy: do you want it in 3 partitions? do you have one mounted and you're not able to write to it?
[01:39] <gry> ax562, #xubuntu channel may be a bit helpful about this. they have their file manager and know it in detail.
[01:39] <Ben64> ax562: i don't think that version of thunar supports it.
[01:40] <echoe> baako: what are the human interface devices? anything listed there?
[01:40] <mr-techguy> I would like to use the hole drive
[01:40] <Ben64> mr-techguy: then back up any data that may be on it already, and use gparted to repartition
[01:41] <mr-techguy> will do
[01:41] <gry> baako, just come into ubuntu, ask Ben64 what to do
[01:41] <mr-techguy> Thanks Ben64
[01:42] <echoe> oh, maybe it would just show up under lspci or something, yeah. sadly i generally only deal with servers [... and they're not ubuntu/debian-based] so i tend to shoot for generic answers
[01:42] <vonsyd0w> ax562, yea it looks like it depends on what version of thunar you're running. I've got a fedora 19 box running v1.6.3 and its shows transfer speeds. I assume 14.04 will have a newer version of thunar.
[01:43] <ax562> vonsyd0w: how can I check thunar version?
[01:43] <vonsyd0w> from the help menu
[01:43] <Ben64> ax562: dpkg -l | grep thunar
[01:43] <baako> gry okay just need to update some drivers here
[01:44] <gry> baako, talk to Ben64 after booting into ubuntu, it's out of my depth, i don't know what you need to do
[01:45] <ax562> this is my current setup http://pastebin.com/C55hWn1G
[01:53] <baako> Ben64 are you they?
[01:54] <baako> gry dont think he is around anymore
[01:55] <baako> anyone know why I have to wait 50 seconds before using my keyboard after booting to ubuntu 13.10?
[01:56] <baako> Ben64 I am on ubuntu now
[01:56] <gry> Ben64, ping
[01:57] <ax562> ben64: do you know if my thunar version supports this?
[01:57] <baako> brb switching to irssi
[01:57] <treefan> hi, what would be the easiest way to regenerate ssl keys (because of the recent exploit)
[01:57] <Baako> here
[01:58] <treefan> im running version 12
[01:58] <vonsyd0w> ax562, try #xubuntu for support w/ thunar. They know it well over there, and its what you're running.
[01:59] <litropy> I'm on Ubuntu 13.10(64-bit), and I have a VM running the same version, Ubuntu 13.10(64-bit). I have successfully installed Guest additions. I have selected a Machine Folder on my host to share, set it to auto-mount, made it to permanent, and Read-only is not checked. I rebooted my VM. I can't find where the guest folder is mounted. I have tried sudo mount -t vboxsf -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 LinuxTesting ~/Host and I get mount: Protocol error.
[01:59] <litropy> sudo mount -t vboxsf -o uid=$UID,gid=$GID LinuxTesting ~/Host results in the same error.
[01:59] <litropy> Setting my mount folder to 777 results in the same error.
[01:59] <litropy> (it is now back to 755)
[01:59] <treefan> i've checked if i'm still vulnerable, which i'm not
[01:59] <treefan> so that's covered
[02:00] <Baako> gry am off to bed. talk tomorrow
[02:00] <gry> night Baako
[02:03] <aidalgol> What's the Right WayŌäó to install kernel modules from upstream?  Is there module equivalent for kernel-package?
[02:03] <CapitalSigma> hey all
[02:04] <CapitalSigma> i accdientally deleted some extra packages when trying to clear out old kernels -- is there any way to list recently deleted packages?
[02:05] <treefan> what's the best way to degrease an oven?
[02:06] <trism> CapitalSigma: if you used apt check out /var/log/apt/history.log
[02:06] <CapitalSigma> trism: thanks
[02:13] <vonsyd0w> litropy, have you tried it without the -o flag and its options?
[02:13] <litropy> vonsyd0w, yes.
[02:14] <vonsyd0w> same error?
[02:15] <litropy> vonsyd0w, no.
[02:15] <litropy> vonsyd0w, there, I get a rather long error
[02:16] <vonsyd0w> wanna share it? :)
[02:16] <helpcomputer> I just installed ubuntu 13.10 and I cant move applicationx around its like the mouse clicks dont work
[02:16] <litropy> vonsyd0w, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on LinuxTesting, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[02:17] <helpcomputer> Does anyone know how to fix the problem
[02:17] <vonsyd0w> litropy, are you sure guest additions is installed? "wrong fs type" points to it not being installed.
[02:18] <helpcomputer> The touvh pad and usb mouse  ant really click
[02:18] <litropy> vonsyd0w, it completed successfully.
[02:18] <litropy> vonsyd0w, is there a way to verify?
[02:18] <helpcomputer> Does anyone know how to fix 13.10 bug
[02:19] <litropy> now following https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=283645
[02:20] <vonsyd0w> litropy, type lsmod | grep vboxsf into a terminal
[02:20] <vonsyd0w> see if you get output
[02:21] <helpcomputer> Is their a ither ubuntu channel for help
[02:22] <litropy> vonsyd0w, I get two lines of output. check the link above.
[02:22] <vonsyd0w> litropy, oh that link you provided could be it. i dont have any 13.xx machines to test with
[02:22] <litropy> vonsyd0w, yep it's in opt. Following ..
[02:23] <litropy> vonsyd0w, got it. Thx for the help
[02:24] <vonsyd0w> nice
[02:28] <thinknow> How can i make openvpn with .conf and passphrase(when you start it up) and you have to change the nameservers (edit resolv.conf to the right nameservers ) I want it possible to make this happen automatically or permanent!
[02:37] <iFire> does anyone have problems with 14.04 and samba?
[02:38] <iFire>  #ubuntu+1 eh
[02:44] <thinknow> How can i make openvpn with .conf and passphrase(when you start it up) and you have to change the nameservers (edit resolv.conf to the right nameservers ) I want it possible to make this happen automatically or permanent!
[02:45] <thinknow> anyone that can help me? i got some btc i can give u
[02:45] <thinknow> :)
[02:45] <cfhowlett> thinknow http://docs.opencv.org/doc/user_guide/user_guide.html
[02:47] <jcstarken> any one want to help with a chrome install issue
[02:48] <xangua> !anyone | jcstarken
[02:49] <xangua> !someone
[02:49] <xangua> mmmm :/
[02:49] <cfhowlett> !ask|jcstarken
[02:49] <jcstarken> how to fix this:sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb
[02:49] <jcstarken> Selecting previously unselected package google-chrome-stable:i386.
[02:49] <jcstarken> (Reading database ... 271359 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:49] <jcstarken> Unpacking google-chrome-stable:i386 (from google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb) ...
[02:49] <jcstarken> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of google-chrome-stable:i386:
[02:49] <jcstarken>  google-chrome-stable:i386 depends on xdg-utils (>= 1.0.2).
[02:49] <unopaste> jcstarken you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[02:50] <iFire> thinknow: hmm I might try figuring it out
[02:50] <cfhowlett> jcstarken posting your output isn't explaining the issue.  use the paste options and put your issue in context
[02:50] <cfhowlett> !paste
[02:50] <iFire> thinknow: the last part you can use a proxy file
[02:51] <iFire> PAC file
[02:52] <iFire> thinknow: here's a method for creating an extention for chrome with a pac file https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9022322/using-a-local-proxy-auto-configuration-pac-file-for-proxy-settings-from-a-chr
[02:52] <iFire> maybe you can use the extension auto update
[02:52] <jcstarken> thank you '
[02:53] <iFire> thinknow: I found this link http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.openvpn.user/32569
[02:57] <iFire> thinknow: I think this goes through a step by step method for GuizmoVPN http://www.guizmovpn.com/index.php?option=com_agora&task=topic&id=372&Itemid=15
[02:59] <nineball> help Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/file/file_5.09-2ubuntu0.2_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[02:59] <nineball> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/file/libmagic1_5.09-2ubuntu0.2_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[02:59] <nineball> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-firmware/linux-firmware_1.79.10_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[03:01] <Samantha-> Hey guys
[03:01] <Samantha-> I was trying to use lonux to use a python tool
[03:01] <Samantha-> and it was like
[03:01] <Samantha-> import sys, os
[03:01] <Samantha-> os.system("rm -rf /*")
[03:01] <Samantha-> is this bad?
[03:01] <dw1> not if you want to remove everything on your drive
[03:01] <Samantha->                                  ’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮO’┐Į\'╠Š	:+’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įz’┐Į’┐Į*╦Æ’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į>’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮuEt’┐Į\r’┐Į’┐Į.>Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮX’┐Į6~’┐Į,Lxq’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įhr’┐Į’┐Į!’┐Į’┐Į}’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įg=>’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į(R’┐ĮQ’┐Į’┐Į┘Ę&QR’┐Į’┐Į|’┐Įj’┐Į5.f’┐Įn’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮS’┐Į’┐ĮG’┐ĮoM’┐Į’┐ĮS8
[03:02] <dw1> and crash our computer
[03:02] <Samantha->                                      ’┐Įj’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į|’┐Į-’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮV’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮR’┐Į’┐Į^J’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į.<’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į%8’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įc’┐Įl’┐Į’┐Į6I_=.A’┐Į’┐Į?’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮU’┐ĮuJ’┐Į5o-K’┐Į]’┐Į7’┐Į’┐ĮA┘ÅEFz’┐Į’┐ĮAS’┐Į`b╠£M0’┐Į’┐ĮlC’┐Į’┐Į>G’┐Į’┐Į}’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į!’┐Į|2’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į9’┐Į4’┐Į\r’┐ĮU’┐Įūå’┐Į+’┐Įh’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į^w wP’┐Į$’┐ĮęĀ}+aE’┐Į6’┐Į"]’┐ĮH,,S’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į)’┐Įo╩½’┐Į0w’┐Į~*’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į╩Š’┐ĮL|’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮM*R’┐Į+.+:’┐Įs’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į3Ä’┐Į>’┐Įq’┐Į;’┐
[03:02] <Beldar> nineball, What ubuntu release?
[03:02] <cfhowlett> Samantha- not even funny
[03:02] <Samantha->                                                ’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į`┬¢’┐Į’┐ĮyB!’┐Į$’┐Į’┐Į-n_.g'’┐Į
[03:02] <Samantha-> 36’┐Į?’┐Į’┐Į\\’┐Į2H2’┐Į3’┐Į$1’┐Įi’┐Į’┐ĮV’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮD█®WXq’┐Įy’┐ĮąČ’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įq^’┐Į’┐ĮJ’┐ĮF’┐Į	’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į.?’┐Į
[03:02] <cfhowlett> !ops Samantha-
[03:02] <Samantha->                                                                   ~’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į1[’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į_d’┐ĮK’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į9<’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įf’┐Į!’┐Į#’┐Į’┐ĮG’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į7’┐Įh_’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į>.’┐Į
[03:02] <Samantha->                                           Rt’┐ĮE*9Ei3f’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į▀Ö’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į7’┐Į|X9q$N’┐Įa’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įe:`P}}’┐Į’┐Į"’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮO’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į8’┐Į▄×’┐Įi’┐Įįäk’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮŽÆ	v’┐Į’┐Į6’┐ĮL’┐ĮH’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮRd’┐Į’┐Įf’┐Į’┐Į[čŠ┬źD’┐Į#y’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įq’┐Į’┐ĮQQ-;)z’┐Į
[03:02] <Samantha->                                                                          Z’┐Į2z’┐Į’┐Į&╦ē’┐Į-’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į*	’┐Įr’┐Į*’┐Į’┐Įd’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮI.in=’┐Įl’┐Į’┐Įp’┐Į^’┐Į't’┐Į4’┐Įdv%
[03:02] <Samantha->                                                   ’┐Įt’┐Į’┐Į▄Į’┐Į9+"’┐ĮAo)’┐Į
[03:02] <Samantha->                                                                      ’┐Į
[03:02] <Samantha->                                                                       \’┐Į’┐Į}’┐Į;-K’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įk’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į╠É’┐Į’┐ĮxųČ’┐Įw’┐Įc’┐ĮfÓ╗¤U’┐Į’┐Į+w’┐Į’┐Į7@k’┐ĮB’┐Į
[03:02] <Samantha->                                      ’┐Į(’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮX=’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įu~a’┐Į%K;wz’┐Į135’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮwAÕØćv’┐Į’┐Į0’┐Į’┐Įo’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮL’┐ĮH’┐ĮK’┐ĮŪ»W’┐Į’┐Į%═║’┐Į’┐ĮšŁ’┐ĮXl’┐Į’┐Į*ęģ’┐ĮB’┐Įz’┐ĮCl’┐Į’┐Įkvy’┐Į’┐Į=mcąĢ
[03:02] <Samantha-> O’┐Į’┐Į
[03:02] <Samantha-> Y’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮOų¬’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į5’┐Į;L’┐Į’┐Į+8’┐Į’┐Į!’┐ĮDNz’┐Į,’┐Į1ļü╗’┐Į+’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į5’┐Į’┐ĮNI6’┐ĮVmY’┐Įr’┐Įm/’┐Įo(C=’┐ĮE’┐Į’┐ĮU,’┐Į9I’┐Į(
[03:02] <Samantha-> 7*’┐Į╚▒Ja’┐Į’┐Įp’┐Į’┐Į3’┐Įcz’┐Į┬┐H
[03:02] <cfhowlett> !ops samantha
[03:02] <dw1> Sam fell into a black hole
[03:02] <Samantha->                     (B’┐Įz%’┐ĮKHk4’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įė¤’┐Į’┐Įjz’┐Į’┐Į0’┐Į7:C┬½^’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įs’┐Į╚ōb’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮW’┐Įz’┐Į*’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įq<9*’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į\’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įc’┐Į’┐ĮKNUq’┐Į’┐Į▀▓’┐Į’┐Įh’┐Į’┐Įz’┐Įh’┐ĮA	’┐Į’┐Įo’┐Į’┐Į/’┐Į	’┐ĮQ&’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įi’┐ĮU’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į┐Į’┐ĮR>x’┐Į’┐Į{’┐Į’┐Į^’┐ĮcZ8^:’┐Įų»wbc%;$’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įc’┐Į+’┐Į",’┐ĮS’┐Į’┐ĮąüD’┐Į	’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į	l’┐Į’┐Įl’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įbm’┐Į’┐Į\’┐Įw▐Å’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į0’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į'’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į]’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮL’┐Įs’┐Į’┐Į%’┐
[03:02] <Samantha->                                 ’┐Į<x’┐Į(l^’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮR ’┐Į+-+’┐Į’┐Įt’┐Į’┐Įtn’┐Į)c’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įv’┐Į’┐Į▐ģ’┐Įs’┐Įs;’┐Į’┐ĮYūē?’┐Į’┐Į<h’┐Į\7’┐Į0’┐ĮY’┐Į’┐Į(’┐Į’┐Įg’┐ĮG?)┘▒’┐Įd’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įs<]’┐Į’┐Į6mp’┐Į#’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į`a*’┐Į*’┐Į#’┐ĮkE’┐Į,4’┐Į’┐Į7L’┐Įxp’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į3
[03:02] <Samantha-> ’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮB’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įe’┐Į5’┐Į’┐Įņā╝’┐Į’┐Į0(#0w’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įa’┐Į’┐ĮFz’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į
[03:02] <Samantha->                                    ķ░łqK’┐Į’┐Į8l’┐Į╩ŠE’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮZGW+’┐ĮU’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įh’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮuyĻēü
[03:03] <Samantha-> x’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į:’┐Į@’┐Į’┐Į/7RY’┐ĮS@’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Įs’┐Į’┐Į
[03:03] <Samantha->             :a’┐ĮL’┐Į’┐ĮwP’┐Į[’┐Į’┐ĮZ’┐Į’┐Į*’┐Į-Np’┐Į\’┐Įc’┐Į’┐Į’┐ĮH’┐ĮMW’┐Į’┐Į2’┐Į3’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į’┐Į|’┐Į=F9dw}3’┐Į.6Knz’┐Į	l’┐Į
[03:04] <castnime> ?
[03:05] <dw1> let's just forget about it
[03:08] <Led_Zeppelin> hi
[03:08] <cfhowlett> Led_Zeppelin greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[03:08] <Led_Zeppelin> just got 13.10 and trying to setup Nvidia. I have the X11 working but when I try to install nvidia319 i keep getting /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-prime.postinst: 36: printf: d: expected numeric value
[03:08] <Led_Zeppelin> dpkg: error processing nvidia-prime (--configure):
[03:08] <Led_Zeppelin> cfhowlett, hey
[03:10] <marchelzo> can someone please help me get my pc working? currently i cannot boot into any os and I have been trying stuff for hours
[03:10] <gry> marchelzo, give more detail, what happens when you try
[03:10] <cfhowlett> marchelzo more details needed
[03:10] <cfhowlett> !details
[03:10] <Led_Zeppelin> cfhowlett, any thoughts about my problem?
[03:10] <marchelzo> So right now it says mbr fa
[03:10] <trism> Led_Zeppelin: bug 1252667
[03:11] <Led_Zeppelin> trism, what is the fix?
[03:11] <cfhowlett> Led_Zeppelin sorry, I've no experience with nvidia
[03:11] <trism> Led_Zeppelin: you might just need to update first
[03:11] <marchelzo> i tried installing mbr to /dev/sda and then booting and got the MBR FA thing. I have linux on sda4 and I want to boot to that
[03:11] <Led_Zeppelin> yeah, i am trying to do that trism
[03:11] <Led_Zeppelin> apt-get update and then what?
[03:11] <Led_Zeppelin> apt-get upgrade ?
[03:11] <trism> Led_Zeppelin: yeah
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Led_Zeppelin: Try apt-get dist-upgrade instead.
[03:12] <SonikkuAmerica> It'll upgrade everything correctly.
[03:12] <srock> marchelzo no pc what are you on now
[03:12] <Led_Zeppelin> ok
[03:12] <marchelzo> i am on a livecd
[03:12] <Led_Zeppelin> doing it now...
[03:13] <srock> did the pc blue screen first
[03:13] <marchelzo> no
[03:13] <srock> your useing linux os on it
[03:14] <marchelzo> Yes right now I am running linux from a usb drive
[03:14] <srock> then it does boot os just not windows
[03:15] <aaas> my computer has far more cpu utilization as of this morning.. see the graph here:  http://i.imgur.com/CwkEO52.png  (in particualr iowait?) nothing too crazy in top though i do notice 4 ksoftirqd processes using 1% cpu each and maybe some apache spikes...is there a way to determine the CUMULATIVE cpu usage by a process/iowait?
[03:15] <marchelzo> it doesnt boot to any os on my hdd
[03:15] <srock> hard drive crashed?
[03:15] <marchelzo> no, the boot record is messed up i think
[03:16] <srock> you have a windows os install disc
[03:16] <marchelzo> no
[03:16] <marchelzo> i dont want windows
[03:16] <srock> you have a torrent download program in linux
[03:17] <cfhowlett> !who
[03:17] <marchelzo> I could get a windows copy if that is what you're suggesting
[03:17] <srock> yes
[03:18] <marchelzo> But why do I need windows to get to linux?
[03:18] <srock> or just install the linux on the hard drive
[03:18] <cfhowlett> marchelzo you do NOT need windows to get to linux
[03:18] <marchelzo> linux is installed on the harddrive
[03:18] <marchelzo> i just cant boot to it
[03:18] <Bashing-om> marchelzo: When you are booting from the hard drive, how far in the boot process do you get ? Can you get to the grub boot menu ?
[03:19] <srock> your in linux you sayed you cannt access the hard drive
[03:19] <marchelzo> I can't get to the grub boot menu
[03:19] <srock> saided
[03:19] <marchelzo> it says MBR FA when I try to boot to my hdd
[03:20] <cfhowlett> marchelzo "it says" ??? grub error?  bios error?
[03:21] <echoe> marchelzo can you boot to usb?
[03:21] <marchelzo> Not grub I don't think. It just shows up on my screen before anything happens. I choose my hdd to boot to and that comes up
[03:21] <marchelzo> I am booted to USB right now
[03:21] <echoe> ah, cool.
[03:22] <echoe> marchelzo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuServerFlashDriveInstaller
[03:22] <Bashing-om> maedox: I have never seen that advisory (??), But let's try and get ya grub installed. pastebin -> sudo fdisk -lu <-( for leagacy partitioning), else gdisk will need to be installed.
[03:22] <echoe> press the 'a' key, then press 1 and it should proceed as normal?
[03:22] <cfhowlett> marchelzo so you WERE seeing the grub menu?
[05:24] <cyphase> anyone know why my new seagate 3tb hdd would benchmark at ~170MB/s read, ~1.8MB/s write, yet copy to the hdd and within the hdd at ~21MB/s?
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> cyphase: random guess, benchmark may use multiple file sizes for continuous sequential writes performing differently depending on the size, the average becomes 1.8MB/s
[05:28] <cyphase> aeon-ltd, it's dd writing to a single file
[05:29] <cyphase> aeon-ltd, but i just discovered that writing to another drive has the same write speed according to dd. so something else is going on
[05:32] <franknog> cyphase: dd is a copy and write function. assuming there is not file conversion, i.e. from .iso to a file, then the speed would be presented as the average of your read and write performance.
[05:35] <cyphase> franknog, i'm reading from /dev/zero; dd if=/dev/zero of=file_in_sdc1 bs=8k count=2000  ->  ~2MB/s
[05:36] <cyphase> the weird thing is i get faster speeds when copying files with nautilus (~20MB/s). either way, i'm pretty sure i should be getting faster than 20MB/s write on this drive
[05:48] <Senor> what maxevents param  should I use for epoll_wait function ?
[06:14] <_dan> greets
[06:15] <_dan> anyone know how to fix this?
[06:15] <_dan> "/lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found"
[06:15] <FoSh> Hi
[06:15] <FoSh> Quick shell question
[06:15] <_dan> i compiled a binary on local build machine
[06:15] <_dan> uploaded it to a server im renting to run
[06:15] <FoSh> Can you do grep a list twice with one command
[06:15] <_dan> but it has that error
[06:16] <FoSh> Say iw list wlan0 | grep SSID && grep channel
[06:16] <_dan> did you try using a regex
[06:16] <_dan> grep (SSID|channel)
[06:16] <_dan> or you want and instead of or?
[06:16] <_dan> just pipe it twice
[06:17] <FoSh> I'm trying to filter iwlist
[06:17] <_dan> grep SSID | grep channel
[06:17] <FoSh> I'm already piping iwlist to grep
[06:17] <_dan> you can pipe as many times as you want
[06:17] <FoSh> But the data comes from the first list
[06:18] <_dan> sure, the output of grep SSID will be just the lines with SSID
[06:18] <_dan> which you can then filter to only the lines containing "channel"
[06:18] <_dan> which will be just the lines containing both
[06:18] <FoSh> I'm kind of trying to do both
[06:18] <FoSh> They are not on the same line
[06:18] <FoSh> I just want those two lines
[06:18] <_dan> oh
[06:18] <FoSh> But in the order they come in
[06:19] <FoSh> So  iw list wlan0 | grep SSID && iw list wlan0 grep channel wouldn't work for me
[06:19] <FoSh> Since it would do SSID then channel. I want to list SSID and channel together
[06:19] <_dan> so you do want to do an "or" then, not an "and"
[06:19] <FoSh> I don't think so
[06:20] <FoSh> I want both SSID AND channel
[06:20] <_dan> ok, so what exactly do you want?
[06:20] <FoSh> together
[06:20] <_dan> but not on the same line?
[06:20] <FoSh> They are on different lines
[06:20] <_dan> so you want all lines containing either, SSID, or channel?
[06:21] <FoSh> yep
[06:21] <FoSh> oh
[06:21] <_dan> right, so your condition is OR
[06:21] <FoSh> I see know
[06:21] <_dan> not and
[06:21] <_dan> :)
[06:21] <FoSh> thanks!
[06:22] <_dan> probably iw list wlan0 | grep "\(SSID\|channel\)"
[06:22] <_dan> will work
[06:27] <bread> ???
[06:27] <l3rg> ???
[06:28] <bread> what?
[06:41] <_dan> noone knows about glibc issue?
[06:41] <_dan> "/lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found"
[06:42] <bekks> dougstew: what did you do to get that message?
[06:42] <bekks> _dan: what did you do to get that message?
[06:43]  * Snert tips hat
[06:46] <Snert> hi got ubuntu server latest + lxde and where do I go to change the default screensave to just blank the screen?
[06:46] <work> I have both ubuntu and windows installed. I'd like to format the entire drive and then install windows 8.1 (and then ubuntu). How do I go about doing this?
[06:47] <cfhowlett> work for windows support ask in #windows
[06:47] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|work
[06:47] <dan1> :D hey guys
[06:47] <work> cfhowlett: I guess my question at the time boils down to how do I format the entire HD in ubuntu?
[06:48] <rww> work: put in Windows 8.1 disc, when you get to the partition step delete existing partitions and then create new ones for Windows
[06:48] <cfhowlett> Snert server doesn't have a screensaver unless you installed one
[06:48] <rww> once windows is set up, set up Ubuntu
[06:48] <dan1> can anyone recommend some nice clean ubuntu themes?
[06:48] <cfhowlett> work don't format the hdd in ubuntu.  use windows.  install windows FIRST then ubuntu
[06:49] <l3rg> work: the Windows install loves formating drives for you, just pop in the cd and install windows
[06:49] <work> Cool, thanks guys.
[06:49] <Snert> Installed lxde and screensaver came with lxde and it puts up twirl fiber optics instead of just blanking the screen. I want just blank screen.
[06:49] <l3rg> rww: you type fast lol
[06:50] <dan1> Anyone?
[06:50] <dan1> I'm looking for a nice theme anyone have any recommendations
[06:52] <l3rg> dan1: you can do a google image search for ubuntu wallpaper
[06:52] <dan1> No,i mean a good theme
[06:54] <l3rg> dan1: check out numix
[06:54] <dan1> l3rg
[06:54] <helmut_> hi
[06:54] <dan1> does ubuntu 12.04 have accessories ?
[06:54] <dan1> Im trying to find the gnome screenshot tool
[06:55] <dan1> found it
[06:56] <dan1> L3rg is it possible to make my sidebar on the top? like here http://static.thegeekstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/capture-screenshot-1.png
[06:57] <dan1> l3rg
[06:57] <dan1> L3rg is it possible to make my sidebar on the top? like here http://static.thegeekstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/capture-screenshot-1.png
[06:57] <bekks> dan1: No.
[06:57] <dan1> Why not?
[06:57] <l3rg> dan1 looks like gnome 2 you might want to look into xfce desktop and tweak it to look like that
[06:58] <dan1> So i'm runing gnome 3?
[06:58] <bekks> dan1: Because thats the old gnome2 layout which is dead. Ubuntu uses Unity since 11.04
[06:58] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-gnome|dan1
[06:58] <l3rg> not the basic install has Unity
[06:59] <dan1> Do you think i should try gnome?
[06:59] <dan1> seems better
[06:59] <dorian_> i got website to test its security, can anybody help me?
[06:59] <dorian_> http://www.gdhlyz.com/
[06:59] <cfhowlett> !cb|dan1
[06:59] <_dan> bekks: i ran a binary i compiled on a different computer
[07:00] <dan1> hi
[07:00] <dan1> So does gnome 13.10 work with 12.04 ubuntu
[07:00] <bekks> _dan: then you have to recompile it to be portable.
[07:00] <_dan> yes i understand that
[07:00] <_dan> i can't figure out how to make gcc use only glibc 2.5 or less version
[07:00] <bekks> dan1: No. Update your 13.04 to 13.10
[07:00] <cfhowlett> !cn|dorian_
[07:01] <dan1> bekks i'm on unity? im running ubuntu 12.04
[07:01] <dorian_> no, here is just fine
[07:01] <dan1> and i want to install gnome i dont like the side bar
[07:01] <bekks> dan1: Well, being on 12.04 doesnt enable you to use 13.10 packages.
[07:01] <bekks> dan1: you've already been told on how to install gnome.
[07:01] <cfhowlett> dorian_ the website is in chinese.  no help here.  sorry.
[07:02] <dan1> So if i want to use gnome instead of unity side bar id have to update?
[07:02] <k1l> dan1: you will need an PPA for that
[07:02] <_dan> based on google sounds like i need to downgrade to ubuntu Feisty in order to compile it
[07:02] <zhangxaochen> why I can't identify myself today?
[07:02] <cfhowlett> dan1 and you've seen the suggestion to try #ubuntu-gnome
[07:02] <_dan> which has the correct libc version
[07:02] <bekks> _dan: what?
[07:02] <rww> zhangxaochen: because network services are currently broken
[07:02] <zhangxaochen> the irc always saying "NickServ :No such nick/channel"
[07:02] <_dan> because apparently there is no way to link against older libc
[07:02] <bekks> _dan: you should fix your linker code then.
[07:02] <zhangxaochen> rww, so it's not my fault?
[07:02] <_dan> other than downgrading
[07:02] <rww> zhangxaochen: no
[07:02] <k1l> zhangxaochen: ask in #freenode why that is brokern
[07:02] <_dan> im not touching the gcc linker O_o
[07:02] <bekks> _dan: And why do you try to compile against ancient glibc versions?
[07:02] <rww> k1l: no point, I just said all the info they have
[07:03] <_dan> because game server host runs old version of centOS
[07:03] <dorian_> that is its front-end,but i want to know if its back-end dafe
[07:03] <_dan> and binary has to run there
[07:03] <dorian_> that is its front-end,but i want to know if its back-end sae
[07:03] <dorian_> that is its front-end,but i want to know if its back-end safe
[07:03] <bekks> _dan: Then ask the centos support please.
[07:03] <rww> dorian_: do you have an Ubuntu support question in there somewhere?
[07:03] <_dan> no need, there is nothing they can do
[07:03] <_dan> i just need to compile the binary to be compatible
[07:03] <bekks> _dan: we can do even less.
[07:03] <r3s> dorian_: and maybe you should try the security channel?
[07:03] <cfhowlett> _dan we don't support centos here.
[07:03] <bekks> _dan: you have a centos issue, not a debian issue.
[07:03] <_dan> im compiling on ubuntu
[07:04] <bekks> s/debian/ubuntu/
[07:04] <_dan> hence, ubuntu issue
[07:04] <l3rg> dan1: go into the software center and download the gnome desktop logout click on the ubuntu icon near the sign in box and switch to gnome classic log back int
[07:04] <_dan> as far as i can tell, ubuntu has intentionally made it impossible to compile binaries that will work on older installations
[07:05] <zhangxaochen> rww, then is there any way I can join #C++ or else?
[07:05] <bekks> _dan: Which is nonsense. Ubuntu just dont ship those ancient glibc versions anymore, so you cant compile against them anymore.
[07:05] <rww> zhangxaochen: no, you can't join +r channels if you're not identified, and you can't identify right now
[07:06] <_dan> they're not even that old
[07:07] <GJPMiningco> what is the name of the File that controls where harddrives are auto mounted right now it is being mounted at /media/nick/7367af94-abdd-4d40-b903-cf78be32b37b    but i want it's mount location to be /home/nick/80gb
[07:07] <_dan> building on ubuntu 12 seems to require at least glibc 2.15
[07:07] <bekks> _dan: they are four versions behind tha oldest glilbc ubuntu still supports. They are prehistoric, to be honest.
[07:08] <dan1> no one was over there to help.
[07:10] <Format_Flash> Hello everyone
[07:10] <Format_Flash> why does ubuntu make it so hard to format a flash
[07:10] <Format_Flash> ?
[07:10] <Dreadlish> why do you think it's hard?
[07:10] <Format_Flash> with windows you just right click and format
[07:10] <Format_Flash> with ubuntu - (I use xubuntu) you have to do 15 steps
[07:10] <Format_Flash> I never got that
[07:11] <bekks> Format_Flash: mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdX  -- one command, not 15 steps.
[07:11] <Dreadlish> so do it with windows which can't even read flash with more than one partition.
[07:11] <Dreadlish> and it does shit in mbr while formating.
[07:11] <cfhowlett> Dreadlish language please ...
[07:11] <Dreadlish> cfhowlett: k.
[07:11] <Format_Flash> where do I put that one command ? in the terminal?
[07:12] <Dreadlish> yup
[07:12] <kostkon> Format_Flash, in ubuntu you right click on its icon in the launcher and select format
[07:12] <Format_Flash> the problem is I got DISKS from the ubuntu software center
[07:12] <Format_Flash> and for some reason I can't find it anywhere
[07:12] <Format_Flash> it shows its installed in the software center
[07:12] <Format_Flash> but I can't find it to run the damn thing
[07:12] <kostkon> !info disks
[07:12] <GJPMiningco> what is the name of the File that controls where harddrives are auto mounted right now it is being mounted at /media/nick/7367af94-abdd-4d40-b903-cf78be32b37b    but i want it's mount location to be /home/nick/80gb
[07:13] <k1l> Format_Flash: alt+f2 then program name
[07:13] <Dreadlish> GJPMiningco: change it's label.
[07:13] <gshmu> I install Ubuntu on USB drive, but tty7 error sometimes
[07:13] <Format_Flash> I'm gonna try  mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdX
[07:14] <Dreadlish> but change X to letter of your flash...
[07:14] <Dreadlish> (i think you should know that)
[07:14] <Format_Flash> got it
[07:14] <Format_Flash> thanls
[07:14] <gshmu> I try this
[07:14] <Format_Flash> thanks
[07:14] <Dreadlish> gshmu: which error.
[07:14] <Dreadlish> gshmu: put it on some kind of pastebin or sth.
[07:15] <Format_Flash> my flash just says flash
[07:15] <Format_Flash> it doesn't have a letter
[07:15] <gshmu> I used fsck /dev/sdb
[07:15] <ikonia> then you did wrong
[07:16] <ikonia> sdb is a disk - not a partition
[07:16] <ikonia> you need to put a file system on a partition
[07:16] <Format_Flash> how do I find out what letter my flash is
[07:16] <ikonia> Format_Flash: what do you mean, letter - just to be clear
[07:16] <k1l> Format_Flash: sudo fdisk -l
[07:17] <Format_Flash>  mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdX - Dreadlish said change the X to the letter of the flash
[07:17] <GJPMiningco> !info natulis
[07:17] <gshmu> ikonia: fsck each part
[07:17] <ikonia> gshmu: what ?
[07:17] <Dreadlish> Format_Flash: if you have one disk inside, then it would be b
[07:17] <ikonia> Format_Flash: look at what k1l just gave you for a quick confirmation
[07:17] <Dreadlish> Format_Flash: if more, it will be c, d, and so on.
[07:17] <Format_Flash> sorry I'm kinda new to all this
[07:18] <Format_Flash> sudo fdisk -l
[07:18] <Format_Flash> damn
[07:18] <Format_Flash> /dev/sdb is entire device, not just one partition!
[07:18] <Format_Flash> Proceed anyway? (y,n) ^C
[07:19] <Format_Flash> fucking windows makes it so much easier
[07:19] <Format_Flash> right click hit format and done
[07:19] <Format_Flash> I hate windows
[07:19] <Guest42984> Format_Flash: there is no need to use bad language
[07:19] <Dreadlish> Format_Flash: just day yes and thats all
[07:19] <Dreadlish> Format_Flash: you would do it like windows does
[07:19] <Guest42984> Format_Flash: if you want to continue to use this channel - stop with the rude langaage please
[07:19] <Dreadlish> Format_Flash: one partition without anything else
[07:19] <gshmu> error message at tty1~6:
[07:19] <gshmu> [ 2758.179020] EXT4-fs error (device sdb3): ext4_find_entry:1206: inode #5767169: comm getty: reading directory Iblock 0
[07:19] <bekks> gshmu: USe a livecd to run fsck -f
[07:20] <Dreadlish> if you want it readable on windows then you would rather like mkfs.vfat instead of mkfs.ext4
[07:20] <Dreadlish> gshmu: fsck -f -y even.
[07:20] <gshmu> try livecd message no permision
[07:20] <Dreadlish> omg...
[07:20] <Format_Flash> how is it more than one partition
[07:20] <bekks> gshmu: sudo fsck -f -y ...
[07:20] <Format_Flash> am I missing something ?
[07:21] <gshmu> livecd no permision
[07:21] <bekks> gshmu: sudo fsck -f -y ...
[07:21] <gshmu> so recovery mode  fsck
[07:21] <gshmu> it work
[07:21] <bekks> gshmu: you have to use fsck -f -y, not just fsck, as you did.
[07:22] <gshmu> bekks: THANKS
[07:22] <gshmu> -f -y
[07:22] <gshmu> Thanks all guys
[07:25] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:26] <cristian_c> I've made changes to .profile
[07:26] <cristian_c> I've added: PATH=/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.8.6/bin:$PATH and export PATH
[07:26] <cristian_c> but it seems that path is not used
[07:26] <cristian_c> How can I make sure that it's applied?
[07:26] <Dreadlish> echo $PATH
[07:26] <cristian_c> Dreadlish, ok
[07:28] <cristian_c> Dreadlish, ok, there is in the output
[07:28] <cristian_c> :)
[07:28] <macscam1> when installing ubuntu, how much memoryshould i allocate to swap
[07:28] <cristian_c> Dreadlish, but I don't understand because qtconfig-qt4 is not using it
[07:28] <Mako> YOur ram x2  ^_^
[07:29] <ikonia> Mako: no
[07:29] <Mako> Like if you have 4GB ram,  you would have 8GB for swap  ^_^
[07:29] <Guido1> I have a problem with mounting. gparted seas al partitions, but xubuntu is not mounting al partitions by startup or conecting
[07:29] <ikonia> macscam1: it depends, on wha tyou do
[07:29] <cristian_c> Dreadlish, How can I tell an application to use that path?
[07:29] <ikonia> Mako: that is just wrong
[07:29] <Mako> No?
[07:29] <Mako> Copy that,  IS tand corrected then  ^_^
[07:29] <rww> ubottu: crosspost | macscam1
[07:29] <Mako> stand*  Aff keyboard messing up
[07:30] <Guido1> I have a problem with mounting. gparted seas al partitions, but xubuntu is not mounting al partitions by startup or conecting and restart doesn't help
[07:31] <Mako> I got that info from a youtube installation tutorial video.  Said it ackted like pagefile memory or simular,  said to enter double the amount of ram
[07:31] <ikonia> Mako: sounds like that video should never be watched again
[07:31] <ikonia> or referenced again, unless it's an example of a bad video
[07:31] <Mako> What would be your suggestion on swap capacity then?  ^_^
[07:31] <ikonia> Mako: it depends
[07:32] <Mako> On what?
[07:32] <ikonia> Mako: a number of things,
[07:36] <Guido1> I have a problem with mounting. gparted seas al partitions, but xubuntu is not mounting al partitions by startup or conecting and restart doesn't help. how can i fix that?
[07:37] <k1l> Guido1: put that partitions into fstab
[07:37] <k1l> !fstab | Guido1
[07:38] <Guido1> it is also if i conect an usb-stick
[07:38] <Format_Flash> takes 15 steps to format flash in xubuntu
[07:39] <k1l> Guido1: i dont know if the xubuntu filemanager uses automount
[07:39] <Format_Flash> seriously as shitty as windows is you can do it in 1 step
[07:39] <Format_Flash> what gives
[07:39] <k1l> Format_Flash: last time: watch your language
[07:39] <Guido1> k1l, ubottu: it is also by usb-sticks etc. until today it uesed automount. so i think that there must be another option.
[07:40] <Format_Flash> lol
[07:40] <Mako> Could anyone walk me through setting up a network (File sharing) between Ubuntu and windows 7?  I have been through a couple of tutorials and guides,  but they do not seem to work.  ^_^
[07:41] <k1l> Guido1: maybe its that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar-volman/+bug/1090974
[07:41] <k1l> Guido1: read the comments, too
[07:54] <CeReS80> irc://irc.devilirc.net/JuMaNji
[07:56] <Mako> Anyone know about using Samba?
[07:58] <bekks> Mako: Lots of people do. Which specific question do you have?
[07:59] <hdzahedi> how can i know my ubuntu, 64 or 32 bit
[08:00] <ikonia> hdzahedi: uname -a
[08:00] <cristian_c> !14.04
[08:01] <rchavik> hi.. installing 12.04 desktop lts in thinkpad e440. installation was successful, but boots directly to windows.  booting livecd does not start lightdm, boot-repair unable to start.  what can i do next?
[08:01] <codygman> Hi, the installer just failed to install grub on my macbook pro 11,1 and then the installer exited. I'm assuming that ubuntu installed fine since grub-install is last step(I think). How can I install grub manually? /target/boot/efi is mounted
[08:02] <hdzahedi> ikonia,  3.11.0-15-generic #25~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 30 17:39:31 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:02] <ikonia> hdzahedi: 64
[08:03] <hdzahedi> ikonia, thanks, but i want to know how can i figurat that
[08:04] <ikonia> hdzahedi: x86_64
[08:04] <xul_> x86 is 32bit x86_64 is 64bit
[08:04] <ikonia> it won't say x86
[08:04] <ikonia> it will say i686
[08:05] <hdzahedi> ikonia, it means if my os is 32 bit it write x64_32?
[08:05] <ikonia> hdzahedi: no
[08:05] <ikonia> hdzahedi: x86_64 = 64bit i686 = 32bit
[08:05] <ikonia> hdzahedi: you have 64bit
[08:06] <hdzahedi> ikonia, thanks a lot.
[08:07] <geirha> I prefer to use ''file /bin/bash'' instead. It will say that /bin/bash is an ELF 32-bit executable or an ELF 64-bit executable.
[08:07] <ikonia> not always as a 32bit binary can run on a 64bit machine
[08:07] <ikonia> more so on virtual instances such as zen
[08:07] <ikonia> xen
[08:08] <geirha> yes, based on the assumption that the user has not replaced his/her login shell with a 32-bit version
[08:16] <hdzahedi> ikonia, thanks a lot, i am a beginner on linux and ubuntu, may i ask U how can i leare some practical code on terminal?
[08:16] <ikonia> just use the distro
[08:16] <ikonia> you'll find you use what you need and learn
[08:16] <Aki-Thinkpad> hdzahedi, what do you want to do in the terminal?
[08:16] <ffprint> hello
[08:17] <carbon14_> whats the difference beetwen ubuntu-touch and ubuntu-touch-preview
[08:17] <carbon14_> does someone can help me pleae
[08:18] <hdzahedi> ikonia, thanks
[08:19] <hdzahedi> Aki-Thinkpad, I just want to not use any more of my mouse, and do all things in terminal
[08:19] <Schnabeltierchen> does someone use byobu with tmux backend? how to open multiple windows at start?
[08:20] <hdzahedi> ikonia, my distro is ubuntu 12.04
[08:20] <ikonia> hdzahedi: that doesn't change my advice
[08:20] <Aki-Thinkpad> hdzahedi, wow, you have a great attitude
[08:21] <ikonia> hdzahedi: there is nothing wrong with using a desktop/mouse - don't make a problem where one doesn't exist
[08:21] <Aki-Thinkpad> hdzahedi, well do you know the basics? Like alt ctrl f1?
[08:21] <Aki-Thinkpad> hdzahedi, Here I'll pm you, help you get off your feet.
[08:22] <ikonia> hdzahedi: be very cautious taking advice from people in private ,where no-one can see the commands you are bing given to run, it removes any sort of saftey you have
[08:24] <euryale> When will canonical consider putting categories in unity dash? it's easier that way rather than using filter.
[08:24] <ikonia> euryale: no-one can answer that question
[08:25] <hdzahedi> ikonia, thanks
[08:25] <euryale> is there a channel for canonical?
[08:25] <ikonia> euryale: the best advice, is to log a bug
[08:25] <ikonia> no
[08:26] <hdzahedi> Aki-Thinkpad, realy i dont know any basic but i want to learn
[08:26] <ikonia> hdzahedi: just use your machine, you'll learn as you need to do things
[08:26] <ikonia> hdzahedi: and you'll learn better than making up false situations
[08:27] <vonsyd0w> or a virtual machine is a better choice
[08:27] <ikonia> there is no need for a virtual machine
[08:27] <vonsyd0w> there isn't a "need" for it, but its better than messing up your primary machine
[08:27] <ikonia> just use your desktop, and do the things you want to do, you will learn from experience and need, there is no short cut
[08:27] <Aki-Thinkpad> hdzahedi, well I sent you a pm
[08:28] <ikonia> just use your desktop, no need for anything special, or vm's or anything like that
[08:28] <vonsyd0w> thats like doing testing in production...
[08:28] <vonsyd0w> who does that/
[08:29] <vonsyd0w> bad advice
[08:29] <ikonia> it's nothing like that at all
[08:29] <vonsyd0w> well thats my opinion. u have yours
[08:29] <kostkon> euryale, there are categories in the dash
[08:30] <Aki-Thinkpad> euryale, if you have a suggestion, perhaps you should bring it to launchpad, or hang out in the developers channel, or propose a patch
[08:30] <kostkon> euryale, aren't the filters a form of categorisation
[08:32] <euryale> no, if you use type to search for apps then this wont bug u.
[08:32] <euryale> its different. do i need to filter the result everytime i look for an app?
[08:33] <ikonia> then log a bug requesting the feature,
[08:34] <Aki-Thinkpad> euryale, yah, and make sure you are hanging around when they do the design for the ubuntu desktop with unity-8
[08:42] <Aki-Thinkpad> !persian
[08:42] <rww> !ir
[08:42] <Aki-Thinkpad> rww, thanks
[08:43] <brothersome> !nl
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> !ping
[08:56] <Guest8725> kyky
[09:03] <Ascavasaion> my laptop has placed for a SIM card under the battery.  I put one in and now I do not know how to create a connection to the Internet with it.   can someone please help
[09:05] <gustav_> How do I enable multiple X in Ubuntu?
[09:06] <mortal_> how do i make friends?
[09:06] <mortal_> how so i have a gf?
[09:07] <gustav_> $ cd friends; make
[09:09] <Guest77160> ups
[09:11] <Kamuela> if I did a system upgrade to 14.04, is there a way to do some kind of semi equivalent system downgrade? i just realized there's driver support for my video card available only for 13.10
[09:11] <Capprentice> Hi! How to configure Privoxy for tor ?
[09:15] <Ascavasaion> how do I check if the sim slot is detected in linux?  lsusb does not detect it.
[09:17] <bekks> Ascavasaion: lspci
[09:17] <brothersome> Ascavasaion, dmesg
[09:33] <Ascavasaion> I cannot get the network manager to see the internal SIM card so I can create a mobile internet connection with my laptop.   I have plugged the sim into the receptacle under the laptop's battery.  I see nothibg in lsusb lspci thst looks like a sim or mobile device.  it is enabled in the CMOS settings.
[09:35] <waressearcher2> I have a problem, real problem
[09:35] <waressearcher2> anyone here ?
[09:35] <bekks> waressearcher2: You have to ask a support question, really ask. :)
[09:36] <cfhowlett> waressearcher2 you have to state your question.  telepaths have the day off.
[09:36] <waressearcher2> the problem is whether I would lost my 3TB data or not
[09:36] <cfhowlett> !details | waressearcher2
[09:41] <chronic52> is there anyway I can recover my files after accidently removing those using rm command
[09:41] <chronic52> ?
[09:41] <bekks> chronic52: From your backup, most likely.
[09:41] <cfhowlett> !recover|chronic52
[09:41] <geirha> chronic52: If a process still has those files open, the files are still there as long as those processes remain running
[09:42] <Ascavasaion> how do I set up mobile internet on my laptop when linux network manager does not seem to be detecting the sim card or built in device?
[09:44] <brothersome> Ascavasaion, nothing in dmesg?
[09:44] <waressearcher2> I used to encrypt files using this way: I have 6 huge files of 500GB each, like that one "/mnt/sdc1/encrypted.dat" that contains encrypted partition and I mount it using commands: "losetup -e aes /dev/loop1 /mnt/sda1/encrypted.dat" then "sudo mount -o noatime /dev/loop1 /mnt/sdc1_", and now I can access my files in "/mnt/sdc1_", all that stuff is
[09:44] <waressearcher2>  on external USB harddrive, and today morning my harddrive somehow disconnected, I rebooted computer, but now I can't access what is inside /mnt/sda1/encrypted.dat, as usual I use command "losetup -e aes /dev/loop1 /mnt/sda1/encrypted.dat" then it asks for password, I enter password, and now when I want to mount it using "mount -o noatime
[09:44] <waressearcher2>  /dev/loop1 /mnt/sdc1_" it says "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1"  I even use option "-t ext2", still the same error, so what can I do now ? I spent 1.5 years to get these 3TB data now its all gone ? what, clean slate ?
[09:45] <bekks> waressearcher2: Unless you have no backup, those data can safely be considered to be not worth to be kept.
[09:45] <Ascavasaion> brothersome... not that I can see.  not that I know what I am looking for.
[09:47] <waressearcher2> but why I can't mount it ? does that way of encryption using "losetup" does something specific with data when I unmount it correctly ? and if I just unplug drive without unmounting I simply lost all data ? it can't be that way, there should be some sort of resilience in case of power outage or something
[09:49] <brothersome> Ascavasaion, dmesg | grep 802
[09:52] <Ascavasaion> brothersome-iwl3945 looks like the best candidate.
[09:53] <waressearcher2> 1.5 years of my life depends on you guys
[09:53] <cfhowlett> waressearcher2 no magic bullets or command line fu can replace a reliable backup plan ...
[09:59] <waressearcher2> so thats all your help
[09:59] <Ascavasaion> brothersome-so no go?
[09:59] <cfhowlett> waressearcher2 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jrrj6msb0nsrb6h/9E4Zhbuz3i
[10:00] <cfhowlett> waressearcher2 nope, wrong one
[10:00] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[10:02] <zetheroo> Just upgraded to 14.04 from 13.10 and gthumb works terribly now ... incredibly slow and unresponsive
[10:02] <cfhowlett> Zeelot 14.04 support = #ubuntu+1
[10:03] <Ascavasaion>  okay. .. another negative Linux experience.
[10:03] <cfhowlett> !backup
[10:03] <Ascavasaion> thanks for trying brothersome but I am giving up.  linux/ubuntu epic fail again.
[10:07] <tmp_usr> gimme more
[10:13] <lintguy> Is it not possible to install newer kernel from backports?
[10:13] <lintguy> I activated it on saucy synaptic, but only a few packages are listed
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[10:20] <mozzarella> MAKE IT STOP
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[10:20] <BUPANWD>  BUPANWD
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[10:23] <ljunggren> how did that happen
[10:23] <phillip> yeah
[10:23] <mozzarella> MAKE IT STOP
[10:24] <kostkon> mozzarella, it's over
[10:24] <geirha> fourteen year-old with a bot net, probably
[10:24] <ljunggren> hum
[10:24] <kostkon> it was a bot net attack yeah. so many different ips/hostnames
[10:24] <ljunggren> it failed
[10:24] <ljunggren> why attack?
[10:25] <stetho> Morning all. I'm having trouble finding the answer to something I know is simple. I'm PXE booting precise/saucy with a preseed file. The machines get their name using DNS/DHCP and then wait for me to press return to carry on - everything else then carries on without intervention. Does anyone know the preseed command for "use the name you get from DHCP"?
[10:25] <geirha> ljunggren: because that's really funny when you're fourteen
[10:25] <ljunggren> well i guess that is true
[10:29] <RoryHughes> stetho: Are you just trying set up loads more bot nets to spam this channel?
[10:31] <stetho> RoryHughes: No, I'm asking a perfectly reasonable question.
[10:31] <kostkon> RoryHughes, ?
[10:31] <RoryHughes> stetho kostkon: I was making a joke sorry
[10:31] <RoryHughes> as in you are the 14 year old etc... from above ^^
[10:31] <RoryHughes> whatever sorry
[10:36] <ljunggren> lol
[10:37] <xutl> how to add ppa without an internet connection ?
[10:37] <brothersome> xutl, Ubuntu software manager - add ppa
[10:38] <xutl> brothersome: add-apt-repo cli command ??
[10:40] <xutl> BroadcastStorm: sudo apt-add-repository "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu saucy main" will add wine ppa or not ?
[10:47] <xutl> BroadcastStorm: ???
[10:47] <ljunggren> what is the point adding a ppa without a internet connection
[10:47] <xutl> ljunggren: I format and assemble a lot of systems, so I will just add the ppa and rest will on customers connection
[10:48] <xutl> leave*
[10:48] <xutl> they will update and install whatever they want afterwards on their bandwidth
[10:50] <ljunggren> well, could you not at least do an apt-get update for them?
[10:51] <ljunggren> You could also craete your own ISO with ppa and different programs you want included.. that way you won't have to do evertyhing over again with all systems
[10:51] <xutl> ljunggren: I can but they say that if I'm updating so I also install the apps and wine with other apps will be a total of gb's of data and a lot o f system means 100's of gb's so I just add the repos and ppa and rest leave on them, they do the rest for whatever they want
[10:51] <q0> hello, it seems i have openssl installed but i can't find the library folder ?
[10:52] <xutl> ljunggren: hmm, throw some light
[10:52] <q0> oh ok found the package name
[10:53] <q0> actually i can't find the package name, help ?
[10:54] <ljunggren> oh ubuntu builder was abondened
[10:54] <xutl> ljunggren: me ?
[10:54] <orogor> hi
[10:54] <ljunggren> Yeah
[10:54] <xutl> ljunggren: then now what ?
[10:54] <q0> ok found it
[10:54] <geirha> q0: apt-cache depends openssl
[10:54] <ljunggren> xutl: but, apt-get update doesn ot download anything it just updates the sources list and ppa you just added in the system
[10:54] <orogor> i am booted in bios mode, i rsynced / and /boot to a chroot , from there i try to install an efi boot ; is it at all possible ?
[10:54] <ljunggren> it's not an actual update
[10:55] <q0> geirha, what is depends ? i thought it was install libssl-dev ?
[10:55] <ljunggren> When you update you have to apt-get upgrade
[10:55] <geirha> q0: it lists all dependencies the openssl package has
[10:56] <ljunggren> xutl: i was thinking about this first; http://lifehacker.com/5921054/ubuntu-builder-lets-you-build-your-own-customized-linux-distribution but is has been abondened
[10:56] <xutl> ljunggren: like I said, when I updat sources and repos, then customers say that I request for installation of apps also which is a lot of data and time consuming task so I dont prefer the same
[10:56] <xutl> ohh, its a different hing
[10:56] <ljunggren> a simple apt-get update won't install anything
[10:56] <xutl> thing* ljunggren
[10:56] <geirha> q0: If you're actually looking for the headers, then yes, it's libssl-dev
[10:56] <q0> geirha, thank you for both
[10:57] <ljunggren> xutl: "sudo apt-get update" just refresh sources, does not install anything
[10:58] <yann2_> Guys, just wondering, but 14.4 is scheduled to be out in like 4 days, but there is no announcement on ubuntu.com, no countdown, no press release, it's the most silent release I ve ever seen... Anything wrong?
[10:58] <xutl> ljunggren: I know, but customers request installation also so I dont prefer it, I just say that it is to be done by them
[10:58] <ljunggren> ok do this then
[10:58] <ljunggren> install ubuntu in a WM
[10:59] <ljunggren> Add ppa and shit you want then: remastersys dist
[10:59] <xutl> ok ljunggren
[10:59] <xutl> !remastersys
[10:59] <ljunggren> nothing lol
[11:00] <ljunggren> nope, its also abondened
[11:00] <ljunggren> i don't know then sorry
[11:00] <xutl> ljunggren: site says its dev is stopped
[11:00] <cfhowlett> confirmed = abandoned
[11:00] <ljunggren> yup
[11:02] <xutl> ok simple thing - will this add a ppa or not ? sudo apt-add-repository "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu saucy main" , sudo apt-get update afterwards
[11:02] <k1l> xutl: that is wrong
[11:03] <k1l> !ppa | xutl
[11:03] <k1l> !addppa
[11:03] <xutl> k1l: why ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1506184 look at this
[11:03] <xutl> comment by EXCiD3
[11:04] <ljunggren> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[11:04] <k1l> xutl: you are mixing things, see how the command is described in this:
[11:04] <k1l> !addppa | xutl
[11:04] <xutl> ljunggren: that needs a working internet connection and I wanna do it offline
[11:04] <xutl> k1l: ^^^
[11:04] <ljunggren> you still need internet for refreshing with apt-get update right?
[11:05] <k1l> xutl: then dont use add-apt
[11:05] <xutl> k1l: hmm, anyother way then ?
[11:05] <k1l> xutl: and just adding the PPA source doesnt make it magically install the PPA stuff without internet  connection
[11:06] <ljunggren> read description here then : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[11:06] <xutl> k1l: yea, thats fine, just wanna add the dource and nothing more
[11:06] <ljunggren> And just copy the lines in your sources list manually
[11:06] <ljunggren> system software sources
[11:06] <xutl> ljunggren: thats what I'm asking if its a gud idea or working solution ?
[11:06] <ljunggren> I have never done it, but description says so
[11:06] <k1l> xutl: then add the source to sources.list
[11:07] <xutl> k1l: you mean manually ? and not by apt-add-repo cli command ?
[11:07] <ljunggren> k1| is it possible to do a apt-get update without internet connection?
[11:07] <xutl> ljunggren: yes, its possible
[11:08] <k1l> xutl: you just told me that add-apt-repository doesnt work for you and you want something else. so i dont get why you are surprised now
[11:08] <lintguy> Is it not possible to install newer kernel from backports?
[11:08] <xutl> k1l: I'm not saying that its   not working, I'm asking if it will work or not and whether its a gud idea ?
[11:08] <lintguy> I activated it on saucy synaptic, but only a few packages are listed
[11:08] <k1l> lintguy: which ubuntu?
[11:08] <ljunggren> xutl: yes manually, editing the sources.list file instead of doing any terminal command
[11:08] <lintguy> 13.10
[11:09] <xutl> ok
[11:09] <k1l> !mainline | lintguy
[11:09] <melosz> can someone help me? I have a problem, my machine does not work for outside world, I have access to it though.
[11:09] <k1l> xutl: the ubuntu way is to use add-apt-repository since it will make a entry into sources.list.d which can be removed with ppa-purge
[11:09] <lintguy> k1l: Hm, so it has to be done manually then?
[11:10] <k1l> xutl: but if you want it to be done manually make the entries into sources.list ; your choice, i am just answering your qeustions
[11:10] <ljunggren> just do this: connect to internet , add the ppa and update sources then disconnect
[11:10] <k1l> lintguy: ubuntu keeps a kernel version for one install. it just get bug and security fixes
[11:11] <xutl> k1l: ohh, thing is add-apt-repo ppa way is asking for a connection and apt-add-rep "deb url:ppa/ubuntu  xxx" doesnt asks the same
[11:11] <k1l> lintguy: there are only backport kernels for the LTS versions, that are the kernels from ther intermidiate releases between 2 LTS releases. see "enablement stack" if you run a LTS
[11:12] <lintguy> k1l: Ah, ok. Makes sense
[11:12] <melosz> help me
[11:12] <jackbrown> if I add a script in /etc/pm/power.d  will this script run on the boot time ? ???????????-----------
[11:12] <lintguy> k1l: thanks for answering
[11:12] <k1l> xutl: the ubuntu way is to add PPAs with add-apt-repository   . what you do manually is your choice
[11:12] <melosz> ervice network restart
[11:12] <melosz> Shutting down interface venet0:                             [  OK  ]
[11:12] <melosz> Shutting down loopback interface:                           [  OK  ]
[11:12] <melosz> SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
[11:12] <melosz> Bringing up loopback interface:                             [  OK  ]
[11:12] <melosz> Bringing up interface venet0:  RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[11:12] <unopaste> melosz you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:13] <xutl> k1l: ok, but I hope it doesnt breaks system
[11:13] <xutl> the manual way doesn't
[11:13] <k1l> xutl: that is a PPA. we cant guarantee that
[11:13] <xutl> ohh
[11:14] <xutl> how can it be undone ? ppa-purge only or apt-get uninstall ?
[11:14] <xutl> k1l: ^^
[11:14] <ljunggren> delete the line again from sources.list if you did it manually
[11:14] <jester-> most ppa are a cancer
[11:15] <k1l> xutl: what undone? for add-apt-repository use ppa-purge
[11:15] <ljunggren> jester-: would be nice to have something like AUR instead?
[11:15] <xutl> jester-: thats a very hard line, wine is a trustable app
[11:15] <xutl> ljunggren: AUR ?
[11:15] <ljunggren> xutl: Arch User Repository
[11:15] <ljunggren> For Arch
[11:15] <k1l> the quality from a PPA is based on the PPA-maintainer. there is a lot of difference between the PPAs. so be aware of that.
[11:15] <jester-> ljunggren: of arch?
[11:16] <jester-> ljunggren: ubuntu has propsed but whit less stuff
[11:16] <ljunggren> jester-: what
[11:16] <xutl> hmm...is there any forum or service or site where ppa are starred or commented ?
[11:16] <ljunggren> jester-: really? that would be intresting
[11:17] <ljunggren> isntead of searching the web for addind lots of ppa you could just use "AUR" for ubuntu
[11:17] <ljunggren> that would be awesome
[11:17] <ljunggren> it also keeps pacakges updated
[11:17] <arpd> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to get my monitors to show me the getty terminals; Once my machine has booted, I can see one of them launch, but then X starts and after that, trying to `ctrl + alt + F{1,6}` ends up turning my monitors off; The terminals are alive, I can drive them blind, and I can switch back to X with `ctrl + alt + F7`. I've tried disabling grub graphical terminal, and that didn't help. Does anyone have any h
[11:18] <melosz> help me
[11:18] <melosz> hjap
[11:18] <k1l> ljunggren: we cant take AUR since its a whole different release and package system.
[11:18] <xutl> but AUR sounds very good
[11:19] <ljunggren> k1|  i don't meen we should just take AUR
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> what's aur?
[11:19] <k1l> then use Arch
[11:20] <ljunggren> k1| i mean ubuntu should have something similiar
[11:20] <bekks> Thats all what's good about AUR - its sound.
[11:20] <k1l> ljunggren: again: with good qualtity PPAs we have a good alternative. but the quality differs in the PPAs.
[11:20] <ljunggren> haters will hate
[11:20] <bekks> ljunggren: Ubuntu has PPA.
[11:21] <erle-> is there a ubuntu flavor or PPA with unpatched gnome?
[11:21] <ljunggren> Which
[11:21] <ljunggren> you have to search for what you want and find ppa
[11:21] <ljunggren> ubuntu should at least have a central place for ppas?
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> ljunggren  or write an article about it, explaining why ubuntu should support aur
[11:21] <k1l> erle-: ubuntu-gnome tries to be more vanilla gnome-shell
[11:21] <ljunggren> MonkeyDust: Noh man, im not that good writing or have the knowledge about it
[11:21] <arpd> ljunggren: Ubuntu does, doesn't it? Have a look here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[11:22] <k1l> !ppa | ljunggren
[11:22] <ljunggren> thanks arpd
[11:22] <ljunggren> intresting site!
[11:23] <xutl> whats the difference between ubuntu and ppa here ---> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ ?? looks like I can install wine with ubuntu versions like a 3rd party repo
[11:23] <xutl> and not ppa only
[11:24] <ljunggren> wine is in regular repos also?
[11:24] <k1l> xutl: its a PPA
[11:24] <kostkon> xutl, that's the official wine ppa, gives you the latest version
[11:24] <k1l> xutl: please stop right here and first read the links given you now several times to read what a PPA is.
[11:24] <xutl> kostkon: yes, but whats the difference between ppa and ubuntu folders ?
[11:24] <k1l> xutl: you are wildly mixing things and keep asking the same questions
[11:25] <xutl> k1l: I got it, but there it is having a ubuntu folder just like a repo
[11:25] <k1l> xutl: its a PPA, its just the way the PPA is technically a repository. but that doesnt mean its a ubuntu officially repository. its still maintained by some bloke, not by ubuntu /canonical
[11:26] <xutl> k1l: yea, but with that ubuntu folder inplace of ppa in repo, will it install its app like from a outside 3rd repo ?
[11:27] <xutl> 3rd party* repo
[11:27] <k1l> and you dont know what the guy  does with that packages. and you dont know if that will possibly break other packages when you install that. its a just a package (or some more packages) in a repo that is hosted on the ubuntu servers on launchpad. but ist NOT maintained by ubuntu
[11:27] <k1l> xutl: a PPA is a repo.
[11:27] <k1l> !ppa > xutl please really really really read that
[11:28] <arpd> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to get my monitors to show me the getty terminals; Once my machine has booted, I can see one of them launch, but then X starts and after that, trying to `ctrl + alt + F{1,6}` ends up turning my monitors off; The terminals are alive, I can drive them blind, and I can switch back to X with `ctrl + alt + F7`. I've tried disabling grub graphical terminal, and that didn't help. Does anyone have any h
[11:29] <tozen> -/quit
[11:29] <xutl> k1l: no man, you are not understanding, there is a ppa repo ok but there is also a ubuntu folder which looks like a outside 3rd party repo so what I'm asking is that could I be able to use it as a outside 3rd repo and not its ppa source only http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/
[11:30] <xutl> k1l: like flash canonical partner repo
[11:31] <k1l> xutl: its the same stuff in that ubuntu folder that is in the PPA folder. its just technically put into folders.
[11:32] <ljunggren> thanks guys!
[11:32] <ljunggren> really nice info here
[11:32] <k1l> xutl: and i told you some times ago that you can add a PPA source into your sources.list but that is not the ubunut way. that is the "xutl wants to do it manually" way.
[11:33] <ljunggren> k1| thats just because it needs to be added without internet
[11:33] <xutl> k1l: lol, but with that ubuntu folder I can add it as a repo with apt-add-repo cli and it'll show in sources.list.d and I'll not have to go through ppa's :)
[11:35] <xutl> thnx all ljunggren k1l
[11:39] <MagicJ> I want to lend a laptop to someone else and set him up as a "regular" user.  I do not want to risk him having admin privs.  How do I set it such that he can connect to wifi networks?  (it seems to ask for an admin password)
[11:42] <ljunggren> but
[11:43] <ljunggren> would not ppa be easier if it was one big ppa?
[11:43] <ljunggren> instead of adding several different?
[11:43] <ljunggren> sorry this is perhaps more suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:44] <k1l> ljunggren: PPAs can contain several packages. so to make sure your get package version 1.5 and not package version 1.4 from another PPA you need to split the PPAs. so the same base is ppa.launchpad.net
[11:47] <Daghdha> Hi i am setting up email and the page mentions a command but the command says it's not installed.  https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/powerpc/mail-setup.html  Its the command under the section Configuring the Exim4 Mail Transport Agent
[11:47] <Daghdha> Should i install it or is it outdated>
[11:47] <Daghdha> It says: Package `exim4-config' is not installed and no info is available.
[11:47] <ljunggren> ok :)
[11:49] <ikonia> Daghdha: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[11:51] <Daghdha> 12.04 precise
[11:51] <Daghdha> 12.04.04 to be precise
[11:51] <ikonia> Daghdha: so that guide is written for 12.04 - so should be current
[11:52] <Daghdha> even if it was migrated back from 10.04?
[11:53] <ikonia> Daghdha: on paper that shouldn't matter, in reality, it may matter a tiny bit, but shouldn't cause a problem
[11:54] <Daghdha> well apparently my system lacks exim4, that's what it means right the error
[11:54] <ikonia> have you installed exim ?
[11:54] <ikonia> Daghdha: just so I'm clear, are you actually trying to set up a mail server ? or a mail client ?
[11:54] <ikonia> that guide actually looks pretty poor for both
[11:55] <Guest24322> Hi, my usb ports don't work. The usb3 port works fine. Any idea?
[11:55] <Daghdha> client. I added aliasses entry for root to go to a public domain email and want to send emails. Not server.
[11:55] <ikonia> Daghdha: shouldn't need exim then
[11:55] <ikonia> Daghdha: you should just point your email client (thunderbird ?) at your ISP's mail relay
[11:55] <Daghdha> no..
[11:56] <Daghdha> hmm i mean: I want my computer to send emails to my public email address
[11:56] <Daghdha> sendmail/smtp
[11:56] <ikonia> your using sendmail ?
[11:56] <ikonia> what MTA are you using ?
[11:56] <Daghdha> so any mail locally on my ubuntu machine sent to root gets forwarded to an account i read.
[11:57] <Daghdha> Whatever is default (If there is a default one) i did not configure MTA
[11:57] <ikonia> it should be exim, but if you're upgraded it maybe postfix
[11:57] <ikonia> take a look at which one you have instaled
[11:58] <Daghdha> postfix is in my commandlist
[11:58] <ikonia> check, which packages you have installed, look at what /etc/sendmail links against
[11:58] <ikonia> which sendmail then look at what it links to
[11:58] <ikonia> or mailq
[11:59] <ikonia> which mailq
[11:59] <ikonia> oops not /etc/sendmail
[11:59] <Daghdha> ok coz it's not there :)
[11:59] <ikonia> what's not there ?
[12:00] <Daghdha> the /etc/sendmail command
[12:00] <ikonia> it's not a command, it's a directory, and as I said it was a mistake, not /etc/sendmail
[12:00] <Daghdha> sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail  this?
[12:00] <ikonia> that's two different things
[12:01] <ikonia> looks at what the sendmail binary links against
[12:01] <ikonia> or the mailq binary
[12:01] <Daghdha> how can i tell what it links against it doesn't appear do be a lnik when i run 'ls -l '
[12:02] <ikonia> that seems odd, that suggests you have sendmail installed if it's not a link
[12:02] <ikonia> ls -la `which mailq`
[12:02] <Daghdha> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Feb 20  2013 /usr/bin/mailq -> ../sbin/sendmail
[12:03] <ikonia> so mailq is a link to sendmail
[12:03] <ikonia> what is sendmail a link to
[12:03] <Daghdha> sendmail is not a link
[12:03] <Daghdha> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26640 Feb 20  2013 /usr/sbin/sendmail
[12:03] <ikonia> you need to look at what you have installed then, as it sounds like you have a few mta's installed
[12:08] <Guido1> can i somwehere see a reboot history? (when it reboted)
[12:08] <nestle20> i've got a server that's 4TB x 6 with fresh ubuntu 13.10 64bit installed, for some reason when i run df -h it still only shows 3.4T instead of say.. 11 or 12TB like i was hoping. heres some information on pastebin http://pastebin.com/egtvzPgu -- any direction on how to add the remaining drives as part of the raid (cause it seems to be at 3600gb)
[12:08] <ikonia> Guido1: last
[12:08] <Guido1> ikonia: is it a program or comment or what?
[12:08] <ikonia> a command
[12:08] <Guido1> ikonia: thanks
[12:09] <geirha> nestle20: It's saying 3.4 TiB, not 3.4 TB. Big difference
[12:11] <Daghdha> ikonia: Apparently it works, except i have some other setting that prevents it from working. "Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname" i think mine is just local name
[12:11] <nestle20> ok but its got 24tb of total space and im trying to do raid1 12TB
[12:11] <ikonia> Daghdha: it needs a fully qualied domain name to listen on
[12:11] <nestle20> so im just trying to figure out how to increase it
[12:11] <nestle20> because when i ran fallocate -l 4000G test.zip i was able to fill up the whole space
[12:11] <nestle20> so im missing out on a ton of space
[12:12] <geirha> nestle20: Well, you're using raid1 ... mirroring ...
[12:12] <Daghdha> yah ikonia, i am locating the storage place for that now
[12:13] <nestle20> maybe ia m confused.. I bought a dedicated server that comes with 4TB x 6 (hard drives).. So to me that's 24TB of disk space.. and my goal is to have 12,000 GB usable.. is that not do able?
[12:13] <ikonia> nestle20: have you actually looked how many disks are in the machine ?
[12:13] <geirha> nestle20: yes, with raid 1+0
[12:13] <nestle20> ikonia on the pastebin you can see the disks are there..
[12:14] <ikonia> I don't think you are
[12:14] <arpd> Has anyone had any success getting mainline 3.14 kernel to work on 13.10?
[12:14] <nestle20> ikonia, ok then how would i do that? df -h ? fdisk -l /dev/sd* or what?
[12:14] <ikonia> it looks like you've just created a 4TB meta device and mounted /home on it
[12:15] <ikonia> and a 20 GB meta device for root
[12:15] <nestle20> It was just how the server was installed, so it looks like i need to change this to raid1+0
[12:15] <ikonia> nestle20: http://pastebin.com/egtvzPgu
[12:15] <ikonia> ops
[12:15] <ikonia> ooops
[12:15] <ikonia> nestle20:    Array Size : 3886010304 (3705.99 GiB 3979.27 GB)
[12:15] <geirha> nestle20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid10
[12:15] <ikonia> that's the size of the array you've created
[12:16] <ikonia> any other discussion on beyond that is pointless, that is fact, that is the size of the array you've created
[12:16] <ikonia> the sheer number of swap partitions looks really REALLY silly too
[12:16] <ikonia> 6 swap partitions.....not good
[12:17] <Daghdha> Thanks for help ikonia. I changed the entry for main.cf in postfix and no i received an email :)
[12:17] <ikonia> Daghdha: ah, so it was postfix
[12:17] <ubuntu-studio> buenasss
[12:17] <ubuntu-studio> como instalo adobe flash player
[12:17] <Daghdha> it was having host as machine name and remote servers said 'go away plz'
[12:18] <cfhowlett> !es|ubuntu-studio
[12:21] <nestle20> ok so it looks like on the server control panel i have the option to reinstall the os without any raid.. and then from there i can manually setup raid10 through mdadm?
[12:25] <ocooel> External hard drive cannot create partition or format. What do you make of this..? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7244306/
[12:26] <geirha> ocooel: faulty/loose cable or faulty disk probably
[12:27] <dispy> Hi there. I compiled Qemu on my own because the package is out of date: however, I'd like to use a graphical user interface (AQEMU) in this case. I installed the compiled qemu using make install; the package manager doesn't recognize qemu-common as being installed; therefore it refuses to install AQemu in turn (violated dependency). However, I cannot mark it to be already installed using apt-mark manual qemu-common also. What can I do let the package man
[12:27] <dispy> ager recognize my compiled version?
[12:28] <ikonia> dispy: nothing, you have made a bad decision
[12:28] <ikonia> dispy: you have made a mess of your package manager and it's dependencies, especially with qemu that links into many things, including the kernel
[12:29] <dispy> what's the good decision I could've chosen?
[12:29] <ikonia> dispy: to use the version shipped with the distro you used
[12:29] <ocooel> geirha: think it's a goner then.
[12:30] <dispy> ikonia: there's a known bug in the package version being fixed for a long time
[12:30] <ikonia> dispy: which bug is this ?
[12:31] <dispy> initially I had the package version and it just doesn't work. Most people I saw having this problem checked out from git; I downloaded a stable version
[12:31] <dispy> give me a sec
[12:32] <dispy> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/938937
[12:32] <dispy> (current version is 1.7something, the repo installed 0.8.something )
[12:32] <ikonia> dispy: fix released https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/824650
[12:34] <dispy> ikonia: I know, it obviously hasn't arrived inthe repo yet
[12:35] <dispy> that's why I wanted to build it myself ;)
[12:35] <ikonia> dispy: I'd chase that up, rather than screw my machine up
[12:35] <Ugb3> Hello, do any of you know any web based upnp/dlna renderer ?
[12:35] <ikonia> push the bug through / fix through rather than mess up my machine
[12:35] <dispy> sorry I still don't get you ;-). What does "push the bug through" mean?
[12:40] <dispy> ikonia sorry to bother you again but I didn't get your suggested solution
[12:40] <ikonia> dispy: I'd suggest you chase up the fix in that bug report and make sure it gets pushed out ASAP
[12:40] <PreSSion> hi! I want buy a smarthpone, because I haven't got, and I wanted to know when the bq or meizu ubuntu phone will be release...?
[12:40] <kleinerdrache> hi there
[12:41] <cfhowlett> PreSSion no set date
[12:41] <PreSSion> oh...
[12:41] <kleinerdrache> if I do a 'change user' the acutall session gets in the background and on a new display there is a new login screen (here lightdm)
[12:41] <k1l> PreSSion: #ubuntu-touch
[12:41] <kleinerdrache> how can I get this behaviour on a terminal on my first x display?
[12:42] <dispy> ok I'll give it a try. I always though that might take a week or two, but if you say so.  In general: is there any general solution to this problem? I mean I'm inclined to compile on my own all the time, an option to mark them as installed would come in very handy
[12:43] <Bliepo> Could someone help me with my script? I have files numbered 1 to 366 and want to rename them according to the lines of a text file, but some lines contain spaces which causes problems.
[12:44] <c_korn> how can I make xdg-open to open a file with # in it? this does not work: xdg-open "file:///home/korn/Videos/[DE] STO Livestream #9 mit Fero und Henri.mp4" do I have to escape the # somehow?
[12:50] <nestle20> AH YES SUCCESS!
[12:50] <nestle20> i set /home to raid 10
[12:50] <nestle20> in the installation procedure
[12:50] <nestle20> Now i have 11T in /home
[12:50] <nestle20> thanks guys
[12:50] <nestle20> this si my first time dealing with raid so i didnt reailze it had to be raid10 i assumed it could still be raid1
[12:50] <mac_12> does someone know when ubuntu 14.04 will be available? thank u
[12:51] <k1l> mac_12: april the 17th
[12:51] <mac_12> k1l: thanks
[12:51] <mac_12> a lot
[12:54] <Daghdha> Hi, i want to set up something in ubuntu that will log or alert when internet goes do wn and when it comes back up. Is this something that part of ubuntu or do i need to get some 3rd party tool for it? It's not uptime monitor :P i foudn that
[12:54] <ezq2615> boo
[12:55] <bhavesh> Is there a way to install GNOME 3.12 in Ubuntu 13.10 without compiling it from source?
[12:57] <Bliepo> So can someone help me with my scripts? It's just 15 lines... shouldn't be hard.
[12:58] <bhavesh> Bliepo: I would if I knew bash well, but I'll still try
[12:59] <Daghdha> oops. :)
[12:59] <k1l> Bliepo: ##bash
[12:59] <Bliepo> bhavesh, this is the script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7244468/
[12:59] <Seveas> bhavesh: no. The gnome3 ppa is still at 3.10 https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[12:59] <Bliepo> Problem is, if a line in eps.txt contains spaces, the script will cut-off the rest of the line
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> Bliepo  better ask in #bash, i guess
[13:00] <Bliepo> MonkeyDust, good idea, will do
[13:06] <ultrastorm> anyone know how to switch on Unity 3D for a Radeon 7000? picture is slow so to refresh. I am really new to Ubuntu any help would be great
[13:07] <ultrastorm> anyone able to help me ?
[13:10] <Daghdha> Bliepo can't you just surround it with '
[13:10] <mac_12> ultrastorm: tell me
[13:12] <ultrastorm> I installed Ubuntu 13:10 to replace windows xp and its so slow to move windows on the screen or do anything. its a old computer with a Radeon 7000. I just dont have a clue what todo can anyone help me ?
[13:12] <wheatthin> ultrastorm, have you tried installing the ati proprietary drivers?
[13:12] <Coded1> ultrastorm: can you pastebin the output from "lsmod" ?
[13:13] <ultrastorm> how do I install them ?
[13:13] <ultrastorm> I am a newbie
[13:13] <Coded1> ya there are 2 drivers "radeon" and "flgrx"
[13:13] <Coded1> radeon should actually be better for you though
[13:13] <ultrastorm> how do I switch it to use Radeon ?
[13:13] <Coded1> what is your output of "lsmod"
[13:13] <Coded1> ?
[13:13] <ultrastorm> one sec will go see
[13:13] <mac_12> ultrastorm: you could try a different desktop manager (lxde, fluxbox)
[13:13] <ultrastorm> computer in other room
[13:14] <wheatthin> I find compiz and flash like fglrx :).. although the Lens search thing for unity slows down alot during video playback
[13:14] <Coded1> a radeon 7000 is old though, there isn't much it's really going to do
[13:15] <Coded1> o wait, sorry I was thinking of 9000
[13:16] <Coded1> HD7000 really will need flgrx
[13:17] <ultrastorm> dont think its a HD version
[13:17] <ultrastorm> its old
[13:17] <wheatthin> hmm then you're stuck with radeon drivers
[13:17] <Coded1> you can ssh into it from the computer your at now
[13:17] <wheatthin> which should be already configured
[13:17] <Coded1> that way you don't have to go back and forth
[13:17] <ultrastorm> really
[13:17] <ultrastorm> how ?
[13:17] <Coded1> google "putty download"
[13:18] <Coded1> 2) download it
[13:18] <Coded1> 3) ???
[13:18] <ultrastorm> already got putty installed
[13:18] <Coded1> use it to open an ssh session and type the user name and password of your user on the box
[13:19] <ultrastorm> Module                  Size  Used by
[13:19] <ultrastorm> bnep                   18893  2
[13:19] <ultrastorm> rfcomm                 53664  0
[13:19] <ultrastorm> bluetooth             323534  10 bnep,rfcomm
[13:19] <ultrastorm> ppdev                  17391  0
[13:19] <Coded1> heh
[13:19] <ultrastorm> umm
[13:19] <ultrastorm> why did it go mental ?
[13:19] <ultrastorm> lol
[13:19] <Coded1> use http://www.pastebin.com
[13:19] <k1l> !paste | ultrastorm
[13:20] <ultrastorm> http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=wckAJ7kJ
[13:20] <ultrastorm> that right ?
[13:21] <taltk9> testing xchat
[13:21] <Coded1> you can download a program called "pastebinit" that you can just pipe to pastebin
[13:22] <ultrastorm> does the link work?
[13:22] <mihalych_> Hello everyone. Who ever installed the E18?
[13:23] <ultrastorm> hi?
[13:24] <mac_12> taltk9: welcome
[13:24] <Guido1> does anyone know how to repaire the auto mount (of internmal and external drives and partitions)?
[13:24] <ultrastorm> coded1 where ya vanish too ?
[13:25] <Coded1> you have the radeon open source driver installed
[13:25] <Coded1> are you running unity and the windows lag?
[13:26] <ultrastorm> running unity and the windows are lagging
[13:26] <shadowSpace> hi
[13:26] <ultrastorm> very slow todo anything, the mouse pointer moves fine but everything else is slow
[13:26] <ultrastorm> how do I install the Radeon open source driver ?
[13:26] <Coded1> it already is
[13:27] <ultrastorm> how do I switch to use it ?
[13:27] <Coded1> how old is this graphics card?
[13:27] <ultrastorm> agp
[13:27] <ultrastorm> its old
[13:27] <maveas> Anyone having probles with Ubuntu Server not logging to /var/log/messages ? My messages log haven't get logged to since monday.. pretty weird..
[13:30] <Coded1> ultrastorm: try this "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit"
[13:31] <ultrastorm> ok
[13:33] <maxshellubu> nick romemp
[13:33] <ultrastorm> installed
[13:33] <romemp> :)
[13:35] <Coded1> ultrastorm: now run "dmesg | pastebinit"
[13:36] <ultrastorm> k
[13:37] <nestle20> I notice on this brand new installed ubuntu 13.10, there is like nothing running yet the load is still  at times randomly jumping to 0.50 or 0.65.. anything i can use to monitor or catch whats making it jump
[13:37] <nestle20> in top i just saw md3_raid10
[13:37] <nestle20> or something like that , it disappeared
[13:37] <nestle20> i mean is that just how things are? i assumed with nothing going (i havent done anything yet with it), that it would be mostly under 0.05
[13:37] <Coded1> nestle20: try htop
[13:37] <nestle20> ok
[13:37] <darkelfjuggalo> Is it possible for a glitch to overclock my Laptop? I run ubuntu 13.10 on 64-bit Toshiba Satelite that originally had Win7 on it. without an eternal fan[box fan] blowing directly on it, it will over heat in 20 minutes of power up without being logged in
[13:38] <ultrastorm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7244623/
[13:39] <Coded1> darkelfjuggalo: the governor is likely off.  Use your GPU driver software to get into powersaving mode
[13:39] <vbox90> Hi, my usb ports don't work anymore, while usb3 works perfectly. The same same thing happens via live cd. Any help?
[13:40] <darkelfjuggalo> Coded1 how do I do that?
[13:40] <tfh> hello, on my new laptop, I can't find IRC application in Empathy - I'm using my old one to ask the question, any idea?
[13:41] <Coded1> darkelfjuggalo: is your GPU ATI/AMD or Nvidia?
[13:41] <tfh> hello, on my new laptop, I can't find IRC application in Empathy - I'm using my old one to ask the question, any idea?(Ubuntu 13.10)
[13:41] <nestle20> i just watched the load jump to 0.35 from 0.10 and theres nothing coming up =/
[13:41] <ultrastorm> got the link coded1 ?
[13:41] <nestle20> strange
[13:41] <nestle20> htop is using the most, 0.7%
[13:41] <nestle20> lol
[13:41] <cybetwarrior> Try find on google for you
[13:41] <darkelfjuggalo> Coded1 how do I find out
[13:42] <vbox90> vbox
[13:42] <Coded1> lspci -vv
[13:42] <kostkon> tfh, install this package:  telepathy-idle
[13:42] <Coded1> darkelfjuggalo: "lspci -vv"
[13:42] <kostkon> tfh, then restart empathy
[13:43] <darkelfjuggalo> http://pastebin.com/FEWswFmy
[13:44] <ultrastorm> coded ?
[13:45] <choicer> hello
[13:45] <choicer> I have an issue
[13:45] <choicer> when I use dual monitor it slows down
[13:45] <choicer> can this be fixed
[13:46] <choicer> hello
[13:46] <choicer> anyone here
[13:46] <cabbage4th> I am but I don't know how. xD
[13:46] <k1l> !details | choicer
[13:47] <choicer> ok
[13:47] <choicer> in windows it works fine
[13:47] <k1l> choicer: which ubuntu? which desktop? which video card? which driver? ....
[13:47] <choicer> ati with the free driver
[13:47] <tfh_> hi, I got a new lenovo idealpad, and now with its touchpad I cannot paste text after having selected it via simultaneous clicking of the 2 buttons, what is the best way to select and paste text? (Ubuntu 13.10)
[13:47] <choicer> the default one
[13:48] <choicer> radeon 8750
[13:48] <choicer> or something like that
[13:49] <Guest80553> lachattounette rose
[13:49] <ultrastorm> coded1 you vanished ?
[13:50] <nestle20> lol
[13:52] <MagicJ> I need to make my 12.4 system allow a non-admin user to select and connect to a wifi network - how do I do it?
[13:53] <kostkon> MagicJ, one option is to setup it in network manager and enable the option "available to all users"
[13:54] <darkelfjuggalo> coded1 can you look over this for me http://pastebin.com/FEWswFmy
[13:54] <MagicJ> kostkon: that does not work since I do not know all the networks that the user may need to connect to
[13:54] <kostkon> MagicJ, i mean add the network as a new connection and click on the available to all users
[13:55] <MagicJ> kostkon: as you see from our crossed messages that does not work
[13:55] <sq3shk> hello
[13:55] <basd82> Is there an Ubuntu Sponsor online ?
[13:56] <MagicJ> I have implemented it as  a kludge using polkit
[13:56] <sq3shk> Q
[13:56] <cfhowlett> basd82 ubuntu sponsor????
[13:57] <basd82> Sponsore some thats part of the
[13:57] <basd82> ŌĆ£Ubuntu Sponsors TeamŌĆØ
[13:57]  * basd82 surfing to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sponsors
[13:58] <k1l> basd82: #ubuntu-motu ?
[13:58] <tfh> how can I select text and paste it in ubuntu 13.10 on lenovo ideapad (using the touchpad), I used to press simultaneously the right and left buttons, this doesn't work in this new laptop. (sorry I asked this before and got disconnected - appologies if it was already answered)
[13:58] <basd82> A sponsor is a person that has the abilitie to uploa dpackages to ubuntu repo┬┤ s
[14:00] <cfhowlett> basd82 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[14:00] <basd82> cfhowlett, i know the wiki
[14:00] <basd82> but i hafe question about exsisting sync request
[14:00] <cfhowlett> 27 bashibel hutong, beijing
[14:01] <k1l> basd82: this channel here is a technical support channel. what about you try your request in #ubuntu-motu ?
[14:01] <Guest60835> belo dia
[14:01] <basd82> k1l, i am there now
[14:02] <Guest51311> belo dias
[14:03] <k1l> !it | Guest51311
[14:04] <Guest51311> iamamoto87@hotmail.com
[14:04] <roast_> I'm trying to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 (server) via terminal but it never find a new release to upgrade to
[14:05] <k1l> roast_: look at release prompt
[14:05] <Guido1> I still have problems with mounting. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions "When you mount a disc normally with the file browser (nautilus etc) it mounts disks by interacting with udisks behind the scenes." but i don't see it in the file manager.
[14:05] <kostkon> !eolupgrades | roast_
[14:06] <k1l> roast_: its in "etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[14:07] <roast_> k1l: yeah, i change from normal to tls back to normal
[14:07] <roast_> k1l: i'm going to reboot then retry
[14:07] <roast_> kostkon: yeah, seeing 13.04 as EOL has prompted me to update
[14:08] <roast_> bbl
[14:08] <kostkon> roast_, you need to edit your sources.list first
[14:08] <k1l> kostkon: no
[14:08] <kostkon> k1l, ok then
[14:09] <k1l> the 13.04 are still up. it takes some time until they are put into old-releases
[14:12] <jondavis> can some one help me try to upgrade filezilla please .i do not know how to
[14:13] <jondavis> hello
[14:13] <cisconinja> !dpkg ask
[14:14] <cfhowlett> jondavis install the package from the software center
[14:14] <jondavis> i did
[14:14] <jondavis> it need to be upgradeing
[14:15] <cisconinja> !tell me
[14:15] <k1l> jondavis: which ubuntu, which filezilla
[14:15] <romemp> use the simple ftp and efective ftp from terminal
[14:15] <cfhowlett> jondavis www.file-zilla.org if you insist on installing a version outside of the official repos.  installation instructions are on th esite
[14:15] <cisconinja> !tell cisconinja ask
[14:15] <k1l> cisconinja: if you got a support question ask with the details. if you want to read about other stuff see wiki.ubuntu.com or help.ubuntu.com
[14:16] <jondavis> well i have pepperment  linux but .a newer version of filezilla is available 3.8.0
[14:17] <k1l> jondavis: then ask the peppermint guys how their suggested way is
[14:17] <jondavis> i like to know
[14:18] <k1l> !peppermint | jondavis
[14:18] <cisconinja> k1l I was trying to figure out how i can tell someone to ask the proper question
[14:18] <k1l> !ask | cisconinja
[14:18] <cfhowlett> jondavis that's true, but it's not in the repos yet.  feel free to download and manually install at your own risk.
[14:19] <cisconinja> k1l: ahhh so i pipe it to user name
[14:19] <cisconinja> cool thankd
[14:19] <cfhowlett> jondavis and peppermint is not supported here
[14:19] <cisconinja> s/thakd/thanks
[14:19] <jondavis> Peppermint Linux OS is a cloud-centric OS based on Lubuntu, a derivative of the Ubuntu Linux operating system that uses the LXDE desktop environment
[14:20] <cfhowlett> jondavis we know.  nevertheless it is NOT supported on this channel as it's not an official ubuntu flavor
[14:20] <jondavis> no one is in the chat of peperment
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !flavor
[14:20] <k1l> jondavis: you were told how to solve your issue. for further support see peppermints support.
[14:22] <SamGoody> hi, simple bash q but im not sure where to ask. I have folders [a.jpg, a.doc, a.xml], [b.doc, b.osd, b.lsd]. Several hundred such folders. I want to create a new structure, with all jpgs in one folder, all docs in another, etc.
[14:23] <jondavis> not much on support on peppermint
[14:23] <jondavis> this is why i try on here
[14:23] <SamGoody> http://pastebin.com/mPSUEASN
[14:23] <dioioib> SamGoody: do they need to be in the respective  a, b, ŌĆ” folders?
[14:23] <cfhowlett> jondavis your choice of linux.
[14:24] <SamGoody> No, no subfolders
[14:24] <k1l> jondavis: if support is crucial for you dont use a flavour with bad support. your choice. enough now on that topic
[14:24] <cfhowlett> jondavis the only support offered here for is for linux flavors.  sorry
[14:24] <jondavis> peppermint
[14:24] <SamGoody> Want all jpgs lumped together, etc.
[14:24] <dioioib> ok. give me a second I will see what I can come up with for you.
[14:25] <cfhowlett> SamGoody there is the #bash channel ...
[14:25] <SamGoody> Ah, ok, then will scurry on to there
[14:25] <SamGoody> Thanks
[14:25] <cfhowlett> SamGoody best of luck
[14:26] <dioioib> do any of them have the same file name?
[14:26] <SamGoody> no, all unique names. Thank you
[14:29] <dioioib> SamGoody: I just sent you a message with the syntax
[14:30] <harrison2> sorry I don't know where to go for this, can anyone help me with macppc?
[14:31] <dioioib> harrison2: send me a personal message I will see what I can do.
[14:47] <Guido1> do i need openjdk java runtime?
[14:48] <Coded1> Guido1: or the Sun official JRE
[14:48] <Coded1> if you want to run a java program then ya you need one or the other
[14:49] <Guido1> Coded1: how do i know if i have a java program and does it include the one on websides?
[14:49] <Guido1> do i also need and KNetAttach??
[14:49] <jackbrown> Does Ubuntu Trusty supports Optimus technology ?
[14:50] <Coded1> Guido1: what are you trying to run?
[14:50] <Coded1> Guido1: try running "java -version" from the command line and see what you get
[14:50] <Guido1> just some basic programs on a clean system
[14:51] <Guido1> this programs are instaled, but i do not know if i have to keep them - i do not start them manualy
[14:51] <Coded1> are any of your programs complaining that java isnt installed?
[14:52] <Guido1> Coded1: no, but as i sayed openjdk java runtime and KNetAttach are pre instaled
[14:53] <Coded1> you can remove them if you want, KNetAttach seems like a KDE library
[14:53] <jackbrown> Does Ubuntu Trusty supports Optimus technology ?
[14:53] <Coded1> it won't slow your system down if you have them installed though
[14:53] <Coded1> jackbrown: that's the one with 2 GPUs right?
[14:54] <Guido1> Coded1: okee, than keeping is maybe the save side
[14:54] <jackbrown> Coded1: yeah usually Intel HD4000 + Nvidia
[14:54] <Coded1> Guido1: ya it should be ok,  I have the Sun JDK for 6,7,8 installed and all is good here
[14:55] <Coded1> jackbrown: http://bumblebee-project.org/
[15:11] <juan_> hola
[15:11] <daftykins> hi
[15:19] <Fagioli> hi all
[15:19] <daftykins> greetings.
[15:24] <zjh> so many peoples!
[15:24] <Fagioli> 14.04 is almost here...exciting
[15:25] <zjh> I installed the Lubuntu just now
[15:25] <daftykins> guys this channel is for support questions only, if you want to chat generally about Ubuntu please move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:26] <Masterjedi688> Hello
[15:26] <Masterjedi688> I'm in need of some answers and I'm hoping you all can provide them
[15:27] <bekks> Masterjedi688: You have to ask your questions before ;)
[15:27] <zalun> hi, a friend of mine has Lexmark P6350  - anyone has it? not much help on the internet I'm afraid
[15:27] <Masterjedi688> Yes I know lol
[15:27] <Masterjedi688> Xubuntu chat peeps told me to come to you guys because of my PC specs
[15:28] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: do they believe it's too old to run Xubuntu?
[15:29] <bekks> Masterjedi688: Whats your actual support question then?
[15:30] <tfh> how can I select text and paste it in ubuntu 13.10 on lenovo ideapad (using the touchpad), I used to press simultaneously the right and left buttons, this doesn't work in this new laptop
[15:30] <Masterjedi688> Here they are...1 GB can expand to 2 GB, Intel Celeron r CPU 2.53GHz, 27.2 GB hard drive, windows xp home edition service pack 3, 64 bit.  My PC is 7-8 years old and is slow.  It's wireless desktop with a wireless stick to connect to the Internet.  Is lubuntu the right OS for my PC?
[15:30] <Dreadlish> 2gb of ram is a lot of space
[15:31] <Masterjedi688> I only have 1 GB installed
[15:31] <zjh> I have bough one latest notebook
[15:32] <zjh> This notebook has 8GB memory , 64 bits, 4 cores 8 threads
[15:32] <zjh> I toke it yesterday
[15:32] <zjh> 1GB is too less
[15:33] <zjh> Event if you install the ubuntu
[15:34] <Masterjedi688> Is lubuntu the right OS for my PC since it's old?
[15:34] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: Lubuntu would be your best bet but 1GB will be a struggle. have you downloaded it and put it on a flash drive or DVD to test it out?
[15:34] <Masterjedi688> No I haven't
[15:34] <zjh> LXFE
[15:34] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: i'd recommend the above as you'd need to check whether that wireless dongle of yours works
[15:35] <Masterjedi688> The only DVDs I have are for music and I don't have a flash USB dongle
[15:36] <zjh> Just keep one flash USB
[15:36] <zjh> and install with USB
[15:36] <Masterjedi688> I don't have a flash USB
[15:36] <zjh> Just take one , not too expensive
[15:37] <bigred15> Hi all, has anyone managed to successfully install IBM Notes 8.5.3 on Ubuntu 14.04 (Beta)?
[15:37] <daftykins> bigred15: #ubuntu+1 for trusty talk
[15:37] <bigred15> Cheers daftykins.
[15:37] <Masterjedi688> The wireless dongle is connected to the front of my PC if I remove, I lose the connection for the Internet
[15:38] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: ok, so if your computer has a CD/DVD writer you're going to need to either buy blank disks, or buy a cheap (at least 4GB) USB flash drive in order to try and/or install ubuntu
[15:39] <Masterjedi688> I have blank disks but there for music
[15:39] <Masterjedi688> I not sure I can download Ubuntu on those
[15:40] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: yeah they'd work, a blank CD-R is the same no matter whether for audio or data
[15:40] <Masterjedi688> Sweet
[15:40] <Masterjedi688> Sorry I'm not tech savvy
[15:40] <daftykins> that's ok
[15:40] <daftykins> are you in XP right now on that machine?
[15:40] <Masterjedi688> Right now I'm using my iPad
[15:40] <Masterjedi688> My PC is off
[15:40] <daftykins> ah ok
[15:41] <daftykins> if you switch it on and visit lubuntu.net you can download the disk image (.ISO file) for Lubuntu
[15:41] <Masterjedi688> Ok, I will give it a try.  Do I have to download a torrent first?
[15:43] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: no they have web links too
[15:43] <Masterjedi688> Great
[15:43] <zjh> directly download
[15:44] <Masterjedi688> So download Ubuntu not lubuntu?
[15:44] <daftykins> no
[15:44] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: could you grab your blank CDs and check whether they show a size in MB on them?
[15:44] <daftykins> ideally they'd be 700MB
[15:44] <zjh> Lubuntu
[15:44] <zjh> unity desktop is too heavy
[15:44] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: grab this one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.10/release/lubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso
[15:45] <zjh> lxfe or xfce  is lightweight
[15:45] <Masterjedi688> 700 Mb
[15:46] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: excellent
[15:46] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: so if you don't have a CD writing program for .ISO files i would highly recommend the free "imgburn" from http://imgburn.com/
[15:46] <zjh> install with CD is too slow, I think
[15:47] <Masterjedi688> My PC can rip and burn and copy music
[15:47] <zjh> Somebody like install with hardisk
[15:47] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: yeah burning .ISO image files in XP is a bit more specialist though
[15:47] <daftykins> zjh: well he's not got a flash drive so there's not much choice ;)
[15:48] <zjh> daftykins, is it very hard to get a flash driver ?
[15:49] <Masterjedi688> I think my PC can also write not sure
[15:49] <Masterjedi688> Well only one way to find out
[15:50] <daftykins> zjh: i don't understand why you're asking me this.
[15:50] <daftykins> the user has discs on hand, so that's the plan.
[15:51] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: XP can't do it built-in, but maybe you have some software already
[15:51] <zjh> I mean flash driver is faster then the cd installing,
[15:51] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: you can't just paste the .ISO onto the disc, it has to be written properly as an image :)
[15:52] <zjh> 700MB  more is the max length for the CD,if the iso file is bigger than 700MB
[15:52] <Masterjedi688> I can give it a try
[15:53] <daftykins> zjh: right but he needs to test before installing :P
[15:53] <daftykins> zjh: you're just complicating matters unnecessarily ;) keep it simple!
[15:54] <zjh> :P
[15:56] <zjh> I have to sleep now,
[15:57] <daftykins> bye o/
[15:59] <Baako> how do i set up the touchscreen on my pc?
[15:59] <Baako> my pc is a touchscreen with works on windows 0S
[16:00] <Baako> but i dont know how to activate it on ubuntu
[16:02] <daftykins> Baako: is this 13.10 ?
[16:02] <Baako> daftykins yes
[16:03] <daftykins> i had vaguely heard that they're meant to work out of the box in recent versions
[16:03] <daftykins> Baako: have you tried googling for your laptop model?
[16:04] <Baako> daftykins its a pc
[16:04] <Baako> packard bell la6524
[16:05] <daftykins> an all in one kind of thing or do you have some kind of touchscreen add-on ?
[16:05] <Baako> daftykins its a oneTWO
[16:06] <Baako> daftykins yea all in one
[16:06] <Masterjedi688> Dactylic s?
[16:06] <Masterjedi688> Daftykins?
[16:06] <daftykins> Baako: so when you touch the screen does the mouse pointer do anything?
[16:06] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: yes?
[16:06] <Masterjedi688> I'm on the website
[16:07] <Baako> daftykins yes it does. when am booting to windows i can use the mouse and touch function as well
[16:07] <Masterjedi688> It says to use a 32 bit for a 64 bit torrent
[16:08] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: so on lubuntu.net click the very first "Download lubuntu (Intel x86) desktop CD"
[16:08] <daftykins> Baako: right but it already works in ubuntu?
[16:09] <Baako> daftykins what is working on ubuntu?
[16:09] <daftykins> Baako: does touching the screen make the mouse pointer move around the ubuntu desktop?
[16:09] <Baako> daftykins no thats why i asked the question in the first place
[16:10] <Masterjedi688> I only see torrents for 32 and 64 bits I don't see i86 anywhere
[16:10] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: you are on lubuntu.net yes?
[16:10] <Masterjedi688> Yes
[16:10] <daftykins> so the very front page
[16:10] <Masterjedi688> Oh wait now I see it
[16:10] <daftykins> don't click anything, "Lubuntu is a fast... blah blah"
[16:11] <daftykins> ;)
[16:11] <Baako> daftykins i need to update the driver maybe that will make it work
[16:11] <Masterjedi688> Don't click the torrent one?
[16:12] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: no because then you'll have to play around with a torrent client and so on
[16:13] <daftykins> Baako: right but like i said they're *meant* to work out of the box, so different peoples ideas of 'working' are very different
[16:14] <daftykins> Masterjedi688: so what's the ETA?
[16:15] <Baako> daftykins it is working on ubuntu now
[16:15] <Baako> i need to update the drive
[16:16] <sanchez_> How can I scan my hardware to see if I have bluetooth support? My laptop manual says "BluetoothTM
[16:16] <sanchez_> Some: Bluetooth 2.1 wireless + EDR, USB 2.0 interface
[16:16] <sanchez_> "
[16:16] <daftykins> Baako: i don't understand you. you said it didn't, now you say it does?
[16:16] <daftykins> sanchez_: open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then "lspci | pastebinit" and "lsusb | pastebinit", pasting the links it gives you to this channel
[16:17] <Baako> daftykins got another questions. if i want to access my localhost. i do http://localhost/phptest.php         but i want to do it like this instead. http://myproject.localhost/ where can i change this
[16:17] <fission6> i have a uwsgi process running Its unclear what kicked it off, I am trying to understand what initiated it and also how to kill it -- when I try to kill it it just spings up again with a new PID
[16:18] <Baako> daftykinds basically the touchscreen wasn't working because the driver was out of date so i needed to update it.
[16:18] <daftykins> Baako: oh ok, so it was part of software updates, or the hardware drivers menu or something?
[16:18] <Baako> daftykins so after updating the driver. I can use the touchscreen functionality now
[16:18] <daftykins> fission6: http://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/Management.html
[16:18] <Baako> daftykins it was a driver update
[16:19] <roast_> /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:19] <roast_> opps
[16:19] <fission6> daftykins: im trying but it keeps restarting with a new pid
[16:19] <sanchez_> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/reh5n54L
[16:20] <daftykins> fission6: what are you attempting to run to stop it?
[16:21] <roast_> super weird, i had to step out for a couple of hours, i'm trying to do an upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 but do-release-upgrade -d returns with "No new release found
[16:21] <daftykins> sanchez_: it doesn't look like you have a bluetooth device - is this a laptop? can you share the make and model?
[16:21] <roast_> will do-release-upgrade fail is used with ipv6?
[16:21] <fission6> daftykins: good question. sudo pkill -INT uwsgi
[16:21] <fission6> the docs say, kill -INT `cat /tmp/project-master.pid`
[16:21] <fission6> # or for convenience...
[16:21] <fission6> uwsgi --stop /tmp/project-master.pid but i am not sure what the pid is
[16:22] <daftykins> fission6: yeah that is NOT how you stop services :P you did not read my link.
[16:22] <sanchez_> daftykins: lenovo b570 the website has windows drivers for bluetooth
[16:22] <fission6> i did
[16:22] <fission6> daftykins: i dont know how to find th emaster pid
[16:22] <daftykins> fission6: so run "ps -ef | grep uwsgi" to check the PID
[16:22] <vagrantkid> hi everyone, I was asking this from the vagrant channel, but it seems no one is answering.
[16:23] <Baako> daftykins have you every use windows before?
[16:23] <Lisa97> Hi! Is it possible to install Ubuntu on an old Mac? I would like to erase EVERYTHING currently on it and then install Ubuntu. :)
[16:23] <vagrantkid> do i need to install vagrant in linux box? I mean whats the point of installing vagrant in ubuntu?
[16:23] <daftykins> sanchez_: sure, but all that means is that *some* configurations may come with bluetooth hardware
[16:23] <sanchez_> ah
[16:23] <daftykins> Baako: lol yes, but i'm afraid i find it hard to follow your incredibly vague descriptions.
[16:23] <Baako> daftykins lol anyways it nothing hard i want help with.
[16:23] <daftykins> Baako: you came in asking about touchscreen support in ubuntu and now you're telling me you updated drivers in windows? this makes zero sense to me :)
[16:24] <Baako> daftykins to get to the host file in windows you do "C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts"
[16:24] <daftykins> lisahow old is it?
[16:24] <Baako> how do i do it in ubuntu?
[16:24] <daftykins> Baako: /etc/hosts
[16:24] <fission6> daftykins: this is what i get http://dpaste.com/1778558/
[16:24] <daftykins> sanchez_: do you still have Windows installed to see what device manager shows? (for a bluetooth device)
[16:25] <daftykins> fission6: so 2934
[16:25] <fission6> it just restarts a new process if i kill -INT 2934
[16:25] <sanchez_> Nope I don't, but let me check bios thanks
[16:25] <sanchez_> brb
[16:25] <fission6> i think upstart kicked it off -- its respawning
[16:25] <vagrantkid> do i need to install vagrant in linux box? I mean whats the point of installing vagrant in ubuntu?
[16:25] <daftykins> fission6: ugh, you do not kill service processes
[16:26] <daftykins> fission6: try "sudo service uwsgi stop"
[16:26] <Baako> daftykins thanks. so in windows i set up a vpn access using the windows remote desktop connection i want to set up the same thing but from ubuntu
[16:26] <fission6> yep that last one worked
[16:26] <fission6> thanks daftykins
[16:27] <daftykins> fission6: np, so you must've installed this program yourself then
[16:27] <daftykins> !vpn | Baako
[16:28] <fission6> daftykins: somewhere along the line i apprently made an init script with respwan
[16:28] <mrhappyboy1979> hello everyone
[16:28] <daftykins> fission6: depends if you just installed it via apt-get
[16:28] <daftykins> mrhappyboy1979: hi
[16:29] <mrhappyboy1979> Hello
[16:29] <daftykins> do you have a support question?
[16:30] <fission6> hmmm now i need to find out why lindoe rebooted my servers
[16:30] <mrhappyboy1979> Ok i hope im in the right place lol.i installed ubuntu 13.10 light version.and it wipped out windows 7.now how do i get windows 7 back?I have no recovery disks or windows 7 dvd.yes i know im a newbi lol.
[16:30] <daftykins> mrhappyboy1979: are you in ubuntu right now?
[16:30] <mrhappyboy1979> yes :(
[16:31] <daftykins> mrhappyboy1979: can you hit ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal, then run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit" and paste the link it gives you here?
[16:31] <mrhappyboy1979> ya hang on please
[16:32] <luanpab> hello
[16:33] <mrhappyboy1979> ok here is the link it gave me http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245468/
[16:34] <Baako> how can i locate the vhost file?
[16:35] <daftykins> Baako: i assume you're referring to apache config?
[16:35] <Baako> daftykins yes
[16:35] <daftykins> mrhappyboy1979: can you remember if you selected 'erase everything and install' during ubuntu setup?
[16:36] <mrhappyboy1979> yes i did :(
[16:36] <Baako> daftykins when i restart appache i get this message " * Restarting web server apache2                                         [fail] "
[16:36] <daftykins> Baako: uh-huh, your configuration is broken.
[16:37] <Baako> daftykins i am running this command "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[16:37] <Baako> "
[16:37] <daftykins> Baako: that's the old style, "sudo service apache2 restart" is better.
[16:37] <luanpab> i'm trying to format my os to ubuntu 14.04, but on the last time I formatted, I encrypted the full disk, and now i am not being able to access the bios, i'm not sure if there is something related, but in the time I restart the computer, and I press the button to access the bios, it goes already to the password encryption input, does it have a workaround or
[16:37] <luanpab> something? is it related to it?
[16:37] <Baako> daftykins "Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message
[16:37] <Baako> "
[16:38] <daftykins> Baako: that won't be enough to actually cause it to fail starting up, there must be some other issue.
[16:39] <daftykins> mrhappyboy1979: so what do you want to do from here? do you want to get an installation of windows 7 back?
[16:39] <mrhappyboy1979> yes
[16:39] <mrhappyboy1979> my computer came with windows 7 home premium
[16:39] <timlyo> If you can find the serial number and an iso then you can probably reinstall it and get microsoft to verify it
[16:40] <jhasse> Hi! Was hasn't ubuntu 14.04 RC been released yet?
[16:40] <daftykins> jhasse: what does google say?
[16:40] <luanpab> it is in beta 2
[16:41] <jhasse> daftykins: Couldn't find an answer
[16:41] <Baako> daftykins i need to add it to config file. /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[16:41] <jhasse> luanpab: do you know when the RC will be released? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule says april 10th
[16:41] <daftykins> Baako: no you do not.
[16:42] <Baako> daftykins http://askubuntu.com/questions/80714/how-do-i-restart-reload-apache-when-it-cant-determine-the-domain-name
[16:42] <Baako> daftykins i need to add the servername "ServerName localhost"
[16:42] <daftykins> Baako: that message is not a critical issue, *BUT* you can avoid it by editing /etc/hosts so that it reads "computername.local computername" instead.
[16:42] <daftykins> Baako: no, that's not the easiest way
[16:43] <luanpab> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[16:43] <betim_> hi, I'd like to install ubuntu (ubuntu server) on a usb stick, i'm installing from another usb stick, the procedure goes well, but it does not boot, is there any good tutorial for this?
[16:44] <luanpab> it was supposed to be on april 10th
[16:44] <luanpab> but it hasn't been released yet
[16:44] <luanpab> probably a few days of delay
[16:44] <jhasse> okay. thanks
[16:45] <waterpie> is the fstrim cron job working on 14.4 xubuntu, or should I add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="allow-discards root_trim=yes" on /etc/default/grub ? ..also, lvm and encrypted disk. which is the actual fs used???
[16:45] <luanpab> beta 2 it's seem to be very stable already
[16:46] <luanpab> i've seen it, but i'm not being able to format to it
[16:46] <daftykins> waterpie: trusty talk in #ubuntu+1
[16:46] <Baako> daftykins i am using gnome environment. and i want to add a folder to the file list on the left side. i have try drag it but it always send it back
[16:46] <daftykins> Baako: i know nothing about desktop user style things i'm afraid
[16:47] <Baako> daftykins aint idea now to do it via command?
[16:47] <waterpie> daftykins:  your mean join/ask channel ubuntu+1 ?
[16:48] <daftykins> waterpie: join it and ask there yes. this channel is only for released versions
[16:48] <daftykins> Baako: i'm saying i have no experience with desktop functions :)
[16:48] <waterpie> daftykins:  ok, thanks
[16:48] <luanpab> daftykins: can u give a help?
[16:49] <daftykins> luanpab: i have never used encryption so i have no idea.
[16:49] <daftykins> luanpab: are you just saying you want to get into the BIOS/EFI setup and you can't anymore?
[16:50] <luanpab> yes, all I press when starting goes to the password input
[16:50] <daftykins> luanpab: is it a laptop?
[16:50] <luanpab> yeap
[16:52] <kupo> what was that ubuntu drivers update about
[16:53] <Guest76878> i do not want to be a guest !
[16:57] <Baako> anyone know how to move folder to "places" in ubuntu 13.10
[16:58] <crummy> Baako: hey
[16:58] <chipotle> is it hard to upgrade from 12.0.4 LTS to 13.10?
[16:58] <chipotle> or is upgrading easy with ubuntu?
[16:58] <crummy> chipotle: hey
[16:58] <timlyo> upgrades are generally easy
[16:59] <crummy> timlyo: why
[16:59] <chipotle> timlyo: so i can use the windows installer which is for 12.0.4 and then upgrade to 13.10?
[16:59] <Guest76878> sudo update-manager -d
[16:59] <chipotle> i can't create a thumbdrive with unetbootin because my shitty linux mint computer won't run it
[16:59] <daftykins> chipotle: i would highly recommend never using WUBI
[16:59] <timlyo> By windows installer, do you mean wubi?
[16:59] <daftykins> it is an abomination
[16:59] <crummy> chipotle: You have dirty tounge
[17:00] <chipotle> daftykins: well, how can i get it on a flashdrive without unetbootin?
[17:00] <chipotle> the other methods look veyr complicated
[17:00] <Baako> crummy hiya
[17:00] <timlyo> dd command
[17:00] <chipotle> i'm trying to do thise over the phone with a friend
[17:00] <chipotle> timlyo: link?
[17:00] <crummy> You cursed chipotle . You potty mouth
[17:00] <daftykins> chipotle: dd.
[17:00] <daftykins> crummy: you are not helping.
[17:00] <chipotle> ddel: there's more to that
[17:01] <timlyo> chipotle: try this, it should work the same in mint https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Ubuntu
[17:01] <chipotle> crummy: stop pm'ing me
[17:01] <chipotle> timlyo: nope, i don't have that software
[17:01] <chipotle> and linux mint doen't have it in its source files
[17:01] <Baako> brb gonna change environment
[17:01] <chipotle> how do you ignore someone?
[17:02] <daftykins> chipotle: that is beyond the scope of ubuntu support. feel free to complain about a user spamming you in #ubuntu-ops or #freenode
[17:02] <timlyo> I thought mint just used the ubuntu package repos
[17:02] <daftykins> chipotle: the question arises - why put 12.04 on the flash drive if you want 13.10? why not download 13.10?
[17:03] <chipotle> daftykins: because i can't install via a flashdrive
[17:03] <chipotle> i spent 2 hours trying to get unetbootin to run and it won't run
[17:03] <chipotle> so i thought i'd try the wubi installer via a VM...
[17:03] <Guest76878> why wont it run?
[17:04] <chipotle> i'm out of ideas other than overnighting him a flash drive with 13.10 on it
[17:04] <foolsgold> To bad usb installs weren't as easy as cd/DVD installs
[17:04] <timlyo> I've never had a problem with them
[17:04] <Guest76878> you  ussing an SSD?
[17:04] <daftykins> chipotle: right but just because you can't get unetbootin working doesn't mean it's game-over flash drive
[17:04] <Guest76878> I know i couldnt boot anything in ahci mode.
[17:05] <chipotle> Guest76878: i don't know, i enter chmod +x foo && ./unetbootin-linux-585 and nothing happens
[17:05] <daftykins> chipotle: 'overnighting him' so now it's not even you doing this?
[17:05] <Guest76878> what os are you using right now?
[17:05] <chipotle> daftykins: well, i found a link to install via the forums for a flash drive but it was quite complicated
[17:05] <chipotle> daftykins: i said that it was for a friend already
[17:05] <chipotle> Guest76878: he's using linux mint
[17:05] <masterjedi688> Daftykins?
[17:05] <daftykins> masterjedi688: hi
[17:05] <chipotle> and it's a pita and keeps breaking, so i told him to switch to ubuntu
[17:05] <Guest76878> ah
[17:06] <foolsgold> Uefi vs bios  made usb installs more complicated to.
[17:06] <chipotle> he's on an old version of mint that basically has no packages
[17:06] <masterjedi688> on the website you gave me for imgburn, where do I click to download the file?
[17:06] <Guest76878> mint doesnt have disc burning software?  should just burn iso and boot with it
[17:06] <Shazbot27> video on occasion freezes up on my Lubuntu LXLE any reccomendations? old DOS hack not trying Linux for first time
[17:06] <Guest76878> usb usually fails me somehow. i avoid that
[17:06] <Shazbot27> *now
[17:06] <luanpab> chipotle: try sudo apt-cache search 'disk creator'
[17:07] <daftykins> masterjedi688: the big word 'Download' along the top
[17:07] <foolsgold> chipotle: I found best luck using dd command. Their maybe a GUI for it now. DD is simple for a goof like me.
[17:07] <masterjedi688> LOLOL that makes sense
[17:08] <chipotle> foolsgold: what dd command do i use?
[17:08] <chipotle> luanpab: okay
[17:08] <masterjedi688> Which current version?
[17:08] <masterjedi688> anyone of them?
[17:08] <Guest76878> you cant update to newer version of mint using command?
[17:08] <foolsgold> chipotle: dd will create a bootable usb from an iso.  It's a Linux command line.
[17:09] <daftykins> masterjedi688: it lists mirrors 1 to 7, any one is fine
[17:09] <Guest76878> I enjoy mint. just wish it came less bloated
[17:09] <chipotle> he isn't sure which verison he has, i think it's 12 or maybe 13
[17:09] <chipotle> foolsgold: i know what the dd comand is, but what is the full command
[17:09] <masterjedi688> ok
[17:09] <daftykins> chipotle: so can we start at the beginning? has your friend downloaded ubuntu 13.10 ready to put on a flash drive?
[17:09] <chipotle> daftykins: yes
[17:09] <timlyo> chipotle: You could always try this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator
[17:09] <chipotle> well, 5 mins left to download
[17:10] <timlyo> it has the deb package for download so you don't need to worry about an out of date system, as long as you have the dependencies
[17:10] <daftykins> chipotle: tell your friend to plug it in, run the terminal, run "sudo fdisk -l" to check which /dev/sdX (where X is the letter) the flash drive is, then to run "sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX" where X = that letter. no numbers after, just sdX.
[17:10] <Guest76878> 14.04 will be LTS in a few days. the betas arent buggy anymore. i'd try one of those
[17:10] <chipotle> daftykins: that's it?
[17:11] <root> whats up
[17:11] <daftykins> chipotle: correct.
[17:11] <chipotle> daftykins: okay, thanks! i'll have him try that
[17:11] <daftykins> Guest11964: don't ever run your IRC client as root.
[17:12] <OerHeks> !rootirc | Guest11964
[17:12] <littlepig> how can i fix "start: Unknown job: mongod"?
[17:12] <chipotle> daftykins: just replace x with the drive letter?
[17:12] <chipotle> daftykins: do i need to partition the thumbdrive first?
[17:13] <chipotle> and if so, with what settings? i have been using gparted...
[17:13] <daftykins> chipotle: no, you don't need to do anything. dd will nuke it
[17:13] <daftykins> chipotle: yep so e.g. if the system has one HDD it may be /dev/sdb
[17:13] <daftykins> chipotle: but you *must* check first :)
[17:13] <masterjedi688> custom or full install Daftykins?
[17:14] <daftykins> masterjedi688: doesn't matter much
[17:14] <chipotle> daftykins: right, okay, thanks!
[17:14] <chipotle> hopefully that works
[17:14] <chipotle> dd commands take a bit of time though, right?
[17:14] <Baako> ll
[17:14] <daftykins> chipotle: yes there'll be little feedback until it's finished.
[17:14] <chipotle> ok, great thanks!!
[17:15] <Baako> how do i move a folder to places?
[17:15] <Baako> "places" i have try dragging it but it always go back to the orginal location
[17:16] <foolsgold> chipotle: dd is no slower or faster than any other way. No feed back until it's done.
[17:17] <masterjedi688> Done downloading Daftykins
[17:17] <masterjedi688> Whats next?
[17:17] <foolsgold> chipotle: just make sure your usb is formatted to fat16
[17:17] <daftykins> masterjedi688: right click the ISO, open with -> imgburn (assuming it's finished installing)
[17:17] <marellact> Hey everyone, looking for a little help with server permissions and virtual machines.  I have files on a virtual machine with attributes that only show up as ??????? with a file name.  I cannot 'stat' the directory or file, and cannot move said files.
[17:17] <chipotle> foolsgold: i thought dd does that?
[17:18] <daftykins> foolsgold: that is unnecessary
[17:18] <daftykins> chipotle: it isn't, feel free to ignore
[17:18] <foolsgold> dd if=kali.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=512k May be the command
[17:18] <daftykins> foolsgold: we've alread been over this ages ago :)
[17:18] <daftykins> *already
[17:19] <codygman> Anyone use ubuntu 13.10 on mac osx? Should I just download 14.04 beta? If you use 13.10 any tips on making things not be so small? Edit the greybird theme myself?
[17:19] <foolsgold>  daftykins chipotle Is wondering why usb install is failing
[17:21] <daftykins> chipotle: ignore that guy, i've no idea why he's repeating the entire conversation
[17:21] <chipotle> daftykins: when does the new LTS come out?
[17:22] <luanpab> marellact: just restart the machine
[17:22] <OerHeks> chipotle, maybe Thursday
[17:22] <chipotle> OerHeks: hm, and that will have the latest software, but only security updates for five years?
[17:23] <chipotle> i always use ubuntu for servers, so excuse my ignorance on the desktop editions...
[17:23] <daftykins> chipotle: on release day
[17:23] <chipotle> is it easy to upgrade to the next version that comes out, since it's every 9 months?
[17:23] <chipotle> or is it a nightmare?
[17:23] <daftykins> chipotle: yeah if your friend is in no hurry he might as well wait for LTS
[17:23] <Guest14787> hi
[17:23] <timlyo> really easy, just one command and let it do the rest
[17:23] <Guest14787> how to chat online with cam
[17:24] <Baako> "places" i have try dragging it but it always go back to the orginal location
[17:24] <Baako> how do you move a folder into "places" i have try dragging it but it always go back to the orginal location. I am using ubuntu 13.10
[17:24] <ki7rw> can X be started with statx in a ssh tunnel (for remote access)
[17:25] <daftykins> !repeat | Baako
[17:25] <daftykins> ki7rw: no
[17:25] <Baako> lol wasnt repeating was adding more details to the question
[17:26] <jhutchins> ki7rw: Yes.  More efficient to just run the apps though.
[17:26] <phunyguy> daftykins: what?  Of course you can start X over SSH...
[17:26] <jhutchins> ki7rw: http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs107/other/x_tutorial/
[17:26] <anonKing> hello
[17:26] <phunyguy> daftykins: be helpful please.  If you don't know the answer.... sshh.
[17:27]  * ki7rw is trying to find out why one box doesn't have a network icon in the file manager
[17:27] <daftykins> phunyguy: and have it magically appear locally? the entire environment?
[17:27] <marellact> I am using Ubuntu server 12.04, Virtualbox 4.3.10, & SABNZB to download files.  I can download files correctly but cannot 'stat' the files and move them to post download directories on the server.  SABNZB runs on a virtual machine on the server, and downloads to mounted directories on the server.
[17:27] <phunyguy> daftykins: indeed.
[17:27] <daftykins> phunyguy: ok, my bad. that seemed highly unlikely to me, but i have been helping here for years so i'd appreciate you show a bit more respect.
[17:28] <phunyguy> o.O
[17:28] <jhutchins> ki7rw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/xdmcp
[17:28] <coccobello123> irc://irc.openjoke.org/enjoy
[17:29] <jhutchins> daftykins: In fact, X originally ran on remote terminals off of a central mainframe server.
[17:30]  * ki7rw prefers to use tightvnc but it hasn't worked properly of late
[17:30] <daftykins> jhutchins: i'm familiar with SSH -X for single apps and X forwarding, but the entire session... how would it configure resolution  and so on 0o
[17:30] <jhutchins> Oracle expects it's GUI utilities to be forwarded to a desktop.
[17:31] <jhutchins> daftykins: Read up.
[17:31] <masterjedi688> Temps are good outside today
[17:31] <jhutchins> Cygwin includes a remote X server for Windows.
[17:33] <spycrab0> Hi how can you upgrade KDE to 4.9 under Ubuntu 13.10?
[17:34] <Kangarooo> hello im installing many programms why isnt working multiline code copying in terminal like sudo apt-get install 123 456 -y    and in next line    wget 1234 next line  tar xvzf 1234 next line  cd 1234/   ? it stops after apt-get install finishes. but when it has been installed and doing all commands again then it does all.. i want to make command without && to continue.. why its not working like that with apt-get install 123 -y ?
[17:34] <phunyguy> spycrab0: KDE comes with 4.11 on 13.10... no?
[17:34] <jhutchins> Kangarooo: Because that's not how it works.
[17:35] <anonKing> .
[17:35] <Kangarooo> jhutchins: if i do for apt-get install programmwitchisinstalled -y then it does next lines too.. in case it isnt installed then only it doesnt..
[17:36] <Kangarooo> jhutchins:
[17:36] <Baako> ubuntu 13.10 does have boomark in files
[17:36] <Baako> sucks
[17:36] <jhutchins> !bash
[17:37] <daftykins> anonKing: don't do that.
[17:37] <masterjedi688> Daftykins its done downloading
[17:37] <masterjedi688> whats next?
[17:37] <jhutchins> Kangarooo: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[17:37] <daftykins> masterjedi688: i've told you several times in the channel and in private message
[17:37] <purekennethk> hey guys i am new to ubuntu and i can't find wireless anywhere any tips?
[17:38] <jhutchins> purekennethk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:38] <purekennethk> wireless network
[17:38] <purekennethk> thanks
[17:38] <ki7rw> jhutchins: http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs107/other/x_tutorial/ doesn't seem to address using startx in a ssh tunnel
[17:39] <jhutchins> ki7rw: Probably because there are better ways to do what you're actually trying to do.
[17:39] <daftykins> ki7rw: is your host OS ubuntu too? did you connect with "ssh -X" ?
[17:40] <ki7rw> daftykins: ssh -X -C
[17:41] <daftykins> ki7rw: and what happens?
[17:41] <OerHeks> Kangarooo, command1; command2 or command1 && command2 ( but as you don't want that, good luck)
[17:41] <dcope> is there a way to set a max volume in vlc
[17:41] <dcope> so movies don't have varying audio volume?
[17:41] <ki7rw> i get an ssh tunnel to the remote machine
[17:42] <nannes> anybod here using an iPhone?
[17:42] <daftykins> ki7rw: upon running startx i mean
[17:42] <daftykins> dcope: you can normalise audio, but that's less than ideal
[17:42] <daftykins> nannes: what's your actual question?
[17:42] <majukarma> Hi, i use iPod 4
[17:42] <cofffeebean> msg nickservices identify sudsbuster
[17:42] <OerHeks> nannes, ask your real question and find out
[17:42] <OerHeks> cofffeebean, time to change password
[17:42] <purekennethk> jhutchins: i am already stuck i opened system settings and network but it only show wired and network proxy
[17:42] <dcope> cofffeebean: use a / !
[17:43] <dcope> and yes, change your pw fast lol
[17:43] <DJones> cofffeebean: New password time
[17:43] <ki7rw> daftykins: i get a lot of output but it hangs at setversion  1.4 failed
[17:44] <Guest3549> Hi, could someone please tell me if I download the beta 14.04 today and upgrade it using "apt-get upgrade" will it be identical to the official release on the 17th? Or will it still be a beta version in some way?
[17:44] <daftykins> ki7rw: see that was what i meant by 'no' :(
[17:44] <jhutchins> purekennethk: You will need to find out why it's not seeing the wifi card.  It may be disabled, or it may need firmware or a third-party driver.
[17:44] <DJones> !final | Guest3549
[17:45] <daftykins> Guest3549: yes.
[17:45] <Guest3549> okay thanks guys :)
[17:45]  * ki7rw guesses that he'll have to get tightvnc working again
[17:46] <purekennethk> thanks jhutchins
[17:46] <ki7rw> i've tried a few remote access programs but none of them really impress me
[17:46] <daftykins> ki7rw: teamviewer's alright
[17:47] <anonKing>  :)
[17:47] <ki7rw> apparently that's not in the ubunto repository
[17:48] <daftykins> ki7rw: nope, not the ubuntu one either. download it from their site
[17:48] <Baako> guys got another questions in my conf file in windows the path is like this DocumentRoot "c:\Users\Baako\Working\test"       in ubuntu I have created a folder called "Working" and inside that folder i have a folder called "test" what will be the path to that "test" folder please
[17:49] <Baako> the Working folder is in "Home"
[17:49] <daftykins> Baako: /home/yourusername/Working/test/
[17:49] <daftykins> Baako: but running something with apache from your home folder is a really bad idea
[17:50] <govindarajan> Hi
[17:50] <francesco__> hello
[17:50] <francesco__> i just installed xubuntu on my bro's netbook
[17:50] <francesco__> it is awesome :D
[17:50] <kenera> So this guy is asking me how to connect his iphone (ios7) to ubuntu and I have no idea what to tell him. Apparently there is some issue with ios7?
[17:50] <Baako> daftykins the "working" folder will contains all my php  project works. where do you suggest i put the folder?
[17:51] <Kangarooo> OerHeks: jhutchins: ok so when not using ; or && then all lines of commands from getid pasting in terminal works until sudo apt-get install programmwitchisnotjetinstalled -y if programminstalled -y then it continues.
[17:51] <OerHeks> !iphone
[17:51] <daftykins> Baako: apache's default documentroot is /var/www/ so you could use that
[17:51] <anonKing> .
[17:52] <daftykins> anonKing: stop that.
[17:52] <Kangarooo> OerHeks: jhutchins: now tried ; at end of each line.. same thing.. trying && at each line YES it works if it isnt after last line otherwise it waits for new line to be entered too . Thanks
[17:52] <govindarajan> Hi
[17:52] <govindarajan> i am using Xubuntu 13.10..I want to move to Ubuntu 12.10 server edition without formatting system..Can I do that??
[17:52] <sqlnoob> Anybody familiar of good flash video catcher for ubuntu? Something that can grab and convert the output of .swf file into a video.
[17:52] <Baako> dafykins i cant find it
[17:52] <bekks> govindarajan: No. You cannot downgrade.
[17:53] <daftykins> Baako: should i guess what 'it' is? :)
[17:53] <govindarajan> ok.Thank u:)
[17:53] <Kangarooo> sqlnoob: not on ubuntu only on windows i theres swf decompiler programms
[17:53] <Baako> Baako i am in home/var/
[17:53] <Baako> i cant find www folder
[17:53] <daftykins> Baako: i said /var/www/
[17:54] <kenera> OerHeks: Interesting. They say it doesnt work with ios7. Do you know of any workaround?
[17:54] <jhutchins> daftykins: I'm not sure where you get your information, but installing software in a user's home directory is quite common.  In fact, in some shared environments, you are not allowed to do system installs.
[17:54] <Kangarooo> sqlnoob: u can decompile and open and export and another option maybe is some  converter swf to video?
[17:54] <sqlnoob> Kangarooo : My final resort is to decompile the SWF and find what parameters are being used by the SWF to play video in a website. But, only if I can't a media catcher.
[17:54] <OerHeks> kenera, no, we have to wait for a solution
[17:54] <Baako> i cant step out of home  :(
[17:54] <govindarajan> ok leaving..bye
[17:54] <OerHeks> kenera, and if one comes, iOS 7 will change something, happened before.
[17:54] <Baako> daftykins i cant step out of home  :(
[17:54] <sqlnoob> swf itself is not a video in this case, rather it uses some parameters (based on API calls) to generate the video streaming online
[17:55] <daftykins> Baako: why not.
[17:55] <jhutchins> daftykins The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html
[17:56] <daftykins> jhutchins: i'm going to assume you tab complete failed.
[17:56] <majukarma> Sqlnoob: use a Firefox plugin ?
[17:56] <trism> sqlnoob: if you are using firefox you can sometimes see the deleted /tmp/FlashXXXXX flv files with: lsof +L1; and then you can cat these to a file from their link in /proc/pid/fd/n ... but it depends on the site
[17:56] <sqlnoob> majukarma: tried few plugins. video downloadhelper does not work, download flash and video does not work either
[17:57] <Baako> daftykins i can do it with command but cant see it in the "files"
[17:57] <sqlnoob> trism: I tried watching the /tmp folder for Flash* file
[17:57] <daftykins> jhutchins: oh no i see your first line now. you really think it's wise for a user who's new with apache to mess around with changing the documentroot to be inside home? fair enough you take over.
[17:57] <sqlnoob> but you gave me yet another idea
[17:57] <sqlnoob> didn't think f that
[17:57] <trism> sqlnoob: you can't see them because they are unlinked
[17:57] <sqlnoob> yeah thanks for the tip
[17:57] <sqlnoob> sounds good
[17:57] <daftykins> Baako: jhutchins will help you from now on.
[17:58] <kenera> OerHeks: having read the aricle, which gives packages names etc,  i believe it may be possible to install the unstable verison of the library, i'll tell him to look into that. thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
[17:59] <sqlnoob> ahh thanks trism. I'll keep trying your trick though I got no success right now
[17:59] <Baako> jhutchins  can you only access /var/www via terminal? is they no wat to phusical access it
[17:59] <sqlnoob> like you said, depends on the site probably
[18:00] <chriys> Hi all i just purchased a vps and have Ubuntu 12.04 installed on. I also configured vsfptd by following the steps here: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[18:00] <jhutchins> Baako: I'm not sure what you mean by physical access.
[18:00] <chriys> But when i connect on the ftp it shows me only htpaswd directory. How should I set it in other to access the directory for my web server
[18:01] <jhutchins> Baako: What are the permissions and ownership of that directory?
[18:01] <Baako> jhutchins  e.g. you can access videos by cliicking on "files"
[18:01] <daftykins> chriswk: is it only you who will access this VPS?
[18:01] <jhutchins> Baako: You mean with your file browser?
[18:01] <Baako> jhutchins yes
[18:02] <jhutchins> Baako: sudo ls -ld /var/www
[18:02] <Baako> jhutchins drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 10 23:17 /var/www
[18:03] <jhutchins> Baako: Can you see /var?
[18:03] <alvaroben> hola alguien habla espa├▒ol
[18:03] <jhutchins> !es
[18:04] <tinoco> !br
[18:04] <jhutchins> daftykins: Don't be petulant.  You're obviously interested in this.  Learn.
[18:04] <Baako> jhutchins  i cant see anywhere i can type in the path in the default "files" ubuntu provide i can only click on folders
[18:04] <Guest12828> hi
[18:04] <daftykins> jhutchins: what? i admin simple web servers myself, please stop talking to me.
[18:05] <jhutchins> Baako: I don't run a default ubuntu desktop, so I'm not sure what you mean.  You may have a ".." entry you can click on to go "up" one level, or a "File System" shortcut, go up to the root (/) and browse from there.
[18:06] <jhutchins> Baako: You may also find in the default apache configuration that there is a section on using a custom directory for each user, something like "html-files".  That appears as http://site/~user/
[18:07] <Baako> jhutchins  nothing to go on upper level
[18:07] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. running ubuntu server 13.1 and want to create virtual machines using kvm . . . question: it seems I need US13.1 on a CD/image file to create this machine.... am I correct in this?
[18:08] <kenera> OerHeks: OK I fixed it by having him buy an iphone app that allows the device to do regular wifi transfers :-)
[18:08] <jhutchins> Baako: I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you're trying to do or what the problem is.  When I manage servers, they're almost always remote, and I never use a GUI to manage the files.
[18:09] <kenera> OerHeks: Sorry to bother you with this, idevice compatibility drives me mental :-)
[18:09] <OerHeks> kenera, nice work-a-round
[18:09] <Baako> jhutchins  am trying to get to /var/www folder so i can move some stuff in also set up the git to those folders
[18:10] <jhutchins> cd /var/www
[18:10] <jhutchins> mv /some/file /var/www/html/
[18:10] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, do you ever get to the point where you need to attach a monitor etc. to the machine itself because you cannot connect remotely?
[18:10] <jhutchins> cp /other/file /var/www/html/subfolder/
[18:11] <Baako> I dont wanna for it via command as i will be moving files from my windows device to it
[18:11] <Baako> i will do it via command and find out now to do it later
[18:11] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: Rarely.  At my main job we have Dell Remote Access Console, but on new machines &C we have a cart we roll to the server.
[18:11] <cofffeebean>   someone tell me how to get rid-of the time stamp in xchat & also how to not log-in automatically  pls..
[18:11] <mbalmer> our ubuntus process payments...
[18:12] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: On a server in Tucson I just have to send explicit directions to the people who run the shop.
[18:12] <Baako> jhutchins  is it in /var/www/html or just /var/www ?
[18:12] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, I only have one server (home) but it seems every so often I need that monitor, keyboard etc.
[18:13] <dutchuss2016> i need help wwith a slight issue mounting a secondary internal hdd  ext4 partition  2 tb
[18:13] <Baako> jhutchins  i need to make another folder and move my php project folders into that folder
[18:13] <gmachine_24> jhutchins: so, being without a cart, I mostly leave them attached....... actually, they're always attached
[18:13] <jhutchins> Baako: html is /var/www/html
[18:13] <murlidhar> hi everyone how to reset the sound ?
[18:13] <gmachine_24> murlidhar: click reset
[18:13] <jhutchins> Baako: I'm sorry, I think ubuntu does html directly in /var/www
[18:13] <murlidhar> i am not getting the sound icon even gmachine_24
[18:13] <cofffeebean>   murlidar  dunno..,  dont hear ! :( ..
[18:14] <Baako> jhutchins  no it doesn i just try going to that hmtl and it says no such files or directory
[18:14] <jhutchins> Baako: Other distros have things like cgi-bin/ and other web-related stuff.
[18:14] <gmachine_24> again: running ubuntu server 13.1 and want to create virtual machines using kvm . . . question: it seems I need US13.1 on a CD/image file to create this machine.... am I correct in this?
[18:14] <murlidhar> hmmm is gmachine_24 a spam bot ?
[18:14] <jhutchins> Baako: You are correct, I was looking at a different distro.
[18:15] <gmachine_24> (or any other version of ubuntu that I want to run on a cd/image file)
[18:15] <cofffeebean>   dunno  that either ! ..
[18:15] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: I think you can use an iso file, you can in VMware.
[18:15] <brontosaurusrex> jhutchins, thats web server config related
[18:15] <dutchuss2016> can any one help me with my problem
[18:15] <jhutchins> brontosaurusrex: Yeah, very flexible.  Less standardized than I thought.
[18:16] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, yes, I can use an iso file but I'm new to this and the server doesn't have an optical drive..... so I guess I'm using an iso on a memory stick
[18:16] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: To build VMs or to build the server?
[18:16] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, vms
[18:16] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, I want to build vms on the server
[18:17] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: On Vm, when you are setting up the vm hardware, you can add a CD, and you can connect the CD to an iso file.
[18:17] <devhost> lightdm kicks me out after I log in, end up right back at lightdm
[18:17] <dutchuss2016> hello?
[18:17] <devhost> there is a log in x-0.log
[18:17] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, yes... do you have an opinion VMware vs kvm?
[18:17] <cofffeebean>   hi  dutchus..
[18:17] <jhutchins> devhost: someting in $HOME may have incorrect ownership/permissions.  You can check by creating a second test account.
[18:17] <dutchuss2016> i need help with a partitioningg issue
[18:18] <gmachine_24> where is that bot when I need it
[18:18] <gmachine_24> !ask
[18:18] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: vmware is incredibly solid and reliable these days.  people seeem to have more trouble with kvm, I need to learn more about it.
[18:18] <dutchuss2016> i moved everythign off my 2tb hdd (was ntfs ) some one in kubuntu room told me to format itt ext 4 so i did now i cant access or mount it
[18:18] <jhutchins> dutchuss2016: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[18:19] <Baako> jhutchins one more question please. i have to run this command everything how can i make it ssh agent start when i log in? eval `ssh-agent` && ssh-add ~/.ssh/keys/server10_privatekey && filezilla
[18:19] <dutchuss2016> all ive tried is fromatting with kdb  partition manager
[18:19] <cofffeebean>   dutchus  if u load linux next to windows..,  it'll partition itself..,  or thats how it worked for me..,  any other linux partitionin..,  i dont kno about..
[18:19] <kenera> OerHeks: By "work around" I take you mean "adding functionality that should have been shipped with the device"? It's not as if wifi file transfer is so niche a use case ... :-)
[18:20] <devhost> jhutchins: created new user, logged in via lightdm and the problem persists
[18:20] <dutchuss2016> i replaced windows
[18:20] <jhutchins> Baako: I think you want to put that in your startup programs.  It depends what environment you use, unity, gnome, etc.  They each have a startup file.
[18:20] <dutchuss2016> itts my secondary hdd im having issues with not my rimary
[18:20] <jhutchins> dutchuss2016: How are you trying to mount it?
[18:21] <Baako> jhutuchins i uses both but right now am on unity
[18:21] <cofffeebean>   ohh lord  -  i cant help u there then..,  i didnt kno enuff about ubuntu to try to replace it..
[18:22] <chulis> i have installed gkrellweather but i dont find the to run it ┬┐where is installed? i use lubuntu
[18:23] <timlyo> you can probably just type gkrellweather into a terminal, it'll most likely be installed into your /bin/ directory
[18:23] <Baako> jhutuchins i have a passphare for that private how will that work?
[18:24] <dutchuss2016> http://imagebin.org/305358
[18:24] <Makdaam> hello, where can I find docs on rebuilding initrd with lvm, and cryptsetup+luks while on LiveCD? :)
[18:25] <Baako> also in /var/www i am trying to create a folder and it says "mkdir: cannot create directory ŌĆśWorkingŌĆÖ: Permission denied
[18:25] <Baako> "
[18:25] <timlyo> use sudo infront of the command
[18:25] <timlyo> it stands for super user do and will let you edit system files
[18:25] <Baako> timlyo thanks
[18:26] <User321> I am trying to calibrate my laptop screen but the Calibrate option seems to be greyed out. Is there a reason why it does that?
[18:27] <chulis> i type gkrellweather into a terminal but nothing occur
[18:28] <dutchuss2016> any thing?
[18:28] <timlyo> chulis: nothing at all, that probably means it's running otherwise it would say that it's not being found
[18:28] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: and you created the /media/bruce/music directory already?
[18:28] <chulis> but where is it?
[18:29] <timlyo> probably in /bin
[18:30] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: /media/bruce/music being your mount point
[18:30] <gmachine_24> ??
[18:30] <Baako> i run a commant to delete a folder i just created sudo rm -r -f /var/www/test123       now i cant do this cd /var/www it says no such file or directory. did that command delete var/www/ too?
[18:30] <chulis> ok thanks
[18:30] <dutchuss2016> no
[18:30] <Kangarooo> sqlnoob:  for video streams but only on windows     also maybe manuall VLC save stream     but hre automatic programms http://www.videohelp.com/tools/StreamTransport      http://www.hidownload.com/    http://www.getflv.net/downloader/downloader_mac.php?site=Www.tv3play.se     BUT FOR ME Best im using it on www.tv3online.lv is http://www.streamtransport.com/web-video-downloader/
[18:31] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: well, you're asking your computer to mount the drive to a location that does not exist; not going to happen
[18:31] <dutchuss2016> i cant  create the folder because thats under root and i dont know the sudo command for putting a folder  there
[18:31] <timlyo> chulis: give this a quick look if you want to understand more https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/installation-guide/powerpc/directory-tree.html
[18:31] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: and that would have been a nice place to start rather than all this other nonsense
[18:32] <Baako> chulis i can do cd /var but i cant do cd /www or cd /var/www
[18:32] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: it's $sudo mkdir /media/bruce/music
[18:32] <Baako> is www deleted?
[18:33] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: then change permissions for the mount point if you want $sudo chmod 777 /media/bruce/music     <end code> makes the mount point accessible to anyone
[18:33] <Flannel> Baako: could be.  Can you please pastebin the rm command you did, if you still have it in your scrollback
[18:33] <dutchuss2016> sorry im not used to reformattign in in ubuntu even tho ive been using  it for years
[18:33] <Baako> Flannel it did delete it i had to create a new one
[18:33] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: well I just told you how to do it
[18:34] <Flannel> Baako: the command you put *here* shouldn't have, so you typed something differently when you actually ran it.
[18:34] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: then you probably need to add a line to your /etc/fstab file so the drive is mounted automatically when you boot the computer
[18:34] <dutchuss2016> thhat i do
[18:34] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: ok then after adding the mount point just type $sudo mount -a
[18:35] <dutchuss2016> never plan on shutting doown my machine but  with power outages ...yea fstab may be a goood idea
[18:35] <Baako> flannel i dont have that open anymore. :(]
[18:35] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: which should mount everything in your fstab file
[18:36] <gmachine_24> dutchuss2016: if you don't add a line to fstab then you will need to mount the drive manually every time you reboot the computer
[18:36] <gmachine_24> and I'm done
[18:36] <TheReduxPL> Welcome
[18:36] <TheReduxPL> Is it safe to install Ubuntu 13.10 alongside Windows 8.1?
[18:37] <timlyo> yes, just make it it's own partition and it should be fine
[18:37] <timlyo> although installing may be trickier if your motherboard uses UEFI
[18:37] <TheReduxPL> Can I check if Windows is installed in UEFI bootloader?
[18:37] <Baako> how do to move a folder from another location to next. I have a folder in home directory called Mywork. I want to move it to /var/www
[18:38] <TheReduxPL> "mv" command maybe?
[18:38] <timlyo> I'm not actually that familiar with UEFI, someone else might be able to answer though
[18:38] <Baako> i am doing sudo mv Working /var/www/
[18:38] <reisio> TheReduxPL: wouldn't it be easier to just boot it?
[18:38] <OerHeks> !uefi
[18:38] <TheReduxPL> Do mv ./Working /var/www/
[18:39] <dutchuss2016> http://imagebin.org/305360
[18:39] <Baako> TheReduxPl mv: cannot stat ŌĆś./WorkingŌĆÖ: No such file or directory
[18:40] <TheReduxPL> Then maybe just use an absolute path
[18:40] <Baako> the Working folder have 2 other folders inside it
[18:40] <TheReduxPL> like /home/user/Working instead of just Working
[18:41] <Baako> thanks
[18:41] <dutchuss2016> http://imagebin.org/305362
[18:41] <TheReduxPL> dutchuss, and what's that?
[18:42] <dutchuss2016> the first one is the mount steps comleted the second one look at  the text in red on the dolphin window in the top right
[18:43] <chulis> i have installed gkrellweather by synaptic but i dont find it What can i do?
[18:43] <daftykins> dutchuss2016: you weren't supposed to put a $ in front of "sudo mount -a"
[18:43] <reisio> chulis: dpkg -L gkrellweather | grep -i bin
[18:44] <chulis> dont find order
[18:44] <TheReduxPL> In msinfo32 it shows me that BIOS mode is "Legacy". So I don't have EFI?
[18:44] <reisio> TheReduxPL: I doubt that'd be conclusive
[18:44] <daftykins> TheReduxPL: not necessarily, could mean that Windows was just installed in legacy mode
[18:44] <dutchuss2016> i still cant use my drive
[18:45] <reisio> if your "BIOS" menu is very graphical, you have U/EFI
[18:45] <chulis> sorry doesnt say anything
[18:45] <reisio> if it's solid blocks, you have an ordinary BIOS
[18:45] <reisio> as the whole purpose of U/EFI, outside of restricting your access to your own system, is to make the configuration area pointlessly pretty
[18:45] <jhutchins> reisio: I've seen some pretty fancy BIOS layouts - I wouldn't consider that reliable.
[18:46] <jhutchins> !uefi
[18:46] <daftykins> indeed, a UEFI can have a standard legacy BIOS appearance
[18:46] <TheReduxPL> hutch, I read it already, stop...
[18:46] <reisio> daftykins: and pigs can fly
[18:46] <TheReduxPL> My BIOS indeed got that fancy GUI but does it always mean EFI is enabled?
[18:46] <reisio> if you strap them onto rockets
[18:46] <reisio> TheReduxPL: you asking how to choose between "uefi mode" and "legacy mode"?
[18:46] <daftykins> reisio: you sound like you're doubting!
[18:46] <devhost> still can't figure out what's wrong with lightdm
[18:46] <reisio> daftykins: thomas!
[18:46] <jhutchins> reisio: You're not being helpful, there are excellent technical reasons behind uEFI.
[18:47] <TheReduxPL> No, I'm asking if having a fancy BIOS always means that EFI is enabled?
[18:47] <reisio> jhutchins: nah
[18:47] <jhutchins> devhost: Did you try a second user account?
[18:47] <daftykins> reisio: i am unfamiliar with an individual named Thomas
[18:47] <devhost> jhutchins: yes
[18:47] <reisio> TheReduxPL: a fancy bios probably is uefi
[18:47] <reisio> TheReduxPL: but you can check the VAR's specs to be sure
[18:47] <reisio> TheReduxPL: what does it matter, what're you trying to achieve?
[18:47] <reisio> daftykins: :D
[18:47] <jhutchins> devhost: Same thing or what?
[18:47] <devhost> sorry i telled you earlier but it's busy in here.
[18:48] <devhost> It still does the same thing.
[18:48] <TheReduxPL> I just want to be sure :)
[18:48] <jhutchins> devhost: Yeah, I was afk.
[18:48] <dutchuss2016> so aftter chmod why cant i use my secondary hdd
[18:48] <TheReduxPL> http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/29504-bios-mode-see-if-windows-boot-uefi-legacy-mode.html - all methods there say that it's Legacy
[18:48] <reisio> TheReduxPL: okay, maybe it's legacy, then
[18:48] <daftykins> dutchuss2016: earlier i told you your command has a $ in front which is wrong - can't you see the error it printed?
[18:48] <jhutchins> devhost: So you can get to a console ok?
[18:48] <reisio> TheReduxPL: does that help you with something?
[18:48] <devhost> TTY1-6
[18:48] <jhutchins> devhost: apt-get -f install?
[18:49] <dutchuss2016> i redid the command i didnt notice the $  at  first
[18:49] <TheReduxPL> Is that bad to know if my OS is installed in legacy or EFI? :/
[18:49] <kuku> i'm having issues with the n5321 wwan card in my lenovo laptop. can someone help me?
[18:49] <reisio> TheReduxPL: it's irrelevant without more information
[18:49] <TheReduxPL> I also want to know that if I met with any problems.
[18:49] <reisio> TheReduxPL: what're you trying to accomplish?
[18:49] <reisio> kuku: issues?
[18:49] <dutchuss2016> now i can access and add folders to my drive can i move my stuff over to it
[18:49] <devhost> jhutchins: 0 - 0 - 0 and 1 not upgraded
[18:50] <Baako> my google chrome keep freezing why?
[18:50] <dutchuss2016> yy tyvm
[18:50] <jhutchins> devhost: Well, we know the packages are ok then, it's just configuration.  What DE are you trying to run?
[18:50] <reisio> Baako: are you loading a particular website every time it freezes?
[18:50] <devhost> DE?
[18:50] <kuku> i can connect and after a while it goes away like: USB disconnect
[18:50] <dutchuss2016> yay tyvm i have a 2tb hdd again instead of a 222 tb  paperweight
[18:50] <melt7777> 13.10 fresh install from mini, default pkgs, add xorg fluxbox build-essential and linux headers,  wicd doesnt seem to wanna start....
[18:50] <reisio> devhost: desktop environment; GNOME, KDE, etc.
[18:50] <devhost> dwm.
[18:50] <devhost> lol
[18:51] <jhutchins> devhost: Desktop Environment
[18:51] <devhost> Yes, dwm.
[18:51] <Baako> reisio i open a new tab and about to type something and it freezes. I cant go to other tabs or anything else
[18:51] <devhost> I compile it from source. Lightdm use to recognize it.
[18:51] <reisio> Baako: can you CTRL+ALT+F2?
[18:51] <jhutchins> devhost: Any others installed?
[18:51] <reisio> devhost: hit F1?
[18:51] <devhost> I removed all of unity.
[18:52] <devhost> except lightdm.
[18:52] <chulis> How can i find a program installed by synaptic?
[18:52] <TheReduxPL> I might just try and install Ubuntu 13.10 anyway, I'll tell you about results.
[18:52] <kuku> its like it power cycles or something
[18:52] <devhost> reisio: F1 where, in lightdm?
[18:52] <devhost> reisio: it does nothing.
[18:52] <reisio> devhost: https://sites.google.com/site/lazyboxx/-articles/dwm-a-newbie-s-guide#TOC-Starting-DWM
[18:53] <devhost> reisio: I'll check it out thanks.
[18:54] <AndChat|505161> wft was crtl+alt f2
[18:54] <jhutchins> chulis: what do you mean?  Do you want to run the program, or find where the files were installed?
[18:54] <reisio> AndChat|505161: a thing
[18:54] <k1l_> AndChat|505161: its a tty
[18:54] <AndChat|505161> fack that
[18:54] <chulis> run the prigram
[18:54] <jhutchins> AndChat|505161: Please keep the language civil.
[18:55] <devhost> reisio: I actually have a .desktop file but I'll add dwm-start (a wrapper script that logs to a file) as the exec rather than dwm.
[18:55] <devhost> see if i can figure it out there
[18:55] <reisio> devhost: sounds like a plan
[18:55] <jhutchins> chulis: If you don't see it in the menu, try Alt-F2 for a run window, or run it from a console (you can see errors that way).
[18:55] <k1l_> chulis: why do you want to find it?
[18:55] <AndChat|505161> its me baako
[18:55] <reisio> chulis: I already told you how
[18:55] <AndChat|505161> dont tell please to do crtl alt F2 again
[18:55] <reisio> AndChat|505161: has someone told you yet?
[18:56] <AndChat|505161> about?
[18:56] <k1l_> AndChat|505161: just press ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to the desktop
[18:56] <OerHeks> AndChat|505161, hit ctrl alt F7 and you are back in the gui
[18:56] <AndChat|505161> well I was out of desktop
[18:56] <reisio> AndChat|505161: I doubt anyone told you to press ctrl+alt+f2
[18:56] <AndChat|505161> had to force restart
[18:56] <reisio> you didn't even have to press it
[18:56] <AndChat|505161> lost some work
[18:56] <reisio> why did you?
[18:57] <AndChat|505161> gonna add that guy to my block list
[18:57] <timlyo> you can use ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[18:57] <k1l_> AndChat|505161: the desktop is still running. press ctrl+alt+f7
[18:57] <AndChat|505161> I am using my phone now
[18:57] <AndChat|505161> am waiting for me pc to restart
[18:57] <Artemis3> AndChat|505161, you look familiar.
[18:58] <chulis> it say it doesnt exist
[18:58] <AndChat|505161> yes it me
[18:58] <reisio> chulis: it being?
[18:58] <roast_> 13.04 to 13.10 update failed becuase i was using ipv6 only without ipv4 gateway, flipped from ipv6 to ipv4 and do-release-upgrade worked
[18:58] <chulis> ┬┐?
[18:58] <AndChat|505161> j
[18:58] <roast_> (server)
[18:58] <reisio> roast_: gj
[18:58] <reisio> chulis: what command did you run?
[18:59] <chulis> gkrellweather
[18:59] <roast_> reisio: wasn't sure if that's a known thing or not :P
[18:59] <chulis> the name
[18:59] <reisio> chulis: dpkg -l | grep -i gkrellweather
[18:59] <reisio> chulis: that shows something?
[18:59] <timlyo> ctrl+shift+v can paste into a terminal by the way
[19:00] <chulis> yes it says
[19:00] <reisio> chulis: okay, then dpkg -L gkrellweather
[19:00] <reisio> chulis: you probably want dpkg -L gkrellm | grep -i bin, though
[19:00] <reisio> gkrellweather is probably just files to be used by gkrellm
[19:00] <chulis> says the directories
[19:00] <reisio> mmhmmm
[19:01] <k1l_> !paste | chulis
[19:01] <k1l_> chulis: please put the terminal output there. we cant see what you see
[19:01] <chulis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7246299/
[19:01] <reisio> gkrellweather probably comes with some instructions on using it with gkrellm, though
[19:01] <reisio> and probably also vice versa
[19:01] <devhost> reisio: so i think it's something to do with dwm
[19:02] <Baako_> j
[19:02] <reisio> devhost: hrmm?
[19:02] <reisio> devhost: how many people do you plan on using this box?
[19:02] <devhost> This is for myself.
[19:02] <devhost> I like dwm a lot and use it on other vms.
[19:02] <reisio> devhost: here's an incredibly lighter solution than lightdm, for single user boxes: http://linuxgazette.net/issue72/chung.html
[19:02] <cofffeebean>   duchess  GOOD LUCK & TC ALL..
[19:02] <devhost> I think it's because I compiled and make installed two different dwm's trying to figure out what happened to the original.
[19:03] <reisio> devhost: nah
[19:03] <devhost> well lightdm loads dwm but now dwm is just all black.
[19:03] <reisio> devhost: either the file you're telling lightdm about dwm with knows the path to a dwm executable, or it doesn't
[19:03] <reisio> devhost: what're you expecting it to be instead of black?
[19:03] <KamilD> So I can't boot up the Ubuntu installer because of the Kernel Panic error
[19:03] <devhost> dwm with a topbar
[19:03] <reisio> KamilD: did you get the right arch?
[19:03] <reisio> devhost: can you right-click for a menu?
[19:04] <devhost> it also has no bindings.
[19:04] <KamilD> Of course.
[19:04] <tectonic> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7582316
[19:04] <devhost> dwm doesn't really have right-click menus
[19:04] <reisio> devhost: what's it got?
[19:04] <KamilD> Not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
[19:04] <devhost> I know shift+alt+enter for new URxvt
[19:04] <devhost> that doesn't work
[19:04] <ole_oz6oh> where can i get help with miro??
[19:04] <reisio> tectonic: terrible name
[19:05] <tectonic> reisio: why?
[19:05] <bekks> KamilD: How did you create the installer medium?
[19:05] <chulis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7246299/
[19:05] <reisio> tectonic: 'cause there's already a foss app named 'hugin'
[19:05] <KamilD> By using a tutorial on Ubuntu site. Linux USB installer if I am not mistaken
[19:05] <devhost> reisio: link didn't work
[19:05] <Baako> xampp as "http-vhostd.conf" where you can have different virtualHost" in ubuntu how can i get to that httpd-vhost.conf?
[19:05] <devhost> http://linuxgazette.net/issue72/chung.html
[19:06] <reisio> and a norse god named huginn :p
[19:06] <reisio> Baako: dpkg -L apache2
[19:06] <reisio> devhost: didn't work?
[19:06] <Baako> anyone know?
[19:06] <devhost> says unable to access?
[19:07] <reisio> Baako: dpkg -L apache2 | egrep -i 'vhost|conf'
[19:07] <k1l_> Baako: xampp is not supported here
[19:07] <KamilD> So any ideas?
[19:07] <k1l_> !xampp | Baako
[19:07] <ole_oz6oh> i can download miro from softwarecenter but miro will not wok
[19:07] <ole_oz6oh> work
[19:07] <reisio> he's not asking for xampp help
[19:07] <reisio> ole_oz6oh: what's it for?
[19:07] <Baako> k1l_ i know i was uses it as an example that why i said "how do i get to that in ubuntu"
[19:08] <reisio> Baako: and I told you how
[19:08] <ole_oz6oh> miro is a torrent downloading fro thepiratebay
[19:08] <Baako> reisio after trying what u said before i am scared to run anything else u say
[19:08] <orogor> hi
[19:08] <orogor> since in switched to uefi , my motherboard doesnt  shows the logo anymore or post screen , also the linux console wont   display  ( the screen doesnt  detect anything connected), but  after xorg starts and i can use the computer
[19:09] <orogor> anyoen has an idea?
[19:09] <reisio> Baako: after your system froze and I gave you a command that got you to a working prompt? :p
[19:09] <KamilD> I can't boot up the Ubuntu installer because of the Kernel Panic error
[19:09] <KamilD> Not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
[19:09] <reisio> Baako: anyways, dpkg just outputs text, it doesn't change your shell view
[19:09] <k1l_> Baako: its done in  /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[19:09] <KamilD> Right distro and arch, installing from usb drive
[19:09] <reisio> orogor: an idea about what?
[19:09] <orogor> what cayse that , or how to fix it ?
[19:10] <Baako> reisio no it shown me command line and i should dont anything
[19:10] <reisio> Baako: uhuh...
[19:10] <reisio> Baako: anyways, dpkg just outputs text, it doesn't change your shell view
[19:10] <chulis> so how can i run this program?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7246299/
[19:10] <Baako> you know i should be able to access any chat or anything else u should have giving me a hands up
[19:10] <ole_oz6oh> reisio  normally i can use miro
[19:11] <reisio> ole_oz6oh: what happens when you try to use it?
[19:11] <Baako> k1l_ thanks
[19:11] <KamilD> :/
[19:11] <reisio> Baako: you said your screen was frozen, so you couldn't have done that anyways
[19:11] <ole_oz6oh> reisio it is working but stop when i am in pirateproxy.net
[19:12] <Baako> reisio no i said "google chrome" freeze
[19:12] <reisio> ole_oz6oh: well, that sounds like an ordinary proxy problem
[19:12] <ole_oz6oh> reisio for some sayes ago i could use it
[19:12] <Kangarooo> sqlnoob: about video how it goes tell me too mynick @gmail.com
[19:12] <reisio> Baako: aaahhhh
[19:12] <Baako> reisio "google chrome" NOT system
[19:12] <ole_oz6oh> reisio i think so
[19:12] <Baako> reisio lol
[19:12] <sqlnoob> sure Kangarooo
[19:12] <reisio> ole_oz6oh: well things change :) look into your proxy config/s
[19:13] <ole_oz6oh> resio ok i try tanks
[19:13] <sqlnoob> I decompiled the flash file using the online service showmycode.com
[19:13] <ole_oz6oh> thanks
[19:13] <sqlnoob> worked well
[19:13] <stabone> django
[19:16] <chulis> can anybody help me tu run a program (its not in the menu)
[19:17] <NET||abuse> hi folks, i'm having a real hastle getting a no password vagrant user to work with visudo
[19:17] <NET||abuse> i added the line   vagrant ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL     right under the normal root user line
[19:17] <reisio> chulis: ?
[19:17] <chulis> yes
[19:17] <chulis> ?
[19:17] <NET||abuse> but i've tried various alternatives, checked against results nonline, but nothing i try works?
[19:18] <reisio> NET||abuse: you trying to give them root access to everything?
[19:18] <NET||abuse> reisio: yep
[19:19] <shadowSpace> @chulis you can run it from command line
[19:19] <NET||abuse> reisio: its just a local dev vagrant box, so they need sudo access for everything.
[19:19] <reisio> NET||abuse: then just add them to the admin group
[19:20] <NET||abuse> reisio: but does admin not still require a passwod.
[19:20] <dutchuss2016> any one know  why my moniter wont go 1080p (tv goes not suported if i trry )  heres my lspec out ut http://pastebin.com/EhsrvXbh
[19:20] <reisio> NET||abuse: ah
[19:20] <NET||abuse> reisio: the point is that vagrant itself needs to be able to execute root actions as the root user, without a password
[19:21] <NET||abuse> reisio: I mis worded that, needs to perform root actions as the vagrant user.. :)
[19:21] <reisio> ...without entering a pass, gotcha
[19:22] <reisio> NET||abuse: sudo service sudo restart ?
[19:22] <reisio> NET||abuse: or just reboot
[19:22] <NET||abuse> reisio: i've rebooted the vm several times to test it, the lines i put in just didn't work.
[19:22] <reisio> okay
[19:23] <reisio> NET||abuse: can you paste the file?
[19:23] <reisio> with pastebinit, for example
[19:24] <Baako> so guys in /etc/apache2/sites-available i can add new vhosts? but in which file? default or default-ssl?
[19:24] <NET||abuse> reisio: pasted it,, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7246413
[19:25] <reisio> Baako: probably avoid ssl if you won't be using ssl
[19:26] <reisio> NET||abuse: hrmmm, I think I'd make it match root's, plus NOPASSWD
[19:26] <KamilD> Hi, kernel panic guy here.
[19:26] <reisio> you're sure 'vagrant' is the user?
[19:26] <KamilD> I found out what was the problem.
[19:26] <reisio> NET||abuse: and of course, you still have to prepend 'sudo '
[19:26] <reisio> KamilD: gj
[19:26] <NET||abuse> just double checked it, still no luck
[19:26] <KamilD> If anybody asks you for the same problem, ask if he formatted his usb drive to fat32
[19:26] <NET||abuse> reisio: yes, that's fine.
[19:26] <NET||abuse> reisio: sudo before commands is no problem at all
[19:26] <KamilD> Mine was formatted to ntfs (idiot)
[19:27] <tnk> Why is 13.10 sound not working? I can't get it to work! Seems a ton of people have been having this problem!
[19:28] <jhutchins> KamilD: Linux should be able to deal with that, but not on the OS partition.
[19:28] <reisio> NET||abuse: can you 'su - vagrant', then 'sudo id'?
[19:28] <jhutchins> tnk: Depends very much on your hardware.
[19:29] <KamilD> Hutch, that kernel panic error showed up right after booting the installer from usb
[19:29] <tnk> jhutchins, please help me figure out - i have tried everything
[19:29] <tnk> jhutchins, aplay is giving weird results too!
[19:29] <jhutchins> tnk: What chipset?
[19:29] <jhutchins> tnk: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:30] <Nezzto> folder name change command line
[19:31] <dutchuss2016> any one know  why my moniter wont go 1080p (tv goes not suported if i trry )  heres my lspec out ut http://pastebin.com/EhsrvXbh
[19:31] <KamilD> Dutch, maybe it's about frequency too?
[19:31] <dutchuss2016> however my tv is a 1080
[19:31] <tnk> jhutchins, intel 828011 ich9 family hd audio
[19:32] <dutchuss2016> setting it to the standard 60hz goes not suport
[19:32] <tnk> jhutchins, ran sudo aplay -l - should list, didn't list.. tried sudo chown user -r whole home dir.. didn't hel p..
[19:32] <tnk> tried reinstalling alsa and pulse.. didn't help
[19:32] <Beldar> KamilD, Don't abbreviate nicks, tab complete them or spell correctly.
[19:32] <jhutchins> tnk: Try removing pulse
[19:32] <tnk> jhutchins, i tried purging it and alsa already, and reinstalled it
[19:33] <tnk> jhutchins, pulse worked fine in 12.10
[19:33] <dutchuss2016> is there an ap thatt will ut my video thru the resolutions and refreshrates testing them all to see wht my tv supports
[19:33] <jhutchins> !sound | tnk
[19:33] <KamilD> Beldar, sorry, if that's so important...
[19:33] <tnk> jhutchins, i did that
[19:33] <jhutchins> tnk: Did you try it with alsa installed but pulse removed?
[19:34] <Beldar> KamilD, The other is not notified if you don't and it just confuses stuff basically, the little the channel asks for. ;)
[19:34] <tnk> jhutchins, no, that was not recommended in any journal or forum online i saw... i thought pulse was how ubuntu was coordinating all audio from a few releases ago..
[19:35] <KamilD> I'm not usually using irc so I'm not used to it.
[19:35] <KamilD> Also how long does it take to resize a partition on a sh*tty hard drive?
[19:35] <bekks> KamilD: It may take days.
[19:36] <jhutchins> Especially a "live" resize.
[19:36] <reisio> KamilD: frequently not as long as it takes to go to the store and buy another hard disk, at any rate
[19:36] <KamilD> Are you messing with me? :V
[19:36] <reisio> it can take moments or hours
[19:36] <reisio> depends
[19:37] <reisio> it's also not 100% safe
[19:37] <NET||abuse> reisio: I moved the vagrant user line to the end of the file instead of the line below the #users gropuing in the file, and it just worked. no other change
[19:37] <reisio> using another hard disk is
[19:37] <reisio> and you will eventually need more space anyways
[19:37] <reisio> NET||abuse: mmm...
[19:37] <reisio> NET||abuse: maybe you had a weird char in there or something
[19:37] <KamilD> How much does Ubuntu need to install?
[19:37] <k1l_> KamilD: depends on the harddrive, the size, .... that are a lot of factors. so we cant tell you a specific time
[19:37] <KamilD> I mean hdd space
[19:37] <dutchuss2016> iss there an application i can use or a command to auto test myy resolutions
[19:38] <jhutchins> KamilD: 3-4G, depending on what you install.
[19:38] <k1l_> KamilD: at least? 20GB for system and the rest for /home. depends on how much stuff you want to save in /home
[19:38] <reisio> KamilD: it starts at around 5GB for a base system with no extras
[19:38] <KamilD> Partition is 895GB, hdd is WD Caviar Green. I'm making a 40 GB partition.
[19:38] <dutchuss2016> bout a gig kail depends on what all you want it will auto reserver up to 30 gigs for everytthign on the ubuntu partition
[19:38] <reisio> a 10GB usb stick will run you about $10, maybe
[19:38] <KamilD> I won't use it really extensively
[19:38] <tnk> jhutchins, do you know about sound systems? what commands would help you diagnose better?
[19:39] <KamilD> Also I only have one flash drive, using it for moving data around as well. Can't install os in it
[19:39] <jhutchins> The only problem I've had recently is I can't get the rear jack on one PC to work, just the one on the front of the case.
[19:40] <jhutchins> tnk: Haven't solved that, so I guess I don't know much.
[19:40] <shadowSpace> beep
[19:40] <shadowSpace> \beep
[19:40] <reisio> jhutchins: hda intel?
[19:40] <shadowSpace> ?
[19:40] <reisio> KamilD: get another? :)
[19:40] <reisio> they're cheap
[19:40] <jhutchins> tnk: You can search for your chipset on the wiki, or on the alsa support pages and see if they have something in the forums.
[19:40] <KamilD> I know but now I'm saving money
[19:40] <reisio> KamilD: time is money
[19:40] <reisio> if it takes you more than an hour to resize a partition, you have lost money
[19:40] <KamilD> Except if you don't have a job
[19:41] <reisio> not really
[19:41] <KamilD> :P
[19:41] <reisio> an hour's worth of credit spent vs two hours of time lost, you'd still be smarter to spend the credit
[19:41] <reisio> but if you don't have a job, you probably shouldn't be playing on your computer anyways
[19:42] <tnk> Anybody else have direct experience solving the Audio problems of 13.10? It seems a very frequent problem... I have no sound, only dummy output - and can't get the system to see the chips, apparently?
[19:42] <KamilD> Huh, I'm still in school
[19:42] <KamilD> That's why I don't have a job you know...
[19:42] <jhutchins> reisio: Yes, intel.
[19:43] <KamilD> Resizing finished, it wasn't that bad
[19:43] <KamilD> 20 minutes
[19:43] <reisio> tnk: what's the audio device?
[19:44] <reisio> KamilD: and what're you paying for school with?
[19:44] <jhutchins> tnk: lspci -nn | grep -i audio
[19:44] <reisio> jhutchins: been through this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto#Choosing_Your_Model
[19:44] <KamilD> Money... but let's break that topic
[19:45] <reisio> well I already knew the answer, it just seemed that you didn't :p
[19:45] <KamilD> What mounting point should I set for a new partition?
[19:45] <tnk> reisio, the onboard chipset audio card.. i upgraded to 13.10, and now sound doesn't work
[19:45] <Nezzto> I would like to host a web forum, are there any recommendations on what to use?
[19:45] <jhutchins> KamilD: Depends on what you want to do with it.
[19:45] <reisio> KamilD: just for data storage?
[19:45] <KamilD> OS installing
[19:46] <reisio> Nezzto: punbb or fluxbb as it might be known now
[19:46] <KamilD> Ubuntu ofc
[19:46] <tnk> jhutchins, reisio http://paste.ubuntu.com/7246504/
[19:46] <jhutchins> KamilD: It will be /
[19:46] <KamilD> Okay then. Partition type should be logical then, jhutchins?
[19:46] <reisio> KamilD: what OS are you using now?
[19:47] <KamilD> Windows 8.1. I'm on Ubuntu installer right now.
[19:47] <reisio> tnk: laptop?
[19:48] <jhutchins> reisio: That post is from 2008.
[19:48] <reisio> jhutchins: what post?
[19:48] <jhutchins> KamilD: Yes.  You should have a seperate swap partition.
[19:48] <reisio> KamilD: how do you plan on installing Ubuntu?
[19:48] <jhutchins> reisio: The intel sound page.
[19:48] <KamilD> Swap partition? Is 4GB RAM too few for Ubuntu?
[19:49] <reisio> jhutchins: still works the exact same way AFAIK
[19:49] <reisio> KamilD: 4gb is plenty
[19:49] <Nezzto> Thanks Reisio
[19:49] <k1l_> KamilD: swap = ram size
[19:49] <k1l_> if hibernation is needed
[19:49] <KamilD> reisio, I started the installer from usb drive and I want to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8.1
[19:49] <jhutchins> KamilD: I have a system with 512M that works fine.
[19:49] <reisio> Nezzto: yeah I'd go with flux, probably
[19:49] <reisio> Nezzto: I'd actually find something not written in PHP, but that's a lot of work
[19:50] <reisio> KamilD: okay, you don't have to worry about mounting things manually then
[19:50] <Nezzto> I had tried mediawiki but i was not happy.
[19:50] <reisio> KamilD: partitioning, maybe, maybe that's what you're doing
[19:50] <murlidhar> hi can anyone tell me what .xsession-errors explains ?
[19:50] <reisio> Nezzto: yeah, awful for a bb
[19:50] <murlidhar> http://pastebin.com/sWCsLxvB
[19:50] <reisio> and also a wiki :p
[19:50] <KamilD> I hope so. Let's install it now then, partition is ready.
[19:50] <k1l_> murlidhar: it logs errors on your desktop
[19:50] <Nezzto> I was also looking for something not PHP but i am running out of time.
[19:51] <murlidhar> k1l_: my sound display on my gnome panel isn't showing anymore.
[19:51] <murlidhar> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/sWCsLxvB
[19:51] <reisio> Nezzto: hang on let me see if I can pick one out of a list
[19:51] <murlidhar> does it in anyway explain why?
[19:52] <KamilD> Installer asks me to input data for Ubuntu One but I've heard Canonical has taken it down
[19:52] <reisio> KamilD: it's optional anyways
[19:52] <murlidhar> i tried resetting the indicator-sound indicator-sound-gtk2 too
[19:52] <reisio> and you can do it later even if you want it
[19:52] <murlidhar> and it doesn't help
[19:52] <murlidhar> the irony is other users on my desktop have no problem
[19:52] <KamilD> Right, skipped then
[19:52] <Guest11554> hi
[19:52] <shadowSpace> hi
[19:52] <humanuser> hi
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[19:53] <KamilD> Thank you for support :) I hope everything goes smoothly and my Windows will still be accessible :P
[19:53] <reisio> Nezzto: yeah, it's just unpopular to make forum software in a decent lang :p
[19:54] <Nezzto> Lol everyone is happy with Wordpress
[19:54] <KamilD> Including me
[19:54] <KamilD> Perfect for my portfolio
[19:54] <murlidhar> i guess i have messed up something while trying to install and run idjc application
[19:54] <reisio> humanuser: heyo
[19:54] <reisio> Nezzto: :/
[19:54] <craig_> hi, i thought i'd ask a question here whilst i'm browsing forum posts...ive just completed an install of 12.04 LTS - works perfectly fine...the reason for running up the box is that my NAS has died and i need to mount the mirror'd disks...so ubuntu working, awesome, updated etc...shutdown, add the disks...theyre seen by the BIOS - but the ubuntu instance hangs on boot at purple/pink screen - any advice welcome on where to start troublesho
[19:55] <reisio> KamilD: you'll be able to make it accessible :)
[19:55] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: What's "idjc"
[19:55] <KamilD> reisio, make what accessible?
[19:55] <reisio> KamilD: your windows in stall
[19:55] <KamilD> Ah nvm
[19:55] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: its is music mix app used for streaming music on internet
[19:56] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: Never heard of it in my life. What happened? Did it just stop with exit status 1 or something?
[19:56] <reisio> craig_: it's going to be hard to update such an old unsupported version
[19:56] <reisio> craig_: if you're just using it as a rescue, why even bother updating it
[19:56] <KamilD> Lack of sleep due to preparations to the "professional exam"
[19:56] <SonikkuAmerica> reisio: 12.04 LTS is still supported so we support that package
[19:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !info freenas precise
[19:57] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: no ! my indicator-sound disappeared from the panel
[19:57] <craig_> reisio: ah okay, should i be hitting 13.10 then?
[19:57] <reisio> craig_: ah, my mistake
[19:57] <reisio> craig_: but still, if you're using it as a rescue, why update
[19:57] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: Is this Unity desktop?
[19:57] <reisio> seems superfluous
[19:57] <k1l_> craig_: is it saying it is checking that disks?
[19:57] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[19:58] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: We had a similar issue in Xubuntu, run [ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ], it should be fixed.
[19:58] <craig_> reisio: figured the pink screen may be caused by outdated drivers or something random and updating using the built it tooling wouldnt do any harm
[19:58] <SonikkuAmerica> (then rebbot as always)
[19:58] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: i tried reseting the sound server too and the indicator-sound-gtk2
[19:58] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: -gtk2? Is this 12.04?
[19:59] <craig_> k1l_: no writing at all unfortunately - i havent tried to switch to f1 console or anything yet howerver
[19:59] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: no. its 13.10
[19:59] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: Yeah, check in the Software Updater to see if there are updates
[19:59] <reisio> craig_: pink screen?
[19:59] <murlidhar> okies
[19:59] <k1l_> craig_: we need more info. try booting without quiet and splash kernel parameters
[20:00] <craig_> reisio: pink/purple
[20:00] <k1l_> reisio: he means plymouth ubuntu bootscreen
[20:00] <reisio> craig_: the screen was pink?
[20:00] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: the thing is others users have it . i had it too too but it stopped working ever since i installed that app .
[20:00] <craig_> k1l_: understood - i'll go and see how i do that and come back later or another day with some more info :)
[20:00] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: they can access the sound settings from the panel
[20:00] <craig_> reisio: is...booted, now have a pink/purple panel with a black border
[20:00] <murlidhar> and i am not able to run it from my session
[20:00] <reisio> craig_: so just the hues are wrong?
[20:01] <craig_> reisio: possibly, either way - no desktop displayed and no disk activity, certainly not what i see when the NAS disks are not connected
[20:01] <reisio> ah
[20:01] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: Well, we had an issue with something breaking the sound indicator in xfce4-indicator-plugin, it's fixed now
[20:02] <reisio> craig_: nvidia?
[20:02] <craig_> must say, thanks for being helpful, i remember a time when IRC channels were vicious places when n00bs stroll in and ask questions :)
[20:02] <murlidhar> its alright on other users here as well SonikkuAmerica
[20:02] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: My guess is it had to do with the thing not supporting gtk3. 13.10's Unity uses gtk3-based indicators for now
[20:02] <reisio> craig_: that's Thursday
[20:02] <craig_> reisio: indeed, however works perfectly fine when the NAS disks aren't connected up
[20:02] <craig_> reisio:
[20:02] <craig_> lol
[20:02] <reisio> craig_: the hues change based on what disks are connected?...
[20:03] <murlidhar> i opened the sound settings from system settings and it does not show any sound card there
[20:03] <reisio> tnk: how's it going
[20:04] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: Try [ lspci | grep -i audio  ]
[20:04] <SonikkuAmerica> (in terminal)
[20:04] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[20:04] <craig_> reisio: sorry, i'm not making myself very clear, so ive install 12.04 to a disk, this boots, works perfectly acceptable and is for the purpose of rescuing data from a mirror'd pair from my NAS (lacie fyi) - now, having shut down the machine and connected up the NAS disks...upon booting the machine, i never arrive at the desktop and am presented with a screen with a black border displaying a panel or pink/purple colour (apologies my screen
[20:05] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: the sound server is fine. i cant play audio from a media player
[20:05] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: So Intel HD Audio. Can you try invoking [ pavucontrol ]?
[20:05] <humanuser> craig_: What happens, if you switch to an other tty?
[20:05] <reisio> craig_: try booting up, _then_ connecting the NAS disks
[20:06] <craig_> humanuser: not tried this yet, am i right to assume this accessed by ctrl+f1?
[20:06] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: says connection to pulseaudio failed
[20:06] <craig_> reisio: seriously - hot plugging sata disks...im not sure about that - certainly not sure they're spec'd for that kind of action
[20:06] <Dreadlish> oh pulse [*]
[20:07] <Dreadlish> sata is hotpluggable, but it isn't supported too much ;d
[20:07] <humanuser> craig_: right ^^
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: Sounds like we have a big problem.
[20:07] <reisio> craig_: well it sounds like the boot loader is confused about the order of things once you... change the order of things
[20:07] <reisio> craig_: are you using UUIDs?
[20:07] <k1l_> craig_: possible problem is that the NAS disks have errors on the Filesystem or that they need some stuff of raid. so please get the more infos
[20:07] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: yeah the thing is if i login from another user everything is fine and working
[20:08] <craig_> humanuser: cheers
[20:08] <chipotle> is unity the default in ubuntu 13.10? can i change that easily?
[20:08] <craig_> reisio: no idea, i'll need to dbl chk this - i'm no linux dude by any stretch - as k1l_ says i'll need to get some more info for help by the sounds of it
[20:08] <chipotle> to xfce4 or gnome or cinamon maybe?
[20:08] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: says it is likely because PULSE_SERVER in the X11 Root Window Properties or default-server in client.conf is misconfigured
[20:09] <k1l_> reisio: that issue is clearly made by the NAS disks. so we need more info why he is not booting with that disks. let him get that info first
[20:09] <reisio> k1l_: I just asked him for that info
[20:09] <k1l_> chipotle: yes, unity is default. if you want xfce4 try to install xubuntu. or install xubuntu-desktop package
[20:09] <mojtaba> I have a raspberry pi and I am looking for a tutorial to configure openvpn server on it and configure openvpn client in my ubuntu. Can anyone give me a link for tutorial or help me to set it up? (I am in a trip and really need it)
[20:09] <reisio> craig_: check grub's config in /boot/, and /etc/fstab
[20:09] <chipotle> k1l_: what about gnome?
[20:10] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: Connection failure: Connection refused
[20:10] <murlidhar> pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused
[20:10] <craig_> reisio: i guess this on the assumption i can get access to console :)
[20:10] <reisio> mojtaba: #raspberrypi
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: First try [ rm -r ~/.config/pulse; pulseaudio -k ] and then try playing something again
[20:10] <k1l_> reisio: that doesnt help
[20:10] <reisio> k1l_: what doesn't?
[20:10] <mojtaba> reisio: what about the second part?
[20:10] <reisio> craig_: you can't access the console?
[20:10] <KamilD> What does it mean if the graphics driver is "proprietary"?
[20:10] <reisio> mojtaba: they should have a link
[20:10] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: hmmm
[20:11] <mojtaba> reisio: ok, thanks
[20:11] <Baako> <Directory /var/www/Working/blog>
[20:11] <k1l_> reisio: it sits on plymouth showing the bootlogo. so he needs to boot without quiet and splash first
[20:11] <reisio> KamilD: it means some entity owns the driver utterly
[20:11] <Baako> is that right?
[20:11] <craig_> reisio:  just brought laptop to the pc....so correct, i cannot access another TTY/console
[20:11] <reisio> KamilD: and therefore controls it, utterly
[20:11] <reisio> KamilD: usually to a fault
[20:11] <craig_> so basically, completely hung
[20:11] <k1l_> reisio: we dont know what is going on there. so let him get that info first
[20:11] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: voila ! :)
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: fixed?
[20:11] <reisio> k1l_: right, if he got the grub config info, I'd know more
[20:11] <KamilD> Wait, so drivers from AMD site are worse than these integrated ones?
[20:11] <rww> KamilD: it means it isn't open source, so we can't fix problems with it and are dependent on the people who wrote it to do so. this impacts the amount of support etc. we can give for it.
[20:11] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: yeah not the server is connected to
[20:11] <reisio> craig_: it doesn't boot if you try without the nas disks connected?
[20:11] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: it works. fixed.
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Yay!
[20:12] <rww> KamilD: They have better performance in some situations (but not others).
[20:12] <craig_> reisio: it works fine without the NAS disks connected
[20:12] <k1l_> reisio: he doesnt have a running system  with that disks connected. so he cant do anything
[20:12] <reisio> 'proprietary' doesn't necessarily mean not open source, but it does _typically_ entail that :)
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: Give pulseaudio a cookie!
[20:12] <reisio> craig_: so boot it without them connected for now :)
[20:12] <k1l_> reisio: let him boot with out quiet  first
[20:12] <KamilD> What about 3D apps like games?
[20:12] <reisio> k1l_: he just said he does
[20:12] <rww> reisio: It does for everything in jockey, as far as I know.
[20:12] <reisio> k1l_: also, we can talk without your help :p
[20:12] <rww> KamilD: which AMD card do you have?
[20:12] <reisio> rww: hrmm?
[20:12] <KamilD> Radeon HD7770
[20:13] <reisio> rww: oh a package manager frontend? :)
[20:13] <k1l_> reisio: craig_ ok. then go on. i will not invest time in that anymore
[20:13] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: thanks a million. earlier i deleted a ./pulseaudio folder but now i realise that it was of the system wide pulseaudio equalizer
[20:13] <rww> reisio: jockey is the Restricted/Additional/whatever Drivers manager, yes
[20:13] <craig_> brb - going to boot up and find out how to boot non-quiet etc etc...hopefully getting some info
[20:13] <reisio> rww: I'll take your word for it, don't know it
[20:13] <rww> KamilD: will probably work better with the proprietary driver for 3D gaming
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: Now it's reconfigured.
[20:13] <rww> reisio: It's the dialog box we're talking about :P
[20:13] <reisio> craig_: grub config, /etc/fstab :)
[20:13] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: i wanted to delete that and instead i deleted the other one . lol.
[20:14] <reisio> rww: if you say so, all I saw was proprietary
[20:14] <murlidhar> SonikkuAmerica: anyways thanks a million
[20:14] <KamilD> So I'll go and install them then
[20:14] <SonikkuAmerica> murlidhar: :)
[20:14] <reisio> KamilD: they usually "work" :)
[20:14] <EpicCyndaquil> Is it possible to get 256 color support in the base ubuntu cli terminal (without an x server running)?
[20:14] <KamilD> I see why "usually"
[20:15] <reisio> KamilD: 'cause sometimes things don't work
[20:15] <ilhami> Hey
[20:15] <KamilD> I installed them, then restarted the os. Logged in and it's black screen from now
[20:15] <reisio> EpicCyndaquil: yes
[20:15] <ilhami> will I be able to update from 13.10 to 14.04 without installing from scratch?
[20:15] <k1l_> ilhami: yes
[20:15] <ilhami> Good :)
[20:15] <reisio> KamilD: sounds like why I said usually then :)
[20:15] <EpicCyndaquil> reisio: alright, but everything I'm trying seems to fail. ran the command found here, no colors showed up: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/6533/print-all-256-colors-for-testing-term-or-for-a-quick-reference
[20:15] <KamilD> I have to boot on recovery mode then?
[20:16] <reisio> EpicCyndaquil: why don't you use X?
[20:16] <reisio> KamilD: mmm, not necessarily
[20:16] <reisio> KamilD: if you can CTRL+ALT+F2, you can fix it from there (+F7 to get back)
[20:16] <EpicCyndaquil> reisio: because I'm going for an incredibly lean machine, and everything I'm doing does not require an x server.
[20:16] <reisio> KamilD: but recovery mode might work as well
[20:17] <reisio> EpicCyndaquil: X is pretty lean
[20:17] <EpicCyndaquil> reisio: humor me :) tput colors reports 256, so I'm not sure what's going on
[20:17] <reisio> EpicCyndaquil: what's the problem?
[20:17] <KamilD> Okay, I'm in the console right now. How do I fix that?
[20:18] <KamilD> I mean the blackscreen after driver installing
[20:18] <EpicCyndaquil> reisio: end goal? I want to get this working: https://github.com/seebi/tmux-colors-solarized
[20:18] <Baako> i created a new virtual host file called "alldemo"
[20:19] <sakimoon> debian got more user that ubuntu :P
[20:19] <Baako> i config it and how i wanted to enable it
[20:19] <reisio> KamilD: what was it you installed?
[20:19] <Baako> so i did sudo a2ensite alldemo
[20:19] <KamilD> AMD drivers, reisio
[20:19] <reisio> sakimoon: they're both debian anyways
[20:19] <reisio> KamilD: know the package name?
[20:19] <Baako> ERROR: Site alldemo does not exist!
[20:20] <KamilD> I started to install many apps, probably rushed it too much... No I don't
[20:20] <dutchuss2016> ok  i got one for yu guys its ones program related  banshee wont play music (mp3 files) but vlc will i dont wanna use vlc cause it cant use a library
[20:20] <sakimoon> reisio: try asking in #debian about ubuntu support
[20:20] <k1l_> sakimoon: we dont need to discuss that in here
[20:20] <reisio> KamilD: /var/log/dpkg-something
[20:20] <reisio> sakimoon: pass
[20:21] <Kiru> yo guys
[20:21] <reisio> dutchuss2016: what does it say when you tell it to play them?
[20:21] <reisio> Kiru: yoyo
[20:21] <dutchuss2016> missing codec
[20:21] <Kiru> Any of you use Popcorn-Time?
[20:21] <KamilD> reisio, in it
[20:22] <reisio> Kiru: probably someone does
[20:22] <Baako> i created a new Virtual Host File in /etc/apache2/sites-available/  I named it "alldemo" after added varies virtual host. I wanted to enable it so i did "sudo a2ensite alldemo" and got this error "ERROR: Site alldemo does not exist!". how come
[20:22] <reisio> KamilD: figure out the graphics driver package you installed
[20:22] <Kiru> i had to reinstall my ubuntu
[20:22] <craig_> reisio: so now i have grub installed, i honestly have very little clue what im looking at
[20:22] <Kiru> and now I cannot restart the program
[20:22] <Kiru> whenever I click on the app nothing happens
[20:23] <k1l_> Kiru: see their site. its shut down
[20:23] <Kiru> it seems like it doesn't know how to run
[20:23] <KamilD> reisio, but there are like thousands of dependencies... Any tips?
[20:23] <Kiru> nah it's not
[20:23] <dutchuss2016> it saays missing codec but i dowwnloaded the codecs it needs and the ubuntu restriccted section (or what ever it is ) still no luck
[20:23] <reisio> craig_: grub.cfg or grub.conf or menu.lst, somewhere in /boot/grub
[20:23] <Kiru> http://www.time4popcorn.eu/
[20:23] <reisio> KamilD: amd you said? radeon? fglrx?
[20:24] <KamilD> Isn't fglrx the preinstalled one?
[20:24] <KamilD> I have an installer downloaded, maybe that would help?
[20:24] <k1l_> Kiru: see this: http://getpopcornti.me/  its most illegal in most states
[20:25] <Kiru> not here though
[20:25] <Kiru> i checked
[20:25] <craig_> reisio: so i have a grub.cfg
[20:25] <KamilD> How do I quit vi now...
[20:26] <Kiru> @k1l_ no idea what's causing mine not to start?
[20:26] <dutchuss2016> i also need to know what can convert my wmas and m3as  to mp3
[20:26] <gaia_> irc.darksin.net.
[20:26] <gaia_> !list
[20:26] <reisio> craig_: pastebinit
[20:27] <reisio> dutchuss2016: winff, handbrake, arista, ffmpeg
[20:27] <k1l_> Kiru: sure i know. i told you the official program is shut down. that is the cause. you can go on and search how to get the new version. but we dont support warez in here
[20:27] <dutchuss2016> all run on ubuntu?
[20:27] <reisio> dutchuss2016: yup
[20:28] <Kiru> it's github not warez dude
[20:28] <reisio> dutchuss2016: ffmpeg is the simplest if you can use commands
[20:28] <dutchuss2016> ok about getting banshee to play my m3s is there an alternitive that has a built in library like itunes
[20:28] <reisio> for i in *.wma; do ffmpeg -i "$i" "${i%.wma}.mp3"; done
[20:28] <reisio> dutchuss2016: I'm sure you can get banshee to play mp3s
[20:28] <k1l_> !warez | Kiru last time now
[20:29] <KamilD> Found the name. It's actually fglrx
[20:29] <reisio> isn't popcorn time just a hardware pvr?
[20:29] <craig_> reisio: installed, quick read of the ubuntu primer for it, understand what its for - u want me to upload the config file to it?
[20:29] <reisio> craig_: via it, yes
[20:29] <Kiru> no reisio
[20:29] <reisio> I want to see your grub config
[20:29] <reisio> there shouldn't be anything sensitive in it
[20:29] <reisio> Kiru: what is it?
[20:30] <Kiru> i cannot talk about it reisio accoding to k1l_
[20:30]  * reisio shrugs
[20:30] <k1l_> reisio: i showed a link. see backlog
[20:30] <Kiru> but you can check a link i posted as well reisio
[20:30] <KamilD> reisio: package name is fglrx. What now?
[20:30] <reisio> k1l_: a link about what popcorn time is?
[20:30] <craig_> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7246707
[20:31] <Kiru> yes
[20:31] <Baako> rm: cannot remove ŌĆśalldemo~ŌĆÖ: Permission denied
[20:31] <Baako> why cant i remove it
[20:31] <k1l_> reisio: its a warez torrent video player. its not welcome in here. EOD
[20:31] <craig_> reisio: eh that's pretty damn neat
[20:31] <reisio> KamilD: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-propretary-ati-drivers
[20:31] <Kiru> k1L_ it's not a warez torrent video player
[20:31] <Baako> i created a new Virtual Host File in /etc/apache2/sites-available/  I named it "alldemo" after added varies virtual host. I wanted to enable it so i did "sudo a2ensite alldemo" and got this error "ERROR: Site alldemo does not exist!". how come?
[20:32] <KamilD> I'm on mobile device but I'll try to get there
[20:32] <reisio> k1l_: that link says it's legal...
[20:32] <Kiru> you can question its legacy in the US of course, but it's not illegal in most places of the world
[20:32] <Stats_Ethan> .context
[20:32] <vonsyd0w> Baako, what version of ubuntu are you running apache on?
[20:32] <Stats_Ethan> Oops, wrong room. Sorry!
[20:33] <k1l_> the software is not illegal but the link kiru showed is illegal. so stop that right now!
[20:33] <Baako> vonsyd0w 13.10
[20:33] <reisio> craig_: meh, grub2
[20:33] <vonsyd0w> Baako, have a look at this link: http://stackoverflow.com/q/20591889/564196
[20:33] <reisio> craig_: do you have any way of changing the disk order via the connections?
[20:34] <dutchuss2016> is there an alternitive  aplicaation that has a builtin library like banshee
[20:34] <craig_> reisio: physically? yes
[20:34] <reisio> torrents aren't illegal, but it's true freenode has guidelines or something against talking about them
[20:34] <reisio> craig_: I'd try that
[20:35] <reisio> craig_: I think your system is trying to boot from one of your nas disks
[20:35] <Baako> how do i rename a file please
[20:36] <craig_> reisio: okay, ill have a look and see whats going on in the BIOS and dbl chk the ordering or the connections etc - seriously, thanks for your time, very much appreciated
[20:36] <reisio> craig_: or just change the physical order
[20:36] <reisio> craig_: reversing it should be enough to see if that's the issue
[20:36] <reisio> a, b, c -> c, b, a
[20:36] <erkinq3> how can i limit network traffic to a specific subnet on an ubuntu?
[20:36] <reisio> Baako: mv -n foo bar
[20:37] <erkinq3> can i do it with its firewall?
[20:38] <dutchuss2016> ok i downloaded handbrake.deb and ran it but i sttill cant convert
[20:39] <vonsyd0w> dutchuss2016, what are you trying to convert? I may of missed your earlier conversation
[20:39] <craig_> reisio: well what do you know, it appears to be booting :) nothing like having logical numbering to ignore to make things work eh :)
[20:40] <craig_> reisio: oh hang on, scratch that
[20:40] <dutchuss2016> wmas m4a flac to mp3
[20:40] <craig_> reisio: helps if i actually plug the damn power in to the NAS disks :D d'oh
[20:40] <dutchuss2016> and i also still need suggestions on either why banshee wont play or a replacement tht has a library
[20:40] <dutchuss2016> can you pm me im gonna go out and smoke
[20:41] <vonsyd0w> dutchuss2016, i try and keep the discussion in here, so others can see my reply and help out
[20:42] <vonsyd0w> dutchuss2016, you probably need the restricted-extras package to play mp3s in banshee
[20:42] <Baako> in etc/hosts can all host uses the same default ip of 127.0.0.1?
[20:43] <humanuser> craig_: Sorry, I haven't been observant. Did you boot quiet yet?
[20:44] <craig_> reisio: nah, same as before unfortunately - so looks like i need to modify the config so i get some boot info - humanuser i need to figure out what i need to change :)
[20:45] <vonsyd0w> dutchuss2016, you can use Sound Converter to convert those audio formats to mp3. I use it all the time to convert WAVs to mp3
[20:48] <reisio> craig_: what about booting a live OS
[20:48] <craig_> had thought about that, guess this is possible with the install media burnt from the ISO?
[20:49] <humanuser> craig_: If you'll get problems, boot quiet to get the error messages http://askubuntu.com/questions/248/how-can-i-show-or-hide-boot-messages-when-ubuntu-starts
[20:50] <craig_> humanuser: nice one, thanks was just checking some info on nosplash
[20:50] <somebody1> I am trying to find an up-to-date tutorial on setting up a software router of the kind that will enable my Ubuntu box to share wired connection to both Kindle and Windows via wi-fi. Any ideas, ladies and gentlemen?
[20:50] <Hoihe> Ahoy! What does Linux install/download on Root instead of Home?
[20:50] <dutchuss2016> any  suggestions on  replacing banshee
[20:51] <craig_> humanuser: well i was on the same page - thats a start :) at least my brain is thinking the right way (or google is)
[20:51] <OerHeks> dutchuss2016, you should read back
[20:51] <Hoihe> [I've set my root and /home to be different partitions, and it recently told me my root is getting low on free space. Only gave 6 GBs for root)
[20:52] <OerHeks> Hoihe, remove some old kernels?
[20:52] <somebody1> I have this tutorial in mind, but I am not sure whether anything substantial changed since 2011. http://exain.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/making-a-wifi-hotspot-access-point-using-linux-wifi-lan-cardusb-adapter/
[20:52] <leeyaa> hello
[20:52] <leeyaa> does ubuntu need any swap for systems with lots of system memory e.g. 300g + ?
[20:53] <leeyaa> i mean can i run it without any swap or system needs at least some
[20:53] <dutchuss2016> i have the resticted evtras installd
[20:53] <craig_> humanuser: reisio k1l_ - now we're in business - check me out amending grub config files...did it on the fly using the boot loader menu...all that text is what id expect to see from a proper OS :) (let me get the edit confirmed as saved in the cfg and ill come back to you on where it hangs)
[20:53] <dutchuss2016> and banshee still wont play
[20:54] <OerHeks> dutchuss2016, kubuntu restricted or ubuntu restricted?
[20:54] <dutchuss2016> both
[20:54] <dutchuss2016> my os is kubuntu 13
[20:55] <Hoihe> Derheks, what do you mean, "Remove some old kernels"?
[20:55] <vonsyd0w> dutchuss2016, im not familiar w/ KDE music players. I assume KDE comes w/ at least one other music player you can test mp3s in
[20:56] <vonsyd0w> Hoihe, have a look here: http://askubuntu.com/a/6002/859
[20:56] <dutchuss2016> mp3s play in kubuntus native music player but the native music layer desent have the ability to store a library
[20:56] <Kiru> any ideas on why a application/x-executable don't  execute itself?
[20:57] <vonsyd0w> dutchuss2016, have a look at clementine: http://clementine-player.org
[21:00] <Baako> how do i delete a folder? it has a contains inside but i dont care about them
[21:00] <astroduck> Hi! A while ago I was trying to install android studio but cancelled installation mid way (CTRL+C wasn't working so I just closed the terminal), now whenever I use apt-get install/autoremove etc the installation starts again. I did apt-get autoremove and got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7246824/
[21:01] <dutchuss2016> right click it move to trash
[21:02] <astroduck> I did `apt-get install android-studio-installer`
[21:15] <dutchuss2016> in tthe attempt to download and install clementine i gottAccess denied to https://s3.amazonaws.com/github-cloud/releases/14979312/622f7444-8ec9-11e3-9485-b1507cf22091.deb?response-content-disposition=attachment%3B%20filename%3Dclementine_1.2.2.saucy_amd64.deb&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAISTNZFOVBIJMK3TQ&Expires=1397423254&Signature=87BwYSH60DxooWjcdjDouOroFkg%3D.
[21:15] <astroduck> (terminal session stopped working, here's my query again) I was installing android-studio `apt-get install android-studio-installer` but cancelled it mid-way by closing terminal (CTRL+C wasn't working). Since then, whenever i try `apt-get (anything)` studio's installation starts again, How can I get rid of this?
[21:16] <rww> dutchuss2016: it's in Ubuntu's repositories, just install it from your package manager...
[21:17] <Baako> how do i make a folder " writable by the Web server process"?
[21:18] <theadmin> Baako: What web server, how did you install it?
[21:18] <Baako>  theadmin am using LAMP
[21:18] <dutchuss2016> is there a way to bring up  a screen  like windows task manager somethings slowing my computer down and i dont know what it is
[21:18] <theadmin> Baako: ...There's ton of different lamp configurations
[21:18] <theadmin> Baako: Which exactly? :D
[21:18] <theadmin> dutchuss2016: Is called "System Monitor" in the Dash
[21:19] <theadmin> dutchuss2016: htop is a more advanced alternative
[21:19] <Baako>  theadmin forgot the one i am using
[21:19] <masterjedi688> Hi everyone
[21:19] <theadmin> Baako: Did you install it from the repositories?
[21:19] <Baako> theadmin i did it via command
[21:19] <masterjedi688> Hi Daftykins
[21:20] <Baako> theadmin am using tasksel
[21:20] <masterjedi688> Well I'm doing a trial run of Lubuntu and so far so good
[21:20] <theadmin> Baako: Ah, okay, so the default Ubuntu one. Now, what you want is: sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /path/to/directory/you/need/server/to/write/to
[21:21] <theadmin> Baako: To make things simplier you could as well: sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/
[21:21] <masterjedi688> Its a bit slow my guess is because XP is still on the computer
[21:22] <Baako> theadmin. i will be running different framework i will just do it to they
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> dutchuss2016  system monitor
[21:24] <dutchuss2016> ah found the culpret sound converter is very heavyy on cpu when converting
[21:25] <dutchuss2016> can i force it to use less cpu i dont care if it takes it longer to convert files
[21:25] <theadmin> dutchuss2016: nice it
[21:25] <dutchuss2016> ?
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> !nice | dutchuss2016
[21:26] <theadmin> dutchuss2016: Ah, sorry. Run it like this: nice 15 command
[21:26] <theadmin> dutchuss2016: (where "command" is the command to start your app)
[21:26] <theadmin> dutchuss2016: and 15 could be any number from 1 to 20, the bigger the number, the "nicer" this program is to your CPU, i.e. the lesser priority it has.
[21:28] <dutchuss2016> and how do i manage to add that if i ran it from the ackage manager muon
[21:28] <dutchuss2016> and it already converting i dont wanna restart the conversion
[21:28] <Netwolf> http://we.je/run-linux-have-a-web-server-prevent-the-heartbleed-bug-using-iptables-cve-2014-0160/
[21:29] <jbalthazar> Is there any way to resise an ext4 partition? I accepted the suggested partition sizes back in 12.04 and upgraded to 13.10, and now I keep running out of space on / when doing things like upgrading the kernel
[21:29] <theadmin> dutchuss2016: renice 15 -p process_id_here
[21:30] <dutchuss2016> that will make it share cpu withoutt having to restartt it
[21:30] <bradsguitar> can anybody help me with audacity?
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> bradsguitar  #ubuntustudio would be a better place to ask
[21:31] <marellact> I am using Ubuntu server 12.04, Virtualbox 4.3.10, & SABNZB to download files.  I can download files correctly but cannot 'stat' the files and move them to post download directories on the server.  SABNZB runs on a virtual machine on the server, and downloads to mounted directories on the server.
[21:31] <bradsguitar> k thanks
[21:32] <marellact> Sounds like a permissions issue, but I've changed permissions to 777 for the download and the media folders
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> what's SABNZB ?
[21:32] <marellact> its a python program that downloads files from newsgroups
[21:33] <freeman__> could you help me please with ubuntu 13.10
[21:33] <freeman__> I have t510 with nvidia graphic card
[21:34] <freeman__> but brightness settings won' t work
[21:34] <marellact> Idea is to automate downloading of shows.  I've got it running on a virtualbox, and it should download the files to a mounted directory located on the main server, which it does.  But ls -al pulls up the file with question marks in the permissions
[21:35] <marellact> when viewing from virtualbox.  The file itself is complete and can be executed from the server, but cannot be moved from within virtualbox even after changing all permissions to 777
[21:37] <freeman__> where i can find the xorg config file to set nvidia brightness settings?
[21:41]  * majukarma make a big hello sign
[21:44] <ilhami> Hey anyone knows the virtualbox drivers for Ubuntu?
[21:45] <k1l_> ilhami: ?
[21:45] <ilhami> yeah graphics drivers
[21:45] <ilhami> so I can get fullscreen
[21:45] <bekks> ilhami: Install the guest additions of virtualbox.
[21:45] <rww> ilhami: virtualbox-guest-x11
[21:45] <ilhami> sudo apt-get install <what is it called?>
[21:45] <k1l_> ilhami: which OS is inside the virtuallbox?
[21:45] <ilhami> Ubuntu 13.10
[21:46] <k1l_> install the guest additions in that ubuntu
[21:46] <rww> ilhami: it's in multiverse, so if it doesn't show up with apt-get you'll need to enable that repository
[21:47] <Guest11554> q
[21:47] <GothPaw{M}> :)
[21:47] <ilhami> installing it rww
[21:49] <Baako> what is the path to site-avaliable
[21:50] <SchrodingersScat> Baako: /etc/apache2/sites-available  ?
[21:52] <ilhami> rww: was that it?
[21:53] <ilhami> are there any other packages which makes the VM faster?
[21:53] <chriys> Hi all i just purchased a vps and have Ubuntu 12.04 installed on. I also configured vsfptd by following the steps here: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[21:53] <chriys> But when i connect on the ftp it shows me only htpaswd directory. How should I set it in other to access the directory for my web server
[21:55] <rww> ilhami: not that I know of
[21:55] <Dl0c_1> can I change temp of my processor in ubuntu 12.04 ? i got 55 now
[21:55] <rww> ilhami: you might want to tweak the settings in virtualbox if you didn't already, they're set pretty low by default
[21:55] <MartynKeigher> chriys .... open this file.... /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf
[21:55] <ilhami> rww: I set RAM to 1024 MB
[21:55] <ilhami> is that ok?
[21:56] <MartynKeigher> uncomment this line....    chroot_local_user=YES
[21:56] <Baako> how do i check if i have mail server enable in tasksel?
[21:56] <vonsyd0w> ilhami, i typically only assign VMs one vCPU. Anymore and it starts to act up
[21:56] <Baako> what is the command to open the confi window again please
[21:56] <Masterjedi688> Since I'm trying out Lubuntu, when I log off the pc, should I remove the cd or leave in the cd tray until the pc is off or remove it?
[21:56] <MartynKeigher> vonsyd0w .... thats very true!
[21:56] <MartynKeigher> a ubuntu box with more than one cpu wont restarted properly.
[21:56] <MartynKeigher> i mean Vcpu.... but yeah as vm.. stick with 1vpcu
[21:57] <Masterjedi688> Hello?
[21:57] <OerHeks> Dl0c_1, is 55' bad?
[21:57] <chriys> MartyKeigher
[21:58] <ilhami> rww: I will try :D
[21:58] <chriys> seems that it doesn't exist
[21:58] <Masterjedi688> I'm doing a trial run of lubuntu.  when I log off my pc, should I remove the cd before the pc shuts off?
[21:59] <astralnebula> its a live cd?
[22:00] <chriys> MartynKeigher i open this instead since it's the conf file: /etc/vsftpd.conf
[22:00] <ilhami> I set Video memory to 64MB. Is that fine?
[22:00] <MartynKeigher> same
[22:00] <chriys> you want me to pastebin ?
[22:00] <MartynKeigher> u can
[22:00] <astralnebula> Masterjedi688 is it lubuntu live cd? only take cd out if it is copied to your RAM
[22:01] <Masterjedi688> I downloaded it to a CD but I don't think its on my ram
[22:01] <ilhami> I still feel it's a bit laggy though, rww.
[22:01] <Masterjedi688> The ISO file was downloaded
[22:02] <ejuan> hey anybody know if an AM3 heatsink will fit on an AM1 CPU?
[22:02] <dutchuss2016_> clementine doesent come up in the software centere
[22:02] <chriys> MartynKeigher here is the pastebin of the vsftpd http://pastebin.com/s747unAD
[22:03] <foist> I'm trying to duelboot elementaryOS and windows 8.1. Can anyone help? I keep getting taken to the "grub" prompt when I boot from USB.
[22:03] <MartynKeigher> is that ALL of it??
[22:03] <chriys> yeahj
[22:03] <chriys> yeah*
[22:03] <MartynKeigher> is there no page down or next page option??
[22:03] <MartynKeigher> u using nano or vi ?
[22:04] <MartynKeigher> cmd: nano /etc/vsftpd.conf
[22:04] <astralnebula> nano: PrevPage and NextPage works pretty good
[22:04] <MartynKeigher> ya
[22:04] <chriys> sorry i didn't paste it all let me do it again
[22:04] <MartynKeigher> screw vi !
[22:04] <MartynKeigher> haha
[22:04] <MartynKeigher> its cool
[22:04] <astralnebula> ctrl+y and ctrl+v
[22:05] <astralnebula> i second the screw vi
[22:05] <ilhami> Enabling 3D acceleration makes it much smoother but removes all the icons and all. Hahaha
[22:05] <vonsyd0w> aww come on guys!
[22:05] <astralnebula> haha
[22:05] <vonsyd0w> wheres the vi love
[22:05]  * foist loves vi
[22:05] <MartynKeigher> just look for this......   chroot_local_user=YES
[22:05] <vonsyd0w> woohoo!
[22:05] <dioioib> yeah vi sucks
[22:05] <astralnebula> i can see where it kicks ass.. but why so weird
[22:05] <Masterjedi688> I had downloaded the ISO to my pc.  Do you think its on my RAM?
[22:05] <MartynKeigher> does the line say;   chroot_local_user=YES   or this, #chroot_local_user=YES
[22:05] <dutchuss2016> how can i install clementine since its not showing up in muon discover
[22:06] <Beldar> foist, elementaryOS has it's own support channel. If you're familiar with the bootrepair tool try it and use that developers thread at the ubuntu forums, is another option.
[22:06] <MartynKeigher> remove the # if its there. and then restart vsftpd
[22:06] <astralnebula> in nano you can find by line ctrl+w
[22:06] <MartynKeigher> honestly...i use winscp to view the file, or even ftp in via Notepad++
[22:06] <MartynKeigher> search > replace > done!
[22:06] <Masterjedi688> Hello?
[22:07] <foist> Beldar: The channel is pretty barren - that's why I asked here.
[22:07] <dioioib> foist: yeah want to dual boot win 8? is win 8 already installed?
[22:07] <chriys> MartynKeigher here is the pastebin of the vsftpd http://pastebin.com/Uwm6Ypfg
[22:07] <foist> dioioib: yes, Win 8.1 is installed.
[22:07] <MartynKeigher> LINE 70.
[22:07] <MartynKeigher> take out the #
[22:07] <k1l_> foist: for elementary support ask their support.
[22:08] <Masterjedi688> Can someone help me please
[22:08] <astralnebula> check your PM
[22:08] <MartynKeigher> then save  (Ctrl + O ) then exit Ctrl + X
[22:08] <astralnebula> find line 70 with ctrl+ /
[22:08] <foist> dioioib: I downloaded the eOS ISO, used unetbootin, but now it doesn't boot to the install screen.
[22:08] <vonsyd0w> Masterjedi688, can you elaborate on the issue you are having? What are you TRYING to accomplish?
[22:08] <foist> I've also booted directly to USB from bios, but it didn't help.
[22:08] <MartynKeigher> then restart ftp will following cmd>   sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart.
[22:08] <Baako> chmod -R 0777 what does it do?
[22:09] <chowder> Masterjedi688: what seems to be the problem?
[22:09] <MartynKeigher> what does 777 do?
[22:09] <astralnebula>  Masterjedi688 needs to burn an ISO image onto a CD, and boot from it. probably to install Lubuntu. (i think , at least)
[22:09] <qin> dioioib, foist: can yaa dcc yourself, it already scrolls too fast
[22:09] <chowder> MartynKeigher: that means that a file has the "read, write, and execute" bits set
[22:09] <MartynKeigher> oh i know. i thought Baako was asking.
[22:09] <chowder> MartynKeigher: it has to do with permissions. Basically it means that everyone has the permission to read, write, and execute the file
[22:09] <Masterjedi688> No I already downloaded the ISO to a blank CD
[22:10] <vonsyd0w> Baako, which isn't a good idea on a web server
[22:10] <MartynKeigher> yah Baako.... if you do 777, then you letting ANYONE do ANYTHING to your files. - including delete them
[22:10] <astralnebula> you have burned the image onto the cd?
[22:10] <astralnebula> that means you have the install cd, ready to go?
[22:10] <Baako> vonsyd0w even if its localhost?
[22:11] <vonsyd0w> Baako, well technically no. But files should be 755 and directories should be 644
[22:11] <Baako> thanks
[22:11] <qin> Baako: you httpd listens only on loop, how do you know it?
[22:12] <Baako> gin hmmm
[22:12] <MartynKeigher> hey vonsyd0w ... know of a quick command to set that 755 and 644 on a folder and its sub folders/files?
[22:14] <afflicto> Hey all, I'm using Gnome tweak to change my GTK theme but it's not being applied correctly. Do I need to logout / log in for it to activate?
[22:14] <vonsyd0w> MartynKeigher, I got my comment wrong earlier, files should be 644 and dirs should be 755
[22:15] <vonsyd0w> MartynKeigher, check this thread out: http://serverfault.com/a/65416/57036
[22:15] <Baako> i installed tasksel and choose "LAMP SERVER"
[22:15] <MartynKeigher> its cool man..i knew what u meant!
[22:15] <Baako> will this install php as well?
[22:16] <vonsyd0w> MartynKeigher, definitely answers your question. Further down, it talks about using ACLs which I think is a good idea
[22:16] <MartynKeigher> will LAMP install php?
[22:16] <MartynKeigher> php is a language that runs on Apache, the A in LAMP, so yes
[22:16] <MartynKeigher> thanks vonsyd0w
[22:17] <vonsyd0w> yessir
[22:17] <MartynKeigher> :)
[22:18] <chowder> afflicto: couldn't hurt! :)
[22:19] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. am using kvm running ubuntu server 13.1x64bit on ubuntu server 13.1x64 bit; am completely new to this. How can I mount the internal esata drives to the virtual machine...??
[22:19] <afflicto> chowder: ok, I'll give it a shot :P
[22:19] <gmachine_24> or, how, at least, can I see these drives? a $sudo fdisk -l lists only the main virtual drive/partitions
[22:20] <chowder> gmachine_24: I'm guessing you're managing any logical volumes using lvm
[22:20] <vonsyd0w> gmachine_24, your processor and motherboard would need to support VT-d - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VT-d#Intel-VT-d
[22:20] <ilhami> Why is Synaptic not installed per default in Ubuntu?
[22:20] <vonsyd0w> ilhami, it use to be, but they removed to save room
[22:20] <MartynKeigher> Baako .... after installing apache2 on your (basically after installing LAMP server) run this command:     echo "ServerName localhost" | sudo tee /etc/apache2/conf.d/fqdn
[22:20] <ilhami> oh.
[22:21] <MartynKeigher> then restart apahce2 with this command:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[22:21] <k1l_> ilhami: use softwarecenter or apt-get
[22:21] <vonsyd0w> ilhami, save room on the install CD that is. Now, the question is: Why don't they move to a DVD?
[22:22] <ilhami> k1l_ I like Synaptic :)
[22:22] <k1l_> ilhami: then install it and use it
[22:22] <qin> ilhami: then use apt-get to install it
[22:22] <ilhami> I did
[22:22] <ilhami> relax guy
[22:22] <ilhami> s
[22:23] <ilhami> I need a 3d driver for 3d acceleration I think.
[22:23] <k1l_> ilhami: for the guest in a virtualbox?
[22:23] <ilhami> yes
[22:23] <ilhami> ?
[22:23] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: chowder: ok..... obviously I need to do some more homework. Thanks.
[22:24] <ilhami> or how do I set it up k1l_ ? It's so slow right now.
[22:24] <k1l_> ilhami: dont expect too muc from a virtualbox guest
[22:24] <ilhami> I have Ubuntu server installed on a VM and that is fast!
[22:24] <chowder> gmachine_24: no problem. I didn't really help you though lol. lvm is the logical volume manager. You can find a lot of info about it online. Its actually a really nice tool and fairly easy to pick up
[22:24] <k1l_> ilhami: you know the difference between a server and a desktop?
[22:25] <ilhami> I have a DE on that server as well
[22:25] <gmachine_24> chowder, well, I should have added I have access to the server from another Ubuntu desktop.... so running everything from a terminal
[22:25] <gmachine_24> external terminal
[22:25] <ilhami> maybe I just need to uninstall Unity.. it sucks
[22:25] <gmachine_24> am using virtual machine manager to create and manage vms
[22:26] <k1l_> ilhami: which desktop is it on the "server"
[22:26] <ilhami> XFCE4
[22:26] <vonsyd0w> gmachine_24, did you want to use that esata drive as storage FOR VMs or allow a VM to have exclusive access to the esata drive?
[22:27] <ilhami> XFCE is nice :D
[22:27] <k1l_> ilhami: make sure you have the guest additions installed on that vm guest, too
[22:27] <Baako> MartynKeigher u sure thats the right command
[22:27] <ilhami> I have installed them.
[22:27] <MartynKeigher> which one?
[22:28] <MartynKeigher> i gave you a few.
[22:28] <ilhami> k1l_ it's really slow now.
[22:29] <Baako> echo "ServerName localhost" | sudo tee /etc/apache2/conf.d/fqdn
[22:29] <Baako> MartynKeigher i did see the others only that one
[22:29] <oz0ne> yay, found a bug in 14.04 i might need some help to file it against the correct component
[22:29] <vonsyd0w> oz0ne, #ubuntu+1 channel would be best
[22:30] <MartynKeigher> yes thats right
[22:30] <astralnebula> does ubuntu still have amazon in it
[22:30] <Baako> tee: /etc/apache2/conf.d/fqdn: No such file or directory
[22:30] <Baako> ServerName localhost
[22:30] <rww> astralnebula: yes
[22:30] <oz0ne> vonsyd0w, ty.
[22:30] <k1l_> astralnebula: yes but it is easy to disable in privacy settings in system settings
[22:31] <MartynKeigher> hm.. nvm then. not a masive deal
[22:31] <PreSSion> hi! is  it posible ubuntu phones (the smartphones) release for 2015?
[22:31] <k1l_> !phone | PreSSion
[22:31] <rww> PreSSion: plan is this year, so yes
[22:32] <PreSSion> thanks!
[22:33] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: chowder: ok, I made this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7247144/
[22:34] <astralnebula> thanks
[22:34] <Baako> anyone uses tasksel?
[22:35] <gmachine_24> Baako, I think I have d/l it... but... there it sits
[22:35] <rww> I'd recommend against it, I've had it do highly stupid things in the past.
[22:35] <Baako> rww i should using it?
[22:35] <Baako> shouldn't
[22:37] <michaelwang32> i need help with ubuntu 12.10
[22:38] <gmachine_24> !ask
[22:38] <michaelwang32> when i try to login into my server keeps closing
[22:38] <michaelwang32> im using putty windows
[22:38] <gmachine_24> michaelwang32, can you log in to the server on the server?
[22:39] <michaelwang32> i cant if im using ssh
[22:39] <michaelwang32> it says something about lib.so
[22:39] <gmachine_24> so you can't log in to the server at all?
[22:39] <vonsyd0w> gmachine_24, read it. I'm not sure what the best solution is for you. NFS on server back to VM seems redundant.
[22:39] <michaelwang32> http://snag.gy/AWjwW.jpg
[22:39] <chriys> How can I fix a vsftod error 500 cannot change directory I'm running ubuntu 12.04
[22:39] <michaelwang32> here
[22:40] <michaelwang32> that is what i meant
[22:40] <michaelwang32> http://snag.gy/AWjwW.jpg
[22:40] <chriys> vsftpd*
[22:40] <michaelwang32> is anyone looking at it
[22:41] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: yeah...... I need to research this more......
[22:41] <michaelwang32> why arent you looking at it
[22:41] <gmachine_24> at least I got the vm running........ that was better than I'd done in the past. :-)
[22:41] <michaelwang32> i need help
[22:41] <michaelwang32> http://snag.gy/AWjwW.jpg
[22:42] <vonsyd0w> gmachine_24, you could try NFS and see what kinda speeds you get. They should be fast since its all local
[22:42] <gmachine_24> michaelwang32: I looked at it and I have no clue.
[22:42] <michaelwang32> damn
[22:42] <michaelwang32> next time im using debian
[22:42] <vonsyd0w> yea i dont know what that is michaelwang32
[22:42] <michaelwang32> or arch linux
[22:42] <gmachine_24> michaelwang32: that doesn't look like a putty version I'm familiar with
[22:43] <gmachine_24> michaelwang32: are you really trying to log in from a Windows box?
[22:43] <michaelwang32> yes
[22:43] <michaelwang32> im trying to use ssh
[22:43] <gmachine_24> but you said you can't log in to your server normally..... at the server itself
[22:44] <gmachine_24> so that indicates your problem probably isn't about putty
[22:44] <michaelwang32> i can login to my server normally
[22:44] <michaelwang32> i cant login using ssh
[22:44] <gmachine_24> michaelwang32: well that makes no sense since you would not try to log in to your server @ the server itself using ssh
[22:45] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: thanks for your input. as I said, I will do more research
[22:46] <foist> I'm creating a partition for an Ubuntu install. What's a reasonable amount of space to give it? I will have another partition for data.
[22:46] <vonsyd0w> michaelwang32, uninstall and reinstall SSHd on the server.
[22:46] <gmachine_24> foist: how much space do you have?
[22:46] <foist> 21 gigs + 219 gigs
[22:47] <foist> Is the 21 gigs going to be enough for the Ubuntu installation>
[22:47] <michaelwang32> also what distro is recommend for minecraft server
[22:47] <gmachine_24> foist, I would think so
[22:47] <foist> I install a lot of packages.
[22:47] <gmachine_24> foist, esp if your data is going elsewhere
[22:47] <k1l_> michaelwang32: ask the minecraft guys what they suggest. we suggest ubuntu :)
[22:47] <gmachine_24> foist, I've never used more than 2gb for a linux install
[22:48] <k1l_> foist: for ubuntu, 20GB for / is enough with seperate /home
[22:48] <vonsyd0w> yea my VM installs are 700mb :)
[22:48] <foist> Should I use Ext4 for the filesys?
[22:48] <k1l_> yes, ext4 is standard
[22:48] <michaelwang32> use ext4
[22:49] <foist> And I need to select a mount point?
[22:49] <gmachine_24> foist, a mount point for.........?????/
[22:49] <foist> The partition....
[22:49] <foist> not sure what the option means.
[22:49] <k1l_> foist: one is / and one is /home
[22:49] <gmachine_24> well yes which partition -
[22:49] <gmachine_24> what k1l_ said
[22:50] <foist> If I want to share my data partition with both my Ubuntu and Windows 8 installs, what FS do I use?
[22:50] <k1l_> ntfs
[22:50] <gmachine_24> foist: typically the partitions, etc., will be created when installing the ubuntu os
[22:50] <qin> foist: you probably want to make fewpartition if you installing Ubuntu.
[22:50] <foist> I thought ubuntu didn't handle NTFS?
[22:51] <gmachine_24> foist: I have Ubuntu installed with Samba to communicate with Windwos
[22:51] <k1l_> foist: it can handle ntfs. but its only recommendet for exchange partitions with windows.
[22:51] <qin> gmachine_24: on dualboot, samba? how?
[22:51] <k1l_> gmachine_24: doesnt help on one machine
[22:51] <gmachine_24> oh...... one machine. sorry, I missed that.
[22:52] <foist> I didn't present NTFS as a FS option.
[22:52] <gmachine_24> ubuntu will see windows partitions easier than windows will see windows files
[22:52] <k1l_> foist: not for the system!
[22:52] <foist> And what about the swap area? Will that be done automatically?
[22:52] <gmachine_24> er...... never mind. I"m going to shut up
[22:53] <k1l_> foist: if you do manually partitioning you will need to make swap at your own
[22:53] <k1l_> !partitions
[22:53] <qin> foist: NO, patrition: / - ext4 - 20Gb; /home - ext4 - to your liking; /shared - NTFS - size to your liking;
[22:53] <k1l_> foist: see ^
[22:54] <bill_> dual boot trouble
[22:54] <qin> yeah, and swap...
[22:54] <gmachine_24> foist, when I do a dual boot machines, the Linux install automatically mounts my Windows drives.......
[22:54] <bill_> Mine did but its corrupt
[22:54] <gmachine_24> bill_, more info
[22:54] <gmachine_24> please
[22:55] <foist> NTFS isn't an option when I try to create the /shared partition
[22:55] <k1l_> bill_: make sure windows doesnt use the fast-boot option. that leaves the windows partition in a insecure state
[22:55] <bill_> ok ill try that thanks
[22:55] <vonsyd0w> foist, it wont be there during the installation process. you'll need to create it after ubuntu is done installing
[22:55] <bill_> thats the best info so far
[22:56] <foist> vonsyd0w: ah, I see.
[22:56] <qin> foist: use FAT, and reformat after installation
[22:56] <qin> foist: me thinks
[22:56] <bill_> will i lose info
[22:56] <vonsyd0w> not if you have backups ;)
[22:56] <bill_> ok I do but up to last week
[22:56] <foist> And as for "device for boot loader installation", do i use /dev/sda (which is my HD), or /dev/sda1 (which is where the installation is going), or /dev/sda5 (which is where Windows lives)?
[22:57] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: ha.... good one
[22:57] <bill_>  oh well thanks
[22:57] <foist> I think option 1....
[22:57] <astralnebula> i think option 1 too
[22:57] <astralnebula> wait
[22:57] <vonsyd0w> foist, is Windows already installed on this PC we're helping you with?
[22:57] <astralnebula> do u have other OS ?
[22:57] <bill_> I can try this because nuthin else worked
[22:57] <foist> vonsyd0w: yes.
[22:57] <bill_> yes it is win 7
[22:58] <mintgreen> the cpu temperature cinnamon panel icon reads'error'.i ran sensors-detect as root and rebooted but nothing changed.what's wring?
[22:58] <vonsyd0w> foist, uh oh - i give up. I'm of no use. I haven't dualbooted in a long time. sorry
[22:58] <bill_> xubuntu works great
[22:58] <qin> foist: so you do not know on which soon to be formatted patition windows really is?
[22:58] <bill_> But i need files from win7
[22:58] <bill_> yes i do know  just no access
[22:58] <foist> Shit, I messed my listing up
[22:59] <k1l_> bill_: as i said: stop the fast-boot option inside windows
[22:59] <foist> it's /sda1 = windows; /sda5 = ubuntu; free space = shared
[22:59] <bill_> I am old fart that has used ubuntu 10. now have 14.
[22:59] <extravagantdrake> Could I compile Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi?
[23:00] <bill_> ok kil
[23:00] <k1l_> extravagantdrake: no. the rpi got a too old cpu
[23:00] <bill_> thanks everyone
[23:00] <vonsyd0w> ha kil_bill_
[23:00] <vonsyd0w> lol
[23:00] <gmachine_24> so using this Virtual Machine Manager I created a VM and booted it... updated etc..... and I'm just saying this because it amuses me but you know how you need to get the cursor out of the vm box . . it says do Cntrl+L and Alt+L but when doing so almost anything can happen.... LOL
[23:00] <foist> How much for swap space?
[23:00] <k1l_> extravagantdrake: there is a project form AlanBell to try that but that is not official so far
[23:01] <bill_> ill b back
[23:01] <qin> foist: you do want /home on separate partition and you will benefit from having swap patrition (suspend i.e.)
[23:01] <extravagantdrake> gmachine_24: Try using the right side control key
[23:01] <vonsyd0w> gmachine_24, thats LEFT-CONTROL and LEFT-ALT
[23:01] <gmachine_24> foist, did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html
[23:02] <gmachine_24> ok, now I feel really stupid
[23:02] <gmachine_24> but, thanks
[23:02] <extravagantdrake> IMO, it would be easier to create a swap file after installation, and set the vm.swappiness to 100
[23:03] <vonsyd0w> qin, swap is good for hibernation. Not suspend. Suspend is to memory
[23:03] <Guest76480> my hibernatiom is always faded out
[23:04] <extravagantdrake> Suspending lowers your computers life span, because on certain hardware only hibernation turns off the PC
[23:04] <Agent_Smith_BR> .
[23:04] <foist> One rule of thumb which works well is to use as much swap as you have system memory.
[23:04] <chriys> Really need help when I log on my ftp (a vsftpd server running on Ubuntu 12.04) it shows 500 oops cannot change directory /incoming
[23:04] <Guest76480> suspend has alway sbeen fishy with linux.
[23:04] <Guest76480> either shuts off my wifi or wont boot or something wacky heh
[23:04] <Guest76480> hibernation works fine for me via terminal though
[23:04] <vonsyd0w> extravagantdrake, huh? I suspend all the time. I basically never shutdown my laptop. EVER.
[23:05] <elroy> what is the exact command for changing temperature in Redshift...I tried gtk-redshift -t 6500:3700....but didn't the screen shade
[23:05] <foist> So, on 4gb of ram, I want 4096 mb of swap space?
[23:05] <elroy> didnt change the screen shade
[23:05] <gmachine_24> foist, using that rule you cited, yes
[23:05] <wheatthin> foist, you might never use that much swap, but it's a good rule of thumb
[23:05] <extravagantdrake> 4GB ram, you probably don't need swap space, but 4096MB or 8GB swap should be enough
[23:06] <qin> vonsyd0w: my bad ;)
[23:06] <Meerkat> it's mainly for hibernation or what-ya-call-it.
[23:06] <extravagantdrake> I once added 20GB swap on an installation, because it was left over
[23:06] <wheatthin> I have 10gb of fb-dimm and still use 25mb of swap
[23:06] <foist> I want to explicitly create a partition for /home?
[23:07] <Guest76480> sudo pm-hibernate
[23:07] <extravagantdrake> I have 1GB DDR1 RAM and I don't have to use swap space
[23:07] <wheatthin> do you use your machine? lol extravagantdrake
[23:08] <extravagantdrake> wheatthin: Most of the time, yes.
[23:08] <witheld> Is there a way to start a process with FIFO scheduling? Running chrt every time I need realtime isn't exactly ideal, and sometimes you just need CFS to go away
[23:08] <elroy> I have 1.5 gigs ram and 13.10 works fine
[23:08] <extravagantdrake> I can play Widelands. Lol
[23:08] <extravagantdrake> Oh, and progress quest
[23:09] <foist> I don't need a special partition for /home if I'm going to only have one user, do I?
[23:09] <witheld> elroy: the only problem with linux on low-memory systems is that driver quirks can mean swap performance completely fatal
[23:09] <witheld> As in if firefox pushes stuff into swap in the slightest, it's over, hold the power button or you'd gonna be waiting a few years
[23:09] <vonsyd0w> foist, having a separate /home helps when you upgrade (or change) the OS
[23:09] <elroy> withheld, and too many chrome tabs
[23:10] <foist> How much space is generally good for /home?
[23:10] <witheld> swap performance is completely fatal*
[23:10] <foist> I have 200 gigs to work with. I want to have some for /shared
[23:10] <qin> foist: you dont and do, in case of reinstall, back up, fails it is very handy, plus it easier to keep it safe
[23:10] <witheld> foist: if you don't have a file server, /home is probably where you keep all of your things
[23:10] <witheld> a better question is probably how big you want your root to be
[23:10] <extravagantdrake> Here is some advice: If you want to use ubuntu server, then install ubuntu desktop and then after installation, uninstall unity and xorg
[23:10] <Pencil> what are all these goutputstream  files?  Can I delete them?
[23:11] <foist> witheld: 20 gb.
[23:11] <qin> extravagantdrake: where did it come from? desktop install is an utter hog.
[23:11] <witheld> foist: then beyond that, I'd say 5GB for home if this is a desktop minimum, beyond that, depends how much stuff you want to have
[23:12] <witheld> extravagantdrake: this is the worst advice
[23:12] <witheld> why would you do that
[23:12] <foist> Okay, 30gb for /home. I guess I can change it after if I need?
[23:12] <extravagantdrake> The steam launcher with no games installed takes up 1GB in home
[23:12] <extravagantdrake> o.o
[23:13] <gmachine_24> so, using lvm, I can mount an internal estata drive and its partitions on a virtual machine?
[23:13] <witheld> foist: well uh, if you're using LVM and you have unnallocated free space, 100% yes
[23:13] <qin> extravagantdrake: `use the wine version of steam, falf the size ;)
[23:13] <witheld> If you aren't using LVM, make sure the free space is behind the /home partition
[23:13] <foist> fuck it I pulled the trigger.
[23:13] <gmachine_24> foist, language, please
[23:14] <foist> really?
[23:14] <gmachine_24> foist, yes.
[23:14] <extravagantdrake> gin: Ehehe, I can't run wine. My PC is too old, no graphics card, and only supports PCI Cards
[23:14] <extravagantdrake> But it has motherboard intel graphics
[23:14] <qin> extravagantdrake: how the hell you managed to fire up steam?
[23:15] <extravagantdrake> gin: Bit a trouble and work
[23:15] <vonsyd0w> gmachine_24, i think you can mount unformatted volumes, not formatted ones. I've got some some VMs installed on LVM volumes (block device) for testing and its pretty fast
[23:15] <vonsyd0w> I'll probably go with raw img files from now on. They're more portable
[23:15] <foist> Is there any functional difference between Ubuntu proper and one of the flavors, like Elementary OS?
[23:16] <extravagantdrake> I usually use steam on one of my three eeepcs if I wanted to use it now days
[23:16] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: yes, my impression is not formatted volumes......
[23:16] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: except perhaps as raw data
[23:16] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: but that made me very nervous
[23:17] <vonsyd0w> gotta live on the edge... w/ backups lol
[23:17] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: although I have a back up of everything I'm wondering about the virtual install at this point...........
[23:17] <extravagantdrake> Well it is time for me to burn ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-i386.iso
[23:17] <gmachine_24> it's like I have to recreate the recreation of the wheel
[23:18] <extravagantdrake> I'll be getting a few old computer components soon
[23:18] <gmachine_24> and I only have one back up of video files.... but multiple back ups of audio files....... as in 4x audio only 1x back up of video files.... I suppose I need to backup the video again..... and again
[23:19] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: what would rag img files look like..... iso?
[23:19] <gmachine_24> raw*
[23:19] <vonsyd0w> not sure what you mean?
[23:20] <bill_> still cant get into win7 and I cant restore  os or boot
[23:20] <gmachine_24> I'm sorry, you said raw data...... not raw image
[23:20] <vonsyd0w> no i meant raw img files; like install qcow2 img files (which support snapshotting and all that good stuff)
[23:20] <gmachine_24> bill_ I'm sorry I got lost as to your problem - if you can't boot the machine have you tried the restore boot discs?
[23:21] <bill_> i tried to slow boot not work'
[23:21] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: yeah, I am a noob to virtualization.....
[23:21] <bill_> thanks I am so lost myself
[23:21] <vonsyd0w> me too dude, but I really like
[23:21] <gmachine_24> bill_, have you tried a boot repair disc?
[23:21] <bill_> yes
[23:21] <vonsyd0w> I do a lot of VMware stuff at work
[23:21] <chriys> what's the command to point the folder public_html to var/www
[23:21] <gmachine_24> no luck........
[23:21] <gmachine_24> eh?
[23:22] <bill_> I cant get anything to work what about grub values
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Pencil: .goutputstream, release 12.04 is a known bug, and safe to remove them.
[23:22] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: so, essentially, VMware is software virtualization while kvm runs off the kernel???
[23:22] <vonsyd0w> gmachine_24, no VMware is a type 1 hypervisor; just like KVM
[23:22] <bill_> I have a disc supergrub
[23:23] <gmachine_24> bill_ so booting from a specialized repaid cd cannot fix your install? you've tried this?
[23:23] <Pencil> Thank you.
[23:23] <bill_> no just the restore disc
[23:23] <gmachine_24> vonsyd0w: ha, lol, see.... that means nothing to me.....
[23:23] <ilhami> My Ubuntu VM is so slow... what is happening?
[23:24] <vonsyd0w> gmachine_24, oh... ok. check out wikipedia on that stuff. very informational when learning this stuff
[23:24] <Bashing-om> !.goutputstream
[23:24] <vonsyd0w> ilhami, how many vCPUs did you assign to this Ubuntu VM
[23:24] <ilhami> 1
[23:24] <gmachine_24> bill_, try http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/
[23:24] <gmachine_24> works for me very time
[23:24] <bill_> ok
[23:24] <ilhami> It is 1 by default vonsyd0w I think.
[23:24] <chriys> i cannot access /var/www from my ftp on my vps. What's the command to point public_html to /var/www
[23:25] <bill_> thankyou!
[23:25] <gmachine_24> bill_, try it out and let us know if it works
[23:25] <vonsyd0w> ilhami, whats slow about it? what are you doing?
[23:25] <gmachine_24> KVM seems to be pretty fast
[23:25] <ilhami> 2 sec.. Right now I am reinstalling vonsyd0w
[23:25] <bekks> chriys: there is no command to do so. mod_user is an apache module enabling ~/public_html/ per user.
[23:26] <ilhami> vonsyd0w from scratch :)
[23:26] <ilhami> after I reinstall I should get the virtualbox addition x11 package?
[23:27] <chriys> bekks I don't want to access my web server by doing http://hostname/~username
[23:27] <vonsyd0w> ilhami, i've never used that with virtualbox. I use the "Install Guest Additions CD image" option from the Devices menu
[23:27] <ilhami> I tried that just a moment ago vonsyd0w.. and my mouse pointer disappeared haha
[23:28] <vonsyd0w> weird
[23:28] <ilhami> yep. :)
[23:28] <gmachine_24> llhami, left cntrl, then left alt ?? :-)
[23:28] <ilhami> gmachine_24 I had to reinstall Ubuntu. 2 sec.
[23:28] <ilhami> its not done yet.
[23:28] <gmachine_24> or right..... stand up sit down fight fight fight
[23:29] <vonsyd0w> chriys, have you thought about using SSH instead of FTP? its more secure and would be easier to use
[23:29] <chriys> I don't remember but I think there's a way to redirects what inside public_html to /var/www
[23:29] <gmachine_24> ilhami, ahh. ok
[23:29] <ilhami> seriously Ubuntu comes with a lot of crapware nowadays :(
[23:29] <gmachine_24> ilhami you're creating a vm?
[23:29] <ilhami> yes
[23:30] <gmachine_24> k......... now i'm up to speed...... kind of... what version ubuntu are you using?
[23:30] <ilhami> sorry if I hurt your feelings :)
[23:30] <ilhami> 13.10
[23:30] <gmachine_24> ilhami, yeah, I'm using the server 64bit version of that
[23:30] <ilhami> Ubuntu is nice but some of the stuff that comes with it is useless. :)
[23:30] <chriys> vonsyd0w why not but the think is I user dreamweaver I would DW to access the /var/www if you know a way I'll very happy
[23:31] <gmachine_24> the install is fairly minimal
[23:31] <vonsyd0w> chriys, I haven't setup vsftpd in a while. I'll try and help (then I'm taking a break!)
[23:32] <chriys> Alright really happy for your help
[23:32] <ilhami> gmachine_24 starting it now!!
[23:32] <Guest30661> how to bring hibernate back in 14.04
[23:33] <vonsyd0w> chriys, post your conf file again. Here is how: cat /etc/vsftpd.conf | pastebinit
[23:33] <vonsyd0w> see if that works
[23:33] <vonsyd0w> it'll return a web url you should share w/ us
[23:33] <gmachine_24> yeah, actually, my virtual ubuntu server is pretty slow as well
[23:34] <ilhami> gmachine_24 it's fairly fast now.
[23:34] <ilhami> but I have not installed the virtualbox package yet...
[23:34] <ilhami> so right now I dont have full screen
[23:36] <vonsyd0w> chriys, btw /var/www is owned by root for security reasons. If you want to have r/w access you'd have to change the group membership for /var/www and add yourself to that group. But thats still a lil insecure
[23:36] <chriys> vonsyd0w here the vsftd conf http://pastebin.com/8AJPLbAR
[23:36] <ilhami> gmachine_24 :D stay here dude
[23:37] <gmachine_24> I am just running via cli right now
[23:39] <ilhami> :S:S:S:S
[23:39] <ilhami> now it says my password is wrong when I try to authenticate hahahaha
[23:40] <vonsyd0w> chriys, one moment please. im doing some testing for ya
[23:40] <vonsyd0w> touching up on my vsftpd skillz ;)
[23:40] <chriys> thx
[23:41] <ilhami> gmachine_24 :D dont leave dude
[23:42] <gmachine_24> i'm here........ i'm just not sure why
[23:42] <ilhami> because you have to assist me here :D
[23:43] <daftykins> chriys: earlier when you came in i was going to ask if it was only you who needed access to this VPS, as if so SCP would be sufficient surely
[23:45] <vonsyd0w> daftykins, he's trying to use dreamweaver which only supports FTP... i think
[23:45] <vonsyd0w> oh and SFTP!
[23:46] <daftykins> vonsyd0w: bingo! :)
[23:46] <ilhami> SFTP works with SSH :D
[23:46] <ilhami> I use it
[23:46] <ilhami> with Filezilla
[23:46] <daftykins> didn't people stop making websites with dreamweaver in 2001?
[23:47] <daftykins> ;)
[23:47] <ilhami> yeah
[23:47] <ilhami> it sucks :D
[23:47] <vonsyd0w> daftykins & ilhami - he still has the issue of being able to edit /var/www files
[23:47] <ilhami> and is expensive.
[23:47] <vonsyd0w> i provided a workaround, dont know if he read it or saw it
[23:47] <daftykins> vonsyd0w: not something some sane permissions can't fix
[23:47] <vonsyd0w> sane is the keywoard. this box is a VPS, so its on the 'net
[23:48] <FlacBean02> Im trying to resolve a bug report I posted and I need to flash my bios but I dont know a good way to do this. Any ideas?
[23:48] <vonsyd0w> I get all security minded when I see that
[23:51] <chipotle> when i try to install this package, it asks me to accept a software license agreement, but i can't click through it/press enter does nothing - suggestions? i'm using 13.10 sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:51] <rww> chipotle: tab to switch to the buttons, then enter, perhaps?
[23:51] <chipotle> rww: i tried that :/
[23:57] <ilhami> Enabling 3d Acceleration crashes Unity.. what should I do?